fe0247 No.16456815
It has been almost 6 years since the Team Fortress comics started being released. It's been over two years since the last comic was released. The team behind the comics (absolute nobodies) are saying they didn't even start on the next (last) one.
Meanwhile, as far as TF2 updates go, the last one of actual substance (as shallow as it was) got released almost two years ago now.
Valve's other pet-project, Artifact, fell flat on its face and failed hard.
Just how abysmal is it at Valve? Why the fuck are they fucking up so badly? What happened to the magic they used to have? Are they fucking retarded? And now they're releasing their own take on the Virtual Reality gimmick market even though it's quite saturated as-is and mind you they're coming into the market with the most expensive piece of hardware that there is, despite the fact that the usual VR headsets themselves are overpriced garbage that nobody wants and nobody wants to develop serious games for (with effort put into them).
Take a moment to laugh if you must, some of us must cry first for what could have been.
fe0247 No.16456821
Also, forgot to add: Does anyone remember Steam Machines or the Steam Controller, and how "universal and groundbreaking" those were said to be by Valve?
Yeah, me neither
0ff5b6 No.16456830
They bled all their talent. That's all that happened. All their decent devs and graphical artists left for greener pastures when they saw the writing on the wall and realized Gabes retarded approach to game design (Basically having everyone do their own thing on their own time until other people decide its worth continuing AKA throwing shit at a wall until it sticks) was not going to get anything done
c1817c No.16456960
Do people like these comics, though? I jumped into the most recent one that involved the classic TF mercenaries and it was a cringefest through and through, with YOU KILLED MUH MEDIC and WE'RE TEAM FORTRESS™ AND YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE MESSED WITH US, like who the fuck is this glasses bitch? Was she a new addition to the game?
c1817c No.16456961
>>16456960
Heavy's sister was the only thing worth of note in that comic, though.
8c216d No.16457009
The only reason I want the final comic is so I can finally stop caring about TF2 and Valve as a whole.
21b87c No.16457028
>>16456960
>like who the fuck is this glasses bitch? Was she a new addition to the game?
Pauling has been around for years, anon.
0ff5b6 No.16457036
>>16456960
The comics were interesting anon, it was fun seeing the wacky adventured the classes went on and the backstories and lore behind the settings on maps. Speaking of which, didn't Valve say that all fan made SFM and Gmod videos are canon?
1892c2 No.16457055
>>16456815
You're forgetting valve was the company to start lootboxes and store launchers. Fucking kikes the lot of them. pic related. Some fucking Mk Ultra shit. Think about it.
0ff5b6 No.16457073
>>16457055
>Some fucking Mk Ultra shit.
Isn't that the head of one of their employees?
c1817c No.16457084
>>16457028
Newer than Meet the Pyro? I stopped playing then.
21b87c No.16457085
4f572b No.16457087
>>16456960
Ms. Pauling is a boring bitch that people only care about for the fetish porn, and really she was only added because muh female representation
We already had teh administrator as being essentially the boss, but no we need more stronk womyn
1892c2 No.16457095
>>16457073
So? Look at the message the logo is giving you. Literally trying to control the way you brain interacts with the world through their "valve".
21b87c No.16457102
>>16457087
You're not even complaining about the right things with Pauling.
>>16457095
You're retarded
1892c2 No.16457106
>>16457102
Whatever you say man. Typos happen. Have fun with your daily dose of mind control.
21b87c No.16457121
1892c2 No.16457177
>>16457121
I do the same anon but at least be conscious of the reality of video gaming. Bread and Circuses.
21b87c No.16457185
c1817c No.16457187
>>16457087
Honestly there isn't enough Heavys Sister/fempyro porn to justify looking up TF2 porn.
1892c2 No.16457199
>>16457185
No real reason to and i don't have the omnipotence of a god to awaken you to the reality of your situation.
21b87c No.16457204
1892c2 No.16457223
>>16457214
It wasn't for the hell of it. It was a protest of all the e celeb threads staying up on cuckchan until the mods favorite e-celeb Pro Jared fucked some roastie and sent dick pics to his fans. If the board is going to be shit anyways, why not let 1 or 2 threads that involve video game culture stay up?
4d4a19 No.16457280
>>16456815
These comics were only as good as the devs' ability to keep them in-house. They were always going to become one person's self canonized fanfiction with tumblr humor. I think they stopped being good after Loose Canon, since they started making MUH LORE and MUH AUSTRALIUM from a joke to something serious. Saxton Hale is the patient zero that spread the illness of bad comedy in the game, and it's weird cause originally it was a one off gag that worked really well being the anagram for Hot Anal Sex and a joke on a real life bodybuilder's dumb tips.
Probably the only good thing about the comics is that it allowed for Mann vs Machine to come out, which, despite being terrible and grindy in execution, would have been really cool if handled better.
>Just how abysmal is it at Valve?
Valve's policy is to allow its devs to work on whatever project they feel like. This is both a blessing, meaning what they make USED TO BE pretty damn cool, and a curse, because they're wont to jump on new bandwagons and work on new tech or on the store rather than on games in sore need of updates. At one point the TF2 dev team consisted of 5 on-and-off developers taking hints from "pro" gaymerz and their no fun allowed mentality.
>>16456960
Originally she was just a minor character working for the Administrator, whom herself was a minor character to begin with. Since it's a sausage party and people are thirst as fuck, she became the go-to starter pack waifu for TFags.
>Do people like these comics, though?
People watch Isekais unironically, so yeah, there may be redditors who're still into them. Personally I always found them gaudy minor some small in-jokes like Sniper's fake parents being aussie Eustace and Muriel. The SFMs animations are the good shit though, even with the cancer that is Miss Pauling at least they're fun to watch.
0b343f No.16457297
>>16457055
You know what they say:
“Take away individualism and give yourself some convenience, and you’re as good as a rotting brain.”
Valve let its work do itself for them since they launched Steam, so they slowly shut themselves down and let the money do the work for them.
520973 No.16459362
>>16456815
>What happened to the magic they used to have?
They all left. After that valve couldn't get anything done that wasn't stupid prebuilt PCs, VR and controllers because of massive amounts of in-fighting(i.e. supposedly L4D3 was shitcanned because it couldn' tbe agreed upon if the game should use Unity or Source 2)
7fd046 No.16459386
The TF2 comics were originally going to be a TV show for Adult Swim.
Valve took too long to make it the show was meant to be airing and they had literally nothing finished, not a single episode so [AS] cancelled the whole thing. The scrapped pilot turned into Expiration Date and the original arc they had for the show got recycled for the comics.
3731a1 No.16459435
There's like 3 dudes working on TF2 and they fucking blocked themselves into a corner trying to appeal to retarded youtubers that don't actually get why TF2 lasted so long, and why it's a good fuckin game, and unfortunately, every goddamn fork of it doesn't get it either.
Nearly anything that's fun gets nerfed into the dirt and things that need to get rebalanced get rebalanced fucking wrong LITERALLY ALL THEY HAD TO DO ON THE FUCKING CLEAVER WAS SWITCH CRIT ON STUN AND MINICRIT ON LONG DISTANCE, IT WAS THAT FUCKING SIMPLE, AND THE SANDMAN SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN NERFED IN PUBS, AT WORST, MVM NEEDED THE NERF SINCE YOU COULD GET DICKED BY A BONK SCOUT ON A WAVE WITH A GIANT SCOUT
Unfortunately I'm thinking this shit's going to run straight into the ground and the only thing that'll keep it alive is that literally every other attempt at a Class and Objective Based Team Shooter will end up chasing the youtubers and TOOOOORNAMUNT players for the extra shekels and will never have any sustainability if they aren't just straight up free.
578f81 No.16459446
>>16456960
I started to hate what they were doing with TF2's lore around the time they introduced Saxton Hale. That's when it went from having a spy fiction theme that could have comically stuck with the red vs blu set-up presented in the game (fully embracing how absurd it is) to doing this stupid "lol so wacky" bullshit.
3731a1 No.16459451
>>16459446
I bet your faggot ass hasn't even watched a single smexual
7fd046 No.16459578
>>16456960
>>16457028
>>16457087
Fun Fact: Ms Pauling was written (and voiced) by Ashley Burch, King Cuck's sister.
2aac64 No.16459588
>>16459446
wasn't there that image about australians ruining valve?
3731a1 No.16459621
To give you an idea of what I mean with
A total lack of understanding of what makes TF2 good
Look at this chart
There's something you might notice
Nearly all matchmaking related updates drove population spikes down
And that MASSIVE spike near the end there?
That was from one guy, who had been part of "the community" before the new wave that arrived after the matchmaking update, essentially nothing for THREE FUCKING YEARS, uploading one video
It's beyond obvious, to get team fortress 2 to be in a better state than it is currently, they need to STOP chasing the esports shit, and listening to dickhead youtubers that think everything and anything needs to get nerfed, because every time they do, less people play, and there's going to be a point where it goes critical and it'll essentially die completely
3731a1 No.16459633
>>16459621
Additionally, it was a fucking HALLOWEEN UPDATE.
170a1c No.16459647
>>16459435
I know that pain anon TF2 is on life support now since it only has 3 devs left and 3 people are not enough to make an update especially since people have been asking for the Heavy update for so long that at this point it is cancelled. The previous weapon changes where just nerfs and really bad one and some other weapons that are in dire need for a buff or have it's hitbox corrected (Righteous Bison) are still ignored and would never be even used even when not taking the game seriously, hurt so bad seeing this game get neglected this hard now days by Valve.
3731a1 No.16459701
>>16459647
Potentially, three people could handle an update, Let's think about some of the pretty good updates, that did a good job of adding weapons and shit that actually matters
What we need is something like, let's say, one new set for heavy, maybe throw in an extra lunchbox item, so we just need to figure out, a new minigun, new shotgun/lunchbox, and a new melee and he'd snag himself as much content as the pyro in his recent class update with the fucking DIRTH of weapons made for tf2 on the workshop, if Valve doesn't feel like making any models, I'm sure they could grab, say, four of them and toss em in an update, maybe toss in a few maps and ship it.
Hell in the pyro's first major update, he got one new weapon and two reskins for stock
3731a1 No.16459730
>>16459588
You're probably thinking of this it might have been kind of faded in the back of your mind
520973 No.16459905
>>16459386
>the show was meant to be airing and they had literally nothing finished, not a single episode
According to the VNN shill, the show got canned because, even though they had the pilot done, the damn thing was over a half hour long and wasn't fit to air, so ASS told them to shorten it down. Valve then chose to ignore them because they thought "Well AS came to US and asked for the show, so they're gonna eat the shit we put on their plate" and when the 11/22 minute episode never materialized, ASS just cancelled the whole thing out of frustration.
>>16459701
>Hell in the pyro's first major update, he got one new weapon and two reskins for stock
Supposedly the problem is the TF2 fanbase is too entitled for something like that now. One of the team members came out and said that updates are slower because the fans demand shit like comics, hats TV Shorts maps, etc. Probably Most definitely bullshit, but what can you do.
1ac9f1 No.16459945
>>16459905
>According to the VNN shill, the show got canned because, even though they had the pilot done, the damn thing was over a half hour long and wasn't fit to air, so ASS told them to shorten it down. Valve then chose to ignore them because they thought "Well AS came to US and asked for the show, so they're gonna eat the shit we put on their plate" and when the 11/22 minute episode never materialized, ASS just cancelled the whole thing out of frustration.
I thought he said that valve not only ignored their 11/22 minute requirement, but when the deadline came they had nothing to show for it.
7fd046 No.16459967
>>16459945
That's right, the pilot wasn't even finished. They should have been in pre-production of the other episodes by the time the deadline came around, but they hadn't even finished the pilot.
b468b5 No.16459979
>>16459446
You're very right. You can see a gradual tonal shift over time with the game and I think the comics represent that the most. What the TF2 tone and theme should be is an obtuse spy-like shooter with a bit of ironic humor. And that's present in everything from the design down to the music, but with the comics they just decided to make everything really silly to appeal to the Reddit fanbase. It's the same thing that happened with Portal–a dark humor puzzle game turned into lol lemons.
I think the best example of this is that they either confirmed or heavily implied that the Spy is actually the Scout's dad. This is in reference to in Meet the Spy, the Red Spy had a fling with the Blu Scout's mother. The Red Spy having sex with the Blu Scout's mother is simple and funny.
The Spy actually being the Scout's dad, this unknown jetsetting rogue mercenary romanced some Brooklyn frump, said frump had a kid, and many many years later, that said kid just so happens to also be a hired mercenary who just so happens to work on the same team as the Spy is retarded fanfiction-pandering. And is the Spy the Scout's dad or is the Red Spy the Blu Scout's dad? Is the Red Scout the son of the Blu Spy too? It throws it all into wack.
Naming the Scout after an 'community influencer' or whatever the fuck, is also a bad idea.
I think the worst part is that TF2 isn't something that should really have an overarching plot. Lore is fine, but something like this, this overly dramatic arc where these characters are suddenly having heart to hearts, it feels like someone's webcomic to tie into their shipping blog. Also, the story doesn't and can't actually lead to anything. No matter what happens, the general plotline of the game doesn't change, so why even put this much time into this story? I think it would have been simpler to have short funny stories, because this dramatic stuff kinda feels like the stuff that happens in bad Sonic games, it's tonally misaligned.
0ff5b6 No.16460002
>>16459979
I kind of like how as the map tie-ins were released there were subtle hints that the setting was progressing chronologically though.The game took place in like 1968 or something originally and according to the comics its like 1975 I think? But as newer maps like the Invasion maps started coming out you started seeing hints in the world to actually reflect that. PDP-11s and dummy terminals in 2fort eventually became 70s era graphical terminals in later maps. Its subtle, but I like those extra details. It shows at least someone gave a shit
4f1367 No.16460024
>>16457036
>spoiler
There's no fucking way they said that, you're probably thinking of nuDoom.
0ff5b6 No.16460031
>>16460024
Naw pretty sure they did, and you're not thinking of nuDoom, you're thinking of when John Romero said all Doom and Doom II WADs were canon
fe0247 No.16460032
>>16459979
>>16460002
I did like the idea that there was an overarching plot, but something more like Warhammer 40k where the plot only exists to give a sort of context to the battles and wars; or in this case, the map skirmishes. I disliked that they had Redmond and Blutarch die. It was really just a way to make Gray seem like more of a threat but Gray himself died quite pathetically and abruptly in the comics. I hope he had an ace up his sleeve or something and somehow does something in the last comic (which may never be released)
520973 No.16460037
>>16459945
>I thought he said that valve not only ignored their 11/22 minute requirement, but when the deadline came they had nothing to show for it.
Shit, i misheard, they sent in a rough animatic that was over 20, and ignored ASS when they requested 11
>>16459621
.>Nearly all matchmaking related updates drove population spikes down
Yup, i stopped playing almost completely after Meet your Match completely gutted Quick Play. only came back to see if i could grief faggots in MvM, with Pyro, but it didn't really work out well.
0ff5b6 No.16460047
>>16460037
Why was an 11 minute episode format too much to ask for? They already had 20 fucking minutes of screenplay and animation and they couldn't even be bothered to split it in half? Hell if they stuck to the format to begin with they could've had something delivered much sooner. And this wasn't even a final product, but a rough draft made using their own fucking tools for money while fans work with these tools for fucking free. Even in another universe I think this all just boils down to sheer incompetence. What a shame, they spend 9 years making this game and while they got more then its moneys worth in return I can't help but think TF2 could've spawned something much more then a single game. It could've become its own franchise with how much talent went into the characters and settings. But Valve just fucked it all up.
f53921 No.16460054
>>16460037
>Ashley Burch was contracted to write the TF2 show
I am now a little less pained that this project never succeeded.
0ff5b6 No.16460057
>>16460054
She was the voice of Pauline
1ac9f1 No.16460073
>>16460057
Pauline is really the epitome of burch.
>unnecessary sidekick to the director
>inexplicably has mary sue tier combat prowess
>routinely denies scout for what appears to be no reason other than she gets off on it
>talks down to almost all the mercs like a bitch
>has an obnoxious "team mom" personality
b468b5 No.16460090
Another thing I don't like is that I don't like the mercs actually having names because I think it personalizes them too much. I might be in the minority here, but I don't think think the classes should be specfic people, but more obtuse. I think they're meant to be just that, classes. Even though they look individual from one another, the fact that you can have more than one of the same class on a team, and that they're all wearing what is essentially buttoned work shirts with emblems on them, save for the two classes who's outfits make them completely conceal them, it feels like the game was designed to say "All Engineers/Soldiers happen to look like this." I think it's the same reason why the classes refer to each other by their occupation, because that's what they're supposed to be. I fully admit I might be reading this wrong, however.
1ac9f1 No.16460100
>>16460090
TF2 really has no rules about this. In meet the medic, you see heavy cut down hundreds of identical soldiers, yet in the comics they are considered singular people.
9c90ec No.16460107
>>16460100
In the comics, there's more than one of the classes, the ones that are our main characters are just the survivors of the gravel wars
7e0243 No.16460111
>>16460100
I heard the meet the team videos might be like propaganda on RED's end. In actuality there is only one person for each class, but they used the same "actor" in the Meet the Team videos. The game has the same characters on BLU and RED, or more than one of the same character on each team because it's a training simulator.
1ac9f1 No.16460113
>>16460107
Yeah but they're different people who are the same class, not multiples of the same person.
9c90ec No.16460115
>>16460113
yeah, the classes are a profession in this case
7e0243 No.16460118
>>16460113
Not in the game or the meet the team videos. They are all identical.
1ac9f1 No.16460119
>>16460118
That's what I was saying.
7e0243 No.16460121
>>16460119
but they are literally multiples of the same person
1ac9f1 No.16460122
>>16460121
Yes, that is the exact scene I was talking about here >>16460100
7e0243 No.16460125
>>16460119
okay wait, I see what you are saying, I'm just retarded.
5c0bb3 No.16460127
>Just how abysmal is it at Valve? Why the fuck are they fucking up so badly? What happened to the magic they used to have?
What magic? They've always been like this. There were shitloads of memes about how Half-Life 2 was taking too long to release.
7e0243 No.16460130
So that means the comics are set in "real life", and that's why you don't see multiples of the same class.
I think that's good evidence for the videos and actual game being propaganda/a training simulator.
fe0247 No.16460145
>>16460073
Also, according to the Expiration Date short,
>Cleans up the mercs' dirty work almost as if the mercs aren't even needed
>is called upon to defend the briefcase, again almost as if the mercs aren't needed
>is apparently smarter than the rest of the team, even the engie and the medic, and can figure out how to defeat the bread monster
There's a lot more but I don't want to get into it and end up going to bed angry.
c1817c No.16460168
What's this about youtubers though? Did the matchmaking updates bring in the "muh eceleb said this weapon/class bad so weapon/class bad" faggotry?
7ad650 No.16460174
Heavy's sister a cute would marry and snu-snu/10
7e0243 No.16460283
>>16460168
tf2 always had that, if anything matchmaking only made it worse
d8a3d0 No.16460303
>>16460174
Is this fattie what you nigs are swooning over?
7fd046 No.16460312
>>16460303
>fattie
She's meant to be strong and muscular, not fat.
520973 No.16460314
d8a3d0 No.16460342
>>16460312
>>16460314
The hooknose and jaw make "her" look like a man in a wig. Are you guys sure you're not gay?
89e31a No.16460375
>>16460303
She reminds me of those ugly tumblr fanart of the overwatch fat dyke.
Just get some quality she-hulk porn if you like muscle woman.
2a9b91 No.16460380
>>16460127
Eventually though they'd release something and it'd be good, well worth the wait. Now, they do nothing, except for when they're doing something disappointing. All I want are some good polished single player games, along with good mod tools.
c1817c No.16460404
>>16460283
>Always had that
Again, I haven't played since a few months after Meet the Pyro, but I don't remember any TF2 celeb that wasn't Star or animators like Kitty rip
58543d No.16460408
>>16460375
The lower legs are far too short.
950bb2 No.16460412
>>16460408
The dog is normal sized, she's actually a goblin there. What a twist.
0ff5b6 No.16460448
>>16460404
Kitty was never part of the SFM community. He just made Gmod videos. and everyone knows he faked his death online because he got bored of making new videos
c1817c No.16460459
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>>16460448
I never said he was SFM.
Speaking of SFM, what are some good animators? I really like this sort of stuff.
01502d No.16460470
>>16460448
>Kitty faked his death since he was bored of making new videos
Is this true? I know there was that pyro main YouTuber who faked his death to end his channel.
c1817c No.16460483
>>16460470
>I know there was that pyro main YouTuber who faked his death to end his channel.
That's so hilarious I can almost see it being true.
01502d No.16460502
a1cc4d No.16460522
>>16460502
This world is so fucking retarded sometimes holy shit.
93f877 No.16460523
Also did the comics ever explain how the fuck there are 2 identical teams with the same fucking people, and the fact that they all die and respawn constantly?
2d1274 No.16460526
>>16460523
They didn't but the best headcanon explanation I've heard online is that they clone the same people and use the clones to fight each other, in a weird playing chess against yourself over a debate sort of way.
f8f960 No.16460537
I blame the "work on whatever you want XD" policy these soy-rich companies have been implementing ever since Google made it popular.
c1817c No.16460680
>>16460502
Fucking madman. What's even more hilarious is that someone managed to get popular as a pyro main in the first place.
6fa988 No.16460834
>>16460127
Half Life 2 was in constant active development and had a reason for its delay.
6fa988 No.16460854
>>16460680
>he doesn't know who don newman was
People love seeing classes who are considered weak do cool shit.
520973 No.16461335
>>16460523
>Also did the comics ever explain how the fuck there are 2 identical teams with the same fucking people, and the fact that they all die and respawn constantly
They did explain the latter part.
849025 No.16461390
>>16460375
>scrawny ass She-Hulk
>muscle woman
Pick one
4e2d6d No.16461401
>>16460854
Honestly watching a few videos of his, he's pretty damned skilled and it's wonderful to detonator jumping again. I never knew Pyro's flames had such a lifetime, it might have been me playing at a usually high ping or a new update, but it looks purdy. Sage for ecelebshit.
7e461c No.16461484
>>16459446
>fully embracing how absurd it is
>"lol so wacky" bullshit.
isn't that exactly the same thing?
72553a No.16461561
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>>16456815
i completely forgot about the comics. darn i din't even remember the game until i heard this song wich reminded me of the game again, it was realeased back in 2007 but it sometimes still feels like yesterday it feels like it should be 2012 but it's almost super power year
8cae9c No.16461623
I headcanon the respawning and multiple identical people as cloning. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. Also, don't the domination/revenge voice lines reveal that even if their bodies are still warm on the ground, they remember events prior to their death, and even the specific person that has been kicking their ass?
This shit's wacky, yo.
0e7667 No.16461709
>>16460127
>They've always been like this.
Between 2003 and 2014 they pretty much released at least one game per year.
The selective memory of idiots who refuse to accept the existence of anything that isn't called Half-Life doesn't change that.
dceb0d No.16461988
>>16461484
One is embracing the absurdity that is inherent to the premise of the game. Like having characters openly talk about their doppelgangers in-universe. Or the spy's paper-mask gag that brilliantly ties into how the actual gameplay works.
The other is basically being wacky for the sake of being wacky. Which often ends up feeling really forced and not in line with the tone that the game originally had.
400276 No.16463013
ee08ac No.16472601
>>16457095
>A picture of a fat black guy who they literally picked off the street is a way to influence your thoughts
Hi /x/
ee08ac No.16472620
The comics are entertaining in the end, but they can be a bit stupid at a time with some jokes, like the writers not having anything to put there and deciding to shoehorn one in.
Artstyle is decent, there are good and wholesome moments (Heavy hugging his матер) and in the end, it's just an entertaining read.
Good for screencaps too.
7e0243 No.16472687
>>16461623
headcannon is a tumbrlite word