e1465e No.16734433
I recently got back into Pokémon, and had to pull out a DSi I still had lying around to transfer pokémon from gen IV to gen V.
I was immediately reminded of how much better the design of the DSi was compared to my 3DS XL: very lightweight, one slick colour, no cheap plastic parts that make squeezing sounds when you press a button, etc. The 3DS XL on the other hand, is made of separate cheap plastic parts that can easily be ripped off with just a little bit of pressure, and makes my fingers go numb after holding it for too long.
I can't imagine things being much better with newer 3DS models or the Switch. Am I wrong?
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8ad51f No.16734509
What are you on about? Your fingers go numb? You might want to have a doctor look at that instead of blaming a handheld.
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e1465e No.16734522
>>16734509
Yes, if I hold my 3DS XL for several hours straight, I start feeling a tingling/numb sensation in my fingers.
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af5173 No.16734541
>>16734433
Do you mean from a comfort level or a practical level. In my opinion I think the Nintendo Switch's concept is down right genius. You have two controllers on both sides that you can then give to a friend and then put away. The problem is that it's extremely uncomfortable to hold.
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e1465e No.16734556
>>16734541
On a comfort level, mainly. I was just taken aback by how little the DSi weighted, since I hadn't used it in so long.
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af5173 No.16734569
>>16734556
Well in that case, I'd argue that it doesn't really exist. At least with what I've played anyway.
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0fc3b5 No.16734572
>>16734556
If a handheld weighs nothing that usually means it's a cheap piece of shit.
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69bbcc No.16735194
>>16734522
>Yes, if I hold my 3DS XL for several hours straight
>for several hours straight
Take a break from the game for fuck's sake. Save files were invented for this very reason.
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f786d2 No.16735201
>>16734522
>Yes, if I hold my 3DS XL for several hours straight, I start feeling a tingling/numb sensation in my fingers.
Get XL hands. Duh. I'm 6'5" tall and it fits breddy gud. I only miss my DS Lite sometimes because I want to access some old saves, but with TWL I can at least still play my GBA games just fine.
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971c88 No.16735219
Why dont they give handhelds controller style grips?
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d44114 No.16735239
>>16734522
I use this, and it's quite comfortable, but the price more than doubled in the past 2 years and it makes the 3DS XL totally unable to fit in any kind of normal pocket.
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2fa9ba No.16735259
>>16734433
>>16734522
Your hands going numb is a sign that you're losing circulation from staying in an awkward position too long. You can cure it by sitting straighter, holding the device further away and not being fat.
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943076 No.16735324
>>16734433
You do understand these things are for 7-13 year old children right?
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e1465e No.16735440
>>16735324
The majority of people owning them are older than that.
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bb965a No.16735831
>>16735324
haha I have the hands of a 13 year old so whatever
My ranking is probably
>PS Vita
>DS Lite
>PSP
>3DS
>GBA
>Switch (too fucking big)
Main issue with the DS Lite and 3DS is that they're fucking frail - unlike Vita and PSP especially. For just how it feels to hold and play, all of them except the Switch are pretty fine. I haven't held a new 2DS but the buttons look like shit (small and weak).
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24d891 No.16735849
>>16735831
I really wish that Nintendo stuck to the wide form factor instead of going for 2 screens. They've usually been more confortable for me to hold.
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bb965a No.16735857
>>16735849
How do you like the Vita? For me 2 screens is more comfortable but the Vita's sturdiness / better buttons just wins out.
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a96435 No.16739974
>>16735849
I actually like the 2 screens. Handhelds have limited space in order to be portable, so it's a nice way to add more screen space. Not all games benefit from it, but some games (most notably RPGs) benefit from being able to access a map or inventory while still being able to view the main action or story.
The buttons aren't great for the *DS systems, but I've had no major issues. I loved the microswitch buttons on the GBA SP, but I guess not everyone liked them.
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543a7c No.16739980
the new 3ds is better than all of the ds models
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90b103 No.16740017
>>16735259
I'm a complete skeleton and my fingers too go numb after holding a controller or my Switch for too long. My hands are just too big.
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cace7b No.16740056
I have fairly average size American hands (5'8") and my issue is that Nintendo has been taking a dump on D-pad positioning since the 3DS. It is impossible for me to play a hardcore 2D game like Metal Slug 7 or Space Invaders Extreme for long periods of time without my hand cramping up because you can't grip the damn system properly when you want to make strenuous use of the D-pad.
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8f9b89 No.16740090
>>16740056
You're right in that the d-pad position is awful, but it's been a problem since the Lite. At least the 3DS d-pad has proper feedback and actually fucking working diagonals, unlike the piece of shit on the Lite.
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594bfe No.16740093
>>16735831
>Vita
<not frail
Maybe it was because it was the price but I always treated it like it was a cancer patient, being fucking careful as hell with it. Always worried that if I held it wrong or bent it a bit, the fucking thing would crack. Never had that with the 3DS. Switch's screen worries me about drops but not bending since it's damn large.
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0fc3b5 No.16740102
>>16740056
>Nintendo has been taking a dump on D-pad positioning since the 3DS
They've been doing that shit since the Gamecube.
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594bfe No.16740108
>>16740102
>criticizing the Gamecube in any way, shape or form
MAAARRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
why the fuck does anyone like that piece of shit controller, again?
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2d70da No.16740114
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cace7b No.16740115
>>16740102
Eh, I've single-credit cleared several scrolling shooters on that dinky pad. It's small and a little stiff but it's not in a hand-crampingly awkward position. You can get a good grip and go to town with the GCN controller.
Now if you wanna talk about the inferior face button positioning or shoulder buttons that liked to crap out their highest-strength input those are much bigger issues for playing tight digital action games.
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a6186a No.16740120
>>16740108
Pretty sure it's just because it's better than the shit that the other systems had. The GameCube controller sucks, but less than the DS2 and both official XBox controllers.
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0fc3b5 No.16740121
>>16740120
The DS is great though. That's where the d-pad is supposed to be for maximum comfy.
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cace7b No.16740126
>>16740121
And it feels incredibly precise to use. I wish non-handheld manufacturers would start implementing microswitch D-pads.
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0fc3b5 No.16740131
>>16740126
I mean dualshock. I don't even remember how the NDS d-pad felt.
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cace7b No.16740137
>>16740131
Oh right, Sony D-pads suck.
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5c3cb4 No.16740145
>>16740120
I will literally never comprehend the retards who whine about the DS layout, I think I never had any problems with any controller, actually.
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0fc3b5 No.16740147
>>16740145
>I think I never had any problems with any controller, actually.
Then you never tried to use a 360 pad on a platformer.
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cace7b No.16740150
>>16740145
Have you tried to use the Wii remote sideways?
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594bfe No.16740153
>>16740145
Dualshock's too small and the D-Pad is shit, simple as that.
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e2ef13 No.16740155
>>16740145
The DS layout is perfect for people with non-nigger hands. The Duke's controller was terrible no matter how you look at it.
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594bfe No.16740160
>>16740155
How do you classify my hands if I find the joycons to be perfectly decent sized (with the little slide-on wrist strap things,at least) but find the Dualshock too small?
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5c3cb4 No.16740164
>>16740147
It's garbage, yeah. But I still had no problems.
>>16740150
Not practical, but I still had no problems.
>>16740153
Nah.
>>16740155
I guess. But I liked the style.
I don't know, maybe I'm simply not a whiny bitch and I adapt with style.
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e2ef13 No.16740169
>>16740160
Average sized. Weird that you find the joycons to be perfect, though, as many people with even smaller hands find it troublesome. Maybe your bone structure is different.
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594bfe No.16740174
>>16740169
The joycons aren't quite perfect, could be perhaps half an inch longer but it's not enough to bother me too much. I didn't use to mind the Dualshock when I was younger, but since holding controllers with longer handles, it's gotten quite uncomfortable.
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4b6dac No.16740179
>>16740145
I like the layout of the DualShock fine, I just wish it were bigger and had a better d-pad. The DS4 fixed that first problem, at least.
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5c3cb4 No.16740183
>>16740164
Though, I've gotta admit that just looking at the N64 pad makes me think immediately of urethra/foreskin insertion, and that makes me quite uncomfortable.
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299cce No.16740190
>>16734572
>lightweight = cheap
this is a boomer meme. how old r u grandpa?
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5c3cb4 No.16740195
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e2ef13 No.16740196
>>16740190
It's a psychological thing. The heavier something is, the more desirable it seems to be. That's a big salesman tactic, right there.
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5b8d42 No.16740214
>>16740195
I never noticed the gun, fucking topkek
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90b103 No.16740216
>>16740195
Fucking /k/ faggots.
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d6beba No.16740235
>>16734433
None of the (3)DS consoles are actually ergonomic, and they're painful to hold for along periods, but the OG phat has the best dpad and buttons of any of them.
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0fc3b5 No.16740249
>>16740190
Lightweight means it has less guts and is made of cheap plastic. You don't think the newer DS models are cheaper than the original? New models of any console are just cut cost versions.
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39674e No.16740256
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ab8470 No.16740370
As technology progresses compromises are made to make way for the newer tech.
If you want something durable as shit and with good form factor, you ought to look into home assembled tech.
I got a tinkerboy at home that works really nice.
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39674e No.16740395
>>16740370
>muh custom consoles
Just use the original hardware, faggot. Mod in a backlight if you're so young that playing next to a lamp triggers you.
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179c9d No.16740398
>>16740114
what is the solution to manletism other than the rope
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d520d0 No.16740422
>>16740145
>>16740160
Check out these manlets with baby hands.
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2d70da No.16740558
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ab8470 No.16740588
>>16740395
Look buddy, It's up to you.
I'm just saying if modern handhelds aren't your thing, make a fucking brick with nothing special in it.
We live in a wonderful age where it's an option.
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46a5b0 No.16741400
>>16740056
>I have fairly average size American hands (5'8")
Those are some gigantic hands.
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321fe3 No.16741564
>>16740190
>>16740196
Light=plastic, heavy=metal. Heavier things are immediately perceived to be sturdier, which translates as much to the technical side as it does physical durability. Obviously there's an upper limit, nobody wants a handheld that weighs 20lbs, but when the total weight is somewhere between 0 and 3lbs lighter doesn't provide any direct advantage.
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18fca6 No.16741582
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20b54c No.16741651
>>16735219
You can't fit that in your pocket.
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486459 No.16741664
>>16741582
Think that is the first time I have ever seen that done in real life.
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914353 No.16741719
>>16740114
>Imagine spending every weekend of your later 20s, 30s and maybe 40s going to clubs looking like a deer in headlights constantly open-mouth photobombing and force-mingling with every generic club roastie you see in the vain hope that one of them notices your 5'3" ass.
Why do men do this to themselves?
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df2a53 No.16741724
>>16740114
wow
reminds me of primary school bullying
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57bf5e No.16741763
>>16735201
You're full of shit or you have small hands, I have unusually large hands for my height and I can't stand using my 3DS XL without using one of those snap on things that add controller wings to the sides. Otherwise it feels like I'm trying to claw my fingers around a thin slab because that's exactly what I'm doing.
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57bf5e No.16741768
>>16741724
Yep, that's women for you. The best part is that I doubt that guy ever gave a shit. I mean, he's clearly suffered worse before if he's trying to pick up a woman that attractive instead of just staying home. It's even remotely possible that he slept with one of the women chatting in that group and they don't want to admit it to each other.
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f17b92 No.16754498
>>16741768
t. 5 foot 7 (and a half!)
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3544cf No.16754535
>>16740108
Amazing ergonomics. It's the most comfortable controller I've ever held. And the button layout was very nice and intuitive for most games (except traditional 2d fighters)
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a7c878 No.16754567
>>16741768
She's not even attractive, probably a 5.5/6 without makeup.
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621b80 No.16754579
>>16740398
http://archive.is/0bqXh
For a few hundreds of thousands of dollars, and months of painful therapy, you too can grow six inches.
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9d0c9d No.16754875
>>16740398
>>16754579
>not just becoming an astronaut at that point
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ca6c8e No.16754881
>>16740196
>The heavier something is, the more desirable it seems to be.
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31d10e No.16754894
>handheld with two screens
>well designed
The DS line was never good. Any good games on it were despite its retarded design.
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5f2a30 No.16754907
>>16754894
It was the ultimate form of DRM since emulating any DS game on a PC is a pain in the ass
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2ba0e8 No.16755039
>>16754907
They work pretty great on PC as you can have macros to assign touch commands to button presses.
The only problems are games which have some pressure sensitive feature(only homebrew and a handful early DS titles) or shit that uses multi touch like BiS's minigames.
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2ba0e8 No.16755045
>>16740196
Its why chinks started taping stones in their shitty PSUs
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fc5568 No.16755338
Personal ranking for handhelds, from top to bottom
>DS Phat (nice weight, good button placement and feedback)
>GBA classic (L and R feel a bit weird at first hand, but you quickly get used to it, and its perfect handing helps a lot)
>DSi XL (bigger, but sturdy as hell)
>PSP (a bit big, and the mini stick might hurt in the long term, but it's easily moddable)
>GB Micro (surprisingly comfy despite its little size)
>GBA SP (the edges are round, yet they can hurt bigger hands after a while)
>DS Lite (light, weak, feels like it breaks if badly handled, weak button resistance)
>3DS (felt as weak as DS Lite despite having a sturdier shell)
>3DS XL (hahahahahahahano)
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f6de3a No.16755681
>DS lite
>well designed
YIKES
>shitty buttons
>shitty screen
>shitty audio
>0 ergonomics
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f6de3a No.16755695
>>16754907
this
same with the wii, unless you bought the controller
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a8326b No.16755945
>>16740120
The Duke was and is still the best controller, the only people who disagree have tiny hands.
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0bbb86 No.16756000
>>16755338
>Personal ranking for handhelds, from top to bottom
<DS Phat
<GBA classic
Enjoy your shitty screens, faglord
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32de43 No.16756205
>>16754881
With breasts it's the opposite. The smaller they are the better.
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bf81a5 No.16756227
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>>16734433
>>16756000
Incredible, I must say. Never seen such trips/dubs gather in one place.
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927a34 No.16756228
>>16755945
It's nice and is more comfortable than the S, but the back/start buttons and vertical orientation of the face buttons is inferior to a horizontal orientation.
>>16756205
that's a given
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7a96f9 No.16767139
Might as well ask here. Has anyone been having issues ordering flash carts from nds-card of late? Friend of mine's been trying to get a 3DS compatible one from there, but says every time they tell it to complete the order, it acts like they never had an order being compiled to begin with. If it's a matter of difference in time zone between where they live and Hong Kong, I could see that being an issue (if no one's there to approve sales outside physical business hours), and going off of item comments, it seems like there have been recent orders that have gone through, but I figure it doesn't hurt to double check.
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9b4200 No.16767381
Honestly the only really bad thing about the nintendo switch is the thumbsticks and the size
If it wasn't abundantly apparent that trying to service a switch lite would be fucking obnoxious I'd be all over that shit, shit's just slightly bigger than a vita and doesn't have the caveat of retarded storage
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f92feb No.16767747
>>16740093
Never felt like any of the handhelds, except maybe the original DS design, since my brother smashed it to bits, were that frail. But it also helped that I always have a case that makes them bulkier then they actually are
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7a96f9 No.16768262
>>16767139
Actually, never mind. They were trying some entirely different site than nds-card (which I had previously recommended, and have since once again recommended). Site won't let me delete the post, so now I just feel retarded.
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cb700c No.16769458
The Switch is absolutely horrible to hold. I have no idea how anybody uses that shit.
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4687e3 No.16770555
>>16734522
>Yes, if I hold my 3DS XL for several hours straight,
Take a fuckin break from your vidya and do something else! Go on a walk or something
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b5a611 No.16782597
Well. I mean theres the switch and its comfortable enough.
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bb51e3 No.16782638
>>16735831
My hands are pretty average, maybe on the smaller side and I think the Switch is the perfect size, just not the perfect weight. Intense matches where I need to play aggressively and quickly (Tetris 99 comes to mind) do wear on my hands due to the weight of the thing, but it's sized very well for my hands otherwise. The Vita I absolutely hated, thing was fucking tiny. 3DS XL was better but a bit too small, the corners would hurt my palms after playing a long while.
I've always found the hand size thing weird. I like the joycons, which should make me a baby-hand, and I also like the Duke, which should make me a fat-handed burger.
>>16754907
And yet all Nintendo consoles can be emulated successfully (albeit with some fuckery for Wii U, and questionable quality for Switch) while the completely generic 360, Xbone, PS3 and PS4 are unemulatable unless the game in question is called Persona 5.
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7e543a No.16782643
>everyone in the world wandering around with a decent level hand held emulation device
>shitass operating system eats nearly all the resources available
>OS LEVEL INPUT BUFFERING FOR EXTERNAL CONTROLLERS
Fucking android, it's so abhorrently shit, even something as simple as a controller that snaps to the phone is gimped because Google is fucking retarded.
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b6cb07 No.16784741
>>16782643
>everyone in the world wandering around with a shitty proprietary closed source undocumented non-UEFI/BIOS faggot device
First line. That's the real problem. If it had UEFI and other standards then suddenly you could be running linux, BSD and others on every phone.
Now every phone needs an individual port. Do you even know how many different ones there are?
You're like: I have a Nexus 7 2013
That one alone has like 3 variants all needing individual roms.
And all of them have some components not working right which is why most people stay on what's shipped with the phone.
Not to mention that you lose warranty which you don't on a PC. It's like you're just renting it.
Phones are shit
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