293f92 No.16708872
"CSK&D has filed a class action lawsuit against Nintendo of America, Inc. (“Nintendo”) for claims relating to alleged defects in the Joy-Con controllers that are part of Nintendo Switch gaming consoles. The complaint, filed in the United States District Court for the Western District of Washington, alleges that the joysticks on Joy-Con controllers are defective, leading users to experience drift issues. Specifically, the complaint alleges that the joystick on the Joy-Con controllers will automatically register movement when the joystick is not being controlled by the user and interfere with gameplay. The complaint, filed on behalf of purchasers of Switches and Joy-Con controllers, brings claims under various consumer protection statutes as well as various warranty and common law claims."
http://archive.is/KfgFp (the non-archived page is taken down as of now)
Plaintiff:
Ryan Diaz
Professional Jews Attorneys:
Benjamin F. Johns, Andrew W. Ferich, and Alex M. Kashurba
69e86a No.16708887
I really want cucktendo to pay up the cash but they'll somehow manage to claim that their controllers are "absolutely fine"
6e4350 No.16709006
to be fair I never have this issue but the buttons and the rubber on the stick are fucking total shit
9335a5 No.16709030
65722c No.16709038
It kinda fucks me up that nintendo made a portable console that people will play the fuck out of, but the controllers have this kind of a problem
40bef2 No.16709044
>>16708872
>video game peripherals forced to a higher standard
>same competition will still drive down prices to around the same as they are now
>nintendo won't get away with the retarded flat "analog stick" finger slipping bullshit or retarded joycons anymore
lawsuits like this are just a net benefit for the consumer
65722c No.16709061
Like, this isn't a Gamecube Dpad prone to breaking kind of issue.
f8bdc8 No.16709069
You can sue for defective and broken goods? I thought all you could do is refund and not buy again but I live in a third world shithole so what do I know about laws
c71eab No.16709080
>>16709006
I never had this issue but the entire console is shit, which is why I never had this issue.
1d2a05 No.16709084
I hope jewtendo crashes with no survivors.
65722c No.16709095
>>16709069
Yes, but it can kinda be difficult since they try to push it to courts that would be tilted.
See: Microsoft not getting fucked six ways by sunday by diverting shit to washington courts all the goddamn time
d3ffc1 No.16709109
This is what all those DMCA takedowns get you you greedy kikes.
072544 No.16709407
>>16709109
>This is what all those DMCA takedowns get you you greedy kikes.
worst case scenario, they pay some pocket change, fix the joycon design, and move along to taking down your favorite content and making billions.
168755 No.16709496
>>16708872
Neat. I wonder if I can get in on this.
f21478 No.16709677
>>16709061
Same with the Nintendo 64 controllers, which was even cheaper. That was literally just plastic rubbing against plastic.
f21478 No.16709683
>>16709069
In the United States, the de facto rule is basically anything is allowed in the business world unless there's a specific law against it or a lawsuit happens.
sage for double post
65722c No.16709726
>>16709677
Well, I was more saying along the lines, that the Gamecube dpad is so legendarily shit, most people aren't even aware that it was prone to breaking.
66a1f0 No.16709752
>>16709030
their fucking logo even looks like the merchant
53ebc4 No.16709753
91f22f No.16709774
>>16708872
And what happens to the millions of scammed consumers that already already own shitty joycons?
65722c No.16709785
>>16709774
They get money, this the first time you've seen a class action?
Did you miss the Lithium battery rebates from like two years ago?
c0982a No.16709788
>>16709774
Usually if they win they'll mail out a settlement or something to a lot of people, I got like $85 froma settlement for an app for a coffeeshop chain that infringed upon some law in Wisconsin, and it was some minor thing that wasn't even an inconvenience just like lawyers make this their job to find little law breaks like that and double down for money
f5a9fb No.16710080
>>16709013
>nintendo potentially sending out free shit to pissed customers
9b4ab3 No.16710088
Class action lawsuits are the most incredibly jewish lawsuits in the land. The law firm is the only one who wins, everyone else gets paid a pittance by comparison, and the corporation barely gets hurt.
16ebe9 No.16710190
They do this against nintendo but microcuck's "elite" controllers get a free pass…
f9762d No.16710200
>Nintendo declares recall/replacement policy free of charge like Apple does for all their defective shit
<class action no longer has a case of any kind and never will
Great laws you have there.
65722c No.16710220
>>16710190
In the least offensive way you could put this.
If you bought an "elite" controller, that doesn't even have an accelerometer, and the only thing "elite" about it was having two stage triggers, and grips.
You kinda deserve to lose $150.
Especially considering you could have got a steam controller, that does, basically everything the elite does with the caveat being a shit dpad
Which xbone controllers already have anyway
744f6c No.16710231
>>16709069
>refund
You clearly DON'T live in a third world shithole. Best you can do is a credit note. Refunds happen once in a blue moon, unless buying at ebay equivalent and seller offers it.
>>16709785
>They get money
Too bad it's usually pocket change. Remind me of the Red Bull class-action lawsuit that ended up in $10 cash refunds. Basically >>16710088 (checked). Best you can hope for is a free replacement/recall.
Though class-action lawsuits are still light-years better than (((arbitration))).
>>16710220
>shit dpad Which xbone controllers already have anyway
you mean 360. Xboner d-pads are decent, although clicky bumpers will forever be absolute shit.
284d01 No.16710248
>just ordered two replacement sticks
>open /v/
>see this
Well fuck. At least they were only 10bux
0d004d No.16710291
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Were there any lawsuits over the Xbone elite controllers?
293f92 No.16710298
>>16710291
No, but they're releasing a V2 that costs even more and may or may not actually work.
0d004d No.16710306
>>16710298
So microsoft releases defective 150$ controllers and nothing happens, but when nintendo releases defective standard controllers that come with the system there's a law suit?
284d01 No.16710357
>>16710291
>>16710306
That's a lot worse but also far fewer (and much dumber, who the fuck buys that?) people had to deal with it, I would assume. Every joycon has the issue or will have it eventually, it's caused by the graphite-like substance used to read the position of the joystick rubbing off.
0d004d No.16710370
>>16710357
Well I missed the part where it's a problem for every joycon. Fair enough I guess.
744f6c No.16710377
>>16710248
What's the difference between the bottom 2 screwdrivers? Is one for those weird JIS Type-S or Frearson screws which look almost identical to Phillips? See pics.
>>16710306
>So microsoft releases defective 150$ controllers and nothing happens
You're right, Microjew should get sued too.
eeb6ac No.16710397
>>16710306
>comes with the system
That's the key point. The elite controller is a "secondary accessory". This would be more like if the Xbox One's bundled controller broke constantly.
284d01 No.16710400
>>16710377
>What's the difference between the bottom 2 screwdrivers?
No clue, but there's a ton of kits similar to that for dirt cheap because so many people have the problem. I'm glad it's a massive design fuckup and not something I need a $25 part for off Alibaba like fucking proprietary video card fans
46d539 No.16710442
nah nigga nintendo has Phoenix Wright, them jews is gunna lose in court
66e56a No.16710489
>>16710088
Why are you angry about jews screwing jews? Let them eat each other
e1d651 No.16710967
>>16709044
>>16709683
So what, Nintendo has a juicy manufacturing agreement with some chink company, so they will hand out consoles and replacements to maintain said cheap business relationship; and if it goes to courts it means that joystick quality becomes a legal issue that can be brought up again in the future?
29df0d No.16711014
The best thing that happens out of this is The Joycons are redesigned and it already actually looks like it, Switch Lite has a different shape to the base of the joycons which is the primary issue, the contact pad wears out because dust is allowed in and acts as an abrasive, wearing down the pad
but most ((( LEGAL EXPERTS ))) are saying this Class action most likely won't do anything because of the Warranty period is within business Standards. Honestly though, I've already replaced 3 joycon joysticks for a grand total of 8 bucks, it's surprisingly easy to replace.
Where the fuck was this class action shit when the N64 came out, None of my N64 controllers work anymore, they Joystick just leans in one direction now
6e4350 No.16711037
>>16711014
ironically the n64 joystick uses a hall effect sensor, so the rubber stick is the shit part, good luck finding a replacement for that lmao
84c7d1 No.16711546
I've had this happen with every left joycon. Spraying contact cleaner up under the little condom that protects the inside of the analog stick fixes it, but I imagine eventually it won't work anymore and the only solution will be to grab broken joycons for parts off ebay since they don't sell replacement analog sticks on the Nintendo store.
>>16709496
Mark?
>>16709785
W-what about Lithium batteries?
>>16710200
>image
Should've fucking won. Although I don't remember what the contest was exactly about. All I remember is 'muh racist troll votes', and they made him lose to a nigger mermaid.
>>16710357
I see. I'm glad someone finally investigated the problem, because Nintendo's excuses were clearly not entirely truthful.
98911b No.16711978
>>16708872
Well that seems a bit overboard, it's not like it caught fire or the plastics gave you brain cancer.
98911b No.16711982
>>16711014
>replaced 3 joycon joysticks
>these things MSRP around $70
Fucking hell m8.
https://archive.fo/jfrnO
495fc2 No.16714333
>>16710088
>free money for everyone and the corporation barely even gets hurt
sounds good to me man
0053c1 No.16714360
>>16710377
I'll never understand why these "tamper proof" screws are a thing. If it's for commercial use then it's just a dick move to get customers to rely on shitty brand name repair shops instead of fixing the shit themselves, and if it's like government/military hardware I imagine no one would have an issue breaking around the screws, unless it's somehow boobytrapped or something.
65722c No.16714398
>>16711546
It was some safety thing about one of the biggest manufacturer. Some people got up to like $1000 depending on how much stuff with LIon batteries they had
a92f54 No.16714421
>>16708872
>Specifically, the complaint alleges that the joystick on the Joy-Con controllers will automatically register movement when the joystick is not being controlled
That used to happen with my old PS2 controllers. I just unplugged them and plugged them back in and they were fine.
b7c3bf No.16714431
>>16711546
>expecting Nintendo to sell basic components
If you already go to ebay then just search "joycon analog sticks". You can get them for 10$.
Also arent 90% of broken joycons broken because of the analog stick?
76b671 No.16714753
How long until Nintendo attempts to C&D the lawsuit for using the trademarked term "Joy-Con" without their written permission?
4a4f7e No.16715066
So half the gaming controllers I've ever had have the "drift" issue. It's inherent to to less robust joysticks. There's a really easy software level solution to this (that some games already implement, just try your whole library, some games will have drift, other won't), and it's to increase the joystick dead zone. I do this for almost every controller I use on PC.
People are just excited for an opportunity to shit on Nintendo. Business as usual.
4a4f7e No.16715081
>>16715074
I'm all for sueing Nintendo and for Nintendo stopping their stupid C&D for fan projects, but people pretending this is some outrageous hardware failure that never happens are either relatively new to the gaming scene or are being disingenuous. I've gotten this with every generation and every console.
1c49fa No.16715101
>>16714421
>I just unplugged them and plugged them back in and they were fine
How are you going to unplug something that isn't plugged in the first place.
>>16715081
>I'm all for X but
This is some redditor tier damage control
Fuck off
07e913 No.16715117
>>16714421
That isn't a drift issue, but a calibration issue instead. The 'neutral' position is assumed to be the one that the stick is in when the controller is powered on, in case of a PS2 controller this is when you turn on the system or replug the controller.
If your controller has some age, some 'wobble' in the neutral position (or you simply held the stick in some direction) when plugging it in, then it'll be miscalibrated.
The joycon on the other hand uses an unusual method of detecting motion through resistance on a pair of strips (one for each axis), and these strips wear out. So it's not a problem with the stick itself, but the flat board where said stick makes contact with.
>>16715066
Dead zone adjustment alone won't save you from a heavily worn contact strip that makes fake readings.
cc7192 No.16715139
>>16714753
I would not put it past them
0e25e7 No.16715176
>>16708872
Great, see you in 2061 for a judgement.
ace9c3 No.16715199
>>16708872
this is not a bug this is a feature
c51e77 No.16715361
>>16711037
>n64 joystick uses a hall effect sensor
IIRC the dreamcast stick uses a hall effect sensor while the n64 uses optical rotary encoders.
173780 No.16715381
>>16715101
>This is some redditor tier damage control
It's likely Mark himself considering the post he was replying to got deleted.
91d64e No.16716665
>>16714360
they're just there as cheap security screws, the idea is that random guy walking around won't have the proper screw driver to unscrew a wall panel using them.
the proprietary screws are the same idea though.
fa25ca No.16717105
someone post the image of the shit Nintendo claimed was "original"
f9762d No.16717973
>>16711546
>Although I don't remember what the contest was exactly about.
Stumbled upon this by accident.
