09f3f0 No.16377647
Good morning fellow faggots. I wanted to share with you what it looks when sony bans a user for the non-existent crime of (((hate speech))) on the playstation network.
I was recently banned for speaking out against the forced invasion of subhumans into the West and I received a one week ban for it. sony is now moving to silence any criticism of the marxist agenda by people that do not want to see their community turned into the third world. I am not surprised by this ban at all and I have in fact been expecting this so that I could share with my fellow anons what happens on this platform when marxists are in charge of regulating your speech.
As you can see in the pic, ALL of the games that are digital downloads have had their licenses removed and are no longer playable. However, if you have a game on disc, it is still functional. Considering that (((hate speech))) is not an actual thing (or crime) in burgerland, their actions might be in violation of US law and sony could be placing themselves in a liable position. Not that I care or wish to even waste time researching such things for vydia but it is a possibility. I base this theory on the fact that the locked games in question were paid for and the user (myself) is being denied access to them based purely on political reasons. Imagine if you owned a car and the car manufacture said that they do not agree with your political viewpoints and plan on "disabling" your vehicle for a week because of your political opinions. Clearly that would be in violation of the law; this most likely is as well.
To our friends at /leftypol/, keep in mind this could be used against you as well. So, you feel like speaking out against israels forced occupation of gaza? It might be considered (((hate speech))) by sony. You want to speak out about police misconduct government corruption? It might be considered (((hate speech))) by sony.
If you guys want to continue to support this type of thought crime police, then by all means buy a ps5 or the next xbox! After all, the FF7 remake is more important than your right to self-expression. In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy my many emulators with my game library that is in the thousands. I will also be going back to playing strictly PC games in the future since this is clearly the future of game consoles.
ef6ee3 No.16377659
>>16377647
Man, I miss the days where you could go to the vidya shop, buy the vidya, and then take it home with you.
>I was recently banned for speaking out against the forced invasion of subhumans into the West and I received a one week ban for it.
How did that come about? Was this on voice?
5c19a4 No.16377661
>Pay for games
>can't access them anymore
96e833 No.16377664
>>16377647
Jokes on Soy-knee, I pirate all of their games.
6250ce No.16377666
You should have known better.
e57da4 No.16377672
>community post
does that mean you called someone a nigger in a pm or that you shitpost on Soyny forums.
e4269e No.16377673
>>16377647
>their actions might be in violation of US law and sony could be placing themselves in a liable position.
Here's where the jew gets you. (((Corporations))) are allowed to do whatever they want, and are allowed to ban your account for whatever reason they want. It's the same as at will employment. They are under no duty to follow the laws on hatespeech not being a thing.
It's bullshit but it's there.
09f3f0 No.16377681
>>16377659
it was text, in a forum. now deleted. i tried to get it back so I could post it here for further proof but its gone
>>16377664
i used to do that a lot but I wanted to support devs. but if devs dont speak out about these polices, then ill just go back to stealing their games. i've pirated a lot of sony movies over the years anyway, kek
>>16377666
i did know better. i did this on purpose so I could share it with others, hopefully others that planed on buying a ps5.
>>16377672
i was stating statistics on "migrant" crime
>>16377673
thats where your most likely wrong. banning speech, yes they can do that. banning access to a paid product; that seems illegal to me and most likely in violation in the interstate commerce clause or something. like i said, i dont care enough to research it but it is most likely in violation of the law. I would not be surprised if we see sony, or some other company getting a class action over this type of behavior some day.
e414dc No.16377691
America is a great land for hosting libertarian sites like 8chan, due to its free speech jurisprudence being objectively the freest of any country out there. Particularly in how America legally protects "hate speech" whereas other western nations have banned it outright.
That said, living in a free land doesn't stop people from being super authoritarian. It must be noted that international American companies (like Steam or Twitch) have consistently been the worst protectors of free speech. Widely known for their terrible track record of banning "hate speech" off their platforms. And all because they want to go international and get foreign Europeaners' money, they're willing to shred their First Amendment rights in order to appeal to the censorship loving regimes in Europe, like the UK or Germany.
And now, Sony's HQ is located in America's San Francisco. And starting to act like them too.
09f3f0 No.16377694
>>16377691
>they're willing to shred their First Amendment rights in order to appeal to the censorship loving regimes in Europe, like the UK or Germany.
you took the words out of my mouth. well said
ae6f70 No.16377696
wow, i can’t believe they locked all your games. im so glad i dont own a playstation
10d30e No.16377698
why would you buy a console just to play bloodborne?
8f1002 No.16377703
>using (((Sony's))) "services"
Woah, OP, I wonder how did this atrocity happen?
d45f36 No.16377710
>>16377698
To play Bloodborne, I assume?
d0e696 No.16377716
>>16377681
>thats where your most likely wrong. banning speech, yes they can do that. banning access to a paid product
As long as it's in the EULA, they can revoke it because you bought a license to play the game. You are not even entitled to possess a copy of the binaries. Welcome to the shitshow that is commercial software.
511d2b No.16377717
>>16377647
>Sign up for a private service offering on-line games
>The contract states "don't say nigger or we ban you"
>scream nigger
>get banned
Law and free speech has nothing to do with it, it's a private service and you've signed a contract with a code of conduct when you signed up for it.
It's your fault for signing up to those rules in the first place.
>you feel like speaking out against israels forced occupation of gaza?
On a Sony Playstation forum?
Man I don't even want to try and defend this shit, but you're fucking retarded.
ee5e65 No.16377720
>>16377681
>I wanted to support devs
If you want to support them don't do that on Sony consoles. When you buy anything on Sony consoles you tell the devs too that they have no choice but to bend over to Sony because in the end you going to pay for those games.
That said, you're a moron if it took you so long to realize that Sony is one of the most cancerous companies in existence which should be completely boycotted, I mean it's so bad you were likely buying their online sub too. This is why they moved to USA, because America and many other wester countries are full of retards who let themselves to be abused and they even pay for it, this is why I have zero doubts that PS5 will be a success, moreover there will be retards who will buy it on this very board too and I'm not just talking about redditors or newfags.
Vita death was just a warning and you can blame no one but yourself for what is happening because you did absolutely nothing to prevent it. Now we all have to suffer.
631603 No.16377743
>>16377717
>It's your fault for signing up to those rules in the first place.
Laws have no power when a judge (((interprets))) them differently, and are magicked into creation with a little bit of creative thought. If you try to play by the literal words on the paper, you will be taken advantage of at every turn.
09f3f0 No.16377754
>>16377716
not true. you cant "sign your rights away." there are laws protecting consumers (and employees, arrested citizens, etc.) against that kind of stuff. taking away access to a product that was paid for based on political opinions is most likely illegal in the US. i feel pretty confident about that, although i clearly have no proof to back it up. if you feel like researching, please do, i would like to know just as much as you. but user agreements are not always binding
>>16377717
didnt say nigger, i spoke about migrant crime statistics. if you read my post, you would know that. your putting words in my mouth that I did not say…. then you call someone retarded. kek my man, filtered.
>>16377720
>If you want to support them don't do that on Sony consoles. When you buy anything on Sony consoles you tell the devs too that they have no choice but to bend over to Sony because in the end you going to pay for those games.
very true.
>That said, you're a moron if it took you so long to realize that Sony is one of the most cancerous companies in existence which should be completely boycotted
like i said in my post, i have been expecting this. I wanted more proof for others to see that this company is cancerous. i have been talking about the invasion on PSN for months now trying to get banned and it finally worked. i never even said anything remotely "racist" during these conversations. This was meant as a warning, not a blogpost
>>16377726
as I stated to the anon above, you cant sign your rights away. they can regulate speech but this is probably in violation of the law. i have no proof though and neither do you, so agree to disagree. or, start researching consumer protection laws and come back here letting us know if such an agreement would be binding in the event that a company tries to do more than regulate speech, such as the case here.
85b2af No.16377757
Truly too extreme for 4chan.
19082d No.16377758
>>16377726
>defending censorship
Go back to reddit with the rest of the corporate and government bootlickers.
09f3f0 No.16377762
>>16377757
it actually was. my thread got deleted immediately.
b5fd9c No.16377765
>>16377754
>EULA: Dont do this please. Sign here if you agree.
<you: be retarded
<you get banned
<reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Fucking cuckchan I swear. Why the fuck did you play the game if you wanted to act like a kid anyway? Go cry your crocodile tears over at reddit or something.
09f3f0 No.16377768
>>16377761
im currently studying to take the LSAT and plan on going to law school. yes, you CANT sign your rights away, there are legal protections for simple folk like yourself that dont know any better; and no, I am not talking specifically about speech regulation on a platform.
b5fd9c No.16377771
>>16377770
>muh jooos
Oh no. It's retarded.
ae6f70 No.16377773
>>16377765
>>16377767
so you guys support censorship then?
ae6f70 No.16377778
>>16377774
nice deflection
da34fc No.16377791
>>16377647
So you posted about some politic bullshit that has nothing to do with videogames, that (((they))) didn't like and got rightfully banned? Maybe try not being retarded next time.
09f3f0 No.16377795
>>16377791
its a shame more Westerners dont have the guts to stand up for themselves, like yourself.
10d30e No.16377799
>>16377779
>>16377780
nice try now check this out mein neggers
bf026c No.16377807
b5fd9c No.16377818
>>16377804
Nah, just edgy 16 year olds that seek validation by picking up dead extremist ideologies
da34fc No.16377820
>>16377795
It's not so much about standing up for yourself, it's about where you do it, why would you complain about some racial bullshit on Snoy forums of all places? You're bringing your own politics into some game forum, that you know is controlled by a super liberal leaning corporation and somehow you didn't expect to get fucked?
You're dumb as bricks, enjoy your no gaymes faggot.
0a171f No.16377821
>>16377647
>not cfw your ps4
>not pirating good games free
>u bought them instead
You deserve to be bullied
02b64b No.16377826
>>16377821
lol, who said i was bullied? although you are right, given CY
02b64b No.16377829
>>16377820
>it's about where you do it, why would you complain about some racial bullshit on sony forums of all places?
again, read the post, this time try to comprehend it. I have been doing this on purpose to get banned. i wanted to test their new speech polices and see the results. here are the results. if you choose to support this company, then the same thing could happen to you. it was meant as a warning, take it or leave it my man
908574 No.16377832
OP is an edgy faggot, but locking access of games that he paid for because he hates the Jews is just criminal.
6a9644 No.16377837
>>16377743
There are no laws on a private community forum other than the owner's guidelines. OP violated those guidelines and got b&. The point is to not go wherever you see guidelines that you don't accept.
Sony owns those boards and they can decide what is ok or not ok to post on them, OP was just too retarded to notice and thought he could talk about migrants or jews on them as if he was on pol.
>>16377813
>You made me notice how retarded have I been for expecting any different!
>Filtered!
Not even cuckchan, this is blue checkmark tier behaviour, lol.
d6a502 No.16377840
No they aren't liable because there is a 'good samaritan' law that overrides the constitutional right to free speech. Section C: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230
Don't good Samaritans stop to help people, I don't remember it being about silencing or attacking others for their beliefs.
908574 No.16377842
>>16377647
Did you pay for any of the locked out games? If so then you should laywer up.
ae6f70 No.16377843
>>16377836
you will never be White
02b64b No.16377844
>>16377842
paid for all of them. nice to see an anon with some common sense.
d6a502 No.16377846
>>16377842
They are legally allowed to do this, which is why they do. First off when you buy your games you are only paying for a temporary license and the agreement you sign says they can revoke that license at any time for any reason. Sony has always had unethical business practices. Even Steam only suspends your community posting privileges they never actually prevent you from accessing a game unless you cheat and even then they only ban you from multiplayer services. Sony aren't your parents, they have no right to take away the property of their customer just because they don't like what they say. They are completely out of order here and should be boycotted. It's not just that but if you don't log into your sony account for 3-4 months they completely delete it and all your purchases.
908574 No.16377849
>>16377846
Wait, seriously? That's fucked up.
908574 No.16377852
>>16377844
Well it's legal, but unethical as fuck. I'm unsure what to tell you other than to sell your PS4 and your games.
d6a502 No.16377855
>>16377849
If it wasn't for their software license/terms and conditions they would actually be breaking the law and the good Samaritan protections wouldn't even cover them because you are only protected for removing 'hate speech' not for removing people's access to your games.
d6a502 No.16377859
>>16377851
Really cause I'm boycotting Sony, not buying anything they make from now on. Whether it's anime games or consoles. I don't feel like it's a great loss to me personally because now they censor the shit out of everything so it's going to suck anyway. They are a former shell of themselves and don't deserve anyone's money.
3b57ba No.16377861
>>16377821
>cfw your ps4
> pirating good games free
How do? I don't want to give these cocksuckers money anymore.
840fc8 No.16377862
>>16377859
>banned by cakejew
02b64b No.16377863
>>16377852
again, i agree to disagree regarding legality (nobody has posted proof yet either, myself included) but the legality of it is not my immediate concern. after all, its not like its my house or something, it just vydia. i just wanted to spread the word and share further proof of sony's business practices
da34fc No.16377864
>>16377829
Everyone already knew about this you silly sissy, you didn't have to test shit, it was plenty obvious with the massive censorship going on and the move to San Fran, again, enjoy your time-out you dumb homo.
908574 No.16377867
>>16377855
Any records of Microsoft or Nintendo doing the same thing? Either way this is a great argument for avoiding Sony games in the future.
d6a502 No.16377869
>>16377768
Under what law?
First off are you are of this: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230 Section C. You are not allowed to sue if someone digitally infringes on your right to free speech.
02b64b No.16377870
>>16377864
indeed, but here is more proof. one week ban to provide proof of sony's behavior? worth it
de23b1 No.16377875
>>16377861
You need a console that's at or below 5.07. That gives you access to the games most people would play a ps4 for.
908574 No.16377876
>>16377863
No, fuck that. You spent tons of money on their platform. You're entitled to a refund if the ban is permanent, even if you are a faggot. Although it seems the good samaritan law fucked you over, so all you can do is really sell the shit you have and move over to another platform.
02b64b No.16377879
>>16377876
ban is temp: one week. besides, im bored of it anyway, there really arnt any good games. I have a psvr, but the novelty is wearing off and I will prob sell it. I also make $60k a year and my cost of living is very low so the investment means nothing to me. im happy to fall on my own sword in this instance if it means further exposing this company
a1b39e No.16377880
>>16377647
All that effort they put into that faggotry and I bet they've done nothing but put a bandaid on security issues.
da34fc No.16377886
>>16377870
It's only worth it because you can't play Snoy's shit games anymore, whatever you think you were going to accomplish was useless, you didn't prove anything new or unknown, you're a dumb fag.
02b64b No.16377891
3b57ba No.16377900
>>16377875
>am at 6.51
Fuck. I should've disabled this auto-update crap from the start.
Is there a chance they'll crack more recent FWs eventually?
02b64b No.16377912
interesting mods anchored this thread. I wonder if they are getting kickbacks from sony?
fedb66 No.16377924
>>16377900
Eventually, yes. The period you'll be waiting is highly variable. Rumors say that there are newer exploits up to 5.55 that they're holding onto at the moment but no concrete details.
0a171f No.16377928
>>16377900
I wouldnt hold my breath, ps4 5.05/5.07 was cracked in may about a year ago, but then again I read some news about some progress on 6.5 so ur best bet is to disable updates on your ps4 and shove ur ps4 in a closet and wait it out which is what i did.
75c123 No.16378060
>>16377912
That would be less sad than them doing it for free.
6a9644 No.16378115
>>16377846
>if you don't log into your sony account for 3-4 months they completely delete it and all your purchases.
This can't be true, no fucking way.
09f3f0 No.16378123
>>16378060
countdown till mods archive and memory hole in 3… 2..
7b21ac No.16378133
>>16377786
What's Zoe Quinn doing in that poor lad's room?
68ca95 No.16378171
>>16377647
>Accounting+
>All that low-effort VR shit
>I am the Banham
Honestly, I'd have made it a permaban of your account just on principle. You obviously don't value your money very much, so it shouldn't bother you to lose a bit more of it trying to "re-acquire" the limited, non-transferable, non-binding, non-consentual, provisional licenses for those games.
870019 No.16378205
>>16378171
haha finally someone roasted me on my game selections. i was waiting for that and it never happened. in my defense, the psvr library is seriously lacking quality content. but yeah, those games suck. another reason not to invest in sony (especially the psvr)
306832 No.16378475
>>16377837
But that’s why you ban them from the forum not lock their entire account and ban them from playing games they paid money for.
3b57ba No.16378547
>>16377928
>>16377924
Thanks, lads. Already disabled it, so now it's just a matter of playing the waiting game and hope for the best.
d0e696 No.16378914
>>16377754
>not true. you cant "sign your rights away."
It's not the same thing. When you buy software such as a game, you are buying a license to use that software. You don't "own" anything. It's less like a product that you own and more like a contract that you sign. If you break the terms of the contract, it is void and you no longer have the legal right to use the software, and theoretically you could be charged for using it although that almost never happens.
I think civil rights protections might apply to the customer in this case, because if I remember right the clause reads like "race, sex, sexual orientation, creed" and I cannot remember if political beliefs are included. However it's difficult to prove that the publisher did it for purely political reasons in most cases. I think we'd have to wait until the right case comes along where there is sufficient proof of malicious intent on the publisher's part and the victim has a competent lawyer.
967598 No.16381620
>>16378914
>license, not purchase
A trademark can be lost due to "becoming generic", basically due to public stupidity. If everyone thinks of it as "purchasing a product", can the "licensing" bullshit stand? But maybe that argument died with physical releases.
78a364 No.16384497
>>16377773
>so you guys support censorship then?
>>16377771
>>16377818
(((he))) sure is
b2ded1 No.16390502