ae595c No.16591201
Can someone explain why people hate the epic store so badly?
I've been under a rock and don't see what all the moaning is about. I only use unreal for working on my own game, so I'm totally lost.
427950 No.16591214
They don't give a fuck about the consumer. Their business strategy is to court publishers with cash for exclusivity to the direct detriment of the consumer. Exclusivity deals are always bad for the consumer and that's their #1 business strategy.
Also it's 40% owned by shady chinks.
026961 No.16591219
If you're actually oblivious:
> Owned by Tencent (Asian Jews)
> DRM-controlled software
> Bans left and right of their asses
> Clunky client
> Same as Steam, games are not yours
(I though you needed an internet connection?)
> Shit games
> Bribing devs to bring their games exclusively to their storefront
I am missing a shit ton, so if anyone could add?
eb2be6 No.16591230
It makes Shenmue III backers cry like anime fans on prom night.
7fd474 No.16591244
>>16591201
It's another walled garden, which means it's not in the consumer's best interest. If you want to see what a proper steam competitor looks like, see GoG.
18e27e No.16591252
My main issue is the connection to Tencent and the Chinese government. Additionally Epic shit all over the PC with Gears of War during the Xbox 360 days, and now suddenly they wanna get in the good graces of PC gamers? What a crock of shit. Additionally the client itself is a piece of ass and offers no reason to use it other than exclusive content like Fortnite and Metro Exodus. Additionally they fucked over Linux.
18e27e No.16591257
>>16591219
You missed how they're a roadblock to Linux adoption.
b8f0b3 No.16591263
>>16591219
>I am missing a shit ton, so if anyone could add?
Let's also not forget:
>creating an account doesn't follow-up with a validation E-mail, you can literally use any E-mail address
>completely insecure payment system
>they're too incompetent to implement a shopping cart
>no reviews
>no forums
Remember Steam back in 2004? It's basically that. They have absolutely no intent to compete, so they're trying to use Chink tactics and brute-force their way into the market and forcibly buy customers, instead of winning them over with quality.
ae595c No.16591267
>>16591219
<Tencent.
I knew I was slow, but shit. Now I know where to start looking.
dc78fd No.16591271
>>16591201
>if your game is too offensive you cannot publish it
>doesn't fix anything or add anything to the table
212ed2 No.16591280
Its steam, but even worse, because if they do make it big and become steams rival they could censor alot of games with their chink laws, bye bye mr bones
a7802e No.16591282
>>16591201
because timmy tencent is a sleazy lying fuck that puts randy pitchford to shame. not to mention employing people like that steamspy slavshit.
>>16591263
> too incompetent to implement a shopping cart
fun fact, the marketplace has one. so they too incompetent to even copy that.
a7802e No.16591310
>>16591230
>Shenmue III
see pic
>>16591257
>You missed how they're a roadblock to Linux adoption.
see pic
8245a2 No.16591326
>>16591282
never trust beady eyed jews
269d05 No.16591335
>>16591201
Exclusivity shittery with a fucking barely-functional storefront, and a chinese botnet.
And yet people still defend it as a steam competitor, even though forcing you to pay your way into a bunch of walled gardens for access to the full selection of goods on offer is a textbook example of oligopoly, which is just monopoly with extra steps for he customer.
d3f50c No.16591338
This site layout is also a complete mess. Still don't think they have tags for games either.
53dc67 No.16591348
>>16591338
never getting my hopes again
0220fd No.16591356
269d05 No.16591357
>>16591348
The tag's cheese_grater you incompetent fucknugget, have you literally never used a booru before?
212ed2 No.16591382
>>16591310
why do bugmen hate lelnux?
f77155 No.16591391
money hatting think conglomerate that's simply out there to make a buck.
d3f50c No.16591399
>>16591382
They hate options and alternatives in general really.
3acb09 No.16591403
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 劉曉波动态网自由门
2be16b No.16591404
>>16591255
Wasn't all that shit typical of any software with an internet connection?
c74d19 No.16591472
>>16591255
To add to pic related, the unreal engine tracks you. Don't use it!
>>16591403
Thank you for the bug spray.
>>16591404
No.
e2f2d6 No.16591483
>why people hate the epic store so badly?
It's chinese, and therefore you should hate it out of principle.
Steam sucks ass too.
a7802e No.16591485
>>16591472
>the unreal engine tracks you
source?
548242 No.16591492
>>16591483
Well yes, Steam is bad and Valve is incompetent as all hell. That said they're still not a company that supports an oppressive communist regime that's hell bent on destroying modern societal values. It's basically the same as buying goods from 1930's Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.
548242 No.16591493
>>16591472
By (You), do you mean gamers or developers.
269d05 No.16591497
>>16591492
>Well yes, Steam is bad and Valve is incompetent as all hell
And yet they've still managed to put together a digital storefront with enough quality that the only other such service that isn't trying to pull ahead via exclusivity shittery is GoG.
b8f0b3 No.16591510
>>16591498
Nice whataboutism, chink.
774410 No.16591511
>>16591492
>It's basically the same as buying goods from 1930's Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.
1930's Germany and the Soviet Union were two very, VERY, different places.
c74d19 No.16591512
>>16591338
It looks like a shitty blog, pathetic.
c74d19 No.16591520
>>16591485
>>16591493
Look at the picture, it says tracking.unrealengine.com. It probably comes with the launcher, as well as with the sdk.
beb986 No.16591532
>>16591492
>1930's Nazi Germany
>Implying they're as bad as epic or steam
And 1930's germany was just germany, not nazi germany. Lurk more.
1f48bf No.16591545
>owned by (((tencent)))
>client is basically spyware with its (((telemetry)))
>shady (((spyware))) anticheat
>bribes developers for (((exclusivity)))
>strategy is to undercut competition then become monopoly
>does the same crap every other (((digital storefront))) does (drm, not owning your games, etc.)
>gives Lunix the finger
>accounts that were buying 'too many games' during sales were flagged as 'fraudulent'
a76e2a No.16591550
>>16591201
>owned by the chinese
>literal chinese spyware
>constant fuckups and shady practices (making big sales of a bunch of games, which would result in a loss of money, so they made it so you had to buy games individually and the store would crash once you bought too many games to prevent you from making them lose too much, for example)
>overall the sales are somehow worse than steams gay current year sales and the client is way worse(again, literal spyware)
Sage for shit thread because we have a question thread.
c74d19 No.16591551
>>16591536
The G4 version was a furnace inside, though. The G3 could have water cooling because of the temperature.
35ca86 No.16591554
>>16591536
I have one of those.
d3f50c No.16591558
>>16591545
Don't forget the store itself took games down that were getting bought too much on discount. Just a complete shitshow in general.
212ed2 No.16591561
>>16591472
>unity tracks you
>unreal engine tracks you
so what the fuck do we use then? godot cant into 3D and all the other shit out there is for 2D
a76e2a No.16591564
c74d19 No.16591569
>>16591561
You could proceed as how the pictureanon did and see if the sdk tracks you or not. If it's internet only (sending off info to tracking.unrealengine.com etc.) then you can block it routerside to prevent it from escaping.
246a9a No.16591581
epic store and steam are the reasons i pirate video games
c74d19 No.16591583
>>16591554
I heard that you can expand them quite a lot and put like 3 GPUs in them.
>>16591564
If you dislike (((cocs))), then vulkan isn't for you sadly (the entire khronos foundation has (((a coc)))).
a76e2a No.16591589
>>16591570
>y-yeah but is it really that bad?
Kek
>>16591583
Is it a default "don't be a nigger" CoC or is it like the linux CoCk?
548242 No.16591590
>>16591497
Well yes, but that was old Valve. They were cool.
>>16591498
flock off Pooh Bear
>>16591532
In any case you get my point.
c74d19 No.16591597
>>16591589
Like Linux's (based roughly on the same (((feminazi))) thing).
825b8f No.16591612
>Owned by commie chinks
>Horrible pricing and horrible UI (can't even search for games and can't buy shit without it locking your account)
>Buys games making them exclusive to their store (steam never did this and neither did fucking Origin)
a76e2a No.16591615
>>16591597
Well shit, so much for that. Is there any unpozzed framework left?
c74d19 No.16591634
>>16591615
They adopted it like in November of 2018. Previous builds are safe.
Unpozzed frameworks, sadly… EGL? Löve? Some old thing like Source (no longer updated to avoid pozzing)? In the worst case we could make our own.
12275a No.16591637
Dont support Tencent. as simple as that OP
a7802e No.16591638
>>16591520
>it says tracking.unrealengine.com.
well you need to log in to start editor since it needs to verify your marketplace library etc, the question is if it's on the level of shit like vs code that literally injects telemetry into your programs by default even when that's nowhere in your sourcecode.
59b7ca No.16591644
>>16591638
Visual Studio literally doesn't compile my code unless if I disable my VPN, fuck that program.
a9c82e No.16591647
>Tencent investors
>brought console-style exclusive faggotry to PC
b2cf27 No.16591650
people call it a store and the site has NO FUCKING SHOPPING CART
2fed26 No.16591652
>>16591570
Epic store is dogshit, but some of the things he mentions as positives for steam are actively bad. Mod distribution is the biggest one–the primary means of distributing mods shouldn't be a centralized platform controlled by the publisher, that's asking for trouble (see Paradox taking down "problematic" mods for Stellaris). Steam workshop was a mistake.
40777b No.16591656
>>16591403
>Not the Winnie the Pooh version
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
a76e2a No.16591662
>>16591634
>EGL
Doesn't that use OpenGL which is pozzed?
>Love
Can love even into complex 3D?
>Some old thing like Source (no longer updated to avoid pozzing)?
I guess there's that at least.
>>16591644
>visual studio
>compiling code
Are you using some gay plugin that sends your code to a server to compile or is that with an offline local compiler?
a9c82e No.16591663
>>16591656
HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS NEED TO BE SAID
CHINA HAS 8CHAN BLOCKED
ANYBODY WHO WOULD EVEN BE ABLE TO VISIT HERE WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY THIS COPYPASTA
8c95de No.16591664
>>16591201
>refund policies worst thean steam
>you cant review games on the page (or somethng wrong hos the review works)
a9c82e No.16591669
>>16591664
They don't even have a refund policy, do they?
0ad7b6 No.16591673
>>16591663
Why do you keep spamming the same post every time a guy posts bugspray?
a7802e No.16591677
>>16591652
>Steam workshop was a mistake.
depends, most games still support manual installation or some other method, which means even if the mod is blacklisted internally you could still get it to work (not that most publishers even bother with that, they'll just delist it).
for lewd stuff and anything else outside the normalfag range you always have to go outside the workshop anyway. meanwhile having mods at all shows normalfags what a perk it is (and also helps devs that the game is played longer so it can be sold longer for a higher price), a few publishers being cunts - which is also bad pr - doesn't outweigh the pros imo
1f48bf No.16591684
>>16591570
>most of the complaints are inconsequential garbage that has nothing to do with games (muh (((cloud))) save, muh screenshots, muh totally not pozzed forums, muh streaming, muh (((marketplace))), muh (((social features))) garbage)
>only salvageable shit can be hosted externally (guides, mods) without relying on steam, or is pozzed (reviews with the (((anti-review bombing))), family sharing still cancer because it locks you out of your entire library)
>doesn't mention the spyware, accounts blocked from purchases, games that were taken down during sales, user-hostile GUI
nigger/10
2fed26 No.16591687
>>16591677
>depends, most games still support manual installation or some other method
They do, but the workshop means that the community often doesn't bother building their own infrastructure for sharing mods. Even the lewd modding community mostly relies on sites that predate the workshop like loverslab.
a7802e No.16591698
>>16591687
> infrastructure for sharing mods
does it even need to? it wasn't a problem back then when you had to scour some weird geocity websites for a zip, and the tools to find shit have only gotten easier, as has word of mouth.
the people that want those kind of mods certainly will be able to find them, one way or another.
c74d19 No.16591704
>>16591662
Raw OpenGL is pozzed? How! Fucking ridiculous!
AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
tried to find a nice aaaa image but my folder is disorganized…
The visual studio telemetry also is on a local installation, there's plenty of evidence for that.
>>16591663
t. chinese shill
1f48bf No.16591708
>>16591704
>tried to find a nice aaaa image but my folder is disorganized…
here you go >>16565037
a76e2a No.16591718
>>16591704
>Raw OpenGL is pozzed?
I thought I had read something about it before, but I can't find anything right now. There's a chance I was just stupid and confused it with something else.
>The visual studio telemetry also is on a local installation
>microsoft
>not having telemetry
I already knew about that, but I've never heard about it blocking local compilers before.
0225c3 No.16591737
>>16591201
Jews being Jews, only this time they're chinks
cbdcb9 No.16591742
>never bought a game from epic
>mfw they keep shooting themselves in the foot and making sure I never buy a game from them
a7802e No.16591746
>>16591704
>>16591718
poz is relative, just look who it's members are. there's also the difference between having a coc and outright gestapo "anti-harrasment" teams like debian.
2fe63f No.16591754
>>16591201
It's so bad people got penalized for buying games during a sale. Oh and it mines your data. A lot worse than steam, facebook etc too.
>>16591561
There was a pretty cool looking engine I saw a while back, not too sure what it is but it makes games. It's called Crey, no idea if it's actually good or if it's filled with backdoors but look it up and hope for the best I guess.
c74d19 No.16591762
>>16591708
Thank you!
>>16591718
The local installation does insert telemetry, but as an anon said, it's possible that it blocks local compilations since it requires constant communication with microsoft's servers.
>>16591746
The (((cocs))) like Linux's basically demand a gestapo. Remember how the guy that had refused to allow (((intel's))) random number generator in the kernel got fired because of being a ""rape apologist""?
0929ee No.16591785
>>16591357
>there's 24 now
ff8853 No.16591789
>>16591310
>tfw own and love playing Rocket League
>cannot play without Wine now when I swap to linux later this year when Win7 finally dies
I knew they were shit, but this is insane. Fuck Epic and the Chinks.
>>16591492
Except that I would spit in the face of Kike boycotts of German goods.
59b7ca No.16591791
>>16591662
I code with UE4 and C++, but it won't compile anything unless if I disable my VPN.
1a3041 No.16591793
>>16591255
It always blows my fucking mind that companies constantly get away with such in depth and unregulated datamining, while people doing actual scientific research for universities on human subjects, in some cases for the betterment of mankind, have to jump through so many fucking hoops just to get approval to start the study.
Like I know it shouldn't, I know its large corporations that really run the show, but its just so fucking crazy that its the way things are.
995ba5 No.16591794
Plenty of other anons have covered it at this but, but Tencent is seriously the slimiest, most soulless cash whore of a company in the gaming industry right now. Their shady tactics, from hostile takeovers to outright IP theft/bootlegging, make EA look like a friendly indie studio. There is no decent argument for giving a single cent of your money to them.
a76e2a No.16591803
>>16591791
Oh, so it's probably unreal's compiler. That's really gay and jewish, but it's not as bad as I had thought.
c74d19 No.16591822
>>16591803
Perhaps microsoft's bloated pile of 10GB shite (unlike lean [in comparison] GCC and Clang) does.
a7802e No.16591845
>>16591762
>Remember how the guy that had refused to allow (((intel's))) random number generator in the kernel got fired because of being a ""rape apologist""?
was that done via maintainers or from outside?
only thing I remember is how linus tore them a new one for being shit, then got bullied into a break via his daughter only to come back and still shit on everyone that is too retarded.
c74d19 No.16591857
>>16591789
Windows 7 will die on January 14th, 2020. Maybe, a niche embedded edition will keep the support alive for some 5 years more, and still enthusiasts (etc.) will keep using it for a long, long time just like there still are Windows XP (un)riced desktops kicking around. Besides, a sizable amount of programs will still have Windows 7 versions and/or can be compiled to it. Sadly I have heard that graphics and browsers (maybe more) companies are planning to drop support far faster than with XP.
cbdcb9 No.16591876
>>16591857
>companies are planning to drop support far faster than with XP.
That's because very few hospitals and nuclear power plants use Windows 7 as opposed to XP
c74d19 No.16591878
>>16591845
From outside, because of (((coraline ada ehmek))) or whatever its name is. It was even doxxed back then, lol.
Linus isn't like before. He's too soft now. The incompetent (((intel))) engineers (maybe they send them like that on purpose; in related news, the open source branch of (((intel))) adopted a (((coc))) like Linux's) need a lot more pushing around to behave and almost get away with mainlining shitty code, not even counting in (((redhat's))) absolute retardation.
a76e2a No.16591882
File: 375408d0b32a7e5⋯.gif (Spoiler Image, 1.08 MB, 608x900, 152:225, 375408d0b32a7e539c923a4584….gif)
>>16591822
I would honestly not be surprised if it's a 10GB bloated code that sends the code to a server where it uses GCC to compile it and send it back.
>Clang
Is it that time again?
c74d19 No.16591887
>>16591878
almost not getting away with mainlining shitty code*
0966d5 No.16591899
a76e2a No.16591967
>>16591899
>time for what?
1f48bf No.16592004
>>16591878
anon, why do you dislike the CoC? Is don't be a dick too much to ask? Can't you just behave like a decent human being? We're just trying to keep things professional and create an inclusive and welcoming environment :^)
269d05 No.16592010
>>16591882
It's always that time
c74d19 No.16592370
>>16592004
I wonder if :^) is a more hidden way to say ((())). Is it?
ff8853 No.16592385
ca4aae No.16592402
>>16591257
The biggest roadblock to linux adoption is linux being a giant pile of shit
1f48bf No.16592480
>>16592402
>linux being a giant pile of shit
only shit that sucks is stuff beginners have no business touching (e.g. writing systemd service files, X configfiles). (you) are a baiting faggot.
ca4aae No.16592490
>>16592480
Keep telling yourself that
a9c82e No.16592503
>>16592480
The UI for most Linux-based operating systems is what turns a lot of people off.
2bd907 No.16592527
>>16592480
>systemd
You're the faggot here kike.
f4bbe3 No.16592539
>>16591201
One word: (((Tencent)))
cbdcb9 No.16592540
>>16592503
elementary os is ok I think
f4bbe3 No.16592548
>>16592490
That image may be a meme, but that car can't be forced to drive you into oncoming traffic when it's onboard chip gets hacked if you say the wrong things about the wrong people on the internet.
58138d No.16592556
Why Zion Don hates china and waving a tradewar at them thought? They are losing important money
58138d No.16592558
>>16592556
>>16591483
Sorry forgot to quote
e58580 No.16592561
>>16592556
Wow, money you'll never see and will never contribute to American jobs? Why are you such a cocksucker?
266223 No.16592570
>>16592480
>systemd service files
>not for beginners
1eb84b No.16592573
>>16591310
Will Linux EVER have games?
f4bbe3 No.16592578
>>16592573
We'll have Linux games in the next 3-5 years. Once DirectX takes a back seat to Vulcan in the next generation more devs will start to train and produce with it and realize they can reach larger audiences. We just have to hope Microsoft shits the bed this generation like they did the last two.
573927 No.16592589
>>16592578
>larger audiences
<with a 5% market share
lol
573927 No.16592590
File: f2de94bd24af0a4⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 9 KB, 1613x253, 1613:253, waterfox_2019-06-13_06-15-….png)
>>16592589
Actually not 5%, my bad
cc7213 No.16592591
>>16591652
that's a problem with paradox, not valve though, valve has been hands-off in this kind of thing for a while now, starbound still has the nazi mod and some other mods have nude models in them too.
ff8853 No.16592602
>>16592490
>some people make something of their own instead of just buying some piece of shit
>it's not perfect but it works
>haha look at these retards trying to be self-sufficent
>>16592590
>>16592589
A lot of people still use Windows 7 to game. A lot of people really don't like Windows 10. It's possible, someone just needs to capitalize on it.
1f48bf No.16592667
>>16592490
call me when windows
>doesn't fucking require to download some anti-(((telemetry))) bullcrap (that's usually placebo btw) from some rando's github to be able to use it
>gets its shit together with settings (it takes a very special kind of stupid to fuck up worse than lunix)
<application settings split between registry, appdata, and own files. barely any documentation of course (there's often shit that's not in the GUI settings)
<system settings scattered throughout control panel, registry, settings app, mmc console, etc. can't figure jack shit on your own without using google (especially for registry-related shit like windows update)
>gets non-retarded command line (cmd sucks, powershell is awkward as fuck)
>stops being user-hostile, fixing what ain't broken every fucking release, and pushing shit down people's throats
<remember metro, forced updates, cortana, and microsoft store? Also (((feature updates))) revert your settings
<remember when they removed theming, forcing white colors for explorer?
<remember the W10 1809 fiasco that deleted people's home folder? (inb4 >using windows 10. windows 7 dies next year faggots)
the only reason to use Windows is game and application support. It's the only thing keeping it afloat. It otherwise has absolutely NO merits. It's easy and intuitive on the surface level only, while being complete shit under the hood. Fucking hell, W8 removed the ability to see stored wifi passwords through GUI (have to use fucking netsh, how's that 'user-friendly'?).
>>16592527
>getting triggered over choice of example
wew lad
>>16592570
>implying a beginner even knows what a service is to begin with
though you're right, sysvinit was clunkier
>>16592590
>implying Lunix users don't opt out of surveys (and if it's user-agent-based, they often spoof)
95c7cc No.16592676
>>16591219
I also wanna add that the client not only scans your steam folder plus shares details, it also does a quick scan of your C: drive, other games drives, browser cookies and app data.
Don't use it.
http://archive.is/ZVGmK
>>16591255
Basically this.
9173ed No.16592683
>>16591219
>Shit games
It's not so much shit games as it is actively ruining a game. I'm one of those faggots who were looking forward to Phoenix Point and Rebel Galaxy Outlaws, although the former game is 90% going to suck after developer responses.
5d18fd No.16592746
>>16591382
It's easier to run surveillance on and control people if you strongarm them all into using one OS.
893663 No.16592762
>>16592503
>being so babby he needs a UI
use the shell or kill yourself
664d8c No.16592781
>>16591570
>i don't have to worry about anyone stealing all my data from Steam
Holy shit, stop, you're killing me
5223ed No.16592813
>>16592762
While it's understandable to have people informed on how to use a computer in the most technical sense, it's unreasonable to not have any sort of user interface beyond a basic terminal for any sort of computer.
664d8c No.16592869
>>16592813
It's not as basic as you think, Linux terminals offer very good tab completion and other features that make typing commands a breeze. There are also some things that it objectively does better, like performing operations on many files at once quickly through wildcards and regex. The problem is it takes time – not all that much, mind you, but most people are still too impatient. If you ever get a chance to use it for your job, take it and use the opportunity to learn, you might be surprised.
190930 No.16593117
>>16591536
Remember when Apple actually tried to make good shit instead of just selling glorified fashion accessories to yuppie cunts?
27955c No.16593158
>>16591637
This is woefully outdated. Tencent has grown a lot bigger and bolder than this.
>>16591704
Here you go.
905037 No.16593249
>>16593117
iMacs would freeze every 10 minutes.
53386f No.16593272
>>16591219
I want to say something in favor of Tencent: their QQ messanging client was really good and convenient for a while, especially if you just disable updates and whatnot. What I don't get it is, if they already had one to begin with, why wouldn't they add one to their store?
Still, fuck the Chinese.
25c97a No.16593330
>>16593249
I said they tried, I didn't say they succeeded.
e2a448 No.16593338
>>16593281
"I have a feeling the guy with the long hair will get hit"
lol, almsot like an anime
441991 No.16593357
>>16591219
most of those things arent there because its new (steam was horrible at the start)
and with Tencent, its just ownership bias
557cb2 No.16593369
>>16593357
Epic isn't competing with Steam from 10 years ago, it's competing with Steam now, and Steam clearly has more features and a more robust catalog.
756e52 No.16593374
>>16593281
>Someone actually comes to help the log truck driver
No way that's china, maybe Taiwan or something?
83796f No.16593389
>>16592503
>The UI for most Linux-based operating systems is what turns a lot of people off.
If anything, it's much easier to get a decent UI on Linux than on Windows.
40f7a3 No.16593417
Reasons why consumers hate Epic Store
>Offers absolutely nothing over Steam (The better revenue share doesn't count, games that moved from Steam to Epic Store did NOT have their prices reduced.)
>Prices on Epic Store are actually HIGHER if you use certain payment processors, as the Epic Store doesn't want to cover the fees.
>Only reason why it stays afloat is from exclusivity deals
>CEO autisticly barks at Steam to try and make themselves appear better instead of actually making their store better
Reasons why developers should avoid Epic Store
>Shit reputation means reduced sales.
>Exclusivity deal is rumored to just be "guaranteed" sales (Epic buys copies if you wont reach your target), meaning that any developer that believes in his own product wont benefit. (The new Subnautica not being an Epic Store exclusive despite the first one being given away for free is very telling.)
>Much of the better revenue share disappears for users that use payment processors with higher fees.
>Walled garden means the store can refuse your game for whatever reason.
>Epic Store's API's aren't public, but they definitely provide less functionality than Steamworks on many fronts.
>If Epic's Fortnite money runs out, so will the exclusives. If the Epic Store hasn't taken off by then, then your game will sink together with it. You can launch on Steam, but that simply wont create as much buzz as the initial launch.
I was quite hyped to see the Epic Store launch, as I want Steam to have competition. But we're now half a year later, and not a single god damn feature has been added to the store. We STILL don't have a shopping cart, for fuck sake.
1f48bf No.16593434
>>16592813
Most people are have terrible impressions of CLI thanks to DOS being horrid (single-task and one instance of shell only, can't scroll back, pager sucks (scrolls one screen forward, can't scroll up), piss-poor built-in documentation (and tons of shitty retard-tier tutorials and books), no scrollback buffer, vague error messages, retarded syntax (see for loop), etc.). Most of those grievances are greatly alleviated in lunix (saner syntax, decent help (–help switches, /usr/share/doc, info and man pages, etc.), allows multiple terminals (even in consoles using a multiplexer), good pager with search for sifting through pages of text, etc.).
The hardest part about CLI today is probably finding out shit you had no idea even existed (e.g. shell options, relevant environment variables), and learning common no-nos (e.g. rm -rf ~/$VARIABLE). Syntax consistency across programs also kind of sucks (e.g. gcc uses single-hyphen long options, most programs use double hyphens; some programs make you write an option's value with space, others without, others use a =). Though I'd say once you get the basics down and learn basic utilities (e.g. ls, ln, cp, mv, less, find) it gets comfy real quick.
>it's unreasonable to not have any sort of user interface beyond a basic terminal for any sort of computer.
TUI has existed for a long time (see MS-DOS edit), and applications had a more efficient workflow too, being designed around keyboard use. It wasn't the pinnacle of UI design by any means, but it's still miles better than the bloated, eye-cancer-filled, clunky mouse-driven garbage with piss-poor keyboard support we have today (see steam, epic store, modern web browsers, etc.)
a57597 No.16593442
>>16593374
Nobody in china can swim yet they've had Olympic swimming champions, you get the occasional anomaly with a billion plus population.
8d1e4c No.16593443
>>16593357
The only reason anyone is buying anything from the EGS is because they have strong-armed developers and bought up exclusivity rights for distribution. It's not that they are competing based on platform features, customer service, functionality, or even superficial aesthetics. The EGS business model isn't
>Use our store because of [all of the following reasons]
It's
<Use our store, because you have no other choice, due to our underhanded tactics
The fact that they have the CPC's hand lodged firmly up their ass and Fortnite and Chinese funnymoney is funding the whole thing only makes it worse. There is no intent to add new features. They've outright said that they want no forums, user reviews, or any of the other features people like on Steam. They can't even handle sales and coupons correctly because their "store" is so barebones, it can barely handle users making more than one purchase at a time.
441991 No.16593500
>>16593417
lots of conjecture and hyperbole here
>>16593443
and?
you think store doing something better than Steam for the good of the customers will somehow magically succeed? you are kidding yourself. Steam was strongarmed into Valves most successful products for reason
40f7a3 No.16593515
>>16593500
>lots of conjecture
Nigger, of course its partly conjecture. They're not releasing all their fuck-ups to the public, that would be terrible PR.
>hyperbole
Where do you think you are?
34f51a No.16593520
>>16592503
>The UI for most Linux-based operating systems is what turns a lot of people off.
not really actually. ask any boomer (literal boomers, not the meme version) and they can handle that shit usually better than windows. remember "why do I have to press start to shutdown?".
anybody else should be mentally fit enough to switch easily to a windows clone like cinnamon.
>inb4 MUH CLI
meanwhile every winfag is jerking themselves over ms releasing a new terminal and they have no problem pasting some weird powershell commands to fix microsoft's retarded bullshit (not to mention fuck around with the registry since windows home doesn't even have a group policy editor)
>>16592573
chicken/egg problem. no install base means no money, which means no games so the install base doesn't grow asf.
technically it's pretty easy, most engines export to linux by now and if there's a macos version linux wouldn't be much more work.
357686 No.16593522
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34f51a No.16593523
>>16593417
>I want Steam to have competition
legit curious, why? prices? already taken care of with free key generation. features? steam is already bloated enough with shit nobody or hardly anyone uses.
a57597 No.16593551
Hey gweilos, watch me jump!
f18cbf No.16593552
>>16593523
Competition is good anon it forces people to actually improve their products to compete. The problem is that everyone that has tried to compete with steam has released services that are complete fucking dogshit. GoG is the only one that comes close to competing with steam but they don't get every game because publishers don't like the whole no drm thing.
653159 No.16593586
>>16593281
To be fair guy on the bike 100% deserved to be crushed, it's natural selection at work.
Anyone that did the same shit in the west would get crushed too, the driver can't see him!
40f7a3 No.16593599
>>16593523
Competition means they have to improve. Steam still has plenty of bugs and downtime.
There's also smaller features they can introduce, as they have detailed in their 2019 roadmap and already have this year. They just aren't newsworthy because they're mostly some minor improvements to Steamworks or Steam Community.
It also means that they might be replaced by something else that may be even better. Too bad Epic spent the last 6 months they're not any better.
a693ca No.16593604
https://twitter.com/gatoray_kof/status/1139027757122277376
>Kuroki director said, some PC download platform wanted an exclusive release on the condition of a pre-order of hundreds of thousands, but SNK CEO rejected because he thought Samurai Shodown will be for sale million copies.
Can't archive right now, but doesn't that sound familiar ? It would confirm suspicions that Ebin pays for copies of games up front so publishers can then boast about "6 million copies sold, if everyone is buying it then surely it's a good game innit my fellow consumers ?" (Satisfactory for example).
004552 No.16593614
>>16593551
You can die from that height?
or was it more because he fell into the water like a pig?
cd2431 No.16593615
>>16593551
why did he die? (was it the green water)
27955c No.16593625
>>16593614
I'm guessing it's a combination of the water being extremely polluted, and that landing on his back knocked him out and he then drowned. Notice how he doesn't come to the surface immediately, if it was just acid or whatever he should have come up and screamed..
cd2431 No.16593626
>>16593625
why does his back look so fucked up?
ab4616 No.16593627
>Ultra mega kike corp swindles everyone
<"boohoo they only do that because they have a monopoly"
>"hey I'm not an ultra mega kike corp, buy my shit" - mao zedong chong bong fong
>swindles everyone despite promising not to
<"well at least it's competition I guess"
>now you have two swindlers and this somehow better
They're fighting a little bit right now, but it will not inevitably lead to a situation where one party stops gouging to undercut the other, leading to a chain that provides fairer prices and practices for the consumer. Rather, they might take turns gouging the same consumers or specialize in gouging different consumer groups, like an economic cartel. In the future, I can see Epic getting ACTIVISION GAME SPORTS and then Steam getting ACTIVISION GAME FPS if Epic doesn't screw up somehow.
deacc0 No.16593633
>>16593614
I'm guessing the landing on the water hurt his back so much he couldn't swim to save his life, I think you can see him almost come back to the surface only to go down again and drown.
774410 No.16593641
>>16593626
Internal Bleeding. Bellyflop off a bridge like him and you will break your back as well.
1f48bf No.16593648
>>16593552
>Competition is good
Sorry to burst your bubble. Companies compete for market share and/or highest revenue, not for making the better product or satisfying their customers the most. The end result is usually a race to the bottom. Making good stuff doesn't pay as well as getting dumb schmucks to pay for a polished turd (see CrApple).
4894c7 No.16593651
>>16593442
Bugmen fixing industrial machines while they're still running are out of their fucking minds.
774410 No.16593660
>>16593633
It’s why diving is a thing.
You need to pierce the water with a small surface area. (Finger tips or toes) then let the water expand outwards around your body.
This fat ass chink boomer flopped his entire body on the water and the surface retention gave him bone breaking whiplash.
4894c7 No.16593682
>>16593551
>>16593614
Fall poorly enough and a hit like that is like striking concrete. I've fallen off a 16ft board badly before, landing front first and I'll tell ya the pain is ubiquitous, I turned red all over my front, hurt like fuck for a day+. Scaling that up my guess is the damage/shock probably knocked the wind out of him and then the water did the rest, once your lungs are full of fluid floating is nigh impossible.
5ff8cc No.16593736
>>16591219
You forgot.
>chink botnet
664d8c No.16593747
>>16592573
They are slowly getting games through "osmosis" if you will. By that I mean that software development in general has been heading towards all encompassing platform support for a while. Microsoft directly supports development with their tools in Linux now. It's not the greatest, but this pattern has emerged all over. Another thing that helped substantially was that NVidia started releasing native Linux drivers again after not doing so for years; the open source drivers are honestly pathetic in this particular case. Many game engines, such as Unity, offer virtually no effort portability to the point where the dev says "Well might as well release for Linux because I just need to click a button and change a couple of config values."
Valve, for all the dumb shit they have done, actively support Linux gaming as well. Why? Because they don't want games to be bound to Microsoft's OS. Valve has to bend the knee to Microsoft's whim at a certain point if they want to distribute video games. They don't like that.
417cc3 No.16593767
355a23 No.16593771
i would buy game from epicstore just for butthurt, and also to support chinese surveillance because usa has a monopoly, and monopoly is bad
d8de94 No.16593828
>>16592667
You don't seem to understand that most people don't give a shit about any of this. They want an OS where they don't need to worry about anything, where they don't need to learn anything that has to do with the OS, where shit just werks without the need to jury rig shit together. If the user is ever forced to open the command line or do any settings alteration beyond the color scheme, you failed as an UI designer. You attitude is like that of a motorist being pissed about how it's more difficult to disassemle an engine nowadays – you are right that it is more difficult, but the bulk of motorists do not care, and if they're even in a situation where they actually need to disassemble the engine, then it just means that the engine is bad.
5ff8cc No.16593883
>>16593771
>heh let me shot myself just to spite you that'll show you
Wew, king of the brainlets over here.
f18cbf No.16593884
>>16593648
>Companies compete for market share and/or highest revenue, not for making the better product or satisfying their customers the most.
Your market share is going to be pretty small if your product gets reviewed like you just gave the customer AIDS.
dd8ee0 No.16593895
Apparently this is also a thing.
643239 No.16593897
imagine being a paypig for the vidya industry. lmao.
6d6cfa No.16593923
>>16593614
Falling from a far enough height into water will kill you due to the surface tension/ sudden change of inertia because the water can't displace fast enough to make it a soft//slow exchange of force (so it's like hitting concrete as another anon said). Why do you think people commit suicide by jumping off the golden gate or other similarly large bridges?
Remember kids, it's not the fall that kills you; it's the sudden stop.
a74b78 No.16594127
>>16593884
>Your market share is going to be pretty small if your product gets reviewed like you just gave the customer AIDS.
But that is not the case.
a57597 No.16594146
>>16593923
>golden gate or other similarly large bridges?
I remember watching a suicide documentary on that bridge and some teenager survived, I dont think they ever mentioned how though.
e91265 No.16594238
>>16592602
I'm still running windows 7. When I bought my Ryzen cpu last year I planned to move to Linux, but I was able to actually get windows 7 to run on a cpu (((media))) told me it wasn't compatible with.
So, for now I'm sticking with windows 7, but I've been considering Linux a lot lately, and that nagging voice in my mind won't go away, so I'll probably be there before the end of the year.
I won't move to windows 10. It's a firm no.
5ff8cc No.16594245
>>16591338
>how to screenshot
I know this is bait, but come on, that's some low hanging fruit.
>muh cheese grater
>merely ironic guise
Jesus.
ee41fd No.16594259
>>16594238
The instructions on the newer intel architectures are not technically supported, which is what they're talking about. It probably works most of the time, but expect blue screens or other random bullshit. I was in the exact same position as you, got a new CPU that was not technically supported and I didn't want to deal with random issues. I also expected there to be incompatibility thrown in intentionally because Microsoft is contracting with hardware manufacturers to coerce people to use Windows 10.
ee41fd No.16594263
>>16594259
>>16594238
Also, since you have an AMD CPU it's probably less gay with compatibility than the Intel one I bought.
e91265 No.16594274
>>16593828
Terrible example and it's a bit of a strawman.
All shit breaks inevitably.
Being able to fix an engine easily, or use command line to fix an operating system is a good thing, and 90% of owners/users not caring about this doesn't make it any less so.
It might not be an important marketing point, but it's still a good thing.
Also, to your strawman, the average person doesn't need to access the terminal in Linux for daily use (just like the average person doesn't access 90% of the functions in Windows). So it isn't about whether a user cares or doesn't care about these features, it's about the fact that windows has two things that make it difficult for Linux to break into the mainstream.
<1: Microsoft has deals with OEM manufacturers to install only the most recent version of Windows on all of their pcs.
<2: Users are therefore always used to the most recent version of Windows due to a forced adoption by the very OEM manufacturers they're buying their computers from.
People bitched about windows 10 until they got used to it (many still do). So it isn't that windows is superior for the average user, it's just that it's what they were given and therefore became most accustomed to.
Linux isn't small because of it being a good or bad OS, it's small because Microsoft has a near monopoly on OEM installation.
523dd6 No.16594280
>>16593828
>They want an OS where they don't need to worry about anything,
>where they don't need to learn anything that has to do with the OS
>where shit just werks without the need to jury rig shit together.
>If the user is ever forced to open the command line or do any settings alteration beyond the color scheme, you failed as an UI designer.
so…not windows then?
e91265 No.16594290
>>16594259
I've never had blue screens or other system failures (honest engine). Ryzen works perfectly fine with windows 7.
I do think Intel was doing more with Microsoft to enforce 10 adoption though, so maybe that's a difference?
If I remember right, AMD had windows 7 on the early marketing for Ryzen, and then it went away, so I'm guessing Microsoft talked to them behind closed doors. Maybe the support was there originally, but they simply removed it from the ads?
There were a few east to circumvent barriers to get 7 installed, so perhaps they were put in place after the fact to go along with whatever Microsoft worked out with them?
Totally guessing here though.
523dd6 No.16594457
>>16594290
>If I remember right, AMD had windows 7 on the early marketing for Ryzen, and then it went away, so I'm guessing Microsoft talked to them behind closed doors.
they still do, just not in marketing anymore.
https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x470
210165 No.16594517
>>16593615
>>16593614
cervical dislocation almost certainly…no obvious froth around mouth and leaking onto chest means he did not inhale before dying- ie drowning so his lungs must have been paralysed instantly. Drowning froth from the mouth and nose is very obvious on the recently deceased and continues for sometime after death.(this is different than the very bloody froth pushed out of the anus, ears, genitals, mouth/nose of a body 3-4 days after death)
>>16593626
Bruising antemortem + lividity
2be16b No.16594522
>>16593895
>botnet
Except that image didn't prove jack shit about a botnet, it has no more spyware than Steam does.
>inb4 chink
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523dd6 No.16594531
>>16593599
>>16593552
competition just for competitions sake isn't always the best, plus you'll always end up with a market leader.
>It also means that they might be replaced by something else that may be even better. Too bad Epic spent the last 6 months they're not any better.
that was the main question. steam sure isn't perfect but what's there that could really be improved? stuff like the friends list is already replaced by other services etc.
547d88 No.16594541
>>16593604
So nobody gives a shit about this ? Basically almost confirms that games on the Ebic Store don't actually sell and they're buying exclusivity by promising "virtual" sales. This also makes the 500k copies sold of Satisfactory even more suspicious than before. It also sounds like a typical underhanded chink tactic, buy games with thousands of dummy accounts, you can boast how great your store is because new games get successful on it and the publisher can advertise to the world that "tons of people are buying it, surely they can't be wrong right fellow consumers ?".
7f5397 No.16594549
>>16593828
>If the user is ever forced to open the command line or do any settings alteration beyond the color scheme, you failed as an UI designer.
This is exactly what windows became. They even removed control panel lul.
Every advice about doing something in windows now starts with
>TYPE in the search bar and press enter
Windows literally became command line OS not GUI OS. Oh, the irony.
635968 No.16594563
>>16592667
>windows 7 dies next year
Windows 7 dies when I stop using it, faggot
e05715 No.16594575
gamers are lazy and dont want to make an epic account. that's it
e31f02 No.16594634
>>16592490
>GNU/car breaks down
>open it up and swap some parts found on a nearby junkyard, glue shit together and it werks again
>want to put a .50cal MG on the back
>just unscrew the rear section of the cabin roof, remove rear seats then mount the MG using a mixture of Ikea and slavland scrap, hook it to a Vietnam era fire control radar, re-emerge gentoo and it is done
>if it doesn't work there are plenty of autists you can ask for help as long as you've adapted to their special needs
>car can be made to operate on almost any fuel and drive on every kind of road on this gay earth, niggers won't even notice the average GNU/car as it naturally blends in with the African environment shielding the user from semitic remarks
<Wangblows/car breaks down
<have to sift through various overpriced repair shops, all of which are scams to some degree
<fixing it yourself requires either extensive equipment with operating loicenses and certificates or dumb luck through banging on it followed by turning it on and off again
<third party parts exist but they're often shady as fuck, lack detailed documentation and tend to steal your personal belongings
<want to put a .50cal MG on the back
<car is a sedan and the roof is full of telemetry wiring necessary for getting the engine to run
<removing it would be an expensive custom job, as would opening up the rear seats+cargo compartment to fit an MG there
<on top of getting the attention of Feds and the Manufacturer unless the car happens to be in the middle east
<car will break down outside of paved roads and nearby unleaded gasoline infrastructure, driving it outside of civilized areas will also get you robbed, abducted and/or killed
1f48bf No.16594794
>>16593828
>where shit just werks without the need to jury rig shit together
>where the user is never forced to open the command line
Except Windows doesn't meet anything of that anymore you nitwit. It doesn't even 'just werk' anymore. You have to change a fuckton of user-raping settings out of the box (like forced updates, privacy, removing telemetry, removing M$ store), have to install VC++ runtimes/.net framework, updates alter many settings without telling you and every version adds more shit you have to change, etc..
>where they don't need to learn anything that has to do with the OS
Now you're just taking the piss. The moment a problem crops up (forced updates, program crashing, uninstall fails, font is too small), is the moment a Windows user opens google and looks up a tutorial or guide. Further, most people THINK they know nothing about Windows, but they know quite a bit (even basic shit like file extensions and 'safely remove hardware' are examples). It's just that they grew on it so dealing with its bullshit has become second-nature to them.
Moreover, catering to complete retards is always a bad idea. Look what mass-appeal, dumbing down, and casualization are doing to the games industry.
ff8853 No.16594944
>>16594634
>GNU/car
>not GNU/tank or Dozer
>can upgrade into GNU/killdozer with enough time and money
43d2a5 No.16594949
>>16594541
just confirms what people already suspected.
meanwhile coffee stain and another dev whose name I forgot are already crawling back to steam and people "love steam" even on epic's own sponsored show.
they really didn't make any friends.
d94750 No.16594998
>>16592591
Does Chucklefuck even make anything original? Seems like everything I see out of them is just a direct and intentional ripoff of other series. Stardew Valley is just Harvest Moon. Wargroove is just Advanced Wars. Starbound looks like it's just a Terraria.
6f59d2 No.16595049
>>16591201
It got outed very quickly as malware it was taking shit like steam files, browser cookies, infecting your PC with spyware to keep track of everything you do such as sites you visit and most likely a keylogger to boot and scrap any shred of personal information just to name a few, of course tencent though ahead and bribed (((journalists))) to do damage control for them there isn't a single site that reported on any of it and instead proclaim how great this malware is for the consumer, it's not working though everyone fucking hates it and when a game becomes a tencent malware exclusive the devs get nothing but hate for it.
Another thing you have to realise is Tencent is in deep with the Chinese communist party so just guess were all that data is going to.
Sweeney is a fucking cockroach.
>>16593614
Yes hitting water from that height is no different then hitting concrete, notice the bruises on his back.
>>16593604
>Epic/Tencent are buying games themselves to inflate numbers
This is just pathetic.
ee41fd No.16595106
>>16594549
They didn't actually remove Control Panel which is the retarded part. You just can't access it from the quick menu that you get by right clicking the start icon. Windows 10 is the ultimate mess of UI, attempting to please literally everyone. I know you probably use the quick search and many people do, but I'd bet money that there are people who refuse to remember the name of anything they use and absolutely must have pictures to click on.
43d2a5 No.16595171
>>16595106
>Windows 10 is the ultimate mess of UI
452db0 No.16595186
Because exclusivity is a cancer.
And this one is caused by walking through a Chinese Gas Cloud.
2e25eb No.16595216
It's just another steam. The only difference is that people haven't been conditioned to accept it, so it's become an excuse for valvedrones to reaffirm how much they love getting fucked in the ass by Valve instead of getting fucked in the ass by Tencent. Every (actual) problem it has, Steam also has.
If you want to manage your game collection, you should use something like Windows Explorer instead. It's better at this in every way.
ee41fd No.16595248
>>16595171
Thanks for the reminder. The optimist part of me wants to doubt that this is real, but VSCode has proven that even with modern tools MS UI devs are retarded.
40f7a3 No.16595251
>>16595216
>(actual)
Lemme guess, every problem that Epic Store suffers from that Steam doesn't, doesn't fall under this?
212ed2 No.16595265
>>16593281
Where can I find more chink videos? its too fun guessing whats going to happen next, its like final destination
af4991 No.16595368
>>16595315
post the ones with sound crossie nigger
f57cf2 No.16595404
>>16595265
>kid watches as his mother is eaten by an escalator, leaving nothing but a pool of blood
I know they're just bugmen and the little chimp will walk it off in a few days, but Jesus Christ
e31f02 No.16595447
>>16594944
That's the nice thing about open source software, it can be anything you want it to be.
I-is that why trannies have infested the scene?
37a446 No.16595466
from what i've gathered is because the epic store lacks most of the features that steam has, like reviews and such.
but to be honest, its mostly because sweeney pays devs to keep games hostage for years. and that seems to piss people off.
i personally don't care. there isn't a single game worth purchasing these days so i pirate everything. fuck the stores, and fuck the devs for cathering to kikes niggers and women.
5223ed No.16595478
>>16595447
It's more that coding's overflowing with too many codemonkeys.
f700fc No.16595516
>>16591310
>Pic 1
>Does it again but worse by pulling rocket league off of steam
Not surprise of how disingenuous these kikes are
80bbf0 No.16595562
>>16594998
No they don't because Tiyuri is a fucking hack ideas guy who made bank off of terraria's hype at just the right time by selling mock-up images of starbound then used that starbound money to become a publisher just as starbound was in the early stages of development.
61dab1 No.16595632
>>16591570
He may be right on this one but furriest still deserve the rope.
664d8c No.16595639
>>16595404
>>16595265
>The panel SWINGS OPEN as if it is some kind of stupid death trap straight out of Evil Dead, feeding her feet directly into a meat grinder
Is this even real? How the fuck can bug people even design something like this?
cc7213 No.16595673
>>16594998
stardew valley was not developed my chucklefuck, only published, but yea, they are hacks and starbound only stop being shit after you fill it with 300+ mods and even then it only goes from shit to mediocre.
They just updated the game today with the so called "bounty hunter mode", but surprise! It's fucking nothing.
It probably broke 90% of the mods too, so not even that they can do right.
212ed2 No.16595683
>>16595639
>Is this even real? How the fuck can bug people even design something like this?
china doesnt care for human life, because there is no human life in china. if you make a product that kills man bugmen, then good job, you did the peoples party proud by removing mouths to feed
2e25eb No.16596779
>>16595251
Exactly. The Epic store is slightly better in that there are no profiles, forums, groups, fake money, gambling/trading the fake money, no workshop, etc. although it's somewhat moot because I don't think any of the games on it support modding in the first place.
The rest of the problems, like the spyware, DRM, exclusivity, etc. are all problems Steam has. There's absolutely nothing that makes it worse than Steam in any of these areas.
25f955 No.16597141
>>16596779
>Everyone and their dog has posted multiple times across multiple threads why the fortnite store is worse in every category
<It's alright, I can just dismiss them all and admit to doing so, acting like I haven't already been debunked at length. You'll have to do it again, just for me!
No.
4d6e49 No.16597204
>>16595639
>How the fuck can bug people even design something like this?
it's the same design in the west, but it wasn't secured. so when she walked on it the pressure flipped it open and moved it which made her fall in.
it's like not properly fixing a sign, wind makes it swing, drops on your head, ded.
the difference is in the west that shit gets triple-checked, not only because you care enough that you simply don't want to anyone to drop in, but even if you don't your ass will be on the line with jailtime, fine or both.
that being said, china has the death penalty, so you'd think they at least care enough to not kill themselves. but then you get shit like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
make of that what you will.
d3f50c No.16597212
>>16594541
The store is designed to bankrupt western studios for buyouts, hence why they were shutting down Borderlands 3 preorders. Too many people were buying it.
6d6cfa No.16597318
>>16594146
He fell feet first, broke pretty much every lower bone including his hip and spine. Pretty much fucked for life.
e8226b No.16597388
>>16595368
I got em from 8chan you flaming faggot
2e25eb No.16597447
>>16597141
I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say. They are both spyware, and they are both DRM platforms, and this is what is wrong with them. The fake money, trading cards, social networking, mod distribution, etc. doesn't make Steam acceptable in any way shape or form. Those features make Steam more harmful.
I don't want a game launcher. I want these platforms to go away.
2d9c15 No.16597461
>>16593883
If you couldn't figure out that was the most easy of baits, you are the true retard here.
4d6e49 No.16597572
>>16597447
>I don't want a game launcher. I want these platforms to go away.
yes, because publishers or even devs would totally release a drm-free exe on some hacked together web 2.0 store without any fraud prevention or security.
2e25eb No.16597623
>>16597572
>because publishers or even devs would totally release a drm-free exe on some hacked together web 2.0 store without any fraud prevention or security.
What is GOG and itch.io?
ae0215 No.16597681
>>16597623
old game, indie scraps and delayed game repository.
4d6e49 No.16597911
>>16597623
you can use gog without an account tracking your purchase? it has all the games steam has?
639835 No.16597971
>>16597911
>you can use gog without an account tracking your purchase?
I guess tinfoil isn't enough for you so you live in a nuclear shelter.
653159 No.16597996
>>16593614
Why do you think a chosen method of offing themselves for people in cities is jumping from bridges?
Past a certain height it's the exact same thing as hitting concrete but even before that if the fall doesn't insta-kill you, physical shock + thermal shock will force your body into an unconscious state and drowning will take care of it.
There are ways to jump into water relatively safely from heights that largely means reducing contact with water to a minimum to increase penetration and not get as much surface resistance (essentially getting as stiff and straight as possible, you hold your shoulders with your arms and cross your legs over one another).
But relatively means exactly that, it's still unsafe as fuck.
4d6e49 No.16598118
>>16597971
because I was the one complaining about steam, right? are you retarded?
054b28 No.16598207
>>16593552
Ryoko is so perfect.
639835 No.16598239
>>16598118
>you can use gog
>because I was the one complaining about steam
d3f50c No.16598245
>>16598239
This is some next level thick headedness.
639835 No.16598259
>>16598245
Then explain to me oh holy one, the only see I shit is a fagget complaining about purchase tracking in a fucking store where people want ability to download games they purchase instead of one time installer or what else can not purchase tracking can fucking mean download which sounds like colossal idiocy.
80994b No.16598303
>>16598259
Follow the comment chain further back, retard.
9c50be No.16598313
>>16591201
Origin 2 Electric Boogaloo.
639835 No.16598340
>>16598303
Okay, I read, retard.
f6828e No.16598384
af7ffa No.16598395
>Never used Steam
>An autistic friend ask me to play Brawlhalla and Duel Links with him
>Install it around a week or so ago
>PC gets slightly slower whenever I start it
Why would anyone willingly like to have that shit running in the background?
4d6e49 No.16598398
>>16598259
the point is most companies don't want to release without drm, let alone denuvo, so you gonna have to make an account everywhere to purchase shit (because that's what drm is shitmunch). gog etc means fuck all when it only has a small selection of games and are worse versions than on steam. never mind that plenty of games bought on steam work without it and even if not all that shit that triggers you so hard can be completely ignored. no one forces you to buy cards or hats, add people to your friendslist or install mods via the workshop (which has more pros than cons, so you're extra retarded here)
you're nothing but a little bitch whining about MUH PLATFORMS when you don't understand the basic reasons why companies go with steam in the first place or why steam works the way it works.
worse, in your retardation you can't even comprehend how epic fucks over gog and other retailers while nothing of that was an issue with steam.
so you are either incredibly stupid or a very bad shill. either way neck yourself.
444287 No.16598399
>>16598395
most people have good enough pcs to where the slowdown from steam isnt noticeable
af7ffa No.16598412
>>16598399
That doesn't really justify having a program having to run in the background in order to play a game and making your P slower.
444287 No.16598420
>>16598412
if it doesn't actually make your pc slower (due to having good pc) than it does justify it
af7ffa No.16598427
>>16598420
It does make it slower even if you don't notice it.
639835 No.16598429
>>16598398
I read shit wrong, you're late to the party.
4d6e49 No.16598436
>>16598427
>start program
>program uses resources
ebe29b No.16598462
>>16598427
Not really. If you have memory to spare and at least one CPU core unutilized (and given that most video games don't use more than a few CPU cores at the most, it's likely) it's not going to make it slower at all.
Steam is shit, but not just because it's a program that runs at the same time as your games. There are far more intensive services you can usually shut down that use more resources than Steam, especially if you're running Windows, which starts up an assload of services nobody uses by default.
50c3db No.16598467
>>>/v/16596779
>Exactly. The Epic store is slightly better
<Botnet is slightly better
(You) colossal faggot. This level of gay is worse than the homosexual kind
2e25eb No.16598482
>>16597681
>>16597911
You're moving the goalposts. Even the first claim, that launchers are acceptable because publishers and developers want them, is still moving the goalposts. Developers like CDPR release stuff DRM free… that's an example of what everyone else should be doing. If you want to play a game that is a steam/epic exclusive, you should just pirate it.
Having some kind of identity as a buyer is an inherent problem with electronic money. It's bad, but that's not really the point here. It's leagues ahead of Steam and Epic.
>>16598467
They're both botnet. Do you think that Steam respects your privacy more than Epic in any way?
ff8853 No.16598500
>>16595632
Rags isn't a furry, but he's a faggot. So just as well.
>>16597681
>delayed
Worth it.
>scraps
Some of those are great.
>>16598482
>do chinks respect privacy more than canucks
That's your question here really.
50c3db No.16598506
>>16598482
>Developers like CDPR release stuff DRM free… that's an example of what everyone else should be doing. If you want to play a game that is a steam/epic exclusive, you should just pirate it.
>Having some kind of identity as a buyer is an inherent problem with electronic money. It's bad, but that's not really the point here. It's leagues ahead of Steam and Epic.
I… agree with this.
>>16598482
>They're both botnet. Do you think that Steam respects your privacy more than Epic in any way?
<implying
They're both shit. Doesn't matter if it's a pound of shit or a ton of shit. Even so, Epic Game Store is progressing even further down the wrong direction, adding to the already overblown amount of online PC storefronts.
dbf38d No.16598514
>>16598395
>An autistic friend ask me to play Brawlhalla and Duel Links with him
The fact that your friend is autistic and that he uses stEAm should've still only come as secondary warning flags when the game he asks you to play is named something like 'Brawlhalla'
f6828e No.16598526
2e25eb No.16598548
>>16598506
>>16598500
>They're both shit.
That's my point. (made in some earlier posts):
>>16597447
>>16595216
But I don't think that the Epic store existing makes things worse than if all of those games were on Steam or something. They'd still be locked to a spyware DRM platform. It's a worse user experience for buyfags who want all of the new games and would rather just get fucked over by one company, but I don't care about that. I want these markets to go away and so I think making the situation worse for the users of these markets is a good thing. It makes the real alternative more obvious.
1b1283 No.16598600
>>16593828
But it DOESN'T FUCKING WORK! The amount of absolutely butt-fuck RETARDED issues from a clean install of win10 on a brand new build a few months ago I had to fucking work around was goddamn mind-boggling.
8f8a31 No.16600614
1f48bf No.16600728
>>16598399
>most people have good enough pcs to where the slowdown from steam isnt noticeable
fuck you little cunt. If it were 30MB RAM I'd understand, but it's an entire fucking web browser. I don't already have one, I don't need another one, much less a botnet one, wasting 1GB+ RAM just to launch a game.
30e38e No.16601536
>>16593771
This is the correct answer.