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>>16450158

Things, people and events are represent as cards, but you don't play it like a card game. There's no "turns" or a graveyard/deck.

>No magnet

I really have no interest in this. I pirated Slay the Spire, but that's getting rather dull now. This just looks like it's a huge stress with all the timers and shit.

>no magnet

another typical shill thread, as usual, kikes like you aren't around, i wish hitler was around to gas all these hand rubbers trying to sell me a shit videogame

>>16450186

>>16450188

The only magnets I found don't have the most recent patch, and the game is quite boorish without it. I can leave a link if I find something more recent, but the game is slated to have another DLC this month, so I'd wait for that before pirating.

>>16450158

It's an RPG that uses cards. Obviously, there are much better RPGs out there, but this certainly shits on any DnD-based RPG.

>>16450206

>an RPG

I… guess you could call it that. But you don't really have a similar progression to RPG's, despite sharing some smilarities (stat growth, "combat") and whatnot.

Also, latest magnet link I could find was this:

https://skip.az/full/?api=5b696b63d1c20099a619a5427dadec7026191ab2&type=2&url=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

If it doesn't have the new research mechanics / Headquarters, you're stuck with it until another pirate uploads something, most likely by the end of the month with the new DLC.

>>16450211

Disregard this, this one is more recent, and isn't some polish ad.fly clone.

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8025a17ef78fabe7925c54b9dd87a9a79151970f&dn=Cultist+Simulator+V2019.1.k.4&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp://tracker.internetwarriors.net:1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969

>>16450141

>we can talk about it with being called a shill?

We sure can, shill.

It does a good job of achieving what it sets out to do but I don't think it has enough choices for certain aspects, like jobs. So it can quickly feel very same-y despite different starts that should have a big impact. It's nice to see a dev not shy away from making something more niche though. Normalfags seem to hate it because they either ruin it for themselves by watching some streamer faggot or checking a wiki, or get frustrated in five minutes and give up.

>>16450186

>>16450158

It's not a card game at all, they're just used to represent things. It's more of a resource management game than anything else.

>>16450141

Once I learnt that I can use spirits to summon spirits, I feel like an SMT protagonist. Also, there seems to be a glitch which canceling a summon when the invoker is a spirit results in losing the first spirit and getting the new one.

I love this game, though it's frustrating that they're rolling out updates so slowly. You have to re-do whole story branches that you've already read just to get to some new content (like the new-is apostle stories).

Also what's up with bird/worm?

>>16450249

>Also what's up with bird/worm?

Meta-ARG nonsense. If you really care, you can skip the part involving the game by checking the game's files.

>>16450245

>canceling a summon when the invoker is a spirit results in losing the first spirit and getting the new one

That's pretty interesting, I should try that. Never cancelled summons, I always put Passion in there because they used to do nothing when they breached. Aparently, it was a bug they "fixed". So now they cause Injuries, munch people (not necessarily someone on the table, might be just a bystander, in which case they generate a corpse from nothing).

I'm not sure what happens if they devour Passion/Reason, I wasn't noticing it, but maybe they do destroy it.

>>16450249

If you're experimenting, just use the dev console to acess the "save/load game" shit. You can use that to do all the bullshit Romance achievements.

Ascending with a Zombie is still time consuming to do though.

>slow updates

I just come back to the game every now and then, hasn't bothered me all that much. What I really wanted was Steam Workshop or some other modding tools, so we could add more summons and cards. Especially Names for other aspects. Or make the zombies not decay but be shit at everything.

It's a shitty game with shitty mechanics and shitty grinding because obviously if they didn't force the player to grind over and over the game would be over in a snap of fingers.

This is from the creators of Sunless Sea, so except the same level of grind and tedium.

>>16450141

>Has this game been out long enough that we can talk about it with being called a shill?

Faggots will call you a shill anyway. Just talk about it.

>>16450301

Makes up for it with the music and ambience. I could listen to the soundtrack for hours. That's the one thing that's really well done.

Same goes for Sunken Sea and Fallen London: somewhat tedious and grindy, but the music makes it worth as a "afternoon-relaxing-game".

>>16450358

I mainly started a thread because while pursuing the Acolyte Entheate victory, I discovered Theresa can sign some of your books. If I'm not mistaken, books she herself wrote.

It's a pointless little detail, but the game is chokefull of this, and I'd like to hear other's from other players.

I played it. Thought it was horrible. Tiniest mistake or rng will cause a game over wasting thirty minutes of work. The fourth time you hit a game over you uninstall because you don't want to do the monotonous work it took you to reach your last game over. 2/5

>>16450449

I'm quoting the OP please read the thread.

>>16450406

You have to fuck up repeatedly to get a game over. RNG by itself will never cause you to get a game over unless you neglected all your spare chances ie you let Despair absorb a ton of Dread and didn't bother getting any Contentment to counter it, or you let Damning Evidence sit there without doing anything about it until an Inspector finally took another look at it and arrested you.

Basically, if you actually managed to lose four times in a row you're probably of African descent and have an IQ in the mid 70s.

>>16450141

>At first, you'll work a shit job, get fired, start painting, get depressed and killl yourself.

I sent a Hint out to take care of Mr. Alden.

The game gets interesting when you enter the Manus. I just keep painting to stop myself getting depressed.

you can tell all the people shitting themselves over because its a card game (when it's mostly just a management game) are fucking casual that can only satite their monkey brain dopamine addiction with gacha shit and tiddies.

>>16450406

>tiniest error

>wasting thirty minutes of work

Two things:

"tiny" errors are entirely avoidable. And even if you do them, they're fixable. Sounds like you haven't explored it enough

Second: thirty minutes of work? Pal, you can start your ascension 15 minutes in. People who never did so don't realize how much they over-prepare for it.

What, you think you need to run 20 expeditions, read 70 books and perform 15 summons for it?

Once you do your first ascension and try for another, you'll realize how quickly you can gather everything you need.

It's entirely possible (and recommended) to spend shitloads of time exploring the game, but if you're just looking to win, the longer you play, the greater the risk of playing.

Going at it fast and hard is the solution.

>>16450489

>Despair

It's pathetically easy to conjure up Contentment. What people do wrong however is keeping their Dream verb overworked with Mansus shitposting, then wonder why there's 3 decreptitude and 3 Dread on the table.

>evidence

Reminder that a Moth Disciple (5 Moth) that EVERYONE has acess to will give you a 70% to delete evidence.

Sucks that he capped it at 70% (used to be 90% for Exalted Moth followers) but 70% means ONE follower can delete 10 pieces of evidence before dying. And you get 3 of the fuckers.

That's an average of 30 evidence deleted per game.

I usually get evidence maybe 5 times in a match (10 in NG+) so it's entirely on them getting jailed for that easy shit.

>>16450141

still playing so not gonna spoil myself by reading the thread, but this game was aight. 7/10, some of the card illustrations are garbage, but the majority are good, and the story's solid.

Being an artist is fucking hilarious.

>Get suspicioun

>Oh no, a Hunter! Whatever shall I do?

>Paint pictures with more occult shit, generating Mystique

>Hunters pull mystique instead of evidence

>Use more mystique to make mystique

>Just endless, endless mystique

>While I'm literally painting with occult inks, doing portraits of otherworldly beings

>Hunter can't get shit but rumors and smoke

>Meanwhile, I'm running dungeons and getting poison to smoke their ass, so I can use the dead body for a summon, which I will paint, because I'm an artist, fuck you

>>16450141

If any company can profit from a game, talking about it automatically makes you a shill.

>create a cult

>don't even know what my own cult is about, just doing whatever

>got destroyed by a curse I got when looting a hospital

>make drawings

>got vanned for being suspicious once

Stopped playing after one of the investigators survived like 5 fucking assassination attempts from skilled mooks and dodged about twice as much by slipping out of the assassination pile into investigation pile and then vanned me. Fuck this game.

>>16450406

>>16451415

I actually yelled at the dev about it. Wrote a review saying that dying unexpectedly and having to replay huge portions of the story made me want to strangle the developer. And he replied! Basically told me that save files are made to be easily editable on purpose, so you can either back up your progress or avoid dying. Not the best game design decision, but hey, the dev was nice

>>16451415

>got destroyed by a curse I got when looting a hospital

Did it ate your last Health card?

I usually upgrade all my stats 3 times before I even begin doing expeditions. For a lot of reason really, but surviving curses is one of them.

>5 fucking assassination attempts from skilled mooks

Here's how that shit works (from what I gathered, might have changed)

A guy with no skill in a particular task will have 10% chance of pulling it off. If they have at least 1 point in it, they'll have 30%.

If they have at least 5 points, it raises quite a lot: 70% now. And a guy at 10 skill will succeed 90% of the time.

So, if you grabbed some mook to kill a detective, you either grabbed the 3 Edge faggot that fails 70% of the time, or something else. What you need is professional muscle, he'll kill hunters 70% of the time. Mind you: if your hunter has Wary or some other trait, he'll still survive, I think 30% of the times he was suposed to die. That cuts your 70% assassination chance down to 46%.

The only exception I've found is evidence destroying: it caps at 70% because the dev couldn't balance out having a Moth cult. Fug.

Also, you should paint with NO occult shit at first. After you get your first Moth 5 Disciple, paint all you want: when the evidence pops up, don't mind it. Only when it becomes Damning evidence should you send your Moth madlad to smoke it.

There's also a lot of ways to deal with Hunters, but if you play the game some more, they'll eventually not even be a problem anymore. It's just something that's there and sometimes ticks a card onto the table, but you don't care about it because you're busy flirting with Theresa.

If you admit that you're having troubles with Hunters on their forums, they'll know you're quite new to the game because it's that easy to deal with them once you get your bearings.

>>16452115

>Did they make combining lore less of a pain in the ass?

Yep. Now each lore has challenges.

For instance, combining Lantern Lore will require an erudition OR an Headquarters with a library OR a reason. BUT, higher level Lantern lore might require the same challenge more times, so either 2 erudition, or erudition + reason, or the headquarters.

They usually have a suboptimal way of doing it, and a better way (your headquarters plays a very important role in this, easier to specialize in the right lore). For instance, Winter lore can be upgraded with Dread but make MORE Dread. This is the suboptimal. You can also have an headquarters with a Pit, or… I think a corpse? Might be.

Higher tier lore needs more checks (highest I've seen is 3) but once you do 1, you can stop the research, use the verb for something else and continue where you left off. It's less tedious and less random, It uses the lvl 5 skills for passion and reason (with a reason to specialized, for isntance "No-no" helps with Moth lore, "Rarefied Mind" helps with lantern, but you can only get one).

I made some math, and it's easy enough to get help from Headquarters and your skills to cover 6 of the diferent lore types, leaving only a few to be upgraded with less than optimal methods.

Along with the expeditions no longer being randomized, I found myself taking notes a lot lately. There's still a fair bit of RNG, but whenever I need a certain item or lore, I now know where to find it with ease.

>>16452346

>And then, 3 things could happen to you:

>1. Quick game over;

Normal for your first 2-3 games. If it happens after that, you need to rethink your entire life.

>2. Slow game over;

normal for your first 10 games. You don't know where everything is located or what you even need to win. If it happens after that, you need to re-think your existence.

>3. Limbo.

Nah, Bliss. It's the moment where you can finally flip the bird at the RNG: no matter what it throws at you, you already have a solution to it on the board. You know before hand that the Expedition will suceed, throw a notirety on the board, and that's why you have an Heart Disciple ready to eat it. Or your Glover and Glover job will do it. Or the hunter is swamped in 30 mistique. Or you don't give a shit, you got all 3 Moth disciples, evidence is not even worth registering in your mind.

The biggest problem you and other new players might be having is that when you begin playing, you don't know how little you need to do. So you do alot. Your Dream verb is always active (killing you with fascination/dread combos from influences), your explore verb is going nuts on expeditions you try to clear with ill-suited disciples (or worse, you keep running Moonlight Streets on it and wrecks you), your social verb is chocked with 3Edge followers trying to kill an Hunter that doesn't even have evidence but worries you, and your work verb is painting/working with physique because you haven't discovered how to do comissions/sell spintria. Or worse, you're still working at Glover and Glover.

That New Game + they added?

I agree with you completely on everything you said. It's swamped in cryptic shit with little to no hints at all, and half the shit you need to win is behind un-avoidable RNG. Not even the kind you can game in your favour, I'm talking 30% of 30% of 25% = 2.5% chances here of pulling some of that shit off. Or you can grind for hours too.

But the base game, with the standard ascensions? Nah man. nowadays I can clear the whole game in 2 hours and not even come close to a single game over. It's short, fast, and you just need to take:

a)take risks, be bold

b)have backups in case those risks don't pay off.

For instance: expedition needs moth? Send 2 Moth disciples. BUT ONLY IF YOU ALREADY HAVE 3 OF THEM. If an Hunter gets evidence while everyone is in an expedition, you're fucked if the hunter picks it up again and lands you in jail. But if you kept one around, you're not so fucked anymore.

Similarly: it's timers, there's a sense of urgence… but a lot of the time, NOT having a verb occupied is the best course of action.

For a start: if you don't need anything from the Mansus, don't dream. Not only you keep the verb ready to pick up contentment, you don't get bombarded with Dread/Fascination from the decaying influences. Sure, you need to Dream to get Secret Histories, but after you get a couple, don't risk more. And especially: DON'T DREAM WHILE FASCINATED/DEPRESSED. Sure fire way of dying. Dream with money, use the contentment to dispell dread. That will give you a fleeting memory that will then dispell the fascination. Boom: one gold solved you two game overs. See how easy that is? And yet, I lost around 7 games to fascination/dread combos when I started. Because I kept going into the Mansus like a dumbass for no good reason.

>>16452390

>>16451415

Yeah, mate. Main problem with this game is it doesn't tell you shit. Oh you figure out stuff on your own like upgrading your stats and walking the dream but when little details pop up that NEED to be explained and then I'm forced to look for the meaning of something online. Would also help if it had at least a basic tutorial that leads to messing with magic.

>>16452428

>it doesn't tell you shit

You know that the dev did that on purpose?

He consciously did not include a Tutorial.

I think it's like Stalker, The Void or Kenshi, the sort of game where you're meant to bumble around, lost and vulnerable like a naked baby being hit by bricks until you figure out enough to punch back.

I dunno man, after figuring the game out and understand WHY it is the way it is, I wouldn't change a damn thing. It makes it a very different experience from other games I've played. Very niche, I'll admit, but fairly unique.

Especially when it comes to Magic and summons. I mean, the first time someone gets a Rite, the natural reaction is to try to fill all the slots and see what happens. But nothing happens because you don't have valid combinations for it. Yet, you get small hints.

You need a significant power of Forge, a bit of Edge, you can add knock to summon something, that sort of thing. It gives you some objectives: try to obtain shit to put in the Rite. More powerfull shit, to be more specific. And then you do, you have no idea what will happen, but something comes out and either devours someone, or you get a very powerfull ally… that you don't yet know how to use to it's full potential, but you send him everywhere and see what happens.

It makes it so there's a part of the game you can master and win over the RNG. There will always be some randomness, but now you know that King Crucible is an easy summon for Forge cults and he can clear like 70% of the expeditions solo. Throw in an Hint or a Caligine, and you can do 90% of the expeditions too.

It's not about beating the game: it's about exploring it and feeling a sense of inner-progression that's important. No matter how good/bad the board right now is, gaining more knowledge about the game IS the defacto purpose of it.

IF you still need some help, here's something cool that I found on their forums:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1628506443

I got that stuff printed and always right besides me too. Helps a ton and looks very aesthetic.

I found it really dull, I tried hard to get into it because one of the heads behind Sunless Sea/Skies/Fallen London is behind it but it's just spinning plates while waiting on a bunch of timers. Sunless is also a frustrating mess but it at least has a lot of interesting shit to look at and read while you're being ground down trying to balance resources, what little flavor there was in card descriptions in Cultist Simulator wasn't enough to hold me. I don't know if it gets more interesting because I didn't make it that far.

Tried it, shit game. Wouldn't buy at gunpoint.

Gave it a long shot. Just kept getting smoked in the early-mid game, despite my best efforts to handle fascination/notoriety/etc. I could tell there was significant good to come, but I got so tired of repeating the early steps 20+ times and getting fucked over by poor chance despite my best efforts to prevent it.

>>16453000

Should have taken it really slow.

Some tips for a solid start:

>don't work at glover, work with physique

It makes you enough money (as long as you don't spend it on anything else) and gets you vitality. You can use that vitality to upgrade your health. Once you have the Skill, work with it instead. Every level reduces work time by 5 seconds, and at lvl 2 you won't get injured anymore. Plus, it produces Vitality every time. Study Health + Work with physique will keep you going for a good while, leave the final upgrade for much later into the game.

>Painting

Don't paint at the start. Even if you avoid producing notoriety, mistique can still call an Hunter (albeit, rarely). Work with health and then reason to start working at Glover & Glover. It's a shit job, but you won't be using your work verb for anything else for a while.

>use health on Explore

You're looking for Oriflame's Auction House, Ms. Morlands bookshop and the Ecdysis club. After you get all 3, you're good. Don't explore Strange Moonlight Streets. There's nothing there you need and it might Fascinate you.

After you get 10 money, start exploring Ms. Morland and buying books. Never buy if you have less than 10 money, focus on that instead. You can read all the books, but there's one that might give you fascination and one that might give you dread. After reading them, don't read anything else until you've dealt with that.

>Dream

Don't. There's nothing for you in the Mansus yet, you risk Fascinating yourself, and you'll need the Dream Verb free to get rid of Fascination and Dread. You'll dream a lot more by the end of the game, but at the start it's a lot more handy to keep this one free for when you need it.

>social

Here''s where shit gets tricky. After reading the first book from Ms. Morland, you can use social with that first lore bit to start hunting for associates. You should keep reading books (buying when you've got money) and keep looking for people without recruiting them.

>should I use A Strange Rumour to find more people?

No. That card is good for people who know the game, it's there to speed a second or third playthrought. If you use it, you'll get smoked.

Now, if you've followed this, you've not generated a single point of Notoriety/Mistique.

You've kept the Dream verb empty, allowing to dream with money to get Contentment. And you've let Restless decay into dread to kill any fascination (but it's very unlikely you even got any in the first place).

You've got some 10-12 pieces of lore and about the same number of aquaintances.

Making the cult will generate your first piece of Notoriety. If you want to avoid problems, check the next Season on the timer (something you'll learn to do a lot). If the next one is Season of Suspicion, start your cult right when that Season arrives. Reason: Seasoon don't duplicate, so when your cult spawns and you get that 1 Notoriety, you'll have the most time to hopefully see it disappear before the next Season of suspicion.

>but Season of Suspicion arrived early again!

No problem, here's a neat trick: some verbs, like the Hunters Investigate have that magnet that pulls cards. You can click and hold on a card, and as long as you're holding it, it will not be pulled. Just hold your notoriety with your mouse, let the Investigate verb elapse and then release. Voila: you got your first cult and no Hunter.

Speaking of seasons, always keep checking the next one, especially after one begins. It will give you roughly 60 seconds to prepare for it.

For instance, Season of Despair is coming, and you got Dread with 90 seconds to go on the table.

You can dream with money and generate Contentment, then dream Dread with Contentment and get rid of it before the season even starts!

Speaking of which, the deadliest thing in this game is getting the Fascination verb along with the Despair one. You need Dread to clear the Fascinatioin, but Dread will get auto-pulled into the Despair verb killing you.

What you do is avoid anything that might fascinate you at all (very little in this game can give you Fascination without your explicit input) and work on getting contentment. Painting with passion+dreaming with money.

Once the Despair verb disappears, it will leave a Fleeting memory behind. And if you had only one Fascination, that Fleeting Memory will remove it pronto. If you did avoid anything that gives you fascination, that's all you need.

But if you took risks, and still did activities to give you further fascination… you've got noone to blame but yourself. Always deal with it before doing anything else.

In mid-to-late game, Dread and Fascination aren't a problem because you can burn them straight up using rites.

>>16453406

>DEEP SKY DERELICTS

Thanks for reminding me that that thing is out.

I like 1C games, and had that on my wishlist, but forgot to check it.

>>16453394

>Don't paint at the start

That's bad advice. Using Passion on Work let's you paint to burn Restlessness easy and cheap. Also has a chance to generate Glimmering, money, Contentment or at worst Mystique. Using this makes Dread a lot more manageable. If Dread is still an issue, you can pay money at the club to mostly safely almost always generate Contentment.

Fascination isn't that big of a deal because Dread is generated cheaply by speaking to a hunter for example or even letting Restlessness lapse. Fleeting Reminiscences can also kill Fascination via dreaming and are all over the place and they last a long time on the board.

But yes play slowly and rush disciples as fast as possible. Moth disciples can delete Evidence and Heart ones can remove Notoriety. At disciple rank they have a 70% chance to do this.

>>16453449

>Using Passion on Work let's you paint to burn Restlessness

You can also use it to promote followers, or even for some rites. It quickly goes from "ah shit, not this again" to "finally, another one" very fast because it's so versatile.

>money at the club

I'm not sure how successful that is compared with Dreaming with funds. Sure, they've finally added the "opium fucks up your health" thing, but the Club can do a lot worse, like giving you notoriety, which at the start is deadly.

>>16453547

That bad? Looked like a comic-stylized Darkest Dungeon.

For the record, I have a high tolerance for bullshit mechanics and DD didn't bother me too much.

It does look more grindy though, so I guess I'll YARR HARR it beforehand.

>>16453608

>Looked like a comic-stylized Darkest Dungeon

It is except when it isn't it's just repetition and grind minus any risk or hook a game with turn based combat should have to make it stand apart

And it's a sad commentary in itself when one can say that DD did it better and is more bug-free and finished than this game.

How the fuck do I manage Dread? I've lost almost every run because Dread piles up like a motherfucker while I'm still trying to get my stats up.

>>16453918

If you have money, dream with it for drugs. It'll almost always work. You can also swing by the club. If you don't generate Notoreity, ever, the season that usually brings hunters instead brings contentment, because there are no way for hunters to catch your trail until you do.

Painting also generates contentment, and isn't a bad career, as noted earlier in the thread. Be wary you don't generate too much contentment, though, as dread counters going mad in the other direction (mania, in other words) and might be needed later. I generally keep dread at 1.

>>16453947

Unless, of course, you're going to that other place.

>>16450406

This. After 5 or so hour long attempts grinding through the beginning only to get fucked by dread or fascination or something, I just don't care to keep trying. I can tell there's cool shit in this game but I'm tired of the tedium trying to reach it.

>>16453959

>>16450406

Did they remove the console ? When it somes to games like this, if there's a fix for the dread/contentment/fascination loop being an issue for me I carefully fix it myself.

>cult game I haven't played that is a card game the thread.

<fucking know you can't fuck your stable of brainwashed bitches

not interested

>>16453968

>Did they remove the console ?

Nope, still there. I never had to use it much besides satisfying some curiosity.

>>16454213

You can romance every single follower.

There's a special ending for each of them.

There's even a secret ending for ascending to the Glory with your lover, but that one is a secret you'll have to discover.

Doesn't really change much, but i'ts a ice touch.

I feel stuck at the moment. I can go into the dream world, I have about a dozen followers, I have over 60 gold, I have a pile of artifacts (trinkets atm since I can't do anything with them), but I still don't know what I'm doing with the lores/rites/influences. I feel more like a con man lying to my followers that I totally know what I'm doing when in reality I'm just sending them in waves at the exploration sites and hoping I find more books to maybe…do something.

>>16455750

>I feel more like a con man lying to my followers

Welcome to the mid-game!

On future runs, you'll get there twice as fast.

If you're feeling safe, secure and have a lot of lore/items and followers, what you want to do is start focusing on your Desire card.

I'm not gonna spell it out how that one works, just fiddle with it on diferent verbs.

You'll eventually get a very powerfull card out of it.

So how do you ascend? Very simple.

You see the Rites you use to summon stuff?

You need to do one (any of them will do) using that very special and powerfull card you'll get out of your desire. And… get 36 influence of your Desires field.

>Power = 36 Forge

>Enlightenment = 36 Lantern

>Sensation = 36 Grail

Since all rites have 3 slots, you only need 12 in each. Or you can get a 15 influence/Lore and something else could be a 9.

For instance: Rite that takes Tool, Influence and Follower.

You get a third-tier tool (12 influence), an Exalted follower (10 influence) and a top-tier Influence (15) totalling 37.

You should keep hording stuff until you have enough, then begin fiddling with your desire card until it's ready. Hint: the Desire slot in Rites will tell you how to judge if it's ready.

These 3 are the standard victory types.

The Dancer DLC adds another 2 for Moth and Heart (and a special hidden one), while the NG+ ascensions are a completely new beast that you should only tackle after knowing the gam back and forth.

>>16455992

Some tips that I'll spoiler to not ruin it for people who want to find this thing by themselves:

You can upgrade your desire card up to lvl 3 by dreaming with it. Before level 2 you can even swap it for another.

After reach 3, you're commited to it and your ascension begins. This is dangerous to do too early:

When the Ambition seasons comes around, it will either make a rival try to fuck with you, or pick your desire card and attempt to upgrade it.

Enlightment and Sensation desires require a prisioner to be present at that time, he'll be killed and your card will advance. Power only needs funds.

If you can't pay the cost, your desire will downgrade, and you'll lose a stat cards: Power damages Health, Sensation Passion and Enlightment Reason.

If you upgrade it 4 times, it will reach level 7. Do the 36-influence ritual and you've won.

If you can't do it, there's a special Rite, called Rite of the Intercalte that will take 7 ingredients, and it's rather easy to reach 36 Influence then, but the ritual itself only spawns from 2 very rare books.

You can talk to followers about certain locations and start a relationship. Just give them passion/reason when they require it (season of thrysts) and you'll be rewarded.

Start more than one relation and… well, it's chaos.

Gifting tools to followers can help you set up some easy summons or combo expedition strengths with other summons.

Remember: you only need 10 influence in expeditions to ensure a 90% chance to win, it caps at that.

If you got any other doubts, I don't mind answearing, but you might want to take the time to search for the answers yourself.

>>16456017

I already dreamed with it, and I know I need to do something more potent now. The Work.

I just can't figure out anything about the Influences, from the normal restless to the crazy cracked-looking ones (and lower tiers). Also, for secret histories, can you do anything useful with the fragments of memories that spawn? Those I end up just using as painting inspiration.

>Start more than one relation and… well, it's chaos.

One waifu for laifu.

>>16456017

>>16456093

>>16456059

Well, I'll keep at it.

>>16456059

Influences are meant as temporary power sources that decay fast. you got standard influences for each lore type (no secret histories thought) and those decay every 60 seconds into a lower tier:

15 -> 10 -> 6 -> 2 -> disappear

Of special note: Winter influences that start at 6 or above, will decay into dread, and Lantern will decay into Fascination. Quite dangerous, Dreaming can easily fill you with both because of this.

What you have in addition to this are minor influences, some of them last more than these 60 seconds. Contentment, Restlessness, Fleeting Memory, Dread, Fascination.

These all have 2 of some aspect (restlessness has 2 of 4 diferent aspects!) and you can use them in Rites and other things. Of importance: dreaming Contentment + Dread will produce a Fleeting memory that you can then dream with fascination to produce anothe fleeting memory and so on. Easy way to clean your board of this crap. Restlessness improves your painting with passion to 2 funds reward (but you're better off painting with your skill rather than passion) and fleeting memory has one very special use:

Note that it's the only influence with Secret stories. It's normally used to summon Theresa, a very important and friendly summon. She can be summoned with other means, but it's a lot harder.

For the most part? You ignore influences. They're unreliable, and you should rely on Followers + Lore instead. Tools / Ingredients when you get them.

That doesn't mean they're useless. For instance:

>start lantern cult

>get lantern beliver (2 aspect) with Lore 4

>to upgrade him you need 7

>get fascination (2 lantern aspect)

>put cult card in "Talk" verb, add your follower, the lore and the Fascination. Total = 8

>you now have a disciple AND got rid of the fascination

This is one trick that can speed up your early game a lot. At first, you'll take hours to get your first disciple (an important milestone, since these guys have a sucess rate of 70%) but with this? 10 minutes in, and you can already stop worrying about evidence, get all the corpses you want, make money stealing crap.

Secret stories are meant to be used on the explore verb to unlock expeditions. There's 6 tiers of lore and corresponding 6 tiers of expeditions. Mostly, you'll have 5 unique-non repeatable expeditions per tier, and one repeatable/grindable expedition (that is usually not worht it since it has extra obstacles for little reward).

You can upgrade Secret histories (join two fragments in the study verb) to acess higher tier expeditions. In fact, that's the only reliable way to acess the last tier.

Dreamning in general is used for two things:

>Nabbing influences

Very unreliable what kind of influence you get, but the upper doors will give you 6-8 influnce. Just summon whatever that influence allows you to summon and send them on expeditions (remember, if an expedition fails a challenge, the leader gets hurt, but summons are replaceable, followers aren't. always send sumons as leaders if you can)

>nabbing secret histories

Every door can get secret stories from it's own tier on it's "main node", and one tier higher on a secondary node (that you don't see, so it's a gamble).

The peacock door takes effort to break into, and it's unrelaible to get secret histories, but it holds some usefull secrets.

Spider door is only doable if you can handle corpses and evidence with ease.

Otherwise, farm the Stag door, all you need is reason to enter, and you can nab some Secret Histories 6 or 8 from there, good expeditions at that level.

>>16456131

That is everything I needed to know. I think I'll try beating it from here (though taking my time). Thanks!

>>16456093

Keep Cat Caro happy, she'll keep you happy too.

You're starting the middle game. You've got some tools to do minor rites and summon easy summons (refer to >>16452521 for a summon table).

for instance, if you get another restlessness, you can use that Sunset Rite with the Lantern 6 lore you have plus a knock believer (i don't think you have one yet) and the restllessness to summon a Hint.

For now, keep manging that notoriety (grab that card with your cursor, don't let of it and let the Evidence time out).

that decreptitude could have ruined early-game, but now it's not a factor (you can regenerate it later too).

Only threat you have on the table is the Hunter with that evidence and the notoriety, but even then, he'll only get to Damning evidence, not enough to condemn you.

Since you don't have a moth disciple, you can't dispose of evidence as easily.

BUT: you can use the Cult cards + "An Unmercifull Mantra (4) with the Noonstone (4) to reach 8 Lantern, meaning you can upgrade any follower to Disciple now. Start doing that, you'll need more for Exalting your Lantern followers (21 and only latern followers can do it because that's the cult you picked) but having a full cast of disciples will help you.

DON'T:

>do expeditions

>paint with lore/ingredients

>try to murder anyone

>try to steal anyone

>go to ecdysis

These can all generate Notority, and you're one Notoriety away from being jailed.

Especially don't fuck with the Hunter. You have no solutions for that right now, an atempt might work, but failure means game over.

Take it slow, work on those books, and start promoting everyone to Disciples while you lay down and wait for Notoriety to go away.

Priority: promote Ysbet or Sylvia to Disciples as soon as possible.

After that, you can use them to dispose of the Damning evidence that I'm guessing is about to appear. IF one fails, send the other, only heal them afterwards. Do this if something drops more notoriety or you want to speed things along. In your place, I'd instead lay low: there's a lot you can do for now that doesn't attrac attention.

>>16456175

Yeah, I paused it right after I obtained a cache of books from an expedition and cleaned up my board so it was more easily readable. I haven't had too much problem with my notoriety since I've just been cramming it into my painting where he can't get at it until he goes away. I'll start upgrading and beginning the midgame.

>>16451196

is there a feeling in this world better than painting using your crime to prevent hunters from gathering evidence on you 16 times in a row

>>16456275

It feels like artists and the famous can get away with anything these days, eh? :^)

I feel like this game would be a lot more fun if it wasn't a spreadsheet simulator with a card-game skin on it. No matter how hard I try, I couldn't get away from the feeling that all I was doing was manipulating numbers to manipulate other numbers. Doesn't feel like a game at all; feels like work.

>>16450141

It's practically a fucking facebook clicker. All it is is a bunch of clicking on stupid timers. It's fucking annoying and you often want speedhacks when dealing with that shit.

I don't understand how people consider this shit a game.

>>16456888

>clicking on stupid timers

nigga have you not beaten your rival to death with your bare fucking hands

>>16456581

>i cried because i'm a poorfag beta

>then i got mad and posted on twitter and literally did nothing else about it

fuckin /pol/tards

>>16457039

I played most of it. It was a three-man turn based RPG, right?

>>16453871

>DD did it better

No it didn't.

It absolutely didn't.

DSD has a shitty ending granted but it is vastly more fun to explore than fucking DD.

In DSD you can actually customize combat, make combos that ACTUALLY FUCKING WORK and it doesn't throw bullshit mechanics at you just to counter balance.

The only issues DSD has is that if you do all the missions you tend to end up overpowered at some point, as such the game may end up slightly boring against some enemies because you are basically two to three levels ahead, plus the exploring becomes tedious after a while and especially in the finals paths of the game, where you got your good gear on and you only need cash for healing.

Still, DD does that way fucking worse.

>>16450141

>Has this game been out long enough that we can talk about it with being called a shill?

Well you didn't post a magnet link in the OP so you're a complete fucking nigger, and a shill.

>>16456888

If you put it like that then all grand strat games are shit too. It's all just stupid menus and no graphic action at all waah.

>>16457603

I was lucky enough to drop some cards in there and notice that the "Start" buttone went white to realize I didn't need the Ambition card.

But at first, I did follow those recipes that come up in the lore pieces, which took a lot longer than I actually needed.

>>16457674

>>I-I'm not a shill, but I won't post any downloads

Did you even read the thread?

>>16457695

>implying "muh shill" niggers ever read past the OP

Regardless of whether the new version has a magnet or not, it'll still cause the bunch of (1)s screeching shill and ruining the thread.

Just throw the newest magnet on your OP if you're worried about niggers derailing your thread.

>>16457695

>>16457706

Next time I start a thread, I'm posting a Magnet link for midget-donkey porn. I want see if the guys creaming "Muh shill" actually use the link at all or just want to shitpost.

>>16457812

>not saying the game is bloated in size and posting 10GB of dolphin porn

the game is trash for the simple fact that it's lacking visuals. the most important part of a card game is the card art and it's non existent in this game.

>>16458439

Yeah, that's really stupid. You have a bunch of small linear goals that is fun the first time you see them, but doesn't last for as long as the game is supposed to and next time you see them they're still the same. End game is complete shit for content.

>>16458363

>you have 3 fresh fascinations on your deck

>simultaneous depression

>simultaneous hunter

>awry summon

On one hand, I was gonna say I've been in a similar situation, but since I know the game back and forth now, I was able to get out of it with "relative" ease.

On the other hand, "relative" ease is exactly that: relative. I knew what to do and what order to do it, so there was only a very tiny chance I'd actually lose, but knowing those things didn't spare me from 30 minutes of micro managing where I couldn't advance ANY exception, dream for more Secret histories or train futher cultists.

Those are the moments of the game that really hurt it's enjoyement, because yeah, the Music, the Lore and the Universe itself is fascinating. Even some of the gameplay mechanics are really smart, but the tedious one's are tedious for far too long.

>traipse through the game files in search of lore or savescum like a motherfucker

I still have a couple runs I want to finish before doing that and experimenting like crazy, but if you want to read the game files for lore, use this: https://www.frangiclave.net/

Should have everything (even cards you can't get in the game) and is updated constantly.

>>16458439

>pulling ass through expedition after expedition trying to find the right location

If you give a Secret History Lore of the right level to Sulochana, she'll reply to you with correct expedition you need to do.

The game has the feel that a cult game should have… But it's not cult tycoon… And that's what I really wanted.

>>16459011

maybe don't run loonix if you actually want to play games.

>>16461713

I'd like to see a game like this, but as a sort of RTS.

Not the standard "build base, make troops, watch blob smash agains blob".

Have a map that's the whole city, have cult members living in diferent buildings, gather for cult business in a building, gather resources/kidnap people.

You could even take it father and have that procedural Mansus map as a parallel dimension that another anon sugested.

>>16457162

Yes it did.

It absolutely did.

For all the shit that anyone can throw at DD,and there is plenty,one thing you can't call it: unoriginal.It takes the known and tried turn-based combat formula and gives it it's own version that stands out from the rest,but that is something you just can't say the same for DSD.

DSD is formulaic from beggining to end and doesn't stand out in any way from the rest of the pile of it's kind the gameplay is run-of-the-mill stuff you can find in any rpgmaker game where they replace the classic combat menu options with cards you chose when you equip your character;there is no risk in not preparing correctly for a mission and then returning to the station halfway to refill your oxygen or to heal a team member because the back&forth only costs you some extra playtime and nothing else and it's certainly a better alternative than losing because you went in a fight with half heatlh and the enemy got a good crit. or two,also it's bugged out of the ass and it's story may as well not even be there for all the good it does to the game.

>but muh spehs theme

Whoop dee-doo it's set in space,you traded in your broadsword for a plasma-blade and your fireball for an auto-pistol,great job.You're playing any JRPG you've ever played in your lifetime but it's in space now.

>>16456248

Finally beat the game with the Enlightenment desire. A ton of expeditions got me close enough that subverting some lore and research got me the rest of the way and a bunch of prisoners to be consumed by talking them to death

>>16463112

I just got the first standard victory (Enlightenment). The Hunter mechanic seems to be broken as the best course of action is always ignore them. Killing them just gets them replaced. Driving them insane just turns them into rivals. I haven't fully mastered a lot of the mechanics but something tells me that I don't have to.

I feel like this style of game can help fill some gaps in RPGs.

>Play good aligned character and do evil things?

>You have to find ways to mitigate guilt.

>You got lucky one time and knock out someone a bar with one punch?

>Bring it up whenever someone picks a fight with you until people forget about it.

>>16464209

Killing hunters is a last resort ditch effort that you when the evidence is not manageable. Basically, if you don't have Moth available for wathever reason.

Or you have an edge cult, your exalts are called assassins for a reason = 100% sucess chance to kill faggy hunters.

except for that one trait that makes them resitant to physicak attacks, in whcih case, you send a Maid

And yeah, this game is riddled with things I'd like to see in other RPG's.

I remember I got hooked on the game

when I first pirated it and played it a lot over the course of 2 days until I beat Enlightenment. Haven't touched it since

>>16464229

>Killing hunters is a last resort ditch effort that you when the evidence is not manageable. Basically, if you don't have Moth available for wathever reason.

Once I successfully summoned a Raw Prophet, I could easily use it to summon another Raw Prophet when it is about to decay. Even if the summoning would fail (as in cancelling the summon with Reason), I would get the new spirit at the cost of the old spirit.

>>16464229

>And yeah, this game is riddled with things I'd like to see in other RPG's.

CRPGs right now are too streamlined. A simple example would be FO1&2 vs FO:NV. In FO2, robot companions need to be repaired. In FO:NV, stimpaks just work on ED-E. In FO:NV, stimpaks can be used on yourself and your companions. In FO1&2, they can be used on random NPCs because it just an item in your inventory.

>>16450141

I wanted get the new game+ but it turns out that I needed to update the game.

bump to see if anyone has a torrent to the most recent update

>caring about shitposter's opinions

>also a shill

Get out.