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We better be able to get some sort of beacon or mark for the Wolf, I've fought that little shit ten times and I either get basic mods or nothing.

>Doing the Sortie

>Extreme Cold Excavation this time

>Playing Octavia for the first time in a while, guess I don't have much duration on her, but it mostly worked for this except

>Enemies stopped spawning entirely around my current excavator

>Put down a mallet and go to trigger the next one to see what happens

>Due to the long tileset and the movement inhibiting debuff it takes all 24 seconds of my Mallet's duration to get there.

>The SECOND the second excavator drops the first one starts rapidly taking damage before getting destroyed.

It's as if spawning the second excavator also spawns the missing enemies. Fucking Canucks.

>Is there a good one hand SMG secondary that is not a kitgun?

Pyrana doesn't seem like an SMG but it's automatic, and when Pyrana Prime summons a second one it still counts as a single pistol for the purposes of the pistol+glaive stance. Knell is fully automatic now. Other anon said Hystrix and Stubba, I can vouch for those. Azima can be good enough if modded properly and it really goes up a few tiers with the right riven, moreso than most guns.

If you don't mind beams, I like Nukor, Cycron, and Embolist (with mandatory range mod) when I'm using Orvius with Condition Overload.

>>16355274

I checked the wiki and asked around, looks like there aren't any one handed SMGs, I got Pyranha Prime for pocket shotgun which is also automatic but I wanted something different, if only the Bolto family was automatic at least or there were single Stiletto or Somati around, Furis is too gimicky and kitguns look hideous.

>>16355453

what about the stubba?

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Stubba

>>16355453

I figured that's what you wanted which I why I recommended the Stubba, even the wiki says it's a "grineer uzi", but it's also fugly. As far as a proper SMG-looking gun like the Baza goes for secondaries your research is correct; it doesn't exist.

>>16355474

Well, I could use the stubba, may be ugly but not as ugly as a rattleguts with moderately high fire rate.

>>16355453

>looks like there aren't any one handed SMGs

I just listed several SMGs though

>>16355453

Viper could be considered as a SMG. It's total shit though.

>>16355507

I am checking them.

>>16355512

Only Viper Wraith would work and it has a tiny magazine.

>>16355513

If you absolutely must have a single SMG, the viper wraith with an augment and a riven will at least give you a fun gun with a fair magazine size and handling in lower level missions that you can goof off with. I also recommend rolling for fun stats like punchthrough along with damage since you won't be getting the gun very far into endgame anyway, just focus on making it fun for everything else.

>>16355195

>The Lotus will no longer be as purple

When will Ordis-senpai replace her entirely?

What has changed since Melee 2.0?

>>16355513

there is an augment that gives it more ammo. also rivens are dirt cheap. i use mine with blast for cheap cc.

>>16356257

I typically build her balanced, as every stat is really beneficial for her. For your song either make it slow enough that you can easily hit the beats or fast enough that you can spam and easily get your buffs. Other than that, just pop out your 1, hit your 3 and stay invisible, and then put your 4 near your 1 to make it stupid strong and give more range.

>>16355712

Now melee is a broken mess.

>>16355712

Quick attack is gone, you go straight to the stance combos when you hit your melee key. Once you do a melee attack you're in "melee mode" and once you hit F or aim with right click you're back to your gun. Blocking is automatic as long as you're facing the incoming attack and it would have hit you. Channeling is toggle on/off with middle click.

>>16356317

In my case is just aesthetics.

>>16355195

How is Warframe doing?

I was there since closed beta when you we have just 5 frames. I post lot ideas on their forums and some eventualy made it to game. I am not going back but enjoyed to try diferent builds.

>>16356833

This is what i don't like on Warframe. They change working system and fuck it and than you are forced to play their fucked version. Sounds like melee is totaly diferent now. What a hacks.

>>16356889

Melee is better imo. They admitted they were trying to make it closer to Devil May Cry but the bastards stopped short of copying it directly.

Not taking primary or secondary gives you 360 blocking.

>>16356904

thanks for letting me know.

>>16356889

Nothing was lost except one sparring weapon stance's quick attack, everything is still there. Quick attacks were two moves out of the stance combos anyway, so they're preserved. You can effectively use all of your available melee options without having to go through "hold F to swap to melee only, hold F again to go back." You use what you want by attacking with it, no inbetween unless youre swapping between primary and secondary guns.

>excavation arbitration

>group wants to go to five rounds (ten excavators)

>group keeps trying to run both excavators at the same time, then ignoring one and letting it get blown up

>three destroyed excavators later, make it to 7 cleared

>die

>group fails to defend the excavator

>go to leave, get told I will retain all rewards but be disconnected from the group

>leave

>get absolutely fucking nothing

I don't understand.

>>16355195

>shitframe

>niggerframe

>cockframe

>bitchframe

Strun wraith worth using?

>>16358222

It’s kinda like the primary version of the akbronco prime. It’s serviceable, but more of a “for shits and giggles” weapon. It can reach 100% status, and has a 5/5 riven disposition, so it has a lot of fun potential and can strip armor nicely. It can also send enemies fucking flying.

I am loving the Tatsu, is it just me or it charges attacks very fast? the only downside I see is the usual stance forced movement and limited moveset, very noticeable first swing wind-up.

>>16358249

Tatsu's only real downside at the moment is that its ground finishers still rotate far enough left that you miss most of them. Stances with special move charge attacks instead of just one big swing are the best. Gaia's Tragedy does several quick uppercuts and then a huge flurry of punches for its consecutive charge attacks.

>>16358312

So it wasn't just me, the Tatsu's finishers almost never hit which is a pain when you use Garuda, I have to say Nova will be my #1 but I think Garuda is #2 now, I just need to make a tennogen skin and get lucky.

>>16358312

Anon, the Tatsu is the daikatana. Are you thinking of the Korrudo?

>>16358327

No, I mentioned Gaia's Tragedy as another example of a stance with very useful charge attacks. Wise Razor's charge attacks even without the Tatsu passive are nice.

>>16356287

anon asked what changed

>>16356287

>>16356317

>>16356833

I meant if whether or not the game as a whole changed for the better or worse since melee 2.0. I hated it.

>>16358489

Ah, sorry I misunderstood.

>>16358758

Well what did you hate about it? Cause a lot has changed.

>>16358758

how so? the insta-swap from gun to melee is a huge fucking improvement., so many more melee ill use now cause of this.

Has DE said whether they'll make the challenge pool for the next nightwave actual challenges, like day trader or the 1hr survival ones in the beginning, instead of "do X mission type Y times"?

The goyim will buy plat anyways, so they probably don't care

Any robotic weapon that doesn't suck?

>cuntframe

>slutframe

>cumframe

>fagframe

is garuda worth using? also how long does nightwave event last?

>>16361604

So far she is quite good for me but what would you want to see in a frame to catch your attention? she is very durable.

>>16361600

All the companions do absolute ass for damage anyway, so you’re better off sticking with the two laser beam weapons from artax and fortuna for some additional ice procs to lightly CC and add to any CO damage if you’re using melee.

>>16361604

She’s okay. I don’t think she’ll blow your mind, but she can technically scale infinitely and deal with extremely armored enemies because she absorbs damage and can get guaranteed slash procs off said damage. She just needs a bit of wind up to get her damage going, but otherwise she’s pretty fun and fairly durable.

>>16361701

DE stupid LoS has to be exact. Like you better be able to drive a semi to your target or else you will get obstructed. Its dumb as fuck, I usually jump in the air and spam the ability button. Would probably work for any skill now cause they removed the "cannot use it air" limit on everything.

>>16361713

The funny thing is, apparently the target is obstructed by a knee high railing or fence, sometimes its in MY end.

>>16361701

First doorway, second guardrail, third top of stairway, fourth cant tell but probably because that ramp the bombard is on is up higher than you and you'd "hit" the edge. You need unobstructed space a couple feet taller than you for the pounce to work. It's drawing a line from your feet to the target and sliding a taller model of you from start to finish. If it collides with anything it won't do it.

>>16361848

Other abilities do just fine, I feel cheated.

>>16361900

Most other abilities that move you straight to a target are instant teleports, this is a jump with actual travel time.

>>16361938

Still, I have been in wierder angles and still able to connect both Dread and Altar but these times when it would make sense with the jump it fails.

>melee is fucked and I have to go back to spamming E rather than left click

it's fucking painful and uncomfortable

>for some reason my hands are being weird and I can't play properly

What the fuck is happening to me and this game? I was fine prior to launching the game.

Also anyone want to buy a sancti tigris for an amount of platinum? No one is fucking buying mine.

What's this big blue circle radius on the minimap on the ice plains place?

Sage for double post, this game has changed too much and I'm confused.

>>16365861

That is fucking helpful anon, now my finger doesn't have to regain skeletal tear again.

>>16365839

Picture?

>Hildryn has some sort of boost tackle as her roll

>you can't fucking use it to damage/make enemies fall over

WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE CUSTOM ROLL THEN

I WANNA BULLY THESE NERDS BY TACKLING THEM

also fuck whoever in DE's audio department removed the loud thud that happened when you slide-kicked an enemy, that guy is the worst

>>16365910

Cosmetic only, I assume they were planning on doing something with it, I just began leveling her up, is OK but she needs a proper ironman hulkbuster skin, it will take me some time to get the grasp on how to properly paint one and test my lick in tennogen.

>>16365915

Looks like some kind of objective but can't remember what the blue one does maybe it has to do with having taken the base?

>>16365915

Pretty sure it means you capped that base and can accept bounties from there now.

>>16358238

This. A fun gun, but not something you take to sorties unless you got a god riven.

>>16365889

>>16365861

I bind mine to mouse scroll down. Super comfy for me but I guess it depends on what your mouse scroll wheel feels like.

>>16366292

Same but mouse up. It's very comfy playing Survival one-handed using Tempo Royale's block combo for movement.

Does anyone have blazing step? Is it worth it? I'm losing my mind doing ESO for the past week and a half straight with nothing

>>16371840

It's about as noticeable as the bullet jump effects mods. Don't burn yourself out over it.

>>16356317

They look like shit.

>>16372221

>by the person who got booted from DE 2 years ago for bitch fitting about not having his way with other people's work

What's this about? It sounds interesting.

>>16372221

>Shitsniffer

I get you don't like being out-DPS'd but namecalling is just petty. Also women can't be bara.

>>16372221

Type like a human being anon, you're just shitting out half-baked jargon.

>muscle woman has no reason to be beefy

>design by someone who I don't like

>I want them to make totally separate animations for everyone across all movements

>I am upset that we don't get the old kit for Whisp

>It would be way better if they took their time instead of teasing too early and having to rush because of it

Not everything needs a pants-shitting rant

>>16372418

Shitsniffer anon has been around for a while. He's eternally assblasted by Mesa and Mesafags to the point that he made a very warped interpretation of one of her animations as an insult. It's been pointed out to him how stupidly autistic he is, but he's quite firm in his autistic rage so I usually just let him be.

btw I'm a Valkyrfag and don't give a shit about Mesa; I just find this anon mildly annoying.

>want to get the plex plix? pistol

>in order to get it you need bounties from solaris vex

>in order to get solaris vex you need united vex or whatever at max rank

Oh fucking k then, way to make this game even more frustrating.

>cant even get fucking training debt bonds, keep getting other shit

>>16374680

Don't do bounties for anything. Do conservation for standing and buy debt bonds(you'll need fishing/mining for some of these) from ticker for advancement. It's the only way to keep sane in fortuna.

>>16355195

how the fuck do I do the thermal anal fracture on the god damn plains of icedolon solo?

>>16374795

Just became aware of that shortly before your post, still thanks because now I know NEVER to fucking do those shitty missions again. Jesus they suck.

>kill x amount of y enemy

>doesn't spawn in until the last 30 seconds

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>16374833

Whats your highest level and do you have a limbo? Because I just limbo the shit out of open world missions. Impossible otherwise.

>>16372221

>Hildryn

>fat

What?

>>16374878

>Creator Mode on will revert holo-lotus to lotus, reduce a bunch of pop-up transmissions and shut the face-plates of everyone in Orb Vallis after Old Mate

>There's a "Get this gay shit out of here" toggle now

Now if only they'd give Equinox a bigger chest and ass I'd have my short wishlist done

>>16374943

Equinox Prime looks more masculine/feminine tham the base

>>16374837

Yeah I'm MR 18 and I have Limbo/Prime so it shouldn't be a problem but this shit is very time consuming and it'd be faster if I could group up but pubs are cancer so better figure out how to do it solo tbh.

>>16375160

Actually Zephyr is better for thermia fractures considering nullies and a lot of rift-proof enemies in that mode.

>>16375160

Open world in general is mostly painful, something about it just doesn't sit right with me. It feels like it's harder for some reason. I can go sit in a survival mission on 30-40 and end up seeing level 50's and that's easier than level 30's in the open world areas.

>>16375173

>rift-proof

why is that a thing

>>16375335

Probably because there’s actual cover in all the tile sets, whereas open world means you’re getting shot from all direction by every enemy in a 30 meter radius at the same time. The open world crap is just so bad and antithetical to every other aspect of warframe. The only good things about it were the ayydolons.

>>16375335

>why is that a thing

Because you keep "exploiting" all things DEScott makes with so much effort (that is, you use the tools the game gives you and find and efficient way to bypass the so-called challenge), don't you see this is meant to be teh dork soulz of shooters?

>>16375343

The open world aspect honestly just feels kinda dumb in some ways.

>you see an enemy across the literal mountain

>he shoots you

>you take damage

>you shoot him

>nothing happens

I'd prefer it if there were something to make me not want to use an amprex and rift guy just so I can actually not die instantly.

>>16375357

I'm still mad about the removal and revamp of the potato-kids abilities. Being Excalibur with nonstop 5 energy a second regen was absolutely fucking hilarious. Now I have to make I'm at 127 right now energy regenerators and that's a pain. I keep meaning to get one of those big bundle ones though. That'd be neat.

>dork soulz of shooters?

I wouldn't go so far to say that though, even with the rift cancelers you could probably easily kill him and make another one. Not to mention it is only one enemy type and using rift guy you're literally invincible.

>>16375441

>I wouldn't go so far to say that though, even with the rift cancelers you could probably easily kill him and make another one. Not to mention it is only one enemy type and using rift guy you're literally invincible.

Jackals, Hyenas, and Raknoids too, they don't cancel the rift but they can hurt you no matter where you are.

>>16375470

My weapons are usually enough to deal with them, my major issue is when I'm defending a point and it starts to take damage despite the bubble and time pause being up which is mildly confusing to say the least. Especially when you have a horde on niggers on your ass.

Is there a way or just something to make the survival timer be in a different area? I keep on and on forgetting about the fucking timer and suffocating.

>>16375671

That's what I am also referring to, that comes from rift-proof enemies.

>>16375441

New spess kids are 100% an upgrade. Having your energy regen be instant instead of waiting for two fucking minutes at the start of a mission more than makes up for the fact you need to reapply it.

>>16375770

For me I have to go find a energy orb and pick it up, which gives me an additional 50 energy over time. I don't get instant regen though. Which is a shame.

>>16374680

>Plex

>Plix?

>Solaris Vex

>United Vex

jfc anon is English not your first language? You sound worse than my dyslexic friend. It's

>Plinx

>Vox Solaris

>Solaris United

I can't bully you too much though since I understood what you were trying to say, but it still triggered my autism.

As the other anon said you don't really want to do bounties for Standing. Conservation with Ivara is a pretty good way to go, but if you're in a position to kill Exploiter orb a bunch of times then the fuckton of resources it drops can be very good for getting all the standing and debt bonds you need.

If not then be sure to spam the first conservation critter, the little bunny-like things that spawn in threes. Unless they changed something that will get you 1200, 1800, or 2400 standing in total each time depending on breed.

Past that once you actually do get access to Vox Solaris they just recently changed Raknoids to drop Toroids. So you'll want to farm for those outside for the most part; Vega/ Temple of Profit being the exception. Gyromag, Atmo, and Repeller Systems can be purchased from Vox Solaris now, but otherwise you can spam the second Profit-Taker Bounty for them. It can be speedrun solo in under five minutes once you know what needs to be done. Hell I still do it when the Nightwave challenge of "Do 8 bounties on Orb Vallis" comes up.

>>16374837

>>16375160

>>16375765

Yeap, have fun with enemies completely ignoring your defensive abilities. I did it with a buddy who was Mesa as Frost. We got through it by virtue of most everything being dead and me laying down overlapping bubbles on the point.

>>16374833

its not worth the effort solo. too much bullshit on DEs end.

>>16375979

I do it wish Zephyr and 80-100 range and Turbulence, stand close to the canister and just mow down everything with decent weapons.

>>16375979

English is my first language I just can't remember all these new worthless factions that offer me nothing.

I thought United Vex was Vox Solaris and Solaris was vex solaris united. I hadn't played the game prior to today for quite a while and the factions are just pointless anyway.

>kitguns

cool

They're changing Arbitrations next week. When someone dies, the arbitration drones will drop pickups like index points. You can take 5 to the spot your teammate died at to revive them. Enemy levels will accelerate faster overall (like normal endless missions, arbitrations were slower) )to compensate for being able to revive each other. New rewards will include archgun rivens and cosmetics.

>>16376577

The main problem with arbitration that I know of are:

>unstoppable 1 shots by some enemies practically requiring an invulnerability frame or other tanky frame

>shield droned enemies invulnerable to all abilities, not just killing abilities

>Shield drones often difficult to spot, follow

>many rewards are not worth the time(i.e every statue is worth less than just taking the pure endo drop, even counting socketing the pure endo drop is only worse by ~100 endo, when you consider the cost of using stars it still ends up worse. The Orta statue is the sole exception, but also had a higher socketing cost)

What would have been interesting is to make shield droned enemies vulnerable to CC but not damage.

Also

>Still just adding rewards rather than making the missions fun to play

>>16376635

The drones are fucking obnoxious. There's only three ways to survive in warframe, CC so things can't kill you, kill things before they can kill you, or be fucking invincible. The drones negate two of those options, so the only frames that ever see use in arbitrations are tanks or frames that can become invisible. And the only reason to play abritrations was the mods, which one you have adaptation kinda become irrelevant. I also liked to play them cause it's some of the only hard content that doesn't take an hour to ramp up, so my tanks can really flex their muscles.

>>16376577

>New rewards will include archgun rivens and cosmetics.

Oh gee DE, very thrilling. Cause archguns are just so fun to use.

Oh and also I've been playing enough warframe to have gotten my goddamn umbral forma already, but the wolf has only spawned four time for me, and of that I only got two parts from him, and they're the same fucking part on top of that.

>>16376700

Hey, you're lucky. I've fought him 12 times and just gotten two parts. A couple times he didn't even drop a damn common mod. I'm waiting for Atlas Prime to use this umbral forma.

>>16376635

Yeah, arbitration really begs the use of Arca Plasmor for the drones. Last time I did arbitrations, Gara's Splinter Storm could hurt them, and as we all should know by now, that skill can get unlimited damage increases. The wiki says Frost & Gara's barriers withstand drone-buffed enemies unlike most powers.

>>16376693

It's true, you need some trick to stay alive. With the changes next week it'll be much more viable to be non-tanks due to the revive feature. The last few times I ran arbitrations, I was mainly Khora with her Accumulating Whipclaw augment, so everything was deleted the moment I saw it. Now she's got the cat sacrifice augment and pilfering strangledome, so she's got no excuse for dying or running out of life support.

>>16375979

Wait Profit Taker 2 actually works for the bounty nightwave? I guess that'd make that particular one so much easier.

>>16376700

>play through relic capture mission

>get the wolf to spawn right as we evac TWICE

fuck everything, otherwise he just gave me two hammer heads and a motor

>>16376693

I actually enjoy the archguns somewhat, still missing Velocitus and Corvas since people won't trade syndicate piece for syndicate piece though, was waiting for fomorian event to happen for Imp Vandal but DE won't do shit about that

>>16376750

The guns themselves aren't the problem, it's the stuff surrounding it

>need to build them from parts only syndicates have

>need both a catalyst and gravimag to use

>time limited ammo pool

>takes a gear slot

>can't melee or use melee abilities while using them

>whole different mod set that needs farming from annoying missions

>>16372629

>valkyrfag

im going to assume you didnt play her before her nerf so ill give you the benifit of the doubt. Before mesa crutch there was valkyr crutch. press 4 and just afk for 2 mins because nothing could touch them. same people bitched and moaned about nullifiers being unfair. restricted to melee basically useless anywhere else. most didnt even bother using warcry for team usage.

>>16372230

mynki was a well known piece of shit before hand. if you ever thought at one point this alt helmet looks like pure trash or something is over designed just spammed with spikes and shit you can directly blame mynki. but as soon as DE started accepting deluxe designs from this one dude he flipped his shit. every other skin they released ranged from decent quality to how the fuck did they think this was okay. Mynki temper tantrum reached a peak over ember deluxe when the other guy finally put his foot down and said no. ignus left and mynki left soon after. That day he announced his leave people were glad he left mods had to do damage control and prune the thread. Funny enough, not sure if it was intentional or not but that same day DE had a devstream and the quality of the assets they showed off skyrocketed.

>>16372418

i sure hope you dont care about damage dealt in a pve game. thank to such a dated XP system the less "work" I have to do the better.

>>16376693

>The drones negate two of those options, so the only frames that ever see use in arbitrations are tanks or frames that can become invisible.

People here called me out for using Octavia in arbitration, BTW it was survival and the other players didn't want to stick together, apparently I was "stealing their kills" or something but it made the overall killing process harder because the spawns were all over the place.

>>16376750

At least you got the least common drop. The motor has a ridiculously low drop chance.

Is it me, or the Wolf is just a fucking damage sponge?

I just got back to playing and fuck me this nigger takes forever to die even when he spawns in a fucking level 9-11 node. How are they expecting the newcomers to cope, I'll never know.

>>16377025

Yeah he can be pretty bad. However if you have valkyr with rage on, you can just faceroll him.

>>16377025

He IS a damage sponge, btw, ironically enough even tho I recommended Garuda he takes more time if you face him solo, he scales with player count, same with his minions so it takes longer to drain his minions for dread heart damage, in a 4 player squad I could easily throw 20M bombs but solo I can barely break 500K.

>>16376750

Yep, just finished that Nightwave that way yesterday.

>>16376759

I just barely started playing before the nerf. I remember working towards getting the mods that would allow my Duration to be long enough. The nerf was bullshit, but even with it I have 1 minute and 15 seconds worth of invulnerability at the lowest energy per second. My biggest gripe was needing Natural Talent or good timing to cast Hysteria before getting killed in some situations which has been entirely negated by the instant melee swap feature.

Actually I'm a lot more salty about Acolyte mods not being allowed on exalted weapons. It goes against everything the game teaches you about modding and nothing in game (IIRC) made it clear. I had a friend tell me before I got my hopes up, but it's such an astoundingly stupid game design choice.

In addition to that I'm also salty that exalted melee's still don't have extra capacity from their stance mods.

Why the fuck is DE so terrified of exalted weapons being OP? A common criticism of Valkyr is that Hysteria is mainly good for not dying since while the claws do great damage they also have pitiful range. Something I can attest to from a lot of experience. No one gives a shit about Wukong's, and Excalibur's doesn't benefit from most of them (technically). Mesa's is already OP and I don't think the few acolyte mods she would benefit from would break Peacemaker.

I got off on a tangent, but I only brought up I'm a Valkyrfag to clarify that I wasn't a Mesafag.

>>16377232

DE just seems to not like anything "OP" because people would "rush through the content" which means people would find out the game is kind of short in the end.

>>16377286

Granted. Just the way they go about it and the stark inconsistencies are physically painful.

>>16377286

The game is a sandbox game so I don't know why they even bother. Half the time I just spend hours on survival and getting prime shit for platinum. If they ruined my amprex I'd be pretty mad. Hopefully they don't because they're nerfing way too much and making shit unfun

>>16355195

Saw this thread and decided to finally bite the bullet and download this game on my _-_-_-PS4-_-_-

Any links to a beginners guide or something, any tips or things you wish you knew when you first started playing?

Also I've heard that this game is a lot of waiting around for stuff to happen, any further clarification on this?

>>16377494

Early on you'll be running around clearing nodes to unlock more content, so don't worry about the waiting. Low-level gear doesn't take too long to manufacture either.

The waiting comes in later when you're looking for specific alerts and drops, and crafting Prime gear which can take weeks (three days to craft a component, another three days to combine the components to build the item itself, etc).

It's been years since I played, I dropped back in when they did the open world content, but so much had changed that I just didn't feel like learning the game all over again.

I miss the old melee system.

>>16377494

If you want some new gear you'll need to wait 12 hours, 24 hours, or 72 hours. I think there's a 6 hour time as well not sure. You can tell how many hours it'll be by the type of weapon.

>primary = 24 hours

>secondary = 12 hours

>melee is dependent

You can speed it up with platinum but it's advised to not do that unless you're rich in platinum or if you really don't need it for something else. Most of the time you're going to want to use platinum for weapon or frame slots.

Don't waste platinum on resources unless you physically can not wait for a forma or a reactor thing. reactors are called potatoes because they look like potatoes

Don't forget that certain elements like acid are more effective against grineer than corpus. There are a couple elements that work well for both but it's generally electricity for corpus and acidic shit for grineer. Just layer that shit on with mods when you get them. Oh and fire for the infested. Level every fucking weapon to the max and DO NOT sell them until you level them to 30. Trust me, it's a pain if you don't. Even if they're fucking aids max rank them. Your mastery rank is dependent on getting good shit. A new weapon and frame will give you mastery for each level but you don't get more points for it once it's been maxed out once. Try and join a clan and go get all the blueprints for the weapons and shit, leave once you have them unless you're actually interested. Half the people in this game are braindead but I've met a fair few people who were pretty cool. one of them I assume died a few years ago but I don't have any means of communicating with him anymore

>>16377496

Aim for a Lex Prime for a good secondary on the star chart, don't sell the Broken War, or any quest warframe blueprints like Limbo or Titania,what was your starter frame?

>>16377494

Pick Excalibur at the start. You start with 50 plat, so I'd recommend 20 plat to another frame slot(for rhino), 24 plat to 4 more weapon slots(for variety and mastery). Nightwave is bad so you'll have trouble getting potatoes for your gear, but you shouldn't need to worry about that for a while.

>getting this plinx won't be so hard now that I have learnt that fishing and gems are better and easier to do

>daily limit

oh yeah, that's why I stopped playing

>>16377494

Go through the planetary map like Mario Bros 3. Youll run into junctions that link the map to the next planet, and they've got a checklist of things to do before you can use them.

For every unique piece of gear you get (for example, Mk-1 Braton, Braton, Braton Prime, Braton Vandal, Exalibur, Excalibur Prime, Excalibur Umbra) level it up to 30 even if you don't like it much. Every unique mastered item adds to your Mastery Rank, which is basically your overall player level.

Expanding the map and your mastery level are the two most important things for unlocking new content. Each planet has its own type of material drops for creating new gear. Quests will often take place in specific areas so you want to make those places accessible. Your mod capacity on new gear will match your mastery rank instead of start at 0. New players get a small bundle of platinum, spend that on weapon inventory slots or warframe inventory slots. Inventory slots are the only gameplay-affecting thing that require platinum. You can get more later by trading with other players.

>>16377494

It's a good idea to power through all the Mk-1 set of weapons as soon as possible, all of them can be instantly bought with credits with no grind time while giving you a fair idea of playstyle differences while being weak enough to only be good early game.

When you get a taste of bullshit power, you'll understand why it's necessary to grind through the low-end ASAP.

>>16382330

I'd recommend opening up the route to powerlevel spots ASAP.

>>16382248

That looks like a bug or some big issue. Is your brightness actually on? Because it looks like it's on 0. Look on the forums because I've never seen it look that dark before.

>>16382413

You should see certain Corpus tilesets or fortuna, when I enter the lab in Profit Taker Phase 2 I can't see shit for 30 seconds, when I get out of a cave and the sun shines I am blinded by the light, is some kind of shitty "realistic" lighting effect or something.

>>16382431

Definitely not, this must be an error on your end because I've never had this before. Might want to try reinstalling.

>>16382463

My whole OS or the game? because I reinstalled Warframe from zero last time and I just installed the OS a few months ago.

>>16377501

>dead friends

you from the 8chan clan?

>>16382476

Just the game, doubt it's an os problem.

>>16382486

yeah but I left shortly after I joined because no one was active, don't think I spoke of it much.

mainly because of the guilt I feel, I don't like to dwell on it much

>>16382641

Thought you might have been someone else, sorry for bringing it up, anon.

>>16382727

A boss fight. Get max rank with solaris united and you can fight it.

>going to get some tynoids or whatever the fuck they were called

>spend a while getting level 4 reinforcements

>all of a sudden enemies can ignore my rift abilites

ah yes the classic tactic of ignoring a rift in fucking time, makes sense.

>>16382754

Feel like it'd be worthless

>>16382776

Well you get toroids from it, that let you level up in vox solaris quite fast at 6000 rep per toroid.

>>16382776

That's on you for exploiting the game and making Scott's hard work go to waste, or so the shills would say.

>>16382776

The sheer amount of fucking shit that ignores the rift lately has been getting on my nerves. I could see major stuff like wolfy-boi's super hammer, but a goddamned molotov cocktail? Come on.

>>16382776

>all of a sudden enemies can ignore my rift abilites

Scyto Raknoids, Kyta Raknoids, Coolant Raknoids, Hyenas and Jackals ignore almost all Warframe powers (exception: Gara's wall as it creates physical terrain) so they can bust right through most CC.

There are some things that ignore rift status because DE has forgotten to whitelist/blacklist it (infested power carriers in Excavation,) but those five specifically are meant to ignore powers.

>>16382809

Speaking of excavation I found out something interesting, apparently hitboxes persist on the rift, which means let's say a bunch of chargers entered the rift and got frozen by stasis when they were hitting you or the excavator, once the rift expires one way or another you will take all damage, is almost like Valkyr's hysteria when you fail to kill enemies hitting you.

>>16382791

>>16382805

>>16382809

In my opinion there should be nothing that can ignore the rift, and if there is then it should be nullifier enemies not just some random robot with a big shield

>>16382783

That would be nice, for some reason the enemies in open world even with nidus and all my op gear seem to struggle more than usual.

>level 50 enemies in survival

>ez

>level 30 enemies in open world

>fucking impossible and die often

???

Wasn't even an open area. It was in the temple of kikery.

>>16382841

I'm actually fine with certain stuff ignoring it since exalted weapons and abilities can cross the rift, but things that can cross the rift should LOOK like they can, not just be random. Show some cool energy bullshit, spew particles all over, make a neat sound, something.

>>16382841

Terra Elites do much more damage than normal Level 30 enemies.

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1035270-fortuna-hotfix-2409/

>New Elite Terra Corpus Enemies!

>In Hotfix 24.0.4 we reduced the difficulty of certain Terra Corpus enemies to improve the balance between Orb Vallis enemies. This change came mainly from low level/newer players finding it difficult to proceed within Orb Vallis. We still want to bring a level of challenge to those that want to take on higher level Terra enemies, thus the Elite Terra Corpus enemies have been added! These level 30+ Elite variants have higher Health/Shields and hit with harder damage.

All I WANT IS A FUCKING PLINX WHY DO I NEED TO GO THROUGH A THOUSAND HOOPS?

>>16382846

Yeah, I mean if it makes sense sure. What I don't like is how there's no real reason other than lol get fucked faggot. I doubt the Jackal has some nullifier rounds or anything.

>>16382848

That explains a lot.

>tfw actually starting to need people to help me out now

not fun with pubs though

>>16382854

I recommend you get gara and adaptation. With that, you'll never die, be able to give objectives a wall and 90% DR, and have infinite scaling damage.

>>16382846

>>16382854

Considering how energy leech eximus have a 10km aura and are not exactly easy to spot until you see your energy going down.

>hydroid prime systems go for 55

>manage to get some shmuck to sell it to me for 30

this must be how the jew feels

>>16383031

putting umbra forma on anything is a forced meme at this point.

>>16383142

should just craft a sculpture with it and expose it in your orbiter instead tbh

Is there a good place to use my nekros to farm a shit ton of mods?

>>16383322

Just, any mods?

>>16383338

Literally any, I just want to have a fucking ton.

>>16383345

Just play Nekros while doing the rest of your "chores" honestly, the hard part comes when trying to get archwing mods.

>>16383356

>archwing mods

I don't really do archwing so that's not too big of a deal for me. for now, I know how annoying that shit can be. I'll be putting that off for as long as possible

>>16383357

It is mostly for that one archwing you will use in free roaming levels and the archgun you will carry around for the wolf.

>>16383384

I don't really use archwing other than fast movement and all this wolfshit I'm completely missing out on because I have no clue what it even is. But judging by his appearances pissing me off with his super intense high armor and hp I feel like I don't want to meet him more.

Warframe has lost its charm for me – the grind kept me for a while but once you realize all enemies have the same AI from the start to end of the star chart the game becomes hollow. There is no real skill or difficulty, just churning mobs and hoping you don't take a rando bullet from somewhere.

If DE would fix the PVP system instead of releasing lame story modes the community would be better off. This game Kurtzpel seems like where I will be spending my time. Its a customizable PVP game, maybe like monhun or animesouls. I can no longer play the same mission ad infinitum for a dumb ass gun. 4/20

>>16383492

He likes to appear when you are power leveling, I am pretty sure it is deliberate.

>>16383541

thanks for letting us know?

>>16383541

Nobody except like 10 people care about PvP, Warframe should have never implemented it.

>>16382248

Color correction can fuck with it as well as the typical lighting settings. Try setting the ones with sliders to default and the rest off, and then re-enable them one by one to find the culprit. I've also had issues with windowed mode forcing some settings to wash out the colors and change the contrast.

>>16382776

It drops lots of cash, lots fortuna materials, a big toroid for vox solaris rep, and rarely some other less important cosmetic stuff. If you get good at it, it's faster than focusing on grinding any single one of those things.

>>16382830

The thing about stasis is enemies aren't frozen, they're very very slowed down. Whatever attack they were doing is still active and going to happen if you don't kill them.

>>16383492

He mentioned an archgun for the Wolf since he often shows up while you're leveling new or recently-forma'd gear. Having an archgun equipped in the Heavy Weapon slot means it won't steal any xp from the rest of your loadout unless you summon it and use it, so you can freely keep a beefy archgun on you at all times with no downside.

The Wolf drops parts to his Wolf Sledge hammer, which you can throw like a glaive. So far the only way to get his hammer and his new sentient mask (for your operator to wear) is to kill him when he invades you. He's immune to status procs and has innate damage reduction. Shattering Impact (use any fast weapon that has any amount of Impact damage) will strip all his armor, so then you're only dealing with the damage reduction. Summon specters from your gear wheel to take his attention, use void dash to throw his invincible minions away, and feel free to fuck off to some other part of the level to recover. If you happen to be Garuda, she can use her 1 to siphon blood from his invincible minions and build up a blood ball worth multiple millions of damage, then chuck it at him. Oberon's 1 might work too since it also scales off of enemy max hp. If you're invisible in any way then you should be able to safely hose him down with damage, but spawn a specter anyway. Khora's a good specter for this since it'll also summon her cat, so that's two distractions in one summon.

>>16383571

It could be windowed mode then, well, part of the problem, my monitor is not 16:9 so using fullscreen fucks with the image aspect.

As for Stasis, typical shit implementation then.

>>16383585

They're time frozen, not reset back to neutral. It keeps in line with what the skill is meant to be. Other "stop" powers such as old Petrify and Avalanche put enemies into a distressed animation first, which puts them at neutral when the animation is over. Stasis is probably the only part of Limbo's kit that isn't shit implementation.

>>16383764

You're reaching too far anon. The nezha skin was just intentionally bad for attention. Gold star for the revelation that awkward people can look funny.

>>16383851

Recolors aren't permanent. It takes about a minute to boot up the game, pick a tennogen skin I already have, and hit random til it lands on barf. Do you think they bought the skin specifically for this and it's their magnum opus? Who's falling for who?

>>16383911

That's a very unsettling picture.

>>16383972

I thought the same thing. When your eyes aren't focused it looks like she has a stoma and half her face is missing.

>>16383911

I bought the Mag Alata skin back when her only options were default or prime, both of which looked like they were left in a dirty closet. I trade for the deluxes. Prime access costs WAY too much for what it is, whales only.

Did you think you were going to shame me because I spent six dollars on a game? Come on now. If that's harsh for you then you've got bigger problems than people baiting you into sperging about neon barf recolors.

>>16384092

Your taste just sucks then. Made-up stuff about Nezha's gender is global chat bait because it gets guaranteed replies.

>gotta be a boomer if theyre not bankrupted by the price of a sub sandwich

Don't know what to tell you anon, I don't need to eat intersection handouts or mom's PB&J to live comfortably.

>>16384129

thanks doc.

>>16384108

>>16384072

>Did you think you were going to shame me because I spent six dollars on a game?

If everyone spent six dollars on Warframe, then those dirty Canadians and their chink overlords would have enough money to fund a nuclear weapons program to rival North Korea. Is that what you want?

<muh I'm not poor so making retarded purchases is justified

"A fool and his money are easily parted" - someone smarter than you

>>16383652

>>16384129

>I didn't even consider the lgbtp angle, despite the warframe having fluid sexuality?

It's an empty suit, a husk, an elaborate piece of combat equipment that acts as both armor and a weapon. It doesn't even have a sexuality, let alone a "fluid" one. Also, what's with those colors? Are you brain damaged? Nice Buzz Lightyear cosplay you've got there, faggot.

You disgust me.

>>16384129

>Ruining Excalibur like this

This should be a crime punishable by death.

>>16384628

Dont even bother with hydroid for farming unless there's already nekros and khora. Sliced-up bodies count for two desecrates.

Anyone think it's possible to completely crash the market site? We should just flood it with really low prices for everything and then buy everything out.

>>16385526

You would need to have hoarded a ton of stuff.

>>16385526

Considering the cap on daily trades, there is a hard limit on how much one can crash the market.

>>16385576

>>16385571

Annoyingly good points, shame. Would've been funny to completely crash the value of everything.

>>16383541

>PvP

>In warframe

Warframe tried e-sports shit with Lunaro and thank fuck that fell through. Go shill somewhere else.

>win three indexes in a row challenge is worth 5000 points

>it's as easy as letting Gara cast her 4 on your own goal so the enemies don't get anywhere near it

great challenge, I'd rather get the 1 hour kuva survival with a friend back to be honest

>>16386289

Khora's Strangledome is a lot surer. I saw a flyer get over, and the Bursa is able to blast through.

>>16386289

You just timelock it with a Limbo with decent duration and range. Bonus points for laying down a Zenistar inside your bubble.

>>16386289

By round 3 most enemies can shatter the glass pretty quickly, if you aren't prepared they can slip past, if you are playing on the indoors arena it is common for the enemy to set up spawners inside your goal or even spawn on top of the goal and drop down.

>>16383652

The only color scheme that's acceptable for him is a washed out/faded version of his colors while using the deluxe skin.

>>16384628

>65% chance strangledome

>Vs 100% chance tentacle storm

>going max power/efficiency tentacle storm basically nukes everything it hits within range unless there's something special preventing death

Am I missing something? Did pirateframe get nerfed?

>People will bring catframe instead of Hydroid to farm missions.

Good. I'm tired of people hanging around me expecting a "pilfroid".

>>16387124

Nekros is the king of this, and Khora's Strangledome cuts up bodies so Desecrate works twice more per corpse for three chances at more drops. As Hydroid you're not really going to be cutting up every corpse ASAP so you'll have less synergy with Nekros than Khora does. In terms of capacity, Khora can cast two domes at a time, so she can cover at least two major inlets of whatever room you're in, potentially all of them depending on the shape of the room. Each dome can hold 26 enemies at a time and reel in more when a spot is made empty. Khora can run a negative strength high range build with Accumulating Whipclaw and still beat the shit out of everything in a dome with one strike, since Whipclaw on a strangled target will hit everything in the same dome.

Hydroid with max range and charged cast can only make 20 tentacles at a time, and at max range the tentacles will be weak as shit and just serve to make enemies hard to shoot, so you'll have to rely on a nuke for tentacles to pick up new enemies. Strangledome holds them in place, even though they tend to spin around their vertex while ragdolled.

>>16387244

It's still pretty marginal so I would say it would be personal preference. At the best case scenario you have the following two examples.

>100% (PSwarm) + 54% (Desecrate) = 154% (not considering neither Hydroid nor Nekros to have cutting weapons)

vs

>65% (PDome) + 54%x2 (Desecrate) = 173%

It's a 19% difference and PDome MUST cut enemies into smaller bits for it to be more efficient.

>>16387351

Sounds more obnoxious than undo-able.

If you have a naturally fast frame (like loki) you could probably just stack movespeed to counter the hobble effects then get a lot of shield and go to a mission where enemies dont instantly delet you.

>>16387365

Might just go sell it veiled. As much as I'd love the thrill of multiple men in my ass I think I'll take the benefit of not having that tonight.

>>16387351

The saving grace of these challenges is if you use an ability at the very start of the mission it doesn't count. So using rhino's ironskin will let you just walk through the mission. I had to do this today that needed hobbled, no abilities, no damage taken, no traps, synthesis. And all I got was a fucking serro riven.

>>16387408

Yeah, I can't be fucked to jump through those hoops. Just sold it and bought a synoid simulor for 37 so technically speaking I only spent 7 platinum for that which is better than the mess that would've been that challenge for no doubt, a turd.

>>16387351

I had that but also "take no damage." I went as limbo and stayed rifted, lured the target (ancient healer) to a closet, unrifted myself, and my sentinel with cryotra kept it disabled with shock and blast procs while I scanned it. It took about three minutes total from mission start to completing the riven. You can't scan while you're rifted so I had to jump out. Someone told me afterwards that I could've just swapped to operator and scanned it in void mode instead. Haven't tried that but it probably works.

>>16387341

Khora can cover two instances of 56 meters (so 112 total) with more targets each than Hydroid can cover in one instance of 42 meters. She can hold 26 enemies in one dome (so 52 in total), he can hold 20 enemies in one swarm. Khora will cover more of the level and affect far more enemies.

>>16387455

>switching to rhino is a hoop

Yeah okay, anyway you're better off selling veiled most of the time anyway cause in all likely hood you're gonna roll some shit weapon. I unveil mine mostly nowadays just cause I have more plat than I know what to do with, so I'd rather get a chance at a fun riven.

>Wolf finally spawns, I basically entered into a wolf fight on lua

>chose this node because I was leveling a forma'd frame

>my strongest weapon is a non-forma'd max mara detron

>literally lasts 15 minutes of just chasing this asshole around and doing minimal damage as a group

<drops eleventh storm

Okay I can see why everyone's getting mad now.

>>16387560

Make sure you've always got a decent archgun with you, it can save you a lot of time and won't interfere with leveling the rest of your loadout.

>>16387560

At least it wasn't in like a high level void where he spawned at level 70 and his three invincible asshole friends instadown you with their molotovs

also had a Limbo in the party, him using Cataclysm not only does nothing to Wolf but he's also invincible while he's inside the bubble

>>16387609

>I'm not maxed standing with city of krang yet

>>16387626

It happened to me today during a kuva flood. I was Ivara, other were Khora, Volt, and whatever. I told them to sit on my ziplines for the augment's crit damage buff, did a lot of resurrecting teammates. Eventually I remembered Ivara's got a strong bow and he was dead two minutes later. I think from his spawn in to his death it was six minutes. We would've finished faster if Volt had made any shock shields. Khora could ensnare him but rarely did. I only realized that's what she did afterward because it looked like he was sleeping and the chains didn't appear.

>>16387635

You could always alternatively just have one good gun on you. I have on me at all times either a kitgun with pax charge, redeemer prime, or valkyr.

>new nightwave

>60min kuva

It's that time again boys.

>>16387685

Region chat and reddit already complaining.

>>16387772

>Tfw i only needed 10k to rank 30

>>16387772

Literally just did this >>16384628 and hammered out both the no air tanks (though I did farm some kuva while at it) and the 60m at the same time with some atterax memes for good measure. It was tedious but they're just bad and lazy.

>>16387075

>…while using the deluxe skin.

Someone really likes them masculine butts and critch bulges I see.

>>16387351

Operators don't count as abilities BTW.

>>16388946

His deluxe skin is ironically far more masculine than his base though.

>>16388970

That's the point, is not even ironically.

Is there a good spot or worthwhile guide for relic farming?

>>16389548

Just use the wiki tbh

>>16389548

Use this as an important resource to help your decision making

https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/repos/hnfvc0o3jnfvc873njb03enrf56.html

Ctrl F to find what you need of course.

As for general advice: Hieracon, Pluto is a good catchall. It has 400 endo rewards in Rotation A, Neo Relics on B, and Axi on C as well as giving 25k credits per run and of course the cryotic which they have a few sinks for now.

Grind Hard Squad of Youtube suggests Ivara cheese for Interception for Axi relics. I haven't done this yet, but Ivara cheesing Interception is effective. You stay cloaked, noise arrow all the enemies into one spot, then put them to sleep. No new enemies can spawn and the current enemies you can keep infinitely incapacitated.

If you want the shiny new prime's relics then doing bounties is the best way. Remember Solaris United bounties can give double rewards too.

There is also the Profit Taker bounties, which award Radiant Relics, that may be a good avenue to go. Elite Sanctuary Onslaught also has Radiant Relics as rewards in addition to beta weapon parts. However with ESO the Axi is usually a rare drop on Rotation C so it's not really worth it if you don't need anything else from that pool.

>>16389548

Relics are usually only given out by certain rotations of certain mission types of certain grades, so it's best to find out what relic you want to farm rather than farm for relics in general.

>>16389548

Mot for neo and some axi relics. Xini, eris is for axi farming. That's usually the straightforward way. May be different for some specific relics.

>>16391392

> noise arrow all the enemies into one spot

That would actually work on Interception? I would have thought the enemies would ignore it if they're already heading to a point. Guess I should try this on my max range Ivara build sometime.

DE better fuck with stances with the rest of melee 3.0. As it stands block combos are a pain to do, and 90% of combos are too obnoxious to do because you either have to hold or pause. I've been fucking around with the kronen and the hold combo on gemini cross is fucking fun, but it's just barely worth doing.

>>16392000

>windows 10

>>16392955

My problem with current melee is how some combos and attacks move you around and don't let you stay onto your target, other times they nail you to the ground inches away from your effective range.

>>16392955

make an auto-key macro for the combo you want. you might have to adjust the speed if you use berserk.

>>16392955

at least im not paying for the garbage. I need a windows machine for work anyhow

>>16385526

For what purpose? Is jewing people on rivens not enough for you?

>>16393429

Jews never tire of jewing

>>16393429

I thought it'd be funny.

>>16393955

Each post is more disappointing than the last

>>16394249

For a skin on what frame or how?

>>16394133

You'll die like the rest.

>>16394249

>>16394508

Ember? It'd be cool if skins made your abilities a little bit different too, just texture wise obviously but it'd be neat.

>>16394927

So far the only real thing you can edit when it comes to tennogen skins are the normals and color patterns which can give some different looks on the frame, you could theoretically change Ember's skin to look like cracked volcanic rocks or something.

>>16391392

I prefer chaos Nyx for interception cheese. Don't know how much better or worse she is at it than Ivara, but it's an excuse to use Nyx.

>>16395085

If we're talking magma under cracked surface, look to Rhino Vojnik skin for something similar as inspiration.

Apparently you need to enter the mission together for the 40 wave defense. If you disconnect and have to rejoin, even if the mission hasn't started, you won't get the challenge completed.

so is it worth it to throw a catalyst on dera vandal? what are its strengths and weaknesses?

>>16406042

ok but listen surely I can just use it with high status chance + puncture to get a lot of good procs right? maybe throw on a bit of slash damage too for good measure? can be some kinda crowd control?

>>16406051

what are you smoking, trinity is the best at what she does. she's the only healslut in town, so it's good that she's so useful, but if you're hoping to be a dps or tank, then go away

>>16406063

Anon, puncture procs make the target do 30% less damage. That's it. They are grade A useless. And there's tons of other guns that do status just as well and also aren't useless.

>>16406063

Every single situation I've been in me or the other player playing trinity is the first to go down, or eveyrone else is already full on focus/health

>>16406082

>managing to die on a frame that grants 75% DR, instant full heal, and infinite energy, and 100% damage mitigation with link

How?

>>16406098

scratch that, link only does 75%, but 75% DR on top of 75% DR should be more than enough.

>>16406075

yeah, you're probably right, but I just don't want to believe that it's mostly just trash

>>16406082

she's got low armor so she's pretty flimsy but she can give you free energy and health if you really need it, plus she does faster revives and she can transfer damage received to an enemy via her link ability. basically you want to constantly keep up the link ability so you don't receive damage, then use energy vampire and well of life as necessary. her 4 is an instant heal + shield replenish, and you can pretty much build her to be able to use it all the time. she's great.

>>16406082

That sounds like bullshit. Trinity can keep herself and everyone else alive better than any other frame. Squad health, energy, and shields are a button press away and she redirects the damage she takes. You probably just never noticed the times she was carrying you because her skills aren't a flashy nuke.

>>16406167

The only time I notice a player is when they're down, and it's usually Trinity

>>16406280

So you just attract mental defectives then? To die as her you need to ignore the game or use her for the first time without reading what her abilities do. Pretty sure you're lying just to exaggerate about her so you can claim SHE'S shitty and it's not just you. She has damage mitigation and every restorative you could want, usually for an instant refill, and you're still struggling as her somehow.

When is the WoSS event supposed to end? I'm just missing the armor set and I really really want it for my atlas

>>16406334

You've got a week or two left to go, you'll be fine. The chest piece doesn't look good on Atlas. His torso is so wide and the chest piece is so curved that it ends up looking like a weird monoboob.

>>16406375

The other pieces look nice however.

>>16406375

Nice, I have plenty of time left!

I don't care that much about the chest piece, almost every chest piece looks terrible on him

so how do you get the item that lets you use the archwing weapons in free roam?

>>16406326

Half of the trinities that I've seen are mentally incapable of pressing the 3 key.

With trinities ability set there's no reason why they should be going down, but they do.

>>16411511

>>16406326

If they are running an EV build they wont have the duration to make good use of her 3 and her 4 becomes a quick heal. If they are running a balanced or bless build though yeah it's very difficult to die.

>>16411502

Max out Solaris United then do the Profit Taker bounties for Vox Solaris. One is given the first time the third bounty has been completed.

It can only be used on an arch gun that has had a catalyst installed on it.

>>16411532

EV Trinity is an honest to God meme build, I swear. Abating Link Trinity can do everything an EV Trinity can do while also being immortal so long as they don't forget to press 3 or 4.

>>16413480

No, just make Ordis less spoilery

>This axi grind

3 hours in marduk for 1 L4 relic. The value of that loki part has got to be climbing like nothing else.

>>16413500

EV isn't a meme build in ESO or with a dedicated farming squad. In those situations trinity doesn't need survivability because you have enough dps that the only concern is providing energy fast and a heal here and there.

>>16406051

Trinity main here, you're full of shit or you're at the bottom of the gene pool. Trinity only dies that fast in specific situations, like farming Eidolons, where getting her EV always up becomes a problem.

In any other case, her Link gives her 75% DR while also damaging nearby enemies with damage redirection, the little damage you'll take can be healed with your 4 any time since it has low cooldown and you'll always have energy as long as you use EV.

The key to EV is to kill whoever has it so you can recast it faster (you get all the energy it would grant you overtime in a full burst when the target dies).

In fact, I have so much energy with Trinity I even specced to Channeling. CHANNELING!

It's only really a problem when you can't get EV consistently going, like I said. With that gone, Link and your Heal aren't up all the time either so you'd die easily.

Vombalysts can give you trouble for instance, since they don't fully die when you shoot them, making you wait for the full energy EV gives you, and Eidolons can't be targeted with EV either.

Maybe there's some other situations like that, but even in ESO I'd assume you could still get bursts of energy as long as your team is killing whoever you target with EV.

>>16428538

>Channeling

I have never seen anyone talk about it, ever. Is it a good thing if you can spare the energy, or is it merely a meme imitating Exalted weapons? Haven't touched a single channeling mod since I started.

>>16429365

It’s a massive meme. There’s no reason to ever channel unless you want to look kinda flashy and waste some energy.

>>16429365

It's one big fat meme. There's some advantages to it, like dealing somewhat more damage, but the best part would be parrying attacks, which completely deflects all damage and even returns bullets back to the shooter. Also, you look really shiny with it.

But the issue is still that Channeling fights your abilities for energy and most of the time any ability is a better waste of Energy than Channeling could ever be. No surprise that they are going to be replacing it with an entirely different system in the future.

The only frames that could bother to even use it regularly were frames that could get infinite energy easily, so Trinity or Nekros with the proper build. Dunno if Octavia can regenerate energy fast enough for that as well, but I doubt it. Maybe Oberon?

Basically, if you're going to be topped of with Energy all the time, you might as well toggle Channeling on, otherwise don't bother.

>>16431259

>or Nekros with the proper build.

Nope. Remember, Channeling disintegrates corpses so Nekros would actually be hindered by it.

Corpse disintegration for stealth is the only real use for Channeling.

They could easily fix channeling. Just remove it and replace it with charge attacks, you know, those things that were removed for channeling. And no, the dogshit new charge attacks aren't a replacement. Melee 2.0 was the worst thing to happen to melee in the game. Suddenly it isn't "blade and gun" or whatever the tagline they had was. Now you have to put away your fucking gun to use melee properly. It's so unfathomably stupid, and even dumber is that essentially every cocksucker defends it. Melee is a situational thing. You don't have time to wait for the slow ass swapping animation when something manages to run up to you as you use your gun. Similarly, if something shows up outside of your reach, or something like those retarded electric mines, you want to just shoot it and be on your way. There is absolutely zero gameplay advantage to forcing the player to swap between melee and gun and it worked perfectly before 2.0 fucked everything up. The only "advantage" to it is so that homosexuals can pretend to be cool when they look at their character model holding just a katana and jack off to "muh blade alone".

Don't even get me started on combos. Every retarded motherfucker kept saying that it was a great idea when I pointed out that they don't work in Warframe. DE said they took inspiration from games like DMC, but the mindless faggots refused to consider that what works in DMC doesn't work in Warframe. DMC has comparatively few enemies, actual telegraphing, hitstun, an enemy roster that isn't 90% hitscan or fast enough to be hitscan projectile users, and most importantly actual fucking inputs for moves. Want to lunge at the enemy? You use stinger, easy. In Warframe you have to press E three times, hold E once, then press E after a short pause or something equally stupid. The unbelievable retards don't understand that specific moves like that are situational and you need to be able to use them when you need them, in as well as able to not use them when you just want to perform a normal melee even.

Then 3.0 came and fucked melee even harder. At last they made weapon switching faster, something they've been asked to do for many tears. Unfortunately they also removed quick melee entirely, so now you're forced to use the retarded, ill-fitting combos any time you aren't doing spins and nothing else. People don't want to use our objectively bad shit mechanics? We can't have that, time to delete the "actually just hit the enemy without performing an interpretative dance" key.

tl;dr DE are unbelievably incompetent and their fanbase of blind faggots refuse to admit how incompetent they are. Also that goes for you fags too, back when 2.0 dropped I kept talking about the many reasons why it was shit but you massive faggots would just defend it, claiming that it was a huge improvements.

>>16431361

>Didn't listen

To be fair you never made a coherent single post about it like this.

Now your hatred makes sense. DMC is layers upon layers of mechanics, with a 95% melee enemy pool. Inspiration from it here will always be jury rigged and ill fitting.

>>16431285

ive recently tried it with him and i was sure he desecrated the bodies even after they vanished. played the sound/aura where they were

>>16431406

>To be fair you never made a coherent single post about it like this.

I made big fucking posts about it long ago, in even more detail. I stopped because every faggot would just claim that 2.0 is perfect and flawless. I just typed the above post up on a whim, and because I actually have seen people admit that 2.0 is flawed, years after they kept saying that it was perfect. I even saw the "people" on the official forums admit it some time ago, and that's why DE were making 3.0. Too bad 3.0 fixed absolutely nothing about the underlying issues and just took away your ability to quick melee.

>>16431361

Except that's not the point of channeling at all. That'd be at best just extra damage at the cost of longer moves instead of expending some resource you have and it does not contribute anything towards improving your defense, whereas channeling gives 100% damage mitigation and deflection of bullets while parrying.

I already listed the problems with channeling but simply making charge attacks wouldn't work either. Making it use a "melee energy" that you build up by hitting dudes with your melee weapon and then expend in stronger attacks or defense would work a lot better.

I haven't tried melee 3.0 yet but wasn't that what they were going for with? Charging attacks with melee strikes and then performing a stronger move?

And isn't what they did anyway exactly what you wanted? You press E and you melee, you press LMouse and you shoot without any swapping at all, with the bonus that you can start using the combos simply by tapping E instead of having to switch to melee mode.

I'll also point out that you could have solved some of these problems on your own by rebinding some keys. My setup was F to change weapons, E for Quick Melee and LMouse for melee strikes, so I could be shooting, holding F for a second and then start slashing with LMouse and go back to shooting simply by tapping F while also having Quick Melee available at any time.

Not defending DE, but you do have options available that you don't seem keen on using, so you suffer because of your own lazyness\incompetence as well, not just theirs.

>>16431528

>Except that's not the point of channeling at all.

The point, which you somehow managed to miss, is that they replaced a good and useful mechanic with a convoluted shit mechanic that even the players admit is almost useless.

>I haven't tried melee 3.0 yet but wasn't that what they were going for with? Charging attacks with melee strikes and then performing a stronger move?

Do you even know what charge attacks were? That is not how they worked. 3.0 had none what you're talking about when I last tried it (I uninstalled shortly after it dropped because I saw that the game had become even worse). Besides, like I mentioned, melee is situational. Enemies spawn in the next room over and rush you at light speed. You can have time to hold a key to charge up an attack as they rush you, but you don't have time to build up a fucking combo for it. This idea that you have to plan ahead in a game where there is a semi-constant stream of newly spawned random enemies from random directions is insane. Not just that, but consider that there a million enemies that disrupt you in various ways, like knockdowns, slowing effects or area denial. Melee is fucking situational. You need to be able to use it when you need it without any pointless extra requirements.

>And isn't what they did anyway exactly what you wanted? You press E and you melee, you press LMouse and you shoot without any swapping at all, with the bonus that you can start using the combos simply by tapping E instead of having to switch to melee mode.

Yes, they made weapon switching faster. I said that. They also removed quick melee so now you're forced to use their combo bullshit. That is not how melee worked before 2.0. They finally fixed weapon switching, sort of, but in the process they made melee even worse. Read the things I'm typing, why don't you?

>I'll also point out that you could have solved some of these problems on your own by rebinding some keys. My setup was F to change weapons, E for Quick Melee and LMouse for melee strikes, so I could be shooting, holding F for a second and then start slashing with LMouse and go back to shooting simply by tapping F while also having Quick Melee available at any time.

What the fuck are you even trying to say here? Did you even play the game before 2.0? Before 2.0, you didn't have to put away your gun at all to make full use of melee. 2.0 was a straight downgrade in every way. Also, you talk about rebinding keys, but aren't those the default fucking keybinds? Swapping with F and quick melee on E? And since you don't appear to have understood it yet: with 2.0 they removed charging. They never reverted that, though at one point they pretended to by giving certain weapons a completely useless charge attack BUT ONLY WHILE YOU HAD YOUR GUN AWAY, making them nothing like the old charge attacks. Let me also point out that the old charge attacks were much more powerful, and unless I'm mistaken so was melee in general. They nerfed it to shoehorn in their combo counter (that one that increases melee damage as your hit counter rises). In other words, you traded the ability to use melee competently when you needed it for having to build up a fucking hit counter, making it completely useless in many cases. They nerfed melee and "made up" for it by making it strong if you used only melee and had a steady stream of enemies to keep your combo alive on. Once again, they don't understand that melee is a situational thing.

>Not defending DE, but you do have options available that you don't seem keen on using, so you suffer because of your own lazyness\incompetence as well, not just theirs.

If you were actually capable of processing the words you read, you would know that 3.0 removed quick melee. Your "options", which incidentally had fuck all to do with what I was talking about, don't even exist anymore. You're simply an arrogant yet clueless caveman, fully incapable of seeing why it's a bad idea to replace good mechanics that fit the flow of the game's gameplay with shit mechanics that don't suit the gameplay and create a wedge in between the two combat systems. It used to be that melee was seamlessly integrated into the combat and you could use it in conjunction with guns with no penalties, when you needed it. They killed that because they wanted flashier combos that make you flip around the room like a caffeine-overdosed Dante played at double speed.

>>16431607

The point I was trying to make was that channeling offered you some more options in terms of defense that charge attacks do not.

>They also removed quick melee so now you're forced to use their combo bullshit.

What are you talking about? Mashing E for melee attacks will use the default combo that's just as fast as quick melee anyway. You're not going to get the special combos that require timing it but it's not like those are that great or even required anyway.

You're severely exagerating this, as if with 2.0 or 3.0, pressing E requires several seconds between every strike you make when that's not what's happening at all.

>Did you even play the game before 2.0?

Played it from the start actually, back when there was only Loki, Excalibur and Volt.

I also didn't liked how things worked since everytime you were done meleeing something, you reverted to be holding your gun, which made your melee seem like a side-thing that you weren't supposed to focus on. The delay to switch weapons is stupid, but that's a problem of it's own, being capable of switching to melee only and focus on that instead of guns being your primary weapon all the time is a good thing.

>you talk about rebinding keys, but aren't those the default fucking keybinds?

The default keybinds have E for Quick Melee and for Melee as well. I replaced the Melee with LMouse button so I can use it instead of E when switching over to Melee. It helps with Combos and doesn't feel strange when you go from Gun to Blade and have to use a different key to attack. Trust me, this helps more than you might think.

Although, now I don't think it will actually be required.

>with 2.0 they removed charging. They never reverted that, though at one point they pretended to by giving certain weapons a completely useless charge attack BUT ONLY WHILE YOU HAD YOUR GUN AWAY

Yes, they made Quick Melee actually and only Quick Melee and if you wanted to do fancy shit with your Melee weapon like charge attacks, combos or what have you, you'd switch over to melee. That does make sense since E was supposed to be only a Quick Melee but it can indeed be a lot more since that's used for Slide or Aerial Attacks regardless of stance and that's why they changed it with 3.0

>Let me also point out that the old charge attacks were much more powerful, and unless I'm mistaken so was melee in general.

We are talking about Warframe at a point where melee weapons are king, with incredible range and damage on their weapon and no reload to the point that many players think guns are kinda optional. Main Strike and whips for instance, but some of those Jaws too would like to have a conversation with you.

As someone that played during melee 1.0, no it wasn't much stronger at all. You had to build specifically for it and even then it didn't worked very well with bosses, for instance.

All I'm getting from your post is that your autistic rage is making you see melee strikes take several hours between strikes when simply mashing E does pretty much what Quick Melee used to do anyway. You're complaining about a feature you're not even using (the timed combos) taking too long to perform when that's 3-4 seconds at best for a full combo and entirely optional for damage.

Basically, you're exagerating. A lot. And anyone that actually plays the game isntead of uninstalling it due to some bitchfit will see your shitpost and discard all you've written because of that.

>>16431627

Okay, I've actually tried Melee 3.0 for a bit and I'm really not seeing your problem. Me personally, this is going to take a while to get used to it since now I go back to using E for melee strikes and I have to "aim" my blocks.

But I can be shooting and start meleeing with combos to if I want at any time. And with sword in hand, when I click to shoot the shot goes out instantly, it's responsive as fuck. You even have your charged strikes now at any time since you can start them even with a gun out.

Now, if we are talking about damage, I did found this: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1060400-after-the-melee-weapon-switching-change-keep-the-quick-melee-keybinds-ability-to-do-combo-less-attacks/

Wherein a few autists prove that Quick Melee is actually more damaging than Stance Melee due to higher speed, not to mention better fluid animations for uninterrupted movement.

I've barely tried it yet but I think the second point (animations interrupting your movement) don't happen anymore and you can combo on the move anyway. But I could be wrong here, especially for heavier weapons.

Regardless of that, the difference in DPS is minimal for short term and it only seriously becomes a factor if you're focusing on melee entirely for damage with specific mods to take advantage of high attack speed.

This is on top that this was the first phase of changes and the combos are the next feature on the chopping block for some more streamlining, which could make them more usefull and less obnoxious, solving this problem where Quick Melee is still the best strategy for damage.

But if all you wanted was a few melee attacks to dispatch a mine or finish an enemy and you're this upset it's going to use your stance default combo instead of repeating the same 2 attacks when there's almost no difference between either, if you even uninstalled the game because of something that is planned to change in the future anyway, there's no argument to be had with you.

>>16431471

I'm sure he can beat it if it's one enemy, but if you cut a group into pieces I'm willing to bet you're going to miss some. Actually I'm not even sure you can chop enemies into pieces while channeling.

>>16433307

Because our world is in a fever. It has to get worse before it gets better.

>>16434049

M8 you already got every flavor of fag you could want in this game.

>>16434064

I wanted the flavor I like, but good

>>16434083

I'm not gay, so maybe I just don't get it, but nezha deluxe looks pretty good to me. Is it the flower theme you wanted? Or is nezha deluxe too masculine and you wanted some femboy shit?

they disabled the bunny ears, i'm peeved, those looked good on my rosy hildryn

>>16434286

she looks like a fucking artichoke

>>16434354

What if it smells like durian

>>16433307

Because burgerfat leftists and their obsession with niggers.

Anyone actually get an AXI L4 from a mission? I did the sabotage something like 30 times and didn't see one. I got about 7 neo v8s in the process.

>>16389548

https://tenno.zone/

This site you can keep track of every item you need and it will tell you the relics and where to get them. You don't even have to log in.

>>16434859

DE is Canadian.

>>16435349

I am not at all surprised this exists.

>>16434110

>nezha deluxe looks pretty good to me

Why don't you step out of that closet, my friend?

>>16435875

It was designed by a big gay, and elements of the design are explicitly sexual

>>16435902

and?

>>16435908

That's incredibly gay anon

>>16435917

nope

Inaros Prime when? Also Vauban needs to get something more crazy.

>>16438657

>Inaros Prime when?

Fall 2020 or so.

>>16434286

Also it's not fruits, exactly. Liger said the theme was "Succulents", so >>16434354 >>16434413 it wouldn't likely be fruity but it also wouldn't reek like a durian. It'd be puffy and juicy, though, if you're into that. Either way I need to get the Seeding Step already but I'm sick of arbitrations.

>playing shitty Chinese games

>>16439430

At first it was because I was trying to play something other than spores. Now I am fairly sure I'm some sort of masochist. Also stubborn.

>>16439438

You should probably switch to just trying to do toxic lash. I'd say use something with good block efficiency and healing return, like silva and aegis prime. Then for saryn use contagion cloud, and then umbral vit and fiber, then adaptation. The rest would just be strength and duration.

Why are fissure missions on a rotation? That's fucking stupid. Just offer both single fissure missions and endless alternatives as perpetual mission types.

>>16439416

mele saryn is alright. all about toxic lash, using molt to draw fire away and miasma for some cheap CC.

no matter what, you will run into a wall later on cuase they still havent balanced toxic lash with her other abilities, you can thank youtubers doing nothing but turret spores for that.

Which are the best syndicates to join?

>>16440836

Meridian, suda, and hexis are the only combo that lets you have three at a time, but also red veil, perrin, and loka are less popular so you can sell their stuff easier.

>>16440841

What? No. You can have RV, Perrin, and New Loka concurrently with now issues. This type of advice is usually simplified to "pick the three on the left or the three on the right."

>>16440870

*no issues. fuck me

>>16440870

Since when? I thought RV had too many enemies to make that possible without grinding like shit.

>>16440841

That's weird, because I'm in suda, hex, and meridian, with veil lagging a little behind

Git gud

>>16440874

Since always AFAIK

RV is allied with SM, opposed to Suda, and enemies with Hexis. If you go for the three on the right you can run it with zero consequences.

>>16440890

I thought RV and loka were enemies at some point, which is what broke it.

>>16440895

A change like that isn't listed in the patch notes on the Syndicates page of the wiki, but it could just not be included. I've taken many long breaks from this game so I can't say if was that way or it wasn't.

However it's not the case now and that's the important part. My friend IRL personally runs PS, NL, RV, and SM and I am like >>16440882 and have SM, CS, AH, and RV.

>>16440836

You want to get large health and energy restores, so You'll need at least a bit in Steel Meridian+Arbiters/New Loka+Perrin. Ammo restore from red veil is also nice, and that goes easily with Steel Meridian. For specters, NL > SM >= Suda >>> everyone else. The good news is that once you offer a sacrifice, you never need to offer it again. So if you want to get a bunch of ancient healer specters from NL but are general with SM, you can just rank up NL until you have all the specters you want, and when you go back to ranking up SM you will never have to offer sacrifices twice. That also means once you start going negative with NL, you don't need to offer sacrifices to get neutral or above gain. You'll still need the standing grind, but that's minor.

>>16441318

>So if you want to get a bunch of ancient healer specters from NL but are general with SM, you can just rank up NL until you have all the specters you want, and when you go back to ranking up SM you will never have to offer sacrifices twice.

And alternatively, if you have pissed a Syndicate off they will send assassination squads after you that drop their respective specter BP usually. It's a very passive way of farming, but you'll still build a stockpile of BPs from it.

>>16441330

I've got over thirty ancient healers that way without touching the syndicate once. I do NOT recommend bothering with buying them.

>>16439450

>S&S

>Healing return

Those are both pretty awful. I tried the same thing but one stance doesn't hit fast enough to matter, and the other one launches you halfway across the map with every attack so if you wanted to hit something you better hope it's ninety feet away because otherwise it's not happening.

>>16439963

I want to go back to Saryn 2. Aside from the nerf to Miasma it was fine. I'm tired of DPShitters making every frame need to be a heavy damaging type. The same thing happened with wisp and now she has a shit kit and a meme beam instead of something actually good.

>the newest warframe porn artists is drawing hyper futa cock vore and giantess anal vore of the female frames

Why does this game attract so many weirdos?

>>16441694

Blame the fucker who killed CC because he didn't like Mag throwing enemies into a pit.

>>16445720

how the fuck do you even find this shit, I never see stuff like that.

>>16446588

>tumblr for porn

Tumblr got rid of porn. Or did they cave and bring it back?

>>16446625

Not yet, but they predictably tanked and pornhub is looking into buying it

>>16445720

What kind of porn do you think a game in which the main characters are faceless, semi sentient biotech mutants and traumatized psycher kids with split personality disorder is going to inspire?

>>16439930

Everybody would just run exterminate or capture for single missions and probably a lot more of the former of the two, even. I still don't know what the most efficient infinite is but probably survival

>>16448196

The most efficient endless would be defense on most tilesets that are not that one grineer with shifting objectives.

>>16448196

Yeah, but don't forget that endless missions offer drop chance and affinity boosters, along with refined relics, as incentive for participation. All they have to do is give players some more incentive, like they've done with ESO. There's no reason that ESO should exist, and the only thing that separates it from normal onslaught are the reward tables and the enemy level ranges. These things could've been incorporated into one onslaught mode, in which the longer one stays, the stronger enemies become, but more valuable rewards will drop. I know what' you're thinking

>b-but what if I don't want to spend an hour in an endless mission just to get a chance at some better drops

I can sympathize with this mindset, and this is what justifies ESO's existence, so DE is catering to this concern already. Therefore, explain to me why this also couldn't be the case for endless missions in comparison to their single objective counterparts? As mentioned, the game already offers some boosters and refined relics as incentive, so why not just add more to that, so that players who want to crack relics while also taking care of some other objective can have the opportunity to do so.

I don't buy the idea that everyone is always trying to find the most efficient method to complete any given problem, because in this game any given player typically has multiple objectives on his mind, and if he can kill two birds with one stone, then he'll likely sacrifice some efficiency in one area in order to be efficient in another area(s).

>>16448242

>DE already fucked the game hard by not giving a shit about power creep and letting players lower the TTK and mission completion times drastically, so allowing players to do the same optimal meta fissure over and over would just add to that problem.

If they made fissures perpetual mission types, then the prevalence of prime parts may increase, as more people would have the opportunity to open relics at their own pace, which may have some impact on the economy. However, I don't see how this would effect power creep in any meaningful way. You might be able to argue that because more players will have access to better weapons, as a result of a potential increase in the circulation of prime parts, that a larger portion of the population would be able to deal with higher level enemies. While this true to an extent, there are still many bottlenecks that prevent any player from simply crafting a new weapon and making it as effective as it could possibly be, such as MR requirements, whether or not the weapon is fitted with an Orokin Catalyst, and the quality of the mods that are installed on said weapons (which are subject to the availability of other resources).

You might also argue that because some newly released prime weapons might be substantially more effective than the weapons that are already available, and because players would ultimately have a higher chance of acquiring them in an environment where the rate of opened relics has increased, that such changes would ultimately create a schism between said new and powerful weapons and older variants. I would disagree with this sentiment, because while this would be true to an extent, the availability of prime parts in circulation would not be responsible for this kind of outcome; rather, the initial design and implementation of the new weapons would be the culprit. Additionally, since this game is updated constantly, there's no reason the devs couldn't just make tweaks to existing weapons in order to better balance them out.

The only reason that fissures are on rotation? It's because, if they weren't, then the rate of opened relics could potentially increase, which is not advantageous to the business model. If you don't agree, then I'm open to hearing your perspective on why.

>>16448335

>Yeah, but don't forget that endless missions offer drop chance and affinity boosters, along with refined relics, as incentive for participation

These are meaningless outside of void trace farming. No one goes into an endless relic mission because of these bonus'. They are nice, but they do not influence anyone's decision at all.

>If they made fissures perpetual mission types, then the prevalence of prime parts may increase, as more people would have the opportunity to open relics at their own pace, which may have some impact on the economy.

The difference between capture, the fastest fissure type, and survival, a consistent endless is about 2x(fissure capture is around 1.5 -2 minutes). Even if there was a 24/7 capture fissure you would only be seeing twice as many relics opened at best. In reality, you wouldn't see a significant increase because not everyone opens every relic they have. Most people don't open most relics they haveJust count your Neo relics. The biggest concern for the economy is not how many relics are opened, but how accessible relics with valuable parts are. A lot of relic parts can only reliably be sold as ducat fodder, if you aren't using them for that yourself. DE did the right thing by keeping the loki and volt relics out of bounties, and because of the rarity of Axi l4 the price for loki prime systems is staying high, even though opening it requires around 1/20(survival fissure) to 1/30(capture fissure) of the time to farm it. If you were able to consistently do axi capture fissures, the price still wouldn't budge at all.

>>16448635

>Arby's drop chances improved

i cant wait. i love spending 3 hours in a survival only to come with a bunch of statues and endo. took me 5 hours just go get one of those rifle swap mods.

>>16449124

It's only ephemera and aura forma that are getting changes unfortunately. Mods are still going to be rare as shit.

>>16454623

That was the most disappointing thing I've encountered in warframe so far.

>Same tileset as Sargus Ruk

>Except it's a bit darker

>Level 25 mission kill 3 or 4 groups of fugitives on the way to sargus ruks room

>Then kill wolf in sargus ruks room

>extract

>Get 10 nitain

>Level 75 mission

>Kill 3-4 groups of fugitives along with the wolfonly need to do like 10% damage to him and he disappears, it's trivial

>Then kill wolf in sargus ruks room

>Extract

>Get riven and cosmetic

Wolf is now affected by CC abilities, he may be affected by status procs too, I don't know. He still scales like crazy so when I was in squad of 4 people he was level 112 and could probably go higher. He still drops parts so you can just run the level 25 mission if you need it or the cosmetic.

Can you play as a loli?

>>16456210

How squint?

>wolf sledge heads over and over

great, thanks