075824 No.16344962
So have you beat it yet? Because I SURE HAVEN"T!
How well does that mask scale?
Which combat arts are best?
Who is best waifu: Kuro or the Divine Child?
464886 No.16344966
464886 No.16345025
075824 No.16345032
Link to old thread >>16329019
3d79d4 No.16345033
I'm just here for the keks.
9250a5 No.16345201
>>16344962
>So have you beat it yet?
Reached the final area in NG+. I'll probably do a NG++ for the bad ending and then a fresh run for the best one. Seems I missed a lot of shit in my first run, namely loads of eavesdropping chances.
>Which combat arts are best?
Probably Ichimonji though if there was ever one that saved my ass was Dragon Flash for the Owl rematch that I missed in NG.
075824 No.16345219
Was it just me or were the centipede guy and the the guy that wandered in from Dark Souls the two easiest mini-bosses in the entire game?
7fb643 No.16345229
>>16345219
Centipedes are easy because it is just a rhythm game. They only have that rhythm attack and then a perilous sweep to jump.
7fb643 No.16345235
>>16345229
Oh actually one of them has a ranged fire throw but it never happens since you are right up in his face.
481da6 No.16345238
this is the only rice game allowed around here
a6db79 No.16345240
Fuck off back to reddit with your soulshit.
075824 No.16345241
What drops Divine Confetti? Preferably something pre-Genichiro.
182618 No.16345243
a6db79 No.16345246
>>16345243
>Actually enjoying simon says: the game
955999 No.16345249
>>16345240
welcome to /v/eddit.
2afa27 No.16345251
>>16345246
Nigger are full mad about Sekiro, it's hilarious.
This game is stealing all the thunder of DMC5.
a6db79 No.16345253
>>16345251
>muh lighting enemies on fire
Suck off a shotgun
075824 No.16345254
>>16345238
I really want to play this game. It's still coming out isn't it?
182618 No.16345255
>>16345246
>>16345249
>>16345253
>Being a newfag tryhard nigger chimping hard
Keep being mad
9250a5 No.16345256
>>16345219
Don't forget the game's Pinwheel - Mist Noble. But yeah, that aside, Centipedes are very easy.
>>16345241
The blue samurais in Ashina Castle. Ring the Demon Bell to increase drop chances.
4bbeb6 No.16345261
Still got a way to go. Currently bumbling around Mibu Village. I sent the samurai to the dungeon, I don't really know why. I usually try and RP and get immerse in these things but I sent him there just to see what happens.
075824 No.16345262
>>16345251
If you're (119) then please try to contain your autism and spaghetti. Sekiro is a decent game but it does have its flaws and it's not quite properly balanced yet.
>>16345240
>>16345246
>>16345253
>I_deliberately_entered_a_thread.jpg
955999 No.16345270
>>16345262
This thread reeks of cuckchan and you deserved to be bullied for it.
74fe13 No.16345275
Does this game lack the charged attacks they added in DS3? If so I may try it out
a3703e No.16345276
>>16345261
well what happens?
481da6 No.16345277
4bbeb6 No.16345279
>>16345276
He sits in the room you can't access, you go back when Doujon leaves and eavesdrop. He talks to his master about this samurai being suitable for the waters. One of those crow guys also told me I would regret it.
a3703e No.16345283
>>16345279
Sounds like you signed a death warrant
5c6d15 No.16345284
>>16344962
お米があるだ!おいしいね!女子はチチが何だか小さい、でもまた好きだよ。
4bbeb6 No.16345286
>>16345283
I didn't feel good about it. I could have sent the fat monk but I ended up spiriting him away.
075824 No.16345289
>>16345279
You can continue that questline further. You can also send Kotaro there insteadYou monster.
02e2f3 No.16345315
>>16345249
> /v/eddit
anon cuckchan is that away >>>/reddit/
1fbe69 No.16345317
>kuro
>waifu
OP is a fag degenerate and deserve to be bullied saged and hanged by the neck until dead.
2ac64b No.16345326
>>16345251
>Relatively short game that was made after 11 years of franchise stagnation that essentially relies on deep dedication and autism to keep rolling beyond a few weeks, star players of the game like Donguri only have small fanbases
Versus
<A game that came out a few weeks later, hot on the wheels of one of the biggest gaming memes of the decade, constantly played in one way or another by speedrunners and lorefags with fanbases of millions
I wonder what kind of man would want to draw such a comparison.
Anyway, even speedrun fags won't really be able to draw it out for too long since it's painfully obvious it always plays the same way. Dork souls could be played with different weapons and builds at least.
2afa27 No.16345340
>>16345326
Meanwhile
>old ass virgin IP
vs
>new chad IP
And who wins?
Someone should do the meme.
>Dork souls could be played with different weapons and builds at least.
Same for Sekiro, m8.
a6db79 No.16345348
>>16345275
The game has only R1 spam for meaningful offensive options. If you liked that about DS3 you will love it here.
2afa27 No.16345358
>>16345348
More lies from the butthurt crowd.
I spam axe.
df6abd No.16345369
>>16345254
>2018
>its 2019 already
a6db79 No.16345371
>>16345358
I thought you spammed fire mister (119)?
2afa27 No.16345376
>>16345371
There is fire axe too.
df7a61 No.16345380
>>16345340
>Sekiro
>Different builds
Topzuz m8. Every tool has specific uses and if you go around spamming them you're just burning spirit emblems. Seriously who the hell would think spamming shurriken on 80% of mooks is a good idea. Same with the flame thrower or the spear. The best tool for regular mooks is the whistle since it ACTUALLY augments your stealth capabilities ie giving you the simple ass knock on wall ability in something like MG. Let's not even start on combat artes since those are waaay too situational especially the end tier ones apart from maybe High Monk. Even Ninjutsu feels kinda gimped since why the hell would you not use blood smoke apart from the two instances where Puppeteer is useful.
This is all coming from a guy who actually really likes Sekiro but the parts of Dark Souls that cling to it really drag it down hard. Where with something like DMC the franchise history only really uplifts it.
Honestly why would your combo moves aside from maybe mortal draw be tied to an expendable resource? I don't even mind the idea of shinobi tools having a resource cost but it just boils down to having certain tools counter certain bosses with the exception of maaaybe the the fire cracker.
Tl;dr Sekiro has pretty shit "build" variety not that you should be doing anything other than sneaky ninja anyway
0d9b35 No.16345428
Why are people so asshurt over this game?
2afa27 No.16345429
>>16345380
> Every tool has specific uses and if you go around spamming them you're just burning spirit emblems.
Which refills when enemies die.
>Seriously who the hell would think spamming shurriken on 80% of mooks is a good idea.
I spam axe tbh.
>Where with something like DMC the franchise history only really uplifts it.
LOL, leave that to the future.
>Honestly why would your combo moves aside from maybe mortal draw be tied to an expendable resource?
Sabimaru, axe, spear, flame, ichimonji, whirlwind slash…you name it.
You have the basic combo, augmented by 03 tools and one combat art that might or might not combo with these 03 tools. Not DMC tier but more than enough.
2afa27 No.16345432
>>16345428
It's new and it's good.
People can't accept that.
027bdb No.16345434
>>16345428
People being LE EBIN TROLLS xD, people who's game was not their cup of tea and now they get autistic over a game they don't like being praised, people who genuinely are butthurt they can't git gud, people with sour grapes because they can't play it in their toasters. Pick whichever you want.
c7c0af No.16345440
>>16345428
nu/v/ thinking they need to shit on every new From game just because soulsfags are cancer.
b58623 No.16345442
>>16344962
>Which combat arts are best
Ashina cross is best. It fucking pierces guard.
Just get the skill that lets you do combat arts in midair so you can sheathe your sword while dodging something with a jump and then punish them with a unguardable instant double iai slash when you land.
It's even useful in general exploration since its actually strong enough to oneshot(depending on your attack upgrades) basic enemies like the standard samurai unlike most other limp dicked combat arts.
2afa27 No.16345449
>>16345442
You mistaking Ashina Cross with Ichimonji?
The fact there is a wide preference of combat arts means the whole no build variety is bogus.
b58623 No.16345453
>>16345449
No i mean the ashina cross where you sheathe the sword and then hit them twice with it.
2afa27 No.16345457
>>16345453
I always feel Ashina cross is less verstile than Ichimonji (the art comes before it) because Ichimonji double can be done TWICE, faster and costs no emblem.
2afa27 No.16345459
Anyone feel we need a feudal samurai RPG after this game?
The japanese mythos and setting is fucking top.
Now I want to play Way of the Samurai.
6ac160 No.16345463
>>16345428
they getting casual filtered real hard
and they can't accept that
918fe1 No.16345466
>>16345428
Probably because it's a very mediocre game that's fanbase is extremely vocal in the LMFAO GIT GUD excusing the absurd amount of faults with it. It's a specific set of fromdrones pushed hard by what can only be extremely effective marketing by activision.
884066 No.16345468
>>16345201
If niggas nigero, niggas never die.
b58623 No.16345471
>>16345457
Ichimonji does less damage and enemies can block it.
With ashina cross you'll always do vitality damage while fucking with their posture and the actual attack part comes out faster as long as you sheathe the sword mid-jump
The emblem cost is irrelevant in most cases, unless you really need to use a ninja tool for a boss.
0d9b35 No.16345475
>>16345463
I'm waiting for the torrent to finish.
>>16345466
>fanbase is extremely vocal in the LMFAO GIT GUD
Considering how sjws and others keep fucking up so hard in this I'd say it's well deserved.
884066 No.16345477
>>16345284
何を言いやがってんだよ、てめえ。
胸はぺったんこの方こそが魅力的だろう。
2afa27 No.16345479
>>16345471
Not ALL enemies can block an ichimonji.
But yeah, I haven't tried Ashina cross too much.
918fe1 No.16345480
>>16345475
I don't know about that, the prevalence of the "SEKIRO IS TOO HARD EZ MODE PLS" articles reeks of activision wanting to push that narrative. It'd make sense when you know you can push a culture around a game as opposed to the game itself, especially when the game has low staying power for your investment like sekrio does.
2afa27 No.16345482
DMCfags are mad because Kuro is more fuckable than the rest of DMC5 cast.
2afa27 No.16345484
>>16345480
But the game is already outliving DMC5…
2ac64b No.16345485
>>16345428
>People point out the game's objectively subpar and restrictive
<L-lol butthurt
It's the other way around. (119) autists pulling every little argument they can because From can do no wrong.
2afa27 No.16345488
>>16345485
I think From deserves SOME sort of praise of managing to destroy Souls stagnation with a new GOOD IP, yes.
Everyone thought it's gonna suck ass.
dc6446 No.16345489
>>16345434
I was under the impression that it was optimized fairly well. My russian friend who plays on a GTX 640 is getting 25-30 fps.
918fe1 No.16345493
>>16345488
It does suck ass though? And they reuse a ton of shit from DS3, mainly the enemy targeting AI which is why stealth is a broken mess, the AI can easily be baited into loops, and why it plays the same damn souls death sound effect.
aa0d85 No.16345494
>>16345488
>Everyone thought it's gonna suck ass.
Nobody thought that
2afa27 No.16345495
>>16345493
No, I don't think it sucks ass at all.
>>16345494
Plenty do.
0d9b35 No.16345500
>>16345485
This is one of those games where it makes people become salt elementals.
c28a70 No.16345501
>>16345428
I haven't noticed much, I have a beef with the title Sekiro doesn't mean anything to most people and thus was a bad marketing decision. Shadows die twice by itself is better even. I look forward to playing it one day when it is reasonably priced with all dlc included in some type of final edition. Most players who bought it brand new are likely justifying their somewhat expensive purchase and those who are butthurt probably can not afford and are a tad bit jealous or disabled plus sjw. Happens all the time. Souls games can be beaten without leveling up quite easily with practice, they are essentially memory games and quick time reactions without the prompt.
dc6446 No.16345506
DLC where you play as the Scultpor or Isshin in their glory days fucking when?
Something like the Jetstream Sam story for MGR would be nice.
b58623 No.16345518
>>16345506
I want DLC to be of the rice ending where you go on a journey to the west roadtrip with the Divine Best Girl of Rejuvenation
bbed54 No.16345537
just finished it, homecoming ending gotten without looking it up, didnt even retry against the last boss lightning reversal being this strong.
Really gets too easy the moment I've killed a couple of bosses, struggled a lot more against Hirata's drunkard than any other bosses, getting ground into my mind how I should actually play the game. Granted the few gulps avaliable at that point didnt help either. Most fights boiled down to:
- learn pattern for phase while chugging to stay alive
- figure out how to effectively counter than pattern using tool/move
- clear phase without chugging as much, rince and repeat
Another shame was that almost all bosses except 3-4 have no more than 2 Deathblow hp, few fights drag on to be a real challenge of endurance and memory, even the final boss's 4 phases turn out to be a little disappointing, only the Demon of Hatred gave me a run for my money and when I finally beaten it I didnt even die once.
I dont see myself doing another NG but NG+ looks better than I thought it would. Not having to worry about faggot builds allows me to focus on the combat first and foremost, which is great. Buildfaggotry in Soulsborne while fun for repeated playthrough just ruin the combat balance you get in sekiro. In souls you have weapons that are completely useless against most bosses but usefull against others, so ideally you just carry a couple of situational weapons meant to deal with the different threats you face, except the upgrade system cucks you out of that. Only Dark Souls 2 allowed for a reliable way to get various tools and even then you'd get cucked by soul memory. In Sekiro not all tools works against all enemies but your baseline sword is your main way to combat so there is no problem getting upgrades and trying them out, instead of being cucked out of a NG because your faggot ass upgraded the saw spear to +9 and finally dropped the Rakuyo and blood chunks being rarer than pope shit unless you're willing to grind endgame cancer enemies at which point why even bother getting a playstyle if you can only use it about 2 bosses away from the end of that NG cycle? However its certainly going to affect the game's longevity coupled with the lack of multiplayer to meme on with cancer builds, but as a result they built perhaps the thighest combat system I've seen in the last 5 years. Replaying Nioh afterward feels sloppy and slow.
Overall its pretty good, I'll play it again.
6469f5 No.16345547
So where is all the porn of that cute shota?
075824 No.16345562
>>16345547
Don't worry there's already some with new stuff being made every day. Same is true for Rice Girl.
75e34e No.16345581
>>16344962
Ye
Never used it despite working to get it.
Ichimonji Double is pretty good for certain minibosses.
Kuro of course.
dcd5ab No.16345602
e031a6 No.16345677
>>16345240
>muh artisanal imageboard is too good for fromsoft
323ec7 No.16345680
Just reached the antechamber of the ashina castle. I'd like to ask why the english VA for the big samurai guys is this super hammy faggot who keeps yelling in my ear.
Lord Kuro is shit. I'd rather Emma.
7fb643 No.16345690
>>16345680
Jap VA seems to be superior for most of the characters. They seem to take it more serious in terms of tone. There are a few of the characters that I think are better in English though like Anayama the peddler and I think Kuro and Emma. English Emma has kind of a lisp that doesn't really fit well and Kuro sounds just off. There is also a miniboss later that is an actual englishman that is better in English dub obviously.
25dbe5 No.16345697
>>16345680
>playing dubbed
25dbe5 No.16345698
How long did it take you guys to finish it? I think I found almost everything and all side-bosses etc and came out at just slightly under 28 hours.
323ec7 No.16345699
>>16345697
The last thing I want to do is read text while in combat, which ends up a moot point anyway because the sound mixing is terrible and I end up having to read text anyways. I eventually just turned the dub off and since I hadn't downloaded the jap voices I'm playing in silence.
075824 No.16345704
>>16345690
> There is also a miniboss later that is an actual englishman
ROBERTOOOOOOOOOOOOO
945246 No.16345757
>>16345698
CLose to getting into the Fountainhead palace and i'm 50 hours in, mind you i grind a bit and explore as much as i can
bbed54 No.16345766
>>16345704
I wonder, he was tasked to deflect a thousand blades. What happens if you attack him a thousand times?
db9386 No.16345780
>>16344962
I honestly don't understand the asshurt this game caused, every death I had was because I messed up and I felt that, it was obvious to see the mistakes I made and get better
5eeb04 No.16345786
>>16344962
Divine Child is cute but is probably filled entirely with centipedes inside
Kuro is your lord,thus you are oathbound to pick him whenever possible but he is a guy so its kinda gay
So the best choice is to pair them up as a father figure so that you get cute grandchildren that may or may not be monsters.
d72c43 No.16345805
>>16345428
>Why are people so asshurt over this game?
Because woke hipster journalists like to fancy themselves as having their fingers on the pulse of the industry. Their very careers depend on this perception… and in such positions, they have a paid megaphone by which to push their social agendas. Which is all they're really after. They don't care about games. Along comes FromSoftware and starts to make games that get a reputation for being hard, because they require practice and mastery to make progress in. Those games have become a phenomena, and it's locked out journalists and hipsters from experiencing (and being able to comment on) a cultural phenomena.
This drives them nuts, being on the outside looking in on what they think is supposed to be their territory. Especially at this point where journalists haven't even bothered with the pretense of having an intern play the games for their footage, and have shown their true lack of skill - leading to widespread criticism and calls to git gud or git fired.
It's basically hitting all the right fucking buttons, at just the right time. So now they're crying and demanding an easy mode so that they can be a part of this phenomena and be at the center of attention again. And they're crouching the whole thing in the language of "accessibility" to save face and turn their own insecurities into the only thing they really know how to do - social activism.
d72c43 No.16345807
>>16345786
>but he is a guy so its kinda gay
Traps are fine too.
2c8ba8 No.16345820
>>16345698
I finished it 100% in about 70 hours.
>>16345428
The number of niggers we've had in threads crying that they can't beat the Shinobi Hunter or Chained Ogre is fucking embarrassing.
323ec7 No.16345822
>>16345820
Who was the shinobi hunter though? I don't think I've found him in the hirata estate.
ff6754 No.16345829
I have to say Sekiro has been really great if only to reveal all the dumbasses who are more than happy to expose themselves as butthurt casuals the moment something challenging is put in front of them.
2c8ba8 No.16345832
>>16345822
The spear miniboss, Enshin of Misen.
352b0c No.16345841
Is the reward from luring the nigger down to the dungeon worth it? It doesnt seem that great to me at all so im just wondering if the reward from not doing that would be better. Currently struggling with snake eyes, headless and that floating terror orb spammer. The latter I think I can easily kill once I muster up the patience to run around for 15 minutes. Feels like im missing something. What is the deal with the confetti and snap seeds? Dont want to try the headless too many times because I have limited confetti at this point. Should I use a snap seed at the locked door in the dream/memory/past or is it something ill be able to pass later? My hoarding mentality is fucking me over
6c1e65 No.16345844
>finish NG after nearly perfecting Isshin
>feeling cocky but not sure if NG+ will satisy
>shove the charm up Kuro's boipussy
>nuking every jap in sight, perfect the Ogre, figure I'll pay the first Headless a visit
>TERROR TERROR TERROR TERROR
Hooray for suffering
2ac64b No.16345845
>>16345829
It also revealed all the dumbasses who are completely willing to eat up bad design, lackluster content and variety while saying it's up to par with souls, brain-dead stealth while saying it's a good ninja game. It's all fine because it's hard, and any criticism just comes from a butthurt casual. That's not quite as pathetic as demanding an easy mode, but it's still some reddit-tier cocksucking.
6c1e65 No.16345847
>>16345845
Name a better ninja game outside arguably NG Black.
0d9b35 No.16345850
>>16345845
This game really made you salt.
>>16345820
I've been playing my seven seas copy for a few hours and the game isn't really that hard nor is it the horrid mess some here are making it out to be. But either way the butthurt this game is causing is really making this spring season fun.
945246 No.16345865
>>16345841
>locked door in the dream/memory/past or is it something ill be able to pass later?
You haven't met Owl yet have you? explore the rest of the state.
The Snap Seeds are useful against Lady Butterfly but you don't really need them, as for the confetti i'm in the same situation, i've tried fighting the Headless but so far that has just been a waste of confetti.
000000 No.16345873
>>16345841
Once you can fight the blue samurai guys you can farm confetti so you can fight the spirit bosses. I don't think I ever actually used snap seeds once you can beat lady butterfly easy enough without them.
9d07c4 No.16345918
It's bad enough that he has an effeminate girly appearance, but his voice actresses could have at least tried to make him sound like a boy. Even hacks like Tara Strong like in Ben Ten are capable of producing a boyish voice.
945246 No.16345920
>>16345918
>not liking effeminate young boys
In any case isn't that normal? boy characters with female VAs
7fb643 No.16345921
>>16345920
It's normal but you're not supposed to be able to tell. That was one of the main reasons I think the Jap VA for Kuro was better. The English one was just so blatant.
945246 No.16345925
>>16345921
I wouldn't know, i never use dubs
7fb643 No.16345926
>>16345925
Not even for NG+?
51dee4 No.16345955
>>16345841
You just get a jizo statue after a boss if you let the nigger live.
b7dc50 No.16345959
>>16345238
any release date?
and more importantly any PC port announced?
b7dc50 No.16345963
>>16345428
>activision publish game
gee i wonder anon
4bbeb6 No.16345964
>>16345841
Snake Eyes hates Ichimonji, try and get Double Ichimonji too. The terror orb guy hates confetti, it buffs your weapon with spirit damage and it destroys his orbs and HP. I don't know about the Headless, they fuck my shit up and I just don't bother, though this was before I tried the confetti on that orb guy so maybe that is their weakness too.
b60446 No.16346025
>>16345865
Oh fuck so thats where you got the key, I met him before I started over in a new game but I blasted through it so fast and had so much new stuff unlocked I completely forgot about him. Figured I was missing something obvious
>>16345964
I was experimenting with that move, wasnt really finding much use for it. Thanks for the tip. I never used confetti on the orb guy, explains why I wasnt doing a lot of damage.
323ec7 No.16346027
>>16345832
That was a boss? I thought that was just something to remind you you had that thrust stomp counter.
b60446 No.16346030
>>16346027
It's very possible to encounter that guy before you even have skills unlocked.
676a00 No.16346055
>>16345428
Literal scrubs who are stuck on a boss/mid-boss for the first time in years, posing as indignant, objective critics of the game because of rectal injuries. Hilarity ensues.
4bbeb6 No.16346060
>>16346025
You can pop some of those terror medicines but honestly his orbs are easy to avoid and his AOE is obvious to get out of there.
e0e5e9 No.16346101
>he only went to (14) this thread
The absolute lack of stamina.
534bd1 No.16346130
Guys, after finishing the game and killing Issin at the first try and demon of hatred at the third, I have realized the most difficult enemies are those centipede-infested monks that can't move. Can't even get close to them, only way I can kill them is with fucking shurikens.
676a00 No.16346164
>>16346130
Just dodge and attack, then dodge the grab and spam attack lmoa.
abd6f2 No.16346187
>>16346055
>he fell for the (((journalist))) memes
7fb643 No.16346196
>>16346130
>>16346164
There isn't even any point to killing them is there?
bf444f No.16346211
>>16346196
They drop a sugar item that uses emblems instead, you can use confetti to end the fight quickly. The ultimate cheese strat is the lilac umbrella.
1da329 No.16346213
>>16345850
The hard thing about this game is that casuals and braindead people (journos) cant summon a squad of goons who will aggro the boss and kill it for him, now they have to face everything alone with no chance of getting any kind of help.
I find sekiro easier than solo DS1, DS3 and NG+ DS2 (only NG+) but harder than any of those if you use summons.
bf444f No.16346217
>>16346211
For some reason I thought you were talking about the headless, ignore that.
380e6b No.16346245
>>16345518
>DLC
Nah fam, give me Sekiro 2.
Also give me more Divine Child porn.
83487c No.16346286
I couldn't even get the CODEX edition to work correctly, it had to be run in administrator mode to even startup and when after you hit new game and watched the intro movie it crashed instantly. I tried updating my drivers and shit but I already had the newest version. Also it kept trying to run on my integrated graphics card until I tweaked the application settings in the NVIDIA app.
0d9b35 No.16346309
>>16346286
That's weird as it's been working like a dream for me.
323ec7 No.16346347
Genchiro was quite a fun fight. I really liked it.
94d1fb No.16346382
4bbeb6 No.16346387
>>16346286
The CODEX versions I got were miners.
Also, is reaching the bottom of Ashina Castle a spoiler? There is the door behind the general which doesn't open and the door by the water where that Headless is waiting which also doesn't open.
e5e6fe No.16346395
>>16345429
>Which refills when enemies die.
Fuck you, Spirit Emblems merely drop on death by chance unless you want to use the Mibu Balloon that increases their drop rate, using prosthetics actively merely just hurts you in the long run especially if you consider the cost of some of them. Then consider that you also have a limited stack of Spirit Emblems in total, so if a boss is acting as a roadblock and you're trying to beat it while using expensive Combat Arts and/or Prosthetics frequently, you'll eventually run out of Spirit Emblems, and because you died so much you'll have no gold anymore to buy them with, which means you'll just have to farm moar. You could buy them at bulk at the start of the game when they just cost 10g a piece, but this requires some meta knowledge about emblems raising in cost as the game goes on, because the price does not reset on NG+ cycles.
No matter how you put it, having the resource for using all your cool abilities be a limited resource in a game where progress saves after death is fucking retarded, just imagine what it would look like if your healing gourd didn't refill on rest but would be limited just like the Pellets. Just being able to carry only like 15-20 emblems at once with little hope of reasonably recovering them (against boss fights) makes me want to use them sparingly, as there's no reason why spirit emblems couldn't have been a finite resource that filled up the more you killed or deflected or something, so you could earn emblems back in the middle of combat.
>I spam axe tbh.
Slow piece of shit that's only good for plinking against regular mobs and certain mini-bosses, as using it in the middle of a mob (where it would be the most effective) will just let everyone poke you to death while you are doing your wind-up animation, while not doing enough damage to justify the risk, and shield enemies overall are very rare. Against bosses it's more of a placebo as sticking to the katana while being aggressive will let you kill them faster, and Ichimonji is a safer and cheaper alternative to the Axe against bosses anyways.
You're under the impression that there being a sizeable amount of options automatically means they are all viable; they're strictly situational as katana will work just fine for about everything and even kill enemies faster than if you were to use prosthetics. It's like the subweapons in Mega Man: very good against bosses with a specific weakness, but overall you want to be using the Buster because subweapons ain't cheap.
98047f No.16346396
my advice to anyone who is in the early/mid part of the game is to not worry about the headless/terror orb dudes for now because they're a pain early on and a cakewalk later, especially when you've got the mottled gourd/oodles of confetti. Apparently the latter can be cheesed with the anti-air deathblow text you get from based blackhat rat but I have yet to get it to activate properly because the game's targeting/lock-on is beyond aggravating in certain parts.
406bb0 No.16346399
>>16345428
Because they're shit at the game and want a "I win button" to play it for them.
67c640 No.16346405
>>16346387
>is reaching the bottom of Ashina Castle a spoiler
Not really, no. You end up opening those doors before the end of Ashina Castle as a sort of shortcut if you explore and find all the stuff down there but if you don't they aren't necessary.
75e34e No.16346407
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>>16346396
Yeah the Shichimen can be cheesed with anti-air deathblows but only if you don't get hit by their oodles of orbs. The real easy way to deal with them and the Headless is using the lilac umbrella. Blocks their terror attacks while letting you get close to attack them with it. That's how I cheesed them all.
aa0d85 No.16346440
>>16346382
No, fuck off back to cuckchan. Faggot.
aa0d85 No.16346444
>>16346187
>implying kikes can meme
aa0d85 No.16346446
>>16345963
They also published Tenchu and Sekiro started out as a Tenchu game so…fuck off
3c1a06 No.16346455
I'm trying to collect those mask pieces because I'm a masochist and I want to know what it does. Where's the left part of the mask? I can't remember if I saw it at one of the Mobs or not.
>>16346396
>but I have yet to get it to activate
Glad I'm not the only one.
b60446 No.16346472
>>16346455
Go check out the carp scale merchant
3c1a06 No.16346489
>>16346472
That's the right side of the mask. I also have the piece from the Memorial Mob in the abandoned dungeon.
b60446 No.16346500
>>16346489
There is a 2nd merchant
4bbeb6 No.16346541
>>16346405
I thought I did explore Ashina quite thoroughly, must have missed that area entirely then.
462427 No.16346543
>>16346395
Spirit emblems stack up pretty high though, especially if you’re playing well and not wasting chances to use arts
I’ve got like 600 of the fucking things in storage
3c1a06 No.16346551
>>16346500
What the fuck. And I just used up all the fucking scales I had because I bought all the stuff in his store thinking I'd get something for it.
98047f No.16346553
>>16346543
yeah, I'm near the end of the game and literally maxed out the storage capacity. They're so prevalent that it almost makes you wonder why they bothered putting a random number limit on them in the first place as typically killing a few fools weill bring you back up to full.
That said in some of the mini-boss encounters I can see why it matters.
2c8ba8 No.16346567
>>16346551
You didn't spend all of the scales from Fountainhead Palace too, did you?
b58623 No.16346570
>>16346395
dude you can effectively turn your flask charges into extra spirit emblems if you really need to.
The ceremonial Tanto lets you get 5 extra emblems up to 3 times per rest for the low price of some HP, like bloodbullets from bloodborne.
I have never once been unable to do something because of a lack of spirit emblems after killing the ghost faggot
aa0d85 No.16346572
Which merchants sell Divine Confetti?
What drops it?
aa0d85 No.16346573
>>16346570
Need divine confetti and purple umbrella to even attempt that.
b58623 No.16346575
>>16346572
the samurai at the top of ashina castle drop it.
All merchant start selling it once you beat the real corrupted monk
b58623 No.16346577
>>16346573
>purple umbrella
you can dodge his attacks you know
>confetti
just anti-air deathblow him when he jumps 2 times and he's dead
aa0d85 No.16346585
>>16346575
>the samurai at the top of ashina castle drop it.
Fucking blues, god dammit, of course.
eaaf79 No.16346607
>>16346347
Funny thing about him, you can actually defeat him in the prologue, I did so in NG+. It gives you a different cut scene but nothing else as far as I'm aware. He is pretty fun and well balanced in my opinion, specially considering the point of the game you fight him. Probably one of the example of better bosses in the game that fit the style it is going for.
4bbeb6 No.16346614
>>16346585
I did a little farming run there last night. Its quite easy, you can stealth kill most of them. When all the screens are broken down it gets a bit harder.
aa0d85 No.16346621
>>16346614
I still really dont like those blue assholes.
3c1a06 No.16346633
>>16346567
No, I only just got there now.
eaaf79 No.16346651
3bc20c No.16346661
I haven't finished it, the game is surprisingly long but I'm on my way.
Ichimonji Double seems to be best one so far but I haven't tried any of the Senpou arts.
Btw is there an ending where I can have both of them perform hot sholicon sex?
a4c547 No.16346691
Anyone have a working torrent of the current build?
b58623 No.16346720
>>16346661
In one ending kuro penetrates her and she becomes pregnant
aa0d85 No.16346756
603c36 No.16346766
>>16346661
I haven't found a lot of mileage out of any of the combat arts.
>>16346720
Bravo FromSoft.
038dd3 No.16346777
>>16346661
High Monk's first hit is a direct upgrade to goomba-stomping sweeps. Put it on when you're fighting bosses
83487c No.16346778
>>16346691
I second this anon's request.
98047f No.16346782
>>16346766
>combat arts
I used the ichimonji double most of the game with varying degrees of success. At times it would just devastate enemy posture and other times barely did shit but by god it felt good to use and when you smacked someone ""just"" right and flattened them it was pretty fucking sexy.
All in all, the game really lets you become a shinobi master when you've got the mechanics down. Perfectly timed blocks combined with opportunistic slashes turn fights into probably the most fun I've had playing a samurai in a while.
eaaf79 No.16346792
>>16346661
>>16346766
I think that is one of the flaws of the game right now. Posture is very important, particularly in NG+, and Ichimonji is just too damn good. Damage, decent posture damage and posture recovery, it is too good. It let you keep on the offensive and can tear bosses a new one when used right. I think if I were to fix this, I would change how you recover posture faster. Instead of blocking without taking hits to recover, I would make it so you recover faster by hitting the enemy, only when it is a direct hit (good amount of recovery) and a blocked hit (small amount of recovery), with enemy parries not recovering posture at all. Perhaps nerfing or nullifying the posture recovery of Ichimonji. This way it would encourage the player to be more aggressive, give other skill more use, and still punishes the player that doesn't deflect right. Just like stamina in Bloodborne, the way posture works for the player character seems counterproductive to the overall offensive gameplay the game seems to build around. Having to back out of a fight to recover is kinda shit, and that's what makes ichimoji so valuable.
53b598 No.16346796
>>16346691
>>16346778
there's a fitgirl repack on google drive that's only 9 gigs.
aa0d85 No.16346803
>>16346782
Does Ichimonji translate to Helm Splitter? Because that's what it is. Ever try to do one from the air?
5eeb04 No.16346832
>>16346803
It translates to "straight line"
Which,also works as a descriptor for helm splitter.
And the bad ending gives you Judgement Cut in NG+ so you can get pretty motivated
53b598 No.16346886
>>16346832
I always love how the rank style meter slightly goes up
aa0d85 No.16346902
9250a5 No.16346933
heh
>>16346395
My modest two cents, I think doing certain actions with emblems should refund their cost like getting a kill with a shuriken, breaking a shield with the axe, stripping armor with the spear etc. Basically, if you use them "adequately", it's a freebie. Other things like combat arts that cost emblems not charge them if you get a counter hit or something. Basically, the game could allow for a bit more fun.
075824 No.16346949
>>16346447
Now post the correct shota.
53b598 No.16346984
>>16346933
This needs to be viral
075824 No.16347021
>>16346577
>just anti-air deathblow him when he jumps 2 times and he's dead
It doesn't work on him on less you have the confetti buff.
7f5e6b No.16347085
How do you deal with the snake eyes the one outdoors grab attack? I cant consistently dodge it, if she decides to use her grab attack im screwed but if she doesnt im completely tearing through her. Sometimes dodging to the sides works but most of the time im sucked back into it. Getting dark souls 2 flashbacks here
eaaf79 No.16347094
>>16346803
>ever try to do one from the air?
Shit, after reading it I tried it out. Surprisingly effective and stylish, it is best done after kicking the enemy,specially those that use low unbockeable attacks after a combo or a big hit like the ninjas, you reduce their posture greatly while recovering yours and dealing even some damage with luck.
Also it looks stylish as fuck A shame you cannot charge the attack on the air
eaaf79 No.16347097
>>16347085
That fucking attack is weird as shit. You can actually Deflect it for some reason. I mostly jump backwards, as it seems to be the safest way, always get fucked if I try to dodge due to the weird timing. Sage for doublepost.
9250a5 No.16347099
>>16347085
I just jump away the moment I see the kanji. Overall, her moves have really odd hitboxes and timings.
e5e6fe No.16347103
>>16347085
You normally avoid grabs by jumping backwards, though in Snake Eyes' case her grab is the only one in the game which you can actually deflect if you feel ballsy
7f5e6b No.16347108
>>16347097
What the fuck, do you take any chip damage from doing so? Ill try it out in a sec
>>16347099
>>16347103
Quickly gave up on jumping it because it wasnt a sweep attack but ill try that out, can you make enough distance if you jump backwards or do you already need to have some distance? Im hugging her so her long ass rifle always misses
eaaf79 No.16347116
>>16347108
No, 0. It is a Deflect, so it basically perfect parry, but if you only block you will get grabbed.
e5e6fe No.16347123
>>16347108
jumping backwards usually creates enough distance, though against running grabs you need to time it properly when they're just about to grab you
ab9dcc No.16347126
>>16347097
>>16347103
>>16347116
Eh, I remember blocking the second part.
>spooky kanji
>she reels you in
>short delay
>swipes at your feet
eaaf79 No.16347136
>>16347126
Maybe you can block? I was fighting her just a couple of hours ago and I tried to deflect that attack, the block effect, that yellow/orange light, appeared, the one where you almost parry, appeared but I got grabbed. I'm playing NG+ without charm, so maybe it has something to do with it.
75e34e No.16347184
>>16347085
Spam Ichimonji Double
075824 No.16347253
>>16347085
If you go part way down the bridge she'll deaggro and you can come back for a sneak attack if you've got some green sugar.
000000 No.16347279
>>16347085
I don't think any other boss gave me as much trouble. Legit spent spent hours trying to get passed her for some reason but once I got it down I fucked the other one up really easily.
676a00 No.16347369
>>16346187
t. (((journo)))
8b847b No.16347384
Why is Sekiro not a "Soulsbourne" game? It does the same as bloodborne, follows the template set by Demon Souls and adds a few of it's twists.
Don't get me wrong I hate the whole "souls-like" definition but it's pretty clear that Sekiro is as much of a "souls" game as bloodborne is.
Why is everyone acting like this one is so different? I've beat it twice, it feels like a faster paced take on the formula, which I find funny because it doesn't do much with it.
Is it because this one doesn't have a stamina bar?
075824 No.16347387
>>16347279
>I fucked the other one up really easily.
I fucked the other one up real easily because I drew her out into the poison swamp and hid behind a Buddha until she was at zero health.
000000 No.16347399
How does the divine child give you rice? Is she giving you raw rice? How the fuck does wolf eat it then?
>>16347387
When I got there I was thinking about doing that but I ended up just beating her easily so I never got the chance.
7f5e6b No.16347404
>>16347116
>>16347123
>>16347184
>>16347253
>>16347279
Beat her, she only tried the grab attack twice during the whole fight and jumping backwards worked. Her weapon did clip through my body doing so, feels like something went wrong. Still dont know if its a grab or a sweep attack.
075824 No.16347405
>>16347404
>if its a grab or a sweep attack
Yes.
3a0a8a No.16347422
>>16347399
He eats it RAW
If you do a side quest in Senpou Temple, Kuro makes you candied rice balls, it's a very cute scene and it's an extra healing item.
ab9dcc No.16347437
>>16347422
>rice tastes better if you cook it
SASUGA, WAKA-SAMA
000000 No.16347438
>>16347422
Eating it raw would give you a wicked stomach ache and probably make you really sleepy.
075824 No.16347444
>>16347438
>Eating it raw would give you a wicked stomach ache
FUCK YOU I CAN EAT ALL THIS RICE.
3a0a8a No.16347453
>>16347438
Not if you're a badass cyborg ninja from the Sengoku era, who probably eats raw rice straight from the paddy all the time
e5e6fe No.16347483
>>16347404
It's a grab with the animation of a sweep attack because :^)
380e6b No.16347487
Owl is pushing my shit in on NG+. Not even the second go around, regular Owl at the Castle. Demon of Hatred seemed easier than this, jeezus.
4bbeb6 No.16347489
>>16347384
It is one, people who say it isn't are wrong. The interconnected world, squishy playable character that can barely take damage, losing XP and currency upon death, same questing system with NPCs, hell even the font is the same as DS3.
075824 No.16347512
>>16347384
>>16347489
Sekiro is basically a skeletonized Soulsborne game. It's one that's been stripped down to its most minimal state.
Contrast Nioh which is a Soulsborne-type game that has been stripped down to it's most minimal state and then subsequently rebuilt back up into something rather different.
39847e No.16347525
These headless things are total niggers and I have no idea where the fuck do I get more confetti
e5e6fe No.16347529
>>16347489
>the only difference between Ys and Souls is the fact that you don't lose half your shit on death in Ys and that it's fast
well shit
>>16347525
You can grind moar from the blue guys in the Ashina Castle top, though skipping them for later isn't such a bad idea either, the only thing the Headless give you are useless short buffs which require emblems, except for the one which gives you a cloak boost and makes stealth easier
075824 No.16347531
>>16347525
If you wait long enough to make the high level tools you can get a confetti like effect for "free".
26611f No.16347654
Just started playing, should I restart so I get rid of this dragon rot mechanic that's been introduced?
918fe1 No.16347658
>>16347654
No, it does basically nothing unless you really want to play the From patented "talk to every npc at random times to get useless shit" quests
027bdb No.16347668
>>16347654
Dragon rot only reduces your chance on receiving unseen aid.
4bbeb6 No.16347670
>>16347654
Keep playing and talking to the right people. Things will become a bit clearer regarding Dragonrot. Worst thing it does is kill people so merchants for example won't be around if you need them.
25a8bb No.16347680
>>16347525
The headless are fucking bullshit to fight early, but you get multiple tools that make fighting them much easier as you progress through the game. Just come back later.
List of tools that help kill headless and other terror-inducing enemies: You can buy a Purple Gourd that renewably heals Terror. The Lilac Umbrella upgrade blocks their attacks without giving you Terror buildup and has a prosthetic attack that deals bonus damage to apparitions. The Malcontent's Ring stuns them for 5 seconds 3 times per fight. The final Flame Vent upgrade does high damage to apparitions and can be combined with Living Force (final prosthetic tree skill) to apply a short-lived Divine Confetti effect to your sword.
d72c43 No.16347697
>>16345428
FromSoftware should provide the Easy Mode that everybody is asking for by releasing a patch that unlocks "Normal Mode" which is significantly harder.
It was "Easy" the whole time!
ab9dcc No.16347706
>>16347697
or
>press F to sudoku yourself into credit roll with a disdainful looking Kuro floating across the screen
85b337 No.16347711
On hard difficulty you reveive damage when blocking attacks.
bbed54 No.16347726
>>16347711
well done dodging him but why werent you parrying him more than you did?
027bdb No.16347747
>>16347711
Doesn't that guy do chip damage even in NG?
9250a5 No.16347763
>>16347711
Magnet umbrella is really good for this spin - 4 spin deflects and he's done.
534bd1 No.16347912
>>16346396
Also you can use malcontent late game to stun apparition types up to 3 times per combat, making them a literal cakewalk.
075824 No.16347918
>>16347763
>spin - 4 spin deflects and he's done
aa0d85 No.16347922
>>16347094
I havent studied the move but I think it gives bigger posture damage than one from the ground no charge. You can also instantly swing the axe if you do it from the air too but I think with that there is a slight diminishing of posture damage compared to a wound up strike from the ground.
85b337 No.16348058
Am I the only one here who don't like Souls series, but love Sekiro and Nioh?
d95ddd No.16348116
>>16347711
That guy always does damage through block.
027bdb No.16348132
>>16348058
Eh, it's understandable. Sekiro and Nioh have a deeper combat system and are more action focused, Souls games put more emphasis on exploration and character builds.
a6db79 No.16348147
>>16348132
Sekiro's combat system is the exact same as soulshit but with less options. It's hardly deeper.
139737 No.16348166
>Sword Saint
It's inch by inch, but it's gonna happen.
75e34e No.16348190
I finally slew the Demon of Hatred. Still died less to him compared to drunkard and Isshin.
>>16348166
Speaking of Isshin, it takes a while but you can just keep running around the arena till he does his 3 slash attack. Then right as he finishes you slash him them get away. Keep doing that at least for the first phase and you can get through that. You can try to play it risky with the second phase and mikiri counter but that's up to you. Then third phase you can wait for him to do his lightning attack. Just redirect it.
Personally I just did the slashing him strategy for the whole fight.
cf8d3e No.16348200
>>16348190
why is samurai jack crying as mowgli feeds him plums?
75e34e No.16348204
>>16348200
He's had a rough few days.
075824 No.16348254
>>16348200
LONG AGO in a distant land, I, Ashina, the sword-slinging master of lightning, unleashed an unspeakable boss fight. But, a foolish shinobi warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to opposed me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in my own asshole and flung my grandfather back into the land of the living where Shura's evil is law. Now, the fool seeks to defeat him and save his 12 year-old boyfriend. What a gay lol.
a3703e No.16348278
im shit at the souls games and don't have the time to devote to them, but it looks like the combat in sekiro is much more interesting because you get to jump around like a fucking ninja instead of just rolling away all the time.
sucks, wish i was a NEET again so i could spend grueling hours trying to beat the only good games coming out nowadays
a6db79 No.16348361
>>16348278
>but it looks like the combat in sekiro is much more interesting because you get to jump around like a fucking ninja instead of just rolling away all the time.
I wish. One of the games biggest flaws is that if you try to respond to any attack in any other way than the single one the designers decided upon the attack will push your shit in even if it visually does not connect. It ends up being a glorified game of simon says.
fdef4b No.16348382
>>16348361
Haven't played but this just sounds like the pitiful cries of those without strength.
aa0d85 No.16348397
I've just been farming confetti all day.
After a while, and with the ninja zombie jutsu, they become about as hard at Ashina Outskirts guards.
aa0d85 No.16348407
>turn 2 guys into zombies
>they fight each other instead of the other guys around the room
God dammit why
a6db79 No.16348433
>>16348382
It's an easy game shill-kun. It's just a very shallow one.
918fe1 No.16348444
>>16348433
I'm still convinced activision "convinced" game journos to do the "IT NEEDS AN EASY MODE" push to create a culture like what happened with dark souls artificially.
3a034b No.16348518
this game makes my anus hurt in a way neither dork soles nor nioh ever managed to
f6f1fe No.16348560
>>16348444
Game is way easier than DS, I remember doing my first take on Sister Friede as a cleric, did like 60 attempts until I beat her no joke.
Sekiro last boss took me like 6 or 7.
I died a couple more times to the DoH until I realized I just had to chase him around to stay under him and tickle his balls with my sword.
NG+ with no charm and demon bell is a bitch but I'm liking it, not sure for how long tho.
Also I think the charm is not a buff or debuff, but actually just a show off mode, people say that it is the way it is meant to be played but I disagree, enemies do not take vitality damage from blocking your sword swings so why would you be taking huge chip damage from them? The bell demon already makes enemies like the chained ogre one shot you with a grab even at max stats and by the NG+ any benefit to drops/exp/money is pointless as you already must be filthy rich in all of these.
The issue with game journalists is that they can't skim through the entire game and post their review in day 1, or even week 1. That is the reason they hate words like "gameplay", they do not care about that, they want to review games like a movie or a book and be like art critics of it, the only ones who can appreciate whether a game has any value or not, based on ambiguous and subjective shit, e.g. "game as an experience" , not on real parameters like length, replay value or design.
6c1e65 No.16348565
>>16348361
Blatantly untrue since holding sprint and just running around like an idiot to get chips and back hits in is a thing for 90% of the fights, as well as jump kick antics with the goofy monk styles. I wish you faggots would go stew in your mediocrity with your fellow mulattoes somewhere else.
f6f1fe No.16348575
>>16348190
You can air senpu kick one of his unblockables and it will do like 40% of his posture right off. But it's hard to predict as it is a mix up from his Ashina Cross,
You can almost one shot Genichiro with a single senpou kick counter.
ab670c No.16348590
Alright, this game is a whole different experience on charm mode after beating it the first time. Not being able to block without taking damage makes it all the more essential that you perfectly time a deflect, which makes me actively avoid situations where I might have to block just to avoid the risk of taking damage at all. Every fight is becoming a hit and run situation, which is tedious but relatively effective.
I'm not sure if this is really what I'd call "fun" though.
25a8bb No.16348592
>>16348575
When Isshin sheathes his sword to do the Ashina Cross, if you move right up in front of him, right in his face, he'll do a blockable sword bash into the punishable sweep, 100% of the time.
f6f1fe No.16348652
>>16345918
Couldn't they just get a young boy, or what is the point of using females to voice boys?
There are plenty of boys with girly voices around, I think they just wanted to avoid child labor and auditions.
323ec7 No.16348660
Emma gets my dick hard. Her messy, unkempt hair, coupled by that weary cute face and a rockin' body that shows even while she's wearing that dress. God damnit.
>>16346607
I just liked the fight. It was long, it had a lot of mixups and long slash strings that you had to parry, I especially liked his second phase's thrust or sweep mixup, which fooled me a few times and then I realized the boss before ashina, the blue samurai man elite whose attacks were telegraphed by the glint in his sword, were the key to knowing which move he'll use. It was such a cool detail.
a6db79 No.16348666
>>16348652
Children don't usually make good actors.
e5e6fe No.16348783
>>16347085
P.S. For the Snake Eyes in the poison swamp, you can backstab her, quickly run back to the statue on the other side, and then wait until her health slowly degrades to 1 because she's standing in the poison swamp, after which you can finish her off
9250a5 No.16348833
>>16348660
Go to sleep, Isshin-sama. You're drunk.
4bbeb6 No.16348843
>>16348254
>tfw beat Tomoe Genichiro without deflecting his lightning
I couldn't do it right but it seems a very important skill to get proficient at.
b2b256 No.16348850
>>16348843
Not really. You use it for one bossfight towards the end of the game, where you have absolutely massive windows to do it, and you can use it during the last boss to kill him faster, but you don't have to since it's much easier to just sprint away from him when he does those attacks. there's also nothing to get proficient at, you jump into the electric attack and spam R1 in the air
b7dc50 No.16348870
>>16346446
>even a broken clock is right twice a day
>using a game from the golden age
try harder shill
db89f5 No.16348883
I made it past the blazing bull without buying any skills or using the memory attack power enhancements. Kind of stuck now, the spear assholes at the moonlight tower and the sword assholes destroy me. Parrying spears is hard and I'm bad at games.
db89f5 No.16348884
Forgot to mention I also beat the first set of goons and lady butterfly.
075824 No.16348889
>>16348883
That spear guy is a huge pain in the ass.
db89f5 No.16348896
>>16348889
Which one, the shinobi hunter from the memory or the one waiting at the moonlight tower?
219188 No.16348902
>>16348889
>>16348883
Get the Midori skill, dodge into his spear attack.
If you're planning on doing a skill less run, uhhh axe to interrupt?
0018cd No.16348915
>>16348565
This. A guy I know is playing the game like that, while I like to go in and just play the deflect game since I don't feel like whittling down a boss for 10-15 minutes. One might be less fun than the other but they're both valid ways to play.
2eda34 No.16348936
The one thing I really wish this game had is decapitation. It really struck me when the final boss knelt so I could kill him and his head didn't roll off. Do you think they were censored or it is some kind of technical limitation (I can't imagine not wanting decapitation to go along with the cool ninja kills)
304cf9 No.16348937
>>16348833
NO
Did I fuck up by using beads/memories? I just figured it was there so why not.
ee90f5 No.16348971
What's with Isshin-sama stepping out of his jobbing meat-mecha?
That shit's keeping me awake at nights.
0b56eb No.16349018
I beat the game pretty recentlyish. Feels good tearing though most things that give me some trouble.
I fucked up and missed the eavesdrop that gives you the Secret Owl fight
488216 No.16349025
Any good Memekiro porn???
no shotafaggotry please
e5e6fe No.16349039
>>16349025
Not a terrible lot, frankly
b84f16 No.16349041
Just True Owl and Demon of Hatred before i finish the game.
I've one shot everything thus far and fuck demon has me salty with its horseshit like "sliding tackle, then as you are getting up, turn around and firelane two shot you". The damage is just so fucking high you must have to do a near perfect frame dodging loop and getting the variants of moves down to kill him without taking more than a couple of hits for the entire fight.
Or theres some extremely easy cheese like "run around then at the end of each boss attack combo run in for three hits and repeat" like people do on the headless great ape.
At least its some variance after 20 odd dudes with swords or spears i guess.
ee90f5 No.16349042
>>16349041
>tackle
Jump to the side.
>fire lane
Immediately start hauling ass sideways and jump.
b84f16 No.16349057
>>16349042
Oh i know, but sometimes that little red icon gets obscured by his arm of hair as you are close up and circling so you get knocked down and lose 90% of your hp and then before you are up and able to move again as you hammer dodge just this wall of flame comes from off camera. Its just bad luck mostly. But boy does he have a bad habit of backing up into corners when you are getting aggressive enough to stagger him, then you back off otherwise the camera is trash for the stomps and then he flames you and i go 'well time for the umbrell-' but i have the malcontent ring on and burn out.
948c31 No.16349078
>>16348058
Couldn't get much into Nioh either, but. Sekiro fot sure.
948c31 No.16349081
>>16348147
It has more than rolling on the ground.
2a650b No.16349121
>>16345918
I can't believe From made a boy more girly than all the actual females in DMC5, was this on purpose
b84f16 No.16349137
>>16349121
Fun fact: Nobunaga regularly rodgered young boys and was regarded as a "noble shotacon" but that shit got Unit 731'ed out of Japanese history books.
5ab366 No.16349149
>>16349137
Wasn't Mori Motonari Nobunaga's favorite shota fucktoy?
aa0d85 No.16349163
>>16349137
Fuck off kike, nobody cares.
aa0d85 No.16349166
b84f16 No.16349168
>>16349149
>"M-my lord, your strategy meeting was a sound one, but must you really bounce that young boy up and down on your visible erection as your talk"
>"…..throw this man down the shinto well"
>"M-MY LORD PLEASE NO!"
and thats how japan was won.
198a1e No.16349240
Three things that bother me a lot about this game:
1. Divine confetti and the headless is fucking retarded, this is what people mean by artificial difficulty, you are arbitrarily blocked from learning the fight because you need some bullshit item to deal damage and the game won't let you buy it until close to the end.
2. Unseen aid is completely pointless and I can't imagine anyone ever giving one fraction of a fuck about some RNG ring of sacrifice.
3. It's way too easy to run past enemies and to get away from them, most enemies can't even pursue you past any obstacle that requires a simple jump, this makes speedruns boring as shit since you just run to the next mandatory boss for most of the game.
85b337 No.16349283
4bbeb6 No.16349299
Just reached Ashina Castle when things go wrong. Kind of bummed that Emma and Isshin have nothing to say regarding what is currently going on.
>>16349240
It being too similar to the previous games is my biggest complaint.
>>16349025
Just like the other Souls games and BB, there isn't a whole lot.
5aefdc No.16349308
>>16349240
>it's way too easy
WOAH ANON YOU SOUND A LITTLE INSEKIRO IF YOU ASK ME
aa0d85 No.16349342
>>16349240
>speedruns
Missed Reddit did you? Let me help
>>>/reddit/
555c16 No.16349366
>>16349149
That was Mori Ranmaru, regarded as a huge faggot even by the usual lords who had strapping young lads in their harems as well. Even Shingen Takeda said : "This is way too gay bro" when he saw how Ranmaru looked and clinged to Nobunaga and Shingen had an explicit harem of young boys and girls.
Ranmaru was like the fourth nephew from one Motonari's sons and he gave him to Nobunaga to leave him the fuck alone or something.
198a1e No.16349395
>>16349342
Speedruns are objectively the pinnacle of human achievement. Upvote if you agree.
b975e1 No.16349400
Is it possible/ do you gain much from stacking RTSR candy, attack candy, and a red lump?
100145 No.16349402
>>16349240
this game lends itself to speed runs because you can sneak past everything, doesn't mean it was made with the homosexuals speedrunners in mind, go play dustforce without glitches if you want to speed run somethig
198a1e No.16349406
>>16349402
If you turboautists hate speedrunning that much you could at least appreciate less retarded enemies that can block your path more effectively than not at all.
4366d3 No.16349427
is this playable with mouse and keyboard?
100145 No.16349435
>>16346245
reported for requesting CP
07acf6 No.16349440
>>16349402
Even engaging in the idea of speedruns is awful by itself, speedrunning is the sign of how far western society has fallen.
33d8e3 No.16349466
>>16346245
>Also give me more Divine Child porn.
9250a5 No.16349496
Gematsu copy-paste:
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice sold more than two million copies worldwide across PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC in less than 10 days, publisher Activision and developer From Software announced.
“Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice has brought something very special and unique to Activision’s portfolio of games. It’s been an honor to work with From Software to help introduce a brand-new franchise to gamers around the world,” said Activision vice president of product management and marketing Michelle Fonseca in a press release. “The fans have made Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice one of the most incredible game launches of 2019 thus far. The game has performed well on all platforms including PC and we’re excited by the continued support from gamers and critics alike. It has been gratifying to see the enjoyment from fans when they overcome each challenge.”
On launch day, Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice was the most viewed game on Twitch. The game also had more than 631 million minutes watched during launch weekend, and 1.1 billion minutes watched on Twitch within one week.
>>16348919
Probably the kappa thing about ripping the orb in which the soul is incased from the ass. Notice that afterwards he shoves it up his own ass.
>>16348971
The finale? Didn't get it at first but the second Mortal Blade can open portals to the underworld and Genichiro used his own body as the gateway to resurrect Isshin.
>>16349018
>spoiler
Well, fuck I missed that too. Actually, I missed a shitload of them now that I'm going through NG+.
Speaking of the finale, am I missing something or are some areas totally inaccessible in end-game? Mostly in Ashina Outskirts.
580f74 No.16349541
>>16349496
Here's hoping it gets the usual fromsoft DLC treatment. Way of Tomoe here I come.
c88784 No.16349555
>>>/v/16349517
>drawn
>CP
reddit called, they're looking for you
84644f No.16349556
>>16349517
You should start a charity to save all the 2D lolis. Won't someone please think of the cock-hungry imaginary kids?!
0b56eb No.16349560
>>16349496
I'm sure some areas are pretty much fucked by the time the invasion actually happens. Like how if you try to get to Ashina from the temple the tree branch is burnt, among other things
380e6b No.16349567
>>16349560
That might have been the Sculptor's doing.
139737 No.16349572
>>16349496
>franchise
I don't want this. Don't want Dark Souls 4 or Sekiro 2. Want more of this style of game with different settings and gameplay twists. Like Assassin's Creed, but not shit.
580f74 No.16349577
>>16349572
It's either that word or back to the shitty old "ip".
bcc078 No.16349578
>>16347670
Dragon rot actually kills NPCs?
139737 No.16349585
>>16349578
It doesn't kill them. Just makes them sick and their quests won't progress. Vendors even sell while sick, but some gain new stuff from doing their quests.
027bdb No.16349592
>>16349585
The vendor outside the temple still sells you stuff even when he's afflicted.
1106a3 No.16349601
>>16349572
I just want From to make a PVP/E focused online game with robots, monsters, ninjas, etc. If FROM made a GunZ but solid, balanced, and with good art.
9250a5 No.16349643
>>16349541
And once again, nip devs too busy with their eyes on the ground enthusiastically kowtowing to non-costumers can't see how to make a successful game. As for From, they're probably taking notes that getting journos ass blasted is the key to success.
>>16349541
Just remember - whatever comes, it's gonna make the base game easy by comparison. Maybe instead of poise and overblown magic resistance, the enemies are gonna be immune to firecrackers.
>>16349572
Likewise. From tends to shit the bed with sequels and this game's story wraps up nicely but I'd welcome a DLC or two and, ideally, a patch offering some more options, namely more combat arts readily available and ninjutsu swapping on the fly.
26611f No.16349649
>>16349585
Can you cure their sickness?
85b337 No.16349676
0b56eb No.16349683
>>16349649
Yes. Talk to Emma and she'll mention trying to find a way. It's actually pretty simple how getting the cure works
e8dec6 No.16349690
>>16349517
*Snap* Yep. This is going in r/cringe.
4bbeb6 No.16350020
>tfw did Shura ending
This shit is definitely for NG+, it cuts you out of a good chunk of the game.
027bdb No.16350035
>>16350020
You deserve it for betraying your cute shota lord
4bbeb6 No.16350061
>>16350035
The Iron Code above all.
tfw Sekiro didn't take Kuro's boipussy right then and there
61ca3d No.16350063
>>16350035
>>16350061
>You deserve it for betraying your cute shota lord
>cute shota lord
>cute shota
>Not just lord
Ban all homosexuals from /v/, kill all homosexuals.
0b56eb No.16350077
>>16350061
Owl stop posting.
621988 No.16350086
>>16350063
this, eliminate gays
075824 No.16350089
>>16350063
You know you can find a shota to be cute without sticking it in his pooper.
027bdb No.16350091
>>16350063
>Kuro isn't cute
9a195a No.16350106
>>16349643
I hope human enemies get firecracker resistance but sekiro gets some sort of unlockable anti-grab skill.
bcc078 No.16350118
038dd3 No.16350159
>DLC is a prequel to the Old Hunters
>Child of Resurrection and Wolf land in the fishing hamlet, hunted by the Minister
>Gehrman and Maria become major allies, Wolf and Maria fall in love
>Ministry and Bergenwerth stage an attack on both sides to get the Child
>Have to kill Maria
>Child of Resurrection dies on the beach to Minister
>Wolf completes Shura-ifcation after killing the Minister, becomes the Moon Demon
>Child of Resurrection's corpse becomes Kos, Kuro becomes the Orphan
>Wolf enthralls Gehrman and creates the Hunter's Dream to fulfill his master's wish of destroying the Blood
3a0a8a No.16350333
>>16350063
Kuro is cute though
100145 No.16350350
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I heard the game got an update already, i hope this shit hasn't been patched yet because i was about to try it
aa0d85 No.16350483
>>16350350
>that area map
Holy god
aa0d85 No.16350485
>>16350063
This
>>16350091
>>16350118
>>16350333
Fuck off you disgusting fucking kikes.
26611f No.16350501
>>16350483
It's just basic monster hunter shit
580f74 No.16350511
>>16349601
You want from to make some generic anime setting? Their whole reason for being great is because they don't do that sort of cheap shit.
555c16 No.16350525
>>16349496
So wait a minute…what you're saying is that the two people in the finale are pic related with pic related weapon(s)?
>>16349572
How do you expect them to learn anything? That aversion of learning from their mistake is what's killing From and cements them as the faggots and plebbitors favourite japanese company because their formula is so stale and shit beyond their first try. Sekiro finally tries to do something beyond a numbers game with buildfaggotry and it's still mediocre to ok at best, even with action veterans taking a bite at it, trying to make it seem cool to no avail. This is their one chance to do something good again and I'd rather that happens instead of seeing Dark Souls but with a different setting and a slightly altered mechanic this time.
Want a good ninja game? Hand out Sekiro 2 with a proper control scheme, more combos between tools and the katana, get the transforming weapons from Bloodborne and add that idea to the game, incorporate the grappling hook into combat as well, Toukiden 2 and DMC4-5 are excellent examples, upgrade the stealth and give it either stages like Demon's Souls or Nioh and drop that shit with the semi-RPG stats of the HP and memories. Either fully commit to it and have only the 40 beads and the enemies having a very set amount of health and your 20 memories that you only gain once but fully power you up and the enemies don't gain bullshit sponge ablities on NG+. It's either better AI and aggressiveness wit new attacks or go home.
3c623c No.16350548
I enjoyed this game immensely but it really grinds my gears when fuckers call it a souls game. Its not a fucking Souls game. Its not even as "hard" (Souls aint even hard) as those game so faggots crying for an easy mode pisses me off even more.
Its the same shit Onimusha had when fuckers called it Resident Evil in a ninja house (and yes I know it did start off development as a Resident Evil game set in feudal japan but still fuck off).
Anyway the game is good.
b84f16 No.16350555
>>16350548
Honestly you probably could just write it as a prequel to Bloodborne though. Right down to the fish dogs and blood turning people into red eyed inhuman beasts and a giant magical repitle connected to the waters that are filled with white glowing slugs that turn people into fish people.
580f74 No.16350560
>>16350555
They can't connect it to Bloodborne, mainly because BB is sony, Sekiro is Activision.
555c16 No.16350568
>>16350548
And yet the ultimate irony is that Soulsfags and normalniggers have no problem calling it a Tenchu successor, even if it started as a Tenchu-like game and ended up being nothing like that.
aa0d85 No.16350575
>>16350501
It's a shitload more areas than we've seen before. Look at all those paths. I had no idea.
aa0d85 No.16350578
>>16350568
>And yet the ultimate irony is that Soulsfags and normalniggers have no problem calling it a Tenchu successor
Pretty sure all those fags are calling it a Souls game.
3c623c No.16350587
>>16350568
You can feel its Tenchu roots with the satisfying stealth kills. It should have been just called fucking Tenchu and sold as a reboot of the series.
555c16 No.16350590
>>16350578
Nope. They are the loudest who yell that. Case in point : >>16350587 or just look up any Soulsfagtuber.
aa0d85 No.16350592
I'll add normalniggers do not even know what Tenchu is.
b84f16 No.16350608
>>16350560
Yeah i know, but it feels like they strongly intimate enough that maybe it wasn't always being released the way it is now.
>The Dragon, which isn't a dragon at all but the avatar of the everblossom, came from the West
>Its waters when imbibed expand the mind and transform people into catfish people
>Its blood in people causes a 'curse' that makes them regenerate but corrupt things around them
>The waters are full of white slug like things that cause wildlife to grow to monstrous sizes and grow more ferocious
>The land was infertile and infested with ghosts that the dragons arrival dispelled
>The Headless are all connected to water, their heads lost in deep bodies of it like the patients of the astral clocktower
>Foreigners come chasing the dragons 'power of undying'. The reason the great ones in bloodborne are infertile is because they attained immortality which -theres a scientific term for it i dont remember that equates to infinitely living entities having a zero birth rate lest they eventually occupy all space eventually so the older a species lives the rarer it produces viable offspring- and they came to earth seeking the pthumerians fertility in exchange for the power of never dying
>The Palace exists in a dream just like the fishing hamlet
Its not all one for one but the connections are about as close as they can get without Sony going "UHHHHHHHHH"
75e34e No.16350620
>>16350608
Fountainhead Palace is a literal place though. The corpse of, assumingly, Tomoe is what brings you to the Divine Realm. You get to Fountainhead Palace through the giant rope golem.
Really I think you may just be seeing connections within just the tropes of the narratives Miyazaki paints in his games. Or you could get crazier and say it's all a painted world made from the little girl from Dark Souls 3's DLC.
4bbeb6 No.16350621
>>16350548
But it is a Souls game. Onimusha was literally a Resident Evil game that Capcom wanted to be more action focused like DMC1 was. My biggest gripe with Sekiro is that it has too much Souls in there, I was hoping From would change things up more.
100145 No.16350626
>>16350587
Tenchu had few more deathblow animations though, actually lots more if you count the other ninjas.
Comparing both i just realized tenchu still holds up pretty well, for a 90's stealth game..or stealth has been stagnant for decades.
aa0d85 No.16350641
Wish the Mortal Blade could be swapped out for your regular sword. Would be cool to pick up the General's nodachis too.
1106a3 No.16350645
>>16350511
Yes, that's why I trust they could make a good PVP game.
aa0d85 No.16350648
>>16350511
It wouldnt be the first time. Look at the art style of Evergrace.
d72c43 No.16350654
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16350621
>I was hoping From would change things up more.
This is what happens when From "changes things up". Careful what you wish for.
It's the Dark Souls of VR Adventure games
52655b No.16350658
>>16350511
>t. "fan" of fromsoft who only knew them from dark souls
100145 No.16350659
The game leaves plenty of holes in the lore, like the whole relationship between Takeru and Tomoe and the origin of the Dragon Blood, it is not clear if they are descendants of the bloodline or they initiated it by having fish sex and Kuro was somehow conceived by someone with dragon blood that is neither of those two because they had died long ago
Also the game explains stuff as if everything had happened centuries ago and yet apparently Genichiro knew Tomoe himself.
Also how did Isshin become Lord of Ashina if he doesn't come from the same bloodline (if he knew Tomoe then he was supposedly then alive at the same time as Takeru since both died together)
Owl had the branch from the Sakura tree and yet it is explained in its description that Takeru himself cut it to take it as a parting gift contradicting what Kuro and Emma said about it being stolen.
This lore is a clusterfuck.
>>16350620
>The corpse of, assumingly, Tomoe
What
b84f16 No.16350663
>>16350659
I think a few things based on the progress of the story and certain npcs suggests theres going to be dlc thats less new endgame area and more stuff to do after beating Genichiro for the first time. The red eye stuff, the old lady talking about hatred in ways beyond just teasing the demon and the old man and his buddha.
I would expect those two for example to give us more bells to use at the statue.
139737 No.16350665
>>16350659
The dead woman at the shire you pray to start the dragon fight.
3c1a06 No.16350702
Guys I'm stumped. How do I get to this spot? I see no way to it. I just got the dragon tears and I want to explore this place entirely.
aa0d85 No.16350712
>>16350702
What spot? The highest platform? Maybe climb the large pagoda beside it.
The area below you? Jump.
100145 No.16350721
>>16350702
You cannot reach it from the first half you first need to open the palace doors from the other side and do some hookshot action from above the cliff to get there, you can find clues in the lake
3c1a06 No.16350725
>>16350721
Thanks. Can't believe I missed that.
aa0d85 No.16350743
>>16350721
IN the lake? You can dive?
3c1a06 No.16350769
>>16350743
>You can dive?
yes
enjoy your underwater segment
efc3ca No.16350794
Question for anons who beat the game more than once, is NG+ and further worth it?
I'm on NG+ and I'm steamrolling through everything, it seems to only be worth it for completing all the skill trees and to get the last 2 upgrades for the prosthetic, am I missing something?
I was thorough on my first playthrough and got all the important items I believe. As for the endings, I've seen all of them on my first playthrough by having a backup of my save, I settled on the one where Kuro spiritually impregnates the divine child using her and the dragon's tears as lube
918fe1 No.16350824
>>16350794
No there's no reason to NG+, nothing changes other than you have some skills and can actually max your tools. Enemies do more damage but their patterns don't change, so it's.. really dumb
075824 No.16350873
>>16350654
>It's the Dark Souls of VR Adventure games
It's actually the Bloodborne of VR Adventure games.
aa0d85 No.16351044
And now the thread dies a slow death and we won't be allowed to make a new one until it is gone. No other game seems to get this treatment. Bump limit used to be the sign to make a new thread but I guess things have changed for some reason, or it's only this game being moderated against by our fat resident filthy kike.
5c6d15 No.16351069
>>16351044
Nigger, if you've got something to say, then say it. Why do you need a new threat? Why do you need that new thread to be at the top page? What difference does it actually make? There's a search function, if anyone is interested in talking about this game, they can use it to find this thread.
3c1a06 No.16351134
>just got to the hatred demon
>three health bars
God damn it this is going to take a while.
>>16351044
People can use the catalog ya know.
75e34e No.16351163
>>16351134
Use the arena to your advantage. Run around him to the right. When he whips his arm around 2 then slams, you have an opportunity to attack. Start of second phase, use Sabimaru to poison him just to get a chunk of health off. Repeat first step.
What you gotta look out for is the fireballs, homing idols, and fire circle followed by a charge.
075824 No.16351187
>>16351044
Well we'll just make a new one once this one reaches page 13. It hit auto sage within two days of being made so people are clearly still interested in discussing it.
7fb643 No.16351194
>>16351163
To add to this. Put on divine confetti between phases. Save malcontent for phase 3. It stuns him for a very long time so make sure you have divine confetti active. You can only use it a total of 3 times though so save it for phase 3. Phase 3 is basically free if you use malcontent and confetti.
efc3ca No.16351222
>>16351194
Wait does he count as an apparition type enemy? Damn that would've saved me a lot of time… him and the Owl were the most difficult bosses for me.
7fb643 No.16351226
>>16351222
Not sure exactly. I know confetti generally helps with most enemies if only just a little but it does quite a bit more damage to him so maybe. As far as Malcontent goes I think he is classified as a beast maybe?
75e34e No.16351238
>>16351194
Confetti only does an itty bitty bit of extra damage. Don't prioritize it unless you're sure you have time to safely apply it.
7fb643 No.16351243
>>16351238
Not true at all. Of course you shouldn't be using items if you aren't safe though. That goes for gourds too. That's why I said put it on between phases. With how many hits you have to get in through the fight confetti helps a great deal with your DPS for the demon.
5c6d15 No.16351703
>go to fountainhead
>kill all the fish people
>diving expedition to get items
>meditate among the cherry blossoms
>kill that faggot purple ghost
>swim past giant fish
<what a faggot, hope i never see him again
>meet old grandma who say something like "blah blah please help my father stop feeding the fish" or whatever
>find her dad who is a monster or something
>that nigger soulbound to feed fish
<fuck it
>decide to ring bell
>fish comes
>gibs it tasty bait
>???
what's the point
7fb643 No.16351719
>>16351703
Carp scales. Give him 3 bait in a row.
5c6d15 No.16351721
>>16351719
so are the unlimited as long as I give bait? i noticed dogs can drop bait sometimes
7fb643 No.16351724
>>16351721
Don't think so. Not really sure though.
f6f1fe No.16351846
>>16350659
Takeru, tomoe, isshin, the sculptor, Owl, Doujun and Genichiro, knew each other for a long time already.
The intro movie and a clue written in the abandoned dungeon hint at Takeru apparently leading a rebellion to take control of Ashina, it is presumed that Owl, Isshin and Orangutan worked for him, later Genichiro was born, he was trained by Tomoe, when Takeru and Tomoe died Isshin was left in charge.
Emma who is younger did not know Tomoe or Takeru hence why she only remembers stories about them.
Takeru and Tomoe died in the ritual, yet it is unclear who then assisted Takeru with his suicide since in the purification ending path it is said she died first, so it was probably Owl, since he had the branch of the tree that Takeru had cut.
Kuro was raised by the Hirata, vassals of the Ashina, who in turn had adopted Kuro at a young age and his origin is not truly explained, but it was no secret that he was the divine heir so perhaps he was actually a descendant of Takeru that he or Isshin sent away in case shit went down at the castle.
Even an habitant of Hirata tells you that they would normally be under the protection of the Ashina but the timing of the attack was too perfect and caught them defenseless.
Kuro managed to escape Owl and was probably then rescued by the Ashina later that night.
It puzzles me who rescued Wolf ultimately or how he ended up being thrown in the well and treated as an enemy, i think Wolf was probably too depressed to give a fuck and Genichiro did not want him to be protecting Kuro from his bullying.
Another thing that goes completely unexplained is the second mortal blade, and also why Isshin upon revival, does a 180 and now shares his grandson goal of saving Ashina by any means necessary.
f6f1fe No.16351861
>>16351703
That is curious, the only ol grandma I found up there just wanted the palace doors opened so she could do an important task, or so she said because upon opening the door she rushes inside and kills every single alien inside and just dies right after, with her last words being "give my father back"
3c1a06 No.16352114
>>16351703
Talk to the pot nobles. They give you bait because they want to become a carp themselves.
I don't know how to actually help the father though, because I gave the giant carp the bait from the pot guy from Hirata estate and now it's just gone. I thought I had to kill the carp or some shit.
Did I just give the wrong bait if I wanted to help that old lady save her father?
3c1a06 No.16352119
>>16351861
>the only ol grandma I found up there just wanted the palace doors opened
You walk straight up to the other one when you get to the second sculptor's idol. You shouldn't have missed her.
4bbeb6 No.16352308
I really wish I didn't do the Shura ending, my options now are to redo the game or do NG+ which will be more grinding against inflated HP and damage values. Fuck me.
9250a5 No.16352387
>>16351226
He talks about Malcontent when you craft it. Likewise for the Slender Finger, it belonged to his shinobi bro.
>>16352114
Go to Guardian Ape's idol and you'll find the carp dead there. Retrieve the whisker and hand it to Deep One dad.
Bait is irrelevant. Both kill the carp and the other noble. The surviving noble inherits the inventory of the one who died.
This game's quest lines are rather obtuse IMO.
efc3ca No.16352433
>>16351846
Kuro is the one who rescues Sekiro, as for why he's thrown in the well probably because they thought he had something to do with the attack.
Isshin's 180 and the second Mortal Blade seem like such an asspull but I suppose it is explained within the lore maybe.
9250a5 No.16352473
>>16352433
I'm making shit up but maybe the revived Isshin comes with the mindset he had at that point in his life.
56f617 No.16352549
>>16345488
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice? More like Suckiro: FromSoft Can't Create a Good New IP Twice
380e6b No.16352596
>>16352114
Go to the place where the fountainhead waters pool, in Ashina. Then, after that, return to the father.
380e6b No.16352599
>>16352433
>>16352473
Isshin just wants to fight. He doesn't care about Sekiro, Kuro, or even Genichiro all that much. It's kind of an asspull that Genichiro can just summon Isshin, but Isshin's willingness to pick fights is just that.
efc3ca No.16352628
>>16352549
Pic Related
>>16352596
Fountainhead Palace is comfy as fuck
075824 No.16352769
>>16352599
>Isshin just wants to fight. He doesn't care about Sekiro, Kuro, or even Genichiro all that much.
So it's Nobunaga all over again.
58ede1 No.16353008
>>16352433
The second mortal blade is talked about way in advance, if you talk to or eavesdrop on Isshin. It's never really explained I don't think, but at least it doesn't come out of literally nowhere at the end.
027bdb No.16353027
>>16353008
There's also a document talking about it in the rooftops of the Ashina castle, it's called the Black Blade.
075824 No.16353037
Maybe the whole thing's a test by Isshin to see if Sekiro has any of Shura in him?
b84f16 No.16353069
Well i've gotten every item, got every skill, i'm at 19 attack and it caps and 20 and i have nothing left but get to that soft cap for attack and kill Owl before the ending. I cannot imagine how fast NG+ is when you know whats where and how much you can skip.
Can you even get prayer beads in NG+?
58ede1 No.16353170
>>16353069
Attack does not cap at 20. In fact, you get repeat boss memories in NG+ and keep upgrading from there. You do NOT get repeat prayer beads, there are 40 beads in the game and that's it. If you miss one you have to find that specific one. Minibosses you've already killed drop coin pouches, and hidden prayer beads are replaced with Bundled Jizo Statues.
5c6d15 No.16353224
>>16353069
attack caps at 99, if you get the dragon mask you can trade skill points for attack power.
3c1a06 No.16353247
>>16352387
Where are you supposed to find Malcontent's ring though? I can't upgrade my whistle finger now.
b84f16 No.16353276
>>16353170
>>16353224
People ran the numbers and you start with a hidden stat value of 4 for damage, first upgrade increases by 25%, second by 17%, third by 13.5% and so on 20 is the soft cap where the numbers start to get screwy and it can bug and actually reduce attack.
075824 No.16353632
>>16353276
>20 is the soft cap where the numbers start to get screwy and it can bug and actually reduce attack.
Well I hope that get's fucking fixed in a patch.
3c0d63 No.16353649
>>16351044
>Bump limit used to be the sign to make a new thread
This is not true at all.
380e6b No.16353870
>>16353247
Go to the Posion Pool in Ashina Depths and go past where the Snake Eyes was.
5c6d15 No.16353932
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Movieblob made a bideo bout easy mode
<1:30
>dark souls is a granular super hard hack and slash game, beloved by people because they're super hard
>they also have a nice aesthetic and lore which is locked behind the aforementioned difficulty
<1:50
>this brings up the question, "would these games benefit from an easy mode"?
>uncharitable representation of the argument
>"others violently reject the idea on the basis that challenge is what these games are about and circumventing that is missing the whole point"
>rebuttal: so what?
>I genuinely don't understand why this doesn't begin and end with, "if the developers want to include one they should, and if they don't then they shouldn't" the end
<2:49
>nothing will be removed from the game, you still get to keep your hard mode so, you should celebrate the fact that games are a medium in which this kind of inclusivity can take place
>games are toys, they're not a big deal, if you don't only use them as a way to wind down from the stresses of life, then the implication I am making is that you are a sad individual, even though I am pot calling the kettle black
<3:49
>beating a game on hard is an achievement, but it's not like that really means anything anyway because you don't get any real world tangible benefit from it, so why do you care whether or not someone beats the game on easy
>diatribe about participation trophies and meritocrasy
<5:24
>back in the early days, we didn't practice until we got good, instead we cheated because games were broken!!!
what a faggot.
3c1a06 No.16354073
>>16353870
>have to hit the dead ape's body again to REALLY kill it
Man that is unintuitive as hell. Had to look it up cause I was still looking all over the place like a dumbass.
075824 No.16354128
>>16353932
>Movieblob
>what a faggot.
No shit.
0447c1 No.16354155
>>16353932
Shame the Blob won't ever beat Sekiro and learn that all your hardwork is for nothing.
>No unlocks.
>No new areas.
>Not even a bonus boss that only appears after you beat the game.
After struggling with that shitty camera you'd think they'd reward you for finally conquering this bullshit.
075824 No.16354194
>>16354155
Got to save something for the DLC.
a36081 No.16354643
>>16353932
Clueless as always, like all of the (((journos))) he doesn't get it. This entire thing has less to do with difficulty and more to do with forcing developers to compromise their vision to appeal to the masses, something that has ruined countless franchises. Not every movie/book/song is for everyone, why should videogames be any different?
I'm not one to rely on arguments of authority but I find funny that despite the saltmines from the (((gaming press))) the game is still selling a lot.
I can't believe I used to take this guy seriously back in the day. I wonder if he'll become an hero someday…
de83b4 No.16354781
Is it possible to beat Nioh unnarmed? I'm trying to beat Maria right now and it's hard. You can't parry her during her second phase.
075824 No.16355009
>>16354781
>Is it possible to beat Nioh unnarmed?
Maybe. Definitely if you allow your self the use of onmyo and/or ninjutsu. Possibly if you allow the use of consumable items.
Have you speced yourself out by just learning passives from all the weapon skill trees and then putting all the rest of your samurai points into fist power?
6c1e65 No.16355022
Are any of the Mushin Arts good for bosses? For 9 fucking levels they better be
139737 No.16357304
>>16348660
>rockin' body
Sure? Can't tell what's under those three layers of clothing.
4bbeb6 No.16358540
Four endings is nice, but I can't see myself getting any more than two of them. Shame the game has nothing going on for its replay value outside of the endings.
ba43cd No.16359041
>Get the mortal blade
>Go back to guardian ape to fuck him up
>Cant
I fucking hate it when games expect you to make connections like that but often they dont work at all. Same goes for wording, one time its extremely specific and the other times you should take it as broad as possible. What about that skill that reduces posture damage from enemies with swords, is it just swords? Is it less posture damage in general? Is it just for enemies wielding weapons?
ba43cd No.16359160
>2nd guardian ape fight
>Faggot calls in another ape
>Figure this is where I use that whistle prosthetic I got from the 1st fight
>Lol nope doesnt work
ba89b2 No.16359545
>>16359041
>>16359160
The Mortal Blade should allow you to kill the Ape the second time around at least. Mortal Draw also does extra damage to the ape once its head gets chopped off. I think its type changes as soon as that happens. It goes from Beast to Undead/Apparition. I say apparition because Divine Confetti seems to give you a damage boost in the second phase as well. The second ape still counts as a beast so the Firecracker and just regular fire should still be effective. Finally, you can drag out the centipede from its neck stump with the spear. You deal a good deal more damage to it than to the headless body.
You bring up a good point. The whistle should absolutely work on the normal ape. Apparently that's not even the only instance of that happening with the whistle either. There are numerous instances of that happening sometimes due to a horrible translation (more on that further in this post) other times because of From itself.
The most prominent are probably the Loaded spear and Divine Confetti. Before you pick up the spear you can hear some guards talking about giving a guy in "ill-fitting armor" and saying that it could come off any second and almost the exact same thing is said in the description of the spear and that the spear can rip said armor from those people. This only applies to the fatties wearing a single sheet of metal over their bellies and no one else. There are about 2 to 3 of those enemies in the entire game, one of which is in one of the separate story quests so you can miss that one. Since they're also normal enemies, you can also just backstab them and they're not even tough in normal combat. This is entirely on From for making this weird and unnecessary mechanic.
The Divine Confetti on the other hand is entirely the translations fault. I think the description says something to the effect of; "Allows you to hit Apparition-type enemies", which isn't right. You can hit/kill every enemy in the game without it. If you've played Dark Souls, it sounds a lot like the Transient Curse effect but that's not what the Confetti does. The Confetti increases your damage to Apparitions. Not only to their Vitality but also their Posture. For some of the apparitions it's more effective than others. You can beat O'Rin, Corrupted Monk Illusion and Guardian Ape without Confetti just fine. The same can not be said for the Headless enemies. They're beatable but not nearly as easily as the others. The Confetti also allows you to break the slowing aura around Headless.
Overall, the translation is really poor. They changed lots of lines and descriptions and warped the meaning and intent of them significantly. In the JP version, Wolf is always respectful of Kuro as his Master and he maintains that distance between them even when Kuro is treating him as a friend and not a servant. The translation steps all over this simple dynamic in a few places. The worst one is probably in the memory before you fight Phantom Butterfly (her name is a separate issue). Wolf says to his master: "Leave us", pretty disrespectful. Then Kuro replies: "Who are you?" This isn't the first place they met at all. If you recall from the opening, Owl introduces Wolf to Kuro way before that point. Then Wolf says: "Go, Do what must be done." That doesn't answer his question. What has to be done? Who are you to command your Lord like that? The actual translation is more along the lines of: W:"Go" K:"But what about you?" W:"I will do what must be done."
There's a lot more like changing Ema's name to Emma for no reason. Changing "Phantom Butterfly" to "Lady Butterfly". The Folding Screen Monkeys fight has the name "Seeing Monkey, Hearing Monkey, Speaking Monkey," with that last comma being there as an extra hint for its gimmick in Japanese. That's without mentioning the Japanese history and mythical references they erased like: every mention of the Minamoto clan and their palace, Hakaisou monks, sokushinbutsu, ochimizu, etc.
9250a5 No.16359609
>>16359545
>That's without mentioning the Japanese history and mythical references they erased like: every mention of the Minamoto clan and their palace, Hakaisou monks, sokushinbutsu, ochimizu, etc.
Well, now I'm curious. I've noticed 'Minamoto' getting dropped and thought of the clan at first but then assumed it was probably the japanese word for 'fountainhead'.
ba89b2 No.16359712
>>16359609
That is actually one where I can kinda see why they changed it. It still loses a lot of the subtlety and real world significance.
"Minamoto" or "源" is the title of a noble house but it can also refer to a spring or source of water. So it's a bit of wordplay/double entendre in Japanese. The translation opted for the blanket term "Fountainhead" and removed the references.
This also has some influence on the story. In the Japanese version, it's fairly clear why no one else has entered the palace to put a stop to the Minamoto antics. It would have heavy political implications to storm the palace of a fellow noble house. It could start a huge conflict of people calling in their allies and attacking whoever attacked the previous house/clan until Japan is back in the Civil war era.
The translation kind of makes it ambiguous who/what the nobles are. This gives of the feeling that the nobles are a bit more disconnected from the story the they really are. I've seen some people think that "Noble" is just a nickname that people get when they are transformed by the Waters but in the JP version it's a bit more nuanced. It's also a bit less clear as to why no one stopped the Nobles before you showed up. Someone who is independent from a clan or house has to do it if you want to avoid large scale retaliation like I mentioned before.
Of course there's also the matter of the ceremony and needing to get picked up by the Shimenawa giant but Isshin could've probably figured something out on his own without the red tape surrounding the situation.
A bit unrelated but I'm also very surprised that there are people around that think this game takes place in a completely fictitious setting without any history. Even the translation still has some historical references. I think the first line even mentions the Sengoku era. That's like saying a game set in 8th century Germany where you talk to Charlemagne has no historic references because there's magic, Hildebrand is the final boss and a pair of Dis help you out in your quest.
9250a5 No.16359748
>>16359712
>A bit unrelated but I'm also very surprised that there are people around that think this game takes place in a completely fictitious setting without any history.
My interpretation of it was that the background is based on history (the Sengoku Jidai) but its players are wholly fictional. Also noticed they use a archaic name for Japan - Hinomoto - and IMHO it was a poor decision to translate that to 'Japan'.
But speaking of the story, do we ever kmow who's behind the coup? The "Interior Ministry" is named but they're always shadowy figures as far as I could tell. Also, the mon seemed very similar to the Tokugawa crest IIRC. Also also, it just dawned on me that Oniwa might be a reference to Honda Tadakatsu, at least the kabuto and weapon of choice.
ba89b2 No.16359967
>>16359748
I think the Interior Ministry is supposed to an interpretation of the Tokugawa Shogunate.
The Japanese version refers to them as "内府" or "Naifu". This term can be translated to "Inner Ministry/Minister" so the translation isn't too far off on that one. However the term "Naifu" is closely associated with Tokugawa Ieyasu who was awarded the title at the end of the era and he used the term as a sort of title for himself after that period as well.
I think it's the description of the Fulminated Mercury upgrade item that references that it was made with knowledge from overseas and that it gave the "central forces" much of its might. In case you didn't know, mercury fulminate was used in firearms though much later than this games setting. This very much seems to be a reference to Nobunaga and his forces' use of firearms. Another sign that this is supposed to be about the Tokugawa.
So we can reasonably assume that the coup is a reference to the war Nobunaga fought and the installation of the Tokugawa Shogunate.
You're onto something with your Oniwa/Honda theory. I personally feel that he's indeed based on the real life warrior but that would mean his allegiance switched. Honda was one of Tokugawas best generals so he should be with the ministry in that case. Fromsoft probably wanted just an excuse for a boss fight against a mounted warrior.
Also of note is the outfit worn by the ministry samurai. It sorta resembles the Takeda colors and their general aesthetic but again, that would mean allegiances were switched.
I'm not familiar with the Ashina clan other than that they fought the Date clan, lost and died before the end of the Sengoku era.
There's some other stuff I'm not sure of. The ministry ninjas have a purple trim which might be another Tokugawa reference but I don't have much confidence in that. Personally, I'm not really familiar with Shinobi myths and symbolism so I don't know if the left arm has any significance or if it's a thing for this game specifically. There's quite a few enemies/npcs that have something going on with their left arms like the ministry ninjas fighting without using their left arm and even covering it up. It could just be that this is a reflection of Wolfs situation but I'd rather speculate to much on this for now.
075824 No.16359975
9250a5 No.16360013
>>16359967
>This very much seems to be a reference to Nobunaga and his forces' use of firearms.
Yeah RIP Takeda cavalry. Side note, in the pre-release threads we were talking about contemporary fire arms and I as surprised to see hiya-zutsu made it to the game. And I wish we could use them, maybe like beat 'em up pick up weapons or, ideally, a rocket launcher arm prosthetic.
>You're onto something with your Oniwa/Honda theory.
It's mostly the kabuto and weapon that got me wondering. Besides, if this were a true Tadakatsu stand-in, we'd probably have to kick him down a pit like the gaijin.
All this talk and now I'm trying to think of other real life parallels, namely Hideyoshi in b4 Guardian Ape
>It sorta resembles the Takeda colors and their general aesthetic
Indeed. I'm kinda sad we can't get enemy armor, those red ones with the black capes and the jingasa look really cool.
>There's quite a few enemies/npcs that have something going on with their left arms
Took me a bit to notice the Divine Dragon was missing his.