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begorrah paddy

i'm the protagonist o' one o' those japanese vid-e-oh games

Can you play the qt on the pirated version yet?

To my understanding you had to grind online-only points to play her.

>>16422044

I started playing Nioh like two weeks ago. The story is basically get your guardian spirit back from the skinhead looking guy while getting tangled up in those Sengoku area wars with all the famous people. I'm amazed how much content there is. I skipped NG+, did the DLCs instead which are apparently way harder and went straight to NG++ and every mission has crazy red enemies with buffs and you get encounters of multiple enemies thrown at you constantly. And I never even touched the Abyss (999 floors of different boss/enemy gauntlets with increasing difficulty) or the twilight missions.

Once you unlock the Hidden Teahouse you can spend Glory (earned by killing revenants if you pirated it) to unlock the characters you met in the story so you can play as them. I checked it briefly and most were like 10k glory and the only cute girl that was available at that time was 70k so its a grind to unlock them I think.

You can respecc for 10k gold, which is basically nothing. So feel free to try all the different weapons and see what works the best for you.

is tonfa weapon a dlc? I don't have it on my playstation copy

>>16422126

Yeah, DLC adds tonfas and odachis

>>16422112

Any stats worth going for early game?

Any stats to ignore completely?

I'm kind familiar with the sengoku era (basically know some names and the general gist of politics from anime/games) so I'm happy it's not just make-believe Japan.

>>16422113

Thanks. Are any weapons considered easy mode or trash? What about armours? I noticed the heavy armour in the Tower of London really fucked with stamina recovery so I think I'll go light unless there's some reason not to?

>>16422126

I'm playing on PC. Got it for about $10 or so a while back. Apparently it's the "complete edition". A quick search shows that the Tonfa and Odachi were DLC on PS4 but everything was included in the PC release.

>>16422133

Weight management works pretty much like Dark Souls, but in this game it's called agility which is graded from A to D. I-frames don't change that much but at C agility you use a lot of extra stamina to dodge, run or attack, so try to stay at A or B if possible.

>>16422133

Decide on the general character you want. All stats seem just as viable as each other. I'm rock a sword/spear build at the moment and its really fun.

As for weapons, tonfa are regarded as the worst though I haven't used them. Fighting tonfa revenants (sort of PVP mechanic, you fight AI versions of players that died) puts me on the defensive. You're good with everything else, I think spears and swords are seen as the easy mode. My first run was primarily axe, odachi and sword, but most of the game was just axe for me.

Armour generally you want to be at B agility. C kills your Ki regen and screws your dodges, many would argue not to bother with A agility as well as you are too weak. I also rocked with C agility for most of my first playthrough. I somehow beat it but already on my second run I am having a much easier time. Kind of want to stop and start again for a full ninja focused William, but that can wait.

The only issue I have is that the first time through, I didn't touch onmyo and ninjitsu. Now I'm investing in them so I feel my stats may be spread too thin.

>>16422133

The only useless stat is the one between onmyo and ninjutsu you don't choose to pursue. Otherwise the system is build in such a way that any point will benefit you..

>>16422212

Yes, you will have a fun time.

More enemy variety than Sekiro

>>16422212

>giving 30% to the steamkikes

Pirate instead.

>>16422044

You can get a cute gril skin later, yes. All weapons are viable if you build for it but hammer/axe spin2win is objectively the most overpowered build. If you're just playing to enjoy the game, do the game and NG+ and then put it down. There'll be minimal loot-grinding in that case and you'll still get like 200 hours out of it. If you want to actually get hardcore and do NG+++ or something, yes, you'll need to grind pretty hard in specific levels and areas for specific build-required items.

I don't remember jack shit about actually playing the game though, so no tips here. Maybe 'Never upgrade your armor level because it costs exponentially greater each time you do it'.

>>16422212

Worth it. Modern pricing and deals make it so, in my mind, games should always give at least 1-1.5 hours of entertainment per 1$ spent. That seems a fair ratio to me. Nioh will get you easily 50-80 hours even if you do one and a bit playthroughs to NG+. I personally dumped closer to 200 into it just messing with multiplayer and grinding for loot, so 20$ is a steal.

>>16422222

All I wanted was a shitty Duke Nukem movie. Why you did this?!

Checked

>>16422106

Just use cheatengine nigger.

>>16422222

Just here to admire some quints

>>16422224

>giving anything to the Bamco turbokikes

You shouldn't support them with or without the Steamkikes having their fingers in the pie.

>>16422161

Tonfas just have very low dps, aren't fantastic at breaking poise, some people love them. They're not very good at anything, but have a unique playstyle that kills human bosses pretty quickly.

You can easily beat the game using them though, so it's more of a question of if you like the playstyle they provide or not.

Which Onmyo should I be going for? A lot of them seem gated early on by "Complete mission ????" so I should I not bother until I've unlocked the smith? That's where I dropped the game the first time, because I couldn't complete the mission after that without crashing.

>>16422154

How do I determine if I'm at B agility?

There is a lot of info on the equipment screen.

>>16422161

I've been putting points into strength and body so far. I think I'll drop the tonfa as they're not really doing it for me, and the idea of an axe wielding whirlwind of death sounds fun.

>>16422222

>I went Raikiri/Magic with Warrior of the West the first time.

I don't know what that is yet but I'll keep it in mind.

>>16422405

Yeah I'm not feeling them now that I've using them a bit. Got to get too close and then they deal chip damage mostly. I do like the spear though, with mad pokes and some nice spinning moves, especially with living weapon activated holy shit.

>>16422398

Eh it’s not that hard to mix up kecmo and bamco

>>16422457

You can't do onmyo for a little while. Its tied to a mission. Agility is in your equipment screen, changing armour will raise or decrease its percentage. 70% is C, below that is B and even further below is A.

>>16422398

I apologize, I confused my asiakikes. I obviously meant Koei Tecmo.

The game is very good.

The diablo loot system has me pulling my hair out as I cannot make a character unless perfectly min/max, and which leads to a shitload of grind.

The DLC helps ease that though.

>>16422457

>I don't know what that is yet but I'll keep it in mind.

Raikiri is a sword that scales with your spirit and does electric damage. Spirit is the stats that enhances magic. A bit like magic/enchanted weapons in Dark Souls.

Warrior of the West is a set that boosts electric elemental damage damage and is meant to be paired with Raikiri. Electricity resists are relatively rare, and your magic can destroy most of those.

I bit the bullet and actually bought the game after finishing it on a pirated copy. The multiplayer aspects are deader than I expected thought I can finally experience the sea of Warrior of West revenants.

>>16422133

>Any stats worth going for early game?

Always invest in Body and get Ninjutsu and Magic to 20.

>>16422772

You can also get attack on all your pieces if they soul match, gloves are the only things that give attack, and you can pass on the trait to other armor.

>>16422883

>Spear and Odachi is easily the best combination

Not really

Odachi is just a better Spear whose only disadvantage is that its not tied to Body.

>>16422902

Except spear skills are drastically more useful than most of the Odachi's. Spearfall, Twirl, Spear bash, and Chidori are insanely good against every mook and yokai. Odachi is great for cleaving into groups, but spear excels in singling out others and it's why I prefer having both

>>16422935

>Except spear skills are drastically more useful than most of the Odachi's

>Odachi is great for cleaving into groups, but spear excels in singling out others

Man you've been using both of those weapons wrong.

Thinking of getting the PC version after playing the PS4 one on a base PS4. Is this from the period where Koei's PC ports were really fucky?

>>16423026

It's actually a great port, except that its file size is like 5 times what it needs to be.

>>16423048

Just use talisman of fist + carnage talisman and wreck the shit out of everything

>>16423038

The reason no one really mentions the Onmyo or Ninjutsu builds is because, although they are interesting to mess around with, they're not particularly good. You have to invest so much into them for them to end up inferior to a Living Weapon build or an Iai katana build.

>>16423075

Up to the point in the game I played it was really effective though. I just entered a boss room, spammed my d-pad a bit and left with my loot. Think I was in NG++, maybe NG+++ I don't recall.

>>16423072

Twirl is ass. Its easily the worst counter in the game. You would have better results unequipping the weapon and using the unarmed counter.

Spears are also very bad for solo targets, enemies can close in very easily, all your moves require set ups, they have bad ki damage and break potential, the list goes on. Theres a reason why most of its moves are sweeping in nature.

Compare that to the odachi, it doesn't have as many group managing ability as the Spear but it has amazing ki damaging moves that can be spammed very easily. You have Tiger's Blade which is just a better Leaping monkey, waking winds and sunset breeze allow you chain attacks as long as your Ki remains and all the basic moves are amazing on their own.

TL;DR: You've been using Spear wrong if you've been using it as a single target weapon.

>>16423120

>There's a multitude of ways to use each weapon; everybody can find their stride with whichever they choose

There are obvious ways to use a weapon wrong which will only lead to you getting frustrated.

I've seen retards use Tonfas as a hit and run weapon while not blocking at all and I've seen people turtling with a Sword or Axe.

>>16423130

Its 72 gigs.

What's the best weapon for breaking guard/crushing stamina? I've got my spear for poking and playing keep away and twirling through mooks, but I want something a bit heavier for breaking armoured enemies that block.

>>16423026

>Is this from the period where Koei's PC ports were really fucky?

It's great when it works, I got random crashes until I upgraded but haven't experienced anything like that since.

>>16423130

File size is "only" 74GB so you've still got 26GB left over. :^)

I have no idea why it's that big, nothing I've seen or heard explains it.

>>16423159

I seem to remember the axes high stance heavy obliterates health and ki alike.

>>16423168

Oh wow that's almost as bad as the over 120gb of Ark

>>16423159

>What's the best weapon for breaking guard/crushing stamina

Tonfa>Odachi>Axe

Axe has better stats for breaking but it doesn't have many abilities to use those stats so you'll be sticking to strong attacks most of the time. The only move that it has to keep the pressure on is Tri Spark which is pretty good but its the only thing it has.

Tonfa is absurdly good at depleting Ki. You can practically stun lock human enemies if you get them in a rhythm especially later in the game when you can reforge a Prevent Parry on your weapon and spam Shove until the enemy dies.

Odachi has Charging Bull and that tackle move. Charging bull is a bit bad as it automatically follows up with its own move instead of allowing you to set up a Grapple or Finishing Blow but the tackle can deplete Ki on Yokais very quickly allowing you to set up a living weapon stun lock.

>there are actually cucks who can't enjoy the game unless they swap William with a female skin.

You fags need to die.

>>16423190

>tonfa is good if you do precisely this setup

and that's why tonfa is bad.

>>16423130

>>16423164

It's much smaller when you get it from fitgirl, don't give KT your shekels

>>16423164

Apparently It's possible to compress the game and run it through there only if your on Windows 10

I'll copy and paste the guide here for you all just in case

>1. Press "Wndows" + "R" on your keyboard to bring up "Run" function.

>2. Enter "cmd" to bring up "Command" function.

>3. Enter the following code:

cd /d E:\Steam\steamapps\common\Nioh

*note: this is where my Nioh folder is, change according to your own Nioh folder location

>4. Enter the following code:

compact /c /s

*note: if your system is Win10, enter [compact /c /s /exe:lzx] instead

>5. Wait for the compact to complete, it could take up to an hour or two. Your PC might become slow/unresponsive for the duration, for obvious reason.

>6. Voila! Your Nioh folder size is now 15.5gb! Enjoy less loading time and less stutter!

>>16423226

>>tonfa is good if you do precisely this setup

Where did I say that retard?

>>16423227

If you buy it you only need to download 30GB whereas with the fitgirl repack you need to download 20GB, then ~2GB of patches and then wait 20 to 30 minutes to install it.

What set should I be looking at for sword+spear when I get to NG+?

>>16423580

Tatenashi is a great set for general survivability purposes. First pic in >>16423038

>>16423605

That's the sword master who shows up at the dojo late in the game right?

>>16423642

It drops from the "Return of the Gourd" side mission boss where you get to face Oda Nobunaga again.

>>16423936

Random from pool.

>>16423936

Fully random

You should be playing Sekiro instead of this cheap imitation.

>>16424164

These fandom rivalries are so forced you fucking KIKES. Do better.

>>16424033

You do realize that William was Ieyasu's advisor right?

>>16423936

If you really need something specific then you should use the magic charcoal or inherit it from a different piece.

>>16423216

I enjoyed the game plenty fine for all the levels before I got to that point, Tome is just cute.

Japanese dark souls ripoff

>>16425066

Is there a name for this? Making a bitch rest on a wall and letting birds poop all over her booty?

Or is it just a popular bukkake pose?

>>16425079

I honestly cannot think of any element in Sekiro that would improve Nioh.

>>16425115

The deflection and posture system is fun, more so for when you and a boss are trading hits and blocking each one. Sekiro also has better movement I'd say and the jump would add a lot to the combat. Though Nioh already uses every button so I can't see where a jump would come into play.

>>16425190

>The deflection and posture system is fun

Regardless of your opinion on it, it would not fit in Nioh's combat and enemy roster. Katana is already focused on parrying and countering. Maybe you could add posture as a new weapon, but that's about it. The game has to work with all other weapons and styles so the game couldn't be 90% dudes with swords, and not be glory kill centric. In short, the posture system can only really work in a game that is entirely designed around it, and thus would not be a good addition to any game that isn't.

>Sekiro also has better movement

Sure, but as you said, it wouldn't bring much to Nioh per se, you'd just have to design the game differently. Same problem as for posture. You can like Sekiro all you want, but at the end of the day, it only works as itself and has nothing to contribute to other games, especially not games that are built around variety of playstyles like Nioh is.

>>16425206

All true, I was just spit balling.

>>16425269

I do feel Nioh gets ragged on a little too much for its reusing of areas and enemies. The Revenants add a good deal of variety in the enemy department due to player builds, but they are optional. There is only so much you can do with feudal Japan before it gets a bit stale, even with magic and fantasy. Nioh tried to be more grounded for the most part where Sekiro went for a bit more of a fictionalized feel.

>>16425190

Just imagine a game that combined the mechanics Nioh's kusarigama with the mechanics Sekiro's grappling hook.

How the fuck do you get this game to click with you? I want to enjoy it so badly but I just can't get it to feel right. It could be because I want to do a Iaijitsu build that's kneecapping my fun

>>16424033

I would have enjoyed a choice too, but it really can't be helped. The historical William was in Ieyasu's corner and I don't see how the game would allow for any branching paths. I'm already content with the fact Ieyasu isn't portrayed as being spotless, having killed his fucking wife for political reasons, and every western army boss is sympathetic. Lord knows Sengoku Basara doesn't bother with any of that.

>>16425308

Maybe try armor with katana set bonuses on it or a combination of armors. If that fails then try switching up your weapon. Note that both Odachi and dual kat have iai type skills too and katana has three different possible iai skills.

>>16425308

>How the fuck do you get this game to click with you?

When I got the gun tonfas and killed bosses with an explosion finisher while twirling around with demon dance.

>>16425303

Yeah I can imagine the… nothing that would provide. The whole reason the grappling hook even exists is for the horrible stealth mechanics, take those out and the grappling hook has no use other than just avoiding encounters, because there's so few enemies you can actually use the aggressive moveset on.

God sekiro just makes me mad with how much of an absolute waste of potential it is. "Oh man lets have a cool ninja… except he's garbage at everything, has an incredibly hard limit on tools, make a massive majority of bosses play the same way with very minor variations, and to top it off lets have half the game be a fetch quest so you can climb a cliff."

>>16425190

>The deflection and posture system is fun

You mean something Nioh already has?

Perfect blocks don't take any stamina away from you and Tonfas have a mid stance perfect block which leaves the enemy open and swords have one which depletes the enemy stamina.

>>16425490

I was talking about the trading blows primarily, the sound of the clashes of swords was cool. You can't really strike away at each other like you can with certain enemies in Sekiro.

Anyway enough about that, let's talk about those faggot Raven Tengus and how shit they are.

>>16423232

This won't break my game right?

>>16426449

Worse case you just check archive validation and redownload everything.

>>16426467

Oh shit, but I got it of CODEX's store, they don't give me that option.

>>16426376

>let's talk about those faggot Raven Tengus and how shit they are

They have like 3 attacks which are heavily telegraphed and easily punished.

Namahage is the real shit.

>>16426575

Namahage are easy if you are only fighting one or two (w/o red buffs). Get three namahage, a yukinyudo and an onyudo together for a fight; trouble will befall those unpreparedunless you spam LW and have your extraction/pleiades/weapon buffs.

>>16426839

>unless you spam LW and have your extraction/pleiades/weapon buffs.

Or if you have increased defense/attack when surrounded on your weapon or armor.

>>16423026

funny thing about it is that M+KB is supported but that doesn't extend to to the UI.

so you could use a mouse if you wanted but all the displayed button prompts would be for a game pad

this is good enough for the more basic controls that you use all the time but trying to figure out how to say compare two items or see set bonuses might be a little frustrating

>>16427238

>when surrounded

Those buffs aren't anywhere near as good as buffs to talismans, perfect ki pulse buffs, or kill count buffs. Get your buffs sorted out in the forge, anon.

>>16426575

Namahage are easier than Raven Tengus just because the former has an actual weak spot, once you hit a Namahage's horns and they lose all their Ki that's pretty much it, Ravens are easier to dodge though.

>tfw Okatsu's barefoot skin is not unlockable

I can't really handle the diablo style of random loot with 95% of the effects being shit you don't care about. Also the crafting system is ass cancer.

>>16422044

How's the performance? I've heard that it was absolutely awful at release, has it improved since then?

>>16422112

You can play as a girl?

>>16428724

You learn to enjoy it, I would say its the weakest part of Nioh though. Perhaps not having autism with my inventory would make things easier.

>>16423048

Drunk Willy from Ireland coming to Japan to beat the shit out of everyone sounds great to me

>>16428730

>I've heard that it was absolutely awful at release

Only for a handful of people, it was completely fine on 90% of rigs.

>You can play as a girl?

After a certain point in the story you unlock a tacked-on online component which is choosing a faction and getting glory points if you win. With those points (which I'm pretty sure you can also get normally playing the game but I don't remember the details as to how) you can purchase skins to play as. Those skins are essentially every NPC in the game excluding monsters, including the cute grills. Unfortunately Team Ninja knew this would be the first idea everyone will ever have so they made the cute girls significantly more expensive to unlock than anyone else.

>>16428816

From what I remember glory points can be gotten from revenants, co-op, and doing clan-related activities online. If someone is offline the only way to obtain glory would be from the preset revenants.

>>16426575

I can't imagine having fun against Raven Tengu without Swallow's Wing II.

>>16428832

Japans Yogurt fetish needs to stop

>>16428968

Reinstalling and trying a fresh new game after a year really is a nice experience. After 150+ hours the game changes so much a fresh game is totally different from what you remember.

>>16428832

>>16428884

>you will never meet your waifu while working at the local yogurt factory

>>16428884

why do they insist on making cum white? when i cum my shit is clear like water. maybe with some chunks of a yellowish white. my bro always told me that those were the sperms, but i think its protein.

the sperm is in the clear watery stuff.

>>16429186

I think you need to stop fapping for a while anon

>>16429186

I jerk off 5-9 times daily and my sperm only goes clear around 8 something is wrong with you my man get your prostate checked.

>16429186

Epic post bro. This one's going in the 'chan history book. Get me in the screencap.

>>16429186

>clear as water

Did you have a vasectomy?

>>16429291

How? Doesn't it start hurting after the second time.

>>16429331

Good genes cunt

This game is so bad and so peasantry that it wont support my monitors resolution.

Pure trash for console peasants.

>>16429344

>good genes allow you to masturbate 5 times a day

Isn't doing it more than 4 times in one day unhealthy? Let alone every day.

>>16429385

I was thinking about more weapons, but honestly the ones we have pretty much cover it all. Naginata looks like it would just be a bigger Odachi. I was thinking of claws like from Ninja Gaiden 2 but they won't be all that different from dual katanas unless claws are all about grabbing and throwing.

>>16431795

Sekirofags need to be bullied for allowing Miyahacki to shit out another inferior action game.

>>16429432

ED and premature ejaculation is also major symptoms of circumcision

>>16431829

to be fair all they play is dark souls

If anything else comes around thats different and actually an action game they piss their pants.

>>16429660

More ranged weapons like the dual pistols would be nice. That was one that people were looking for in each dlc.

>>16431933

Good point. I was an action pleb when I was really into Dark Souls.

>>16431795

There is another part of the reason Nioh is a better combat game. The ki system is just one part, rather than the whole thing.

So one of my dream games is a European Nioh. Same premise of being historical but with fantasy elements included. Combat would be different because Japan can get away with that fast and crazy stuff, I feel a European setting wouldn't fit with it as much.

What would the ideal setting be? I thought Danish/Viking invasion of England. That way you get a big clash of cultures and mythology, allowing you to draw from Nordic and English monsters and characters. Throw in some Celtic characters for even more. The problem would be that the weaponry and martial arts weren't as varied and sophisticated at this point. Nioh's setting is arguably perfect as its the height of melee combat before firearms replaced them.

What are some of the strongest guardian spirits currently? When I played I remember a few of the fire spirits being fairly OP between the four elements.

>>16433943

Not much for action games I don't think. Also stop buying those books.

>>16434048

I'd love to see some games following old Cymraeg mythology myself.

The pre-christian stuff. When King Arthur was a crazy warlord whose retinue included gods and aliens. With whom he fought saxons or plundered other worlds for fun/profit.

>>16433609

They made that decades ago anon. It's called Darklands.

>>16433943

Samurai Warriors and Sengoku Basara, unless you hate musous. SW is stylized but mostly aims to keep true to the events of the war, just a bit heightened. More realistic than Nioh. Basara on the other hand is all style, Ieyasu is a dindu nuffin pure hero and Nobunaga is a literal demon king.

>>16433943

way of the samurai

>>16434048

>According to a near-contemporary source, someone is alleged to have been beaten to death with a handgun in the Battle of Knockdoe, in which hundreds of gallowglasses died, so there's that too.

<playing game about some Irish gallonglas guy

<find a pistol, decide to equip it because it seems cool

<character has no idea how to shoot it, instead uses it exclusively as a melee weapon

>>16434089

Thanks for the recommendation but no. I mean an action RPG that plays similar to Nioh with European history, weaponry, myth etc.

>>16435255

>I mean an action RPG that plays similar to Nioh

Action RPG in the west exclusively means gookclicker cooldown simulators.

Which Tonfa mystic art is better? I like the sound of Kannagi, cancelling out of any move sounds bad ass, but the extra damage from Apocalypse sounds necessary, I feel like my attacks do barely any damage compared to my Odachi, Spear and Axe.

>>16436244

Cancelling out of attacks gives you much more options, its what i went with.

>>16436244

Kannagi. Build properly and become comfortable being up-close all the time with the tonfas and you can make up the difference of Apocalypse while having more freedom when it comes to combos.

>>16436244

Kannagi is absolutely superior. Demon Dance has iframes and you can effectively chain pulverize with Kannagi whereas Apocalypse leaves you open against anything that has poise.

>>16436913

>Demon Dance has iframes

Holy shit, I'm sold, I assumed I would have to demon dance and then dodge away to actually evade attacks, that makes it so much better.

>>16434891

I thought Way of the Samurai was more like a samurai hardcore role-play/life-sim or something, with next to no mythological happenings at all.

Is the series any good?

>>16438865

1

But you can start with either. Theyre mostly the same but 4 is more bananas.

>>16440070

Unfortunately allot of older games tend to tie the physics to the FPS, so running the game at higher then 30 breaks a bunch of things.

For example GTA3 has it so when at higher the 30fps momentum will build up from almost nothing and walking down a hill and having your feet slightly leave the ground will fling you at 100mph to your death.

Most porters are too lazy to try working around things so they just leave it at 30. The recent Killer 7 PC port is the only game i'v seen where the porters actually dealt with the frame rate physics well. like the majority of the game runs at 60, but the reloading animation and some abilities are still 30 so they function properly.

>>16440070

You can bump it up to 60 on PC.

Which of course before I started the game I went into the settings and that was the first thing I changed.

Way of the Samurai 4 seems to be very nonlinear game like New Vegas.

>>16440231

It's been that way since the first game, I'v only played a little bit, but even at the very start of the first one as soon as your in control of your character your put in the situation where a girl is being kidnapped. You can do nothing and let them pass, you can choose to fight the really hard enemy who will likely kill you, you can ask to join their gang, or you can just turn around and go down a different path entirely.

>>16440231

Its way more non linear than New Vegas

>>16440511

Thats an abyss weapon. Some people go back and die in the first few levels to create revenant which can drop such weapons.

Don't worry too much about getting good stuff on your first playthrough.

>tfw nearly done with the base game so need to start farming smithing texts and deciding what gear, sets and/or combinations I want for NG

>>16441283

Way of the Strong (NG+) is pretty similar to the base game in terms of difficulty, use it to find your favorite sets and techniques because way of the demon and up is when things start to get crazy

>>16441618

I know I'm going full sword and spear, with a little onmyo and ninjitsu to help out (mainly power pill and weakness talisman). I just seem to remember reading that you should have good gear for even the DLC on NG.

>>16441762

>I just seem to remember reading that you should have good gear for even the DLC on NG.

Nah

As long as you have full divines at level 150 you shouldn't have any problems. Just don't forget to fuse the divines you get from the DLC into your set for the + values.

The real difficulty of the DLC is that its effectively the base game souped up to 11 at all time. You'll have ranged enemies which you can't kill using just your weapons, Yokai with crazy movesets and bosses that can one shot you with a good hit.

>feel like replaying this after like a year

>can't remember a single goddamn mechanic

Fuck sake this is so confusing and I already beat the fucking thing last year

>>16441971

just dodge and hit the enemy

>>16441971

Getting ki pulse back into your reflexes is priority one. Getting into a steady but prudent offence is two. Don't be afraid to snipe.

>sekiros revival mechanic is literally just quick change scrolls

>>16442717

Its posture system is also just literally ki but dragged on to prevent any fun.

>>16442717

Time to do a Sekiro run in Nioh.

>Katana primarily, swap to axe or spear for a rare secondary attack, can only use these about five times per life/run

>Only one katana skill allowed, must swap them in the menu to be allowed to use it

>Quick Change scrolls, eventually use two

>Shurikens

>Agility at A always

>Must perfect block as much as possible

>Unlimited Ninjitsu must be low

Watch out Nioh kiddies, I'm about to show you what a REAL game looks like. Fuck all that variety and fun.

>>16442741

>>16442717

>>16442743

I swear this sekiro/nioh rivalry is so forced, I'm willing to bet I'd see a thread about it on cuckchan.

>>16442743

Stream it, if you're so great.

>>16440231

Way of the Samurai 4 is also short as fuck, you're supposed to do dozens of playthroughs to get multiple endings. Fortunately, unlike the first two games there is no hard time limit so you can't miss anything. Time advances only at your behest by either sleeping, doing a main mission or getting yourself caught and tortured by the three sisters

>>16442763

The rivalry is forced, but make no mistake, this is the backlash and mocking, not the initial shilling.

>>16442763

Nioh 2 will clear the air about the whole thing, I also hope it has a pure story like Nioh has. Though it's going to be hard to beat the adventures of an irishman who comes to Nippon to save his spirit waifu from an english wizard.

>>16442789

Didn't they say that Nioh 2 will have character creation? That's going to make the story suffer because they'd have to make it more generic. I remember at first I was pissed that Nioh didn't have character creation, but in the end I appreciated that they made a set protagonist, the adventures of Willie ended up being more enjoyable to me than having to read MUH LORE arguments from Dark Souls lore spergs.

>>16442802

Nioh 2 does have character creation. Would be cool if they made the story and characters accommodate if the player makes a foreigner.

>>16442802

William covered the entire Sengoku Era. There couldn't possibly be any where else to keep going to that particular setting. Either they made the same premise to the Bakumatsu, or they went full customisation in

an all new demon war. I would have chosen the first option myself, but the second is acceptable. It's better than Sekiro which removes customisation for the most boring protagonist humanly possible, and in a setting that ignores the Sengoku era charm altogether.

>>16442808

I think someone said its still Sengoku era. I was expecting it to be the years immediately afterward, with all the ronin and adjusting. I also wanted to see Musashi.

>>16442830

If it's still Sengoku Era, then the only viable time is a prequel in the Nobunaga period. My body is very much ready for this.

>>16441283

The tiny handful of sets worth using are easily farmed from revenants. You'll probably get burned out by the time you hit wotw, if you're still all-in at that point, THEN start worrying about smithing texts.

>>16441762

>full sword and spear

These two are mutually exclusive. You can half ass both, or you can go fully into one or the other. There's no benefit to spreading yourself thin like that with a bunch of redundant skills when you've already got Spearfall, Chidori, Twisting Spear, Flying Monkey, Wild Spear, Merciless Barrage, and Spear Shove.

>mainly power pill and weakness talisman

Power Pill is a waste of a slot as Carnage Talismans are ~3x more effective. Quick Change Scrolls are the only 'must-have' jutsu for non-dex builds.

Also, I feel like they missed an opportunity by not putting in Fuma Kotaro in Nioh. I mean this shit writes itself, Fuma is often depicted in fiction as a demon (especially since Fuma means "wind demon"), he is also often depicted as being Hanzo's killer. Hanzo's son is the first man Willie befriends so you could have Fuma go around causing havoc, Willie and Hanzo eventually catch and kill him.

>>16442886

He covered as much as he could. A sequel that has him arriving earlier would be fucking silly, now wouldn't it? You can't really have a dude that was historically Ieyajew's advisor arriving for Okehazama.

>>16442789

>>16442802

To be fair, beyond William's motivation, he has relatively few character moments and is more there for the ride. Which makes sense, it is more about the things going on around him, he is just dealing with it on the way to getting what he wants. The moments where is more than a silent protagonist are pretty great, though.

>>16442785

Traveling between areas without using fast travel uses time, iirc.

>>16442924

>These two are mutually exclusive

No they aren't

Swords are close ranged with better counters and great damage compared to a spear which is good for zoning.

Swords are great just for their mystic art alone which makes back attacks do double damage.

>>16444012

don't bother with reforging and soul matching until you've finished the base game

don't be a souls game retard, use all the tools available to you.

explore the levels for all locks of hair and kodamas

avoid relying too much on crutches like slot and makibishi

>>16423026

If you can run it at a constant 60 FPS, it works fine. If you can't, instead of just a regular drop in framerate, the speed of the game itself will be cut by half in taxing situations. Japanese still don't know how to separate game logic and screen refresh.

>>16443741

I expect a demo this year, since KT said they were going to do a beta again to get feedback like with Nioh.

>>16444098

Stop mashing; learn the rhythm of your weapons' attack strings.

>>16444098

How is fps? Does game runs on constant speed or it feels like random speed ups/slowdowns? If so, that something might be wrong with the game.

>>16444012

Skills outweigh regular attacks but not instantly and you have to understand how to use them effectively. And to unlock some stuff you need to do side missions, like dojo and other stuff. Technically game does tell you that, but you might ignore it because it looks (and is) a part of tutorial. But learning skills in dojo dedicated to learning skills does make sense.

Who is the complete cunt who signed off on those multiple boss missions? Anti-fun incarnate.

>>16444712

git gud

>>16442743

Wait…theres a perfect block mechanic? I never seen any indication of it anywhere? I DID skip the tutorial mission since I played the game before though.

I know theres a counter skill with the hammer which the timing is reallly damn hard to pull off.

How do i pull off the perfect block?

>>16444718

The missions straight up suck. You spend so much of the fight just kiting an enemy and hoping the luck falls your way for a couple of hits. Generally, you'd want multiple enemy boss fights to actually be designed to be fought together. These missions were not designed that way.

>>16434877

>Basara on the other hand is all style, Ieyasu is a dindu nuffin pure hero and Nobunaga is a literal demon king.

SW was pretty much like that too in the first 2 games since they made Nobunaga a counterpart to DW's Cao Cao, up until DW 8 the story of the games could be summed up as "Wei man bad, Shu man good". And just as the Wei kingdom's story became more nuanced as the games went on, culminating with 8 where they're not the cartoonishly evil faction anymore, so did Nobunaga's portrayal get more nuanced as more SW games were made.

>>16444732

>How do i pull off the perfect block?

Its called a timed guard. You need to block and release in the proper time frame and you will take no Ki damage.

>>16444861

>You spend so much of the fight just kiting an enemy and hoping the luck falls your way for a couple of hits

lmao git gud

>>16444889

I think you're looking for the Dark Souls thread friend.

>>16444897

Dark souls would be perfect for a shitter like you who can only deal with 1v1s.

>>16444924

>Defending these low effort missions

Oh to be a fanboy again.

Is there any sort of scaling when you play co-op with someone who's at a much lower level than you?

>>16445022

Yes, your base stats are lowered to be around their level.

>>16445022

Yes, but if you're at a high enough level it's effectively negligible, even if you lose half your of all your stats. I once got pulled into a NG mission while I was already on NG+++ and I overkilled everything into the next solar system while also one-shotting the boss.

>>16445030

I've helped people out before and destroy bosses for them. Even with the limit to levels.

I just learned yesterday that Nioh was written by Hisao Kurosawa based on an unfinished script from his father. Hisao was the son of the famous director and writer Akira Kurosawa known for Ran (1985) and Seven Samurai (1954).

>>16444953

>if you're not a shitter like me you must be a fanboy

Absolute state of you right now

>>16444732

Block just before you get hit. It comes naturally with practice. But to be honest its not that useful in itself, dodge-kipulse is way more important in my opinion. At some point you will never run out of stamina if you do everything right (unless you use "spend all stamina for more damage" attacks of course).

>>16444953

Seriously, git gud.

>>16445269

It is going to be more important because youkai fuck you up hard if you try to block them.

>>16445273

There are certain attacks which are easier to block and there are others which are made to be dodged.

The best way to know what to do when is to just play the game.

Theres also toughness thresholds which determine the Ki used when blocking. At 300 toughness you can pretty much block anything without breaking a sweat

>>16444841

And my point was that you cannot milk the setting anymore while having william do it. You can only do it with him out of the picture.

>>16445092

I didn't know that.

I'm trying to imagine an actual Kurosawa movie based on Nioh but I can't see it. I'm guessing the original script didn't involve fighting yokai and revenants.

>>16444872

>>16445504

Could sopmeone redpill me of Sengoku era, and Nobunaga? Was he really that evil?

>>16445518

It was a script for a move called Oni and his son was going to direct it. But the movie part of the game got canceled in production. Apparently the game was in development for over 10 years and started back during PS2 but it was scrapped and reworked several times.

>>16445543

Nobunaga wasn't really evil, not more so than any other merciless warlord. Some anime/games portray him as a good guy, some as a bad guy, some as a literal demon.

He seriously fucked over people who wouldn't submit to him though, and if people fled from him in battle he wouldn't spare them, he'd just have them run down.

He pretty much changed Japan and how they fought (introducing gunpowder and firearms and more roman-style unit infantry) and is regarded as one of the greatest tacticians to ever live. His governing also changed things up big time, though I know less about that.

>>16445117

Hand waving piss poor missions to le git gud is something a fan boy would do though. Only one I have left is Return of the Gourd but all the post-game missions are lame to play.

>>16445543

The two answers before me are accurate, but yeah basically whether you consider him evil or not is pretty much entirely up to how important the context is to you. He was a warlord with enormous ambition, he did not hesitate to dispose of any obstacles. But in the Sengoku Era, everyone was at each other's throats. Even monk groups were legit military mighty factions back then. Nobunaga was the first to say "fuck this shit, I want to unify Japan" even though he was basically a nobody. He killed his lord in a surprise attack during a rainstorm to gain freedom, and that made him a target for pretty much everybody around him. He had to go through some pretty insane political and military maneuvering just to survive, and had some pretty fucking close calls. Some blame him for massacring anyone in his way for that, some don't because he had no realistic alternative. Fact remains that Akechi Mitsuhide, one of his most trusted retainers since the starts, chose to betray and kill him, and while there is no concrete evidence of his motive, the generally accepted one is that he was fed up with his lord's ruthlessness, so there is that.

Personally though, I consider Ieyasu to be far more morally reprehensible. He was just a sneaky, opportunistic fucker. He got beaten at every turn whenever he made a bid for power, bowed down to his victor, and when it was just down to him and Mitsuhide, who had the superior numbers at Sekigahara, he just literally bought his army for under him because he knew he was too much of a military retard to beat Mitsuhide fairly. Your founder of a two-century military dictatorship, everyone.

>>16445560

>>16445619

If Nobunaga lived he would have successfully conquered Korea.

>>16445768

Yeah, the problem is that gooks, despite being known as sissyboys by other Asians throughout history, always have that ONE dude at a critical moment of history with extremely high T levels who single-handedly saves them from getting their little negholes pozzed. At the time it was Admiral Yi who cockblocked Toyotomi's ambition of conquering the mainland. I have no idea if even Nobunaga could overcome him, maybe if he would butter up with the Portugese even more than he did.

>>16445621

>All this talk of difficulty and git gud

>No one actually addressed my grievances with the missions being low effort trash of just slapping two bosses together

Why even bring up Trumpstein by the way?

>>16445849

Reminds me of the good ol' days when Nioh was relatively new and Soulspergs kept calling the optional boss fight against Muneshige and Tadakatsu "a shittier Ornstein and Smough fight". Why was it a worse Ornstein and Smough fight?

Because they couldn't beat it

>>16445863

>spoiler

How? I beat TJ&E on my first session in anal landing strip. The rafters and buttresses provided a bigger challenge, for fuck's sake.

>>16445863

Those two aint shit in the long run, especially as you have that rock to help out. Nobunaga and Obsidian Samurai are the real pain, especially as you have to fight a bunch of fucks just to fight them.

>>16445849

Mission requirements and difficulty was always a bit sketchy with Nioh. They should be perfectly doable in NG. As for Souls, those bosses are designed to work together so you don't have to kite them over and over again to win.

>>16445890

>those bosses are designed to work together

That's only true of Ornstein and Smough. Most youtube fags with a vested interest in pretending from can do no wrong admit every other double boss they did missed the mark. But From insists making them, as critical path. You have no case, dude.

>>16445890

>Nobunaga and Obsidian Samurai are the real pain

wew lad

git gud

>>16445890

>They should be perfectly doable in NG

They are

They are even perfectly doable in WotN which is where the game peaks in difficulty. You are an absolute shitter having trouble with a really basic combination of enemies. If you want help then ask for it, don't do the song and dance of "muh design" to hide your incompetence.

>>16445886

I was talking about how they couldn't beat Tadakatsu and Muneshige when the only guy in the duo who is even mildly threatening is Muneshige because he's on your ass constantly while Honda just lumbers around like a fatass in the background.

>>16445890

>Nobunaga and Obsidian Samurai are the real pain, especially as you have to fight a bunch of fucks just to fight them.

The fags you fight in the beginning aren't even hard and WE WUZ SAMRAYZ N SHEIT isn't as hard as Nobunaga's Snow Waifu in the other Nobunaga gank fight. Besides, that one is even MORE optional as it wasn't even part of the main game but was added in in a patch.

>As for Souls, those bosses are designed to work together so you don't have to kite them over and over again to win.

Ornstein and Smough are literally the only gank boss that's designed well in the Souls games, all the other ones are lazy, if not outright "just fight the same dude, but there's two (or more) of him"

>>16445923

Because its fun and much more drop-in-and-play than anything else we've been offered. Also Generations is utter shit.

>>16443884

>better counters

<spam backwave like an ape with suboptimal stats

Truly compliments the spear toolkit.

>great damage compared to a spear

On the high-end, you're either chaining living weapon as you tear through trash, fully buffing and insta-gibbing bosses or just skipping trash entirely, buffing and insta-gibbing said boss. Swords, Dual Swords, Spears, Odachi, and Kusa have no problem doing this. Low to mid-end where you're going to spend the bulk of your playtime, Chidori easily matches spamming current patch quickdraw from behind in boss DPS while being way less clunky.

>Swords are great just for their mystic art alone which makes back attacks do double damage

Sword of Execution doesn't make swords great. It used to, but we're long past that. Currently it makes them merely competitive, and that's fine, but again, why would you pair Swords with Spears? If you're that into Swords, go Sword+Dual Swords for two kits that actually complement each other.

>>16447412

><spam backwave like an ape with suboptimal stats

>backwave when Haze exists

>>go Sword+Dual Swords for two kits that actually complement each other

Are you genuinely stupid?

>>16447436

>patched haze

Hahahahahah.

>>16447412

I was shocked to see how bad Chidori fucked up the big boy at Sekigahara.

>>16448280

There is a lot of bullshit in this game, that's for sure.

>>16449017

Mid is better for blocking and certain weapons, High is generally better for more dps (generally), and low is better for dodging and stunlocking.

The most important part of each stance is that it greatly alters your moveset, and certain attacks hit different places. Swapping stances mid combo opens a ton of possibilities for bigger damage and longer combos.

>>16449017

I'm halfway through my first play-through, and I stuck with mid-stance most of the time. Now I'm finally getting a feel for it (previously I just played it like a Souls game) I'm seeing how the different stances have different moves that allow for changes in playstyle.

e.g. I just did the mission where you fight the spiders. Mid-stance hit too high for those with horizontal swipes, but both low and high stances had vertical cuts that got the little bastards easily.

Low stance allows you to hit quickly and often and dodge more too, so if you want to build-up the status/debuff meter on the enemy, it's a good option. Then when they're stunned you switch to high stance and whack them good since yokai get stunned with (nearly?) every hit when low on ki they won't interupt you, even with the slower combos.

And each stance is good for different things.

Low is designed for dodging quickly, mid is good for guarding, and high is good for damage.

I don't really see a use for stance changes with the katana, but from what I saw in the Odachi skill tree it seems designed specifically for switching stances mid-combo and chaining long strings.

There are alot of new Code Vein gameplay on youtube.

>>16449240

Shit game for dumb weebs.

>Like Dark Souls, but, like, Anime, dude.

Fuck you.

>>16448280

Jump into her big leaps not away from them. Then when you get in there, stay close and to the side or back.

>>16449240

It's made by the god eater guys. Their whole thing is trying to make more of a great thing and make it cheap and unfun. I doubt this one will be any different.

>>16450708

Trump is making Israel great again.

>>16445836

It's rather funny that the highest amount of T the asians ever had was during this period up until the bloody end with Hideyori's death and (((Ieyasu))) starting the Edo period

>>16445621

I want to fuck Fuku so bad, FUCK

>Start a new save since I pretty much lost my experience after all this time

>Find out the hidden teahouse and unlocked skins work across all saves

Neat.

>>16457250

Nioh's got a good harem going on. Okatsu, Fuku, Ginchiyo, Maria, Hino-Enma.

>>16457353

That is pretty neat. Does glory carry over too or is that tied to each save?

>>16457423

Glory is shared.

>>16457423

Glory is definitely shared, the only limitation I've seen is that on the new save, you can only unlock characters you've seen, like I only have Hanzo on the shop list right now. Seems like a completely trivial limitation seeing you can just unlock in the more advanced save.

>>16457475

I don't have any characters listed in my teahouse ATM, and obviously I've met Hanzo and a few of the waifus. Do they only show up as options at a later point, or when I've got enough glory? (Currently sitting on just under 3k)

>>16457494

>Surely you mean Mitsunari

I did, thanks for correcting.

>I skipped Nioh because it was too much "fight famous Sengoku Jidai person #31 to #53" instead of the youkai war I was expecting.

I don't know about that, you do fight historical figures as bosses but the meat of the game is fighting yokai. It's just a yokai war that doesn't lose sight of the sengoku setting, really, and I think it was the right path to take. You don't deserve to miss on Nioh for such a reason.

>>16457503

That's odd, maybe it works on a mechanic more arcane that it needs to be. Full disclosure for the purpose of figuring this shit out.

>Old save is up to Way of the Wise

>Around 84k glory

>The only skins I unlocked are Mitsunari, Nobunaga, Ginchiyo and Maria

>>16457532

Maria is the one I want even though I'm way short of the glory cost. I've been fighting every revenant I come across but it's not earning me much.

Do you remember what you did to unlock Maria as a skin?

>>16457550

Participate in the faction battles, it takes one week but the glory payout is huge if you donate diligently, even if you lose. It dwarfs fighting revenants either way.

Back when this came out for pc I couldnt get past the launcher, did this get patched or is the port still shit?

>>16457550

Fight revenants, do co-op (and be successful) and do the clan battles once you can. If you're a pirate, then you're fucked for those last two and a little fucked for the first, as you can only fight the few NPC revenants.

>>16457602

If someone is pirating they could probably use something like cheat engine to hack in the glory, I'd imagine the NPC grind would be awful for the female skins.

>>16457494

>Mitsuhide's mother was held hostage and Nobunaga allowed her to be killed.

Yes, but from most sources I've read it seemed like this one tidbit was mostly Mitsuhide's own fuck-up as he was the one who offered her as a hostage.

>And besides that, he was reportedly pretty abusive towards him, always mocking him for being bald.

But he was abusive to pretty much everyone, as you said, which makes me doubt that he'd be the only one who'd let it get to his head especially considering that he was never demoted after the minor fuck-ups that Nobunaga abused him for. Nobunaga didn't give a shit about muh traditions and muh family standings and this was known back when he was a whippersnapper who ruled a fractured literally who clan after his dad's death and since Mitsuhide was with him for a long time (iirc he was a childhood friend of Nobunaga's wife who recommended him) I'd expect him to quickly learn how brash and petty Nobunaga would get, but would never actually demote you and tell you to fuck off unless you ACTUALLY fucked up badly. But yeah, there's still a theory which takes his shitty treatment of even retainers that were the most trusted to him into account that says that he joined up with other lords to secretly depose him with orders from the Emperor, as the Emperor feared that given how pragmatic Nobunaga was that he'd just do away with him once he took over Japan. There's a bunch of Nobunaga's retainers who were supposedly in on it, one historian I've read even mentions Hideyoshi but at that point I felt like he was writing fanfiction, but if Ieajew was in on it then it wouldn't surprise me if the fat faggot used Akechi to do the deed so that no heat can come to the tanuki jew.

>At least Hideyoshi had the yabou to conquer the world; got his ass kicked right at the start though.

He was unlucky that at that time the gooks had admiral Yi in their ranks, it's no wonder why he is considered one of the, if not the best naval commanders in history. He would also frequently get jailed for not following some orders by the head gook to the letter, but every single time he would have to be let free virtually instantly because as soon as he wasn't at the helm of the Korean navy, Hideyoshi would smack the gook navy around like they were Tijuana crack whores, which was the inverse of what would happen if Yi was leading the navy, he would stomp through the Japanese navy even if he was horribly outnumbered and would do so without having any of the ships at his command sinked.

>>16457881

Go watch "Nobunaga: King of Zipangu"

>>16457626

Well, Nioh was supposedly originally a musou. The current game being set in the Sengoku Era is kind of unnecessary for a fair bit of the game. Early on, and for most side missions, William is more of a youkai extermination specialist. Once it goes fully into the territory of the war, then yeah, it is more or less William running around behind enemy lines to defeat the general who is using youkai.

I am sorely disappointed that they didn't dig more into Celtic or English folklore for monsters. That would have been a good way to progress and show that the enemy factions are relying more on the alchemy used by the English.

>>16458876

>I am sorely disappointed that they didn't dig more into Celtic or English folklore for monsters

The game takes place in Japan you retard

Of course none of the western developers are ever going to make a good game so all you can do is clamor for "representation" in Japanese games like a nigger.

>>16459535

Even when you are facing the same Oni in England?

Man I am really struggling to gel with this game's systems. Probably doesn't help that I haven't been able to just sit down for an extended session with it since real life horse shit has been interrupting me every single day of the week. The first proper boss on the burning ship annihilated my asshole an embarrassing number of times. Am I meant to just go ham when the yokai run out of ki? They stagger a bit and they take more damage but it seems to me they are still able to attack.

>>16459860

What actually changes when yokai are out of ki is that they can be staggered, like you observed. There's no final blow opportunity like in humans, but it is a good time to bust out your living weapon. Remember to always ki pulse, and purchase the "living water" samurai skills as early as you can. Its description reads "enables ki pulse even when dodging" but it's misleading, what it actually means is that you automatically ki pulse when you dodge. You won't be able to beat the second boss without this, trust me. Onryoki is a joke boss in comparison.

>>16459547

>Even when you are facing the same Oni in England?

You don't face the same Onis in England.

The only ones you face in there are hulked out derrick and the red Yoki which are born in test tubes and made from Kelley's spikes.

>>16458876

> show that the enemy factions are relying more on the alchemy used by the English.

You got that backwards. Amrita comes from Japan and turns people into Japanese demons. Kelley uses that force, but it doesn't come from him, hence there is no reason demons would be celtic.

I wanted to be a cool, honorabu samurai the whole time, but the temptation to respec into cool ninja is high. Also, why do I see ninja in the subtitles but hear shinobi? Is there a difference between the two, maybe the latter are official?

>>16460378

Shinobi is what they're called in actual Japanese. The term "ninja" is a modern word for someone who uses ninjitsu and was actually coined in the 60s. So in this context calling them "shinobi" is historically accurate, but calling them "ninja" in the English translation is more widely understood.

>>16460378

Ninja and shinobi is pretty much interchangable in meaning, shinobi is just the term used to make it look classier. So yeah, your guess was accurate.

Nioh's translation is pretty dumb in general. Wait until you see the "Giant toad, pronounced giant toad".

>>16460407

>>16460416

I see, thanks and yes I've seen the giant toad's yokai illustration page already. Little weird.

>>16460378

Ninja builds utilize all the ninja items, which means zoning with various traps and projectiles while using QCS to never see the death screen. There's a lot of magic and ninja tools and it isn't uncommon to see anons who want to be pure samurai begin to get tempted by the other skill trees.

>>16460378

You'll want to invest into Dexterity anyway for maxed out ninjutsu capacity and some ninja points to get some really useful ninjutsus. Paralytic traps, Kunais, Groundfire traps are all very useful in NG.

For NG+ you'll want poison traps, quick change scrolls, Suppa, Catwalking and Tiger Run.

Not to mention all the other useful passives.

So the port is still utter shit and hasnt been patched, bravo

>>16460143

>You won't be able to beat the second boss without this, trust me

NG Hino is less about ki management (can backpedal her ground moveset, block the shuriken toss, and only need to dodge the dive, don't get greedy when she's out of ki), and more about whether or not you built around a weapon with a dogshit early game where your burst is gated behind dojos you can't do yet.

>>16460452

>Ninja builds utilize all the ninja items

No one uses "all the ninja items", much like the Onmyo tree, most of the skills are genuinely terrible.

>while using QCS to never see the death screen

Every build fits in QCS. A Jutsu build is going to dunk on 'hard' targets with Shuriken/Kunai/Storm Kunai and clean up everything else with a Kusa, and eventually is able to use kunai on everything.

>anons who want to be pure samurai

You get enough free jutsu/onmyo points to get the good passives/buffs worth picking up regardless of build. The pure samurai will still have his carnage/weakness/quick change.

>>16460585

Still pretty crashy, yeah.

>>16460876

You pretty much hit the nail on the head. The only time anyone would end up a ninja or magic-centric build is NG because you can't really afford to go jack-of-all-stats so if you're doing a ninja build you're gonna have to go for the power pill over the superior carnage talisman out of necessity. From NG+ onwards all builds unless you're doing some overly specific meme build get homogenized when it comes to magic or ninjutsu usage. I ran Dragon Ninja from NG+ onwards until I changed to Dragon Ninja/Izanagi and the only 2 ninjutsu arts I ended up using frequently were Quick-Change and Shurikens, while for magic I used a bunch of shit - Leeching, Carnage, Pleiades, Extraction.

>>16461813

What got deleted?

And yes the DLCs are a bit of a drag.

>>16461856

>And yes the DLCs are a bit of a drag.

Apart from Maria the DLCs are pretty great

I wish those four armed yokais got a bit more play though

>>16461951

They do feel pretty cheap in places, the Sanada-Maru sucks. The bosses are really worth it though. Yukimura is absolutely god tier. His second edition with tonfa boy less so.

>>16461951

I'd like it more if everything didn't hit like a truck and took damage like a tank.

I was able to get a really great big dick odachi off a revenant. How come I can't find any revenants using dual weeb swords? Especially for the kind of game that this is? Very unusual. Does nobody use this type of weapon or something? I would have expected a game like this to attract filthy naruto style weebs like flies to shit.

>>16462139

All I can say is that dual swords were probably my least used type of weapon. I can't make an argument why they're underpowered or anything, I play Nioh adapting to whatever weapon is the most useful at any moment, and I rarely stuck with dual swords.

>>16462162

It was just RNGesus fucking with me hardcore. I got a great set in the very next mission. They looked dumb as fuck though so I used the appearance change thing at the blacksmith and now I'm all golden.

How the hell does this soul match thing work? Every combination I try just seems to make the weapon worse. I want my new swords to inherit an ability from my old ones and the tutorial says it has to have the symbol beside it, which it does, and I have to have it at max familiarity, which I do. Then it tells me that my new swords won't inherit the ability. What is this fucking system?

>>16462761

>Then it tells me that my new swords won't inherit the ability

That means the abilities are in conflicting pools. Read this to get a general understanding of the system, because it's pretty obtuse and poorly explained in-game: https://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Reforge

And then you can use this to help find suitable candidates for inheriting bonuses: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16ATVIr-dSH-n10925y_KLLihv1ucjmYXSSSEg_WqmnU/edit#gid=0

>>16462761

soul matching in the base game is a waste of money

>>16463639

>>16462761

Yeah, don't bother with forging yet. Refashion is fine and I did plenty of it. I did a tiny bit of soul matching because I didn't want to swap a weapon out and lose the big full set bonus.

Whats the best way to get Cracked Ochoko Cups?

I don't have a build that can one shot the masters in way of the nioh yet.

The fuck do I do about this Nue faggot? He just drops way too many yokai zones, I'm not good enough at the ki pulse thing to get rid of all of them and I have run out of salt. If I am foolish enough to get hit by the first shot of his 4 lightning bolts then the second one will kill me 100% of the time because I can't move out of the way after being zapped the first time.

If it was just a straight up fight with this faggot I would have killed him long ago but all these constant yokai zones mean I never have enough ki.

>>16465532

Do you have the weapon art to ki pulse on dodge? And do you ki pulse after every attack chain? Cause if not, do so.

>>16465534

It's alright fam, I did it on the very next try. I managed to hit his glowing weak spot while he was casting the lightning and then I went ham on him with big dick odachi using living weapon when he was out of ki.

>>16465540

There you go. That big lightning beam is the key to destroying Nue. He has the attack that shoots lightning down on you, which tracks you a few times and his recovery blast which is meant to get you out from punishing him when he is out of ki.

>>16466417

>>16466411

okay but why is he wearing nothing but a fundoshi?

>>16466435

Because you can wear fundoshi in Nioh unlike any other clothes in avaiable in CaS

>>16466442

Couldn't you give him bits of Mitsu's outfit? And there are other generic pieces of samurai-esque armour in there too.

>>16466497

Nah, fuck off m8, this is DRUNK WILLY FROM IRELAND, READY TO FIST THE COMPETITION TO DEATH

>>16466580

>DRUNK WILLY FROM IRELAND

So dress him in a potato sack and arm him with a paddy wagon finisher.

Do you goys play with K&M or with a gamepad?

I tried using an Xbox 360 controller but didn't feel right, ended up using K&M and it's definitely an upgrade, I actually reccomend it over controllers, at least over the 360 controller that is, but only if your mouse has extra buttons.

>>16448280

Aside from you being shit, why was the ogress still alive after the 20 second mark?

>>16466864

>I tried using an Xbox 360 controller but didn't feel right

That's because xbox controllers are primarily designed to be used for first/third person shooters, which are games you're never going to use a controller with as a mustard. If you wanted a controller for 3d action games and emulation, I don't know why you wouldn't pick up some flavor of dualshock.

I'm using dualshock 3 controller.

How long does it take to unlock a grill skin?

>>16466914

10 late game coops

>>16465532

Keep practicing on him until you git gud.

Thats what I did.

I still die tons of times to him due to tiny mistakes though.

Just dodge and block his attacks, gather up your ki and hit em when its open, thats all.

>>16466864

ps4 controller with wireless bluetooth.

It works well enough.

Do you guys think they will change the way gear works in Nioh 2? Maybe let Nioh 1 have the Diablo style loot system and let Nioh 2 be just pure armour and sets. I don't hate the gear and loot, but I would not miss it at all if it were gone as well.

>>16467774

Mentioning gear, I am fucking swamped with stuff. What do I do with all this? What do I sell, what do I disassemble? How do I know what to keep aside from the weapons I am using at this moment?

>>16467823

Depends on which point of the game you are

Disassemble anything below divine, they go for chump change anyway.

Then Disassemble low level and low + value divines because it would be more expensive to soul match them up than to just farm better gear.

>>16467774

why do people say nioh loot is like diablo?

when i played diablo 2, i would find armor and weapons that were actually worth equipping.

when i played nioh, i would find armor and weapons that were significantly shittier in quality by an entire 10-20 levels minimum than what i was crafting myself. literally none of it was even worth picking up.

i didn't equip a single loot drop even once.

>>16467823

Divines/Etherials with better pluses, gear with skills you need. In all honesty you just need to reforge and soul match most of the time. I sell or offer my shit to the shrine depending on what I need more at the moment.

>>16467246

Alright, that doesn't seem too hard. Also, does someone here know if you can change the button prompts to DS4 ones?

>>16467870

Using a DS4 right now and looked into it. Doesn't seem like you can.

Controllers are all the same shit though dude, you shouldn't have any bother working out what is what.

>>16467889

It's not a big deal but it's still annoys me. Why does an ex-PS4 exclusive game not have fucking DS4 button prompts?

>>16467861

The other stats are "worse" because of your familiarity with the weapon.

As your weapon's familiarity increases so does every other thing on it. This is indicated by the blue names of those effects.

>>16467911

Ah, so I've just been gimping myself a bit for no reason. Gotcha.

>>16467917

You can use whetstones to instantly increase familiarity. 7 of them will take a divine or higher weapon from 0% familiarity completely to 100%. This applies to all weapons that you have equipped including ranged.

>>16468023

Are whetstones sold by the blacksmith chick or is there an easy way to farm them?

>>16468056

You can forge them later but don't waste them right now

You don't need to use them this early in the game.

How autistic do I have to be to get to the bottom of the Abyss? I'm at floor 120~ already and it's getting damn hard.

>>16477528

Supremely autistic.

I got my hands on the pirated version of this game. (Like hell would I be a cuck and give Steam business.) To this day, I've yet to overcome the crashing issue–and it manifests as soon as I kill the very first enemy in the village you reach right after escaping the Tower of London.

Can anyone help me out with this?

>>16479781

You tried installing updates? Even though the PC versions is a full package it still needs 3 or 4 patches to be up to date, maybe that's causing the crashes. The game's super stable for me, it only crashed once in 400 hours.

>>16460227

Amrita wasn't just from Japan. It was just most abundant in Japan. They used up the Amrita that was in England during the war with Spain. Which is really questionable, because I think the idea was that Amrita was formed from people being killed, and Europe has a pretty long history of war.

The Amrita being used at that point was from Japan, though. So fair point.

I'm gonna go full ninja. All of NG/WotSamurai as a sword and spear warrior. I got the Hayabusa set from revenant drops and I got all of the Iga Jonin smithing texts. Just have to decide which one I want to go with. Probably switch between both to be honest.

>>16481222

The Dragon Ninja set is obnoxious since the 5p "unlimited shurikens" bonus guts their damage to tickle status and removes that part of your kit from being combat viable. If you go out of your way to pick up 2x Magatamas, you can build an extremely potent combination of Crossed Sickles and Head of the Igna Ninja.

>>16481043

Yes, I've installed the four updates that I was able to find for it.

I can't help but wonder if this is inherent to FitGirl's release.

>>16481222

Dragon Ninja set bonus is busted with the 7 set bonus though it does limit you to either a Kusarigama or a Sword.

>>16481261

>If you go out of your way to pick up 2x Magatamas

Yasakani Magatamas don't stack

>>16481301

I must have brain problems, I've been using two of them for the longest time.

>>16481301

Sword and Kusarigama were what I was planning on using.

>>16481320

Then you'll be set with a full dragon ninja set

Replace one of the armor piece with a tatenashi piece when you get the yasakani magatama and you're set for end game.

I just beat the game. Although i was only level 110 when I managed to do it.

What now? Do i go straight for the harder difficulty modes, the DLC or the abyss?

>>16481454

turn all your gear into divines and do the DLC

>>16481326

Tatenashi for toughness I guess? Also what guardian spirit would you recommend? I went with the bat, gives me unlimited ninjitsu chance with bonus to damage from agility as well as healing from killing blows and damage from behind buff. I got the rabbit from Okatsu as my secondary as it increases my ninjitsu attack.

>>16481454

You can try some NG+ or do what >>16481535 said. The DLC is a big spike in difficulty though, going from the base game and into that is not a gentle curve of difficulty. Even with all divines, some of them plus 1 or 2 I was getting destroyed. Only when I went through the effort of soul matching them higher did the DLC let up a little.

>>16481222 (checked)

If you actually want to go full ninja, go Iga, Dragon Ninja doesn't use as much ninjitsu as it's mostly the only light armor set that's viable and competitive on higher difficulties which mostly uses close combat as it doesn't actually focus on ninjutsu that much. Both will at higher difficulties turn your game into a No Hit run because you'll get OHKO by pretty much everything.

>>16481261

You're supposed to use shurikens purely to boost your attack and the attack boost is actually pretty good, so they just have a completely different use.

t. Dragon Ninja/Izanagi sperg

>>16481551

For guardian spirit go Kato + whatever other one you like, I went Kato + Kujaku, but most people I've seen use Kato + Aya-komori

>>16481551

>Tatenashi for toughness I guess

Tatenashi for RFD.

With the set bonus and some good luck on accessory and inheritable rolls you can get both 100% RFD and 100% reduce elemental damage(guarding) on your gear which gives you much needed survivability.

As for the guardian spirit, you'll want to use Kato as your primary spirit until you finalize your build with 300 level weapons in Way of the Nioh for the much needed close combat damage boost. The secondary one can be whatever you want but I used Itokuri(spider) for the luck boost and for farming smithing texts,cracked ochoko cups and umbracite during co op.

>The DLC is a big spike in difficulty though, going from the base game and into that is not a gentle curve of difficulty

Thats part of the fun of the DLC. I found it too boring when I went back to it after NG+.

>>16481289

I also used Fitgirl and all the available updates and didn't have any issues, the only other thing that could be fucking up are drivers I guess? Wish I could of more help.

>>16481551

>>16481535

I went straight for the first DLC but I did jack shit in terms of damage on the first boss and he did fuck-tonnes of damage against me. I let myself die and just fucking quit it. Im gonna try out NG+ for now.

>>16482249

I certainly do appreciate the help. I have recently updated my GTX 1060's drivers to the latest, upon hearing certain ominous news regarding security. I haven't tried Nioh after, however, since I've long put it out of my mind after running out of potential solutions.

>>16483136

Did you not optimize your weapons?

I don't know if this is common knowledge but I was just reading a book on Etymology and it randomly mentioned an executioner named Derrick, who invented a system of hanging using pulleys and counterweights. This system was later employed in shipyard loading systems and even modern cranes use a "derrick".

Folklore says Derrick got the job when there were no applicants for the position of executioner, so the Earl of Essex pardoned Derrick, who was sentenced to death for rape, on the condition he became executioner. Derrick would later go on to hang the Earl of Essex.

And the first boss you fight in the Tower of London is named Executioner Derrick.

https://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Derrick+the+Executioner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Derrick

Someone make the fucking thread I can't be bothered right now.

PC版が欲しいです。