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Just downloaded it now, I'm gonna upload the whole thing to MEGA and share it here in a bit.

>>16716160

Not you'll probably need the MEGA desktop app to download this as it's a whooping 8GB.

Wait didn't this game already have a dlc? Also what does it add?

Might get around playing it for real, I've always dropped it after a few hours in.

>>16716173

Large subterranean lake/sea comprising an additional ~250 maps. 3 new weapon types, a new psi school, a ton of new feats, level cap increased from 25 to 30, and some new levelling features (specializations and veteran feats). There are also jet-skis in the DLC used for traversing water maps.

How many years was this thing delayed?

>>16716259

I think it was supposed to release in 2017, originally, so 2 years

For anyone new to the game, "Z" toggles feature highlighting, which will highlight containers and other things you can interact with, press it frequently to ensure you don't miss hard to spot containers. Additionally you can now increase game speed while out of combat, by default this is bound to "+" and "-", though "+" seems janky so "[" and "]" may be better. This is a godsend for moving/doing supply/bank runs.

I quit my last playthrough halfway through, because I thought the expansion was coming out soon. That was over two years back now. I already paypiggied for the main game itself, so I'll just wait until I feel like playing the game again and buy the expansion.

Never completed underrail, got to a trainyard and everything one hit killed me despite having decent armor. It was fun up until that point.

>>16718122

Yeah, Depot B is a build check. I was very successful with my first build as Stealth/Trap kind. You could disable and kill enemies before they even noticed you.

>Undertale

>>16718209

>4 years old shitty cuckchan meme

>>16718168

I have a feeling that lot of people who had problems with the game's difficulty found the movement speed too tedious for thorough exploration, which is rather required for early level ups with the Oddity system. My "build" was hap-hazardous mix of things I found interesting, but I didn't have that much trouble.

>>16714873

Is Underrail any good? I still haven't played it. I feel like Age of Decadence spoiled me when it comes to "indie RPGs".

Why is AoD so fucking good?

Anyone know if Dungeon Rats is any good?

>>16718299

>Is Underrail any good?

it's pretty good but there are definitely negative elements

I also think the game starts to drag a bit by the time you're messing around in Core City

>movement speed

>build check is too far in to prevent frustration

>fuckloads of filler/time wasting content like merchants or trying to make end game material

>crafting

>>16718318

You forgot

>Deep Cavern

>>16718381

>A more developed version of Kenshi?

What on earth would even make you think that?

>Can't do quick search-engine search to at least know what genre the game is in

How do people like you even exist?

>>16717122

Nice. I remember I had to use cheat engine to do that originally. I also used cheat engine to force shops to refresh by accelerating the game like 200x, since they refresh for every hour passed.

I recall back in the day some anons would post their armored police builds. Does anyone have them saved?

>>16718299

It's got its share of problems and quirks, but overall it's a very solid game. As many anons mention, the game can be very unforgiving at times, so you have to commit to your character build at all times. Fortunately, the combat system is very intricate and balanced so that there is a lot of variety among viable builds.

Story and characters are just kinda there. They're not particularly bad, but they're not memorable either. Same can be said about the visual design - it's pretty consistent and easy to read, but not that interesting or original aesthetically.

Overall I definitely recommend it if you're into challenge and willing to put up with major difficulty spikes. You might want to check some build guides before playing to avoid common pitfalls - a bad character build at the start of the game can come back to bite you in the ass several hours later forcing you to restart from the beginning.

>>16718395

The question you asked could be answered by simply looking the game up in a search engine of your choice. Nobody wants to spoonfeed (you).

Fuck, I just got the game and haven't even passed 1/3 of it.

>>16718458

> a bad character build at the start of the game can come back to bite you in the ass several hours later forcing you to restart from the beginning.

Yep, I got about 15 hours into a multiclass type character (stealth and some psi) and had to restart the game due to being unable to pass a wall of skill checks. Totally killed my interest in the game.

>>16718458

Dunno about armored police builds, but the Riot Armor got buffed so they'll have improved, its threshold bonus has a flat +2 buff over and above what's received from crafting materials, and the multiplier is increased from 75% to 100%. There are also some feats now which buff shields, though considering the scarcity of feats I'm not sure how viable they are.

>>16718299

I love the combat system, but beyond that I can't really explain why I enjoy the game despite disliking most other CRPGs. As for negatives:

- Travel is somewhat tedious due to there only being a handful of quick-travel points, though the new speed modifier helps.

- They heavy focus on min-maxing means you can't really have much variety in your build. For example it's not really possible to make a character who uses some kind of weapon and a single psi-school well, because to deal competitive damage at higher levels with psi requires maxing out Will, which would cripple your Perception (and hence damage and accuracy with guns). Slight exception to this is the new Temporal Manipulation school, it only has one damage spell that scales with Will, for the others you just need enough points in the associated skill to learn them, no need to pump Psi, making it viable as an add-on to a build.

- To continue the above, builds generally consist of a bunch of secondary stats you only increase to hit breakpoints that give you useful feats, then one primary stat you max out entirely which will be associated with your weapon type. Dexterity based builds get some more freedom than others, as they can easily also make use of throwing weapons and traps (though with just 30 throwing you get a nice grenade feat so anyone can use it sorta well). Beyond that you generally need to patch up weaknesses in your build with consumables and other gear you find, buy or make in the game. Even dexterity based builds may struggle to fit beneficial feats for secondary skills into their build though.

- There are many situations in which you just have to get your kill on and murder some poor chump when you should logically be able to resolve it peacefully by negotiation, but the dialogue options don't cover it. This is made worse because the persuasion and intimidation skills both scale off Will exclusively for some reason, so you'll struggle to level them to use what options there are unless you're a psion.

- Doesn't bother me too much but the shop system is kinda unique, vendors only buy fixed quantities of things per shop reset (which occurs every few hours) and have limited funds, this is semi-random but if you visit a few times you'll have a good idea what kind of things they generally buy. This requires some planning to maximize income, because you can't just dump everything you don't want on people for cash. You'll generally repair then sell valuable stuff, but might just need to recycle less valuable stuff into repair kits because sell slots are scarce. The mercantile skill reduces buy prices and a feat associated with it increases the amount of things vendors buy and their available cash, but I've found it somewhat tricky to fit this into a build.

>>16714873

Is it standalone or a continuation of the original?

>>16718617

yes

>>16718299

Underrail is great, almost on par with AoD, imo. Dungeon Rats is literally just a dungeon crawl with AoD combat (with some small quality of life changes thrown in). There is VERY LITTLE story (almost none beyond a couple very short dialogues), it is strictly about combat. That being said, it's pretty fun and really hard, just don't expect it to be anything like AoD save for the mechanics.

>>16718617

It's an expansion reached within the base game. Midgame, I think. You simply fast travel there from a certain point, if you so choose. The expansion also adds a fuckload of other content for base game, like perks and skills, items, etc. etc.

>undertail

I'm sorry, I can't help but imagine a shitty Undertale porn game whenever I read that name. Kill me please.

>>16720465

You and I are both retards but for different reasons

>>16717122

Thanks anon been wanting to get into this for awhile now, any other tips for beginners I should know?

>>16720483

I wanted someone to post that image.

>>16720489

Kind of wish they'd upgrade the engine to better handle elevations, among other things, here's hoping the sequel is a big step up, I'm going to wait for a few patches before I play the new one, I got into the first one extremely early, I was either the first or one of the first to shill this game, glad it ended up as good as it did.

>>16720513

It's not quite Fallout/Arcanum, and I don't recall any segments where you can't progress if you invested in the wrong skills, there are multiple points where skill differences will unlock completely new sections. The game almost had it, it was almost Fallout X Metroid in terms of it's games design decisions, there are certainly a lot of points where you realize where you are after wandering for an hour, and it feels great.

How viable is playing the game with an unarmed build with Expose Weakness/Lightning Punches/Fancy Footwork/Combo/Pneumatic Hammer setup and ATATATATATAing everything with 4 AP melee attacks? Would it be good to invest in Psychokinesis just for Force Emission?

>>16720499

Try to plan a build before you start the game, it's worth checking the forums and the builder, because if you mess up horrifically you can basically softlock yourself several hours in.

>>16720549

My psi monk was an unstoppable beast, but I'm not sure about pure punching, I think it should theoretically be viable, but I'm a bif iffy on damage output, since psi monk is punching holes in people all day everyday.

How good is this game?

I had it on my radar for ages, but then I completely forgot about it.

I'm thinking of going a PSI/Speech/Gun build is that even possible or viable?

>>16720489

>jet skis

game of the fucking year right here

>>16714873

>Underrail

are there trains in this game? I want to play a game with trains and shit

>>16720767

>in all four disciplines

no

specialization is the way to go for psi and psi basically steam rolls the game until you hit DC

>>16716160

>This is a very minmax focused game, you cannot make a jack of all trafes, if you do you might reach mid-game then you will start to get your shit slapped something fierce as the difficulty hikes.

Listen to this man, I had to remake my psionic rogue character after Core City because of this. It is a very good game until that point, but Jesus Christ. I honestly feel like phonics aren't even viable after that point based on what I encountered.

>>16720883

>phonics

Hooked on psionics.

>>16720803

It's like Metro 2033 if it were a Fallout inspired CRPG. There is a train that you use for fast travel after the first chapter.

>>16720856

You can max out more than one skill per level, though. I maxed out Metathermics since level 1 and found tons of powers but my abilities fell off a goddamned cliff after Core City. I guess my core stats weren't set up well enough, I wasn't very durable.

I tried installing this game twice and every time I quit right after the tutorial area after I'm sent out into the wild. I don't want to seem like a casual but this type of game seems very overwhelming off the gate and I just can't stick with it long enough to start having fun, despite trying my best to expand my horizons and having quite a bit of fun with Fallout 2 once I got going with it.

>>16720970

Literally pick a direction and walk. The game is designed to not give you impossible encounters right off the bat and the rewards for exploration are great. You might get ambushed if you're not careful though

>>16720883

Psy focused chars are broken. As in, forcefield makes the game trivial. And even without it, a focused Psy char will roll anything thrown at him as long as you don't go retard.

>>16720986

I'm just not particularly used to this kind of RPG, usually what I'd play would be a JRPG which I'd drop in an instant or an ARPG which are usually focused on one gameplay style and didn't have so many options to choose from.

>>16720994

Forcefield is an extremely good ability, I agree, but my problem was that I was simply not able to output enough damage. Robotic enemies are also continually an issue.

>>16720997

I'm not going to lie anon, your posts kinda sound pathetic. It's a video game. You act like straying from some set path will cause a Japanese executive to walk into a room and present you with a wakizashi, urging you to kill yourself. It's a game, the developer wants you to play it. Just do something and be surprised. Come up with a character motivation and execute it. They kinda fucked up on the build balance though so try not to build a character that's too spread out

>>16721027

You're right, I should just grow some balls and dive right into it.

Speaking of post nuke actual RPGs, are any of the 3D fallout games worth playing? 4 looks too much like Skyrim and I really disliked Skyrim, the quests, combat and just about everything else was far too basic to enjoy.

>>16721216

4 goes beyond even Skyrim in terms of shittiness. I'd say it's more like a bad clone of Borderlands with more pointless inventory management. I will never understand Bethesda' s obsession with making the player carry worthless shit.

The only 3D Fallout worth playing is New Vegas because many of the original Fallout 2 team worked on it.

>>16720767

I've cleared most of the original map so far on DOMINATING with all psi disciplines, excluding temporal manipulation, because I started playing before the expansion. I'll probably get the temporal manipulation too when I get back to it, in case expansion is compatible with old saves.

>>16721027

>not able to output enough damage

Didn't have this problem.

>Robotic enemies are also continually an issue

Literally just close doors. I don't recall how exactly I've destroyed robots before, but it was absolutely risk free. It involves closing/opening doors, throwing EMP grenades through doorways, double lightning spell via feats, and sealing passages with forcefield (probably just to close doors safely when EMP stun runs out).

The scorpions are more dangerous.

>>16721621

>>16721027

You can also use tazers up close against robots to cause short-circuiting. What I've never been able to comfortably beat are Crawlers and Death Stalkers, even with an obscene amount of flares, NVG-Seeker Goggles, and chokepoints.

I could just be shit, to be honest, since I'm also just not very good at CRPGs but enjoy them a great deal.

>>16721793

>Crawlers and Death Stalkers

I don't remember anymore what exactly my best strat against them was, but forcefield is pretty much a requirement to have any chance against them for a psi user. It was something like: enter a cavern, throw a fireball into the center to wake them all up, get into a corner and wall myself off, set up telekinetic proxy and nuke the vicinity when the wall goes down with HE grenades, proxy and AoE spells, then wall myself off again and repeat. There's also self-immolation spell, I think enemies avoid stepping onto the fire tiles.

>>16721621

>Didn't have this problem

I wish I knew why then because it seems like shortly after you beat Core City, it's like entering Hell mode in Diablo 2 as a sorceress. Everyone has some level of resistance to your elemental attacks. They were devastating before that as you said. I always maxed Metathermics and sometimes had one other maxed as well, took all the good looking psionic feats I saw. As far as I could tell the only thing I did wrong was also try to be sneaky, because I didn't really have any way of knowing that psionics and stealth did not synergize at fucking all before I started short of spoiling the whole game for myself. But my psionic skills were all maxed.

>>16721793

Crawlers and their gay cousins are dickbags. I didn't get to the point of killing them reliably either.

>>16721928

>But my psionic skills were all maxed.

Sorry, I meant to say that the ones I chose I had maxed all the time.

>>16721928

>I always maxed Metathermics and sometimes had one other maxed as well

I bet that's the problem. I've had all psi skills maxed specifically to get the skill synergy bonus to boost me above the cap as much as possible. There's also the psi-beetle carapace you can craft armor with, and some kind of psi helmet, I think? So crafting skill is important too, up to a required point.

>>16721988

That sounds like the major flaw in my build then. I really like the crafting in this game but it does seem like you are locked into getting certain supporting skills for certain builds, for example biology to get the psi armor you mentioned. I also neglected to get the full skill synergy bonus.

For the record, I rerolled a dude that specializes in heavy firepower with some science and engineering for crafting his gear and he is way more effective, with more guns and ammo than I know what to do with.

>>16722050

Here's a starting build for a Psi character: http://underrail.info.tm/build/?AQMDAwoDCggAAAAAAAAADwAAAAAAAAAADw8PDw8PDytjCN-_

Intelligence is taken to 8 so we can use every crafting skill, note you don't need to max these out, refer to this guide for a rough idea of breakpoints: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=843557165

Will is obviously taken to 10 and we take Constitution to 10 because Thick Skull is a godsend for a Psi character, and we can't really afford agility to go for dodge. Conditioning is great so we're using that too, and I'd suggest grabbing fast metabolism at level 2 for that bonus to Psi gained from boosters and a nice healing bonus. These are basically all the Constitution feats we need, after this you're free to decide what feats you'd like on your own, though reference to guides would be wise. As we have no dodge you want to craft Riot Gear or a Tactical Vest with a Psi-Bug carapace to boost your psionics as soon as possible, so I'd suggest advancing hacking somewhat slowly (our boost from int means we should have enough effective skill to get everything anyway) and trying to have ~30 tailoring and mechanical skill, as well as ~10 biology by the time you're sent to GMS compound, at which point you should visit Junkyard and try to make one. Persuasion is nice and can save you some money but if you'd rather be able to increase crafting faster you can dump it. I'd suggest having some mercantile as it helps with heavy crafting a fair bit and will make up for not being able to pick locks.

It's hard to mess this build up, just increase Will at every opportunity and make wise Feat choices, it's somewhat basic defensively (high HP + constitution feats + tactical/riot gear), but with the additional options psi gives you this shouldn't be a problem.

>>16722149

Actually in regards to crafting a psion won't need chemistry, just mechanics, tailoring, biology and electronics.

>>16722149

Ah so this game does follow the Fallout pattern of "INT is the best stat" and "everything should either be min or maxed". I admit I expected it to be a little less extreme in that regard, although my new build seems to work okay. I don't typically enjoy min maxing though, I usually try to go for something that intuitively makes sense to me and try not to make poor choices. I figured I was safe with "sneaky psion" because mage/thief is a long and treasured archetypal build in tabletop and CRPGs, but apparently not in this one (or maybe I just didn't min max correctly) My lack of Constitution was definitely my greatest mistake judging by the build you just linked though.

>>16722305

I dislike this conversation because the "Forget it, doc" line implies that there is an ascetic monk somewhere in the game that will teach you how to use psionics without the health loss. If he exists, I haven't found him

>>16720549

Not just Force emission. Force Field is pretty much essential to a melee build because it prevents the enemy from just sniping you. You use it to block line of sight and make the enemy come to you, or to provide cover while you go to the enemy. Telekinetic Proxy also duplicates Force Emission.

Having a sledgehammer as a secondary weapon is pretty valuable too, helps for penetrating extremely high damage threshold.

>>16722423

You'll never punch out cthulhu in a single round with that attitude.

>>16722370

I think crafting takes off mid-late game. There comes a point though where weapons you craft (especially melee/unarmed) are around 3x better than the ones you buy or find, especially if you shop around for max quality materials.

>>16720738

It's very good.

>>16720765

Might be spreading yourself a little thin, but I bet it's doable especially if you use your psi powers well.

>>16722464

I think I ended up needing all the crafting skills in the end. Fortunately they didn't need to be maxed out.

>>16722628

Yeah, that one is kinda tough, I had to hack the turret and lure the retards into it.

>>16722341

I agree it is badly worded and gives the impression of an alternative.

There isn't one and the reference to "the old fashioned way" means brute force.

>>16722929

>Depot near Junkyard

The one full of muties? On DOMINATING that place is too brutal to be a build check, pure psionics builds didn't even take off yet by that point. One of the segments had way too many mutants in it, so I had to leave through one exit and enter through another to kite them around, just to get past that story checkpoint.

>>16722458

Crafting is amazing. Later on you can buy a couple of cheap guns, take them apart. put all the best parts together and sell it or use it. My tech marine has at least two custom assault rifles and a custom plasma pistol for those dank crits.

>>16722628

If you have a lot of trouble with the GMS Compound, try going to Lucas or the Junkyard merchants and getting a blueprint for riot armor or a tactical vest. Even if you're a stealth character, the 30% armor penalty if you're not stupid enough to use a shield is tolerable that it won't impact your operating enough to fuck you over. Get tazers, too, just because they're cheap and can stun most things if they get too close and you need to yabba dabba the fuck out.

I'll share my character once I reach GMS compound, decided to use the Psi build I posted earlier since I haven't really played Psi before. It's pretty neat so far, just got Pyrokinesis and that damage is fat.

>>16722458

Even early game, if you make yourself a tactical vest from somewhat high quality parts (say 60 or so, though the carrier vest doesn't matter). You become virtually immune to small arms fire excepting crits. If you make one before GMS compound the robots sometimes just cannot harm you at all. However crossbow users will still fuck you up if you're not meaty, they can easily one-turn a character with less than 100 HP, and that's before you even take electric bolts stunning you into account.

>>16723377

I haven't encountered a fight in the entire game that couldn't be won by putting down traps, hiding in vents, and generally acting like you're fighting Russians in the Winter War. Caltrops and bear traps don't require any major skill investments to use, and are useful more for the virtue of area control than they are straight damage. I can't speak for the poisonous ones, though, since I haven't made a build that would use them. Considering I rarely see enemies popping antidotes, though, I'd say it's a fair guess they'd be pretty fucking good. I never saved the hostages by intent, I just threw grenades in the room and camped the corner with an SMG on burst. It was only by good fortune that they lived when I did my first character as a metal armor/AR goon. With my sniper they all just ran into the caltrops and bled to death.

>>16723610

If you don't plan to use throwing knives you might as well stop leveling Throwing at 30, once you get the Grenadier perk you're set as far as grenades go. The second grenade perk is mainly for pure Throwing builds.

>>16723737

Unfortunately, I have to use them.

https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fatal_Throw

This skill with three points in it's specialization gives 27 extra action points per turn on kill. Usually, it wouldn't be worth it because of the 90% landing rate, but with Expert Throwing from level 26 it will pretty much always be 100% with all levelup points in Dexterity and all skill points into Throwing. For reference, with 18 dexterity it costs 10 AP to knife someone, so that's 17 extra AP per turn for free and every melee attack is 4 AP. I wish there would be enough space to get Three-Pointer and Grenadier, but there's just too much other stuff to get.

How important the social skills are?

>>16723844

How about learning basic grammar, anon?

>>16723847

He just minmaxed his combat skills.

>>16723847

Buenas tardes me no habla english si!

>>16723856

But анон, як ćemo kommunizieren exclusivement ingles хэрэв je to 多文化の πλάκα?

>>16723367

>I think just before handing you that pill, he tells you that "the old fashioned" way takes years to perfect, so there's no real doubt you have to do it.

I figured he might just be wrong and there's some Shaolin monk or something who's like "eat these herbs and meditate for 18 hours." It just didn't sit well with me that you're required to lose health to use psionics.

>>16723844

They're decent enough to be worth getting as a secondary skill in my opinion, most of the quests involving NPCs have some kind of social option

>>16723955

You do get a psionic power that boosts your unarmed damage from the bodybuilder. I don't know how good it is but it is specifically designed for your type of character. The 3 Constitution frightens me though.

>>16723968

If I stumble into any fight unprepared, I am dead in 1-2 turns.

>>16723844

Persuasion offers some nice little cash savings, and the opportunity to use diplomacy at some points rather than going murderhobo, I always take it on any build with Will as it's nice to have and with high Will doesn't take many skill points.

Intimidation is basically a shittier version of Persuasion, and most of the people you use it on are dicks you won't be bothered about murderhoboing anyway. Though it does notably have the Yell feat which lets you debuff nearby enemies: http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Yell despite this I don't bother using it.

Mercantile also offers a lot of nice dialogue options that let you obtain extra cash (in some cases A LOT of extra cash). Pay less for things, offer to pay someone to fuck off instead of having to fight them, or some combination thereof. It also reduces the the cost of buying things in shops gradually, with a decent investment this will make managing cash a lot easier over the course of a game. It also has some feats that give shopkeepers more available cash and allow them to buy more items from you per reset. However you probably need both of these feats for either to be worth taking, and with the scarcity of feats you'll likely never want to spend 2 feat slots on this.

In short persuasion is a no-brainer on high Will builds, Mercantile is a no-brainer on high Int builds, Intimidation kind of sucks but has a neat feat. The social skills would probably see wider use if they had alternative scalings like:

Persuasion: Scales on higher of Will or Intelligence

Intimidation: Scales on higher of Will or Strength.

Mercantile: Scales on high of Will or Intelligence.

Since they're stuck to one stat they're basically just a nice bonus on particular builds.

>>16716160

For anyone wanting to download the game, use rutracker's newest thread instead. The guy uploaded the 1.1.0.10 GOG version with DLC included.

>>16727170

Do you know what's different in the new version?

>>16727387

>Fixed the bug that cause the game to crash during ending slides in certain situations

Update chasing faggots will defend this.

The Game is nice.

I want to kill everyone in the communist cabal. But i have to keep my power level low and get more shit and exp befor i start to clean that shittery of camp. The Game as an underline tone of communism. Even when you go to a weapon shop, you do not only pay with money, you can trade with other goods. etc…

The Story

non existing. There is a lot to read but there is no plot or anything, no red line you could follow. You are the new guy, you made the test and now you do jobs for the communist leader. Learn about the world of underrail and their enemies. Thats it. As soon i get enough power i will start my own story, cleaning this communist cabal with the force of god.

The Gameplay

Old school west rpg, turn based. It has some bugs, save bugs and so on. It doesn't really feal smooth. sometimes you missclick and instead to attack you walk around the enemy. You are either overpowerd in one skill or you melee through the thinn caves while having a hard time seeing yourself behind a wall or the enemy. Turn on the outlines in battle mode to see at least something. This is a big contra, you can't see behind walls and often do they block the view.

the technic

indie level, some minor bugs, framerate good, enginee runs almost smooth. Sometimes you get an error: map couldn't load. And the game set you back to the last save. Save again and your save is gone. But all these little bugs are not gameplay breaking.

the sidenotes

developer was a faggot, and mostly a communist. He fucked up his code on purpose so you don't mod his game. yada yada and some other arguments later, game is still unmoddable. It is also way overpriced, around 50 euros for the full packet. While anon already deliverd a downlode here, (which you only can download when you get a mega account and pay 5 communist bugs a month) you might also consider to search up ovagames and get the gog version from there.

anyway, game is playable, it is nice and has good artwork. You also get the freedom to kill all communist so i guess this makes it less shitty.

>>16727503

>bartering is communism

???

>needing to pay to download from mega

???

Take your meds.

>>16727512

calm your tits, your game is nice.

yes, you can either set back your ip to download Mega stuff over 5gigs or you make an account and than you will see a paywall.

>>16727539

very well aware of it, still it is a shitty move from mega.

>>16728594

What level were you when you took on the "bums", the guys you mentioned are Ironheads, they're post-Junkyard enemies. You can basically think of that spot as being like going to graveyard at the start of Dark Souls except due to RPG scaling much more punishing. Early on however you can become virtually bulletproof barring snipers and crits if you make a good tactical vest and use a Kevlar Balaclava and Tabi. You can end up with ~50 mechanical threshold vs bullets which most guns can't even touch at that point in the game.

As far as Psi-Monk goes, any hybrid build is inherently harder to pull off than a focused build. The strongest builds generally have one stat that just gets maxed all the way to 16, then a few secondary stats around 5-7 for certain feats/weapon requirements/etc. There are a few exceptions to this such as SMG burst spam abuse builds but that's the general rule.

>>16728692

LVL 6, here's the shitbuild: >>16723955

I finally managed to kill them with the help of the grenadier missing his molotov and hitting the mine instead, put his partner down 60% hp.

I just leveled up after clearing caves of pigs, boars and rathounds, I always max out my dodge and evasion, but now I'm thinking of putting more points into crafting since people keep saying it pays off in the end and my private quarters are filled with materials I can't use.

>>16728594

>not worth the XP

Which XP system are you using? Because you should be using the one where you get XP for finding oddities, not for killing/lockpicking/disarming/whatever. It's way more fun, better paced, less tedious, and it's what the game was really designed around.

>>16727170

All I see is blyat speak, I dont get it. So the mega link is trash?

>>16728871

Mega link works fine, it's just that what that anon mentioned is the same thing with a couple more updates/bugfixes.

>>16728947

I got through all those parts as well, what about the rest of the game?

>russians

it's made by serbs

>>16728971

I genuinely don't even remember what the rest of the game was like beyond that, and that should tell you something.

>>16728877

But if a version that fixes bugs is out there, then i want it.

>>16718105

Is it really?

I knew the dev was one cool nigga when he kept adding more and more content for free and half the time wouldn't announce it so it would come as a complete surprise when you played.

>>16723477

I try to make a build without using caltrops but I can't do it, I always have 20 fucking caltrops in my inventory and the light step perk.

It is the most powerful combination imo, the poison ones are amazing because poison stacks so they take more and more damage the longer they walk on the caltrops, on top of reducing movement.

Light step also prevents acid damage which helps a lot in the junkyard. Which to be is more of a build check then depot b as you can cheese it by laying traps in the hallway on the second floor and funneling enemies.

>>16716160

I hit the mega cap and megadownloader wont download, just gives error and no progress is made.

Is the game causing anyone else's PC to bluescreen? I played it a while ago and this never gave me issues.

>>16729642

Found the russian one, wish me luck lads. No Idea what im getting into.

>>16731428

Yeah, how about putting up one point in strength when leveling up so you can use riot gear with a psionic carapace for some extra defense and psi stuff? Or does it have too high crafting requirements?

>>16731962

Tactical vest utilizes psi beetle carapace too. It has no strength requirement and twice the bullet damage threshold bonus, but no melee protection bonus. Much more useful generally. There are several equipable and consumable items that can be used to increase strength when you really need to put on riot gear, by the way. But if you're gonna drag it around, you might as well just carry bear traps instead.

>>16728871

You need to make an account, just translate the page with google translate, once you have an account the rest is easy, just use the search bar, all games are in english, and although it's a private tracker you don't need to seed unless you want to download more than their weekly limit.

The mega link is probably fine, but some anons (including myself) might have issues with mega's bandwidth limit.

Kind of surprising there doesn't seem to be a modding scene for this.

>>16732726

Game is built with the XNA framework, if you don't plan modding since the beginning then tough luck.

>>16732758

Odd he didn't plan on that, pretty sure I first saw of this game on either moddb or indiedb.

>>16732483

One doesn't need to register anymore. Magnet links are available to all.

>>16730626

I think I solved it. I just deleted the folder that housed the saves/configs which was created from the previous install.

>>16729642

Whats wrong with this site?

>https://igg-games.com/underrail-107113419-free-download.html

>>16733133

does it have the dlc? also sick trips dude

>>16733147

my man whats the deal with IGG I download shit from there often but im not big on the piracy scene

>This fucking snail pace's walkspeed

Am I retarded? Did I miss a fast walk option/button anywhere?

So far I really like the game. Any game that lets me run around with spears and sledgehammers is already on my good side.

>>16733322

press +

>>16733322

Heed >>16733345, In addition you can get boots that improve your walk speed (which will stack with the gamespeed increase). They're called Tabi, side with the Black Eels in Junkyard and you'll unlock a merchant who sells them and their Blueprint, they're basically mandatory for melee builds.

>>16733165

There was some stuff a while ago about some of their uploads having bitcoin miners or obnoxious changes to game files that superimposed their logo into the game in some places. I've never had any issues with it though, just avoid mentioning it if you don't want chewed out by trend-conscious anons.

Anyone else playing on Dominating difficulty? It's pretty tough and forces me to really tacticize every fight, as tanking hits is often not an option, and when it is, it's only because I prepared custom gear for the encounter. Just finished junkyard and so far everything's been relentless - literally every skillpoint I invest needs to be carefully considered, so that I have enough dodge (playing a PSI build), psi skills, and crafting to get through the fights.

>acid dogs

>mines that i can't detect

>cant hack it yet turrets

>anything more than two can kill me

Okay, what the fuck do I actually do?

>>16733451

You've either missed some quests you should've done first before where you are, or your build is shit. It's been hammered to death in the thread that the Old Depot and Core City are build-checks. If you're struggling hard with them but are bullheaded certain about your build, leave and go do some quests until you get a level or two and then go back in. Post your build so you can be judged, nigger.

>>16733451

>acid dogs

first of all, make sure you got the "sure step" feat that makes you immune to acid pools. It's a must have for fighting in the junkyard. Acid dogs then become a joke, especially if you manage to bottlenect them somewhere. I recommend making leather armour out of their skins, as it negates enough acid damage to make the acid stream attack of the muties irrelevant

>mines

either have the enemy step on them, or use any aoe to trigger them. Might require some trial and error if you don't know where they are

>turrets

go underground from the first old junkyard area, there is a computer terminal in the northeast. You need to get access level 3 (requires a lot of points in hacking) after which you can simply turn all the turrets in the entire junkyard off. If you do not have such a high hacking skill, you just need to avoid them (it's not too hard, there are paths to avoid 100% of turrets and still get to the end). You will miss a bit of loot, but not much, so don't worry about it.

>anything more than two can kill me

Hard to recommend you anything without knowing your build. Generally, though, you want to bottleneck enemies, stun them, slow them etc. PSI builds have a lot of versatility in that area, but even, say, crossbows have plenty of stun bolts, poisons, etc. Grenades also work as a pretty universal crowd control, and if even then you can't win, stock up on traps and lay them down prior to combat. If tanking some hits is unavoidable, get some good armour – muties spit acid, so you want something to protect from that, and everything attacks with melee, so get something for that as well. For example, tailoring mutant dog leather with high density foam padding is a really good option (just used it myself to clear out junkyard on dominating difficulty).

>>16733546

>54% chance to hit and I miss 5 out of 6 times. This is not how percentages work.

It is how probability works. You just had some bad luck

>>16733546

0.54⁵ = 4.6%

>>16733559

Oh, wait, I've used the wrong percentage. 0.46⁵ = 2%

>>16733589

That's partially one of the problems I think you can raise with CRPGs, is an over-reliance on random numbers rather than using it in the position where it's supposed to simulate something that has a fairly reasonable chance of not happening. There shouldn't be a chance to fuck-up rolling a barrel down a hill, but there should be a chance to miss a shot with a crossbow from 200 yards.

You could make the counter argument that the game, and other games like it, are all about mitigating risk and making it so you have to make as few RNG rolls as possible. Which is why traps in this game, and buffs/debuffs in more fantasy themed CRPGs are seen as the absolute go-to rather than straight damage.

>>16728814

6 int on a psi monk anon. Premed is way to good.

Anyone fucked around with spears yet? Had a look through the feats and the only one that seems fun is spear throw.

>>16733697

Ah, true, forgot the stat requirement on Premeditation.

The sweep attack on spears is decent too but like the other melee weapons I find them kind of boring. Psi, Throwing and Crossbow builds are the most fun IMO. Most others suffer from the fact it's pretty hard to hybrid outside of dexterity builds.

>>16733752

I mean yeah there are more fun builds. Especially with new psi line, hybrids look retarded. 20 free ap lmao.

Just seems like noones given spears a shake yet, even at places like the codex.

Think i'll get stuck into underrail again tonight and try them out. Don't want to get stuck with a shitter for the new content tho, so i'll run him to the depot and see how it does.

You played on dominating yet? Not a big a fan of just giving flat stat bonuses to enemies but i'll play it if it's recommended,

>>16729392

It is.

>>16723610

It turns out I fucked up some stats in this build, so I'm starting over. Here's a better psi monk, rate my build - https://pastebin.com/hT71r4b6

>>16733776

Nah I just play on Hard, the penalty to healing items is kinda shit since enemies still get the full benefit, but it's a decent challenge or at least it usually is but my pure Psi build is steamrolling it.

Ok after playing with spears for a bit my conclusion is it's a bit shit.

Someone smarting than me is going to have to figure what the point in stacking block is.

>>16733379

>he's too stupid to pirate it himself so he actually clicks the links in chan threads

poz my neghole you fucking faggot

Word of warning, Dude's new quest is pretty expansive, you're locked into it for a while once it starts and it has a puzzle you might get stuck on for a while (it's not a hard one though). If you continue after the concoction is assembled you're in for a huge series of hard as fuck fights unless you have stealth. I think (and hope) I'm near the end of them but it starts to get tedious after clearing the second area, this quest is rad though, was caught completely of guard by the scale of it.

>>16734990

With solid block you can kinda ignore Dodge which frees up skill points, the only melee enemies you'll need to watch out for are sledgehammers. Though considering ranged enemies are usually the most dangerous block just isn't that great.

Damn, poison caltrops are my new waifu. Stealhing and placing traps then herding enemies intro killzones is satisfying as fuck.

>camp hathor burrower quest

>clear first area

>"huh, ran outta antidote, better go buy some"

>come back

>they all respawned

>"fuck"

>kill them again, heroically murder my way to the end of the cave (after finding out that shield emitter blocks burrower spit, which made it considerably easier)

>find out I need some TNT to blow up the rocks at the end

>go back

>enemies in first location respawned while I was battling further ahead, gotta kill them to get back

>beeline it straight to store for TNT and back right after

>everything in cave, including burrower warriors, respawned while I was away

>sigh and massacre my way back to the end, to finally finish the fucking quest

This quest is fucking bullshit, especially when playing on Dominating, where burrowers are a serious threat.

Gas the Free Drones, Race war now!

>>16736797

Damn, the respawn rate must be increased on Dominating if that happened, I'm getting kinda annoyed by respawning creatures in some places but that seems to take a few hours. It's possible that spot always does that though since it's supposed to be a big infestation, I've never had to revisit it to complete the quest.

>shield emitters blocking their spines

Honestly, I'm starting to prefer Low/Medium frequency shields for this reason. Crossbow bolts, spines and Low speed projectiles in general are often poisoned/stun you/etc. With a tactical vest or something a shield only needs to take the edge off bullets and your armor can do the rest, snipers are going to oneshot you with 500 damage crits regardless so there's no point try to tank them. Energy weapons seem like the only compelling reason to use HF shields.

Lore question. Is the game set on Earth at all?

>>16737655

Sorry, it's only set in Earth

>>16714873

>>16716160

https://rutracker(dot)org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5758308

Here's the fuckin link, says it has expedition in the torrent, it's the GOG version based on the name, just replace the (dot) part of the link.

>>16737357

pretty sure the respawn isnt nearly as excessive anywhere else. Also mid shields rule

>finally get out of the hell that was depot A

>flood a bunch of crawlers by stealthly blowing shit up and sledgehammering, grenade throwing my way through

>beat the rat king by totally not savescumming and getting a lucky stun

>wearing the ratking's armor makes you hostile to the camp

>FREE STRENGHT

>fuck off and get a useless fucking feat and decide goto core city

>goto the arena

>DOMINATING!

Now this is peak fun.

>meet Dude in Rail's Crossing

>remember his quest from the first playthrough, do it as usual

<but wait, there's more!

>suddenly new content with him

>holy shit this is fun

>holy shit what the fuck

>what the actual fuck is going on

>thank the heavens I made a stealth-capable build

10/10, would cosplay as Serbian nazis while drunk as piss again

>up to the hunt for abyssal station zero

>already been to the coordinates its apparently at

>go back, big subsphere

>yep it doesn't work

>alright this sign says there's a quarry to the east, there must be a way round

>go north until I find an inlet

>leads to the hell that is fetid marsh

>slog through that godforsaken place, laying waste to 6 gorillion locusts

>slay dozens of snakes

>hit two dead ends that revealed I have to travel even further

>finally, with batteries and medicine running low, see a lemurian structure

>there's a unique shotgun

>go inside

>fucking nothing, some crawlers and strongmen

>near sobbing, decide to check the rest of the marsh

>there's some fart filled gave with some snakes

>turn them into handbags then hop to the end on stepping stones

>there's what looks like a cave entrance or something

>can't get to it there, travel for 4 maps to get to it

>deal with another fucking locust nest

>finally, this must be it

>peek into the cave

>it's just a shortcut to the fart cave

>there's nothing whatsoever in that entire place that makes it worth dealing with the amount of crap there is there

I'm absolutely seething.

>>16747042

>Have a no stealth build

>Get fucked when I get to this bit

I'll be back when I can punch all you cunts to death.

>>16747042

I got quite far without triggering hostilities with zero stealth, but then no amount of save-scummy timing was enough and I had to murder everyone. I wish there had been a peaceful way to deal with them. It would have made sense to be able to convince and/or mind rape them to leave me alone, while I looted the place, with high enough Thought Control and Persuasion.

Overall, the quest was a fun way to get some fast travel. The two rifts I found this far in obvious locations are extremely useful.

>>16714873

Thinking about picking this game up. Loved Fallout 1 and 2. Can you have companions in this game? Or is it all solo?

>>16750238

>Can you have companions in this game?

"The only companion you need is sparky, your pet assault rifle. Careful when you pet him, he gets excited pretty easily."

>>16732483

>You need to make an account

No you dont.

>>16733989

that pictures makes my peepee the big peepee

>>16750809

Honestly, Dominating is "get ready to cheese" difficulty, the most viable builds are Psychosis Psi builds which can just obliterate everything with crits, or trap/caltrop/acid pistol abuse builds.

>>16751270

I'm running a pure tranquility psi build, and it's definitely viable too. I had to cheese a lot at game start, but as I gather more and more psi abilities, I find myself versatile enough to deal with most shit without cheese. Enrage + locus of control is a game changer that can easily deal with groups of enemies, while single enemies can essentially be stunlocked forever if you play your cards right and if they don't have immunities (those are fairly rare so far, thankfully). A lot of people say that Dominating is unbalanced, but I don't think so - it's simply there if you enjoy a challenge. Reminds me of Gothic 2 + DLC difficulty.

>>16753470

>decide between supporting the Protectorate or Free Drones

This conflict is handled so shittily. Neither side seems to really have a set ideology, you don't learn their pros and cons until after you actually commit to one, and the gameworld seems to barely acknowledge the conflict exists at all. I joined protectorate for the sole reason that I found the bunch of misfits forming Free Drones to be annoying as hell.

>>16758752

Incendiaries + Stingball Grenades or Flashbangs are your best friend. If you have awful perception then Paranoid+Night Vision Goggles+Stuffed Bat can also help, I guess some people are unlucky but with just Paranoid and Stuffed bat I often spot their shadowy form while they're in sneak before they get the drop on me.

>>16758855

I just spam flares and electrokinetic imprint. The problem isn't detecting them (it's a major annoyance, sure, but manageable with enough flares), it's killing them fast enough. The bastards come in droves, and even just one getting close and personal means I'm fucked.

Are crossbows stealthy?

Where the fuck do I sell my loot?

>>16759276

at a merchant, obviously. They restock every 90 minutes, IIRC

>>16758752

fuck i havent played this game since the original release. i ran into that crawler den as well. im doing the dudes new mission from the expansion and its probably the best mission in a game in at least the last ten years.

>>16754631

>This conflict is handled so shittily

I agree. Only NPC in Free Drones I like is the guy from the Fatherland, but he's clearly confused about the political situation. I think the joke is how similar the Fatherland is to the Protectorate. Free Drone base feels like yet another bandit camp where the enemies just haven't aggroed on you yet. It's filled with NPCs with snowflake names, but almost all of them regurgitate the same few propaganda lines. Hah. Might as well loot the place after I'm done with the quests.

>>16758752

I went there too recently. Dude told me the stolen train was taken by shadows and told me crawlers were shadows, so obviously the train thieves were hiding behind the crawlers (or were crawlers).

Fuck you Dude. Fighting against Crawlers with 3 Constitution is horrible, but at least I got Paranoia and decent Perception.

>>16722929

sauce?

>>16714873

>Undertale expansion

So do I play as Phil Collins or the Keyboard Jew

Where the fuck is the 1.1.1.0 GOG patch? There is new Core City content in it. It has been out legitimately for days. Razor 1911 a shit

>>16762013

777 is known to be stupid slow at times. I wouldn't be surprised if anat was too busy trying to crack another denuvo trash game. I wonder if some trash group like hoodlum will pick it up instead and beat them at their own game.

Bumping from the depths of hell

>>16721988

I want to correct my old stament that was tormenting me for months: skills don't get any synergy boosts if they're already at or above the maximum amount of unmodified skill points possible at your level (lvlx5 + 10). It's still worth maxing out all your combat skills either way.

>>16768410

>It's still worth maxing out all your combat skills either way.

I've gotten through the game fine on only maxing out melee and letting guns get up through synergy.

>>16763553

Jackknife because it effectively raises your lock picking by 10 so I just throw it in my off hand and equip it whenever.

>>16763585

That is one of the best skills anon if you get it the flame thrower power will proc it 95% of the time.

>>16714873

All you have to do is read the reviews of underrail and the expansion on gog.com, and not just the good ones, but ALL of them. Only way you will get the whole big picture of what this game is really like.

>>16763585

Nice gear mate.

>Pyromaniac

From my experience it triggers very often to the point that you can rely on it to fear enemies if you use the flamethrower.

>>16770052

Obviously.

It's a good game, but not very forgiving.

>>16763553

I only used the unique psi staves from the expansion because they seemed to do something with my thought control skills though nothing game changing.

Where the hell is Cornell after you first speak with him in the sewer? Does he just despawn from the world?

I didn't speak to him before finishing the Missing Merchants quest.

Bump

I'm currently roleplaying as a Jew who uses the power of bear traps and Jew magic, with a lot of points put into Mercantile. Far from optimized but so far it works. I can't wait until I hit a wall and have to start all over again.

So, did that Styg interview anon promised ever happen?

Game is excellent but often far too slow for my dopamine flooded and desensitized brain.

>>16718299

Dungeon Rats of Age of Decadence without the story or whatever, just pure combat. The combat was good in that game, and if you really liked it then you'll enjoy it. Otherwise, no. Age of Decadence is an excellent game, however.

>>16791782

>>16794371

>talking about other games in a general

You disgust me