/v/ - Video Games

>>16710827

Start with the first one. It still holds up.

I've played Secret of Mana long ago and the remake recently and TBH, they both suck. I've persisted with SOM because it was "fun with a friend". Remake improves a few things but the difficulty is totally gimped and since it's mostly the same game, it still has all its basic issues. On the other hand Seiken Densetsu 3 is really good (can't wait for the remake - yes I actually said it).

I wanted to write a proper review of SOM remake but I don't know if people would be interested in it enough for me to bother.

The Mana games are nice. Play Linkle Liver Story and Crusader of Centy and the Oasis games too.

>>16711455

For Breath of Fire, 1-4 are all good. 2 has best Nina and best tough girl Katt from your pic. 5 aka Dragon Quarter is an odd one, very much a black sheep but some really like it. Beyond that I think there is also a mobile game, but lets not talk about that.

>>16711455

3 and 4 are by far the best

>>16711757

>>16711768

Cool, I’ll get those on there as well. Should I go with the psp or ps1 version of BoF3?

>>16711356

>>16711373

The only thing I know about Evermore is a very embarrassing GDQ run involving something called Lobotomy chicken, why is good/bad?

>>16711786

It's made by American Square devs, people liked it since it's a competent Mana 2 clone that surprisingly isn't complete garbage.

>>16711265

I disagree completely SoM is a masterpiece. SD3 is meh.

Quintet>Mana

>>16711757

Reminder that Breath of Fire II has a fan retranslation patch so no one has to put up with the garbage job Capcom did to it.

>>16711782

PSP version has the fishing minigame as an entire alternate mode, but does change some other things for the worse, like recoloring a boss clearly ripping on Ultraman. PS1 version's got fan compiled eboots if you want to take it on the go; for whatever reason no one ever cleared it for an official PS1 eboot despite being a fan favorite.

Also, don't be put off if you find BoF1 a bit bland. Series gets better.

>>16711889

Same here. I played them back to back, and my biggest complaint would be that in SD3 the sprites are huge and complex, so during fighting everything becomes impossible to track properly. It's just a big fucking mess.

There were other things, it's long enough I can't remember.

I remember being able to use the fist weapon's charge up attacks to sometimes do crazy combat maneuvers. How the fuck do you actually do those consistently?

>>16710827

The gameboy one is shit, play zelda or for the frog the bell tolls instead.

The SNES ones look and sound gorgeous but the writing/combat/gameplay is mediocre as fuck. Play stuff by Quintet instead (and Soleil/Beyond Oasis on megadrive).

Haven't played the ps1 game coz i gave up on the series.

>>16713703

>Was Adventures of Mana a solid remake on the vita or does it continue the trend of shitty square cash ins?

I dunno, but Sword of Mana is a decent remake, though it adds some pointless systems like weapon crafting.

the mana games haven't been action rpgs since the third one

SD3 is pretty awful with stats that do nothing, bosses and enemies getting instant full screen counters and not being able to attack until your bar fills up.

>>16717014

SD3 is mechanically a mess, thankfully there's a mod to fix that.

>>16720537

I wouldn't waste time with any 2D Zelda when Alundra is around.

So is the collection for Switch any good?

>>16720543

Too bad no one seems to care to take the "Un-Working Designs" patches another level and remove Viccy's decisions from the game's writing as well.

>>16720539

Nobody who praises it is talking about any mods.

The only reason it is praised to high heaven is because it never had a stateside release and none of the people who thing its the best anything have finished it.

>>16720543

Yeah man Alundra and land/ladystalker are rad. Still don't beat most Ys games.

>>16720568

Eh this is neat but kinda lacks in gameplay

>>16720650

>>16720568

Is it best to play Terranigma after having played Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia first?

>>16720666

It doesn't really matter. They're only very loosely connected and even then they're more connected in terms of themes than story. The most explicit reference between games is that the final boss from Soul Blazer is an optional boss in Illusion of Gaia.

The only thing I know of SD3 is a remastered album which has some really neat middle eastern tracks. How is it and the rest of the mana games, remake or not compared to say the Ys games?

>>16720666

consider all 3 worth playing, if only to see how much graphics and gameplay can evolve within a series on one system

but yes, play them in order. If you find yourself disliking one, go to the next in the series rather than writing the whole thing off

>>16720721

not comparable to the Ys series

has much more in common with the GB Zeldas

think of it as a Zelda-like RPG

>Final Fantasy Adventure (Seiken Densetsu 1) vs Sword of Mana (GBA remake) vs Adventures of Mana

I prefer Sword but there's nothing wrong with the original.

Adventures of Mana is a phone game remake that also appeared on Vita. Other than that I know nothing about it

>Secret of Mana vs remake

haven't played remake, nothing wrong with the original. At least, nothing wrong that romhacks haven't fixed. Lots of quality of life stuff

to note is that the game was initially being developed for the SNES CD before ninty screwed sony. As a result, some portions of the game became noticeably truncated or cut outright

>Seiken Densetsu 3

pick your characters and go to war. 3 empires are making a play at world domination and the endgame depends on who your first character is. I've never seen a nonviable team so go nuts

>Legend of Mana

comfy, thy name is Legend of Mana. Plays a bit like a belt scrolling beat-em-up. Tons of world building, tons of quests, 3 major plotlines that unfold over the course of the game

>Children of Mana

skipable but not exactly terrible.

>Dawn of Mana

terribly underrated. A character action kind of game where your level resets after each chapter. You can pull down pillars, push boulders, and otherwise affect the environment to mess with enemies

bosses can be fucking brutal

>Heroes of Mana

an RTS for DS. I didn't care for it

>>16720736

>has much more in common with the GB Zeldas

>think of it as a Zelda-like RPG

I never played a zelda outside of the first NES title.

>>16720759

in that case, Zelda 1 but more linear

Is it pronounced mon-na or man-na?

>>16721462

How do you pronounce mon-na and man-na? What country are you in? What part of that country are you in? What parts were your parents from and how did their speech affect your linguistic development?

Typing out pronunciations like that is retarded because every single reader will have a different idea of how they sound. You will never get an accurate answer.

>>16721462

If you pronounce things with a General American accent it's pronounced mon-na, or more accurately mah-na. Man-na is the pronunciation of just that, the word manna.

>>16722032

Many of the people who work in localization are just failed writers who use video games as a medium to push their own writing.

>>16714141

Choice has a big impact on the outcome of the game too.

What I didn't like about secret of mana is the way of leveling spells. Each time you get a lvl 0 spell and you have to spam it on mobs to level it up. It's grindy as hell especially when you get a new spell at the end of the game and you need it at max level to fight the final bosses.

>>16725001

To be honest you don't really need to grind them, don't need anything at max level for the final bosses either. It just baits you into doing so, the game's difficulty doesn't warrant it. Dryad is a letdown though, coming so late at level 0 with a 4 MP damage spell..

>>16725001

This was one of the big beefs I had with Evermore. It has the same system of spell leveling, but casting said spells requires consumable reagents, which generally require a fair amount of money and/or effort to acquire to any reasonable extent. And most of the spells were niche at best, and useless at worst.

I know Evermore isn't an actual part of the Mana franchise, but still