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>>16532843

Fable 3 kinda tried to do this if I remember right.

Do you just wanna fuck Soul Edge anon?

>be very insistent on just smacking people over the head with your sword

>it becomes a hammer

>>16532871

>try to revert the change

>attempt cutting things with your hammer

>hammer starts mocking your dumb ass

<new title unlocked village idiot

>>16532868

no sweety, swords are phallic objects and a symbol of the patriarchy etc etc

What does a living weapon or any of the games you've listed have to do with roleplaying video games?

You either don't know what an RPG is or you forgot to mention why do you even want a living weapon in a roleplaying video game, because this sounds like a promising feature for an action video game, to remove all that retarded linear gear progression and inventory management.

Semantics aside, there is already an RPG with living weapons in it, and at least one of them evolves: Ingress' Teeth in Planescape: Torment.

Also, the only weapon worse than a sword is a rapier, swords suck. I'd rather use a sling made from my own underwear if I had nothing but a sword.

>>16532940

You've never seen swords outside of vidya have you?

>>16532843

Well you would have to premake all the forms, even if it was procedural you still have to make the parts fit, but it could work. It's not really all that different from RPGs like FF7 where Materia levels up independent of the party. It gets trickier with world building, what does a living weapon want?

The answer decides the whole flavor of the weapons for the game.

>>16532950

What's with the reddit-tier response? Do you have an argument? You can strap a sword to an end of a sturdy stick and it will already be infinitely better than getting stabbed.

I want a game where you play a living weapon with the only way to change your stats is to end up in another NPC's hands.

It's called Dark Cloud.

>>16532970

I just meant that you obviously don't train with swords or have an interest in weaponry as your response makes no fucking sense. Relax champ and try not to fit in so hard on your first day here :^)

>>16532991

Uh-oh, I didn't know I'm dealing with a medieval-soldier-turned-timetraveler. Can you go back and tell me to buy some Bitcoin?

Dark Cloud did this but less retarded and also better.

Fuck you

>>16532999

Swords let you pick fights better than spears, mr. I watch shitty videos on youtube and think I'm mr. good weapons man

>>16532999

It's just HEMA and Iaido, friend.

>>16532999

Your first post is just shit in general, since we're talking changing weapons like Souledge then it'll turn into a spear if you hate swords. So the whole sword quip does not make sense on it's face.

>>16533010

>Swords let you pick fights better than spears

Vague and wrong.

>mr. I watch shitty videos on youtube

Strawman. This would be better applied to the guy who's involved in a literal larp.

>>16533027

<I don't like one particular opinion so the whole post is shit

The absolute state of domestic swordfighters.

>>16533038

nigger the second you walk into a forest you're gonna have a bad time with your dumbass pole that's just a big arrow

>>16532843

yes

>>16533043

That's what a secondary weapon is for. Or a forest fire. I wasn't promoting spears to begin with, it's not a good 1v1 weapon.

>>16533038

How does pointing out that your sword quip didn't make sense make me a domestic sword fighter? Your post formatting is just shit m8, deal with it.

>>16533108

If you're already dealing with a big unweildy stick, what good do you think would adding an axehead that'll get stuck in shit you swung at.

There's a good reason swords are so iconic, it's because trees are fuckin everywhere

>>16533121

Halberdiers were mainly in field formations so that they could rip a careless Knight off his horse, crack him open like a crab, and shank him to death. In cities or castles where you can guard narrow paths, they are also quite effective. Stabbing, slashing, bashing, and hacking weapons for the more common man.

>>16533154

I mean, I think you get what I'm getting at, so I'm not really sure what we're arguing about.

>>16533043

Dude, I walk around in the forest with 10 foot long pole saws and power pruners all the damn time. Yeah it sucks, but it is very doable even at a good pace.

>>16532937

Songi was such a pain in the ass.

So Pokémon?

>>16533108

>But then we come full circle and you admit that you'd rather have a sword.

If we went full circle, we're back at the sling.

Sword isn't the only short weapon. You can have a dagger on your belt for finishing off toppled opponents and such. For everything else an axe, a hammer or a flail would be more consistently useful. Sword doesn't excell at anything either, outside of slaughtering peasants for a speed record.

Am I wrong here?

>>16533189

Ok, but what if you got jumped?

>>16533307

Well damn, might actually have to give Vagrant Story a spin I guess.

isn't that just pokemon but with Saya no Uta aesthetic

>>16533333

nice numbers

>>16532984

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>>16533284

You poke them or use the shaft to block.

Or retreat back to a better position.

I'm really feeling it!

>>16532904

Bro, what if your dick changed shape and color based on who you fuck? Whoah.

>>16533445

That's called crotch rot.

>>16533378

So you're basically fucked then.

Has anybody started talking about how they'd fuck/marry/impregnate their gun/sword yet or am i too late.

>>16532843

You could just play Prototype, where you ARE the living weapon.

>>16533108

>the tragic way polearms become smaller and less-threatening as their role on the battlefield diminishes and become relegated to ceremonial roles

>>16532843

Sure. I don't see why not. It sounds like a fine premise to me. But if you boil it down the weapon itself is kind of unimportant, since it's the player actions that really determine how they evolve. It's totally doable, but it might be tricky figuring out exactly what kinds of actions should turn the evolution one way or another.

>>16532859

Actually came in this thread to post this. Fable 3 had weapons that adapted and gained properties based on what you did. So cast a lot of magic it becomes a better magical focus and so on.

Unfortunately the changes are not gradual and were locked at progress points of the game. I think the concept would be able to be done, but the developers would just have to be Not Retarded about it.

>>16533689

>miss with every melee swing

>evolves into a flame thrower

>>16532859

>>16533666

A big problem with Fable 3's system was that the weapons would usually end up looking the same, because for example, the main story would force you to fight a shitload of undead right after your sword had another part available to change, so then you were almost guaranteed to get the part for bonus damage against undead. Me and my friends all ended up with identical weapons, except for a single part, because I jewed the housing market and ended up with one part different for having a tonne of gold.

>>16533721

Can the sentient weapon be a pervert too?

>I noticed that you started holstering me to your back.

>It's impractical.

>Not my fault you created a dumb slut character with fat tats.

>>16533797

There's no limit

>Yandere gun

>Uses all other ammo types and removes all other guns from your inventory

>Voice lines are sweet normally, but gets more and more aggressive against enemies the more you're damaged

>When you're low on health it goes full on fury mode and its fire rate goes through the roof

>>16533861

What if the living gun is Chaika?

>>16532843

I know you think this idea is really cool but it's not, you could maybe make an indie game using this but I doubt it can sustain a proper game as this idea would just be a minor mechanic.

>>16533905

What if you play the sentient living weapon instead of the wielder? You can't control who uses you and how they use you. However you manipulate your wielder with insults and refusing to invoke power.

>>16532868

>no war

sounds awful, especially for the swords. for what is existence for a sword if not for battle. truly a pathetic and meaningless one that is a fate worse than nonexistence

>>16533935

Again, sounds neat when written but in a game it would be a minor mechanic unless you go out of your way to build the entire game around it or go for an abstract experience.

Look at it this way, imagine a game where you have a really powerful sword, this sword can summon other swords, these swords can act on their own depending your fighting stance, used in conjunction with your main sword or controlled independently to perform different attacks. Not only that, these swords are controlled telepathically by your character which means they can be used while standing still or during regular attack animations.

Sounds like a neat concept right? Well it is and also this game exists, it's DMCV and the sword in question is the devil sword dante. Sure, DSD is one of the best and most versatile weapon in the game and the series but it's just one of the many weapon and mechanics you can do in said game.

>I'm talking about a weapon that depending on certain conditions met you are either allowed to evolve it or it evolves on its own when said conditions are met

So it's a Pokemon that's shaped like a sword?

>>16533951

>He doesn't want a world where old man zweihander can look happily on his Loli dagger grandchildren, knowing that they never have to be chipped or dulled in some faggots spleen

You disgust me.

>>16532859

>>16533269

>>16533666

>>16533705

The weapon morphs don't actually do anything other than effect the weapon's appearance, with the sole exception being the firearm barrel, which can give it a scatter shot effect for some possibilities. Everything else is cosmetic, and it isn't even dynamic, it's just based on what morphs you have unlocked at the time you open the corresponding upgrade chest (one is picked at random), except for the rune color which does change with your morality. Incidentally, if you don't have the appropriate level (2 for the handle, 3 for the body), even the legendary weapons have a stock appearance. It's botched overall, which is a shame as the idea isn't necessarily terrible.

>>16533249

>Am I wrong here?

Yes.

A sword is a multi-purpose, self-defense weapon. Excellent for duels, excellent for backup, easy to carry.

A flail is a shit. A joke weapon that was a filed experiment. Hammers and maces are good, but swords are faster and more versatile, and you can use it as a mace if necessary. The reverse does not hold true.

>>16532843

You are basically saying "What if Xenoblade 2 but Digimon?" which is actually a very rad concept.

Instead of having static weapons that only evolve by statistics and instead of only having partners that do the fighting for you, a combination of both would be pretty cool, where the weapon you use has a personality and is a character but changes overtime with you depending on how you use it and actually evolves.

Kinda reminds me of Upotte when a human grabs a gun to shoot it, too.

>>16532970

Mace master race

I would like a game where your weapons are alive, talk to you with dialogue options and you can become best bros with them. If you get along you get stat boosts or something. You need to use violence to get what you need, they need souls to live, so it's mutual. You could be negotiating with someone, your weapon speaks up, lacks tact thus pissing off the other person, wacky hijinks ensue. They could even throw out corny one liners during combat like Duke Nukem.

>>16533307

Problem with this game, and the system is that then you are stuck swapping weapons every different enemy type.

>>16532984

Lol, I was thinking the same as I read the OP. A Dark Cloud remaster collection would be great.

>>16537767

>>16537817

Huh, never thought of it like that. But if that's the case, that's the original Shining Wind and Shining Blade concepts before the SEGA people cucked out and went with "Swords born from your waifu's and husbandos heartsbecause the main character is a twink, manlet faggot voiced by Akira Ishida and the fujos love that shit to death" before moving to Shining Blade and have it be "a sword that is literally an ice queen waifu that evolves into the penultimate sword once you achieve Bankai".