/v/ - Video Games

maybe the real grand strategy was the friends we made along the way

>>16648241

>What's a fun playthrough to do in the mod?

I like playing Neferata. You start in some mountainous shithole surrounded by goblins and dwarves who both absolutely hate you, with dwarves (unless the new version fixes it) essentially having cheats on – not only do their castles take absolutely ridiculous amounts of time to siege down, they also get what amounts to infinite troops, since they can convert prestige (which they have assloads of due to living for centuries) into 3k stacks over and over again. They also have a chance of forming a dwarven ethnostate through an event, at which point you're looking at pretty much every dorf in the world coming to fuck your shit. Pretty fun.

You also get to do all the fun vampire shit like turning your rival's daughter into a vampire loli or sending whorepires into the Empire to earn you gold by being prostitutes (not even fucking joking).

>>16648241

That would be fantastic. I always like playing in the border princes region since you have a mixture of everything from beastmen to Bretonnia to Norsca down there and no major powers to bully you.

>>16649539

Uhh what did people keep as livestock before then? Fairly certain goats and sheep were pretty universal throughout the world at all times in history. I can't imagine the hellenic farmer being rich enough to keep cattle.

>>16649675

>hellenic farmer

i.e not a pastoralist

>>16649675

Pastoralists deal with caprine and ovine livestock on a far larger scale than farmers. They travel around huge swathes of land in search for grazing areas (since they have no set residence), hence they deplete grasslands on a larger scales; a hellenic farmer would've had a couple grazing areas for several seasons, t*rks probably depleted land till it eroded and moved onto another area.

Speaking of which, a similar thing happened in medieval Georgia which funnily enough triggered the events which led to the battle of Didgori: t*rks from the seljuq empire, apart from raping and raiding, would illegally use grasslands and farmlands from the Kingdom of Georgia as grazing lands for their livestock, causing a HUGE discomfort among the settled, legal population of the country.

Bottomline is: t*rks were, are and will be subhumans who never adapted to the modern standards of any era.

I pirated eu4 again and VeF crashes to desktop at the menu screen. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong besides playing eu4?

Also fuck turks.

>>16654836

Well playing it vanilla only causes it to crash shortly thereafter. Maybe it's my potato of a computer.

>>16655731

>mafia being a thing in a fascist/right-wing dictatorship

>when Mussolini sent in the army, laid siege to their cities and squeezed the mafia so hard they had to run across the ocean to escape his wrath

>faggots being allowed to exist

>faggots being allowed to exist long enough to organize and form an armed resistance

>not being strung up the nearest tree/lamppost by a lynch mob without even requiring government intervention

>Pajeets also not lynching faggots on sight when they do so regularly in India to this day

What a fucking joke. In a sane society faggots would be purged so hard not even their existence would enter the mainstream.

>>16655731

>fag riots

>organized fag resistance

>"Gay power!"

lmaoing my ass off

>>16655815

I wonder if this is just because they cant have race riots without steam nuking their mod off the workshop

>>16655915

Doubtful considering they could just host the mod elsewhere.

>>16655928

So basically, they're just no-fun-allowed faggots.

>t*rk mod removes my contribution again

lmao seethe harder rapebabby

>The real ecological disaster was the Turkish pastoralist's bringing millions of goats to Anatolia. Goats, like sheep, eat the grass down to it's crown and root-base, denuding the land and turning verdant fields into desert. The only reason sheep haven't been able to do this to the British Isles is due to the high rainfall levels, which replenish the grass more quickly. Still, the enclosure movement has drastically altered the ecology of the Scottish Highlands in a way that may be irreversible.

>>16655915

No the makers of the mod are either liberal faggots or commies.

>>16655783

Thanks anon

>>16655915

No talk of how Stonewall (IIRC) had a pedo ring to its hookup culture, so it's clear where they're leaning. One of the demo nations even has an event chain about legalizing it in their war torn Russian backwater because abloo bloo two refugees are gay and sad.

Though bizarrely, the devs went out of their way to make sodomite rights a terrible idea, as it gives substantial penalties that only recede with time. Meanwhile, there's 0 penalties to keeping it illegal forever. Similarly, their economy guy made a big stink about how much he loves Keynesian economics, only for the various tax laws to be an Austrian dream.

Though the real kicker is commies getting butthurt because the devs somehow aren't anti-nazi enough for their tastes. One example was accusations of 'humanizing' Rosenberg in game for, uh, having the exact same racial theories he did in reality (he considered Slavs Aryan). The devs are experiencing the 'anything other than complete submission isn't good enough' problem in real time; I'd almost feel bad if they hadn't brought it on themselves.

>>16657400

They recently came out with 1.1 which fixed some things but its still a very bland and painfully unfinished game. There's potential but it'll be several years down the road - if they ever get there.

>>16655915

What mod for any HoI game does actually feature race riots?

>>16655796

>mafia being a thing in a fascist/right-wing dictatorship

except mafia was a thing in fascist Italy, Mussolini literally got them murdered in the streets, they didn't like it so the (((American ambassadors))) managed to cut them a deal, in exchange of the bottom half of Italy and impunity they'd use their own secret agents to help the Allies sneak into the peninsula.

>>16658031

I did mention the part where Mussolini sent one of his trusted subordinates and some 10,000 soldiers to the south of Italy and laid siege to cities that were Mafia strongholds, cut telephone wires and went house to house arresting or shooting every guido they found.

There's a few documentaries in Italian about it where disgusting commie intellectuals and journalists cry bitter tears at this monstrous "injustice" and human rights abuse. Hilarious to watch those vermin defending pimps, brutes and murderers.

>>16658031

The Cosa Nostra was almost obliterated during Mussolini's rule. They were barely 1/100th as strong as they were in the late 30s as they were before the Italy adopted fascism. He utterly ruined them and it was only after the war that they began to resurface.

>>16657400

There's a Fall of Rome mod that sets the map to about 400 As, that's about it. The game is still incredibly bland. Naval combat is a bit better now I guess.

>>16648241

Where'd you hear there was going to be an update "soon", seems to me Geheimnisnacht is pretty much dead.

>>16658060

>>16658052

>almost

that's the key word here, and that's the biggest problem with it, they were still able to relay critical info to the Allies so that their operation could succeed, otherwise Italy for what shit of a military they had was still perfectly capable of holding out in their territorial waters.

>>16658508

But at that point why not just make their own /gsg/

>>16655783

Tried it, not even an alpha at this stage; crashes quite often in the late game and a lot of localizations are missing

Still, good on the guy for leaking it and you gotta laugh at all the white knights getting pissy over someone leaking what's going to be free content anyways

>>16660740

having more clay and not having to deal with bullshit HRE politics anymore

>>16660740

-Mecklenburg and Lorraine stop spamming merchants at the Centres of Trade where you are trying to maintain a monopoly.

-Weirdly named rulers.

-Satisfying map painting.

Wouldn't you need to be absolutely massive to have those bonuses outweigh owning all of Central Europe, though?

>>16655731

>TNO

At first I was interested in it because it seemed like an interesting concept but when I got to playing it I saw that everything was pretty fucking lame

>Dire Brigade is a bunch of German Bandits led by some Jewish looking cringe faggot

Nigger what? The only good part in the writing for these fags was the bear attack, other than that they act like a scapegoat for muh ebil Germans which I get is essentially the whole mod but this is rather retarded.

>Soviet Mad Scientist

Also pretty gay and lame, nothing really fun or magical with him.

The other two arent even worth mentioning but I have to move onto the setting

>Russia being bombed daily by Luftwaffe

Retarded because of "Lebensraum" and the whole view of Slavs, Gerries would have never done this nor would have had any reason to.

Actually fuck trying to delve into any of this when everything you need to know about the future of this antifa fanfiction is here: https://allthetropes.orain.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/TheNewOrderLastDaysofEurope

>>16662694

it gives me a 404

>>16662788

Sorry, I had a boomer moment.

https://allthetropes.orain.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/TheNewOrderLastDaysofEurope

Should work

Weird, it doesnt seem to be able to be posted, again boomer moment I think but you can certainly find it if you google the name

Sage for my idiocy in this matter

>>16662804

>>16662812

It's fine, anon.Nobody cares about that shitty mod anyway.

Tank rush!

>>16665965

Every single patch until you like it.

t. Johan

>>16666054

Institutions are never getting rolled back because the official forums are more infested with niggers and white guilters than with Turks at this point. There's always more agitation there to make the inhabited world harder to colonize when the inept AI rarely manages the uninhabited parts as it is.

>>16666096

in soem ways instituitions are ok, but need to be way mroe split up and mroe difficult, soem give cheaper technolgoy or other bonuses, but it would definetly help to create a larger difference between places, for example american tribes not having embraced animal husbandry etc small but important hings, and many more thant can help the game overall

>>16666101

That's what MEIOU and Crashes and Veritas et Never Updated are for.

>>16666096

>actually responding to a guy that speaks like a complete retard

>>16666104

yeah, but it doesn't incorporate rebels and agresive expansion correctly

>>16666111

apology's for my dyslexia

>>16666076

Nice Armenoid rapebabies bro

>>16661122

Meaning if Europe won WW2 the remnants of the mafia would have been stamped out entirely as they were already 99% of the way to extinction.

>>16662694

>>16662804

>>16662812

there's no such page, anon, and I doubt you meant tvtropes

>>16667116

Reading about it on TvTropes, shithole that it is.

>In the 50s, Germany suffers a massive economic crash.

Fucking how? They won the war, they control some of the richest and most potent countries on the globe and have access to their colonial empires. They didn't even get savaged by the Russians in the East. Even with communism literally rotting the country from within after a catastrophic war it took the USSR nearly 50 years to implode.

Was the German leadership paving highways with gold or something?

>Germany is increasingly unstable, with a young generation beginning to protest against the failures of Germany.

Yeah, not like it was the German youth that was most ardent in their support of the new regime that then went on to win the war. These fuckwits seem to not understand student protests in the USSR were against Russian rule, not Russians themselves protesting against the regime.

>it was an actual proposal to expand European land and increase the control European nations could exercise over their African colonies. Of course, in reality, everyone realized that the project was insane and it never left the drawing board, whereas in The New Order, the Nazis are actually insane enough to do it

The project was insane but the Germans actually did it, the madmen! If it's feasible and successful how is it insane?

>The Free Aviators, a group of female Soviet pilots stationed in Tazovsky, still spread terror among the German pilots and shoot any German bomber in the Urals that make their way past. The legends among Germans tell that they seek to avenge their dead husbands and sons.

Can't have a soy mod without some feminine penis dicksucking. After all, we know what great pilots and soldiers women make, right?

>Himmler (widely recognized even in the Reich as one of the most evil men on the planet)

An argument could be made that Goering wasn't a paragon of virtue, what with his drug excesses and graft, but Himmler? What did he do that would paint him as evil other than being an actually good administrator?

>subverted with Speer

Oh, yeah, Speer was such a snowflake. Guess throwing everyone else under the bus to save your own skin counts as being a good guy. Then again, leftists do seem to think being a (race) traitors is the highest achievement one could strive for.

>Much of West Africa is labelled Anarchy on the map, and lacks much government above the village level… as German bombers regularly fly overhead and bomb any sign of civilization to stop threats from emerging and as target practice.

What is it with these faggots and having Germans bomb everything in sight? If they wanted to fuck with Africa all they would need to do is move troops in and chase the niggers out. Also, they seem to genuinely think niggers could build anything more complex than a mudhut without whitey.

>Albert Speer genuinely seeks to reform the Reich into something that is half decent

>One of the reasons why Germany just doesn't crush the rioting students by the start of the game is that the government doesn't want to make it look like they are killing pure German Aryans and their children, and they only try to contain the protest

Yeah, those Germans are fucking monsters, let me tell you.

>There is no diplomacy in Göring's vision, only war!

Wait, why is Goering the warmonger here?

>In Orenburg, there is an event chain about a lesbian couple that meets misunderstanding and rejection by their fellow villagers. In the worst outcome of the chain, depending on player's choices, the couple is lynched by the angry mob

The tragedy.

>an extreme Spartanist totalitarian society

>the Spartanist lifestyle prohibits any societal excesses and freedoms

But Sparta was a democracy.

>>16667178

>But Sparta was a democracy

Fucking when? During its heyday most of its population was maltreated slaves and the upper class lived in such rigid fear of their law that they preferred death over breaking it. You know, like at Thermopylae?

>>16667178

>Fucking how? Was the German leadership paving highways with gold or something?

Drying up the Mediterranean, building killsats and other assorted superscience projects, daily bombing of Africa and Russia for decades… Basically, they assume that after the war Germany does all the stupid or hypothetical shit they could. Economy also crashes because of all the slave labour; later on the page is says that many Germans became NEETs because of that.

>If it's feasible and successful how is it insane?

Anon, the mod's premise is explicitly "everything about Germany works, until the mod starts, then rules suddenly change and many previously viable things become traps". Great writing, isn't it?

>What did he do that would paint him as evil other than being an actually good administrator?

Was a Nazi, it seems.

>Wait, why is Goering the warmonger here?

Because Göring thinks that Germany was at its best during the war, so the way to get out of the crisis is to wage more wars. Btw, the only reason Speer is sympathetic is because now he is a lefty who thinks National Socialism has failed.

>>16667178

btw: Speer and Speidel (the two most politically correct German leaders) both believe that aryan supremacy and other racial theories are a sham, even though, you know, they have been unequivocally proven true.

And another thing: you know Trofim Lysenko, that full-time nigger known for Lysenkoism, a retarded pseudoscientific hypothesis that was adopted by USSR and led to many famines? He has his own faction in the game and it has a 25% reduction in research time.

>>16667086

>>16666104

It's pretty stable if you have the hardware to pull it off. It's the reason I invested in a much better CPU than I'd otherwise need for my toaster.

>>16667188

Every ancient city state had slaves, anon, and helots were among the better treated. Democracy doesn't equal universal suffrage, faggot. As for lawmaking itself, the government was something in between a democracy and oligarchy

>>16667210

>lysenko

>reduction to research-time

Imagine being the one who came up with the idea to put that in the mod. Holy fucking shit.

>>6667226

>Every ancient city state had slaves

Why do you pretend this is a revelation? And it's besides the point. There is literally no way to interpret the government system of Sparta as a democracy of any model. They didn't consider it one (their mythical founder and law maker supposedly openly mocked the idea), the Greek democracies didn't consider it one, and nobody familiar with it would consider it one today.

>>16667188

Nigger, Spartans elected their government. The helots were closers to serfs than slaves the way we understand them. Stop getting your information of Sparta from meme-history.

>>16667194

>Basically, they assume that after the war Germany does all the stupid or hypothetical shit they could

And by that you mean act like typical fanfic writers and bash characters they don't like. What's the point of the mod if you take the core premise and then "subvert" it? And by subvert they seem to mean insert as many dumb and railroaded ways to fuck over players that want to have fun, and punish them for playing historically accurate Nazis instead of mustache-twirling caricatures of them or some leftists fanwank.

>Great writing, isn't it?

I'm just going back to playing Fatherland, at least there Germany doesn't act completely retarded. Everything about the mod is fucking stupid, but especially anarchists and commies coming out of the woodwork to start a civil war in Germany. Not only would they lack the USSR supplying them with money and instructors to form an effective resistance, but the German state isn't a democracy forced to respect their human rights, anything beyond basement dwelling NEETs trading Das Kapital copies with their boyfriends would land you in jail, or worse.

>>16667228

Bet you anything xir is a regular on /leftypol/.

It gets dumber:

>Göring's Sun Gun: a satellite system equipped with a concave mirror, which in theory is able to concentrate rays from the sun to a small area on Earth and is capable of destroying an entire city. Luckily for the Reich's enemies, harsh reality won't match Göring's over-expectations for his new toy…

So, Nazis are not only building completely unrealistic superweapons (fucking why? They have nukes), but ones they know full well don't work. Goering was not a stupid man, in fact, he was quite smart.

Also, apparently Himmler wants to nuke the planet and everyone on it because he's a LARPer.

>Heydrich can issue a "One Child Policy", which allows every German family to raise their first for themselves, with all subsequent ones being considered party property to be sent to work in the military or industry when they grow up.

This coming from the puppet of the man that was advocating polygny in the Reich so German population could explode in numbers.

>The German Civil War affords Himmler the chance to raid German nuclear stockpiles, assisted by Heydrich. Should Heydrich actually win the war, he will continue to deliver German nukes to SS Burgund, making them a major nuclear power and greatly advancing Himmler's ambitions.

Himmler is basically Doctor Doom.

>Dirlewanger

>let's take the faggot literally everyone wanted dead and give him a state so we can make the Nazis look even more bad

>Nazism is so inefficient

I've yet to see anyone explain how exactly the Nazi economic model is inefficient, let alone more inefficient than communism.

>The actual Final Solution was stopped after the German officials realized it is much more effective for the ruined post-war economy to use "sub-humans" and "degenerates" as a slave workforce than simply exterminating them

Hey, the Holocaust didn't happen!

>>16667242

A common propaganda point against Germany is that its economy was unsustainable either due to depending on militarization or on pilfering other countries. These are both factually incorrect (Germany was late to militarize and its economic recovery took place well before the war started) and are largely a case of Jewish projection (the (((USA))) actually relied on militarization to get out of the Great Depression and the (((USSR))) actually relied on pilfering German factories to keep their economy going after the war once the USA wasn't propping it up anymore) but that doesn't stop low-functioning automata "people" on the left from echoing the idea.

>>16667257

>was unsustainable either due to depending on militarization or on pilfering other countries

And they won the fucking war. They could basically order the rest of Europe to pay war reparations. There's also the simple fact most of Western Europe is basically untouched, as is the German industrial base.

Their only justification for the economic collapse is Germans draining the Mediterranean and launching a giant mirror in space. Somehow Nazi leaders like Goering (rather laid back and not enamored with waging war) and Himmler (talented administrator with an interest in the occult and Germany's pagan past) go full retard on theoretical projects, the later becoming a super-villain.

I wonder why they didn't have one of the allies go build that aircraft carrier made of ice.

>>16665910

>>16665922

>actually doing things with central asia

Oh wow, i never thought this day would come.

>>16667314

I was gonna do stuff to Persia & the 'stans as well but the HFM team's already doing it.

Right now I'm simply gonna focus on Tibet, Nepal and Kashmir before finishing Mexico, shouldn't take too long.

Imagine, the history of some new world nation that's not even 300 years old is way more convoluted than shitholes that have existed for hundreds of years.

>>16667328

Well anon, central asia is a whole lot of landlocked fucking nothing, not much can happen there

>>16667345

You'd be surprised. The Great Game was pretty intense back in the day, should be on par with some pretty convoluted chains of events like the whole deal with Guyana if it were redone by me. Also there's the Anglo-Persian wars, Nepalese-Tibetan wars, Qing-Sikh wars, the Tibetan-British expedition to Sikkim and a shitton of expeditions to Tibet including Anglos and Chink republican, Tibet' breaking free from Chink rule in 1911 and the Qinghai-Tibet turmoil.

There's lots of stuff that could be added, tbh Tibet really deserves to be free.

Are there any that run on nigger-tier PCs? I wanna try out a strategy game where I can take over the world or something like EU4 for example but my PC is fucking garbage and can't run it.

>>16667421

Hearts of Iron 2 is pretty toaster friendly

>>16667421

I play darkest hour and eu3 with a mod that simplifies the graphics so it will run on my toaster.

>>16667188

Sparta was praised as a model blend of all three forms of Aristotelian Governship (Monarchy, Aristocracy, and Politie).

It had the Appella (the "democratic" part), the Gerontes (the aristocratic part) and two kings, who were kept in check by each other and the Ephors.

>>16667232

I am pointing out that having slaves does not disqualify it from being a democracy, like you implied

So the After the End "Fan"Fork for Crusader Kings 2 is cucking out, moving the Rust Cultist religion to the Old World Religion group, making it a reformed religion and removing all Warhammer40k references, replacing it with retarded transhumanism and feminism.

Fucking why? It was literally one of the most fun pagan religions, and the Warhammer references were one of the thing that made the mod great.

>>16668035

I found them off-putting, they didn't fit with the theme of the mod. Making shit feminist is of course only to be expected from Paradox modding fags. I just saw this thing on Steam, too:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1789210060

Commies ruin everything.

>>16667328

What do you think the ETA is for the next update is for your mod or for the rest of HFM mod? Hasn't been any changes from them for nearly a year

>>16668615

I don't know. Probably a few months more for my mod. As for HFM I have no idea at all, don't know anyone in the dev team. I actually wanna branch off to my own thing and I wanna do it after this next bigass HFM update.

>>16668690

Tell us more.

>>16668698

About what.

>>16668705

If you branch off, dont you have to scrap (or rework) all the HFM content?

>>16668711

lolno, but seriously speaking branching off would be pretty tedious since I'd have to manually update every mod that gets updated so now that I think about it, I think I'm better leeching off of the mainstream HFM while adding whatever the fuck I want.

>>16668737

Well, I'm wagecucking and I'm also a one man team. If I had someone to help me I guess the updates could come out a little quicker.

What's "grand" about these games?

>>16668750

deez nuts

>>16668750

Replace "grand" with blobing and got your answer.

>>16667850

Link?

>>16668685

>>16668066

>I found them off-putting, they didn't fit with the theme of the mod.

Gaians are a feminist utopia that would never happen in reality. Druidism is straight up taken from another mod. Occultists that treat Lovecraft writings as if they were real are ridiculous. Americanists are insane. Why should "realistic" get in the way of fun?

I never modded before, but I will try to make a fan-fanfork in the next version of the mod, that will have the rust cultists exactly as they were before.

Do you guys want me to post it here when that happens?

>>16668910

Please do, them, the americanists and the pirates are my go-to factions in that mod.

>>16668910

>Americanists are insane. Why should "realistic" get in the way of fun?

The other religions all seemed pretty original and had at some logical connections to the modern day. I wouldn't care about a few Warhammer references but making them a central part of the religion always felt "off" to.

>>16668932

Not even central, they also took from roman mythology and industrial history, such as praising henry ford as a prophet.

>>16668900

https://files.catbox.moe/z1a6cx.zip

Extract to gfs/FX

>>16669931

gfx/FX I mean

>>16669931

Is there something like this but for Vicky 2?

>>16668936

Maybe it stood out more because I already know Mechanicus lore. I saw the "Omnissiah" mentions and thought immediately thought it was a bit lame. Most of the religions in AtE are funny in a tongue-in-cheek way.

I tried out Elder Kings and it's really damn good. Kind of amazing what you can do with CK2.

>>16670081

https://files.catbox.moe/qgltwr.7z

This makes some difference but it was never enough to make the game playable on my machine, although some of that may be due to wine.

EU4 is worse than EU3.

>>16671489

yes

>>16671489

>>16671641

Absolutely.

>>16671489

The insane exclave border gore that AI tends to create in EU3 is one big turnoff though, not that EU4 blobbing is much better.

Are they ever going to fix core mechanics in ck2 or is it too much to ask the AI to learn how to marry or to actually defend themselves? Because I am tired of watch dukes and kings marrying random counts fourth daughters who are twenty years older and then deciding to park 25k Troops in a random province while all their holdings are sieged

>>16667261

There's an in-game conspiracy theory that the Swiss (((bankers))) deliberately undermined the German economy in the post-war years.

It's discovered to be completely true in IIRC Bormann and Goering's paths

As for Goering being a warmonger, the devs actually had to backpedal and clarify that he's being kept in a gilded cage by Schorner/other hardline militarists, and has very little control over Germany if he wins.

Then Bormann got rewritten from 'blithering idiot who dooms Germany to stagnancy and collapse' to 'Brilliant but oxheaded/reform-averse and can handily win the Cold War if he plays the right cards'.

The 'Burgundian System' types (Heydrich, Josias, Himmler, etc.) are still goofy supervillains and the devs are exactly what you'd expect (Lead dev for Iberia is a gay anarchist, but I repeat myself), but they've dialed back the permeating aura of stupidity somewhat. Why do so many of these types flock to HOI4 nodding, anyway?

>>16667178

>Speer

The funny thing is their fanbase has constant conniptions over Speer. Even though his hard reform path guarantees Germany decays into bog standard libdem republic, it's still horrible because how dare he 'legitimize' Nazism by refusing to kill millions of his own people like the Commie path. It comes off as a bizarre mirror version of /pol/, but they're agitating constantly for exterminating fictional people for fictional crimes.

Oh and Spain has Catholic ISIS that may or may not be Opus Dei, because ???

can anybody post anon's edits of hfm v1.43 or whatever version existed before it went into beta?

also would it be hard to integrate other mods into it or mod it myself?

>>16676738

>flock to HOI4 nodding

Because

>it's the easiest HoI to get in to

opens the floodgates to low IQ retards

>its the most recent HoI

causes a similar effect as the above

3, its the easiest to mod I think

so anyone with enough time on their hands can make their own shitshow

I know it's not really gsg, but what's the best Total War? I've played them all up to Rome II and the one I really can only go back to is Shogun II. I know everyone likes to brown nose Medieval II, but I can't stand the Campaigns of that, and the control is too fucked. Shogun II is really the only one that really has everything just right, but I was wondering if any later ones were worth playing.

>>16677971

>the controls are fucked

You know you can change the keyboard setting right? Switch it to FPS controls, it's much better. As for the others I can only seriously recommend Warhammer, and that's only if you're a fan of the setting

>>16677971

Download the Stainless Steel Historical Improvement Project mod for Medieval 2. Can also get the Third Age: Total War mod (LotR), as well as Europa Barbarorum II. You can have all three mods installed so no need to pick only one (though obviously only running one at a time).

If you were trying to play vanilla, no wonder you had a bad time.

>>16678039

>>16678032

Thanks guys. I'll download those mods and fix the controls.

I know it's not it's main attraction, but the grand strategy portions of those games, the campaigns, are really the reason I play them.

I really enjoyed Empire/Napolean, but those were really just good enough for the one playthrough of the campaign. These mods fix the campaign in M2, then?

I don't know anything about the non-40k Warhammer setting, but I do like fantasy stuff, so if I were to get one of those, would it be Warhammer II?

Was Atilla shit? Has anyone played Three Kingdoms yet?

>>16678079

If the campaign itself is the main reason you're playing it, then maybe try EU4 or EU3 (I prefer 4 in spite of the shitty mana system and 'shattered retreats' bullshit, but some prefer 3). The campaign AI in Medieval 2 is horrid, even with mods; allies will betray you in a heartbeat, keeping up reputation is almost impossible, etc. It's still easily winnable as long as you're good at fighting battles, but the AI's alliance systems are crap.

>>16678086

I hate EU4 and I'm bored of EU3 and most other gsg. It's why I'm asking about Total War. Shogun II has the best campaign I've seen from them and I wanted to know if any of the later ones were as good.

>>16678079

Yeah, get a pirate of WaWa2 with all the dlc and such so you can play the mortal empires campaign (that's the one that combines the campaign maps) but be prepared; it's not very well optimized and you'll have to suffer through some long loading times and end turns though that's a little unavoidable since it's two game's worth of factions that the game has to go through

>attila

I couldn't get in to it, I'll play it again when the campaign mode for the medieval mod is complete but the vanilla campaign mode annoyed me since managing public order in the mod was like trying to run a country where every city is detroit and the Hun's and their immortality bullshit can go fuck themselves

>has anyone played three kingdoms

Yes, and I would honestly have recommended it but CA has shown how cucked they've become by clamping down on sexy portrait mods the only thing the chinese are good for

>>16678102

That being said, if there's a crack available for Three Dongs I'd say go ahead, the diplomacy is actually pretty good and the battles are the closest we've gotten to Med 2's since they switched to Warscape Engine

>>16676738

The real pity is that they didn't go full-in with Himmler being a super-villain. It would be actually fun to play as Germany and come up with dastardly super-villain plots for world conquest, but since the devs being leftist fags it's only natural they are incapable of making fun things.

So would fields of glory: empire count as grand strategy?

Because what ive seen thus far make it a better grand strategy than all paradox games since EU4.

>>16681381

What the fuck is that thing supposed to be

>>16681381

They went with the political satire caricature artstyle you so often see in newspapers it seems.

>>16681381

They continued what they did with Civilization Revolution which was a console exclusive. Except now it's for fucking tablets so it's even uglier and shittier.

>>16681387

>no compromise

Hilarious marketing gimmick. We made the PC version complete trash so soccer moms could play on the go without feeling like they're missing out.

>>16681381

The art style for the governors doesn't even line up with the art direction for the leaders. It's fucking shit but that's Firaxis for you.

>>16662308

>-Mecklenburg and Lorraine stop spamming merchants at the Centres of Trade where you are trying to maintain a monopoly.

Just tell them (and all of your other vassals) to transfer trade power to you after you revoke the Privilegia. It's not like they can do anything about it even if they become disloyal.

>>16668750

What's the historical reason behind Oman owning half of Persia's southern coast?

>>16681955

How are dem pops?

>>16682157

Qajars 'lent' most of Persia's coast to the Omanis in order to pay for their frivolous excesses and the Omanis owned most of its coastline for about 50 years or so. They also let the Anglos take over Bushire port and allowed some Sheikhs from Bahrain to own land on their coasts as well.

>>16682620

Sorry not Bahrain, one of the Trucial States

I haven't played Vicky 2 in well over a year, how has Anon's HFM Edits evolved so far? Is it an uncucked version of HPM that allows fun yet is historically accurate at the same time? I used to play Blood and Iron but that one hasn't gotten an update since August 2018.

>>16682740

Too much bloat. You are better off with BAI, the new update is gonna be out soon anyway.

>>16682770

BAI is shit lmayo

>>16683347

Pretty words and dank memes don't make BAI a nonshit mod tho

>>16683433

Ok BAIshill, go back shilling your bland shitmod on cuckchan's /gsg/ and /r/paradoxplaza while I make the ultimate mod lifeform

>>16682740

Just use the latest HPM update. HFM, like the BAI shill said, is a bloated mess and BAI doesn’t offer the things that most people look for in a mod (more flavour events, new tags, decision, etc…) as well as the other 2. Supposedly it has a better economy, but from my experience it is just as shit as HPM/HFM, but in different ways.

>>16667257

Would you be able to provide some sources for this that I could use and not be instantly banned on, say, alternatehistory.com?

>>16683229

>it's shit i say so

>>16683395

>lol it's shit my word is law

>>16683449

>ha ha i am god ur shit i win

You're really selling your mod well.

>>16682770

> the new update

Where do you find these things?

>>16683532

The modder commented recently on the download page.

>>16683528

BAI's not shit by any means, it's got some good features I could totally plagiarize like rebel funding, stormtroopers and uboats, it's just that it doesn't add nearly enough for my tastes, I want to emulate history as plausibly as the game allows me, and if it means I gotta add some obscure country/culture/province in the middle of nowhere, then I'm gonna do it, simply because I find it fascinating.

Also I don't care if anyone plays with my mod or not, I'm not here to sell a product or anything, I'm not earning money for this hobby and I sure as hell don't care about popularity, else I wouldn't be using the name 'Anon' for all my mods instead of what I usually go on about the net ensuing on an internet popularity contest with the other modders over who's earning more shekels on patreon. I simply chose to share the stuff I'm making because I know there's people out here on /v/ with similar tastes/autism as me; I could've kept the stuff I make for myself but I chose to share them instead, like weebs did in the 90's with their nonprofit fansub VHS tapes. I want to keep that spirit alive.

If selling my mods is what I wanted, I would've actually bought the game and shilled my stuff on cuckchan, paradox forums and reddit as well for a maximum ego boost.

>>16683578

I actually think your mod is fun if I wanna get an in depth playthrough with something like Venezuela, but I wouldn't really recommend it as a default mod. Gotta learn how to improve your banter skills tho m8 lol

>>16683600

>Gotta learn how to improve your banter skills tho m8 lol

Ok retard

So I want to reform Hephthalite and it's being challenging in CK2, what should be my first moves as Mohadavasaka count? Can I make them nomadic as they were attested?

>>16683650

It's possible with some fuckery but generally not intended to go from feudal back to nomadic.

>>16684684

It's it as easy as giving your son a nomadic title? That works to go to tribal (has to be same or higher tier but all nomads are emperor).

Is it possible to learn CK2 by playing After the End?

I never bothered with the base game because I couldn't care less about the time period, but that mod looks so much fun.

>>16683490

>BAI doesn’t offer the things that most people look for in a mod (more flavour events, new tags, decision, etc…)

Huh? B&I has waaaay more flavor and formable tags than HPM.

>>16681835

It was supposed to, but the backlash to the leaders was so severe they had to remake them a couple of months before release, as I recall. Game's still shit tho.

>>16685648

Pretty much any mod is going to involve lots of the base mechanics with additional stuff to do.

>>16683578

I appreciate your map edits and making the damn thing be more than just “oh look all the divisions are identical to OTL so that someone who wants to make a modern day mod has zero work to do ha ha what is accuracy,” but the format itself is the problem, I think. I wrote up a long thing years ago about how what we need is a vector GSG with a bunch of layers (for political divisions, for terrain shapes, for resources–INDIVIDUAL resources so that the bubbles overlap–for religions, for cultures, for pops, etc.). Then the computer does some multi-variable calculus to add up these overlapping layers and assign a desirability score to any given point on the map. That’s the metric by which an NPC nation bases its expansion desires, etc. As for the user, get this–YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DRAW YOUR OWN BORDERS. Settling a war could be handled with “warscore” like it always has been. You would draw a line on the map (the game would let you snap to rivers, mountain ranges, lat/lon, or let you draw your own), and the defeated enemy would say yes or no based on the desirability (importance) of the land and resources (and pops) located within the area you drew. No more hideous blobs. Beautiful nations with hand-drawn borders, because you’re drawing it as a vector line. But you would also be managing your domestic affairs this way. Take Victoria II. You have some new land, and it’s a territory. Your primary pops start moving to the region and want to become a state. So you have to draw the new state borders. A big state will make them happy (a lot of resources), but they will take a big organization penalty and all your other states might be mad. A small state MIGHT make them mad, but could also make all your other states mad, because you’d be packing your legislature with extra votes using a lot of small states… UNLESS you also changed the law to make that part of your legislature less important. A small state likely wouldn’t have the resources needed to feed itself or to manage its own industries. It would stagnate and become a financial drain on your nation.

SEE HOW MUCH FUCKING BETTER THINGS COULD BE WITHOUT A PRE-SET BITMAP WORLD?

>>16681381

Civ VI is so fucking shit.

>>16668910

>Gaians are a feminist utopia that would never happen in reality.

This always bothered me because the PNW is actually pretty conservative outside of Portland, Eugene, and Seattle. The Gaian shit wouldn't exist past the cascade mountains.

>>16683650

Anybody got any advice? I keep getting curbstomped by fucking muslims

>>16685721

I remember your post. It was only a couple of months ago, and the main flaw in it was pointed out immediately. It would take unbelievable amounts of processing power.

Has anyone tried Field of Glory : Empires to date? Looks like stepped up AGEOD, and the interaction with FoG2 looks interesting in theory. After the utter disappointment that was Imperator, I wonder if that game would satisfy my Roman fix.

>>16685721

>>16688699

It could work if instead of having tons of tiny cells that all contain their own pop, RGO, etc info, you treat pops, RGO regions, etc as their own separate objects that encompass ranges of coordinates. So all the coal in the Rhine-Ruhr area, for example, could be treated as one object, and then it contains the coordinates that it's present in. A state that controls 35% of those coordinates gets 35% of the coal available from that RGO overall. No weighting, mind you, but you could sort of simulate that by adding additional "rich areas" of RGO or farmland that overlap with common areas, if you find the performance tradeoff worthwhile (and it may be).

You lose a bit of the detailed autism-simulation in Paradox-style games ie this province has exactly this size RGO with exactly this size workers, but you gain in other areas like dynamic borders. Now I'm not a fan of some of the micro-management in a Paradox-style game and would prefer government & geopolitics simulation, so I'd find this more appealing, personally.

For pops I'd say that the lower classes would be simulated in less detail so for example all farmers of a given regional culture, one pop. Then middle classes get separate pops per city. And then the upper classes get many pops to simulate various powerful noble factions and so on, with the elite being represented as minor characters. This way you cut down on a whole lot of pop simulation that has no real effect on the game and just adds workload, and can free attention and resources to dealing with and simulating the more powerful elite and their interaction with the player. Not sure how you'd handle pop density for the "mass pops" but there's probably some sort of workaround.

Move away from cells/provinces and over to coordinates. Army movement would need redesigning (or it could operate on a larger fixed grid) but as far as world simulation goes I think coordinates would work a lot better.

French tanks are best

>>16689897

BANG

>>16689327

>etc as their own separate objects that encompass ranges of coordinates

Yeah, that's the part that kills the whole idea with no survivors. Computing how much of an area a state controls and how much shit it gives him could be done (at the cost of massive set-up cost) but the moment we start talking actually changing the borders is when it all goes to shit. The AI would be unable to handle it, every little change to borders would require expensive recomputing for affected countries, and let's not even talk about real numbers shittery stemming from this. Furthermore, your proposed changes would actually make the game itself shittier since you'd essentially block most of the other mechanics. Each addition to the map, such as putting in population density overlays or similar, owuld just further fuck the already abhorrent performance. Your game would need to be casual as fuck

>>16690034

>Computing how much of an area a state controls and how much shit it gives him could be done (at the cost of massive set-up cost) but the moment we start talking actually changing the borders is when it all goes to shit. The AI would be unable to handle it, every little change to borders would require expensive recomputing for affected countries, and let's not even talk about real numbers shittery stemming from this.

This is not something you'd need to calculate constantly in real-time, however, only when introducing a change of borders. In all other situations you'd have improved performance because you're consolidating resources and populations, so the computer has to do far fewer operations per tick. Instead of calculating the resources produced from five coal provinces in a state each with their own set of Labourer pops you're calculating the resources produced from a single owned coal object by a single labourer pop (or multiples if there are more than one culture in the area - but a Paradox game would have to deal with that too). That means less workload on the computer. Actual changes in "which country / state gets which share of the resource or pops" can be handled when borders are drawn, after that the value (ie how much coal country A is getting as an absolute value based on percentage of controlled coordinates vs total in the coal object) is fixed until there's another change in bordes and it does not need to be recalculated until that time.

Victoria 2's subdivision of pops is well known as being Paradox's own reason for things like auto-assimilation of very small pops and automatic Craftsmen culture assimilation, and that gives us an insight into where the performance bottleneck is: it's in failure to consolidate things like pops and RGOs, which is forced on them by the province structure that their games are designed around.

>Furthermore, your proposed changes would actually make the game itself shittier since you'd essentially block most of the other mechanics.

If you're trying to copy a Paradox game as closely as possible, yeah. But why would you do that if starting from the ground up? Learn from Paradox, sure, they've done a lot in the genre and you should learn from their experience. But they've also made a lot of bad design decisions, or decisions that weren't bad but weren't the best option in hindsight but can't be changed at this point.

> Each addition to the map, such as putting in population density overlays or similar, owuld just further fuck the already abhorrent performance.

You'd already be working with much better performance than a Paradox game by moving away from province container model.

>>16690080

>This is not something you'd need to calculate constantly in real-time, however, only when introducing a change of borders.

But a change of borders is something that happens near constantly in a game like EU4 or CK2.

>In all other situations you'd have improved performance because you're consolidating resources and populations

Consolidating resources and populations is another word for casualising. Instead of tracking development over different areas of the country (something provinces do), you'd be tracking it just for the country as a whole. That's significantly less simulationist. For example, population growth in some outlying backwater should be smaller than in your capital, something consolidation of it all does not allow.

>Instead of calculating the resources produced from five coal provinces in a state each with their own set of Labourer pops you're calculating the resources produced from a single owned coal object by a single labourer pop

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It's literally casualization.

>>16690130

>But a change of borders is something that happens near constantly in a game like EU4 or CK2.

It really doesn't.

>Consolidating resources and populations is another word for casualising.

No, it isn't. The game would actually be less casual because you'd have finer control over where resources are actually located, without a meaningless distinguishment of coal produced in province A or province B that are both part of the same state anyways and which the player will just be carpet-upgrading with railroads.

>For example, population growth in some outlying backwater should be smaller than in your capital, something consolidation of it all does not allow.

Cities are population sinks. Most base population growth happens in agricultural areas, with excess offspring travelling to urban areas for labour. So a more accurate way to model this is for rural populations to grow faster, but to migrate into cities where they take on work as craftsmen or factory workers. It's kind of silly to argue about this when comparing to Paradox titles though, because Paradox has never even approached realistic pop growth mechanics.

>Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It's literally casualization.

Not compared to having each province produce a single resource, which is what Paradox's province-based structure forces them into (because their games would choke up and run at a slideshow pace if they had to actually model all the goods produced in a given region instead of dumbing it down into HURR GRAIN HERE NOTHING ELSE).

>>16690314

Doch nein, nein, nein!

Sein Vaterland muss große҉r sein

>>16688699

I genuinely don’t understand why. Explain. The only real processing drag in the area you describe would be during wartime where one nation has “occupied” a part of another, and thus receives its resources (call it a large fractional amount of the resources due to revolts in the occupied area). That’s when border splines are moving quite rapidly and have to be recalculated. Otherwise they’re not moving at all. Once the calculations are made, the only numbers that would be changing are the POP numbers and the number of a given religion/culture (which would also mean the bubbles are pushed around).

>>16690346

How about when AI needs to calculate whether to attack or not and is comparing the potential gains versus miltary power of the enemy?

This idea sounds great if I'm being honest but also impossible. The sheer amount of jank produced by it due to movement lines being draw through the terrain, AI calculating the worth of something it wants to grab and the eventual bordergore resulting from strange resource overlaps. Unless you want to kneecap the AI and order it to just make the pretty borders, bordergore will still happen.

>>16690435

>How about when AI needs to calculate whether to attack or not and is comparing the potential gains versus miltary power of the enemy?

Paradox AI doesn't look at potential gains when deciding whether to attack or not (it compares relative power) so I don't see why you're acting as though that's a requirement.

>>16690482

Didn't actually know that, but that would explain some of the more retarded wars over shithole provinces I've seen. Does the AI even consider provinces warscores during the war then? Because that would explain a lot as well.

I assume the occupation area would be dynamic as well, with moving armies having some kind of field of influence that takes areas over, and the armys movement being slowed down by fortifications and fields of influence causing battles and bringing movement to near standstill? Would you consider at least improving the AIs priorization of where to move and when with that complex a system, and how much resources do you think it would take. We are already in land of requiring very powerful computers, so keeping Paradox AI as a baseline would make it even more retarded than usual.

>>16690557

I think warfare implementation would be more dependent on time period so I don't really have an answer to that, unfortunately. An Antiquity setting would have campaigning and fewer direct engagements. A Great War setting would have clear front lines with forces guarding every inch. It really depends on time period and desired style of war.

>>16691879

>cuck reich

>chad

>>16691911

Much better

>>16690306

Ahem.

>>16692937

>>>/cuckchan/

>>16648088

Are there any good Ottoman flavor mods for eu4? I'm disappointed in the lack of depth afforded to them given that they were the world's greatest superpower at the time.

>>16696026

You can't make bait that low-effort, you need to flesh it out more, make it more believable.

>>16696044

If you have something dear online, you back it up.

>>16696081

Because for all the flaws of PDX games, this one is probably even jankier?

>>16696044

Dr. Ludwig is a faggot anyway.

>NO NATIONALISM GUYS PLZ

>THIS IS TOTALLY NOT POLITICAL

<Gets deleted anyway

APPEASEMENT DOESN'T WORK

>>16696095

Haven't been playing for long, but so far it's breddy gud. Miles ahead of Imperator in any case.

>more detailed and much more complex battles (with possiblity of fighting them yourself if you have fields of glory 2, but having the AI handle it is the default approach)

>no mana

>lots of buildings and economy shit, significantly more complex than in parajew games

>every single nation has its custom flavour (haven't played long enough to properly verify it, but it does seem that way so far)

>more decisions than imperator (or EU4, for that matter), with proper flavour and multiple choices

>party popularity, decadence mechanics, population reacting to victories and defeats etc.

<very simplified diplomacy

<turn based

<autistic with army movement

That's my current impression with it so far, at least. Still, I can already say with total confidence that it's much better than Imperator (not that that's particularly hard to be)

>>16696081

wat vidya

>>16696141

Field of Glory: Empires

>>16696081

>grand strategy games game

It is absolute shit.

>>16696135

>Miles ahead of Imperator in any case.

Oh shit. No wonder it looked different. What is it? Actually after a small search I guess it is Field of Glory: Empires. A new game by Ageod. I wanted to try their Rome game before, but never really did. It was so lanky it didn't even install properly or something, not sure any more. Seems to be a supposed grand strategy with total war elements? Though from the reviews someone claimed it having worse policy than a Civilization game.

>>16696166

>It was so lanky it didn't even install properly or something, not sure any more.

Yeah, I didn't like previous AGEOD games either. They were downright user hostile and buggy as fuck. This one seems remarkably stable and even has a non-shit UI.

>Seems to be a supposed grand strategy with total war elements?

Essentially, every time you go into battle, you can direcly see how it went down, with battle phases, units attacking each other, etc. Dice rolls are used a lot, but unlike EU, different dice with different buffs and penalties are rolled for every single unit rather than for the army as a whole. Army composition, unit tiredness, experience, terrain, etc all play a major role, as well as shit like battle width, fortifications and so on. There is also a way to control the battle directly, but it's more of a bonus on top – if you own Field of Glory 2, you can export the current battle to that game, fight the battle in Fields of Glory 2, and then export it back to Fields of Glory: Empires.

>Though from the reviews someone claimed it having worse policy than a Civilization game.

Haven't played a Civ game since Civ4, so I can't really comment on that.

>>16696081

I read that the multiplayer on this game is done such that all the turns happen simultaneously, so that each player could do their moves on their own time then upload the file to process their turn to whoever the host is (if I remember correctly, details might be off but it works in that basic manner).

This could be potentially perfect for /gsg/ MP sessions since the time we tried to do the HoI3 WWI mod the biggest obstacle was getting schedules to align. With this turn system an MP session could work pretty smoothly where each player would just have to have their turn done every few days/week or so.

>>16696081

It seems pretty nice with its pop system and cultures, and no mana.

>>16696516

SP uses simultaneous turns too

>>16696135

Liking this quite a bit so far. AI is really aggressive even on low difficulty – I'm basically never at peace, the AI loves to dogpile even if it cannot beat you on its own. The decadence mechanic then comes in, since you get more decadence the more territories you have, and especially from new, unpacified conquests, meaning I am getting bigger and it's killing me in the long term.

>>16696044

Check altcensored.com, bitchute.com, and of course archive.org. Out of those three, you can find stuff military marches and various NS stuff that jewtube deleted almost always.

Sage for doublepost, but:

>download Field of Glory: Empires

>start it up

>PC immediately begins to overheat 10-15C above normal under-load temp

>exit, restart, turn off shadows, turn off clouds, turn down graphic detail

>no temp change

Welp.

I have never played EU4 should I even bother? Do I need all expansions? I'm so lazy I don't want to make an account on cs.rin

>>16697614

How about you kill yourself? One last push and you won't have to do anything else ever again.

>>16697634

One day.

>>16697869

Don´t do it anon your digits means you will get good sexsomeday

my friend suggested a mod, "Red world", for hoi4, which is supposdely kek-tier, however, some of you may not be using steam, so here's a link http://workshop.abcvg.info/archive/394360/925478904.zip

going to try it later this week, hope its good

>>16696081

How do you move slaves around or release them? My capital is full of them while my other proviences only have a few.

>>16698150

You need to go back.

>>16698296

Socialists ruining everything for everyone, news at 11

>>16698297

>richfags use slave instead of their fellow citizens for work

>buy up public land

>buy up the land of impoverished farmers, most of whom were bankrupted while out on campaign for Rome

>"It's the socialists fault!"

>>16698367

>starting area is chock-full of orcs using humans for forced labor

>cucked leftists gets triggered when you return the favor

>lives up to the "orcs are refugees" meme

Leftists are truly a walking parody.

>>16698344

I absolutely hate turn based games but i think I'm gonna give this one a try.

>>16698344

>slave revolts were common

Were they, though?

You only really have slave revolts when there is a sudden, massive influx of "newly made" slaves like that revolt in Sicily that Crassus put down, or after natural disasters like that Helot uprising in Sparta after an earthquake.

>>16698430

And that revolt in Sicily was only allowed to get so out of hand because nobody in Rome could be bothered to put it down. No glory or, more importantly, plunder to be had from slaughtering a bunch of slaves in rags.

Also, revolts weren't that big of a thing in Rome because, in general, slaves were not so brutally mistreated. It was considered extremely bad manners to kill your slaves without very good reason, and many slaves usually won their freedom eventually and became clients of their former master, now patron, or simply became ingrained members of the family and enjoyed a reasonably cushy existence.

>>16698304

>lol

Don't know what happened but I was playing a tribal horde and because I had no slave markets all of slaves I got from blobbing went to my capital. When my ruler died not only did some of the proviences I blobbed into flip back to a nation that didn't exist anymore, they owned my capital as well. Looking at the pops afterwards it seemed that the slaves joined the revolt and flipped it.

Decadence is already out of control for me though, it makes paradox blobbing impossible. How do you not have 8+ decadence before getting buildings that give you more?

>>16698456

Well dont fucking blob then, expand slowly, grow your populations and keep your decadence tokens in check.

>>16696222

>you can export the current battle to that game, fight the battle in Fields of Glory 2, and then export it back to Fields of Glory: Empires.

Sounds annoying as fuck

>>16698514

An average battle can take up to 2-3 hours, so I don't imagine most people will bother with the feature. The game could definitely use a more simplified battle feature.

>>16698514

As I said, it's mosre of a bonus. I don't bother with it, personally.

>>16698523

>The game could definitely use a more simplified battle feature.

But it literally has. It's the intended battle system. The manual battle thing is literally just a bonus tacked on top, it is something extra, it's not at the core design of the game

>>16698492

>After I defensively annexed him off the map

Yeah, you mustn't do that, or you'll expand way too fast. You need to camp at the border and just fend the nigger off until you're ready to expand or he peaces out. The one thing I really miss is the EU-like peace negotiations, where you don't automatically own everything you occupy and can thus defeat your enemy without annexing him

>>16696081

I'll never understand the obsession with 3D maps in grand strategy games. Most of the time it just looks fucking ugly compared to hand-drawn 2D map and it offers no advantage compared to 2D. Sprites are also much better than ugly 3D models that look like something from 2005.

I also have no idea what happened but FoG: Empires looks much worse then AGEOD's previous games. Alea Iacta Est and Revolution Under Siege had really nice colourful unit drawings, generals portraits and the game was much more prettier to look at. In Empires they made everything brown and dark.

>>16699434

that's what you get for blobbing too fast. Just station an army at the border and ignore the enemy unless he attacks, until you've managed your decadence enough

>get to empire tier

>thing nothing can stop me at this point

>suddenly learn Rome experiences periodic civil wars at empire stage and get my shit fucked from inside

fugg :DDDD

Alright, slaves are a fucking trojan horse. They give you unrest out the ass, too much of it to handle with buildings in bigger cities, which means you get civil war all the fucking time.

>>16700183

>save the US from the cancerous curse of democracy

>somehow a bad thing

Even a batshit insane emperor is preferable to an elected official.

>>16700186

>T. Nero

>>16700259

>built Rome into the marbled city we know it as today after the (((fire)))

>>16700183

Wat mod

>>16698304

In a left wing Socialist state, the workers are made into slaves for the Party, so it's fairly accurate.

>>16700382

>richfags import foreigners to do the work for less (or fucking nothing), putting their countrymen out of work

Dunno lad, sounds like jewish capitalism to me

>>16700382

>>16700732

>Jews on both sides have actually the same goals

Is this your first day here?

>>16700183

Emperor Norton was based as fuck

>>16700758

They're doing better than paracocks that's for sure, and these are all hacky-workaronds.

What I'm worried about is MEIUitis though, they've still yet to make up their kinds how (if at all) to balance civil war/great war 2 but here they are 7 years into a china "rework" and still finding time to squeeze in brand new mechanics, stinks of bloat IMO but if they pull it off good for them I guess.

Glad regardless the team (PBUH) finally made space for Islamic content, Jihad CB when?

>>16700758

It may look fun but if there's one thing I've learned after hours and hours of trying to play Total War Rome 2, it's that you really can't polish a turd.

>>16701942

Can you still snipe crete out of egypt with greece during their war wit hthe ottomans and french?

>>16701963

Yeah, Sinai and Eritrea as well.

>>16702024

Did you add any new blobs since last time you reported?

I dont recall there being so many different tags between persia and the otomas or that greenish stripe north of persia.

>>16701942

will I be able to create a levantine only state?

>>16700732

Sounds like communism and capitalism are both jewish ideas that fuck over the working class.

>>16702697

>Charlemagne start date

>What now?

Now you start at Old Gods or Iron Century if you want to be Slavic pagan

>>16702697

Reform your faith and create a gigantic pagan superstate while preparing for horsenigger invasions.

>>16702770

Sedentary subhuman detected

>>16702060

Yes. Added a bunch of subsidiary Persian states like the Mohammerah Emirate, Jelali & Zafaranlu Kurd Emirates (copied from HFM's 1.28 beta) made Manipur and Assam British vassals (Assam was completely annexed in 1838, Manipur in the 1890s) also added the Anazzah Sheikhdom in the Syrian desert and re-added Kuwait with its pre-Saudi war borders. The stuff north of Persia is the rump state of what's left of the Salor Turkmen, before they got annexed by Russia.

>>16702076

A Chaldean Christian state? I'll add 2 more tags one for Maronites and another for West Syriacs. They'll be fashioned as theocracies like I did for the Coptic Metropolitanate in Egypt and the Antiochene Greeks.

>>16702697

They just made your decision for you. Embrace the Pope in Rome like a good Christian.

I mean, historically speaking if Catholicism won out over Orthodoxy the pagans near Greece would have seen this as Catholics being stronger and therefore more "right" anyways.

Blood & Iron got an update. I'm eager to check things out. Is it even possible to do an event to automatically wipe other nations' cores in your land after x amount of time you've held it? Seems like it's not impossible, but after 9 years no one has done it…

>>16704751

I spent a whole hour trying to figure out what name should I use before naming them Chaldeans, because the name is inclusive for both (Assyrians and Syrian/Lebanese/Levantine Christians) as is Aramean.

How about renaming "Chaldeans" to "Syriac-Aramean" and renaming their "Syriac" religious branch to "Syro-Antiochian/West Syriac" AND also renaming the "Nestorian" religious branch most Assyrians are part of to "Syro-Oriental/East Syriac" and leaving Maronites as they are since they're pretty much their own thing.

It's kinda fucky but hopefully I think it'll clear up any misconceptions.

>>16705513

Not in the base game, but it's in every NNM based mod.

>>16704442

so how's the new update?

> Is it even possible to do an event to automatically wipe other nations' cores in your land after x amount of time you've held it? Seems like it's not impossible

you mean as a decision? because if I recall there's an event that lets you do it but it takes time, infamy and it almost never works

>>16702887

would it be possible to add a decision for russia or any other country to form those nations? it'd make sense for russia at least since they would try assert dominance on the middle east and help christians

>>16705138

Chaldean really doesn't fit right because it's only in reference to one church/one area of lower Mesopotamia, it's like calling Americans Virginians because that's where Washington came from.

Nestorian needs to go because it's an exonym, Maronites are Maronites and therefore pretty much Jews and can stay as they are yeah, West/East Syriac works best since otherwise you'd need 12 gorillion more religions to represent them all and east/west is complicated enough, and it neatly splits the two between whether or no they're filthy fucking heretics ala Council of Ephesus (because the only REAL schisms are pre-millennium as everything else is just ego shittery).

As far as cultures go it's either full autism (Maronites, East Syriacs, Assyrians, West Syriacs, Chaldeans, OTHER Chaldeans, Orthodox Syriacs, Catholic Syriacs) or reasonable contraction, I fucking hate -s but Syriac Aramean is accurate enough though I'd just go AA and call them Arameans since that's pretty much what they identify as (Syriac is a transliteration of Assyrian which is what the Greeks mistook Levantine christucks for way back when the Caliph expelled a whole bunch of them).

Assyrian for north Iraqfags/Aramean for everywhere else, just stick the dividing line vaguely where the old Roman-Persian frontier was and it's golden.

>>16705587

>>16705513

This, the problem is it requires a substantial cultural majority which doesn't work without either heavy-infamy wide scale genocide (locked until 1870) or province based precision genocide / migration that isn't supported in any mod or possibly the game's mechanics altogether, or getting lucky with craftsmen.

Then the event itself has a really long MTTH so it almost never happens especially since MTTH resets if you ever save and reload. And it still relies on you getting lucky with the assimilation events.

I had it happen against me once as Canada with one of the Cascadian provinces the USA held because it had almost no Anglo Canadian pops and massive Yankee immigration/assimilation, and I had it happen for me once as Germany against France on one of the German majority parts of Elsaß-Lothringen (after dozens of Germany playthroughs where it never happened at all). So it almost never shows up.

>>16705900

It works fine, the game takes place during the age of nationalism, core removal shouldn't be something easy to do. And it depends on more factors, for example if you have full citizenship you will never get those events.

>>16705930

>core removal shouldn't be something easy to do

It should be if you've gotten rid of the nation's pops, but Victoria 2 doesn't have good genocide mechanics unlike say EU4 where you can specifically get rid of minorities on a province by province basis and settle accepted pops in their place.

Where are the "This Day in History" facts sourced from the OP uses?

>>16707247

If I wanted to add events to that, got any clue how I would?

Interested in adding events from other parts of the world beyond europe and east asia; like in ancient latin america, south asia, etc.

>>16707395

You'd need a wikipedia account it seems.

I switched to linux mint and I was wondering if there is a linux equivalent to creamapi. I am very, very new to linux pls no bully.

>>16708494

Just use Wine. Actually use Wine for the games too, as Paradox ports are terrible.

Playing Vicky II w/ Anon's Edits, is there any way to turn a state into a protectorate or colony?

I'm playing as Greece Not a Byzaboo, just an Ancient Greekaboo and somehow a revolt in Egypt led to the Alexandrian Republic becoming independent in about 1856. They instantly petition me for annexation, but they're added as a state so I'm getting fuckloads of immigration to my beautiful Greece from Egypt. I don't really want to release them as a puppet because there seem to be a few decisions for Greece if they own Alexandria that I'd lose access to.

is the newest dlc for CK2 worth finding a pirate? I haven't figured out how to mount individual dlcs to my pirated 2.8.0 I want to play that Iron Age mod I saw in one of these threads but not sure if it's worth the trouble

>>16711617

EU4 only fucks up when I'm running it full screen; it runs completely fine in a window.

I do have wine and I think i have it running correctly, but the linux port doesn't seem that bad. I only wish there was more support.

>>16713406

Doesn't it just turn Alexandria and Cairo into states? Also there's lots of Greeks there, they probably got promoted into bureaucrats.

I forgot how the event even works.

>>16713976

It is not a mod, its a new starting date.

>>16722401

That was me, sorry for getting your hopes up anon. It's Iron Century for the start date, not Iron Age and yeah I was playing the house of Makedon

>>16722421

well at least now I don't have to waste my time trying to figure out how to pirate a dlc into my already pirated 2.8.0, or would you recommend it?

>>16722440

It's a pretty good start imo. Abbasids are still kicking and independent but not nearly as strong, the HRE isnt formed yet but Central/West Europe arent Karolingian blobs, the Byzantines arent quite as strong as they are in Old Gods start and have the Bulgarian Empire to contend with early game that they cant just holy war away, paganism still abounds but with some rulers in the north starting Christian adding something of an interesting opportunity up there. The only glaring downside about the start is the strength of the Umayyads. They blob harder than ever in my experience in the Iron Century start.

Overall a fun start that has some of the Old Gods/Charlemagne options like pagans with some of the more balanced political landscape aspect like 1066 or later. I'd recommend it if its not too much trouble to pirate

>>16722478

How did you piss off the Holy See so much? Even when I was found out murdering three of my nephews one after the other he didn't give enough of a shit to excommunicate me.

>>16722492

Thats literally the only bad thing my character has done, and it only happened once and by accident, i dont understand why they keep excomulgating me but now i understand charles the 5th.

>>16722516

>>16722478

Does the AI actually use the new Papal interactions? I've seen a few excommunicates before, but generally assumed it was a player only feature and that AI excommunication was event-driven. The AI certainly doesn't use the ridiculous new claim requests, much less act on them, and I've never seen Papal-sanctioned invasions happen.

>>16722543

Ive seen atleast 2 papal-sanctioned invasions in a single game by now, once with east francia attacking aquitane (wich i helped defend with my first character), and the with the same king invading my grandson (fucking ingrate).

>>16722478

You need to figure out why the AI was excommunicating you before and fix that before buying repentance, otherwise it will just happen again.

You probably have shitty traits or something (maybe some really pious dude somewhere has a grudge for you). You can put your chancellor or chaplain on Rome to raise the pope's opinion of you, that should avoid it unless you are basically Satan.

>Not being autocephalous in order to avoid papal kikery

Anyone know how the French Revolution events in HFM w/ Anon's edits works? I can't get it to trigger for some reason.

>>16733608

I've never messed with anything related to that so they should.

>>16733688

Do you know the exact triggers off the top of your head? Do you need a certain amount of militancy or is it scripted to trigger no matter what?

>>16733692

I seriously have no idea, all the HFM France stuff comes from the Francemod, the only thing I ever added to the place was Arpitan and Occitan cores for an eventual partition of France after a great war.

>>16725249

I would try the game if it had at least a few nice icons.

How are you supposed to balance the mana in Eu4 between tech and ideas? I've only played 2 games and Castille was way ahead of me in tech and ideas, I have no clue how they afforded 2 complete idea trees and still remain ahead in tech. What the fuck is this garbage system? Total turn off.

>>16734447

Don't spend mana on events unless you REALLY have to, and always take techs until you're ahead of time, only then do you take ideas.

Also pray to the RNGods for a good King, or just play a Republic and drown in mana.

>>16722495

>I accidentally had an orgy with four other women, just once

What happens if you just assassinate your illegitimate heirs? Without them to whine about their claims to the throne, will a new pope even care?

>>16734835

perfidious albion strikes once again

>>16734873

Oh! I just remembered that this is the game I'm playing where I do nothing but have babies, marry them off, and then assassinate the families into which I marry for the sole purpose of directly or dynastically owning the map. I wanted to see if it was possible before the end of the game. I take zero foreign diplomatic actions except marriages and defensive pacts (meaning no wartime aggression for land). It's not meant to be realistic.

Incidentally, does anyone know where the file that governs your council positions' actions is? I want to get rid of the cooldown period for religious conversion, since my patriarch is almost always converting successfully long before that time.

>>16702521

third positionism is literally a Catholic idea. not a bad idea, but yeah the church started that.

>>16722401

I'm playing as the Basque state what should I expect?