/v/ - Happy E3

Garry is too busy shutting down/reactivating Facepunch to do anything of use.

Is there any point in making this? GMOD already has everything you could ever want, does s&box have better performance and less restrictions?

>Do you think Garry is still working on this shit or is this project vaporware at this point?

More than likely it will never come out, theres too much stuff you have to recreate and additional stuff you have to add in, It would take a few years at best to even get to the beta stage

Facepunch used to be cool

Now they are cucks

>>16589511

>Xabin

>BAN

Facepunch confirmed for prudes.

>>16589242

S&box is supposed to have real-time lua scripting in-game. So I guess the big boon is supposed to be for mod developers as they don't have to open and close the game endlessly to test their shit.

>>16589242

VPhysics is starting to show its age, the version of Source they're using is ancient. The core game is bloated down with feature creep and a bloated poorly integrated lua interpreter, Steam Workshop integration is still shoddy.etc S&Dbox uses Unreal Engine and is basically reworking everything from scratch with possibly better physics, a more intuitive mod system and format, and better lua integration.

>>16592723

The rise of Gmod Jewtube videos in the early 2010s drove cancerous faggots to the community

>>16589630

fuck you leatherhead

>Port Gmod to Unreal

>all source mods would need to be ported

>everything will need to be recoded from scratch

>Gmod Tower already tried to do this and it was a massive failure

All you had to do was get Source2 Garry, we already know backwards compatibility with sourcemod and HLMODS is supposed to be part of it

>>16592914

They considered Source 2 and came to the conclusion that it wasn't a significant enough upgrade from Source 1 and Valve was doing a shit job at delivering anyways They're not wrong

>>16589327

>/ourguy/?

>>16592723

>>16592856

>115 Dumb

Seems like a pretty nice place.

>>16592918

Well that's because as it exists now, Source2 is a half finished engine made mostly for dota 2. Honestly if Valve would pull the eSports pole out of its ass for around 10 seconds Source 2 could be a competent engine.

>>16592939

Valve isn't doing shit anymore. Source 2 is such a stagnant project it might as well be vaporware

>>16592950

Honestly, I suspect that Source 2 might have ended up with the same issue of Source.

Being: If you try to throw anything that isn't half life 2 at Source engine it has a stroke and starts crying. I can only imagine how much worse it is when Source 2 is based around a watered down RTS game where you only control one thing at a time

>>16592974

I'm not saying you can't do a lot with source, I'm saying it tends to sperg out if you do shit that isn't half-life in it.

>>16592989

Well, one of the few times I tried to do something that wasn't a fps game, a platformer, Source constantly whined about the UI and the camera, along with a custom soundtrack feature (read: in game, not preloaded) I had attempted to implement would cause the game to crawl to a stop.

It was actually faster to offload it as a custom file to be downloaded from a local server than having the files be loaded from a different directory.

>>16592996

IIRC hasn't someone made a platformer with Source before?

>>16592999

Considering it is source, probably, but at the same time, I think my point still stands.

>>16592856

>Playing TTT before Machinima ecelebs was playing with a bunch of college dudes who would come up with the most elaborate ways to stir chaos

>Playing TTT after Machinima ecelebs was just underages shooting at people because "he was following me, only the traitor would do that" and other stupid fucking reasons

I miss pre-jewtube Source games.

>>16593098

Valve absolutely has the capacity to be competent.

Unfortunately all of valves focus is locked on esports shit and dota

>>16593177

>Valve absolutely has the capacity to be competent.

At this point that's doubtful. I think they had a big turnover of competent staff. Their track record for not meeting deadlines or delivering on anything has become so bad lately their name has become poison to competent developers

>>16593177

>all of valves focus is locked on esports shit and dota

valve isn't really focused on anything at all

it just makes half assed attempts to stick its finger into every pie and fails over and over again

>tries to get into the game engine race against UE4 and unity 5, fails to deliver anything at all after 5 years

>tries to get into the console market with steambox, flops hard

>tries to get into VR, gets stomped on by oculus and HTC vive

>tries to get into the hearthstone/ other esports card games bandwagon with artifact, nobody plays it

>makes and almost finishes left 4 dead 3 and then just bins the entire game because their management decided they were bored of it

valve is paralyzed by laziness and horrible mismanagement of almost every facet of their company except for steam itself

if they weren't kept afloat by the literally infinite well of cash that is steam they would have gone broke and sank beneath the waves long ago

>>16593204

Valve is still make millions of dollars off of their Dota tournament every year alone because of their compendium. Not to mention the other micro transactions. They'd still be one of the largest game publishing companies without Steam.

>>16593177

Have you missed the absolute failure that is Artifact?

https://steamcharts.com/app/583950#All

On top of that, Valve is getting its ass handed on the subject of auto chess.

>Dota auto chess (arcade mod) comes out and is suddenly popular because streamers play it occasionally.

>Valve tries to work together with the author, he fucks off and announced his auto chess game coming to epic store at e3.

>Riot (League of Legends) also announced their own auto chess to be released this year.

The problem isn't "esports shit and dota". It's that the only care about extracting as much wealth as possible from games you're meant to be addicted to forever.