/v/ - Video Games

Didn't you post this earlier, and everyone said "wow the game is still shit, color me surprised Check 'em"

>>16456522

Uh, what? I tried to make a thread earlier but it didn't work it seemed.

And I wouldn't say the game is shit, just severely overshilled, especially on Plebbit and cuckchan.

i dunno seems pretty good to me and all the tears over it just make me like it more

>>16456540

I know, I'm just fucking with you. I only played the demo for MH:W and that was enough for me, dead franchise.

>"can't play loli" isn't in the pic

That's a lot of the things wrong, but far from everything

>>16456563

Nothing stopping you from adding more or removing things.

Reminder that we're never getting another good Lost Planet game like 2.

>>16456563

If we ever get a Dragon's Dogma 2 they'll probably remove the option to make lolis because current year.

That all looks right to me.

>>16456509

>muh grind is what made MH good

Fuck off, I just want to drop dinosaurs with other players.

>>16456509

>people who played the game for up to 10000 hours

Those are the last ones you should trust, it just means they crafted an identity out of an hobby they shoukd have just tried and left behind like all things. WOW drones spend hundreds of thousands of hours on the same game because they LOST the taste for good gaming, not for being high conneisseurs. It's the difference between expertise and wisdom,

>>16456691

How about me then, I have like 40-ish hours in the game, and they ruined basically anything good about it. "Lets remove charm RNG" okay good idea, followed by "Lets instead make decorations that you need multiples of some hellacious bullshit RNG".

The entire game is "one step forward two steps back"

You missed a few things:

>Zorah Magdoros is the worst "giant monster" fight yet, being incredibly uneventful and time-wasting

>in-game "story" events that you can't skip

>turf wars play out the exact same, every time, and only benefit the player

>decorations swapped out with charms as the rng skill items

>forest map is a needless maze of ramps and pathways

>several item combinations simplified, like herbs being crafted directly into potions

>auto-combining, meaning you don't even have to stop and take the time to combine items you find out in the field

>game looks washed-out and generally less vibrant than previous entries

>the handler, who is basically the new village guild girl, is hideous

>can eat multiple times in a quest, reducing the value of items that give buffs

>cat's starting skill-set makes you practically never have to use healing items

I'm sure there's more I can't think of, right now.

>>16456736

Wait, just thought of a big one.

>giant lack of environment variety. You have jungle, desert, coral reef, corpse mountain, and rock zone with a little bit of lava

>meaning, in the standard base game, cold drinks are only useful for a total of three small zones in the entire game, and there's no use for hot drinks at all

>>16456640

I will travel to Japan and Maelstrom Itsuno's ass if he allows this.

>>16456754

How about we remove all this grindy shit and focus on the fights, like gamers actually want.

<if only I had to manage mandatory buffs and farming consumables before hunting monsters

>>16457396

Too bad the fights are complete ass in world. I can't think of a single monster that was actually fun in it.

>>16457427

>probably before it even.

The monster hunter general here was infested with World shills since the day the game was announced. They made the entire general completely unusable for months.

>What in the fuck is happening in that webm?

It's the auto evade mantle. But don't worry, World didn't tone down the difficulty at all, it's just as hard as all the older Monster Hunter games! Just ignore it if you don't like it!

>>16457487

Oh my fuck do you ever get bored of screaming at a wall?

>>16457491

Hes been at it for almost a year now, just post devil trigger.

>>16457498

I could talk about Sekiro's hitboxes and he'd probably sperg again.

>>16457499

Or the remake of resident evil 2, or megaman 11.

>>16457506

>players too much mobility

They gave players too much everything, the GS has fucking priority over monster attacks, it's completely idiotic. And now it's getting even more shit, like slinger power shots mid combo, or the grappling hook to monsters. They're giving so much power to the player that you're no longer playing MH, but a really shitty character action game.

World also has terrible hitboxes on a lot of things.

Just like Sekiro :^)

>>16457526

reminds me of the auto-guard thing

>>16457527

Yeah, except auto-guard cost you a slot that could be better used on skills, and didn't activate if you were attacking or performing an action. While the auto evade mantle will dodge out of GS charges or any attack.

>>16457502

>How does making the game and the monster dumber helps into making MH a more enjoyable experience?

Because World isn't meant for someone who has played the series before, it was supposed to be a MH game for people who have never played a MH game before or don't like the mechanics of MH.

>>16457527

At least auto-guard didn't cancel you out of animations and made you almost invincible.

>>16457565

Reported.

Begone cuckchan.

>>16457427

That pic makes me want a loli cat girl squire.

>>16457554

>real version.png

Literally Donte HD Edition.

>>16457577

He is literally Nero but with short hair.

Everything about him is the same from DMC4 except the outfit and hair which can even be modded back in.

Nero doesnt even look like a beaner, have black hair and look or act like an edgy social retard. He is tonally, asteticly and visually completely different from Donte and if you cant tell you might as well be the kind of guy who cant tell the difference between a tiger and a lion, AKA a retard.

>>16457664

Nah, I'm not a faggot. I refuse to buy this piece of shit.

>>16456509

Why are you so emotionally invested in this? It's kinda sad tbh.

>>16457499

B-but anon, you can light enemies on fire in shittiro! That surely makes it the best game ever!

>>16456522

Checked

>>16456563

Playing Dragon's Dogma on Switch right now, and having a loli witch pawn is honestly one of the best things about it.

The only good monhun porn is the solo hunter series and the other stuff by the same guy.

So I guess this is a the Monater Hunter thread, I'm back playing 3U again. Is there a tool for knowing which weapons are the best? I'm trying to do the single player missions and I started using hunting horn again. I think anything Brachy is good? I heard since it's slime which is like 4U's blast.

But I'm just trying to look for a good hunting horn since I normally main SnS. But it seems HH or heavier weapons are the way to go with this installment.

Can I play online in 3U or only in 4U?

>>16456558

It is a pretty fun MH, its just not an exclusive, you saw the same shit when MH left sony.

Before the game came out you had "comparisons" showing that the animations are slower and janky, by comparing completely different moves against each other.

>>16456736

>>16456754

The environments are really cramped once you learn the layout, especially the ancient forest. Seems like they make it confusing just to make it seem bigger than it is, and the expansion brining only one new zone with three reskinned monsters, no news of barioth, for 40$ is a goddamn rip-off.

>>16461489

I'd like to think there's gonna be more, but it makes little sense for them to not be trying to show off everything they have to make it seem bigger.

>>16461400

>endless shit grinding

Elaborate.

>>16457412

Sounds like a Monster Hunter game to me.

>>16456509

>everything I don't like is a cruch

>new moves are crutches

Can all these people just kill themselves already

>>16457477

MH in general is.

>>16458192

No.

>>16461719

They wouldn't be crutches if the monsters were updated to work around the new moves.

>>16461569

Toastra gems and plates. On top of that it was on PSP so you were grinding and getting arthritis.

I'm happy I can play MH with an actual fucking controller again.

>>16461749

That's the same grind you have in World though.

>>16461726

Holy shit, somebody actually saved it. I've been looking for that webm for AGES.

Thanks anon.

I actually made the original edit for more YES and it all went from there.

>>16456640

They have to allow loli pawns in DD2 because every NPC is made with the character creation thing you use to customize your character, the only way they will completely remove loli pawns from the game is by also completely removing child, short and flat chested NPCs, which would be a mistake since DDO has an elven race and they're all flat, and there's a couple important child NPCs in the original game.

>>16461829

uh, no problem.

DENUVO

>>16461845

The would not only remove that they would remove the ability to play as any female who is not a landwhale and you know it.

>>16461946

Oy vey did you just assume zir's gender?!

>>16461849

>>16461458

I mean I mained SnS since it was the most fun I had building support outfit/clown outfits for the group when I played online in 4U

That tier list is bullshit, but since im playing solo only then I would need to invest time to learning all the weapons and in some cases if you want to build a good set with weapon (clown) mode then it only works with that weapon and monster.

But I dont really want to learn ALL the classes. Everyone mains a class of weapons, its not like you play 10% each time with each class.

Is there something like a guide for the 3U weapons and armor? There was one for 4U I remember.

>>16461749

That's the only thing I've liked about World so far. Playing on the PSP gave me pain and muscle spasms in my left hand that took months to fully subside.

>>16462079

*ser's gender

faggot

>>16462090

in MHW? You have to be brain damaged in order not to be able to beat a monster with any weapon

>>16456509

Is "ugly as fuck NPCs" on there?

My big gripe with MHW is that it's popular. It makes me feel sad that people who aren't socially retarded like I am are playing the same game as me.

>>16461389

Nigger, do you know how long I had been waiting for an proper MH on PC? As in, not Frontier or Online shit? I was so fucking wanting for a PC MH that I gave World more benefit of the doubt than most anons here. But it is a fucking TRAVESTY that this game is the one that brought MH to PC. One that is much easier, less complex, and lacking in content compared to most previous entries in the franchise. A game that needed a fucking day one patch to add Poogie, an MH staple, to the game. A game that locks content to time-limited events, like it's some kind of mmo or f2p trash. A stain on the series that, if we're unfortunate, will affect every future game in the series, no matter what platform they're on.

>>16456513

They passed on Barioth? Why does 3rd gen always get the shaft?

>>16462181

Im only talking about MH3U.

>>16462261

Are you a bitch? Than the kelbi bow will get you through basically anything

>>16462237

He's not confirmed, but if they add more monsters he might get in. We don't know if what they showed off is everything yet. considering nargacuga is in though, he has a good chance cause they can just use narga's skeleton.

>>16462277

You arnt even reading what I said.

>>16456509

>trees put on boulders because devs never leave their basements

I've been thinking this about the 6 foot tall grass every fucking game seems to have. I don't think it's a basement thing, it's people who have never left a city.

I tried this game as my first MH and it felt really sluggish.

>>16462337

no I am, there's the tier list for MH3U. Bow has an absolutely stupid op as hell weapon on the kelbi bow. Really 3U is probably the most balanced a MH game has got, but the issue is that some weapons just suck underwater, IIRC lance is pretty high.

It's the best hammer has ever been, and aside from a few exceptions the list is similar to 4U

>>16462154

No, the face buttons aren't sufficiently soft for prolonged gameplay, a pro controller is much better in that regard. Its sticks are a bit too tall (compared to the retarded dog) and the d pad is trash for activating hunter arts, but the softer buttons make it all worth it.

>>16462494

>soft buttons

why would you ever want soft buttons? I’ll take a hand cramp if it means getting away from those

>>16462497

They're not as squishy as ur mum's balls, just softer than the absolute hell that are the joycon face buttons

>>16462474

Just look up which ones give you equipment that you want. It's going to come down to personal preference, more than anything.

>>16462494

The option for activating arts with ZR + x/a/b has worked pretty well for me on joycon. Much better than using the c buttons.

>>16462539

Using the d buttons for hunter arts is better in my opinion because you can keep moving with your thumb's tip and select any art with its joint, while keeping B ready for an emergency dodge.

>>16458156

I made a loli orc. She's a good girl. I also only summon loli pawns if I can help it. I was fighting a cyclops near a ledge on the waterfall between Gran Soren and the pawn encampment, and Brooke the aryan loli fighter climbed on his head and made him fall off the cliff. Her sacrifice will not be forgotten.

Sage for tangentially related.

>>16462573

You can have other races?

>>16462734

No, but you can change the skin color all you want.

>>16456680

No one said that, retard.

>>16457477

But then you post the overrated overhyped trash that is Dragon's Dogma which is still in every single way worse than MH. Back to NeoGAF with you, they love that game.

>>16457742

>why are you invested in something you spent thousands of hours on playing

Why are you even on /v/? Stop larping, retard.

FU is outdated and weapons miss most of the moves that make them fun, start with P3rd or MH4U >>16462474

>>16463796

Dragon's dogma is what MHW should have been, i was a hardcore monhun player started with freedom 1, stopped playing after 3U and i didn't like DD at first because it felt too casual, but then i gave it another chance roughly 3 years after it came out and i couldn't stop playing, i got to level 70 with nearly every single vocation maxed out before i even bothered to progress past the everfall story mission because exploring the map and killing female bandits chimeras, ogres and cyclops was too much fun, i even did pawn suicide runs in BBI to get powerful weapons to sell and get the dragonslayer and guts' clothing ASAP.

>>16463830

Funny, my brother had the same experience. He didn't like it when i introduced him to the game, years later he became more of a fan than me.

>>16462474

MH games up until the 3rd generation werent known to be that good, at all.

FU is known to be an aged janky mess and missing a good chunk of weapons and movesets that we have today.

>skipping 3U/3G

Anon you are making a HUGE mistake, those games are fucking amazing too, the demo for 3U on the 3ds is what made me fall in love in the series in the first place after that I couldnt stop playing the game for weeks at a time.

>>16457452

>The monster hunter general here was infested with World shills since the day the game was announced.

True

>made mh generals unusable.

Nigger, the generals didn’t exist until World was announced.

Just like they disappeared after World lost it’s final bit of relevance with that atrocious PC launch.

But just because a series doesn’t have a general on /v/ doesn’t mean it’s bad. If anything, with all the cuckchan template threads that stain the catalogue, (Hardly working mods, hardly working) you should be happy the subhumans here aren’t talking about the old mh.

>>16463860

>he uses remake pictures

Unironically worldbabby tier

>>16464037

>Nigger, the generals didn’t exist until World was announced.

Unfortunately the onsite archive only goes back to a point after e3 2017, when World was announced. I remember a handful of threads before e3 and the middle of one was when the new broke out during the Sony conference.

It seems like you get better mileage out of duos with someone you can trust instead of a party of four who will cart three times and not fail outright thanks to insurance in the first five minutes, then call you a coward for abandoning. Why does endgame content attract people like this, even if their HR is upwards of 400?

>>16463830

DD's biggest failing is it's move limits. Like why in fuck does only one class even get dodge rolls? The button sits unused on the rest of the classes. Why does heavy weapon only get 3 moves while sword and shield gets 6? etc.

Desperately needs a mod that just lets you equip more moves and gives every class the dodge roll.

The combat is too limited to be fun when the monsters aren't MH level.

>>16464085

Why would they have to butcher so many chickens before playing CS?

>>16464037

>Nigger, the generals didn’t exist until World was announced.

You're retarded. The generals existed long before World was announced. It had constant threads leading up to XX's release, and for a few weeks afterwards, then slowed down until World was announced, at which point it was flooded with shills. Even before XX, there were plenty of slow threads, usually more focused on 4U and Generations.

>>16465454

>Why does heavy weapon only get 3 moves while sword and shield gets 6? etc.

There is a mod to give the warrior 6 move slots just like every other class, but i ain't gonna pay another $40 or so for the damn PC port considering i bought DD ad DDDA on release date at full price and have way too many hours on my 360 save to even consider migrating my toaster probably can't run it either. It's not like you need more than indomitable lash, exodus slash and your motherfucking life ends 30 minutes from now: the attack.

>Like why in fuck does only one class even get dodge rolls?

Because the strider has shit stat growths and DPS and you meant two classes: strider and assassin, so they wanted to make up for it by giving the vocation two of the best moves in the game (hundred kisses and skull splitter) and mobility (double jump and dodge roll), but then again nothing stops you from starting out as a warrior to get all the useful skills and a decent HP/strength growth, swapping to strider at level 20 once your growths are more or less set in stone, getting every useful thing from that vocation, swapping to assassin for that insane strength growth and then going back to strider once you hit level 200.

>>16465475

They need the protein for their epic frags.

>>16465475

It's obviously a child labor gulag.

>>16456509

The only problem that really bothered me in MHW, to the point that I stopped playing, is the pathetically tiny list of weapons. Seriously, there's like 1/10th the weapons of a typical MH game, and 90% of the weapons that do exist all share the same identical skin. Like, give me hundreds of uniquely skinned weapons to collect or get the fuck off my planet.

>>16456509

>raise their damage to simply Absurd levels (Kirin), ultimately resulting in Frontier-level AOE fests that just aren't engaging for fun

Funny enough, Kirin in Frontier gets dumpstered on by any weapon that can guard point attacks, especially Switch Axe.

I played World. It was fine. Not great, just fine. In terms of gameplay I rate it lower than Dragon's Dogma, but slightly better than Atelier Rorona.

What it lacks from the core MH games, and what caused me to not play any more after beating Xeno, was the gear and skill progression. The big meaty part of MH is crafting your armor and weapons, and coming up with all sorts of crazy combinations to give you different skills. World has a shallow gear crafting system with very little flexibility, and I think the root cause of this was the decision to swap gems and charms.

Gems went from being cheap, craftable, single skill items that are absolutely critical to filling in the gaps of an armor set to being extremely, MMO-tier rarities that lock even the most basic Attack +1 behind endgame grinding. Charms went from being RNG items with two skills and slots to being craftable items with one skill and no slots. I shouldn't have to explain why that gives you less combinations and options, it is self evident.

>>16465539

I mean

why in fuck would they limit DODGE ROLL

to one character, when they have a dedicated button for it. That's a basic thing. Everyone should be able to do it, because it's the BASIC DODGE. Turning and running to dodge is clunky and silly. They should have given them a faster roll, or a dodge step, or a flash step or some shit if they wanted that. Basic things like that shouldn't be class limited.

>>16465539

This sounds kinda like some hidden wiki autism

I just turned the game on and played however I felt like, what do you mean by stat growths being set in stone

Does that mean if you play mage for the first 20 levels your character will always be shit for physical stats, or if you choose fighter for the first twenty levels you'll always be shit at magic? I class changed to magic knight as soon as it was available (until I discovered the basic warrior had a parry window passive skill I needed to get)

>>16468977

Your base stats don't really matter all that much in the long run unless you're a min maxing autist. You can generally pick up any class no issue, since most of your total stats is gonna come from equipment.

>>16462474

>and I'm curious which DLC missions I should prioritize downloading as the game can only hold a set number of them and it would suck if the servers were taken down out of nowhere.

It doesn't matter which ones you take, none of them give you anything special, some quests gave you tickets for a special pirate armor and weapon in the japanese original, but they got dummied out in the western release for some reason, personally i have all the elder dragon DLC quests because they have lower HP and higher drop rates for their most valuable items.

Ignore these two >>16463801 >>16463877 faggots, starting with FU is good to learn the basics and teach you that approaching this franchise like a dumb hack and slash/soulshit will only get you killed.

F1 (optional, but no other game has replicated how fucking brutal PS2 monhun was, and playing the PS2 games is not worth it as you won't be able to progress past the piss easy village quests)>FU>4U>XX

OR

P3rd>3U>XX

Disregard palico question. I'll ask in QTDDTOT. Never played World because I don't have a PS4, and my PC is a potato. Also fuck Denuvo for existing. Anyway it sounds like World outside of being a shitter's paradise really drops the ball with making Monster Hunter open world. Iceborn doesn't sound better. Plus when I heard about timed exclusive events I felt like there's no need for me to play the game now because it's a service that benefits those at launch, not after. I could be wrong on that though. At least previous entries that had events let you download most of them to play online or off.

>>16476321

>Endgame 4u equipment

>requiring the same elder dragon gems

It's funny because most of the elder dragon weapons aren't used in 4u's endgame outside of fashion reasons

There's a decent fatalis weapon for every weapon type, but relic weapons beat everything and there are loads of other options. Even the black fatalis greatsword isn't the indisputable best of the non-relic GS options, though it's the one I prefer.

Basically you're a fag go collect your 5$ from capcom for defending their honor while they dance the corpse puppet that used to be monster hunter for garbage drones

Seriously the rest of your rebuttals were "lol no" with no substance

Bitch you aren't owed an essay for every fucking line that every monhun oldfag can see is the truth in 5 minutes of playing it. This image isn't for you newfags that have never played monster hunter before McHunter big mac edition. This isn't reddit, take your ELI5 requests back there you useless pedantic faggot. If your "waaah they're not all paragraphs instead of lines" complaint is honest then you're honestly fucking retarded.

the only reason people dont like this game is because theyre seething nintencucks

>>16476321

I agree with your complaints against non sequitir bullshit, and wish people would just be wrong and not dumb. The OP image should probably be remade or plainly written instead of trying to be easy to read at significant cost to quality. I agree to more of the OP than I disagree, but it’s lazily made and not informative as much as exclusively whiny. It’d probably do better with consolidated points and not just splitting the same overarching thing over 5 different bullets

>Mobile chugging and slower chugging are incompatible statements

I disagree; they are compatible. Together, it means it’s both much easier to heal or recover from big mistakes and also takes you out of the fight longer, thereby slowing down the game as well. The image fails to disclose that max potions, sushifish, etc. are just as mobile and FASTER than before, which is an even bigger problem.

>Non-elemental boost is full set

Yes, but also misleading, since you can get it significantly more efficiently by slotting a single level 2 deco. A better example is Master’s Touch from teo/behe which is a very dominant set bonus without any deco analogue. Lances love it. Crit Element from rath/USJ was important as well, but ATKT weapons come with it innately now.

>Event gear useless and time limitations are incompatible

In past games, the event quests stuck around forever. You can have notable event items/equipment and also not lock them behind arbitrary real-time cutoffs.

>Hunting Horn “nerf”

The author of the original image is complaining about the right things for the wrong reasons. Double notes were a much more engaging system than song stocking while fulfilling the same niche, but encores are really strong now and World HH is numerically much stronger postpatch, too. A more prevalent issue is the lack of variety in horns and fewer that are comparatively useful to the best. Luna horns were a start.

>Split design team has no relevance to the game

I disagree strongly. A lack of cohesive vision is exactly why the endgame content is primarily massively inflated damage, annoying monsters that spam aoe or have no real pattern at all, and gamebreaking mantles. Even XX was more mechanically ‘stable’. They’re throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.

>narga forest being fake statement

This point read more like pessimistic commentary on how fun monsters in bad zones will not be fun rather than anything to be taken literally.

>>16479122

>How is somewhat mobile chugging that requires a way bigger opening is overall easier?

Because it's not a bigger opening is the thing. It's an opening you can say "fuck it" and cancel out of at any time. It takes you out of the fight for longer, but you're allowed to pussy out of it at any time.

>events

The best Greatsword in the game is event exclusive. Hope you logged in during the right time if you want to use it

>>16477936

Kill yourself fag

>>16479183

>Potions

But you'll get decreased outcome out of that potion, potentially making you go through your potion stack way faster than if you were to account for the way bigger opening/if you were playing an older game, which in itself would force you to make more potions waste time doing the restocking trip to a camp.

>Hope you logged in during the right time if you want to use it

I have not disagreed about timed content being cancer.

>>16479212

That doesn't matter though, because you can go back to base camp at any time and refill on all consumables.

>>16479221

Well, that's the crux of the problem then and not the potion chugging mechanic aspects.

>>16479226

No, while that certainly adds to it, the ability to chug potions without risk is a fairly large problem innately. Especially with the increased mobility you have it's far rarer to actually take damage, even outside of chugging.

>>16479232

Again, your explanation relies/depends on a completely different point entirely.

>that certainly adds to it

The arguments are not elaborate enough to support this claim.

>>16479254

Okay I'd have to break down the entire game to accurately explain why chugging potions while moving is a problem. But a TLDR is basically, the monsters retain old AI patterns from when you couldn't move and chug, so you're so absurdly safe while moving it's not even a risk to think about it. Compiled with the other issues of "you have infinite potions, as long as you have them in your item box". It makes actually dying to anything short of "9,000,000 damage AoE spam" nearly impossible. So chugging while moving wouldn't be a problem in a different game, but because of all these other factors, it adds up to making moving while being able to heal/do whatever, especially as it's only longer for normal/mega potions/antidotes, and not for max pills and shit, leads up to this experience where you're never in any real danger of dying while chugging because you're so mobile and have so many healing items.

>>16479267

>monsters retain old AI patterns from when you couldn't move and chug

While I could disagree saying that from what I saw - I don't think increased mobility in principle changes things with this point in mind, however let's assume that you are not wrong.

>It makes actually dying to anything short of "9,000,000 damage AoE spam" nearly impossible

This conclusion does not follow. In previous games you could go collect the ingredients for your potions and could make more potions than you ever need (or you could just simply take the combining ingredients to the hunt), so again, I don't see how this is in principle different, but again, ultimately disagreeing on these points is not what I am arguing about.

>especially as it's only longer for normal/mega potions/antidotes, and not for max pills and shit

Again, this is yet another outside point.

>So chugging while moving wouldn't be a problem in a different game, but because of all these other factors

Do you agree, that the points that you've made are essential to the argument? If yes, then I don't think we have a disagreement here since I'm trying to bring attention to the picture in question being

>lazily made and not informative as much as exclusively whiny. It’d probably do better with consolidated points and not just splitting the same overarching thing over 5 different bullets

>>16479346

Except none of what you argued is about that. All of what you argued is that "moving while drinking isn't bad". Which is extremely untrue for a massive amount of factors, especially for one who's never played the game, the full weight of the change is difficult to express.

Imagine if you would, a game where you had to stand still to shoot your gun, and old enemies were designed around this fact with holes in their attacks to let you fire it. Now imagine in the sequel they brought back the same enemies, but now you don't need to stand still to fire your gun, but the old enemies still behave as if you did. As it's a sequel of course they threw in a couple of new enemies, the new ones don't have those massive gaps, but the old ones still do for some reason.

That's why drinking while moving is bad. It's a compounded issue because of bad AI design, Poor level geometry and a ton of other factors, culminating in "moving while drinking just trivializes the risk associated with healing found in previous games.

> In previous games you could go collect the ingredients for your potions and could make more potions than you ever need (or you could just simply take the combining ingredients to the hunt)

Actually not true, arena hunts and the like wouldn't have sources to craft from. This game all you need is a farcaster to completely refill your items in an arena hunt.

>>16479654

>All of what you argued is that "moving while drinking isn't bad"

Please read again the post you are replying to or quote my initial statement about the issue. Because you are either grossly inaccurate or going on a tangent.

>Imagine if you would, a game where you had to stand still to shoot your gun, and old enemies were designed around this fact with holes in their attacks to let you fire it…

For the sake of an argument I've already ceded this point to you, what's the need of bringing it up again via reestablishing it through an analogy? If you want to correct me on my observations relating to a sidepoint, then sure, you could do that, but only after separating it from the main issue, because as I've stated, that point might as well be irrelevant, since within the context it doesn't change anything in principle.

>>In previous games you could go collect the ingredients for your potions

>Actually not true, arena hunts and the like wouldn't have sources to craft from.

1. Arena hunts are exceptions, they are not your common quest, so bringing them as a direct counterargument to my assertion of what can happen on a quest is fallacious at best and dishonest at worst.

2. On arenas there are spots for gathering healing items.

3. Again, your counter argument relies on completely new, not yet established point of arenas providing access to your item stash as long as you still have a spare farcaster.

Please, take a step back and reconsider what this argument is about, because you are approaching the level of mistakes equal to the ones made in the bullet point picture.

>>16479816

Except you're arguing from a point where you have no standing, so you can't do anything but cede a point as it's brought up. It's like arguing about math, but you then go "but addition wasn't brought up before" when it's a core part of the topic being discussed.

>>16479850

>Except you're arguing from a point where you have no standing

<Healing while running, can dodge while healing

<While easier, chugging motions takes longer

>>These 2 points contradict each other, they cannot be accepted both at the same time, however within context, neither aspect by itself is justifiable

<monsters retain old AI patterns

>>with this point in mind I don't think increased mobility in principle changes things

You are clearly wrong and making assertions based on assumptions that stem from inaccurate understanding of my positions or from misreading of my arguments.

>"but addition wasn't brought up before" when it's a core part of the topic being discussed.

Sure, "addition" is core part of the topic, which is the reason why "but addition wasn't brought up before" is also core part of the topic.

I am in no way obliged to agree with an argument if it is incomplete and absolutely requires knowledge of several other points that are essential to the structure of the argument. I could agree with you (i.e. cede points) out of politeness and due to feeling some level of relation to the stance that you are taking, but besides that I couldn't care less if the World is shit or not, I'm not invested in the issue. I'm not part of the special olympics. I'm here simply because of sheer stupidity that the picture is representing. Because its intent is solidifying anti-world and by proxy anti-newfag arguments to shutdown to an extent senseless arguments that go on in mh generals, but since the quality and consistency of the picture is so fucking awful all it does is for anyone that is using it it creates an image of a retarded fanboy that can't properly communicate his thoughts in a concise rational manner, instead only being able to make reactionary responses or parrot opinions.

It's like arguing about math, but I point out that the proof or steps taken are insufficient to which you reply by saying that "addition is important", when it never even was a part of initially presented calculation.

Also, fyi act of coming up with analogies in no way makes your argument sound.

>>16480024

So what you're saying is you have no idea what you're talking about, and can't structure an argument to either side, but are expecting an argument about the topic to be simplified down to the point where someone who has no interest in the topic can follow it?

>>16480037

>So what you're saying is you have no idea what you're talking about

No, I'm saying that if a person, that doesn't know about the topic approaches the picture in good faith (i.e. he assumes that the logic behind arguments is sound and the premises are correct), then he should be able to agree with most if not all the points that are being made so the notion of MHW being shit would become objective (or as objective as it is possible), because that's the fucking point of the picture.

>You are expecting an argument about the topic to be simplified down to the point where someone who has no interest in the topic can follow it?

Yes, exactly that. Well, maybe not exactly simplified, since that sounds like being dumbed down, but as in being concise and sound.

>and can't structure an argument to either side

The opposite, I can make an argument for either side, hence why by itself I can't care less for every possible side that I could take and how you, or one of some particular other side could reply to my take made within an arbitrarily taken point of view. If I was interested in that, I'd go arguing in mhg occasionally going on tangents where I explore every single caveat for my statements that I could possibly come up with.

>>16480106

Except that's wrong, the chart has to be concise, and while it comes across as overly whiny, what you suggest will mean a person has to attach several paragraphs to each point to educate any random on what an "AI" is.

No one especially on the internet is going to read paragraphs of text on a white background to "why something is bad". In an actual argument setting you fail, because you over-establish information both sides should already know, in a posting setting it'd fail because it's too long for anyone to bother to read, which it already is, the only place that type of arguing even remotely passes as not a asinine waste of everyone's time because the person has to be handheld every step of the way, is in a structured debate which posting a chart isn't.

some of that list is serious fucking autism

>>16479346

You need green herbs and blue mushrooms to make normal potions, shrooms are plentiful in all games/maps from F1 to XX but herbs are kinda rare in most maps, and potions heal a tiny amount of your total HP so they're worthless without honey to make mega pots, and honey is outright nonexistent in a lot of maps, not to mention that gathering resources mid-hunt is stupid and a waste of time.

If i could access the entire item box mid-quest in F1 it would make a lot of quests in that game a joke, the most notable being the final village one where you fight a silver rathalos and a golden rathian in the small arena, why be careful with my positioning, traps, pots and flash/smoke bombs when i can just go back with a farcaster and grab more from the chest?

>>16481319

Check this out >>16476321

>>16481319

Those are the points that matter. Stop being a nigger and read; it's not even that long.

>>16481331

>Stop being a nigger and read

Start with you're a self, because you have completely missed the entire point of his post.

Thus hearing from you that the picture is actually concise and to the point - is fucking hilarious.

>>16481331

>Those are the points that matter

So there's no merit to the comments from >>16476321 ? Yeah you can fuck right off with your stupid bullshit.

>>16481335

You're basically saying the OP is tl;dr and to trim it down. The thing is that those are all valid points listed. If OP reduced it any further there'd be some faggot saying "yeah well WHY is X point important". It covers the bases as well as expands on some of them.

>>16481337

It's the same shit. You'd know that if you werent a nigger and read.

>>16481350

-> >>16477898

>Do I really need to make an elaboration that potential shilling on boards has nothing to do with the actual game design, that every monster having an elemental weakness by itself in no way supports the assertion that elemental damage has been casualized (both premises can be true, but the point is that one doesn't directly follow from the other), that overreaching claims like "every new move is a crutch" without supporting evidence or nuance are dubious irrelevant nonarguments at best and reactionary outbursts at worst, that repetition or even outright contradiction to your previous arguments is counterproductive?

>>16481443

If I'm not wrong in my suspicion that the picture has originated from 4/mhg/, then it's more likely that it is just cancer leaking through the cracks.

>>16481350

>It's the same shit. You'd know that if you werent a nigger and read.

You couldn't even comprehend my 2 sentence post you retarded sack of shit.

I got tired of the AT monster BS eventually and just started coming up with easy strats to get the armor and layered armor as time went on.

I'm just looking forward to AT Nerg so i can finally have all the AT sets.

Meanwhile online everyones running around with (mostly) LS and has the L33t speed runner set with 4 piece Drachen with the Nerg head, yet they all eat shit constantly after the Temp mantle runs out.

Also forgot to mention everyones running around with HP+50 as the new tempered monster "random damage patch" screws everyone over.

Thanks Capcom.

>>16483797

Random damage patch made it so you need the extra health becajse Capcom really needed to limit DPS. Im surprised OP didn't highlight this shit tier fix to players murdering monsters so damn fast.

I'm liking World a bit, but it just feels too easy.

There are so any INVESTIGATIONS for shit like kill 10 Veptoids, why are there so god damn many. Also I miss not having a farm like in P3rd, it was one of my favorite things in the game, especially trying to break it. At this point I only have 1 spot for either plant/mushroom/honey that grows during one quest away. I just got to the Coral Highlands or whatever and I haven't died or fainted once. I also wish you could turn the scoutflies off and handler off too, the maps are not that large so I keep wondering why there should be a constant waypoint towards a monster, and no need for paintball follows. As I wrote this I guess I realized I'm starting to like it less and less.

>>16457526

I normally try not to be a devil's advocate but

>There's plenty ways to die with the mantle still on

>Doesn't evade roars and tremors

>With the hardest monsters who never stop moving it's kind of necessary at times

>>16485684

>plenty of ways

this amounts to "lunastra and vaal's environmental damage, chip damage from bad blocking or weak attacks, and fire/poison", all of which are very easy to survive because the mantle also covers you during eating/drinking animations. it's everything wrong with health booster but with none of the thought

>Doesn't evade roars or tremors

it evades anything that follows up on them even if you're locked into roar/wind stun

>With the hardest monsters who never stop moving it's kind of necessary at times

the game should not ever be balanced around mantles that dumb down everything else. it's a bad mechanic as a bandaid for bad fights

>>16485751

*roar/tremor stun

>>16456509

>Removing negative skills is bad

/vg not even once

I played through MHW (stopped right before deviljho update) and beat it all solo no problem. Greatsword was my weapon of choice. The other MH I gave the most amount of my time would be Tri, whose difficulty was in managing a series of menus rather than battling a boss.

MHW's game is really fluid but in reality, the game is very, very easy. As in, the game becomes so easy after the first playthrough that it becomes entirely trivial. I'm not even speaking of things like the evasion cloak or things like that because all I used was the flight cloak. I mean, the fact that mounting monsters is so incredibly easy and so useful that it becomes retarded not to do so at every opportunity it sapped the game of the thrill of the fight. In the crystal world there's a lot of three inch tall ledges (especially by the lava area) where you can hop off it and youll be ontop of the monster. You can do that ad nauseum.

The only semi difficult encounter becomes the trex guy since its the first actual difficulty spike.

I don't know, the game was fun and gave me 100+ hours of fun, but I wish they hadn't made the game so childishly easy. In Tri, facing a Diablos was a fucking nightmare, but I defeated the Diablos in my first try on world. They have the right idea with doing away with loading areas but for the love of christ they need to make the game a bit more difficult in some ways like no running bottledrink.

>>16481319

but then how will i win the war of attrition to convince beyond a pale of doubt a game is bad! can't you see its not right unless everyone thinks like me!

>>16485954

>use the cloak that makes mounting easier

>"the game is too easy because mounting is easy"

really makes me think

>>16486498

even if he didn't it's been shown via datamining that the values for a mount are significantly lowered compared to other games.

>>16486538

and mounting attacks are more powerful and spammable than ever

>>16486498

Flight suit for me is mostly about traveling fast over terrain. I find it ten times harder to mount from flight suit than just abusing small ledges or climbable vines.

>>16486577

it actually improves your mounting buildup regardless of whether you’re using the glide functionality or not, just as long as it’s active

Chain roaring is a thing in MHW and it fucking blows.

Example:

>Engage Odog

>Smack him and he'll do his roar after wind up

>Then he'll leave the area with a roar

>Bazel shows up and roars

>Dungbomb Bazel and he roars

>Odog roars at Bazel twice

>I begin to hate myself for doing this quest.

>Bazel HAS to roar before he leaves a zone

>Both of them leave the area only to meet up again.

The most vocal monsters of any MH game to date and HG Ears needs a significant investment, so everyones running the casual combo of Rocksteady+Temp mantle anyway.

>>16486577

Use the Assassins creed mantle for faster sprint and less stamina use

>>16487069

Odo and Jho is the same or worse since it constantly roars while waiting to be grabbed

>>16491670

>the franchise was moving towards healing while running

>dodging out of healing, moving while gunning not mentioned

>unimportant arguments shoved into areas that seem important and vice versa

>the devs behind it don't matter at all

>that awful note at the end

<if you don't like casualization or a series losing its identity, you don't care about truth, honesty and >integrity lol

<don't want to keep making the same arguments every fucking thread because players who started with world think it's the best MH ever? You're easily swayed and just parroting opinions!

The last note is correct, though.

It's an improvement, but not a big one.

>>16456509

I like World’s game play. Yes, I do dismiss all the complaints about making it easier. Anything that isn’t G rank should be casual baby mode for anyone who’s played the series for a long time anyway. Besides, what could anyone do to make the series harder that doesn’t amount to more tedium or grinding or fundamentally changing the game’s core mechanics?

But I still despise World and I don’t want to play it. Because the “epic” story gives me the feeling that World is a prototype to see if it’s possible to eventually homogenize MH to be like every other narrative-driven open world RPG with generic trashy anime plot, but with an MH skin. Considering the state of the AAA industry, even in Japan, there’s some credibility to this possibility.

I played World for a while. More departures from the core gameplay would've made it more fun. Like not feeling like you're only really moving while attacking. New features like the scout flies are absolutely terrible though.

>>16494888

>the franchise was literally moving towards healing while running

It wasn't moving figuratively in that direction either.

>What does "many actions can be dodged out" mean to you?

>Well, the word "other" could hint at not mentioned "dodging while healing", but the argument as is still covers that.

Dodging out of healing is a far more important argument than dodging out of sharpening, because sharpening has far lower priority than healing. Therefore, an unassuming reader would be led to believe that sharpening or less important actions can be canceled through dodging, not more important actions.

>Developer team composition is the main predictor of games quality

Nice strawman, but that's not what I said, which is "Developer team composition is a non negligible factor determining a game's quality." which should be fairly obvious.

>If one relies on peer pressure, accepted opinions and subpar reactionary arguments

Maybe you should make a strong argument for every person mentioning their dislike for MHW fulfilling these criteria.

>If one doesn't acknowledge, that the series was already moving towards casualization, while losing it's identity in the process

That's why MHXX and 4 were liked so much by anons, right?

>how MHW is bad solely because of that

And not the significantly reduced difficulty that was involved? Newer titles before world added casualizing aspects that influenced mainly the overall hunt and not the minute gameplay of it.

>I'm pretty sure that both of these apply for people who are vocal about their opinion, but also for the silent majority that doesn't challenge such people on their shit, generally being complacent.

And I'm pretty sure you started with either 4 or gen and have never visited a MH thread before world came out, otherwise you would have seen arguments debunking your talking points completely.

>If you are too lazy to come up with proper arguments or to collect and save proper arguments made by others into a text file

You mean exactly what was done when MHW was discussed here?

Calling your infographic shitty doesn't invalidate the points made on it. Though the pastebins had better quality, images are a better format to easily spread around websites, and there are enough real arguments on the picture to make a point.

>If you are […] relying on some faggots shitty infographic - your a're easily swayed

There is no logical connection here.

>and just parroting opinions,

funny considering you never even played MHW. If you can make educated guesses about the quality and impact of changes to game mechanics, why can't others?

>because you assume objective quality of someones argument depending on the extent you agree with subjective opinion that's being argued by them.

This does not follow from using someone else's infographic. You are proving to be every bit as blind and hypocritical as people who will accept every criticism of MHW just because it criticizes MHW, except in the context of talking about people disliking MHW.

>>16495070

it bears repeating that the casualisation in 4u/gen is a whole different kind of casual than what World goes for - overloaded and overpowered but having plenty to optimize in your play compared to the game playing itself or having attacks so dominant the moveset at large doesn’t matter

<Monster Hunter is a hardcore game.

>Slow gameplay.

>Most monster attacks have a large telegraph, and/or a learnable and easily exploitable pattern.

>Movesets the player has trouble with anyway mostly go away by wearing the right armor set.

Naw. Maybe if you're a total newb to a fight. I have only ever found MH difficult in the higher difficulty levels inflating monster HP and damage and sometimes AoE spam. And /v/ is still in consensus about these things being bad game design, as far as I know. Unless it's okay when Monster Hunter does it. So I applaud World for streamlining gameplay and removing some of the clunk usually mistaken for difficulty.

But why oh why is there still MMO levels of rng grinding in a singleplayer game with optional co-op? Why am I still spending time not advancing the game because I'm spending it grinding out materials for a new weapon type I wanted to try that's many HR ranks behind? World would've been a massive improvement in alleviating unnecessary grind because it has craftable charms, but then I find out Capcom made decorations the new charm grind instead! After five sequels, not including expansions, it's tiresome and puts away my desire for new Monster Hunter games.

>>16456509

>10,000 hours.

>Trusting reliable criticism to addicts shooing away any change so they may preserve the zenith of hedonism they felt one time that will disappear if they acknowledge one hair of change.

Nope. And that is how it works, because I’ve been there before.

>>16487069

>rocksteady+temp mantle combo

You didn't play the game much, did you?

Let me share a horror story from my 300+ hours of gameplay…

>low rank

>game's fun and exciting, looks the best it ever looked and the controls are very smooth

>way too easy for me and my buddy but we expected it, coming off from rank 140 monsters in 4U

>i-it's going to get harder, right?

>it doesn't get harder

>players eventually start bitching and capcom hears

>dlc 1 drops with devilijho, tempered jho is a force to be reckoned with

>over 50 tries to kill him a handful

>now that's done

>dlc 2 & 3 drop, kulve and lunastra

>game is fun again, challenging but not unfair, even the "teo, luna & nergi tempered" quest

>arch tempered bosses come around

>fuck my life

>to put it in perspective: any move that would normally severely damage you, is now a one shot, every move that used to mildy hurt now reduces you to very low health, and every tiny slap gives you a third of hp as damage

>on top of that they have specific mechanic reworked to be ten times as annoying

>flashbang usage limited to 1 or 2 PER BATTLE

>immediately more than half of the previously available tactics become pointless

>enemies have twice if not more times their HP

>downtime is sped up, you can literally see them play the "struggle" animation in fast forward, including being grounded

>rocksteady is a death sentence, since the aggression is maxed, and you CANNOT take two hits, meaning you want the enemy to throw you away with his first hit in any possible scenario

>most weapon attacks are now too risky to perform, making the battle even more dragged on

>plunge attacks get executed less often, and riding the boss is naturally harder to begin with

>somehow manage to kill every one of them a sufficient amount of times to craft good gear

>final fantasy DLC drops

>the single most tankiest enemy the series ever had

>speedruns of him to day aren't shorter than 9 minutes to date

>the quest requires a competent team if you don't plan on wasting thousands of hours learning how to solo

>he has an attack that can cart the whole team if not careful

>having to play with randoms made me unable to ever finish it

>as a final mockery, the final fantasy theme never stops overwriting the main hub's theme until you finish the quest

But there's more. Now there's a geralt dlc out.

Should i continue?

>>16499364

>You didn't play the game much, did you?

1633 hours and HR994. Seen it all. Done it all.

Just stopping by to say that MHFU was my first, and favourite MH title. To make the best game in the series all they'd have to do is change animations to match MHFU hitboxes. Anyone who disagrees is wrong because my opinion is all that matters.

>>16504847

>I'm really unable to play anything else other than GS.

Why are you putting that guy down after saying something like this?

>>16498169

I'd say it still feels a lot like monster hunter to me. I can't in good faith say that to me, it's not monster hunter anymore. I'm fine with other people feeling that way. I've got thousands of hours in the series going back over a decade. A lot of the movesets are similar enough to what they are in genult that they don't feel wrong (at least to me). I can see that people might not like environmental traps or the slingers, but most slinger ammo sucks ass (imo). I do dislike temporal mantle and refuse to really use it, but it thankfully has a short enough uptime and long enough cd that you can't rely on it to win the hunt.

One thing I at least like is that it's not taking the place of other monster hunter games either, as they've said, since they're already working on more non world MH titles. If anything, it feels more like monster hunter to me than frontier. I'm completely fine with people disagreeing with me.

>>16505363

Hammer is fun. I'm sure there's some low rank and village quests you haven't cleared, why not use a diffrerent weapon for those?

It's nice to see some actual thought out criticisms on the game mechanics by someone who actually played it instead of the post-modern artistic hipster garbage 'reviews' gaming writers use to ramble about whatever bizarre caffeine fever idea they had after their sixth soy latte.

>>16505363

I can use a bunch of other weapons fine but I always fucking use GS because I like it the best. I tried shield and sword, gunlance, spear, hammer and switch axe but none really stuck like the great sword did.

>>16505402

Being more Monster Hunter than Frontier isn’t a high bar to meet.

How do I make friends in mhw? Harder than in 4u.

>>16507892

Arena is 2p with no SOS or drop in. I had success with arena lobbies.

>>16495135

M8, do you understand the difference between an instance and a trend? The point that's being argued is that if ones issue isn't the latter (since the arguments would otherwise be consistent with the agenda), but the former, then stating that it's the latter - is dishonest. Even if a trend could be attributed for being the issue, it's better to stay consistent and prove in general terms an instance to be bad on it's own, as you did to an extent with each provided example.

>>16497725

>in the higher difficulty levels inflating monster HP and damage and sometimes AoE spam

>And /v/ is still in consensus about these things being bad game design, as far as I know

You either haven't played on the higher difficulty levels or being disingenuous, since that's nowhere close to describing what transition to g rank actually does to the monsters.

>Why am I still spending time not advancing the game because I'm spending it grinding out materials for a new weapon type I wanted to try that's many HR ranks behind?

Because you are conflating things that you could get with things that you actually need. However I can't speak for sure about World in that regard, maybe there are no options of getting on par equipment without grinding.

>>16498169

Agree with most if not all of what is said.

>Someone who didn’t even play the game and bickers about argumentative rhetoric for bullet point pictures?

Hey, unlike you, who's being complacent with producing and magnifying levels of trash across the board, I'm trying to quality control here.

>>16497619

Pre-3rd gen lance moveset is awful imho. DS is probably fine, but I don't really see much point in using them without a steady supply of DJ.

>>16504847

>>not wanting to master the one you feel the most at ease with, in any situation

>not mastering all the weapons guaranteeing yourself fun times regardless of a generation, not getting stuck with your main weapon turning dogshit due to nerfs

>I'm really unable to play anything else other than GS

fyi imo tbh smh fam

>>16505105

I wonder if you are baiting for me specifically, because pretty much no one else would disagree with you.

>>16505457

>It's nice to see some actual thought out criticisms on the game mechanics by someone who actually played it

Who are you talking about, because for people which have created the OP picture that certainly doesn't apply.

Playing the new monster hunter on the switch. Is it possible to hunt alone or are teams required? It feels as if i'm missing an essential element.

Thought about balancing moving while healing a while back with smell. Now hear me out. Potions stink like alcohol. So a monster with smell the opening when you take a swig either while standing still (chugging fast, and flex for instant heal, or when you're jogging (the pot increases your red bar to what your health would heal max, but gradually fills over time). If you get hit while moving then the rest of the pot is lost. Exception is max potion and ancient potions which are pills you have to stand still to chew and swallow. Similar effect can be given to dash juice and energy drinks. Though rations and steak you have to stand still to eat. Demon Drug and Armorskin have to be rubbed on face while standing still for the effect to apply (only takes 3 seconds total, small price to pay for an effect that ends at hunt). Pills and seeds you can swallow quickly for potent boosts.

>>16510015

You can do either. Multiplayer is in the Hunting Hub which is behind the village. It's a separate list of quests scaled to multiplayer but they can be played offline single player.

>thread on why monster hunter world sucks

>ctrl + f

>denuvo

>2 results

Actually I'm glad it has denuvo. I was planning on getting it when it came out on PC because I had friends that really wanted to play it and it didn't look too awful and dumbed down. Of course when I actually started looking into the game that didn't hold up. So I got out of wasting money and time on paraplegic baby's first Monster Hunter.

>>16509734

Not baiting, I just stop in to most MH threads to state that I love MHFU and consider it the current pinnacle of MH thus far. I replay the whole thing every year on an emulator because the pain from the claw grip is something I can live without.

>>16510218

The one thing I wish XX on Switch would have is analog stick attacks. I remember Tri on Wii had stick attack like original MonHun. The only huge drawback was no clickies to shoot bowgun. Then again with hunting arts I'm unsure of how tilt attacks would work with hunting art controls mapped to D-pad. I've been using left stick click to sheath+dash more than I should. Mostly because I find the zoomed in mini-map useless with target cam. I just briefly glance at the map to look at which zone the monster is in.

>>16510409

>dark souls unfair mechanics

<probably never played past NG

>MonHun anything below G rank

>difficult

Are you trying to pull my leg?

>>16510400

There was also a smooth grace with tilting the stick to correspond to which move you want to perform. You don't slam the stick in the same direction over and over again. You can quarter moon, zig zag, halfmoon, and other stick maneuvers to pull off crazy dual blade combos. Though in Tri's case it was SnS and Switch Axe combos for me.

>>16510438

nigger dark souls is easy as fuck as long as you are not a retard that can't pay attention to your surroundings.

>>16457540

Agreed

Literally wall of griping. I could take any of those statements and aay good instead of bad and theyd be equally valid. Very little even qualitative info there

Stay mad fags!

>>16510492

No shit. Everything through high rank is basically the tutorial.

>>16510492

Fuck off Tempered Deviljho and Behemoth were complete and total bullshit when it came to difficulty, they gave me much more trouble than I had with The Masters Test and Mark of a Hero.

I even use armorsets geared toward max damage and use weapons that have the most maneuverability yet I still get my shit slapped sideways/

Also dont forget about village alatreon from MH3U.

It was a HR monster yet it with each attack it would cut through my G-Rank armor like fucking butter and it has an insane pool of health so fighing it is pretty much a war of attrition both physically and mentally.

>>16510530

>being this wrong

why do you keep hopping ID's anon?

>>16510524

Yes, and anything before NG+7 SL1 is also the tutorial.

>>16510539

Dark Souls never gets hard though. It's piss easy.

>>16510539

>your only argument is ">being this wrong"

Whatever anon. I played the games for myself and each for hundreds of hours so I am more than credible enough to express my thoughts about these things.

Have you ever fought tempered Deviljho or the Behemoth? Can you tell where I'm coming from?

Also G-rank isnt even hard once you get proper G-rank armor, its just another rank just like low rank or high rank at that point.

>>16510551

As long as you level up your stamina and vitality and not play like a drooling retard the game is pretty fair. The library in DS3 seemed kinda bullshit to me though, thats not even about difficultly thats just downright gay.

>>16510551

Sound like you never played the game and are just being a try hard.

>>16510563

>each for hundreds of hours so I am more than credible enough to express my thoughts about these things

Man you must have no life. But at least you are honest enough to admit MonHun is piss easy I mean it in fact easier then Dark Souls for the most part.

>>16510575

>Sound like you never played the game and are just being a try hard.

Sounds like you never learned from your mistakes and are just a drooling, reddit tier, retard.

>>16510604

You can pretend not to be a retarded nigger all you want; you are not fooling anyone though.

fuck this board

>>16510492

They managed to make a three button system work. Don't forget R. Now my question is how should I make stick controls work with charge blade and insect glaive?

>>16510633

Can I get a threesome with Vivian and Erin instead? And play Monster Hunter together? Fucking /v/ isn't my style.

How do you guys feel about Dauntless?

>>16510729

>stick controls work with charge blade and insect glaive

good point. I guess you could still use one of the shoulder buttons to toggle but I can't really imagine it properly atm.

>>16457577

Not being able to distinguishing people faces is a sign on autism anon.

>>16456513

>second image

You don't need to lure the monster away from uneven terrain, you just don't have to be a retard and learn how to position yourself to be able to hit the monster. I never had much trouble hitting weakspots, even at sloped/uneven areas, to the point where I felt forced to lure the monster away from there.

Arguing for exclusively flat ground because you suck at the game is fucking stupid.

As for the list in the OP, there are a few points which I don't agree with and believe are flat out wrong, like for example:

>the tirade about stupid randoms luring the monster away from your favored position

I'd argue that restricting map design to just flat ground because the stupid randoms don't do as you want them to is the stupidest complaint I've seen about World. Randoms being idiots luring the monster away (for example towards zone transitions) has always been a problem, and to argue that Capcom should bend over and make maps flat because you are too shit to fight on uneven terrain is just as stupid as the randoms themselves are. Either learn to play or kick randoms if you are too stupid to do that.

>sliding happens on flat ground or uphills

In my experience, it is the other way around, there are slopes where sliding doesn't happen at all even if you'd expect it to happen. That said, I don't play Hammer, so maybe that's a problem for that weapon in particular.

>monsters standing in the air due to unpolished vertical maps

I certainly haven't seen that ever happening. I suppose it could happen (after all there is other shit like falling through the map), but it certainly is the most uncommon thing to happen.

>Clunky item wheel

I don't see the problem with the item wheel. The default setting (release stick to use the item) sucks, but if you change it in the settings to use the item when pressing the stick button, it works exactly as you'd expect, and is quite helpful at cutting down on time spent scrolling through the item bar.

>chugging motion takes longer so you have to wait in front of a cliff

The chugging motion is barely slower (exactly 0.5 seconds, in fact) than the entire drink + flex animation, and the fact you can walk/run towards your destination while drinking means it overall cuts down on time spent not moving towards your destination.

>three monster per area makes them much more common

Not really, maps are way larger, so the monsters are spread out farther. Monsters also always stagger each other with their attacks now, so having more than one monster in an area is even easier to handle than ever before. Monsters reacting to other monster screams has been a thing in previous titles before, like how the Rath's always summon each other in quests involving both of them. Bazelgeuse also is almost guaranteed to flee instantly when hit with dung, so the strategy for dealing with more than one monster if you can't handle it is completely unchanged

>Even easier mounting

Actually, we are back to 4/4U mounting values, but I guess if you are used to Generations nerfing them, it comes across as if it was made even easier than it ever was. I don't disagree though, and think the initial mounting thresholds are too low.

>Enviroment is helpful towards the player

Also not necessarily a point I disagree with, but I felt the need to mention that up to this point, the complaints about the maps was that they are too hostile for the player when it comes to fighting monsters ("fighting on slopes is too hard"), so that this point would come up is somewhat hilarious to me.

>Essential gear locked behind a time frame

The gear is only essential to take on the other event quests, all the content not locked behind is not balanced around the event armor. Also, with the Drachen set existing, I'd hardly call gear like the Dante legs essential. You pretty much only see Drachen since it is so hilariously broken, or gamma armor, which as I mentioned before is only really "essential" for certain ATEDs

>No offline unless you turn off the internet

Maybe I'm stupid, but I fail to see the problem. Whether you are online or offline doesn't really affect playing solo at all, and it's not like the game boots you if you lose connection while playing. You can still make lobbies that prevent people from joining you, so you are never forced to deal with people intruding on your session.

>Radial menu is tied to item set

Again, not something I disagree with, but I'm wondering how that is a regression, when the previously the item wheel didn't even exist in the first place. There needs to have been something before in order to regress.

Other than that, the other stuff is things I agree with, or things where I somewhat agree or disagree, but can't think of anything interesting to say about it. I'm assuming this is just a collection of comments made in another thread, and not made by one person, so all comments are addressed at whoever made the original comment.

All of these games are reskins with incremental updates, there isn't a 'best' mh since the games were always multiplayer shovelware comparable to EA shit, the one differentiating thing about it is that it isn't niggerball, pachinko or mahjong.

>>16511719

I think they can work with stick if done right. Hold R and click stick to shoot a pheromone bullet. Also tap up on the stick any time to pole vault. For CB axe mode you can tap up on stick for AED or tap down for SAED. Up in SnS mode is the shield punch. Stick controls probably give you more control over your weapon at the expense of camera control.

>>16513089

That's an objective fact, there isn't enough to differentiate these damn games, the sequels are practically WoW expansion packs, complete with people complaining about casualization and ruined gameplay elements.

>>16514570

there's actually 8-10 new monsters in GenUltimate, and cutscenes. I'll say im not a fan of the hunting styles but atleast they arent as bad as the crutchiest equipment shit in world, or those gem sets you can make that heal you while dealing damage and just makes the game acasual mess.

GenU is way behind 4U in quality as its just a greatest hits of the series but its still better than that dogshit world

>>16514755

Capcom is the equivalent of EA of Japan, ie they run everything into the ground. I'm just regurgitating general consensus, not my fault you're a scenefag.

>>16514531

sauce

>>16514770

Since MM11, DMC5, and REmake2 Capcom seems to have learned their lesson of who their core audience is. For how long they'll keep that lesson is up in the air, but for now Capcom is nowhere near EA levels of bullfuckery.

>>16514783

MH is shovelware, I'm sorry you can't accept that, I don't enjoy wasting my time with garbage just because retards like you feel the need to belong to a fandom of a corporate product like a lemming.

I want to brave charge blade in XX. Are there any armors that benefit chage blade that look cute on female hunter?

She's a pale girl with bronze-copper twintails and green eyes with a pissed off fairy voice.

>>16509732

>the changes that made previous games easier were just QoL improvements

You're putting words in my mouth again. For the reason why World's changes are different, see >>16495070 "Newer titles before world added casualizing aspects that influenced mainly the overall hunt and not the minute gameplay of it."

>While I could argue with you on what's more important

Unless you are one shot from full health by most attacks, using danger skills/food skills or relying on stunlocks, healing is objectively more important than sharpening. There is no argument to be made here.

>That's not how strawmanning works.

That is exactly how strawmanning works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

>A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.

>since the infog is called "WHY MHW/ICEBORNE SUCKS" it's fallacious to make a "why it could suck" claim as a foundational argument.

The B-team being the developer means redeeming features the game might have otherwise had will not be implemented. At the same time, the balancing is being done by the same people that balanced X/XX. Both factors can be expected to lower the quality of the game. Since the cutoff point for "sucks" isn't clearly defined, negative factors on game quality are relevant to the infographic.

>since the initial claim is stating about those types of people in general

Due to your poor grasp on the english language, you fail to see that your initial claim can be interpreted in two ways:

People who are hating on MHW | in general represent …

People who are hating on MHW in general | represent …

The former is grammatically incorrect, so I naturally interpreted it as the latter. Still, you have not made a strong argument for either interpretation. inb4 I used weasel words so I don't have to

>just what could be observable in this thread

The posters ITT are a small fraction of the anons on 8chan who dislike MHW. How did you come to the conclusion they are representative of the majority of MHW haters on the entire internet? That's easy, >>16495070

>You are proving to be every bit as blind and hypocritical as people who will accept every criticism of MHW just because it criticizes MHW, except in the context of talking about people disliking MHW.

>4 is pretty much considered the best game of the series

Non sequitur. 4 was still critisized.

>The fuck are you smoking to say these things one after another straightfaced.

Learn to read and write, for that matter English you fucking retard. You are picking my sentences out of context and grossly misinterpreting them. Firstly, the "significantly" in my second statement is what differentiates the two and prevents contradiction. I never once mentioned QoL changes because they are irrelevant to the discussion.

>Also, the fuck them being minute has to do with anything

THE MINUTE GAMEPLAY WAS CHANGED

NOT MINUTE CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE GAMEPLAY

AN OVERALL HUNT IS LONG, CHANGES REGARDING IT ARE NOT VERY SIGNIFICANT

MINUTE GAMEPLAY IS SHORT-TERM GAMEPLAY, CHANGES MADE TO IT ARE EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT

>>16509732

>>16517395

>have actually stopped visiting MH threads when World came out

Oh, so you're the illiterate ESL pro-MHW shitposter. It's no wonder you're so resistant to arguments and criticism.

>you having no problem using argument of "what was", about "what is"

Except it was your argument that MHW haters are hypocritical because they didn't mind casualization before MHW.

>>Calling out shitty arguments doesn't invalidate the points that are truthful.

You're strawmanning again. What I said was:

>Calling your infographic shitty doesn't invalidate the points made on it.

You never called out shitty arguments on your infographic. In fact, you removed the weakest arguments from the original one to make it. If you addressed this note to users of the original infographic your point would stand, but you didn't. Therefore you are completely wrong.

>I have never stated that they can't, I've stated that they won't as long as x is true.

And you haven't proven your accusation in any way.

>SHITTY infographic

What exactly makes the infographic you posted shitty specifically? What qualities of a shitty infographic make what was mentioned above true? Why does your edit of the infographic fulfill those criteria?

>Tell me is that a honest mistake

I already outlined what dislike about your edit. These points are bad enough for me to call it shitty, but this is completely unrelated to the arguments themselves.

>or it's you approaching my arguments in bad faith?

Unlike you, I'm not. I'm not strawmanning the arguments of my opponent and the only assertions I made were not the core of my arguments and were intended as banter. Meanwhile you are throwing around assertions left and right, acting hypocritical, misrepresenting arguments and taking things out of context.

>my empirical detachment from the subject matter

You are lying through your fucking teeth.

It's also ironic that you claim people who are using your infographic have poor communication skills when your own grasp of the English language is so poor.

>>16515037

>not using the wacky kungfu voice

Mildly subpar taste, famaloni jabroni.

>>16517452

Doesn't match my theme of Irish fairy. Probably should go LBG instead. Though I'm having too much fun with brave CB.

>>16514755

I'm not really sure what argument you're having but mh3u was the last real mh game. 4 and X was a transistional period where a bunch of the key elements were thrown out to appeal to a greater audience but the game was still made on the same base as the rest of the series so they were still within the realm of monster hunter albeit very different in actual execution. Probably why there are so many vocal big guy fans.

>>16515037

>>16517520

Brave charge is about as good as your taste in waifus.

Which is a solid 'eh' I guess.

I can't think of any skills that make use of it though, brave doesn't really need Guard+, I guess maybe load up is about the only unusual skill that might be usable. Otherwise it's just buff crit, attack and sharpness as is usual in double crossed. I vaguely recall that the chaos shroom body piece was an easily accessibly 3slot piece which made it good for lazy torso up sets. It's really more chinese style than anything but I suppose it might fit a drunken fairy theme.

>>16517401

>>16517395

>You're strawmanning again.

That's called reframing, not strawmanning. Both are reforming an argument in some way, but the former is used to find common ground and the latter to cause disagreement. You could disagree with a reframed argument and agree with a strawman, but that wouldn't change their intention.

>You never called out shitty arguments on your infographic.

-> >>16476321 ?

>What exactly makes the infographic you posted shitty specifically?

That's besides the point, it's my initial premise, from which I make my arguments, you may disagree with it, making the conclusions made from it undetermined, but it won't invalidate the actual logical jump from one to the other. If you want to argue that me making some specified conclusion from the premise that "it's a shitty infographic" is illogical, then first you would need to (for example "for the sake of argument") accept the premise, because otherwise your argumentation wouldn't make sense.

>I made were not the core of my arguments and were intended as banter.

I don't think it's working out, you assert that I'm something and make conclusions about my character, I in response assert that you are something and make conclusions about you. If it's not core of your argument, then I'd propose we'd drop that and stick to the issue, since I don't think it's leading us anywhere. As for misrepresentation and taking things out of context, let's blame that on miscommunication.

>You are lying through your fucking teeth.

I don't understand what you are implying here. If you believe that my words can't be trusted (even for the sake of argument), then continuing to engage with me is the most retarded thing one could think of, unless you believe yourself to be clairvoyant, thinking that you know me and everything I do, making any possible act of deception from my side - completely impossible to succeed and out of question.

In any other case, stating that I'm lying would be grossly inaccurate.

>It's also ironic that you claim people who are using your infographic have poor communication skills when your own grasp of the English language is so poor.

I don't disagree.

>>16518092

Lance got a buff to counter in 4? That was meaningful enough to make it on par with e+3? Guild completion for village quests has been a thing since FU I think, barring that since 3U. What's wrong with wycoon specifically? Aside from featuring some of the most disney-cartoon tier tech out of just about any of the stylistically disgusting stuff from 4.

The biggest question however is why you're even deigning a worldposter with a response. Ah, well I suppose I'm guilty too at this point, but I would like to plead ignorance having only read that single line about 3U.

>>16517824

Light bowgun might be better theming for fairy. Might be better to go viking themed for CB. Artillery Novice damage increases phial damage. Sharpness helps but brave is about phial abuse. It's stupid easy to charge phials in brave state. About two shield punches in brave charges yellow. You can also special attack to shield punch at stand still. Or you can dodge then shield punch immediately in brave state. Which I find useful for guard points. Blue shield has as much power as red shield but loses the explosive blocks. Absolute evade or readiness at SP works well keeping up brave. I'm not a fan of abusing full SAED. It's worthless without over limit. So AEDs are much more efficient after the triple elemental swing.

>>16518346

>and arena challenges (for the former I think it wasn't even required to succeed at the quest).

For the latter of course.

>>16518346

Well shit might as well mention that in tri you had fucking 'unlimited counters'' then since the restriction of needing a poke left in your current combo string to be able to counter didn't exist. Plus guard+2 has existed since portable, getting 5/10/15 extra skill slots on a lance set is great and all but it hardly compares to absolute readiness tier evasion frames that e+3 gives you or lmao GPSAED counter. Oh yeah, I was thinking of the luna quests in FU and the ivory lag/azure los/something quest in 3U but thinking on it it was probably just 'clear all village'. The thing about the wycoon sounds like bullshit though, the mat exchange rates were garbage and playing the upgrade path by planning sets in advance was something you could always do. Having access to a completely inefficient single additional armor set that doesn't even have good skills compared to the set the main monster mats reward you is nothing other than a bit flavour.

Lastly there's absolutely nothing wrong with ignoring pilpul posters that exist ony to draw out (you)s or advertise a game. Because we know for a fact that capcom has been hiring 'Community Managers' to target english speaking groups for a long time now and I'm pretty sure at least one of you is talking about the OP image.

>>16518092

>>16518093

<casualizing minute gameplay

Counter buff for lance, extremely casual village quests (edge case, could also be filed under overall hunt), endgame AoE bullshit

<changes casualizing minute gameplay that can easily be made impossible to trigger during any hunt

CB, IG (both just have balancing issues), Ev+3 Lance, increased average skill count

<casualizing the overall hunt

Mounting, exhaustion

<not directly related to casualization

guild completion requirements for unlocking solo quests, wycoon material trading, ledges and uneven terrain, apex monsters

The casualizing changes to minute gameplay that are forced upon the player only affect a small portion of the game. The changes to healing and overall increased mobility of weapons are universal and have a drastic impact. And again, these changes were and are being criticised e.g. on this site when the discussion comes up. FU is still recommended in discussions about Monster Hunter.

>I never implied it was your argument

Then why did you ask me to prove said argument?

>but not directly along side other points that are intended to directly support the main assertion.

Fair enough, but following that logic means none of the claims regarding Iceborne can be put in the infographic since the expansion hasn't been released yet and might still change, e.g. the line about reused assets you added (left column, bottom). This would make the graphic about MHW only, which is obviously not the stated intent of the picture. Therefore, "why Iceborne might suck" is a relevant topic.

>not a single person has called it out for being dishonest, inaccurate or using fallacious arguments

Only 4 people stated explicitly or implicitly they agree with the infographic. 3 People didn't agree with points on the infographic and far more people simply stated their honest opinion of the game while ignoring the graphic entirely. This argument is invalid.

>you are just jumping to conclusions for the purpose of aligning me with a side which you would have no problem engaging with in a dishonest way. Because otherwise it serves no other point in conversation whatsoever.

In the first instance I was replying to your assertion with an assertion. While I did label you, this was completely irrelevant to the points I made and I readily discussed your arguments regardless.

>>So, you are pro-MHW

I was simply recognizing you as one specific poster from MHG, who happily dismissed many of the arguments presented to him in a way several anons didn't agree with.

>Casualization premise implies a trend, and while there is small chance that authors of the picture used it naively

Please try to rephrase this. What do you mean by "Casualization premise" and "it"? How does this tie into the discussion?

>but I would say there is nuance that would hint at that not being the case

I would say this nuance is simply subjective bias, but I'm not really interested in discussing this further.

>reframing

is looking at the same argument from another context. Did you mean rephrasing? You were not rephrasing since the quotes are semantically different.

>-> >>16476321 ?

Shitty points on >>16491670 , since that was the edit I was criticizing. Reread >>16517401 "If you addressed this note to users of the original infographic your point would stand, but you didn't."

>but it won't invalidate the actual logical jump from one to the other.

This jump does not exist without side conditions. For example if an infographic is shitty because the formatting and font is poor but the arguments are sound.

>I don't understand what you are implying here.

Sorry, I picked that one out and forgot the context while writing my post. You are not detached from the matter of MHW detractors, even if you are from the game.

As for improving the pic:

>lobby system into online play category

>healing while running into balance issues

>add a point about gem grinding into awful design

>remove the notes

>add point about non-elemental making elements useless while being available as gem into balance issues

>>16519331

>Then why did you ask me to prove said argument?

Because as I've said previously it wouldn't logically follow if left as is. Again, for the context, something something development being a crucial factor to determining the quality of the product doesn't directly establish the quality of said product, nor directly supports a case of that nature. It may be a viable of explanation why the game turned out to be as it currently is, but it can't be said with 100% certainty that it's the reason or one of the reasons why.

>Fair enough, but following that logic means none of the claims regarding Iceborne can be put in the infographic

In general, you are correct, but until proven otherwise I assume that a person that tries to convey some message or prove a point is speaking truth and has some level of integrity (listen & believe). In other words in this case my assumption is that the person or the people have analyzed the trailers and made reasonable assessment based on monster animations that those are just reused assets (skeletons, movesets, etc). The point bears no traces of the original argument, because original is all over the place and struggles to provide required level of clarity without shitting its pants.

Additionally I've provided a caveat/weasel words "from what it looks like" relinquishing some level of certainty expected of an argument.

>This argument is invalid.

Don't see how my argument is invalid, since people that did agree didn't mind the fallacies, inaccuracies and to some level dishonesty, given how the picture is in the OP post and made the focus of the thread - most were complacent (and even then if we assume that most people treat this thread just as an mhg, the part of "neutral" ones that didn't exclusively think that way - were 100% complacent) and some that did disagree, have disagreed on the notion of the entire premise being wrong thus chose not to engage with the opposing view entirely, going for contradiction instead (potentially indirectly hinting at the picture being so bad that they chose to ignore it altogether).

While it is impossible to make a completely certain statement about any community, I believe, that to an extent of certainty that could be achieved - my argument is sound. Look at it like this. People that hate on the MHW are the vocal majority, that sets the course of conversation in general in generals (and have some influence on the subject matter outside of the containment threads too), people that oppose the consensus directly, given how extreme the initial view is - are expected and dealt with as extremists of the other end, and the ones that would be neutral on the subject or in slight disagreement - just couldn't bother being treated inadequately (i.e. put into one of the extreme camps) for pointing out seemingly obvious things until there is some kind of force or disturbance that would disrupt the established order of things, that would take away the focus from them and create some leeway for expressing some grey area opinions.

>this was completely irrelevant

If something is completely irrelevant it's entirely wasteful bringing it up in the first place.

I would never ever claim any of my actions to be meaningless (especially as justification), only that they can be ineffective.

>I was simply recognizing you as one specific poster from MHG

Again, unless you believe that I'm not trustworthy, it's impossible for me to be the MHW poster of any side, since as I've said - I've stopped visiting the threads altogether the moment MHW have become the main focus of discussion.

>Did you mean rephrasing?

No, I've meant reframing, as in restructuring the argument beyond its initial meaning, accommodating it to a context that I could agree with. Obviously I wasn't restating you arguments just in a different way, but never have I claimed to be doing that.

>For example if an infographic is shitty because the formatting and font is poor but the arguments are sound.

Sure, but the exact side conditions that would allow the jump were already established, hence why your example doesn't directly apply.

Sure, you could've been uncertain with your interpretation of those side conditions, but that would be the opposite to holding a strong belief that the jump is impossible.

>>16457477

>>16463822

Dragon's Dogma has the worst hitboxes ever. Also, no multiplayer.

>>16457505

What's the problem with RE2 and Mega Man 11?

>>16457527

Yeah because guarding is just that good.

>>16457540

Don't forget how mad we all are over how it's no longer a nintendo game. >>16505379 didn't.

>>16522606

At least you can make lolis.

What's with fags always derailing MHW criticism by bringing up Dragon's Dogma?

Every.Single.Thread.

>>16524466

capcuck shills, ignore them

>>16524469

Funny how they need to defend the game by using dirty tricks instead of providing real arguments.

I remember when I first saw MHW, I hadn't played a MH game ever and even then the game seemed… off.

Then I started played MH3U, compared some of the monsters and jesus christ, what the fuck have they done to their AI.

Barroth seems like he has been lobotomized.

>>16456558

i've been trying but jesus fuck are some classes downright boring

>>16514531

Thank you for reading my post. You did read it, right? May I ask you where I defended babymode overhauls though? I only defended:

>uneven terrain

which I doubt makes the game easier, based on the complaints some fags on here have about that, also MH4 already added that, so it isn't even uniquely a World problem

>sliding happening when you don't want it to happen

simply doesn't happen in my experience

>the item wheel being clunky

I don't find it to be clunky to use

>Chugging motion takes longer

It barely takes longer, which why it is even more insulting that they allow you to run while using it

>three monsters per map makes them too common

I pointed out that it doesn't happen as often, and also pointed out that they are easier to deal with. I never said anything about this being a good thing.

>easier mounting

I literally said it's too easy

>Environment is helpful

Again, I literally said I don't disagree with that point, I merely pointed out that all the other points up until there were complaints about stuff making the game harder, so a complaint about making the game easier after all that is hilarious to me

>Essential gear is time-locked

I think I made it clear that the implication is that the game is already easy enough without the most broken gear in the game, so it isn't essential

>No offline

Can you tell me what the problem is? Refer to my original post for those points >>16512845

>Radial menu tied to item sets

Doesn't even have to do with difficulty or casualization

The problem is that you are an actual faggot that can't read, you just saw that I disagreed with any of the things listed, and got triggered.

The fact that I said I don't disagree with the other points, as well as the specific points where I said I don't disagree with were all difficulty related, and you may have realized that I dislike World as well, especially because of its low difficulty.

>>16531398

New list, new thread

sage

>>16531432

I hate you and everything you stand for. Get a real job instead of sucking off capcom's gangrenous cock every day for the pennies you use to buy your precious soy milk.

>>16531598

Great at least you finally learnt how to change IDs. So how much did this post earn you? Don't forget to order your bottle opener so you don't hurt your hands screwing the cap off.

>>16531601

Nah, fuck off, this is probably my first post in this thread, i hold this opinion for a long time already.

>>16514864

is that rem's pussy wrapped around the dude's cock or a ballsack?

>>16531885

>rem

>>16531885

that's a boy from Made in Abyss

Aerial insect glaive might not be the ideal speed runner weapon. But damn it is fun.

where do I find Great Hornfly in MonHun GU?

You only needed one

>Capcom

>>16533615

I'm sorry that you can't handle a monster woman.

>>16533587

Find bugs with Meownster Hunters. Cats have to find it for you. I think they are in tundra and volcano.

>>16533814

Thanks anon, 'll give it a try but I am desperate for concrete answers. I want to finish building my Butterfly armor. Google search says farming them from the Trade Post by requesting items from the bug Category but because they are a Rarity 5 Item I am having zero luck.

The wiki that is usually helpful has jack shit on where to find them.

http://mhgen.kiranico.com/item/great-hornfly

I just read now on the mon hun fandom wiki they spawn in Verdant Hills. Hopefully one of these locations bears fruit

>>16533950

Sorry I'm thinking of Dracophage bugs. I'm dealing with a cat in labor right now. Yeah you get those from trading bugs, not honey or nectar. Using high level cats and Lagniapples are a must. High rank you get bigger apples which increases odds.

Can wyverians reproduce with humans?

>>16530325

tl;dr

still a nigger

>>16456509

Denuvo is not on the first line, so I think it's pretty wrong

What they showed of icebourne has me yawning, been playing mhgu due to world just getting stale, I’m honestly hoping A team is working on a Switch title or something. Seems odd to dump the portable market

Wait are you actually surprised that a Crapcom game is a cheaply made cash grab? I figured this one out back in the late 90's when they would make you pay $60 again every time they added 4 new characters to Street Fighter. It was about the time that I was super excited for Street Fighter x Tekken and bought the game only to find out that even though all the characters were on the disc, half of them were inaccesible unless you paid even more money. Chopping up your game and selling the parts for a premium is some of the douchiest corporate bullshit ever. I swore I wouldn't ever buy another Crapcom product. Fuck Crapcom.

Please crapcom make a real monster hunter for the bing bing wahoo machine already. the more I see of Iceborn the less I ever want to play world again.

>>16540936

MH3U was the best MH game.

MH4U was the last good MH game.

MHGU was the last MH game.

>>16540939

>MonHun Freedom Unite not best MonHun

Anon you are full of shit because 3U wasn't that good and GU isn't that bad. You don't have to be a contrarian just to be a contrarian.

>>16540947

FU is busted old shit with boring robot monsters compared to every game that came after it.

>>16540959

>busted old robot monsters

but anon that is true of all Classic Mon Hun games until World.

>>16540962

prettier animations does not make fights like anjanath any less clunky

>>16540986

>taking the statement out of context from the broader dialog

nigger

>>16541068

I don’t understand how it’s out of context. Monsters behave largely the same and still have dumb shit just like old times. Animations are less clearly stop and go, but behave the same