/v/ - Video Games

>>16469092

fallout 1 because it came out first

Tactics

My dick

Haven't played 2 but 1 is a masterpiece and like an authentic time capsule of 50's Americana.

Neither. Play an actual good game like Chrono Trigger instead of cucked (((Western))) garbage.

>>16469158

They all look like they're wearing those fucking animu masks.

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>>16469147

Ok.

>>16469158

They are old. Who would buy them (except for fans) since you could pirate them easily?

>>16469164

My thoughts exactly. They look like kigurumi rather than people.

Both are good, but I prefer the second one.

Both are shit

>>16469227

Man Tactics was a great game, but why the

FUCK

is 76, Shelter the fucking mobile game, and Brotherhood of Steel not in shit tier?

>>16469517

Was Tactics really great, though? Or was it a decent game until St. Louis and then an awful slog that only got worse as you progressed (outside of the 1 or 2 missions where you're fighting reavers). There's nothing enjoyable about how they handled super mutants or robots.

I prefer 1, shorter more cohesive experience. talking heads are nice

>>16469253

The gameplay and engines of both are terrible in general but Fallout Tactics has great art and audio assets.

>>16469092

I couldn't get into fallout 1 becuase of how slow it is, seemed kinda shitty, never tried 2 as a result

>>16469092

1 had a better and more solid plot.

2 was a little less buggy and more mechanically sound.

>>16469227

This is undeniable bait, 76 is shit tier if not irredeemable shit tier.

The others can be debated a bit but god damn what are you doing.

I wouldn't consider either as the best Fallout. But I do consider 2 as better than 1.

New Vegas is better than the originals.

>>16470059

New Vegas is good, but it’s held back by Bethesda’s shitty engine.

>>16469092

Is this a fucking joke? Fallout 2 is fucking garbage unless you fix it with mods. There's the shitty pop culture refferences, but more importantly, there is cut content fucking EVERYWHERE. The first fucking companion that you meet joins you to save his sister from slavers… only that goes nowhere because the quest got cut. Cattle rousers quest, again one of the first ones you get, goes fucking nowhere because the part where you'd expose them got cut. Even fucking ending slides have cut content.

I don't know if you assholes only ever play it with mods that restore cut content (which turn it into a great game, to be fair) or if you simply don't remember, but vanilla FO2 is full of shit that leads fucking nowhere, plot hooks that don't get used, refferences to shit that doesn't actually exist and so on. Now, FO1 also has its fair share of cut content, but it isn't nearly as blatant about it as FO2 and maintains cohesion. FO1 is better game because of it.

>>16469092

Fallout 1. I like Fallout 2 weapons and armor variety and towns, but it has too many ebin le 50s pop references. Fallout 1 tone is bleak and less colorful and I like it.

The average quality of 1 is higher, but 2 has more stuff making it the one that I have gotten more out of.

>I don't know if you assholes only ever play it with mods that restore cut content

yep, if you hadnt written that I wouldnt even have remembered that I have never played them vanilla

>>16470700

>fucking garbage unless you fix it with mods … which turn it into a great game, to be fair

Come on anon, 'fucking garbage' is a bit hyperbolic since obviously the core gameplay is sound. I think 'moderately to severely broken' would be more accurate, and considering how many of my favorites were released in that state and eventually fixed by fans (Gothic 1/2, STALKER series, Fallout 1/2/NV, Dark Souls, VTMB, Morrowind, and many more), I'm fine with that. If mods can turn a broken game into a great game, then fuck it, a great game is a great game. The whole "if a game needs mods to fix it then it's shit" angle always reeks of bitter consolefaggotry.

Fallout one by a mile. It takes itself seriously, unlike the second game, and it has a much better story and better atmosphere.

Does it really matter? They're both exceptionally shitty games propped up by children who had no previous experience with RPGs.

>>16470700

>but more importantly, there is cut content fucking EVERYWHERE

Applies just as much to the first game. Whole fucking endings are broken because they couldn't finish the paltry amount of quests it already offers.

>>16470770

>The average quality of 1 is higher

Oh yeah, quality like ammo types not fucking working at all, or glitches that corrupt the interface and save files if you carry too much stuff.

>>16470817

>since obviously the core gameplay is sound

Both Fallout games are broken at a fundamental level. The "core gameplay" is trash.

>>16470817

Okay, I might have been a bit harsh there, but FO2 is incredibly shitty with it. Most games, when they cut content, they have the decency to at least remove the refferences to it or mask it somehow, while FO2 just leaves it all in. "Yeah, I'll help you save your sister, let's go to Den!" only there's fucking nothing in Den as the quest does not exist. And this is far from the only occassion.

>>16470894

The first game was nowhere near as in your face with it and, more importantly, I can understand cutting some content due to time/money constraits, yet in FO2, they cut important fucking shit while having enough time and money to shove in a gorillion incredibly shitty pop culture refferences everywhere.

Also you can reply to multiple people in one post, fag.

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>>16470901

You know that it's possible to reply to multiple people without making a separate post each, right?

>>16470921

>I can understand cutting some content due to time/money constraints

And yet they had a ton of money to blow on worthless voice acting from Tony Shalhoub and David Keith. This has always been and always will be a bullshit excuse. They had money, they just used it on worthless crap rather than playtesting.

>>16470921

>And this is far from the only occassion

Oh I agree completely. Vanilla Fallout 2 is a hacked up incomplete game, but with the amount of work killap put in to fix it over nearly a decade, we've got a finished product.

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>>16470901

Anon are you okay?

>>16470923

>>16470940

Got an actual argument?

>>16470943

What RPGs do you like?

>>16470951

Ultima VII and Exile III

>>16470959

>ultima

Absolute pleb.

>>16470943

Not really, no. I'm a big fan of most cRPGs published under Interplay, and obviously they aren't to your taste. That's perfectly fine by me, I feel the same way about 4X games or sportsball, for example.

>>16470943

I wasn't arguing against you in the first place. I was telling you to stop making four posts in a row for no reason.

>>16470700

>joke or not?

No, it is not. Thank you for the information.

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>>16470921

>endings broken

>cut quests references still left in

>bugs bugs

>glitches

>mods to make it playable and far better

Did this happen because of what >>16470921 said, or because Interplay's real name is InterBug?

Does the killap restoration fix all the bugs? Is it the "Restoration Project" that I have been hearing about?

I used to prefer Fallout 1 but replayed them both a few months ago and now prefer 2. Mechanically speaking it has a bunch of nice QOL improvements like being able to move NPCs out of your way, more fleshed out dialogue options for low INT runs and the car, which I also thought made travelling throughout the world more interesting. Both soundtracks are fantastic but 2 has more tracks I like. 2 having more content is also nice.

I also found the amount of pop culture references in 2 to be really exaggerated. 1 isn't much better in that regard, and even if it were, 2 still has plenty of locations and events just as tonally harrowing as most of the content in 1. The text that comes up when you first enter Modoc, coupled with the music, is probably my favourite. But apart from that there's pretty much all of Broken Hills, New Reno (goofy mafia aesthetics aside), Gecko, being able to get drugged & raped by Myron if you play as a low INT woman, the state of the Brotherhood, etc.

1 is still very good though.

>>16471055

Lefty propaganda?

>>16471061

How so?

>>16471052

2 definitely has the advantage when it comes to replayability with the nearly horizontal progression that's possible outside of the southwest corner of the map. 1 is the more cohesive experience, but the intended path of progression is very tight which works great in delivering a consistent experience your first time through, but feels overly restrained on subsequent playthroughs.

>>16471076

>responding to a blatant trannypol false flag

Come on, you're better than that.

>>16471079

I just noticed your fucking redditspacing. Suck on a shotgun you double-digit IQ turd-wrangler.

>>16471080

Asians and assorted South American mongrels fall beneath the category of "brown people," anon.

I prefer 1 over 2, but the later is objectively better than the former in terms of amount of content. What I like about the 2D games (especially 1) is that the the setting and atmosphere reflect on the gameplay and aren't just there for aesthetic. Like the world feels like a bleak, desolate wasteland. Armor and decent weapons are rare, people are hostile and horrors are committed on a daily basis.

I feel like I've made a this exact post in this exact thread earlier. Weird.

>>16471211

Hum. Curious. Thank you for the information.

>>16471211

This, I like 1 more than 2 but I also think 2 is actually better in general.

>>16469227

Ive played every fallout except 76 and tactics is by far my favorite. The engine does surprisingly well at tactical squad combat.

It only has a bad reputation because it was rushed out in a broken state by the devs but you can fix everything with user mods and patches.

They're both highly overrated pieces of hot mediocrity.

>>16471047

>cut quests references still left in

Such as?

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>>16470921

Everyone always rips Fo2 apart for the pop culture references but I just enjoyed the game for all the content and gameplay improvements it brought along with it

>>16469253

BoS had co-op and that instantly makes it great. I had a blast with a mate of mine. Do you not have friends?

>>16472537

Fallout76 had multiplayer and that instantly makes it great. I had a blast with a mate of mine. Do you not have friends?

>>16469227

better fucking not be i just got fallout 4 and was gonna start tonight. fallout 3>NV anyways

>>16472739

>MJR

Is it…

Can it finally be…

A HIDDEN GEMS THREAD???

>>16483070

>>>/reddit/

Is there a mod that makes shooting in new vegas fun? i just can't stand the feeling of gunplay in fallout 3 and nv.

>>16483496

Dev

bleak hopeless world full of technology gone awry > shitty disjointed desert full of memes and talking animals

>>16483453

Depends what your primary issues with the shooting are. I think the gunplay with energy weapons is generally satisfying, and mods like WMX and EVE can further enhance that, but if you're asking if there's a mod that fixes the general shitblivion with guns sloppiness that pervades the overall in-engine handling of ranged weapons, then no.

Neither. The UI is terrible, the combat is shit, the exploration is garbage and the writing has aged like milk. Its just hipsters that say they are good. Even the first System shock held up better and thats a DOSbox nightmare.