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32095b  No.16537758

>David Jaffe just retcon Kratos into a boy loving pedophile bisexual

>Sweet tooth a fag now according to David Jaffe

You can’t make this shit up

7b831b  No.16537761

Are you just going to keep making reactionary threads over one fucking stupid twitter post?


9ded7d  No.16537764


f619a4  No.16537766

>>16537758

Who cares. There's so much worse shit to be mad about than Jaffe saying Kratos is gay


53f9e1  No.16537769

Jaffe literally does not care about any consistency with his games or series, he's less of a pusher for progress than he is someone who will let anyone pushing it walk right through.

2nd pic was also partially ironic but how could an autist like you ever realize that.


32095b  No.16537770

>>16537766

>>16537761

>There's so much worse shit to be mad about than Jaffe saying Kratos is gay

>Major game dev outright endorsed pedophile rights in the name of lgbt pride month


32095b  No.16537774

>>16537769

Jaffe come across as a male version of a biter feminist that still mad no guys asked her to the prom. As much as he likes to make fun of incel. It fits the incel Archetype.


f619a4  No.16537775

>>16537770

>>Major game dev

>Important


5f00c1  No.16537777

Isn't Kratos Nordic now?


53f9e1  No.16537780

>>16537774

>Jaffe come across as a male version of a biter feminist that still mad no guys asked her to the prom. As much as he likes to make fun of incel. It fits the incel Archetype.

???

We're hitting deviantart levels of autism here, no one mentioned feminism or incels just leftists, you're heavily projecting shit extremely fast, now I suggest you improve the quality of your thread or get ready for dubs.


435cf4  No.16537784

File: 2b0ecc2deb5f9c9⋯.jpeg (67.78 KB, 800x443, 800:443, read it.jpeg)

>>16537770

>>16537758

They already did it during TGA


f619a4  No.16537789

>>16537784

Is that a kid? I cant tell


519f74  No.16537790

>>16537761

Welcome to the new t/v/itter


066994  No.16537793

Jaffe is a literal jew


435cf4  No.16537794

File: dd4cb29bc5ea026⋯.jpeg (69.26 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, judge.jpeg)

>>16537789

Yes, those are voice actors.


7344d4  No.16537798

You know that we already have a gamer gate thread, right?


32095b  No.16537799

>>16537775

>>16537766

>>16537790

>Stop making fun of game journalists goy it’s helping them

>Stop criticizing game devs they are not important

>Stop Talking about the stupidity of the industry it’s 4D chess shilling

Is this reset era idea of damage control?


435cf4  No.16537802

>>16537799

Nah its just PC fags knowing that anything from sony is gay by default. Even Kojima.

I personally know a lot of people who would defend God of War to death just because its an exclusive.


e1d453  No.16537806

>>16537774

>As much as he likes to make fun of incel. It fits the incel Archetype.

No shit nigger, the vast majority of "incel critics" are incel themselves, if not even worse subhumans.

Now stop making these shit threads. Fuck twitter.


b60191  No.16537807

>>16537758

He's obviously fucking around dude I mean Jesus Christ


b60191  No.16537810

>>16537784

>>16537794

Oh my God I remember seeing this live, did anybody save the "World Peace Season 2" edit?


32095b  No.16537812

>>16537802

there a Bizarre Reverse psychology operation on /v/ recently. You can’t make fun of devs or game journalists without someone crying it’s 4D chess helping them. It’s like the whole ignoring feminists will make them go away but dumber.


32095b  No.16537820

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16537807

>He's obviously fucking around dude I mean Jesus Christ

No one form California joking when posting #LGBTpride month shit. University of California student unironically organizes a NAMBLA rally. Californians will be the first ones to normalize pedo rights world wide.


f619a4  No.16537821

>>16537799

I never implied that. It's just lazy to make a thread about this non-issue


32095b  No.16537827

>>16537821

>Pro pedo SJW game dev

>Non issue

This is damage control.


da21cd  No.16537832


f619a4  No.16537836

>>16537827

>Damage control

Not every anon that doesn't care about what some Game Dev says is a shill. It's just so predictable that it's tiring to read a thread about the slightest gay shit they do


53f9e1  No.16537838

Now watch me get these dubs


6c832b  No.16537839

> I'm bored.


32095b  No.16537841

>>16537838

Those are not even good dubs. You can do better


53f9e1  No.16537843

>>16537839

Hi bored I'm dubs.

>>16537841

These?


53f9e1  No.16537844


8cf1a8  No.16537865

>>16537758

>Greeks were total homos and pedos so it's okay for homos and pedos to exist today

>let's ignore we can't source any of these claims and if you dare mention we "mistranslated" some things I'll call you antisemitic

Oy vey.


9c15c7  No.16537875

>Lefties, despite not knowing jackshit about Greek history and mythology, keep pushing for the "dude Greek warriors were literally gay so I win the argument lol, you should suck dicks all day :^)" meme

Faggotry in ancient Greece was frowned upon, you could lose your fucking citizen rights for being a homo, you would be forced to live outside the city walls. Western historians are retards who mis-translate shit. The relationship between a young boy and a man was comparable to a father-son relationship. They didn't fuck each other.


147f8f  No.16537876

>>16537758

Pedophilia is ok.


8cf1a8  No.16537880

>>16537875

>Western historians are retards

They're race traitors and Jews, so it's par for the course they push this disgusting agenda. They're the same vermin that call nigger "kingdoms" empires and pretend the chimps are our equals.


179eb4  No.16537883

File: cb98213497760e0⋯.png (171.72 KB, 687x274, 687:274, e2s.png)

>tw*tter

who the fuck cares


cbbf0e  No.16537890

Quarter pounder pls go and stay go, only fags care about twitter.


7344d4  No.16537891

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>>16537875

If it was so frowned upon then why was there tons of faggot merch?


9c15c7  No.16537894

>>16537891

>why is there degenerate art?! This is proof of how accepted faggotry was!

I bet retards just like you in 1000 years will look at archaeological findings of current-day furshit and claim furfaggotry was accepted and a normal thing.


87c996  No.16537895

>>16537891

>tons

Its a tiny amount; there's barely any at all.


8cf1a8  No.16537898

>>16537891

Out of nearly 80,000 pieces of Greek pottery recovered only about 400 depict homosexual acts. That's like someone in the future taking all the movies made in the 20th century and pointing at those with homosex in them to claim we were all faggots.


fe882a  No.16537907

Why do certain faggots really want to make everyone in media gay?

>guy has unbreakable brotherly bonds with another guy

<THEY'RE TOTALLY GAY GUYS

>Jack Reacher bangs at least one woman every book

<HIS OVERLY OBVIOUS MACHISMO IS OBVIOUSLY JUST A COVER FOR HOW GAY HE HIS GUYS

>Person is muscular, fit and takes good care of his physical state

<TOTALLY GAY

>Samurai Jack

<SUPER FUCKING GAY GUYS


6126a6  No.16537909

File: 8d88226cf7d6451⋯.jpg (10.37 KB, 245x97, 245:97, cap.jpg)

>>16537891

This is extremely easily explained as the guy(s) who made these pots was a fag and wanted some ye olde porn.


776982  No.16537913

>>16537758

>david jaffe: solid snake is gay

It doesn't work like that, Nigger. You can't just retcon characters that you don't even own.


8cf1a8  No.16537920

>>16537907

>certain faggots

Replace that with "all faggots", and it's because they are mentally ill and being a faggot is their whole identity.


8cf1a8  No.16537927

>>16537924

>since homosexuality can be propagandized upon people and have them converted

Faggots reproduce through child rape.


ee5a0e  No.16537929

>>16537875

It was frowned upon in most of Greece. Athens was the center of faggotry and perhaps the Delphi due to the whole Appollo worshipping thing and Apollo was the most flaming of queens when he wasn't trying to secretely bone his own sister own cuck a man out of his tomboy wife. Thing is, all those niggers think "Athens / Attica = Captial of Greece so that means it was true back then as well" instead of realizing that every city was its own state with its own laws and ethics, with the only things uniting greece were the common language, coin, mythology, education and origins.

But then again, these are the same faggot who believe all those pornos from the 70s that were done in Lesvos about a guy getting it on with two women after they made on the word "Lesbian" are actually propaganda to snuff out gays instead of jokes we've been doing since the dawn of time.

>>16537894

Probably, just like modern day degenerate deviant art shit, some poor potter in ancient greece was commisioned and probably a pretty penny to make these for some fatso homo who lived in the outskirts of the city. No matter how many years and civilizations change, some things remain the same.


8c5f97  No.16537930

>>16537907

Desperation for validation


8c5f97  No.16537933

>>16537913

I think he may have been trying to mock the concept of people trying to dictate a character's sexuality by pitching an even more outrageous relationship pairing.


ee5a0e  No.16537936

>>16537933

The dubs of truth finally speak. It's a shame Jaffe has the history he has because now when he tries to joke like we do, it falls flat.


ae6acc  No.16537950

>>16537920

Not all fags my man


ae6acc  No.16537991

>>16537961

Who let this small talking child in here.


8cf1a8  No.16537993

File: fa35e63d01450f7⋯.webm (6.24 MB, 384x216, 16:9, gay community.webm)

>>16537991

#NotAllFags


735048  No.16537996

>>16537758

>beta bugmen complaining about the alpha bugmen not getting pegged by transexuals


b756ca  No.16538006

>>16537893

Literally the post above yours, retard.


b17a6f  No.16538019

File: c2eca399ebe42d2⋯.jpg (68.45 KB, 1080x689, 1080:689, ebc63a55c566d6bb37655e1592….jpg)

>>16537936

This is called Poe's Law. Unfortunately in this fucked up world you cannot say anything that can't be construed as legitimate extreme position vs. mockery of it.


b6875d  No.16538023

But the Greek gods were a gaggle of degenerates. I can’t find fault here. And I haven’t cared about Twisted Metal since 2.


df0ea5  No.16538027

Threadly reminder that after the porn ban all the trash on Tumblr migrated to Twitter. Stop giving subversive platforms filled with goons attention.


3b8492  No.16538032

Reading comprehension is a skill you sorely lack, OP.


ee5a0e  No.16538038

>>16538023

>Muh degenerates

>Zeus was a two-timing Master Roshi-type pervert with Sean Connery's seduction skills

>Hades was super loyal to his wife and was a vanila hikineet

>Hercules' entire fucking arc is about choosing Virtue over Vice and even when he "murders" his children, he remains loyal to his wife and their marriage until years after he completed his tasks and was pardoned

>Athena wanted the dicks of the greatest and most sophisticated warriors of antiquity like Ulysses

>Hermes had a proper marriage with kids

>Hera had kids despite being a jealous bitch

>Afrodite wanted to get dicked by the most manly of men hence why she cheated on Hepaistus with Ares

>Hephaistus wanted to just do create giant robots and have sex with his wife

>Hestia and Demeter were prudes but even they had kids from marriage

>Dionysus, despite him being the god of wine and festivities, he didn't became a degenrate fuck until the romans recreated him into Bacchus

<Poseidon was a /monster/poster and a furry/scaly/ whatever who made his dreams come true and called Lovecraft's abominations "children"

<Apollo was the most flamming of faggots yet he somehow had a sucessful marriage and had a son

<Artemis was a raging super-dyke that actively hated men and women who mocked her but even she once succembed to the dick

<Zeus once fucked Ganymedes which apalled everyone and the irony was not lost in the storytellers

Clearly degenerates tenbux-kun.


f15da3  No.16538042

File: 5cf23f22a2248fa⋯.gif (594.4 KB, 320x180, 16:9, gvwEB.gif)

>>16537784

>>16537794

Teal'c, I'm disappoint


aa35b8  No.16538048

>/v/ doesnt understand based jaffe humour

LMAO


64968e  No.16538052

>>16537907

All masculinity must be destroyed due to its inherent toxicity.

may I interest you in some free interracial tranny porn, courtesy of (((mind geek))).


c8c350  No.16538056

>>16537820

>Californians will be the first ones to normalize pedo rights world wide

It may actually be Spain, they have at least one major party pushing it.


a0254d  No.16538057

>>16538042

>>16537784

>>16537794

>tfw Teal'c turned into a massive faggot due to current year.

I miss the 90s. This wouldn't have happened with 90s mind sets.


a9e898  No.16538074

That's just being an ancient Greek, though.


185950  No.16538114

File: aa3cec1fc2a8fcd⋯.png (400.78 KB, 600x600, 1:1, viv_hates_the_gay.png)

STOP BEING GAY YOU GAY GAMERS!


210988  No.16538153

File: 855d088f40a02d0⋯.jpg (25 KB, 294x265, 294:265, 855d088f40a02d0c2d99d8ea3d….jpg)

What exactly is wrong with a loving relationship between consenting adults, consenting children, consenting animals, consenting inanimate objects and consenting corpses? Just so long as we understand that adult women must sign a new contract to express consent every 10 seconds, everything else is fair game.


8cfa1b  No.16538188

>>16537764

>>16537761

Fuck off resetera


185950  No.16538194

File: dab15d52dc75d78⋯.png (310.25 KB, 465x406, 465:406, shiggy.png)

>>16538170

>Goy

>>>/leftypol/


90f312  No.16538230

File: b3c72afe0ee7fc6⋯.webm (7.41 MB, 852x480, 71:40, anon visits feminist conv….webm)

>>16537784

>>16537794

jesus fucking christ


93074c  No.16538269

>>16537836

Shill harder pedofaggot


b4ab74  No.16538281

>>16537770

didn't snapchat do the same thing with the "Love knows no age" filter? And they specifically mentioned it was pride month.

Are they being honest about their intentions now?


64968e  No.16538285

>>16538281

>Are they being honest about their intentions now?

Why wouldn't they be? Nobody's killing them or putting up any real resistance.

The only group that executes faggots for their crimes against nature is vilified in the (((west)))

Baste right wingers want to destroy Iran because it oppresses women and sexual deviants minorities.


b17a6f  No.16538286

File: 6dd0500dba29973⋯.jpg (112.86 KB, 1360x597, 1360:597, 1224261832905.jpg)

>>16538281

It's pretty worrying that this is allowed to slide.


ce3681  No.16538294

File: ba3f883af1789d6⋯.jpg (73.91 KB, 1000x559, 1000:559, KH in a nutshell.jpg)


6c8722  No.16538299

>>16538281

If they are, it's going to be a huge fucking mistake. Kikes at the top of the power structure keep each other in line with blackmail. They want to make a shady illegal deal with someone, they film him fucking a 12 year old at Skull & Bones' private island or at Comet Ping Pong, then they let him film them doing the same, and then they make a pact not to release the videos so long as neither fucks over the other. If pedophilia becomes accepted their entire blackmail power structure crashes with no survivors because there's hardly any reason left to not fuck over each other.


64968e  No.16538305

>>16538299

>bumplocked after this post

Nice one cakejew, I'd expect nothing less.


59ff3f  No.16538314

>>16538299

The (((parasites, kikes etc.))) could just transition to blackmail using the videos filming the terrible procedure of adenochrome extraction from humans.


b17a6f  No.16538315

>>16538305

>Seafoam hidden 15 minutes /v/ Bumplocked thread #16537758

Way to make an ass of yourself.


42e01b  No.16538319

File: 465a0e9ceb0d5fe⋯.jpg (19.5 KB, 242x193, 242:193, 953bb1645e3d7986e3b4d963de….jpg)

>made Needles Kane gay

???


980441  No.16538537

File: 4de7d6f33caff66⋯.jpg (73.49 KB, 462x650, 231:325, bronson2.jpg)

>>16537893

theognis, elegiac poems book 1, lines 1341-50

plato, symposium lines 179D-180B

plato, phaedrus lines 255A-256A (and the entire rest of it)

xenophon of ephesus, anthia and habrocomes book 1, lines 14.7-15.3, book 3 lines 2.1-2

anonymous epitaph to the poet ibycus from the palatine anthology

ovid, metamorphoses, book 10 lines 140-160

just off the top of my head without handwaving, but read fucking gibbon for all the documented liasions (at least rumored) for the roman emperors. see also harmodius and aristogeiton, apollo and hyacinthus, anything about orpheus, etc.

faggotry appears consistently for hundreds of years all throughout greece from completely different authors and artists working in the same tradition. the fact that it is so prevalent among the slim fraction of art that has survived should illustrate how common it was throughout the whole

>>16537898

[citation needed] but regardless you're subtracting 400 painted potsherds out of the total number both painted and unpainted you fucking silly head


6c8722  No.16538547

File: 2254fc62406ab4a⋯.png (333 KB, 1277x1879, 1277:1879, anon on faggotry in greece….png)


570946  No.16538568

>kratos is a gay pedophile now

>tfw that wasn't his wife's son in the latest game but his personal sex slave

There is massive shitposting potential here you guys.


ee5a0e  No.16538574

>>16538568

Go back Shadman, your faggot-filled GoW comic porn isn't becoming a reality.


42e01b  No.16538740

File: 6c53fd1f056f7a9⋯.png (82.22 KB, 1198x700, 599:350, 1e8b591d65c8ff721b36e5ddd5….png)


980441  No.16538901

File: 28f7931f828e0e4⋯.jpg (153.33 KB, 701x960, 701:960, bronson3.jpg)

>>16538547

>>16538740

both of these posts are somewhat correct despite excruciating historical illiteracy. the only one that's completely right has hercules's ass.

alexander wasn't gay, mostly because macedonians weren't greeks and despite all their larping they didnt seem to inherit athenian sexual convention.

but there's still an unambiguous trend of fanciful boyfucking among greek literati that the romans partly inherited, although they were far more protective of the traditional family unit and it probably wasn't as common outside the nobility, although it still showed up pretty frequently in their literature. throughout greece and rome homosexuality was scandalous only so far as you were a bottom, and this accusation alone is an incredibly common basis of insult because it's naturally effeminate–but on the other hand there was a macho sex ethic about dominating other men and subjecting them to your sexual will by fucking them, which, while decadent, was also a massive flex. even with women the act of receiving was emasculating–hence why cunnilingus was scandalous as well. but the fact that plato went on for entire dialogues about twinks accounts for why pederasty effectively penetrated art for hundreds of years, and yes, there is no ambiguity that pederasty was largely an athenian thing too–but it traveled wherever there was a hellenic influence at alarming speed, and it even penetrated fiction. that post saying the openly homosexual couldn't own property sounds like complete bullshit from what i know and i can't find a single source on it after a short search.

unless you want to split hairs about "faggotry", greek homosexuality was pretty clearly codified and actual male-male relationships between individuals of the same age and rank weren't common and were often mocked. but they absolutely loved twinks, and the pederastic relationship was seen as excessively masculine because actual penetration was prohibited on paper and it was a means of educating the younger man to be an effective lover and husband later on. on that note, hercules, who the romans loved, had multiple male sexual partners. any of the bullshit about it being a nonsexual relationship is absurd because we've got a fairly large amount of pottery showing the sucking and fucking, although the idea that it "should be" exclusively intercrural isn't wrong either. the names of the two parties in a pederastic relationship were the erastes (top) and eromenos (bottom), two masculine participle nouns quite literally meaning lover and the one being loved–and this is love in the passionate, sexual sense, since the god eros imparts feeling of savage sexual desire that can lead to rape just as much as to true affection. plus its worth noting that the eromenos is exclusively a younger man, and there's a huge emphasis that the ripest era of boyhood is around 16 when you're girly enough for man and man enough for girls–which is exactly how ovid describes narcissus in the metamorphoses.

also, these gay relationships were also almost always in parallel with straight ones, which is why so many greeks were recorded to have "male lovers" (eromenoi) and then actual wives with whom they fathered children.

tl;dr greco-roman faggotry was more codified bisexuality and emphasized masculine intimacy, but effeminacy was despised, and the only almost universally accepted form of gay relationship was with a younger man who receives while he's still "young enough" to do without being seen as a poof.


b1ce5f  No.16539010

File: 48723cd53222186⋯.jpg (83.79 KB, 642x507, 214:169, Jesus had a tiny dick.jpg)

>>16537898

>Out of 80,000 pieces of Greek pottery recovered

>Only 400 depict homo acts

For consistencies sake, you should probably include statistics for how many of those pieces of pottery were complete or nearly complete and not just shards - and of those - how many had any depictions at all on them - and then of those, how many had depictions of human interaction.

And then you'd still be left with the question of how many pieces there once were that were discovered, and then destroyed due to accidents or were purposefully destroyed/defaced/"lost" because it offended the Christian/Muslim/Societal sensibilities or was seen as corruptive of the perception of the ancient Greeks and their contributions. The British Museum used to have entire sections of their collection under permanent lock and key because they were deemed too lewd for public viewing under the Obscene Publications Acts of the Victorian era.


c4d704  No.16539207

Greeks practiced sodomy and pederasty, but weren't faggots. The notion of girly men didn't exist: at the same time, Achilles was an aryan superhero, but fucked his male friend Patroclos (alongside his female slave Briseides).

Girly men is judaism.


682388  No.16539412

File: c6bb59603ac8735⋯.jpg (1.32 MB, 4460x2908, 1115:727, c6bb59603ac87356dd61ef9fab….jpg)

>>16539207

>but fucked his male friend Patroclos

This never occurred in the Iliad. Not only that, they didn't even kiss in the Iliad. They were simply buds. The retconning of Achilleus as gay simply because he had a best friend is 100% current year GRIDS propaganda. You should kill yourself for propagating such propaganda, unless you are /trannypol/ in which case you should kill yourself anyway.


54b879  No.16539429

>>16537758

Who is David Jaffe? The second one looks like he's being sarcastic though

>Yeah sure, he's gay the moment sweet tooth and solid snake are having butt sex in an ice cream truck.


50035d  No.16539430

>>16539429

the faggot who made Drawn to Death


54b879  No.16539439

>>16538537

>the fact that it is so prevalent among the slim fraction of art that has survived should illustrate how common it was throughout the whole

That's like saying gays make up 20% of characters in modern media, so clearly 20% of people in modern times are gay.

In modern times there are people intentionally misrepresenting greek mentorships as gay affairs. Probably to justify it today.


980441  No.16539477

File: 38b3510c9a10765⋯.jpg (655.87 KB, 2048x1536, 4:3, bronson.jpg)

>>16539412

no. although that kind of pederastic relationship would be totally anachronistic for the time of homer and the iliad, it was all the way back in plato's day that the homosexual narrative with achilles appeared

>>16539439

greek pederasty was always erotic but nonetheless educational. the best case you can make is that in absence of any sources outright stating how common pederasty was, you can't extrapolate your numbers from art alone, which is completely fair. but the fact that it appears so much in both fiction and non-fiction insinuates that wasn't unusual among the literate, at the very least. there's also no discernible reason why pederasty would be overrepresented because, unlike the modern day, there was no political motive for doing so.


4e703c  No.16540153

So let me get this straight:

>Jaffe get's butthurt at "homophobes"

>So decides to go "kratos is bi! take that homophobes!"

>Fags cheer even though it was an obvious jest

>surprise, it was a jest

>"actually Kratos is not gay or bi, I just said that to piss off the homophobes!"

>homos more anally wrecked then usual despite familiarity with anal wreckage, because their cause was used just to virtue signal against mean internet folks

>Jaffe doubles down that Kratos is not bi

>everyone is now upset with him

Did I get this right? Why is he so retarded? How could he not predict this was going to happen if he didn't commit?


910d73  No.16540226

>>16539477

>homosexual narratives with achilles appeared

so where exactly? The Iliad is THE Achilleus narrative.

Again, not only is there zero homosexual activity between Achilleus and Patroclus in the Iliad, but Homer in the Iliad repeatedly states that heterosexuality is natural when discussing the Trojans and their wives. Now whether or not that is a later insertion by another author, who knows, but that is what the Iliad we have says, and stylistically and thematically it is a very consistent book.


980441  No.16540614

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>>16540226

i shouldn't have said narrative. the homosexual "reading" of achilles and patroclus's relationship appeared with plato (might have come earlier? but plato's symposium this is the big landmark regardless). you can check the lines i posted from one of my earlier posts for the exact passage. there's absolutely nothing in the trojan cycle itself that makes them homosexual, and i personally don't entertain the homo version as "plausibly canon" because as far as i know conventional pederasty wasn't even a thing in the 8th century.

i wanna stay away from ascribing the quality rightness or wrongness to this particular reading since that's just how myths develop. many greek legends have numerous different versions, probably a lot more than were even recorded. i'd just call this 'plato's version'. but the bottom line is that this is all shit about the gay relationship came about 400 years after the iliad was written. although by and large a lot of greek lit includes indisputably homosexual relationships, there are some friendships like that between achilles/patroclus and alexander/hephaestion that are almost definitely just victims of revisionism


bcec89  No.16546252

just stop caring mate only the first one was any good anyway.




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