/v/ - Video Games

>dying for fucking once

Please, God, if you are there make it happen, and while you're at it give everyone that works or worked for NISA brain cancer.

Glad to see that incompetence has consequences

>>16480788

Not everyone who works for NISA deserves cancer. There are some good people there. The problem probably lies in the higher ups, probably the president the NIS, demanding everyone to release shit as soon as possible. He's fucking incompetent. Remember when he cried about Sony not paying them enough attention whatsoever?

>>16480791

Everyone working for NISA should be beheaded with katanas and then the bloodied swords sent to other (((localization))) companies with a "NO CUTS" sign.

>>16480793

Calm down your autism anon

>>16480794

>wanting to spare the lives of the Marxist filth working at NISA

Just kill them all and let God sort them out.

>>16480795

Again, not absolutely everyone there is a bad person.

>>16480798

#NotAllMuslims

>>16480782

Isn't Disgaea a single player game? Why would it even need to restrict the number of players?

>>16480795

Some of the people who worked for NIS/A left the company to form other development studios because of disagreements or poor conditions they had under NIS/A. Would you like them dead also?

>>16480812

Everything dies someday, it's time to let go. The most important skill for a videogame enthusiast nowadays is to cope with loss.

>>16480789

While there were plans for two new Ronpa games, the guy behind the series walked out on the company, and the game that would have been in dev, if there was one at all, would've been another shitty action game like Despair Girls.

So they're probably fucked.

I'm glad, NIS games haven't been interesting to me for a few years now, and them dying might finally put an end to NISA.

>>16480823

NISA employee detected

>>16480817

You misunderstand what I mean. I was pointing out the possibility that another hit IP would come out and propel them back in the green, much like DR did.

Speaking of, when was Cold Steel 3 coming out? There may be hope for Falcomfags if they close shop before it's released.

>>16480830

Supposed to come out at the end of the year I think. I'd imagine that even if they go under before then it'll still be released full of NISA pozz just because a lot of the work is probably done by now.

Is NIS the one that got the trails of cold steel 3 translation gig? If so this doesn't bode well for that game.

>>16480823

/leftypol/ is the last one to have any rights to shit on larpers.

I did some research and I've taken notes about the number of NISA releases:

2005: 1

2006: 4

2007: 3

2008: 1

2009: 7

2010: 4

2011: 5

2012: 6

2013: 8

2014: 13

2015: 11

2016: 11

2017: 14

2018: 11

So far, they have 12 titles announced for 2019 and they might announce some more during E3 or the rest of the year.

Well I still hope the Coven Labyrinth sequel still gets released on preferably Vita, but the recent delay to spring 2020 makes me worry a bit because that's really the last good NIS game I expect from the company.

a lot of Skinwalkers confusing NIS for NISA

NIS is only bad because of NIS America localization, doesnt make NIS bad by default

>>16480869

>NISA fucking dies

>better company picks up cold steel 3

Would pretty much be the dream scenario as unlikely as it is

>>16481091

Atlus I guess?

>>16480823

>sucking NISA's cock

Is there no depth /leftypol/ would sink to? Then again, I imagine a lot of NISA employees frequent /leftypol/.

I know how awful NISA are, but what is bad about NIS aside from allowing NISA to exist and having a ton of DLC in their games (unfortunately an industry standard)? I only ever hear about how awful NISA are, so tell me about NIS.

>>16481186

>aside from allowing NISA to exist

How is that not reason enough?

>>16480782

I wouldn't be surprised if some NIS employees were sabotaging the project because of no pay because it's fucking hard to imagine this sort of incompetence with a gacha. Seeing the last titles NIS made and how badly they sold on Steam, I wouldn't be surprised if the Nip guy behind NIS closed it down and kept the only profitable part that'd no longer have to upkeep the rest. That means NISA.

I looked at NIS developed games on Steam and seeing the amount of reviews, threads, etc. besides Disgaea they really don't look good at all. 11 reviews on a game released last year? Sure, it was on all consoles, but no way in hell this didn't make some heavy losses. The rest made and released in last year besides Disgaea are below 200 reviews. That's a pretty bad number. It's hard to say how many people who buy leave a review as I doubt it's ever consistent but every percent I imagine still makes it look bad. It needs to be a fraction of a percent for the sales to be decent.

>>16481186

It's like the OP said

>Fast forward to today and the game is now delayed indefinitely, but that's not all: Reports starting to come out that NIS is not able to pay the salaries of its employees & have resorted to a MS (Moving Strike) Warrant as a last resort.

>There's also a rumor that states that, after making D4, the original Disgaea team was going to get promotions and instead, they let them go and hired a bunch of new people to take their place.

I already heard rumors in the past (around 2 or 3 years ago, cant exactly remember when) of NIS firing their dev squad and giving them a new contract, in order to avoid promoting their salaries higher.

I dont reall recall DLC jewing in case of NIS, but I've only played the PSP and Vita versions of their games. I believe only Disgaea 2 and La Pucelle Ragnarok were the sole games having DLCs (for cameo characters) in these systems.

Didn't SNK also drop them completely from managing the online store as well as handling the loc/publishing for their games? NISA has been going full vulture mode picking up ports of games that have already been released before making sure that they get money from the established fans who would want ports. They will unfortunately survive for just a bit longer.

>>16481077

NIS is a greedy as fuck company willing to throw their employees under the bus to make some cash. Try again, faggot.

>>16480791

I like NIS games, but NISA is total cancer. The best thing that could happen to Disgaea and other good NIS games is that NIS goes out of business, taking NISA with it, and the IP is sold to other companies where the buyers rehire the employees who make good NIS games. I know you fags are going to shit on me for this, but I would love to see Nintendo buy NIS. Have NoE do the localizations and re-hire a lot of NIS staff that got fucked over. Basically, have Nintendo do to NIS what it did to Monolith Soft. I bet Nintendo could pick up NIS for cheap and turn Switch into a serious mobile weeb console. Only thing that would scare me about that is Treehouse and 8-4 getting their hands on NIS games. But I don't think they've had the chance to fuck up too many games, they did save XC2 by shipping it off to NoE.

There is definitely demand for these niche Japanese titles. If NISA stopped localizing, the gap would be filled in very quickly. I don't think much would be lost. But NIS becoming a Nintendo second party developer would be amazing if they could keep Treehouse and 8-4 the fuck away from their games.

>>16481237

I wouldn't expect that to sell well, everyone who wanted Disgaea already bought it a long time ago. Steam release was 3 years later than the PS4 release in NA. If Disgaea 5 released 3 years ago there would be a lot more reviews. But releasing a niche game with a solid fan base 3 years later isn't going sell.

>>16480856

NISA actually hired some people from XSEED Games to work on that game, it doesnt matter much since i think most of the shekels come from the french cumsumers.

>>16481465

>rehire the employees who make good NIS games

That already happened. Most of the NIS staff left to Compile Heart I think.

Falcom will die with them

>>16480798

If those people were more competent they'd be working on serious translations and not rewriting bideo gaems, if they were morally good, they wouldn't be working for NISA

>>16481487

>Falcom will die with them

Falcom has killed itself in the west, When they fucked over xseed and went to nisa they killed xseed they will be gone very soon when nisa is gone no one will license there games in the west

>>16481479

That's good to know, thanks anon.

>>16481492

''It's the higher ups, at the very least, and they have been infested. If you have a company that is struggling to make profit, you don't spend company resources redesigning outfits because the employees have a bad personal opinion of them. If I were in control of NISA and it was having difficulties, I would be hiring people to do the quickest, most literal translations and getting localization done as cheaply as possible. Which means no rewriting things, no redoing graphics, no major edits, no changing code. Edit the script and get it done as cheaply as possible. NISA is dying because they keep spending company resources to make significant edits to a game when their only purpose is to make a video game in Japanese understandable to people who don't speak Japanese. Basically, SJWs have killed NISA because they get paid to do a lot of superfluous bullshit that doesn't make the product sell more.

>>16481492

OP is part of the localizer circlejerk. That's why he is covering for NISA, because he knows them IRL.

OP:

https://twitter.com/Theswweet

>>16481501

> they keep spending company resources to make significant edits to a game when their only purpose is to make a video game in Japanese understandable to people who don't speak Japanese.

I have no idea why localizers always rewrite the script its easier, cheaper and faster to just give us the original translation you would think the bean counters would come and give them a piece of there mind over this bullshit, But no its been this way from the start and i don't know why?

>>16481510

It's not cheaper to hire a skilled translator compared to hiring someone to write a fanfic loosely based on the game.

>>16481487

>>16481498

You are deluded as fuck, Falcom is one of the most profitable (% wise) of Japan.

>>16481477

They hired 3 people. One was literally just to get the VAs back and she dropped out when her cat died. The other two are literally whos they brought in to damage control against the people who were mad and to get their shills to defend them.

Not only that but if we're to assume NISA got CS3 in a package with Ys 8 that means NISA most likely started work on it about the time of its jap release. When they officially announced they were working on it with those people at XSEED a year plus had passed. Meaning to me they brought those people on just for that announcement.

The game is coming out in about September. Those two localizers they brought on have a year's plus of work to unfuck. Almost two full years of work in half a year. I'd be surprised if the loc wasn't shit.

>>16481501

>SJWs have killed NISA because they get paid to do a lot of superfluous bullshit that doesn't make the product sell more

People who can't create and want to have cultural influence are always inclined to superfluous behavior to justify their self-perception as intelligent. Somebody hires them for a reason though.

>>16481526

Where is that data from?

>>16481545

the internet

>>16481554

I want to know the source because everything I see from the internet is completely different from that picture.

>>16481605

It's intentionally cropped to make it look worse than it is. But there was a big drop around April 1st and it's been slowly inching its way back up. But it dropped because of dividends that were paid out which usually lowers the price of each share.

>>16481526

>>16481529

>>16481545

>>16481554

>>16481605

>>16481649

>5 days

Put that shit at max timeline or fuckoff with your faulty data you cunts.

>>16480782

What is a "(Moving Strike) Warrant"?

>>16481969

buy a bunch of shares and then you can buy shares later at some arbitrary fixed price (probably lower than what they're worth)

i'm glad nis is finally dying, they had some good games but fuck their localization company

>>16481421

The disgaea games fell for the cowtits meme since the third game, or more like they went back to it.

>>16480798

They deserve to have their children and loved ones raped by muslims and then stoned to death for being whores.

>>16482047

>So does this mean they are really dying or do they have "fuck you" lobbyist money that they can pull from?

They can sell off NISA itself and IP rights if they need to.

>>16483957

In that case at least NISA will have less things to localize, if NIS stops making new games.

>>16480789

It's already happened. Falcom.

Some extra tibits here:

>According to reports from various Japanese news outlets (and relayed through Twitter user HDKirin), Nippon Ichi Software is in dire financial straits. The development and publishing company has been suffering for quite some time due to poor sales of their titles in Japan. And now it seems, due to debilitating issues surrounding their latest mobile title Disgaea RPG, NIS can no longer afford to pay their employees:

>In order to raise enough money to pay for the development staff’s labor costs, NIS has resorted to an MS (Moving Strike) Warrant. A MS Warrant is a stock term, a method of raising funds that otherwise cannot be acquired through the normal means of borrowing from banks or investors, due to already being deficit.

>The company raises money buy selling their stocks at a cheap price. Security companies profit greatly from buying said cheaper stocks while that company’s investors are ultimately the ones who lose the most since the stocks they currently hold lose money and lead to the stock’s overall decline.

>Japanese site Ha-Navi confirms that Disgaea RPG is the main cause for this last decline that resulted in the company unable to pay wages. On March 19th of this year, the title — a collaboration effort between NIS and Forward Works (a subsidiary of Sony) — began service.

>However, since that launch the game had to undergo long-term maintenance due to its many and major issues and was taken down. Service has not been restored as of this writing. Naturally, as revenue cannot be gained from a game no longer available on the market, the company has no way to recoup their losses and pay the staff’s salaries.

>The Forward Works official blog released a statement on the issue, apologizing to players for the ongoing issue. The official Twitter account also released a status update, encouraging players who purchased paid items by March 31st to submit their inquiry to a support email account. Considering this tweet came out on May 17th, a full two months after the game launched and shut down, it seems all parties involved are reluctant to refund the money.

http://archive.is/5FfwF

https://www.dualshockers.com/disgaea-nis-financial-trouble/amp/

If nisafags and falcomfags save NIS/NISA, then I'll be livid. Please God let me have this. If not for me, then for the falcomfags that got stabbed in the back in the nihonfalcom thread, then for the nepfags that unfucked their games.

>>16485276

Their games do better on handheld devices instead of console, but they seem to have a hard on for making console games.

Instead of just focusing on Switch releases, they ventured into the mobile market when it's too late, and blew loads of money into it.

>>16485292

tfw finding your waifu in Trails of Cold Steel after not believing that people really had waifus

tfw NISA pieces of shit cuck me out of my waifu

>>16480782

I do not recall that. That sounds like such a fuck up there almost has to be subterfuge going on.

>>16485569

I can't find any reference to that bit about NIS fucking over their employees. Got proof?

>>16485569

What an odd business model.

I am quite happy for ArcSys. May their shit forever be unfucked.

>>16485575

it was just a few 2ch posts awhile back that got reported on by a few japanese blogs nothing substantial. But the fact that NIS did damage control for it and that 90% of the Disgea team left the company at the same time makes it very believable.

>>16485586

>unfucked

>when they have some of the worst DLC practices in the fighting game genre.

The only good thing about ArcSys is when they publish smaller titles

>>16485598

>fighting game genre

I haven't touched a fight game since Fighter's Destiny, but that updated my journal.

You're not lumping in brawlers along with fight games, right? I certainly am not.

>>16480788

>>16480789

You're a literal fucking retards that deserves to die.

Here's a fact for you:

NISA actually makes tons of money. NIS dying won't make them disappear. All it'll do is they'll localize even more non-NIS franchises as a result.

Lately I've been wondering… despite all the losses, NIS is still going on. Plus the president is a fucking idiot.

You know, instead of closing NIS and just enjoy all that NISA money, do you think he will keep trying to keep NIS afloat despite all its loses to the point that it could bring NISA down as well? By losing way too much money and NISA not being that profitable one year, something similar could happen.

>>16486503

I think you seem to not understand. NISA is very profitable. All that's gonna happen is NIS will go under and NISA will fuck up more licenses as a result because they won't need to license NIS games anymore. Stop your wishful thinking.

>>16486503

He must be banking hard on his relationship with the Falcom president to try to keep his companies afloat.

>>16486503

NIS killing NISA is going to be amazing.

Dance thread imminent.

>>16486463

NISA is a subsidiary of NIS, so what happens legalwise if NIS dies? The Nip will probably remain in control but without a company to ruin in Japan, he might decide to fly to America to fuck NISA over as well with his decisionmaking. You never know.

>>16486503

Why does he make all those niche games with tons of spritework when he could just be making those fags do sprites for a new Disgaea? Sure, you have to add voice lines and a story, but most of the content is typically reused anyway, the game'd be 66% done just copying shit from Disgaea 5 with little changes just like it always happened with other titles except D3>D4. Seems like far less work for more gain to me. Is he retarded, or does he just randomly try to spawn games thinking he'll maybe hit gold when his company's on the brink of death?

>>16486584

>fuck NISA over

They've been doing that for years now and yet they're still around. The French keep letting their shit slide.

>>16481421

Gust/Koei Tecmo, and they do it better*.

>>16487092

>we could have had Disgaea Warriors if NIS hadn't been stupid

>we might get it anyway and NIS will be none-the-richer for it

>>16486584

>>16486932

Again, don't you remember NISA was actually helping NIS stay alive? If anything they're the only reason why they're still alive. You shouldn't wish for NIS to die, you should wish NIS forced them to work on translating more of their games and keep them leashed by making them even busier doing PR for them on Steam so they have absolutely no time to translate any non-NIS game at the very least.

>>16486463

>parent company dies

>subsidiary flourishes

Name a single time this has ever happened in the video game industry

>>16488255

Gawker died, Kotaku survied?

>>16488308

Kotaco survived because of Univision.

>>16487220

<Ys will be freed

>Not falcom merging with NIS and NisA Proceeding to rape the everliving shit of every game Falcom releases, making both NIS and Falcom go under