/v/ - Video Games

When I play in co-op with friends, I keep the mic on and play some touhou or other anime songs. They don't mind and like it.

something something herd mentality something something jews

dude just get discord and play [flavor of the month game] with me bro it'll be fun i swear

It's like all those poeple that need to listen to podcasts or whatever for "background noise" when they play vidya, they can't just play the game on its own. I don't get them.

>>16655002

>normalfags

More specifically, extroverts. Introverted people are perfectly fine with playing/watching something alone, but extroverts demand other people present. They want the perks of introverts (playing games at home whenever) but mutate it to fit their dumbass needs.

>>16655043

>serial experiments lame

Fuck off nigger

It's less that they're afraid of playing alone, it's more that they know multiplayer is a hellhole of cliques partying up, devs grooming community figures, and matchmaking is horse shit, but on a consumer level there isn't really anything they can do about it.

Nevermind that gaming is having to regress back to 2002 to actually start making any real progress in design again.

Normalfags treat gaming purely as a social event, rather than both appreciating the games themselves and being able to enjoy it with friends or alone. Its trendy to play fagnite or LoL or whatever big names are there.

>>16655002

yes most people would rather socialize with friends than play a video game. for them video games are something you do to pass time, not something they want to be intellectually involved with.

I think it's more about modern games being shit. Smashing your dick with a hammer could arguably be more fun with a friend right? I'm being hyperbolic but you get my point.

It also depends on the person. If you're someone who likes to socialize and you don't get that from an activity, be it gaming, dnd, working out, sports, whatever then you probably won't enjoy it as much as if you were with other people. Again, this will vary from person to person and doesn't have much to do with much vidya. For myself, I can spend hours alone in a virtual world but there are also games where I like talking to others. For instance, if it's a co-op centric shooter where you talk shit and whatnot it's fun to poke at people. There are also games that require VoIP for lots of people working together in big battles in competitive formats. Think World of Tanks, EVE Online, Planetside 2, Battlefield; There's a whole other level to those games that normies will never know of because there's a skill wall in place. Good clans/teams don't want shitters on their teams so you'll see the shitter players corralled into PVE and FFA modes where they can huff paint or do whatever it is shitters tend to do.

For PvE centric MMOs, those kinda games don't need VoIP for much else other than verbal shitposting as they're pretty braindead in terms of skill requirement save some cordoned off content for the tryhards that 99% of the players will never reach.

>I don't know, I'm no psychiatrist

Don't worry. It's not a real profession anyways. It's just a made-up "job" so freudloving fags with useless social science degrees can feel good about themselves.

>Playing New Vegas

>Feel lonely

>Sudden urge to make it into town to speak with NPCs

I think I played DOTA so much I don't fucking want other people in my video games.

>>16655082

Not to mention become middlemen/shills for pharmajew

Playing with other people in general confuses me. Sure, I've played online games before, but never one that has any voice chat or chat in general, and certainly never local multiplayer. It's just anxiety-inducing, how can anyone enjoy playing with chat?

>>16655094

You gotta be a shot caller. Team games are nice. Left 4 Dead was that good shit.

>>16655002

>Why does it seem like so many normalfags are incapable of playing alone? It seems like so many need to be constantly talking to someone or merely in the presence of others while playing a video game

They're normalfags. They don't give a rat's ass about vidya itself. It's a vehicle for socializing to them. You should know this by now.

I have the opposite, fear of being forced to socialize.

When I enjoyed the skinner box that was WoW I would strive to be competent at whatever role I played, read strats, learned enemy attacks and placement, got all proper addons and meters etc but would get shit on for never talking.

When forced to get in ventrilo I would just say I had no mic and would make macros if there was some shoutout needed for a event or debuff.

I'm there to push buttons until thing dies efficiently not to talk about my dog or hear raid leader try to get in the healer's pants.

>>16655094

You're a broken fuck up who can't even handle the most fundamental part of being a human. You whine how everything makes you anxious and do nothing to get over it. You're less human than a nigger, maybe even less than a chimp.

Man the fuck up and deal with your stupid fucking problem or stop asking stupid questions because you're so mentally ill you fear a simple conversation with people you can immediately disconnect with and never see again in your life.

I don't think it has that much to do with loneliness. I think it has more to do with people wanting to make sure they have things to blame their fail conditions in games on.

Consider an absolutely single player game, one that's challenging. And imagine a normalfag can't beat the boss. Usually they'll just go "wow this boss is gay and the game is dumb", but they're just trying to deflect from the fact that the game is telling them they aren't good enough to win.

Now, you have an online game, you have several real life people to deal with, both on your team and on the other team. And those people all make mistakes at some point. Mistakes that can easily cost the entire team a victory. Which means that no matter how poorly you play the game, you have someone besides yourself to blame for losing.

I went through a bad phase like this, had some friends and we all played LoL, a lot. Some of us were good, some of us were bad, I was middle of the road. But we usually played together, no one really liked to play by themselves. And we all had things we could blame each other for that would cost us the game. Mainly because we were familiar with each other and how we'd play. If someone was a bad jungler and they sucked in the jungle, it was very easy to blame a loss on them. Obviously I grew out of that and I haven't touched LoL in years upon years. But one thing I noticed is that normalfags love two types of games. The types of games that make them feel good about themselves because they "press F to do something awesome", or the ones where they can blame other players for losing and take all the credit when they win.

And that's why they want to play online and with other people. They have something to blame for losing besides the game. There were some really shitty people in our group. They would leave the group and do solo queue or duo ranked, and they ended up with laughable ranks. Like Bronze V or Bronze IV. Some people in our group went on to Platinum.

But the really shitty ones who managed to end up lower Bronze, they never admitted they had a problem. They could almost always blame other people for the loss, never themselves. And realistically there was nothing in the game telling you

>you are garbage, you are the sole reason you can't progress in the game

there was always another human being doing something to cause that person to lose. Finding people who will admit they fucked up and lost the game, or made a huge mistake, is extremely rare in the world of normalfags. And they more or less are looking for something to blame for when they lose, and other people are the perfect things to blame.

>>16655002

Same reason why streaming has taken off, it's less about playing videogames and more about using them as means for socializing. These kinds of people don't care about vidya, they care about how vidya defines them, they'll make a big deal about their group/clan/server/community but at the end of the day they're all shitters who don't care about improving or taking things seriously, it's about "having fun with friends" and the image they project amongst their peers

>>16655109

>nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger

Nice argument.

I have no problem talking to people in general, especially those I know. But talking to them while playing vidya, trying to communicate in a high-stress, high tention round of gameplay? I don't understand how that's meant to be enjoyable. In a singleplayer game, or without the presence of voice chat, if you fuck up and lose, you can take the time to process what you fucked up, relatively stress-free. In voice chat? You just fucked your entire team over and they're either going to bitch at you for five minutes or be passive-aggressive for half an hour.

Besides, if what you said is true, that conversing with niggers and normalfags is the most important trait of a human, then humanity's fucked.

Because you can't just play the game normally and see what happens from there, it has to be a sterile experience from start to finish. You have to be a special snowflake like everyone with eye shattering cosmetics. You can't use the ingame chat like the plebs because then you won't get bullied by the bad men and can have fellow faggots close to heart at all times. A server browser? Matchmaking? Fuck that, you're here to win, not to have fun, Discord is your server browser.

NPCs need social approval before doing anything.

>>16655161

>except when faggots take out their phones on movie night instead of watching the damn movie, fuck you if you do that

Have you and your friends overreacting to the movie in the most obnoxious ways whenever this happens, or just pause the movie and have all of you stare at him until he gets off the phone.

I don't get this obsession with the phones. I know people who even go to a bathroom with their phones.

>tfw been playing a fighting against cpu for a couple years, check out online forums, they all talk shit about playing against bot and not learning anything, play online and fuck up some above average players

>hey guys

holy shit i just want to hear the fucking game

>>16655043

Sape gene expression will be the end of us all

>>16655181

If there's nothing to read while you're shitting a phone can help with that. I like reading while shitting. If I forget my phone I'll fuck around and read descriptions, labels and ingredients of products in my vicinity.

>>16655002

>Why does it seem like so many normalfags are incapable of playing alone?

Did you ever have that kid in your class that tried his fucking hardest to be the funny guy?

With the rise of twitch and e-celebs this has now turned normalfags into that times 10.

They have to have a fucking spotlight shine onto them and everybody has to know.

Basically, everybody is now a 16 year old teenage girl mentally.

Shit games are the norm right now. But games are always better when played with friends. So in order to stomach the shit games, people have resorted to play with friends. It is that simple.

>>16655002

You know the saying "a game is always fun if you're playing with a friend"?

This applies to people who try to justify their purchase of a shitty online game like I do

>>16655432

xiv?

They know if they play alone they'll be like me and (you)

lol autists are really this buttblasted

>people growing up since 2000 have had access to high speed internet and constant communication

>multiplayer is connecting to a server and playing with whoever is online, instead of playing with friends on a couch or some locals at an arcade

>multiplayer is an option at anytime, instead of when you can get spare time at the same time as friends, or get some quarters for the arcade

Unironically, online gaming is what caused this situation.

>>16655034

Non-stop constant entertainment available anytime anywhere. It eventually leads to some people developing a complex about filling all time possible with input. I've seen people watch TV shows while playing browser games and listening to something on internet radio. None of the three require all that much brainpower. But they need that constant stimulation or they start getting antsy. Internet-induced ADD/ADHD.

>>16655002

I only ever feel that way when I masturbate enough times.

>>16655043

Faggot.

>>16655333

>labels and ingredients of products in my vicinity.

Ah, another connoisseur of shampoo bottles?

Older you get the more annoying everyone seems, could possibly be also I'm just the annoying one but who cares, we're not 5 years old anymore and life isn't some faggot high school popularity contest

>>16655591

t. Discuck

>>16655594

I don't use voice chat and only talk to a handful of folk Ive known 10-20 years on irc. Doesn't make you being a failure of a human any less true.

Being alone is ok in book. It allows me to get shit done.

>>16655596

>iirc

>calls others virgins and failure

Project harder homo.

>>16655607

>iirc

Nice autocorrect faggot.

>>16655002

>I use quotations like that because they really cannot be considered friends in a lot of cases despite how hard they like to think that they are.

>would your 'friend' be willing to have your back whenever you're in trouble? Would they be willing to sacrifice a bit to make your life/lives better?

It's somewhat unreasonable to expect internet associates to go out of their way to do something for someone they've never even seen face to face before, but even then it's not unheard of. For example, I've given online friends money, games, and accessories, just because I could. Is it the same as helping a friend pay rent, or actually going to a physical location in the real world and using your body to help them with a task? No, of course not, but you can't say that such things are absolutely meaningless. There are different levels of connection with people; how do you think deep bonds are formed in the first place? You're much more likely to become intimately familiar with someone who you spend a lot of time with and you you know will be charitable in some way or another when compared with someone who is always busy and who you never interact with. This applies regardless of whether you're online or not.

>there's still a noticeably large group of people who don't play singleplayer games period

Blame modern AAA for this, they're the ones pushing e-sports and multiplayer

>why the fuck do you care about being with someone when you're playing a video game?

>Isn't the main purpose of a video game to have fun or simply to enjoy yourself? Are you not capable of having fun alone?

I think it hearkens back to a time when, perhaps in their youth, they had fun with another family member or friend. Who hasn't had a sleepover with their friend and stayed up all night playing video games while eating junk food, talking, and laughing about stupid shit? These types of people have fond memories of what once was, and look back through the nostalgia to find the magic that they're missing from their lives today. Maybe they realize that they never really cared all that much about video games; they cared about the relationships they formed around video games. Think about it; why is streaming so fucking popular? How many normalfags don't even put forth the pretense of being interested in a game anymore while on stream? I'd bet that most of them would admit that they don't even care about the game they're playing, and that they're only there to interact with their audience (and collect the donations).

>Of course they'll usually just say "It's fun with friends!" despite how fallacious that reasoning is.

For the gregarious social butterfly, all manner of stupid shit can become suddenly acceptable and fun, so long as they're with a group who they really enjoy being around, even if the activities they're engaging in are otherwise mundane or even destructive. Hell, some people don't even need to be around close friends in order to enjoy said stupid shit, as long as they're around a random group of potential friends. As they say, "misery loves company"

>It's as if they want to experience something with someone and that's how they 'share' experiences rather than just telling them about it after playing the game themselves and having their own unique experience

The internet is one big circlejerk, and everyone wants to feel like they're part of a bigger whole. The "communities" that form around a variety of pass times, ways of thinking, and activities are composed of the people for whom said pass times, ways of thinking and activities are objects onto which they can project an identity.

>I don't just play video games, I'm a hardcore gamer!

>I don't just have opinions on politics, I'm an alt-right/progressive/centrist/whatever!

>I don't just like to watch a particular e-celeb, I'm a member in his army! Join the e-celeb army, comrade!

As you can see, this is done because when people look inward, all they find is chaos. The instability of their lives is a great cause of discomfort, from which they'd very much like to escape. If one is part of something bigger than oneself, then one never has to look at himself as an individual, but rather a small component in a larger machine that is operating toward some common goal. Now, this is not to say that one can't be part of a larger movement in order to put oneself amongst those who share his own viewpoints and convictions, but there's a difference between the man who reaches his own conclusions to the best of his ability and then seeks the council of others and he who uses the company of those around him as a refuge from reality.

I don't just play alone, I play in complete silence save the sounds of games; no music, no background videos, not even the game's soundtrack, too distracting. Haven't felt a moment of "something is wrong" about it

>>16655089

>pharmajew

Might as well get the glowinthedarks/blackpills/alphabets/CIA niggers/>>>/leftypol/ dipshits lurking to track my address for stating the obvious: why the fuck hasn't an entrepreneur found a way to cash in on consumer applications of transcranial magnetic stimulation, besides patents and (((beeg pharma)))? and besides TPTB Less invasive than the pinkpills handed out.

Let me blow your mind and make you more cynical than ever: The reason they don't is the same reason most buy a game, play the tutorial and not touch it again and sell it the same week. Its a massive sub market publishers call "The Watercooler gamer effect". These are people that don't like games and would still bully others for doing so were it not for the year of darkness and the 'im such a geek xD' bullshit.

Now people in the mainstream play games because its the new thing to talk about to supplant having an actual personality or comparable likes and dislikes with people around them. Combine it with the old "anything is fun with friends" trope and now you get why trash sells so well, especially when its multiplayer. Its just paying for a different temporary skin to your circlejerk group chat.

>>16655542

>life isn't some faggot high school popularity contest

but it is. life IS a popularity contest. the fuck are you on about?

>>16655109

>not wanting to talk to random strangers is a problem

Not everyone is a normalfag.

I've seen threads like that. At a point this was it was too scary, now it's just every shameless homo as anywhere else. I don't think there's much to really talk about.

>>16655034

>>16655480

It's good when you are playing something with dead time or that isn't all that interesting to begin with. Grinding and repetitive tasks also count. You could ask why play something like that in the first place, but not every game can be a 10/10 and you've got to occupy yourself somehow

>>16655034

I do the same but it depends on what I'm playing, for example; monotonous garbage like MMO's.

>>16655002

Because they're lonely. Way to overthink it, you absolute retard.

>>16655002

It could be that it's partially what you're describing, but it's not just that. Videogames are used as an excuse to hang out these days. Like going to a bar, going to the movies, getting together to play music, etc. It makes sense thay it's easier for losers to connect with others without the need for physical presence, so of course it's desirable for them.

>>16655435

Siege

>>16655754

>FPS ASSFAGGOTS

>>16655706

>Anon talks about how he dislikes being forced into discord/cliquey online enviroments when you just want to play the game

>This fag goes full HURRR YOU NIGGER LOSER YOU WEAKLING

>Same fag proceeds to talk about normalfagotry like hes not one of them

And for the record, a normalfag is somebody that cant comprehend that every person life is dramatically different and thinks his values, the way hes beem raised and his opinions to be the norm for everybody else, usually giving shit to people that dont exactly share his views.

Like you're doing right now nigger.

>>16655181

I'm the only one who doesn't get on my phone

>>16655681

One of the most significant times I heard watercooler talk at my job was when Breath of the Wild came out, and these people were actually playing it. It took them a couple months before discussion petered out, but these guys actually played what they were talking about.

>>16655777

a normalfag is someone whos "normal". but normal is defined by society at large, so in order to be normal, you must seek out other normal people to validate your normality. the people who seek desperately to be normal are the normalfags. people who go out clubbing, people who drink in groups, people who smoke, people who are worried about their appearance, people who play garbage games just because its what everybody else plays, all of those are conditions of normalfaggotry.

>somebody that cant comprehend that every person life is dramatically different and thinks his values, the way hes beem raised and his opinions to be the norm for everybody else, usually giving shit to people that dont exactly share his views.

thats self-centered egoism. read a dictonary you low IQ nigger. its just a tiny part of what encompasses the whole of normalfaggotry.

>Like you're doing right now nigger.

did i hurt your feefees retard? 38dcaf pretty much implied that talking to anyone you aren't directly related to is being a normalfag. well fuck me then, go live in a hut in the middle of the forest. you can't deny the social nature of man, and acting like you're high and mighty because you can't speak up without sperging out makes you sound like you're trying too hard to fit in.

i get it, discord is shit. its full of trannies and no matter which group you join you're always walking on eggshells, thats never fun. doesn't mean you can't make your own group with non retarded people to interact with on alternative software like matrix, qtox, IRC, or even steam.

>>16655681

watercooler gamer. i like that term

>>16655002

imagine writing a passive-aggressive wall of gibberish trying to psychoanalyze players who like social games

>>16655034

>"Why don't you want to listen to the same soundtracks and sound effect over and over again for 4 hours of grinding?!"

>>16655002

>why do social creatures want to socialise?

>>16655777

People from the same society usually do have the same upbringing/values/views. It's why you don't eat dogs or cats.

>>16655906

>not eating dogs or cats

Lmaoing @ you gweilo

>>16655002

I don't even like it when the characters in game disrupt me from experiencing the game, that's why I can't stand modern JRPG design with your party chatting during battles. I can't even imagine what it would be like to have 5 jackasses on discord talking all the time while I'm playing.

Can these people not just enjoy a little bit of desolation and loneliness?

>>16655922

Sounds like you're speaking from personal experience, you are/were one of those people right? And you are using 8ch as another "stream flow of information" to cope with solitude, no?

We are here for you. But be more succinct and to the point.

>>16655922

I have a feeling that these people will be entirely unable to cope if the internet ever goes down.

>>16655926

>Der ewige reddit poster

Every fucking time.

>>16655937

>>Der ewige reddit poster

Hit a nerve, huh?

does listening to podcasts count? i just like some background noise in less-sound-reliant games

>>16655926

To make a better reply, there's a big difference between posting in a thread with anons enjoying/mocking/hating/despairng about something and having to have a constant drip feed of irrelevant info while you're doing something just to fill up the silence between heartbeats.

>>16655945

>there's a big difference between posting in a thread with anons enjoying/mocking/hating/despairng about something and having to have a constant drip feed of irrelevant info while you're doing something just to fill up the silence between heartbeats.

Neither one is necessarily better than the other. I can listen to really informative and meaningful podcasts, or I can shit-post in a waifu thread.

It's easy to attack imaginary people who have "problems" it's much harder to self-reflect on your own problems.

What are your problem anon? Come, sit on the couch and tell me where does it hurt.

>>16655944

A lot of it depends if you are in grindan mode or not. I've certainly watched a movie or listened to music if I'm having to semi AFK with something but that's just because I'm not engaged with that particular game but I'm still having to babysit it. When I'm actually engaged with a game I want no distractions. I want to be fully immersed.

>>16655943

I'm watching you.

I should add that I've never used once Discord and at most I've had Steam when the other partners were incapable of using other services or coming over.

>>16655964

>So you're not really listening while playing the game but whenever the game doesn't let you do anything interesting you do.

That's sort of a failure of game design though if you think about it.

I found some people I genuinely like spending time with so

>>16655052

>serial experiments lame

kys

>>16655002

i enjoy multiplayer more these days b/c fighting human opponents is less predictable and more rewarding. pretty much every boss fight feels basically meaningless once you learn the pattern & solve it, especially now that most games are shamefully easy. what was the last game that even had a hard boss? in contrast, even a total fucking scrub will do shit you don't expect sometimes

>>16655034

This has always perplexed me. Isn't it distracting to have some asshole talking about something in your ear when you are playing a game?

>>16655970

It is but it's sort of a necessary one. Loading times you need to have sometimes and thanks to I think Atari they can't include mini game during them. Respawn times again sort of required and travel time would be weird to skip in an open world affair.

>>16655002

Videogames were born in the arcades, a rowdy place for noisy boys. Consoles were light years behind in technoogy, compared to arcade games. Just watch TRON and see for yourself what the natural habitat of gamers was like.

It was all Nintendo, after the market collapse, that re-established gaming as a past time for loner shut-ins. For shekels, they turned those absolutely normal boys with an interest in kickass electronics, into a bunch of obsessed cowardly losers.

>>16656457

>/tv/ talking shit about leddit

heh

>>16655685

Life is whatever you make of it, you sound like a homo.

>>16655333

Anon, if it takes you longer than a minute to shit(outside of diarrhea), you REALLY need some fiber or fruits and veggies in your diet. You aren't supposed to need to sit on the toilet for 10-20 minutes just to poop. That's not healthy. That's how you get shit like hemorrhoids.

>>16655034

Same I could never understand the appeal of listening to someone talk while you are doing shit.

>>16656518

>life is whatever bruh lol smoke weed everyday 420 nothing matress

>>16655161

I like watching anime with friends while having a chat open next to it (no voice, only text). That way, we can comment on the show without disturbing each other.

>>16655161

>>16655181

>watching movie with friend

>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WOW GUYS THAT WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY

>starts screaming because that's funny apparently

I prefer it when people shut the fuck up

>>16656529

>he doesn't shit and then just sit around doing nothing for 5-10 minutes because ???

Because NO ONE can stand them in person. Despite what reddit, and /leftypol/ etc. say: no one likes them. Not even their fellow miscreants in degeneracy like them. The whole idea of privilege ruins it all as no one is of equal privilege and therefore someone must relent to someone else.

>>16655962

>vidya is meant to be played with other people IMO.

Absolutely, 100% no it is not.

I get that feeling alot when I play single player vidya. I never talk to people when i play games but i still feel uneasy

>>16656481

Is this from Vassal?

>>16656693

>>16656704

I dunno, mates, I can understand some games like the Yakuza series or TWEWY being enjoyable single player experiences but I just don't feel like it a lot of the time nowadays.

>>16656704

That's why multiplayer games disgust me on a personal level. Games involving more than one person are what led to normalfags joining the hobby.

>>16657127

>>bro, tetris is the first videogame

>>16657572

Also… Vidya always was a group thing, way back when scientist were playing tennis for some god forsaken reason. Solo experiences are great just like group ones,but for there on reasons.

>>16655970

And it adds the option for slipping in (((subliminal messages))).

>>16655659

Because it has the possibility to be a simple cure. And (((they))) don't want simple cures, or even cures at all.

>>16656529

With 1 minute the main poop gets out. But not the rest of the poop, outlying parts that did not fall out and need to be pushed out.

>>16657632

*help.

Dammit my autism is showing

>>16656651

I agree it might also explain why normalfags have a hard time pirating games as they use services like steam, discord and etc as a system to show off how they "like" games.

>>16656651

I agree with most of your post. I can't post on forums and 4chan anymore because people don't talk about games. It's the same thing with anime.

>>16655109

If you and your people put normals on a high enough of a pedestal to make socializing with normals mandatory, then I hope you never complain about an epidemic of narcissism in your lands, or whatever, because then that means you enable the same behavior you despise so much by grossly overvaluing the mouth breathers among your people.

>>16657900

A buddy of mine told me himself he will not buy or play games that aren’t on steam cause he said he likes to show off what he plays and how many achievements he has. It brings my piss to a fuckin boil.

>>16658235

A reminder that certain games get bad recommendations on steam because they don't have achievements or trading cards.

It has as much to do with the design of the games as anything else. Squads in battle royale games. Overwatch. Rainbow 6 Siege. MOBAs. All of these games encourage group matchmaking because you don't want to be stuck with randoms, because the game is shit and the people are shit too.

>>16658155

from what I hear Discord is down right now.

good thing I host my own Mumble

>>16658428

damn, cloudflare came back up. nevermind

>>16655034

>>16655901

It depends on the genre. Shooters (wave-survival FPS, twin-stick, shmup), racing games, and roguelikes are perfect for podcast listening. But if you try this with survival horror, CRPGs, adventure games, or anything that depends on story and atmosphere, you really lose something by not giving the game your full attention.

>>16656214

Namco Bandai held the patent on mini-games during loading screens. It expired a few years ago, but I haven't seen anyone take advantage of it. That's probably because they don't need to. Developers got better at hiding their loading screens through game design (Uncharted 2 is a good example), and the process is normally only a few seconds because games are usually read from an HDD/SSD instead of a disc these days. Still, it would have really benefited a lot of sixth and seventh gen titles.

When I had my group of online friends they would always want to call and chat despite me wanting to maybe play a solo game.

>>16658710

*an introverted

>>16658710

Yes. Introversion doesn't mean you're also a complete antisocial reject. A lot of introverts are and a lot don't bother, but some will go out and socialize.

>>16658726

>>16658710

It can depend on how introverted you are and how disciplined/willing you are to expend energy socializing (because extroverts apparently don't feel drained while socializing). That's why some people diagnosed with high functioning autism are "cured" in adult life, they learn to adjust.

>>16655706

<That pic

Doesn't RTS have most of those problems as well though? I'm pretty sure there's a lot of and "noobs only" bait rooms set by 400 APM autists just to troll da newbeez.

>>16658833

i dunno i just looked for a picture to go with the post. i dont like RTS.

>>16658833

I don't like MOBAs but dude reductionism lmao is a terrible argument that can make any game sound bad. I'll do it for arena shooters, one of my favorite genres.

<Hey what are you playing? Is that like Doom?

>Sort of. You respawn in a totally random location, not knowing whether you'll get shot at by another player who happens to be there, and then you have to run around the map in a circle collecting floating items to make yourself more powerful, otherwise every other player who has been doing that since before you died will probably kill you in a straight up fight. Then once you've collected enough items to feel safe, you fight the guy who also has as many items as you, then whoever wins runs around all the most important item locations killing all the weak players who just spawned so they can't challenge his tyrannical reign.

<Wow, that sounds soul crushing

>NO IT'S FUN YOU SHOULD TRY IT

>>16656647

>checking digits

No, John. You are the cuckfugees.

>>16655002

It's the same reason why you're posting here instead of playing video games.

>>16659015

>checking dubs is a cuckchan thing

Is this some kind of reddit-tier cointelpro bullshit?

Check em

>>16659297

>Where do you faggots go day to day that gives you such a hateboner for everyone you see?

/v/.

>>16655926

I've felt that feeling. Most everyone has.

>>16658921

>he doesnt have good enough aim to twitch kill the guy at the top of the leaderboard

>>16659297

>implying we post it constantly

I for one only post it when I actually bother to post in one of these threads and someone hasn't already retrod the same argument.

>>16659605

>tfw have good aim but only realised how to turn off mouse accel recently

the kills I've lost, the headshots I've missed… You feel it too, don't you?

I'm the opposite. I hate playing with other people. you can get bans for being naughty because some GAMER GURL got triggered in the chat.

>>16659675

>posting this constantly

Not to mention, that we haven't really had one of these threads in a while.

>>16659297

>Where do you faggots go day to day that gives you such a hateboner for everyone you see?

It all started the day I'd do movie nights and evreyone but me would be on theit phones despite the fact that we'd all be together.

>>16658710

They're callnormalfags you fucking memer beaner normalfag

>>16659800

Should it be a bannable offence to use normalfag-friendly versions of imageboard words?

That shit's definitely annoying, ever other game I follow have comment sections full of MP NOW autists.

>>16660156

>>16659889

This.

We need to start enforcing proper grammar and the culling of outlanders.

>thread about multiplayer only faggots is full of normalniggers

What a shock.

i wish there was a multiplayer game that didn't bore the hell out of me after a few days

What about people who want to play, say, a multiplayer shooting game together? It would be much easier to coordinate private matches and the like when it can be seen how many people are on at one time. Hell, there's even a Mumble right on fucking /v/ for pirate Splatoon privates.

>>16660438

You can go back to reddit now, you're trying way the fuck too hard.

>>16659675

Don't turn it off. You got used to it already, and your performance will drop if you ditch it, forcing you to relearn how to aim without it.

>>16655034

zoomers are a disgrace.

Normalfags, and in a bigger number zoomers, see gameplay as a social thing because thats how corporations have introduced gaming to this generation. They don't see it as a niche hobby as 90s kids see it.

They need thier podcast, their discord group, their twitch stream to watch another play on the other screen. They can't just play the game. They have to watch someone play it, or pretend to have soneone near on the other screen, or share their progress of the game in social media. Videogames are now mainstream and it fucking sucks because they ar enow catered to the lowest common demographic dumbing down the quality , as well as seeing the fucking dumb cattle show off how they chew it.

Then there's one level above the lvl 1 normalfag, the redditfag, who thinks he's le super gamer nerd because he plays games, although he's just as bad because although this person might enjoy the hobby, he suffers from seeing his hobby as something to show off for cookie social points. This is extremely prevalent in this generation.

People who just play their game and mind their business and later go talk about it without looking for attention in a forum are the minority, and usually the older 25+ generation.

this type of psychographic is the same generation who buys X because its popular or because it's heavily marketed. in short, zoomers and redditfags share the trait of having a herd mentality.

>>16656687

It feels like everyone but you are filming themselves to post later on youtube as AN EPIC REACTION VIDEO, doesn't it? Look at embed related, everyone's trying to out-obnoxious the other and overreacting to shit that's barely funny or noteworthy, yelling and laughing at shit just to be noticed.

>>16660603

>>16655937

I have a feeling that the OPPOSITE would happen. With the internet down, they might freak for a week but after it's been purged from their life they'd actually improve to survive. There's this whole internet detox thing that I think actually helps.

Someone died in my family and I was addicted to phone games up until that point, I couldn't play games after that for a full two weeks because of how shit I felt. I actually kicked the habit a month after I recovered.

It's the CONSTANT access to this shit that wrecks people. The internet creates a convenience trap, we all stick to it because it's something primal in us, but we can leave it if we become unable to use it.

>>16660176

>thinking thats what I meant regarding hotwheels

I get it, you’re just new here. I’d tell you to lurk more but that will not really fix your terminal faggotry.

>>16661184

>free speech means I can disregard proper etiquette

sure, but that means no one will like you and thus gives will get you banned for disturbing the peace.

>>16661217

>banned for disturbing the peace

sounds like highest level of faggotry

>>16661221

We live in a society, faggot.

>>16661387

>I would just get a feeling there can be something wrong and get a worrying feeling that something or someone will just pop into the game that wasn't supposed to be there

And? If something like that does happen (and isn't a bug), worst thing that could happen is screaming your ears off and crashing your game without it being saved first.

>>16661217

<banned for disturbing the peace

>He thinks laws have inherent power.

I, too, remember being in high school once.

>>16661415

>free speech is also giving the right to speech to niggers, kikes, and commies

And those faggots always give themselves away extremely easily, like you Shlomo.

>>16661431

True, still i wouldn't play videogames with people just for that reason not like I have that many people to play with. You ever considered what would happen if something creepy were to happen while you were playing with others?

I almost always need to have background noise, I feel a sense of crushing loneliness otherwise. I say almost because sometimes the gameworld is so good that I don't feel alone anymore.

>>16661459

>free speech means i can and should post the lowest tier of cancer I can

It's people like you that gave me the idea to propose such a rule.

>>16660514

Already had it off for enough time to adjust, and I'm not missing shots like I used to.

While you were fucking around playing video games you weren't busy becoming dictators, so now you can't enforce standards on normalfags. Those normalfags have teamed up with globohomo instead.

>>16661633

shame you cant do shit

mark can

>>16661680

Exactly, cake kike has proven himself time and time again to be the worst thing ever happening to this shit board.

>>16661713

So? If you get banned whenever you post this cancer, that means the board has less of your posts overall, which is a win for everyone.

>>16661459

there's a difference between chaos and being a shit flinging faggot who talks like a nigger.

niggers never went on imageboards until it because mainstream so their concepts do not count

>>16655043

that makes sense

>>16655094

>I can’t even talk to people in a consequence free environment

Jesus Christ how do you function?

>>16658710

Yeah, I pretty much became a NORMALFAG. And that's what we're called, NORMALFAGS. Somewhere a couple years ago, I found out I fucking love watching hockey, apehoop, and other sports. On top of that, you can't be entirely a fucking autist when you're working with other stagehands.

>>16661255

>proper etiquette is needed!

>calls the other person a faggot the next post

put cyanide on your next nesquik, you deliberately obtuse hypocritical zoomer

>>16655002

Simple. They don't actually like video games. They just use them like any other activity as an excuse to socialize.

IMHO it's the way modern society conditions a person to function in a subservient role from birth. As a child they are made to seek permission from parents and teachers, and entering adulthood with a lack of direct authority outside the workplace, they self-regulate and self-censor, continuously adjusting themselves as they monkey their peers. Which has since been turned up to 11 with social media, a socially-mandated yet voluntary (for now) Panopticon cum Skinner Box that provides almost instantaneous feedback. For normies it provides an ever changing guideline of speech and behavior while it works in reverse for the various narcissists that use it to make up for their psychological shortcomings.

tl;dr: Fucking insecure cunts everywhere.

>>16655922

I personally think humans need a balance of time alone and time together. The problem is with the internet/social media, people end up never being alone (or being used to being alone) and why you get people who end up doing stuff like endless twitter rants (and seeking validation) instead of actually doing work.

>>16655937

>I have a feeling that these people will be entirely unable to cope if the internet ever goes down.

Anytime instagram goes down for a few hours (like recently) that basically what happens.

>>16660613

Saw a story from Australia about a family who's sons were basically addicted to tablets. So much so that they even staged a stranger to walk through the house and even stand still a few meters away while one of the kids was glued to his screen to see if he would look up and notice (he didn't). This lead to a detox week, which while hard at first because of withdraw, got the kids back to normal and doing non-tablet activities.

I never really got into online games. Tried them out for a couple of years, could only go back to oldies like Quake III and BFVietnam. The appeal of modern multiplayer games, as other anons have said, is just another normalfag social activity. Skill ceilings are low and the game revolves around cosmetics and other buyable content. It's also why the most marketed games are multiplayer online games, they're what the normalfag consumer wants today.

>>16669680

Kaczynski called it "over-socialization." You can also see it with the reduction of all struggle to personal ones (concerns of feeling over survival).

>meet someone on a game and go to do some shit.

>they hardly respond to conversation

>finally says they are laughing with their friend the whole time

I always blamed Halo but I guess it was voice chat that killed gaming.

>>16655009

>touhou or other anime songs

>touhou or other anime

>touhou

>anime

nigger

>>16655002

Our society is becoming more and more socially dependant and thss is the resilt

>>16681882

It's actually the opposite, we're becoming more socially independent because we hate society more and more and what it's becoming

>>16681889

>we

No, anon, we’re not talking about the 0.0001% who comes here. Everyone else is a slave to jewish media.

>>16681889

>Socially dependent

>Normies thrive off of social media and television

lol sure

Ironically enough most discord chats are flooded with either bots or subhuman retards, you can get better discussions from fucking facebook. Discord really is cancer.

>>16683676

problems with discords is that when I got invited to servers, it's always these super fast chats where there are hundreds of posts a second, nothing good and uncomfortable.

what happened to just being a slow, comfy IRC where people are comfy?

The problem with discord is that they namefag. If you don't understand how namefagging and egotism are cancer, and how anonymous imageboards are the antidote, you can go fuck off.

>>16683688

Most discords I've seen are dead with the same people posting occasional confusing blog posts with bad grammar for days based off the post history, and yet have hundreds of people listed. I've seen irc channels more active and more human.

>>16683700

>he actually used Discord for even a second

>>16683703

I was trying to find discussions that weren't retarded blogging since people keep saying 'x horde shooter/counter strike clone is fun only long as you have friends and invite only, ask people on x discord channel', I didn't realize it'd be that bad.

>>16683723

You sound like you're honestly from generation Z, and I feel your pain, because all of the creative energy that would go towards making FAQs for everyone on GameFAGs is now some jewish hoarding of information on Discord. Very sad.

>>16683725

I stayed the fuck away from discord because of everyone's warnings, I just felt like seeing what this 'abyss' looked like myself. It's just a bunch of dipshits in ponds. Beyond emulating and pirating shit, I don't know if I've ever belonged to a generation beyond growing up in a (((diversified))) city.

>>16683750

I liken it to Twitch chat during a big event—a bunch of 'humans' screaming into the abyss. The chat goes too fast for any meaningful conversation to take place, so all that any participant does is scream into the void.

>>16683773

"They look like bots to you?"

>>16655161

I have the same feelings too. Whenever I watch a movie by myself I always get this "I'm wasting my time" in my head or like I should be doing something more productive yet I never get that when I play vidya alone

>>16683790

That's because movies are passive entertainment. You're just eking out the concept of self actualization. Let's see what you do with it.

>>16655009

>They don't mind and like it.

I hate people like you with a passion.

>>16683796

That's a jew, my man. Calm yourself and center yourself for a whole shitload of kosher spam in your life.

>>16655002

All the friends except one that I have made on 8ch have turned out to be insufferable faggots who would rather orbit trannies than have your back. Pretty sure its universal at this point and not limited solely to normal faggots.

>>16683803

>All the friends except one that I have made on 8ch

That never happened.

>>16683807

>i cant, so nobody can

>>16683897

yes

This is a lonely existence. Even moreso without stable communities, and an optimistic view of the future. Company while you waste your life is all a lot of people have.

>>16683803

I sincerely hope you mean friends you have made on one of those few game nights and found out that you live near each other; and not just you being so bitterly lonely that you claim every random anons that have given you a (you) friend in sheer madness.

Playing single player games when you're with other people must be the most immersion breaking thing ever. I just wanna play and enjoy the game like I want to, not have some fag sitting next to me telling me what to do, making stupid jokes and nagging me to let him play.

In Multiplayer games it depends nowadays most of them are just made so that everyone can just do his job without much need to talk. In MMOs it was always kind of annoying to get group invites while farming. Farming, being very repetitive, is a rather meditative activity, i hate wow daily quests that break relaxed farming and instead force you to do specific shit.

>>16661441

DOESN'T

YOU EBONICS SPEAKING NIGGERS

DOESN'T

>/pol/ doesn't support free speech

Every fucking day throughout the fucking day you faggots use don't where doesn't should be used.

YOU FUCKING WHITE NIGGERS

>>16683745

fuck off, gaslighter. normalfag was always used until we had to share this place with redditors from the migration and Hotwheels letting in more redditors that was destroying the original settlers here.

What Mark should have done was ban people who used that word instead of just filtering it.

I just want some friends I can be my true self with. Like saying niggers without repercussions of having a female friend chew on my balls while I play videogames.

>>16684447

> female friend chew on my balls while I play videogames.

That's kinda hot.

it always makes me laugh when people take steamfags seriously and think they have friends. mmo players especially, they cannot be more deluded. they literally just want to socialise but are too faggoty to actually walk outside and make friends.

nothing makes me more fucking sick to my stomach than online group drama and fake circlejerks.

>>16685118

That also grinds my gears.

>imagine being (thing that is socially unacceptable)

It's such a non-argument that it seems to be the modern day equivalent of "like I literally just can't even"

I have the opposite problem, I'm really shy online, I'm scared of playing online with people who knows me (and people who tries to socialize with me online) I really enjoy split screen co-op, sometimes my friends come to my house and we play those 4 player brawlers, my cousin invites me to play multiplayer games with his friends all the time and I really enjoy those moments

I can easily socialize IRL but the problem starts when people invites me for online play because I get socially anxious almos instantly, now I always set Steam to invisible mode so my friends can't see when I'm online, I really like team vs games but I get so fucking nervous when people acts friendly with me, I go in full panic mode as soon as I hear my nickname in the voice chat, sometimes after reading people paying me compliments in the chat I leave the lobby and change my nickname so they can't send me friend requests, I even use a different nickname for every 8chan gamenight so you can't recognize me

I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me, how do I stop doing this?

>>16686047

normalfags have friends you retard

>>16686758

>spoiler

nothing wrong with that, i had one sperg after me that tried to find my dox or something

Can you really blame them though? Technology is replacing basic human interactions. The small talk you occasionally have with your mother is not enough social interaction. You have no choice but to replace it with the internet and discord happens to be the best at that.

>>16687218

lol story?

>>16666120

>These people need stimulation and interactions literally EVERY SECOND and yes I was one of those.

How did you fix yourself of this dependency? Was there something that made it easier?

>>16655611

>a-autocorrect

>t-that will show him

>>16693210

>>16693159

It's one thing to be a shitty speller, it's another thing to be a phoneposter.

>>16693226

but im not phoneposting nigger

and pretty sure cuckbooks have autocorrect too

>>16655002

>why people social??

Same reason you're writing longwinded blog posts here instead of privately in your journal. Take your own advice and unplug your internet.

>>16693356

>internet

>social

>>16693373

it's a proxy for social interaction, apparently you and OP crave it like a drug.

>>16655109

>[toughguy](1)[/toughguy]

>>16693405

>If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, did it make a sound?

I've always thought this really foolish, lack of observation doesn't mean that something didn't happen. May as well say that object permanence isn't real.

>>16699828

It's one of those stupid philosophical definition arguments. You know, like that one guy said about, "What does it mean to walk around a tree?" where the answer of "when you simply walk about its circumference" isn't actually the answer because of the subjectivity of definition involved. I forget the bloke's name.

>>16699828

>>16699896

the answer is yes. whoever goes into a philosophical discussion about the sound is a fucking retard. the soundwaves are generated so the sound exists.

>>16699896

>>16699828

The answer is no, it doesn't make a sound. air waves on their own don't make a sound unless something is there to hear/record it. Fuck your 'philosophical' bullshit. This is science.

>>16700005

>Air waves don't make a sound unless something is there to hear/record it

That doesn't make any sense.

>>16700005

>vibrations dont exist because no one perceives them lmao

i guess the rest of the universe doesn't exist because we dont see it right? and bacteria also doesnt exist because we cant see them without a white man magic tool right? fucking retard

dont mind me just checking the get

>>16700000

>>16687214

then why do they obsess over guilds and gay shit like that? normalniggers are the ones using discord, idiot.

its only actual successful ones that only have irl friends who have formed actual bonds and can get along without some sad excuse for a game happening in the background.

failed normals is perhaps a better term for the masses of twitch-addled braindeads addicted to shallow online interaction.

>>16655181

Sometimes when I have a painful shit or just want to unwind and no book is in sight, yeah, I'll sit with my phone.

The only good games are co-op games.

Not multiplayer. Co-op. Two boys, one couch.

Fucking prove me wrong faggots.

>>16700512

I, personally, hate split screen. Hot seat kind of stuff, like in strategies - maybe.

>>16655002

OP confirmed as too underage to remember Vent and Mumble servers. People have been chatting together while playing SP games for twenty years, this isn't some kind of unique zoomer thing.

>>16701598

Games aren't worth playing anymore

and faggots that love old games can't play them without coming to talk about them here, so in a sense, they too are victims of "playing alone phobia"

>>16701611

Could it be that humans like socialisation and pretending to be above that is gay spergery?

No, clearly OP is just a better gamer, which is why he's blogging about it to his fake internet friends.

>>16701618

>humans like socialisation

I'd say they like to be reassured, which is why echo-chamber mentality is at an all-time high.

Also, has anyone mentioned the trend-following mentality yet? Because this feels like it would fall under that. People had nothing but pure contempt for nerd shit but then it started being marketed towards them and they love it now. While still shitting on actual nerds and nerd culture.

Playing approved games with people they approve of, while shitting and wishing death on toxic gamers and never touching a game by themselves seems similar

>>16701843

>armchair psychologist

how very jewish of you

>>16701818

Didn't say I was exempt. I mostly come to imageboards because no one else will talk to me. I admit it though.

activity based hobbies like multiplayer videogames, hunting or playing sports are just better with trusted companion than playing with randoms

fun with friends is legitimate argument if the game in question is just fun with friends but you wouldn't otherwise play it alone, think like playing football - playing with randoms gives you less fun because its more engaging to do it with friends whom you have better cooperation with and it allows you to create nice memories of time spent together

>>16701915

Playing with randos is how you get said companions. Or at least for games with a more consistent grouping like servers, most current matchmaking is to making friends as one night stands are to getting a girlfriend.

what in the ever loving fuck happened to this thread

>>16701904

Oy vey, stop holocausting me, Nazi

>>16701930

On second thought it's a bit of a redundant statement considering almost all psychology is armchair pontificated and pathologising by jews.

>>16701918

If i play online games it's almost always with 2 guys i know irl, the ones with matchmaking shit quickly bore me

pontification

Because most people have never BEEN alone. The vast majority of people are highly social creatures and have been since they were toddlers. They had siblings, cousins, friends, etc. surrounding them their entire lives. They always had someone to talk to, to share games and toys with; and especially for the generation younger than ~25 right now, spent virtually all their childhood and teenage years connected to the entire world through the internet and their phones. These people are so dependent on others for their lives that they feel extremely uncomfortable when they are alone. Even if they are technically doing a solitary activity like reading a book or playing a mobile game, they will want to be sitting near a friend or SO or relative who is doing the same thing, just being close or "hanging out". Even when they DO play a singleplayer game, they still want to share it through blogs or let's-plays or streaming or whatever. They are basically incapable of being alone. Believe it or not, this is fairly normal for humans.

It takes an extremely bizarre and abnormal childhood and upbringing for a person to become so comfortable being alone that life is basically a singleplayer game. Not to turn this into a blogpost, but as an example I am one of those people. Single child, largely hands-off parents, highly introverted (probably autistic) and independent. I spent a large amount of my early childhood in a daycare (both parents worked) but I was literally the only one there older than ~4 so the other kids were more like props than playmates, and when they went to nap in the afternoon I was TOTALLY ALONE, for HOURS, and this being the early 90's the internet did not exist in any meaningful capacity. The lady who ran the daycare didn't even bother to supervise me because she knew I was a loner and knew I wouldn't get into trouble. I had zero company. Very few people understand what that is like and how it affects a person. Being alone for most kids is a punishment, like being sent to your room for a half-hour because they did something wrong.

Being able to entertain myself and keep myself company wasn't just a required tactic, but a default condition. Hardly anyone my age, least of all kids and teens today, know how to do that. (In this way I have more in common with senior citizens twice my age, than people my age and younger). It's not just a matter of being leashed to their electronic devices; it's a matter of being tied to each other, as if in a spiderweb that is also their lifelines. Contrary to the popular joke, if the power went out teens today wouldn't go crazy because they don't have their games and internet. They would just go to each other's houses and "hang out", because they don't actually NEED the games - they NEED each other. Mobile games are for the 30-somethings and middle-aged men and bored old people; the kids just text and share photos and shit on facebook. The way they game is the same way.

>>16702734

>>16703353

just form your own group. really its not that hard. you dont even have to use discord and you can play games together and call each other NIGGERS and FAGGOTS without restriction

>>16655014

This, but without the smug aura of commie superiority.

>>16708175

>try to form group of friends with good taste

>they almost always turn out to be nonwhite, usually SE Asian or some other breed of mystery meat genetic concoction

>the type that is 'ironically' a 'weeb' or 'gamer' usually

Stuff like that makes me wish I had a brother growing up.

>>16708286

so what? you're never going to meet them IRL

>>16708626

What's there to talk about? Games are either shit, or old as shit, and if you aren't shittalking them you are clearly a shill.

>>16655002

I'll play games irl with my friend , I've got like seven or eight game systems that are set up in my living room. Apart from that It'll mainly just be me setting up battles with AI in Arma , I'll normally do it with enhancements along with some stuff to improve ACE.

you retards are all trying so hard to psycho-analyse normalfags

normalfags play FIFA and COD, there are plenty of autists who don't play singleplayer games preferring multiplayer, myself included

>>16655922

You can sum this up as "the fear of missing out". In this day and age of constant communication, social media and 'mainstream memes' a lot of people who have grown up with the internet or been absorbed by it feel a constant need to stay 'connected'. If broadband goes down in a household, how many people freak the fuck out? If their favourite website has gone down like instagram, how many users lose their god damn minds? It's the same deal with multiplayer games. If they're not playing them then they risk missing out on some new meme or just not being in the "know".