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I swear, from the catalog I thought that image was some weird belly expansion art like the shit Ciircuit draws.

I like 1 more than 2 oddly enough, though I think that’s due to 1 being finished

>>16378192

>I like the game with more content and an actual ending more

Not exactly odd, anon. I still have high hope for this one though.

To answer my own questions :

>Favorite survivor

Huntress. I really want to like Artificer more, but she's just underpowered as is

>Least favorite

MUL-T. Both his attack modes have something frustrating to them, I think his design's fine, but his weakness are too pronounced.

>Your best/most fun run

Probably the time I was like "alright, I really don't feel merc but let's give him another chance" and I ended up with some prime loadout and understood how good his shift attack was. It's rare to go in a run with zero expectations and coming out pumped.

>Changes you'd like to see

Artificer's ice wall being bigger and blocking projectiles, no question

>Which is the better game, 1 or 2?

I played a few hours of 1 lately and while it has the better content, there's just no way I can see it as better. The need to kill remaining enemies after teleporter event is fucking cancer and the rope-based level design, along with the weird way you have to catch the ropes, is really no fun.

>>16378200

Well I also like it becauseit reminds me of maplestory

I like how Artificer's torso and lower half get disjointed when frozen.

>>16378062

>Favorite survivor

Mercenary the masketta man

>Least favorite

Commando

>Your best/most fun run

the one I did 5 loops and killed myself over being too tired of winning so hard and exploding everything

>Changes you'd like to see

Regular updates, game being finished, Ancient Scepter being added, maybe lance of legends for babbies too

>Which is the better game, 1 or 2?

I like 2 more already.

is bandit in 2 yet? he is my favorite in 1

>>16378168

She got her proc coedficients increased across the board. It makes a world of difference, and now the glass cannon is actually a cannon. Also I've yet to kill him, but if you damage him enough he'll teleport you out of the bazaar and lock you out.

>>16378228

Yes, but not officially. There's a modanon over at halfchan who has him added to his great big list of quintessential /v/ IF YOU'RE HARDCORE YOU PLAY WITH X ARTIFACTS mod. He's mostly functional.

>>16378101

Someone on halfchan made a MEGA but it appearently stopped updating. There is a lot though.

>>16378192

I think it'll go okay because ROR2 has roughly the same amount of content 1 did when it started getting sold, and I bought in because of /agdg/ faggotry.

Don't mind me though honestly, I'm passing through 8 because I'm a seafaring bandit. I honestly can't seem to leave where I started and it annoys me, so I figured I'd try and help.

>>16378254

Alright alright, the hash for the mega, assuming you know how to use the damn thing, is #F!BJNwmIwR!5DeRFccPqHzsvNnWyOc4Fw

Not a lot of lewds, mostly ecchi stuff this dude saved.

Goddamn I hate when all the chests are rolled into turrets or barrels.

>>16378062

>Changes you'd like to see

Make the Huntress R attack actually useful. As it is now the glaive is incredibly potent while the arrow rain does pathetic damage.

Rework pretty much everything about the Commando other than the primary attack and the dodge, especially in the sound department because it sounds like he's firing pea shooters.

MUL-T is just too fucking slow. I get that it's his main disadvantage, he's still too fucking slow.

Nerf the engineer so that people start using anything but him.

>>16378291

>make roster of interesting characters

>gimp the majority of them so everyone just uses one of them that is clearly overpowered

>>16378295

>be faggot anon

>decide the best way to fix this is to demolish the good character instead of make the others better

>>16378299

>I like playing easymode

>please don't actually challenge me

Faggot.

>>16378303

>muh RoR is a hard gaem

>>16378168

One time I had a run with robot where I had 17 clovers, like 3 glass and various on hit effects and a quick tap of the machine gun lowered his health to 0. He started to do the animation to teleport me out but as soon as he hit 0 he just stopped and went back to his idle animation.

I want to see numerous changes made immediately.

>Commando

Make him more accurate, there's no reason for his accuracy to suffer when his niche is long/mid range shooting. Make his shift roll give him invincibility frames or at least make the distance covered longer, he is too vulnerable as is and isn't nearly as mobile as Huntress or even MUL-T. Give his secondary shot a larger hitbox or make it push enemies back. Other than that, he's fine.

>Huntress

Make her able to sprint and shoot while running backwards. Nobody is going to sprint forward towards an enemy, rendering the fact she can run and gun useless.

>Engineer

He's pretty balanced so far. His lack of mobility really meshes well with his defensive and offensive ability. All I can really ask for is a noticeable timer for his shield so it won't be a surprise when it goes down right as a vagrant suicide bombs the map.

>MUL-T

I like him so far and think he's pretty solid balance-wise but if I were to change one thing, it'd be his sprint. I want to be able to stop whenever I want.

>Mercenary

He's too vulnerable to blazing enemies and especially overloading enemies. I don't think anyone has been able to defeat an overloading worm with mercenary without dying. I'd like to see something put in place for him to be able to tank more efficiently. Maybe make his R give invincibility for a longer duration, just space out the # of attacks more? I don't really know. I think his secondary attack could use some tweaking as well since it often puts me out of an enemy's range and makes me miss. I think they can get away with making that attack's hitbox far larger, but the attack itself quicker. The air-secondary should also give you some more height.

>Artificer

Changes to be made have been touched on with her but the biggest flaw is how useless her ice wall continues to be. It needs to be taller and also block projectiles similar to how Engineer's shield works. Her mobility is too poor to not have any reliable defensive maneuvers. I saw in the last thread that she should be given fall damage immunity, which makes sense. I wouldn't mind seeing an ability to levitate momentarily as well, allowing you to glide in a similar way Peach does in Super Smash Bros. Besides that, I think Artificer is a well-rounded offense survivor.

>>16378310

It's not when you're using the Engineer, which was my point all along you cunt.

>>16378345

It's not when you're using any character.

>>16378303

You're talking about a game that's based on random chance. It's already not balanced and the entire point of the game is to have fun and become completely overpowered.

NEW CHARACTERS FUCKING WHEN

>>16378377

Hopefully acrid soon.

>>16378377

gib enforcer

>>16378389

How would enforcer work on this game? His lack or both range and mobility would completely fuck him up in 3D

>>16378343

>Other than that, he's fine.

I'd argue he really isn't. His R ability is a one target stun, which isn't even remotely useful, and his secondary attack is too weak to be worth the effort of aiming it.

Also, the guns sound very weak.

>>16378393

make shotgun have much longer rage and knockback with significant damage reduction from the front.

>>16378393

the same way he always worked

people not knowing how to use his shield isnt anything new.

im more worried about what they are gonna do with his grenade since they pretty much gave it to the robot.

How does the idea of a character who is intentionally difficult to use and underpowered sound? Kinda like the mime in Dont Starve

>>16378343

I found that on drizzle his R invulnerability always works, meanwhile on monsoon and rainstorm you can take damage during it or immediately as it ends.

>>16378421

Like something that could be added once the game leaves Early Access

>>16378717

Yes to both and it's piss easy to do.

>>16378717

You know, you get 5 coins every time you obliterate yourself now.

>>16378744

You want to do an obliteration run with me?

I want the cookbot mang, cd reset along a bunch of DoT artifacts made him stupidly fun in RoR

>charge at enemy until literally standing in same frame

>activate his all directional cleavers

>get like 7-8 resets in late game since theres shit everywhere

>flambe+oil being really good for big guys

I wonder how hard he would rape my fps in a 3D enviorment

>>16378808

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I hope this ID works. Remember, the goal is to obliterate ourselves.

Im doing this one run then im done with this game for today. My last run made me pretty damn upset.

>>16378832

I shall be joining forces with you when the time comes. Let me know when that is.

>>16379028

Probably not for a while.

>>16378212

ROR1's "kill all remaining enemies" is FAR preferable to ROR2's "get everyone to stand in a circle and wait while everything is already dead".

>>16379514

give us your lobby code, then

>>16379087

Actually I think you only need at least one player in the circle

>>16379526

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I really hope I don't lag the fuck out though.

>>16378062

>Changes you'd like to see

make the snowflake not suck

make artificers ice wall easier to aim at far targets and/or pop you up into the air when used underneath you

make it clearer which portal is which when you get more than one at once

buff the pathfinding for the fireworks so they don't all immediately go right into a cliff

also buff the prototype drone so it's worth spending the equivalent of a legendary chest

>>16379531

Lag attack at the end and died. I knew it was gonna happen, game was lagging a bit the whole time.

>>16379705

>>16379710

My internet has been a little shit for quit a while now, and it just had to die out on the magma worm.

If you guys go again I might join up if this eventually gets stable.

>>16379528

Every person not in the circle GREATLY increases the time it takes before the teleporter is charged. I think it might actually double for each person outside.

>>16379591

>also buff the prototype drone so it's worth spending the equivalent of a legendary chest

Prototype drone is exactly in-line with regular drones in terms of cost/effectiveness. That is to say ALL drones are worthless. No reason to buff only the prototype, either buff them all or remove them all.

>>16379968

That does not correspond with my experience.

how cute is artificer under her egg mask and why arent her boobs bigger

>>16381016

if i pull if off will she die?

i wish this game had a shazbot menu

Can someone explain to me what's the point of the turrets you can buy scattered around the level?

Also, when is the developer going to make the drones not shit? I remember one run where I had around 10 of them and they couldn't follow me to the teleport because it was in some cave so they all died while I was busy fucking around with the boss. There either needs to be a command to tell them to close up on you or to let them phase through certain barriers. Also, the prototype drone needs to be smaller since all it fucking does most of the time is get stuck in the level geometry.

Also, some way to tell which containers have been opened from a distance, maybe having them change color to red or yellow.

Also, the game really needs indicators of how long certain abilities and items last (engineer's shield, the item that gives you wings).

>>16378393

Shotgun is basically a large cone AoE, good damage but short range, usual stuff.

To Serve And Protect (you putting the shield down) basically slows you down as usual and makes your shield incredibly larger and immune to damage, imagine the shield being placed in front of you an a wall localized on the shield forms, akin to the Engineer's shield.

Grenade, make something that stuns briefly and has a vacuum effect, to line up for shotgun.

Make the bash attack a large AoE that pushes everything away from you, with an emphasis being in the front.

It could work well because enemies now don't just phase through you and you can have a degree on control on what hits you, especially since most attacks now are ranged.

I'm still concerned the shield would be far too powerful. The only things that can hit you would be the Golem fist and worms, as long as you didn't let anything get behind you which should be easy.

Not sure if this game needs to fix it's defense scaling. It's far easier to scale your attacks but to scale your defense? Good luck with that, after a few levels there's a chance you get hit and one shot. I don't like how the (((community))) is crying about a bunch of stuff and they are listening and cratering to their needs and making the game easier.

Blazing enemies are a bit ridiculous though. Also notice that I get hit but I don't see the projectile hit me at all, as it's invisible or something. So getting hit by invisible attacks is far trash.

I hope they add different skills you can choose from so you have a alternative skill for each player to pick from.

>>16382168

The issue isn't that the game is hard, per se, because by your first loop you're already unkillable unless you do something stupid, it's that some characters are gimped - Commando and Artificer chief among them.

MUL-T is the far better option compared to Commando if you want a character that pewpews very fast. His only real drawback is that he's slow, but there's already plenty of lower tier items that can be used to boost mobility

Artificer is fucked because the game is far more reliant on maneuver than defense, and she has no defense skills, and the one that could be used that way is poorly implemented.

I imagine things might even out once more items are introduced, but it's also obvious several of the survivors need some tweaking to be viable.

>>16382298

Commando would need a good buff to his overall stats to make him worth using alongside Mul-T. As it stands, the two have similar enough movesets, but Mul-T has harder scaling and too many fundamental advantages(Two weapon slots, Railgun being hitscan and lacking a cooldown, shift ability reducing damage while having both a defensive and offensive use) to make the two equals. I'd say increase Commando's base movespeed(And Huntress' while we're at it) a little bit, give his roll some i-frames, and make his rightclick fire two shots at once or give it a second charge. Commando's R should be able to pierce up to about two or three additional enemies as well.

The big problem with commando is that he should have been massively reworked to work in 3D but wasn't. He was just given the same moveset to work in a precise hitscan area in a 3D plane, instead of a 2D plane with only two directions to worry about. In 1 he was all about crowd control, pushing hordes back and avoiding damage to continue doing so. In 2, full metal jacket loses its primary point of pushing 50% of his enemies back, and suppressive fire loses its primary point of hitting both sides. To make the jump to 3D without losing something, and taking into account the much sparser nature of enemies, commando should hit a wide area with full metal jacket and hit every enemy in a set radius with supressive fire.

>>16382298

I feel artificer really needs some work around, I just feel her ice wall isn't that good of a attack, have her run and shoot would be able to increase her mobility without trying to off set it with just increasing her attack skills.

>>16381432

>25 bucklers and not 25 wisps

Shame.

>>16382764

This game is nothing like warframe.

>>16382764

It was worth it on release because you got 2 copies, now I’d wait for the rest of the characters to get done and the final boss to be added in before buying it

Anyone hosting? I'm sick of playing with random people who just disconnect when they die on the first cycle.

>play merc, monsoon, first level

>find two challenges shrines, fuck yeah, I can finally unlock that thing

>two overloading greater wisps

>barely do any damage

>get swarmed by monsters

>decide to kite just to get my unlock, realize the fuckers have REGENERATING SHIELDS and that can't work

>die

>>16382934

I'll be there in like half an hour.

Speaking of Risk of Rain, anyone hosting the first game?

>>16378291

Sometimes it is necessary for the sake of balancing co-op. I do agree when it comes to playing alone though.

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I am a retard

METEORS ARE JUST FUNBALLS 2

ALL HAIL METEORS

>>16383353

HAIL METEOR

>>16383363

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It is time.

>>16383413

didn't mean to quote fuck.

we're in this room now:

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2 slots open

>>16383627

I tried to join but only saw darkness, then i got sent back to the lobby.

Full I guess?

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Last one got buggy and we couldn't start

>>16383729

Not playing anymore?

>>16383846

We just closed the server. It was probably full when you tried to join.

>>16378358

Watch out, we have a master gamer here.

>>16383904

Its not as long as you dont get handed shit items.

But it gets bullshit when you can be oneshot by a blazing golem out of nowhere at all when you're further on in a run.

>>16378062

>Favorite survivor

Commando. Beast late game with items.

>Least favorite

Arti sucks.

>Your best/most fun run

Commando with ceremonial dagger, will o the wisp + ukulele, behemoth, top crit and sticky bombs. The game basically played itself and I got Long Road.

>Changes you'd like to see

Make artificer not shit. More maps god damnit, half the ones we have suck and the others get old fast.

>Which is the better game, 1 or 2?

Currently 1. But 2 has the potential to become 11/10 with the right additions of content and tweaks.

>>16383996

> beast late game with items

As opposed to who? All characters melt bosses with the right items.

>Favorite

Tie between Mul-T and Engi.

>Worst

Commando because he's boring to play as. At least for me. Next in line is Artificer because dying as her is frustrating.

>Best run

Can't think of one in specific.

>Changes I'd like

Make Commando's right click be instant and accurate, like Mul-T's laser.

Tweak Huntress's R so it's not useless against every flying enemy

Visual cue to Mul-T's speed/damage% when he's in GTA mode.

More maps/bosses/items

Give Artificer a passive or something to make her more unique. Maybe temporary (5s) flight or something. Or just make her wall more defensive.

Make underwater chests more noticeable. It's always a drag looking for them.

>RoR 1 vs RoR 2

Same. Then again I was pretty burned out last time I played RoR1 so that's probably having an effect on my opinion.

Someone throw a server up now, preferable monsoon

Engineer>Huntress>Mercenary>MUL-T>Artificer>Commando.

Mobility is king, unless you are ridiculously overtuned like Engineer or a piece of shit like commando.

>>16378377

give me

BANDIT

>>16383858

Have you tried to blow up the lemurian shopkeeper with that monstrosity?

one more slot open for >>16384130

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>>16384418

>Unmasking risk of rain characters

As much as I like it, it really shouldn't be done.

same number numbnuts

Please forgive my hue tier internet

RIP

RISK OF DISCONNECTING 2

>>16384552

Invalid lobby

>>16384556

Engi here. I can't promise my internet won't be hue tier since roommates just got back.

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>>16384563

Fuck that. Its 11:00 at night, my mind is too tired for this game now.

>>16384569

Alright. It was a good run.

>>16384561

Don't worry about your hue tier internet. I knew something wrong was bound to happen. My items were just too good.

>>16384603

perfect

>>16381432

>Itsuno circus

>with magic flying daggers

Nice.

>>16385377

can't see shit, dubsman

>>16385377

>removing the assflaps

Why?

Also, when is someone going make a mod to turn every character into a grill?

>>16385428

>when is someone going make a mod to turn every character into a grill?

When you make one

>>16385338

How do you load the mods to the game? Does everyone else need them? or only the host? Think about getting on in a hour or 2.

>>16385764

This particular mod just changes the models for you and doesn't affect multiplayer in any way.

>>16384255

Yeah he died easily. Nothing happens though.

>>16378074

It does kinda look like a low-hanging gut at a glance. What a strange thing to imagine.

How the fuck do I install mods?

>>16385338

The boobs need to be bigger, we also need a mod for the butts.

>>16385954

dobson pls

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>>16385954

I am pretty sure that people added thighs to go along with the tits, although I might be wrong.

>>16386279

It's a near perfect conversion from the first one, into 3D. Some items and mechanics are tweaked to suit the more open nature, like the teleporter event requires you to stand in a radius of the teleporter while it charges. Combat is a lot more vertical and levels are way more open (since you can move around easier).

Also online is much better, it's extremely smooth to just copy a room number.

It's still in early access, so there's no final boss (it just keeps looping after the 4th level), no artifacts, and only a few characters. Even with what it has, there's a lot to explore.

>>16378062

>>Favorite survivor

Mul-T (Because i fucking love robot characters)

>>Least favorite

Also Mul-T (Because I hate slow characters)

>>Your best/most fun run

Best: Finally killed that Magma Wom for the first time. Turns out if you have enough drones anything is possible.

Fun: Any run where I have enough Kerosene and Will-o-wisps.

>>Changes you'd like to see

More survivors, Mul-T doesn't move like a brick.

>>Which is the better game, 1 or 2?

Both are good for different reasons. I still prefer 1 so far.

>>16386286

Fuck the teleporter changes. Having to wait inside a circle jerking yourself off because there's nothing worth killing is bad enough, but the wait increases for every idiot who isn't standing there with you so Multiplayer is all herding cats while you stair at the more interesting things you could be doing outside the circle.

Nice that they've added a quickplay feature so you can actually find people to play with without having to rely on some third party server list site nobody actually uses. That's the only reason I've played it as much as I have, single player gets fucking boring after a short while. Now they just need to fix a few basic mechanics so I don't feel like strangling the idiots I get matched with.

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>>16386301

All characters have the same movement speed. Except that MUL-T's dash ability goes much further than the other characters, so he's actually the fastest under most circumstances.

>>16387885

Really? He feels a lot slower than the commando unless his dash is going

What's better- rushing the teleporter every round, or hanging back and getting all the items?

>>16388784

I find that hanging around is not usually worth it.

>>16388797

If you don't get all the items you get fucked way faster. You need items to keep up with the difficulty scaling, and the number of the level you're on is a huge part of the difficulty multiplier.

so for risk of rain 2, if you die, you basically create a brand new character and start all over? not knocking it btw, game looks cool, just want to clarify

>>16388807

yeah but letting the difficulty go up while you collect maybe one or two things you missed will get you demolished.

>>16388753

He used to be the fastest, but then they nerfed his default movement speed to be the same as everyone.

If anything Artificer could use a speed buff to compensate for her lack of mobility.

>>16388784

You want to avoid having more money than chests, since the cash>exp conversion isn't very good, but you'll usually need a couple items to take down the teleporter event.

I've found that about 2-5 items is enough to hit something with decent enough synergy with your kit to take down a boss, but really as long as you're hitting the teleporter before the difficulty does more than 1 jump you'll be fine unless the rng really fucking wants you dead and only gives you rusty keys and one goat hoof

>>16388784

Deppends on what you get during the early levels, if you get a bunch of blood shrines its better to stick around for the free items, otherwise if you aren't getting that much income its better to move on, difficulty in early games is nothing compared to later levels.

Honestly I like to hang around because I try to get enough gold to level up at least up to 5-10 before moving on.

>>16386301

>play mul-t

>fuck its slow as shit

>fuck nailgun is innacurate as shit

>figure you can have two actives

>get two radios for drones and 10 fuel cells and bandoliers

>lmao my way in until 5 vagrants atomized everything at the same time

I shir you not my fps started to drop really hard during the last few levels on a 60-90 min run

>>16388809

Your progress is unlocking characters and items but yes.

>>16388809

ye, but unlike most roguelites the whole "losing your xp/gold/items" thing is not actually that bad. Risk of Rain 2 floods you with items, and most of the item drops are definitely useful.

I don't like most roguelites because those games feels too much like RNG and replaying early game content, but this isn't like that at all. It starts slower, yes, but the gameplay is the same from start to end. The only difference is that you start going through levels faster. No "go replay floor 1~4 so you can have another try at the floor 5 boss that RNG spammed summons that one run" bullshit like some other roguelites like to do.

>>16387885

>>16388753

Mul-T has the same movement speed, but he has different movement physics. He's definitely less maneuverable because of it, which is quite important when it comes to dodging enemies.

Honestly, he should be given a little bit of that extra movement speed back. His base mobility is a plain downgrade compared to the rest now.

>>16389328

There is also the way items work. Equipment is the only thing that you need to trade out, and lunar items are the only things with a proper downside to them. Everything else is a buff of some sort. So it isn't as bad if you don't get the items you want.

>>16385958

I don't want them fat or inflated.

But I want bigger boobs and butts.

It's a classic "tits or gtfo", since the characters themselves aren't really appealing to me skill wise.

>>16386258

I need them dummy thicc.

How's this game play with a controller?

I'm looking for something comfy on a couch. And is the co-op good if I want to get my friends to play something other than Warframe or Killing Floor 2?

>>16389650

There is controller support but it's a pain in the ass to aim with a stick, autoaim is quite limited. You really need a mouse for this one. Also, if there's split screen co-op I didn't find it.

>>16389650

Controller works well for Huntress and Engineer especially. Playing Commando and using Multi's rail gun are a pain the fucking ass, though on controller. I don't know about the other characters, but you can get plenty of play on a controller without trouble if you limit yourself a bit.

>>16389667

Aww, that's a shame. Thanks for the reply anon.

Might try out God Eater 3 or some other kind of co-op hunter instead.

>>16389675

Oh, right, some classes don't really need aim so they're fine, but yeah, playing commando with controller was a pain to test.

>>16389682

I'm pretty sure Commander and Artificer are the only classes that really shouldn't be played on controller, and I haven't played Artificer. And since the Commando is the most fucking boring person to play, I don't really see a reason to recommend mouse only.

>>16382764

It's a good game but it has very little content.

>>16389816

I think they blew their load a bit earlier. The lack of artifacts is what really seems to be killing the replayability. Plus, I'm actually not having fun trying to play online with randos because of how often the host alt+f4s and DCs, or it feels more like herding cats. Everyone else seems to agree, because my massive friends list stopped playing the game really fucking fast.

>>16389825

Agree with all of that, I also think that the character balancing is just awful.

Artificier has no defence mechanisms whatsoever, what were they thinking. After some time all shit has potential to OHKO your ass and this lil bitch has no iframes or shields? Replace cold wall with some energy barrier that absorbs all damage like engi shield, pushes enemies backwards while stunning them when they try to pass it and explodes after few seconds with accumulated damage absorbed from enemy fire.

Hell make it have max 3 stacks.

Now other anons tell me why my idea is retarded and i should kill myself

>>16389855

What ice wall needs is primarily to be bigger and block projectiles, but having max stacks isn't a bad idea.

>>16389855

Ice wall also should be able to hold out a lot longer, it dies nearly instantly.

>>16389650

>>16389676

Get EDF 4.1 instead. Co-op split screen, all the enemies are huge, dumb targets for chunky controller aim, and it's really fun, too.

>>16389825

It's best to play coordinated, knowing your party will be free for the next 3 hours. Full, private room with friends while in mumble gets the best rounds.

>>16389855

Artificer is already viable. She needs more mobility items than other characters, but it just forces you to git gud with strategic retreats.

I agree that ice wall should get some buff, make it block more than just enemies.

>>16389855

Artificier's design is to be that of a glass cannon with no defensive capabilities, so having a shield goes against that philosophy. She apparently has high base damage with her skills so the tooltips recommend focusing on defensive items but it's like you said, everything has the potential to OHKO.

She needs a lot of work to find success with her intended playstyle.

I like the fact that 3d environment actually made katana weebmaster fun, but i feel like he lacks in dps in some regards. And bosses can be a nightmare

>>16390072

I find that focusing on his dash for damage is best, but yeah, he can be pretty gear-dependent.

>>16390030

>the crowdfunder is the absolute shittiest use item in the game

what did hopoo meme by this?

>>16389816

Fuck mods

>>16390072

If you think ANYONE in the game lacks dps further into your run, either you just suck ass or you're playing the game wrong.

I keep thinking hoppo missed a chajce by not making the weapons of your characters upgradeable, yeah sure you've got artifacts but at the end of the day your regular weapons don't do the job and are 200% reliant in on-hit effects, maybe not weapon upgrades but abilities upgrades, maybe like use items you can only pick one upgrade for one of your abilities, which could only be obtainable in the bazaar and costs lunar coins ie: huntress hail of arrows apply on-hits, commando fires with both guns with his burst, artificer flamethrower chains like a lighting, mul-t weapon switch buffs his damage or rate of fire, or the engi mines explode into more mines. Dunno, those are a few ideas.

>>16390275

ROR 1 had an item that improved your R ability (or V in that game I think) and I see no reason why they wouldn't eventually add the same item or at least something similar.

>>16390275

>I keep thinking hoppo missed a chajce by not making the weapons of your characters upgradeable

Like what? Deal more damage? Shoot faster? That's what the items do, you fucking dingus.

>>16390251

Artificer struggles. Not so much because her attacks don't do damage or proc things, but because they have slow projectiles and are hard to hit with. If you can't hit the enemy you can't proc shit. Mercenary has an issue with Overloading Worms because you can't get near those, otherwise he's perfectly fine.

Both characters can be made fine by taking a few GOTD and a disposable missile launcher. At that point you no longer need to use any of your attacks and just let the missiles do all the work. Arguable the Merc and Huntress are best for that build because of their movement abilities.

>>16390325

>because they have slow projectiles and are hard to hit with

This is just a manner of git gud. I will agree however that it’s hard to hit at high levels because her flamethrower has a pretty limited range and is her most damaging attack, so it becomes very hard to do respectable damage without getting fucked by going too close.

>>16390325

>Not so much because her attacks don't do damage or proc things, but because they have slow projectiles and are hard to hit with

Git Gud and learn to aim. Simple as that. As long as you know how to time your hits with Artificier, have a lot of backup magazines on her and use the ice shield to instakill enemies with low health and freeze them when they walk into it, she becomes pretty damn amazing.

If you think her manuverability is well trash further on into a run either just kite enemies to death or jump around and strafe with her from side to side when fighting enemies, that strategy is absolutely invaluable.

>Mercenary has an issue with Overloading Worms because you can't get near those

You're wrong or just shit at Mercenary.

Take a look at >>16389383

>>16390539

>>16390410

Stack enough tough times, especially with a 3d printer earlier on in a run and you're nearly untouchable for the rest of it.

Does anyone have that picture an anon apparently drew of Commando covered in touch times?

>>16390593

>Stack enough tough times

The chances of getting hit drop to 0% at exactly 1,333,333,327 items.

>>16390603

Yes but it’s not hard to stack enough to get to 70 or 80%, which is a massive boost in EHP.

>>16390612

forgot (^: when I was shitposting.

>>16390539

>no mags all over his body

>>16385295

>magma worm isn't overloaded

Come on lads.

>>16390539

>Implying huntress doesn't benefit from back up mags way more than merc does

Her right click skill is easily the most powerful in the game.

>>16390781

Miner was bullshit

>>16390892

>not enforcer

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>>16389648

I like the pale skin on artificer

>>16390804

>Not getting magazines on Engineer

Anyone else not a huge fan of the new boss spawning mechanic?

It completely ruined my tactic of immediately activating the teleport (after the first stage) then fighting across the level whilst looting.

>>16392240

It was a joke anon, cause even just on a surface level engineer benefits from backup mag one tenth as much as everyone else.

>>16392394

Even so. It still benefits him somewhat for a burst against bosses by unloading every mine at once. Syringe makes him unload even faster and each mine has a 300% damage modifier but if you stack enough syringes, his basic attack becomes an instant 800% making that strat useless. Mines are the worst part of engi but the rest is just so good I can ignore it.

>>16392409

Engineer was my favourite in the first game and I love that turrets have become a core skill since they inherit items but it sucks that they removed the seeking missiles, those were the shit.

They should remove the mines and give us those back instead.

>>16392409

>>16392430

I want mines to have some sort of special mechanic about them. Like they do armor piercing or slow enemies. So much of your damage in this game is item based that something that only hits once is pretty bad, even if it is 3x damage.

>>16392446

Would be nice if there was something more than HP pool increase to level ups since just like in the first game the other stat gain from level up was insignificant.

>>16392446

Maybe make mines an extra effect of the shield and place them around it automatically so we can get seeking missiles back.

>>16392484

And they nerfed the "get 1 hp per kill" item into the fucking ground. Used to be that just getting one meant scaling all the way to 9999, and more of them increased HP per enemy.

Now you it's limited to a pathetic 100. But I'm guessing the limit gets increased with more of them?

Also is the toughness item still a thing? Teddy Bear used to give damage reduction but now it gives a chance to ignore damage which is sort of worse because RNG.

>>16392484

Also might be neat with some ASSFAGGOTS type mechanic where you can improve a skill upon level up and choose which ones to prioritise first. Maybe give them different tiers like adding bounces to huntress glaives and more maximum deployable turrets.

Is that item to improve the 'ultimate' skill from the first one still in? I know engineer could place more turrets with that but those were kind of trash in the first.

damn I was just on the 2nd snow world with the boss dead and the teleporter at 83%, so close to unlocking merc

really need either the heal or the black hole Q item, the rest I've tried are dogshit

>>16392484

Leveling up also increases your base damage. All forms of damage scale off this base damage, even item damage.

You can test this by picking Mul-T and using rail gun. Level 1 Mul-T can't 1-shot ground enemies but level 2(or 3?) can.

Also, still hosting

>>16392570

I'll play with ya. Cough up the code.

>>16392577

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>>16379905

They really need to put the difficulty on the post-game screen. A damage breakdown of what killed you would be nice too (it's usually "instagibbed by Stone Titans/Overloading Worm/Elder Lemurian for me.)

Monsoon mode is the only way to play.

>>16392550

damn I just died on the 2nd snow boss again, that's the point where the game gets hard

I thought huntress was dogshit at first but I actually prefer her to commando now 'cause you don't have to worry about aiming so much, you can focus on avoiding damage and that's a lot more doable when you can sprint most of the time, plus there are items that reduce damage taken while sprinting, plus blink is better than the commando's evade. it's also much easier to optimize dps with huntress 'cause you literally just hold left click and it will always hit something and the right click seeks too, only thing that doesn't is the arrow rain thing

is it supposed to spawn 2 bosses after a certain point or is that a bug?

>>16392789

>is it supposed to spawn 2 bosses after a certain point or is that a bug?

Bosses double once you reach Very Hard.

>>16392792

alright as long as it's supposed to do that

at first I thought it was best to try to speed run the teleporter, only collect items when you have the cash and are near, but it's actually better to focus on killing enemies so you level up and try to collect at least a few items every level. 'cause it bumps up the difficulty by 1 when you move on to the next level no matter what and you won't be getting strong enough to outpace it if you don't intentionally collect shit. you can outpace the timed difficulty increase, that's the key point

>>16392587

lmao, that went haywire

Better let the devs know.

>>16392874

Did it just have 0 cooldown or something? It looked like you were leaving a trail of electricity, fps dropped to single digits while I was watching you

>>16392884

I mean, look at the cooldown. It seems to have overflown for some reason. I made a post about it on the steam forums for all the good it'll do. Anyways, here's current lobby: 109775241000507749

What are the conditions for opening the door in the desert? I know it has something to do with the pressure plates but I can't figure out what else is required.

>>16392498

The health cap is either nonfunctional or doesn't work as described, I can pick one up in the first level and still be gaining health ten minutes later.

>>16393421

No, the plates are it. There's two, so you either need to get someone else to help you, play engineer, or somehow roll a pot or bait an enemy onto one.

>>16392874

Press them both at the same time. If you're engineer, you can achieve this with turrets. If not, push exploding jars on top of them.

>>16395000

i will try it today just for you and see where it leads me

>>16392792

Thought it adds 1 automatically if you hit shrine of the mountain.

>>16395048

>More enemies makes speeds up the money farming process of early game

>Tougher enemies makes it feel more rewarding to become OP as fuck

>Killing many, strong enemies with your OP build is more than than killing weaker and less enemies

Rainstorm is good for starting out just like in the first one but Monsoon is more fun once you're familiar with the game.

>>16395048

I'm a shitter and i think drizzle shouldnt exist. Rainstorm is rather easy after few first deaths where you dont know enemies, items and how to not die with every character. Monsoon rapes my ass but i'm getting there

>>16392874

can't see shit cap'n

>>16393430

or you could just be extra lucky, step on one pressure plate and have it work because the other already is being pressed somehow :^)

>>16392874

Anon, what the fuck did you do??

>>16394956

Should be engineer instead of mercenary in this pic imo.

>>16395244

surely you jest

>>16395244

You from stupid town?

>>16395277

>>16395280

>not taking mags as engie as revenge for the shitter merc with 3 stacks of shrooms

It's almost as good at pissing off normalfags as the meteor+shell combo.

>>16394914

>>16393430

effigy of grief also works, you only need to drop it on one switch while you stand on the other one for an instant

>>16395062

not always, I had a run once where during the first cycle I got two shrines of the mountain and only got one boss but that one boss was an overloading magma wurm

>>16395048

drizzle might be okay if you super desperate to get a certain unlock like the clover or the shell fucking game just outright refuses to give me a chance to push crabs off of the cliff god damn it but I wouldn't admit to playing on it for anything else

>>16395395

You have like a 60% chance to get reds from lockboxes now!

>>16395406

Do they really work like that? Makes it even worse that I got a Medkit from my first one

>>16395418

each key you get increases the rarity of the items in the boxes. It's a weird amount of scaling, but multiple keys aren't… useless? Better than medkits

>>16395048

shut the fuck up drizzlet

Every time that I enter Quickplay I get to the pre-game lobby and then I can't change my class or ready up. Is anyone else having this problem?

>>16395791

>All those syringes

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

>>16395062

>Thought it adds 1 automatically if you hit shrine of the mountain.

Yes, it doubles the bosses, meaning that on lower difficulties you get 2 and on Very Hard you get 4.

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>>16396692

Invalid Lobby ID. Full? :^)

>>16396907

>>16396864

Nobody wanted to play with me so I left.

>>16397327

I would have played with you but I cant be there everytime for when an anon posts his clipcode.

Tomorrow IF i see it I will play with you no problem.

>>16395781

> entering quickplay

Just post your lobby here and people will joineventually. Quickplay is full of people who disconnect as soon as something bad happens to them.

>>16397492

Sounds good, here is a new one.

109775240984645551

I got disconnected 5 minutes in, good luck gents.

>>16397580

Disconnected too, RIP game

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>>16395427

Even a single key is useful if you can find the boxes, one item to find a free item on each stage afterwards. The problem is actually finding the box, and that can be pretty annoying on some stages, such as the wetlands.

Anyone up for a game?

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>>16397904

I fucking hate wetlands. Too cluttered, everything looks the same, the verticality fucks over a bunch of characters that lack necessary movement skills and there's way too many chests you can't see because they're underwater.

One time I was looking for the teleporter for 20 minutes because it was stuck in that cave you access through the tunnel with the two diagonal pillars.

The desert map also suffers from everything looking too samey.

> run is going so good I'm already picturing us killing an elite boss

> connection hiccups

I'm going to sleep.

>>16399013

i thought they didn't add the artifact of kin yet

New update when?

>>16399021

It's not artifact related, I just got a "WARNING : The air is burning" or something like that in chat upon loading the level, and then nothing but wisps spawned.

>>16399037

it was a joke

>>16398113

>>16398228

>By accident

We told you not to. We even told you how to fix the situation. The GOTD wasn't even for you I bought it and told the other guy to take it.

Content update when? I'm getting bored of the same handful of mobs every run

i'm up if someone hosts

Can i join you guys in multiplayer if i get the cracked version? Or do i have to be a good goy and pay up?

>>16401018

It might be possible if both are the same version and modded, but otherwise pirates can't join legit fags and vice versa.

I think Gesture of the Drowned makes the framerate drop to shit regardless of the item equipped. I'm avoiding it from now on.

I'll play some games now if anyone wants to join.

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>>16399013

Merc has it pretty easy by chaining dashes. MUL-T's laser makes short work of wisps. I think being Commando would suck more since he can't 1-shot them reliably. Of course everything is trivialized with Gasoline/Ceremonial Dagger/Wisp-in-a-bottle.

>>16400849

>Content update when

Never, thanks for the money, sucker!

>>16401018

>>16401071

how would multiple pirates play together?

>>16401489

wait for the gog release

okay having tried all the classes I'd say I prefer huntress > mercenary > artificer > commando > mul-t > engineer

>>16401082

>MUL-T's laser

It's better anon. He's launching 5-foot rails of rebar. Aim at the dirt and take a look.

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>>16401675

Can't argue with your lack of taste, but engineer is easily one of the strongest.

>>16401961

Starting very soon.

>>16401993

Restarted at same address apparently

>>16401082

MUL-T's alt attack is too slow to handle more than a few wisps at a time, you're actually better off just running up to them and trying to hit them with the nailgun and grenades.

t. MUL-T main

>>16401993

Enginner is definitely the strongest character right now but he's also the most boring.

if you stack attack speed on mercenary you're gay and retarded since Whirlwind scales off of it and the higher your attack speed the less you're able to stay permanently in air.

>>16403108

if you don't stack attack speed on mercenary you're gay and retarded since eviscerate scales off of it and the higher your attack speed the more attacks it does per cast

>stone titan lasers me through eviscerate

ebin, thanks.

>>16403233

Just don't get hit

>>16403458

Obliterate yourself from existence my man.

.>>16403470

I mean, sure, getting behind 46 warbanners would have been amazing, but getting a level up to happen when you're basically naked on loop 2 is a tall fucking order.

>>16403108

are you aware that his triple slash slows your descent and lets you hover with enough attack speed? Are you not stacking backup magazines? Are you not aware that whirlwind being faster has no influence on how much airtime or distance it gives you?

>>16403526

I was in a situation where i had more attack speed than backup magazines but not enough as to hover.

>>16403575

and you would have that problem with slower speed too

>>16403458

You really need to gain a level and see how big 46 warbanners are. Sure it's still shit (only the area increases, the effect is static), but holy shit that's something to see.

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Can my potato run this shit? I want to make the jump to 3d.

>>16406390

Yea

>>16406467

Seriously? I don't see how I could run a new 3d game on a now 10 year old factory default desktop.

>>16406574

the real potato isn't your computer, but your head

just pirate the game and test the perf

>>16406965

I doubt that is the situation here. I think Hopoo already has most (although not all) of the things in that list already finished. From how long it will take for those rewards, it looks like this is Gearbox's doing. By drip-feeding the content it seems like it was a decision from Gearbox in an attempt to get more sales because "well everyone else said that having big releases builds more hype than making small changes every single day". June, Summer and 1.0 launch have a singular boss each planned, while the other two have "new bosses" planned. That leads me to believe that June and Summer bosses are already finished but are simply granted time for extra polish, while Fall and Winter do not have any. And artifacts, as fun as they may be, do not require nine months.

>>16407049

Also hidden realms seems finished too, since you would generally expect easter eggs and hidden areas to be something done prior to release. Not something that you half a year in advance and then refuse to do it any time before that. These types of things are always either done when you get the idea to make something cool in the middle of the creation for something else or done when everything is done and you simply want to add something fun like a joke or a secret challenge.

>>16407077

acquire proficiency

>>16407077

>a single Blazing Imp Overlord

at least it's not

FOUR

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STONE TITANS

Brainstalks are underpowered compared to bandolier.

They should have either swap quality or have brainstalks buff duration longer.

>have 1 bandolier

>killing anything from a group of trash has high odds of dropping one refresh, only goes up the more of them you find (easy due to it being a green item)

>have brainstalks

>need to kill an elite for whopping 3 (+2 per stack) seconds of no cooldowns

>>16407429

Bandolier requires you to pick it from the ground where it died before it expires, brainstalks have their effect instantly regardless of where you are.

>>16407486

>mercenary

Gee, I wonder why a melee class would have more use out of an item that requires them to be in melee range than one that doesn't. It's a complete mystery.

>>16407475

Brainstalks cannot be shared with the team, do not refresh cooldowns and instead put them to around 20% their normal downtime, require you to kill enemies that by default have inflated health, and having to pick up bandolier drops is a non-issue when it means you can deliberately burn your other abilities before grabbing it, including skating over it with a movement ability. The single leg up brainstalks have is that they are predictable, but the game spawns so many enemies that bandolier’s chance stops mattering later on, and elites only become more bloated. They only start showing their strength when you stack backup magazines, and even then, it’s an extremely underwhelming red.

It may just be a side effect of the game not having any real single-target focused characters outside of Artificer, arguably. If Sniper plays anything like he did in ror1, he’ll get far more mileage out of it than anyone else. Until then, it’s printer fodder.

>>16407515

I mean, if you have enough attack speed, it's gonna be great on people like commando, huntress, merc and bandit. Fuck waiting for bandit until june holy shit

>>16407528

The “roadmap” reeks of marketing. I’m sad to see this, but with how sloppy the game had started out, I can’t say I am surprised.

>>16407515

>everyone but artificer and the fat fuck engineer have a mobility skill

>huntress kills some trash with glaive, box drops, blink to pick it up, blink out, kill more trash/control the area with R

>commando can GOMBAD ROLL ;DDD into it and do more of nothing special

>MUL-T can drive-by to grab it get a refresh and drive away

>engineer can just go to his bustling turrets to pick up his free refresh of all skills if he needs it.

>Mercenary just mashes R because boxes are picked up during eviscerate

>you can ignore the box for a few seconds until you actually need it

>With enough movement speed you can scoop the box and have it follow you until you decide you want cooldowns refreshed

meanwhile with brainstalks you need to kill a dangerous enemy with bloated health pool to get 3 seconds of no cooldowns.

>>16407572

>to get 3 seconds of no cooldowns.

That logically would've been useful to kill said enemy.

>>16407572

>>16407429

Brainstalks are good for skills that have short animation times so you can get a few seconds of button mashing out of them. It's much more consistent than the bandolier since it doesn't rely on drop chance and proximity to the kill zone. It's great for shit like artificer so she can spam fire bolts and nova spheres without needing to fuck around in close range. Also bandoliers only reset one charge on shit with multiple charges so it's not great for artificer's bolts or stacked backup magazines. Bandolier is better for skills with longer cooldowns, but brainstalks are better for raw spam.

>>16407572

>>MUL-T can drive-by to grab it get a refresh and drive away

It's called a drive-by, not a drive-thru.

>>16407669

assured red items if you can survive

>>16407763

yeah a few more rejuvenation racks would help him out

Get in here.

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>>16409259

I've always been curious how n'kuhana's played out on classes besides Engineer. I've consistently been able to get it plus no less than 3 stacks of fungus almost every time I play Engineer which leads to games where it becomes easymode on monsoon and I get cocky and promptly beaned for 2000 damage by a blazing brass contraption 16 waves in.

Glass Huntress was pretty fun to play as. Fucking Overloading Greater Wisps though. I still can't believe it instakilled me and then instakilled me again because it stuck a bomb on me despite the Dio's immunity and it detonated while I was running away.

So what the fuck triggers the Glorious Battle achievement? It says "charge a teleporter with 10% health" but what part of the charging is that actually? Is it when you kill the boss? when the teleporter hits 100%? when you hit the teleporter for the 2nd time and it converts your money into xp? or when it actually warps you out?

>>16407669

>filename

It's Keyman the hand of Judgment.

Decent manga

>>16410338

>i-it was intentional!

dr necro was a qt

>>16410319

Fall damage or just jumping off the edge of the map is a good way to drop yourself to 1 life and you need to be below 10% when it reaches 100%.

>>16410358

Or when you start the charging, can't remember. Either way, just jump off a cliff.

>>16410319

When it reaches 100%.

Get a boss to low health, wait for the teleporter to charge to 99%, then let the enemies/boss hit you until you're below 10% health, finish off boss, challenge completed.

>>16407528

>I mean, if you have enough attack speed, it's gonna be great on people like commando, huntress, merc and bandit. Fuck waiting for bandit until june holy shit

huntress can get like 4 instances of her arrow AoE every time brainstalks procs for her which isn't too bad especially when you get bunched up elites in later levels

>>16406942

see y'all in fucking June, I guess.

>>16411492

>drizzle

I hope you have a good excuse anon

>>16411558

I was trying to unlock gesture of the downed. But the game is being a piece of shit and keeps sending me to distant roost.

>>16411569

man do I know that feeling

I stopped counting at 20 runs without a chance to get that unlock

Last time I got the plains after my first pass it's was 19 maps in (I know because I unlocked the clover just as I finished the tele) and was already well past the point of "effortlessly and automatically slaughter everything in sight" so there was no hope of the crabs lasting long enough to be chased off of the edge

good luck to you, hopefully you get it before they nerf it

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>>16413098

No, Commando is just shit.

>>16413098

You're not shit, you just picked a shit class to main. Commando's basic attack is 2x90% (180%) which is better than Huntress if you don't take accuracy into account. However, there's one big, undocumented flaw with Commando.

HIS DAMAGE GETS LOWERED THE FURTHER AWAY YOU ARE FROM THE TARGET

Meaning he's a mid-long range that gets penalized for being at a mid-long range. And again, that's not taking accuracy into account. The only other class that gets this damage penalty is MUL-T when he tries to shoot nailgun at a distance. But that's justified since MUL-T has a big 600% long range weapon.

>>16413437

Huntress is easily competitive for the top spot. Huntress, Mercenary, and Engineer are the three best and they all work extremely differently so it's hard to say which of the three is number 1. If you are doing good with commando it's probably just luck. Get good items on anyone and you'll have a good game.

>>16413376

Less because Rebar is a thing, and more because his primary fire shoots 6-8 times in the same span, so where Commando is 180%, MUL-T is around 400% equivalent. He suffers on procs and small targets though, and generally isn't that much better than commando.

>>16413992

I decided to give MUL-T another try, knowing that proc on-hit items are multiplied by hit damage, so his rebar procs items at 600% their normal effect (and his nailgun only hits for 60%, 40% of the time). As it turns out in spite of this, the nailgun still does WAAAY more proc damage than the rebar overall. I'm not really sure why mechanically, but you can easily see the difference when a boss's HP melts.

I managed to get a pretty good item build with stickies and all the other shit and pretty much "Win the game" on monsoon as MUL-T. I still feel he's one of the worst characters though, the Rebar still sucks, he really suffers for lack of mobility, and basically other characters just do much better.

>>16414197

I'd say it's probably chain procs. Let's say your 60% nailgun procs a stack of 3 Runald's bands. That's 60% of 500%= 300% damage. Now those runald's bands proc a stack of 3 ATG missiles, now you have 300% of 900%=2700%. Now if those ATG missiles proc something else, that original 60% or 600% doesn't really matter anymore. What matters is getting a ton of procs as quickly as you can so that you increase your chances of chaining out with exploding percentages.

>>16414205

MUL-T does it better, and MUL-T is also shit. When you git gud at anyone else you'll understand how horrible the Commando is.

>>16414205

>only one pair of goggles

this meme needs fixing

>>16411864

>I hope that the upcoming patches don't add more retarded challenges

next patch is in June.