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41e95a No.16281667
Hey fags, I didn't see a thread so I wanted to make one myself. Basically I know a guy, who knows a guy. In any case here's the next DLC pack. It's not like anyone's gonna believe it anyway, but think of it as a way to say "thank you" for the THQ shitshow.
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Ray (Custom Robo)
Crash Bandicoot
Rex (Xenoblade)
Banjo and Kazooie
>How many tournaments have you won so far?
>How many characters do you have in Elite Smash?
>Who's your main?
>Melee or Project M
201e9e No.16281671
a02286 No.16281684
>no doomguy
you need to leave
723b54 No.16281687
>>16281667
Ignoring OP's faggotry, anyone else hate the fact that you need to beat world of light in order to change the menu theme? Fuck world of light.
64754c No.16281688
>>16281667
>Fake leak
>Talks about Project M a mod made by known cucks.
723b54 No.16281690
64754c No.16281709
>>16281690
>Hi Mark.
I am not THAT Mark but oddly my name is Mark so its either a coincidence or your a CIA Nigger about to kick my door down for making a Loli in Dragon's Dogma.
b9ae45 No.16281743
How do I lose with K. Rool? He basically plays himself
f88d47 No.16281753
I recently played Melee and I can tell you Melee is a shitty, clunky, broken mess
It had a good run but it's time for it to retire.
8424df No.16281754
>>16281687
The greatest crime is not being able to change the shop theme to the Wii shop theme despite it being a track you can unlock.
4cafaa No.16281755
>>16281667
My Dad works at Nintendo and he says you're a lying niggerfaggot.
POST 'EM, FAGS
8424df No.16281758
>Wonder Red
>Doomguy
Are my realistic picks
>Hollow Knight
is my FUCK EVERYTHING I WANT IT pick.
9ac8db No.16281858
3d044e No.16282092
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>>16281667
Project M Current news:
>PROJECT+
There's a new fork for project M coming out next month Called Project+ (or P+ for short). The point of the mod is to polish up the game by fixing bugs that never got fixed before the shutdown and give the game a balance patch using data gathered from players and tournaments from 2014 and onward.
Don't care? Well here's the kicker:
It's being made by several old members of the PMDT. Making this build the new standard for tournaments and likely netplay as well (assuming they don't fuck it up).
Here's a list of changes that are likely going to be implemented: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qpwZ7kmiyAKm3prAv70DgGkSqN3-3H-EqSO8AvU8d9g/edit
The first tournament to feature P+ has already been announced, It's called "Don't sleep 3" here's a link for details: https://smash.gg/tournament/don-t-sleep-3-project-edition/details
(I hope these links work)
>LEGACY XP & TE
Embedded is a new trailer for the newly released versions of LXP and TE. Despite the lack of technical info shown, the trailer puts polish, filesize optimizations, and changes to characters like Geno, Waluigi, and Metal Sonic front and center. The trailer also presents a new debug mode feature that allows toggling knockback arcs to use while training, and finishes off strong with the introduction to a new hybrid build called "Legacy XP lite". This is a new build that will be updated along with the two already established builds moving forward, and was made to bridge the gap between Legacy XP and Legacy TE. The build features all added characters, and character changes introduced in legacy XP, but with a stagelist that is more akin to legacy TE. Great for for those who "just wanna play as waluigi, dammit!".
>OPINIONS
P+: I personally don't like characters being nerfed, and this is coming from someone who mains kirby. So seeing Project+ nerfing these top-tiers kinda annoys me, but it's really not a huge hit for the most part.
I'm still going to play it when it comes out for sure, and I'm overjoyed to see kirby getting a buff! but it bothers me a bit seeing all those unwarranted nerfs to donkey kong, and the removal of the bayonet hitbox on wolf's blaster.
Legacy: It's great to see these updates, I really have no issues with anything shown here aside from the lack of documentation on changes and additions, but it seems a bit stupid to release this build less than a month before Project+. They should've just waited for P+ to come out to add the balance changes to the new Legacy builds.
Either way, I'm super excited to play LXP lite, as it allows me to play LXP with a quick download, and without having all those shitty, buggy stages bloating up the stage select screen.
In other news:
Frozen Phoenix is on today and tomorrow, you can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP2mQ4FMS8o
There are a lot of good players here.
So what do you guys think about these new developments in the PM scene?
>Who do you main?
>What are you working on for self improvement in PM?
>What do you like most about PM?
>Favorite stage?
>Favorite builds/mods?
>got any cool PM clips you want to share?
>looking forward to attending any events soon?
Post more PM!
c71e29 No.16282100
>>16281667
>Rex (Xenoblade)
Not Homura, now i know your bull-shitting.
bcfef1 No.16282110
>my dad works for Nintendo tier start to the thread
Go away.
8865f7 No.16282159
>>16281758
Doom guys especially realistic with the new look and moveset for eternal. It screams "unrealistic enough weapons enough to get in an E+ game plus a hookshot grab" not to mention having some of the most iconic soundtracks in all of games for the music team to mess with.
Wonder Red is I'd say sort of likely as Nintendo and Platinum are buddies, and there wasn't a Wonder Mask mii outfit or assit trophy. If there was, I'd say it was a no. 10/10 good pick for how much moveset potential he would have.
>Hollow Knight
Unlikely as hell times 100 but good taste
cba59b No.16282182
>>16282092
>It's being made by several old members of the PMDT
Did they get over their fear of Nintendo's lawyers?
3d044e No.16282203
>>16282182
Not sure what happened on that front, but it seems that there's more to the story behind why they shut down originally.
There's a documentary for project M in development that will hopefully reveal what happened when it comes out.
bed1c9 No.16282216
>>16282092
>>Who do you main?
I'm a huge guy for playing Marth and ZSS. I usually play Marth in smash games and ZSS I liked in brawl.
>>What are you working on for self improvement in PM?
Following up in the air.
>>What do you like most about PM?
All the characters I play feel fun. It's not something that happens in most of the other smash games. There's of course clearly shit characters, but as a whole the characters are nice to play as.
>>Favorite stage?
Delphino secret is pretty awesome.
>>Favorite builds/mods?
I switch between Beef's Build and LXP from time to time. I really like PM Lucinashe's also my FE waifu, and I look out for modpacks that add her.
>>got any cool PM clips you want to share?
https://youtu.be/vv_x6I1l1mM
3 of the clips are sonic related
>>looking forward to attending any events soon?
Perhaps. I mostly play with friends.
590cce No.16282288
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>>16282092
So what kind of characters do you think would appear in the next major update for LXP? I have a suspicion that this moveset would make it in due to looking practically complete.
3d044e No.16282331
>>16282216
>mostly play with friends
is that so? Do you have some chat I could join to play PM? Sure smash ladder is fun and all, but I'd like to Voice chat with the dude i'm fighting, and if we're being real, the average PM player is a fucking wrongthink socialist from california, so I'd rather avoid conversation with them anyway.
anyway, I'm willing to make an account on whatever chat platform you use if necessary. You can DM me on twitter if you don't want random people here on 8ch to flood your shit. my twitter is @sauzeefy
39c3d2 No.16282350
>>16281755
call the cops I don't give a fuck
bed1c9 No.16282369
>>16282331
Naw, I just head over to my friends house or to some community center to play with friends. I will attempt to contact you, however.
3d044e No.16282380
>>16282288
holy fuck, this looks absolutely insane!
I never saw this before, but I really hope this gets added!
To be honest, I've never understood the reason why they added the characters that they added, like who asked for metal sonic? I'm not complaining, but where did that come from? The odd choices they made for the characters they added just makes it hard to predict who they'll add next.
3d044e No.16282388
>>16282383
i wouldn't mind. Though, I never played touhou, but it seems like a great premise for a fun, original moveset.
9a0d65 No.16282403
>>16282383
Fairly top tier. I raise you this.
ebee8e No.16282406
>>16282092
>It's being made by several old members of the PMDT
Why don't they work on modding Ultimate instead?
ebee8e No.16282421
>>16282403
Dante is the better choice tbh
1c95f6 No.16282447
>Sora
gay
>Ray
gay
>Crash
cool
>Rex
super gay
>Banjo
meh
3/10 leak
50b518 No.16282462
OP is a massive faggot.
ROUTINELY EXPECTED AUTISM LIST
FIRST PARTY:
>Excitebiker
Uses various stunts, tricks, and the bike itself to attack. Should be included as Excitebike is well-known, perhaps core Nintendo series and had tremendous influence with the NES.
Inclusion Rank: S (Unrepresented Series + Iconic Legacy)
>Takamaru
Uses a variety of Ninja and Samurai items and techniques. Should be included for it's role overseas in Japan with the Famicom as well as being a widely unique character all things considered.
Inclusion Rank: B (Unique Potential + Unrepresented Series)
>Heracross
Uses it's horn alongside a variety of Bug + Fighting moves. Should be included as the true representative of Pokemon's 2nd Generation. Fairly popular within Pokemon related media and advertising, bug-fighting also played a large role within Pokemon's creation.
Inclusion Rank: C (Gen 2 Mascot)
>Paper Mario
Uses a variety of partners, special moves, and hammer attacks. Should be included as representative of the Mario RPGs, which still continue to be widely influential to other RPGs.
Inclusion Rank: A (Highly Influential)
>Isaac
Uses a variety of elemental and magical powers. Should be included as representative of the GameBoy Advance Era being one of the first RPGs for the system as well as becoming a cult classic much like Earthbound has.
Inclusion Rank: B (Fan Favorite + Roster Variety)
THIRD PARTIES:
>Banjo-Kazooie
Uses a variety of cartoonish moves ranging from shooting and sharting eggs, to beak drill, to backpack grabs. Should be included as representative of the N64 Era and for perfecting and influencing almost every single 3D platformer or "Collect-a-thon" to come after it much like Super Mario 64. Would also be an indicator of Nintendo's history with Rare outside of DKC.
Inclusion Rank: A (Highly Influential + Unique Potential)
>DoomSlayer / DoomGuy
Uses a wide enough arsenal and playstyle to get away with not being able to use "realistic" guns. Explosive shotgun shells, chainsaw, plasma gun, BFG, Unmaker. Should be included as Doom happens to be one of the most influential games of all-time, skyrocketing the popularity for FPS games.
Inclusion Rank: S (Universally Influential + Iconic Legacy)
>Kunio-kun
Uses a variety of martial arts and street gang moves. Should be included as there no representatives of the "beat-em-up" genre as of yet in Smash Bros. Kunio not only has history with Nintendo, but remains relevant having titles developed to this day.
Inclusion Rank: B (Unrepresented Genre + Unique Potential)
>Rayman
Uses his unattached limbs to create unique animations and attacks. Should be included as one of the pioneers of early 3D platformers with Rayman 2. Still fairly relevant with games like Rayman Origins and Legends being widely critically praised.
Inclusion Rank: A (Iconic Legacy)
>Travis Touchdown
Uses an assortment of beam katanas which he can switch between to alter his gameplay style. Should be included as representative of whatever the fuck kind of game No More Heroes was all sorts of. Fairly popular within the mature crowd and helped pushed for more mature titles on the Wii. No More Heroes remains a game that showcased what the Wii and Nintendo's creative console designs could be meant for.
Inclusion Rank: B (Cult Classic + Fan Favorite)
3d044e No.16282478
>>16282406
probably the fact that they already made a lot of progress in PM development, the modding tools for ultimate are sparse and underdeveloped, it was also really easy to run PM on a hackless wii unlike the switch, ultimate already has shitloads of bugs in it, and existing modders are still having trouble re-implementing minor things like basic wavedashing.
TL;DR it's not worth the effort. Ultimate in unfixable.
50b518 No.16282519
>>16281667
OP's Faggotry Ranked
>Sora
More of a mix of Final Fantasy and Disney, he struggles to create an identity by himself.
Inclusion Rank: D (Copyright Issues + Lack of Identity)
>Ray Mk III
Struggles to maintain relevancy and fails to meet the same cult classic standards that Golden Sun, Chibi-Robo, or even Sin & Punishment have achieved. He's within the same category as Sukepon, only he managed to appear in more games.
Inclusion Rank: C (Fan Favorite + Relevancy Issues)
>Crash Bandicoot
Definitely iconic and popular, but lacks a history with Nintendo and shouldn't be prioritized over more iconic gaming characters.
Inclusion Rank: A (Iconic Legacy + Lacks Middleground Appeal)
>Rex
Faggot contemporary choice, not even worth explaining.
Inclusion Rank: D (But Not the Worst)
And Banjo-Kazooie I already mentioned, but they do have negative qualities as well. They struggle to remain relevant aside from cult classic outlets and fit within the "generic animal platformer" schtick. But the thing is, they do it so well and most every 3D platformer afterwards aimed to be a collect-a-thon in the same sense as Banjo-Kazooie rather than a sandbox obstacle platformer like Super Mario 64.
d955a5 No.16282593
List of 5 actual good choices
>phoenix wright
>terry bogard
>chibi robo
>nights
>marco
Medusa or viridi would be fun, but they would just get the echo treatment.
50b518 No.16282614
>>16282383
I'd say most people that aren't Chan users don't know very much about Touhou or that it exists at all. Flandre Scarlet might be the most well known, but that's only because of early memes of U.N. Owen was Her dating back to 2008 or so and who's to say if that's even remembered all that well. I don't exactly know how influential Touhou is either, to me it seems incredibly niche and to others I'm concerned it might come off as "generic anime" or "extremely weeaboo." I think there's potential there, but that can be said for a lot of characters. For someone like me, iconic status is what takes top priority between characters and then accounting for factors like genre variety or character variety. A lot of beat-em-up characters are very similar or generic for example.
7f10aa No.16282632
>>16282614
>For someone like me, iconic status is what takes top priority
>let's include Banjo and Kunio
590cce No.16282667
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>>16282380
I think it's because metal sonic was added to LXP pretty early in when there wasn't much unique moveset mods to work with, and right now it's pretty late to remove him from the roster, especially with all the work done to polish and balance him. At least now we are getting more quality moveset mods with how more advanced brawl modding had become. For example, this Dark Samus mod by the same guy who made Ridley in LXP that puts Ultimate's Dark Samus to shame.
b08ba1 No.16282670
>>16282632
Both are iconic, yes. Kunio not so well known over in the west but both are iconic
>Banjo is iconic mainly just for being a part of a lot of peoples' childhoods and being a Rare rep, which was part of what made DKC so good even though I would argue Battletoads is the far superior choice because it has the exact same merits
>Kunio because he essentially started up the beat-em-up genre as we know today. Kung Fu could be debated as the absolute starter but Renegade brought in the 3D aspect alongside the mostly-urban aspect and wasn't too long after Kung Fu. Also has been its own niche even being the first of its kind to introduce four-player platform fighting since Double Dragon built up on the Renegade formula
acd6a2 No.16282683
OP, you understand that we're getting Jason in the Sophia III now that Blaster Master has been made relevant once more, right?
590cce No.16282689
>>16282667
Hold on I got some info wrong. It's a revamp of an older moveset mod, and the guy who made the ridley mod is doing new animations for it. The main work is being done by another modder.
50b518 No.16282709
>>16282632
Are you meaning to imply that Touhou is more iconic or that Touhou happens to be more well-known? It's not.
You may better know a certain Kunio game as "River City Ransom" which is practically a staple and must-play for the NES. So much so, it was featured in Nintendo's NES Online service and remains widely influential for the beat-em-up genre for it's plethora of mechanics and gameplay, it's stat raising features were unique to the time but nowadays almost every game with slight RPG elements has some sort of stat raising system. Kunio's first game which is called "Renegade" in the West could also easily be confused as being one of the first beat-em-ups or at the very least one of the first noteworthy beat-em-ups for the trademarks it introduced, helping to define the genre further.
And you might refuse to acknowledge Banjo-Kazooie, but it was a pretty big deal for it's time. It was heavily (and I mean, HEAVILY) advertised by Nintendo and would help to edge out system specs competition over the Playstation as it was a graphically and technically impressive game, a big showcase for the system all around. For some, Super Mario 64 showed that 3D platformers were possible, but Banjo-Kazooie showed that 3D platformers were here, the new thing, and could follow it's own formula similar to "go to the end of the level" for 2D games. Super Mario 64 had you complete missions to collect stars, but Banjo-Kazooie wanted to use collectibles to show you around the world and have you explore. If 2D games where a journey, then this new 3D formula was the beginning of "exploration." Not to the mention this kind of formula showed how you could create a 3D game without using a lot of assets and why it therefor became the standard. And for a lot of people, not just myself, it defined the N64 as a whole and the experiences it had to offer. This was your standard N64 Library, Super Mario 64, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Mario Kart 64, and Banjo-Kazooie. It wasn't just a "must-play" but it was a game practically everyone with an N64 had, it's extremely hard to imagine the N64 without it or even begin talking about non-1st party games without it. To some, it's like what Mega Man, Castlevania, and Contra were to the NES.
3d044e No.16282721
>>16282689
>>16282667
that video made me shit and cum, goddamn that was cool
7f10aa No.16282726
>>16282709
Both came and went with their own consoles, for the most part. Even someone like Captain Falcon kept more relevance, despite F-Zero selling like shit. Or for a more apt comparison, someone like knight Arthur from Ghosts and Goblins, that lasted longer, though not by much. Kunio and Banjo are as relevant as Jason and Sophia the 3rd from Blaster Master.
And if we're using the NES Online as a reference point, should Dana from Solomon's Key and Fire 'N Ice be included too?
b08ba1 No.16282741
>>16282726
>both came and went with their own consoles
Kunio's still living strong in Japan, in fact a game about one of the bigger characters in the series got announced in Taiwan and the series is still popular enough to get an updated port of one of its newer games in Japan. As for American-translated games, River City Rival Showdown dropped in English in 2017 as a 3DS exclusive.
To build up on the other guy's post though, River City Ransom was one of the first titles on NES Online, not just a title, but one of the first, as in flat-out featured on the promotional video for NES Online when it was announced.
50b518 No.16282822
>>16282726
Solomon's Key and Fire N' Ice were never big blockbuster hits. Nor were they iconic or influential towards a particular type of genre, puzzles or platformers. (Meanwhile, we still haven't got a Tetris stage) And the fact remains that Kunio and Banjo-Kazooie have also remained fan favorites and gaming staples rather than "cult classics." And Ghosts N' Goblins never really had "character power" it was more about the game. You wouldn't be able to take Arthur and shove him into a different genre as you would easily be able to do with Kunio (Dodgeball) and Banjo-Kazooie (Banjo Pilot, Nuts & Bolts, etc) Ghosts N' Goblins was similar to Gauntlet or Golden Axe where it was "generic fantasy", it was never as culturally or technically influential as Kunio or Banjo-Kazooie, and it never made an impact that can be felt across other games except for maybe Dark Souls. And it's hard to say if F-ZERO was really all that influential towards racing games considering no other racing game really cares to copy it's style or make standards of it.
>Blaster Master
Even for NES, that game is considered niche, it didn't sell all that particularly well.
>Both came and went with their own consoles
Kunio-kun games are still being made, for both the Switch and 3DS in fact and has remained as profound and recent as Double Dragon. (Fun Fact: Double Dragon was based on the foundation of Renegade) Beat-em-ups simply wouldn't have been the same without Kunio.
And while Banjo-Kazooie hasn't been as relevant or timely, the game still remains of a staple of 3D platformers in which all further releases are practically based on Banjo-Kazooie. If it wasn't for Microsoft's acquisition of Rare, you can bet Banjo-Kazooie would've had another game and perhaps more side games or spin-offs similar to the ones they had on GameBoy Advance. They had a great setup for another juggernaut character like Mario, Sonic, or Crash. Certainly much better than Bubsy, Gex, Glover, or Bonk. The foundation is all there and they've certainly made an impact far greater than the latter characters I've listed. Spyro and Crash are much in the same boat as Banjo-Kazooie, yet people are more accepting of them for some odd reason. Again, similar to Kunio, 3D platformers wouldn't have been the same without Banjo-Kazooie.
Meanwhile there's the fact I can't recall at any point in which Touhou has been in the public conscious, nor can I remember or see any contributions it's made towards Sh'mups or the Bullet Hell subgenre. It's odd because from my viewpoint it seems Touhou functions more as a fanbase than it does as a series, being that it's over encompassed by it's niche and can't seem to grow out of it or go beyond it.
f88d47 No.16282924
>>16282614
>Kunio
>Iconic
Banjo is a stretch and arguable at most as iconic for the n64 era, but kunio?
aa998d No.16283025
>another fake leak thread after the THQ incident
>>16281753
>shitty, clunky, broken mess
this is pretty much all smash games though, you have to be more specific.
64754c No.16283037
>>16281858
Hey Mark nice projecting faggot.
1c95f6 No.16283080
FUCK ALL YOU N64 BABIES
PUT EARTHWORM JIM IN SMASH
The coolest worm is about to make the comeback of the century in Smash! He's about to crawl out of hiding!
>Drop a cow at his location with his down B! Smack it on the butt and send it charging into a crowd of enemies! Sometimes you'll get a flaming cow which will explode, so give those enemies a beefy surprise!
>Use barnyard animals as nunchucks with his smash attacks! Go on a hamster rodeo with his down smash, slam a pig over their heads with his forward smash, and belch out a huge explosion from the neck of Jim's suit with his up Smash!
>Use Jim's rapid blaster any time you want by just holding the A button down! Point in eight directions! Even fire in mid-air! Keep an eye on your ammo gauge though, as Jim needs it!
>Spend 250 ammo to blast people with Mega Plasma or 300 to blast them with a HOME-ing rocket!
>Feeling down offstage? Whip your head at the stage to tether grab onto it, or Snott Swing up-air into your opponents to snap your body into them and use them to help you recover!
>Nuke your enemies with the Barn Blaster, the ultimate weapon in Jim's arsenal! Fire a supernova of plasma out of a gun made out of bricks with a chimney that steams!
Sakurai won't let it happen because he's too busy working on anime fuckboys and making more bad design decisions like making attacks whiff because they missed the character on the Z-axis
281484 No.16283127
01b20f No.16283614
>>16282092
> P+
Sounds pretty good, has some good changes in it. I hope that one day Sheik and Zelda will be totally separated, that would be a great change.
> LXP/LTE
I am still salty about about the fact that Isaac, Lyn and Knuckles aren't added because the devs are afraid of "using someone else's ideas" or some shit.
> Main
Zelda/ZSS and a fuckton of different characters as offhand; Weegee, Ike, G&W, Samus, Fox, Falcon, Icies
> Self Improvement
I want to be better at dashdancing and ledgedashes, these are by far my weakest points. Mixups are still difficult for me too.
> Best of PM
I like the love that was put into the game, and the balancing, the stages, the movement that was improved from Melee, the Easter eggs, I just love the whole game.
> Stage
FoD, Warioware, Brinstar
> Clips
Maybe later, I think I have some uncompressed
> Nope, too busy
f88d47 No.16283636
>>16283127
Even better
WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO DO A PSYCHOANALYSIS OF EVERY PERSON'S MAIN
We had this for Smash 4
f88d47 No.16283646
>>16283636
I'll do some
>Mario
You're a bland, average person. You're kind of boring. You have sex in missionary position and like vanilla ice cream. You don't stand out, and will be the "nice guy" who doesn't have its own personality. If they're not careful they can be cucked by women for some other more chad male and may end up like Luigi Mains being beta
>Donkey Kong
You see a big monkey that has big punches and you said "I'm gonna play him". Honest and Fun to be with, but not the smartest tool in the shed. Will have fun playing with and will be a good bro.
>Link
Closet bisexual and closet soy. Slightly self-destructive with alcohol and cigarettes or some form of dopamine/anxiety relief. likes to attack from far away safe because he's scared to face his issues head on. Usually average height or short men tend to orbit to link, as he represents their fragile masculinity being viable.
>Samus
You're either a patrician who doesn't give a shit about tiers and play this low tier character because you like her defensive zoning or you just like to charge and spam Neutral B. Either way, non-zero suit samus players are respectable mains playing a low tier because they have fun with it. If you pick Samus as your secondary though, you're a faggot just picking a zoner to counter-pick.
(cont)
f88d47 No.16283654
>>16283646
>Dark Samus
an edgier Samus Main kid or someone who just like how cool Dark Samus looks. Either way also respectable player. The minority are just underage edgy kids who like an edgy character with meme ball charge neutral B.
>Yoshi
Unlike DK or Samus mains, You're a complete and utter homosexual. Closet like Link Mains, except unlike Link not fun to play against. will unapologetically spam eggs and safe aerials and do the two-dimensional dash attack/egg into aerials. Unlike Link mains , yoshi mains are usually closet bottoms and have a submissive personality. Also some fucked up fetishes.
>kirby
If you main Kirby in any game but Smash64 you have nothing but the utmost respect of the community. Seeing a kirby in tournament always riles the crowd. Sadly, the majority of players are casuals and painted kirby as the new players choice where they spam down B and float a lot to learn the game's mechanics. If you play kirby at a tournament level though, you're a beast and get all the chad points. With kirby though, there's no gray area. You're either a chad no fucks given pro player styling it or a newcomer who just started the game. Rare unicorns in tourneys.
>Fox
You thought Link and Yoshi mains were gay? well at least they were closet and kept it hidden. Fox mains are gay AND autistic. And it visibly shows, at least the latter. You are psychologically and emotionally immature and stick to Fox due to a childlish perception that he is badass. Fox Mains also encompass tryhards of the worst caliber, given Fox is a low skillcap, basic hurrdurr dash attack /simple approach/ easy to tomahawk/whiff punish character. Maining Fox is like driving on Auto while everybody else is on Manual, except Fox has the same if not higher reward for less risk. His only downside is he's easily gimpable off stage, which comes to great joy of other players. Will get mad if they lose. Fox mains in ultimate sticked to their furry because of inability to adapt and their lack of flexibility, only known the simple process that is playing fox.
In addition, Black people tend to orbit to spacies, usually Falco for some reason. Their double digit brain all believe they look "cool" and "dope", probably because they have guns.
>Pikachu
Fun to play, not very fun to play against. Pikachu mains are arrogant, and think they're hot shit, although they're carried by the character being top tier and their easy recovery and neutral game. Can also be prone to being gay and/or autism. Pikachu mains at least require skill to play, unlike Fox, so they're not scorned or looked down upon much. The boring version of pichu mains. They're not chad enough to combo rush down with pichu, so they orbit to the boring, safer Pikachu because they play to win.
(cont)
f88d47 No.16283676
>>16283654
>Luigi
Luigi Mains in ultimate deserve respect for sticking with a character that is weaker than in smash 4. However, the fact that they stick with this character is also a testament of being not very smart/autistic/dumb/stubborn. Luigi plays nothing like in smash 4, leaving out the only possibility being their appeal to the character itself.
Most people don't bother with luigi but those who do like to play him because of his goofyness, to state "look, this goofy joke of a man is beating you up". unlike popular belief luigi mains are not cuck low self-esteem men, but rather the good friend who believes in his friend and wants him to believe in himself, and that's why they want luigi to beat people up. Luigi mains are actually good fellows, and deserve respect for playing or sticking with this character. Except Elegant, he's a faggot. Which does point that the minority of luigi mains do identify with him, like elegant does.
>Ness
Simple and Effective. You're a business man who wants to be practical and get the job done. Safe neutral game that opens opportunities for you to take advantage of. Simple, low risk and effective kill confirms. Ness mains are the "woah there, let's just safely spam pk fire behind and neutral with my aerials" that takes the easy and safe route. The dastardly rogue of smash bros. They hate you for using them, but you find smug satisfaction in those back throws and pk fires. When you get spikes or gimped from your recovery, you don't feel bad because you know you're playing a dirty character.
>Captain Falcon
C. Falcon is not as good in this game like in smash 4, with dash grab being completely nerfed. if you're sticking with Captain Falcon, you deserve respect. Either a kid who likes to "lol falcon punch XD" or someone who enjoys the aggressive advantage state. A fair amount of players that use captain falcon tend to get too hooked on the pleasure of spiking and gimping people, and tend to go to the dark side and become kind of fags who strictly aim for gimping instead of playing honest. If you see a pink falcon, that's a bro. If you see a dark color of captain falcon, it's usually a tryhard edgy fag and feel no remorse counter-picking him.
>Jigglypuff
either a no-fun-allowed tryhard who revels in making their opponents get bored from waiting on your hit and runs or the little sister who saw a cute pokemon pink thing to play with. There is no in-between. Usually counter-picked with swordies, so they usually used as secondaries.
There we go, I did the first row. I'll let others contribute too.
cba59b No.16283694
Smash is not made for remembering the good old days, but for advertising the newest games.
>but Ice Climbers
Melee was a fluke in many ways.
000000 No.16283798
>>16283646
Is this implying Link doesn't suck anymore? Cause I've been waiting 5 games for Link not to suck. The analysis hits too close to home.
50b518 No.16283910
>>16282924
>but kunio?
You can read some of the other posts I've made that explain it more than justifiably, but here's more.
Double Dragon is definitely a more iconic choice, but here's the problems we start to encounter. Double Dragon doesn't have a lot of personality on it's own, but simply follows other conventions and themes set forth by the times. That being 80s trends or what was currently popular for that time. Similar to how Contra feels like a generic 80s action flick game like Rambo, Total Recall, etc. Double Dragon feels like generic 80s Bruce Lee inspired martial arts. Like how Metal Slug might borrow or feel similar to Contra, but they have much more personality to carry the series out of being a product of the time. Then there's the problem Double Dragon's Billy and Jimmy aren't really that iconic of characters, it's the game, not them that's iconic. One also doesn't work without the other, unlike Richter and Simon who can work fine by themselves.
Not to mention Kunio's game laid the groundwork and was a predecessor for Double Dragon. But in addition, his games have loads more personality and more variety in moves and attacks which would help translate into Super Smash Bros. and help him stand out with his unique flair. Kunio also works better as an outright character, being able to fit within a variety of sports games adding versatility to his design, making him more timeless and giving him more personality.
Sometimes games that are widely influential or gigantic cultural icons for their time often disappear or fade as time goes on, but that doesn't make them any less important. Secret of Monkey Island for example was a monumental achievement for the Point N' Click Adventure genre, but hardly anyone knows about it anymore. Same goes for Maniac Mansion, Wizardry, Ultima, Myst, etc. All are considered widely influential games, but hardly anyone thinks much of them anymore. Their impact doesn't diminish simply because people forget, but rather they set standards and have become ingrained in gaming culture itself that they've become archaic or surpassed by the standards they set.
I would say Renegade and River City Ransom is when beat-em-ups had finally developed their own personality and set many of the standards for the genre. They may not be talked about much, but that's because their impact is in the genre itself and extends to a multitude of games to where it's not even thought of "being similar to Renegade" it's just something that's part of beat-em-ups.
Also it's worth noting that apparently Kunio became somewhat of a mascot for Technos itself and became prominently featured with their logo. Kunio is HUGE in Japan, and only really struggles in America because his games were localized to remove all the personality and cultural elements from his games.
7de926 No.16283915
>>16282614
>I'd say most people that aren't Chan users don't know very much about Touhou or that it exists at all.
Yeah we know you'd say a bunch of garbage that you didn't bother to fact check but please try to contain.
Didn't people also say Dragon Quest was unknown? Please.
>I don't exactly know how influential Touhou is either
Yep
I don't think Reimu will be in Smash because they already put all the games in the Switch and ZUN doesn't really have anything else to bargain, but come on.
fccf5b No.16283923
Reminder to never reply to the Lipfag.
f88d47 No.16283953
>>16283798
He's not bad at all. He's not top tier but high tier.
50b518 No.16283965
>>16283917
I was implying a time before 8chan even existed, when Touhou seemed to be at peak popularity for a short period of time. Around 2007 - 2009. I won't deny, Touhou is extremely well known in Imageboard culture and niches in general, but it struggles to resonate within the whole of the gaming community. But that could be argued it's because their fans constantly shove it down everyone else's throats with their smug anime waifu reaction images and "fanart."
Please try harder to not be so retarded and remember some of us where using other Chans before 8chan existed and that Touhou largely become popular due to these types of sites.
>>16283915
What I mean to say is that I only really see it's popularity existing within confined niches. Like the same type of people who enjoy or play MUGEN. It doesn't seem to grab much interest in people who aren't obsessed with Lolis or Moe. Also happens to be that Chans are a popular ground for Loli and Moe culture.
d59083 No.16283968
>>16283910
Don't forget the simple fact that Kunio has had games released in the past few years that are original, new, and on the 3DS, one of which includes Billy and Jimmy as easter egg characters. There was also a new game released in December and another one in the works right now.
Kunio is still going strong. Double Dragon is lucky to get a faux-retro quasi-sequel every 5 years.
000000 No.16283972
>>16283953
Never really cared about that. Just want him to at least be at Melee level again.
50b518 No.16283986
>>16283968
Glad to see other Kunio supporters here, that's some really good information too. You suppose Kunio will ever truly shine in the West?
b08ba1 No.16284007
>>16283986
>someone saved my OC
Nice
Kunio's never gonna make it big in the west so long as the series has a shitty team of translators and no marketing skills, unless Potato Samurai decides to just slap him in Smash at any point in time. For some reason Arc Sys's translators like to pretend he doesn't exist either.
f88d47 No.16284022
>>16283972
He's B tier. you can win tourneys with link.
Young Link is top Tier, if you prefer shota version
fccf5b No.16284053
>>16283614
>I am still salty about about the fact that Isaac, Lyn and Knuckles aren't added
Just play Remix.
590cce No.16284130
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>>16283614
The problem behind Knuckles/Lyn/Isaac is the lack of transparency on who worked on the models and movesets so that they could be properly credited. Only recently the Knuckles model has finally been credited but everything else is still in the unknown. I recall that LXP devs stating that they need both the proper credits as well as explicit consent from the creators to include the cut PM characters into the roster or else they would get backlash from PM purists, especially with how small the PM community is right now. It's retarded that we still haven't gotten those characters after so long, but with how autistic the smash community can get over drama and controversial shit it's probably for the best.
01b20f No.16284166
>>16284130
> implying PMfags have issues with new characters
I can understand Melee purists, but if official development of PM has ceases tourneyfags should be very happy with the end result, 3.6. If nerfs and buffs are added, you should be able to transition easily from one PM to another. If any, they should just either remake the models or textures or just deal with it. This is all done in a legally somewhat grey area, so legal issues are probably a non-issue.
The only thing that worries me for a bit is the split of P+ and LXP, where one adds nerfs and buffs some characters need, the other adds new characters. I hope that the changes of P+ can translate to LXP, because PM is not entirely perfect yet.
590cce No.16284188
>>16284166
If P+ proved to be popular enough to revitalize the PM scene, then maybe the LXP devs would consider implementing that to their build, or at the very least make a version that includes the P+ changes like how they made a version of LXP that cuts the stage bloat.
3aec83 No.16284216
>>16283965
>What I mean to say is that I only really see it's popularity existing within confined niches
yeah man because fuckin' rob and gayman watch were so fuckin' popular
let's not forget marth who was from a series that was definitely popular in the west at the time of melee
f88d47 No.16285461
Since none of you lazy faggots wanted to contribute I'll finish the Psychoanalysis
>Peach
Most likely sassy IRL or with a hidden feminine side. Not necessarily gay, but definitely find peach your diva/positive influence. You probably have a smug anime girl as your avatar and like sassy yaass queen slay. Either a mediocre player who just likes the character or a high-tech autist with ability to master the float cancels and technicalities of one of the hardest characters to main.
>Daisy
Daisyfags are peachfags, but hipster version. usually like tomboys. Those who main daisy over peach are a little more autistic, with femdom fetishes and most likely closeted homosexuality. Peachfags like pretty and sass, daisyfags like them tomboy. Also probably of jewish decent.
>Bowser
You are a simple man with simple likes and dislikes. You like the big tough charismatic mario villain, so you want to play as a big heavy with 1-2 punches, nothing fancy or complex. Bowser mains also encompass a small minority of bara furry autists who fap to their main, but this is thankfully the minority of players. Hates Bowsette porn.
>Ice Climbers
either a turbo-autist tryhard unlikeable, insufferable human being from the melee days who thought he would main the ices again to try and find new desync combos and pseudo wobbles or a man who is into incest. Ice climber mains are non-existent, since the character is low tier in this game
>Sheik
Enjoys fighting games and rushdown characters. Likes safe approaches and spammy moves. Enjoyed sheik in melee as a kid and stayed with his main, or think ninjas are cool. Sheik mains are usually slightly autistic and hide it well, and also shy.
1c95f6 No.16285592
>>16283646
>>16283636
>Rosalina
You're a kind person of patrician taste who just wants to be loved, the same thing we all strive for in life, perhaps a lonesome person who can relate to Rosalina's life of seclusion. Although she is no longer as strong as she once was, you still dedicate yourself to pushing through the matchups out of respect for her and respect for yourself, wanting to see Rosalina succeed, drawing inspiration from her stature as a mother and a fighter. You fight through sorrow and unhappiness, and although things don't go well for you much of the time, you maintain starry-eyed optimism that things will get better. You never lose hope which brings you closer to your waifu than you think.
>Any FE character
You watch the english dubs of One Piece and Sword Art Online and think those shows are the coolest shit ever. You lack the capacity for critical thought and don't want to get into the game too much because your wife won't let you play video games in front of the baby. Your middling-at-best skill at the game reflects your real life where you have no talent or marketable skills, the life where you decided to stick with the same dead end job that you got the moment you finished high school, and your occasional win using Chrom or Ike's retarded aerials gives you the same high you get whenever you find a quarter in the Walmart parking lot after work. Actual successes are few and far between for you so you take what you can get whenever you can.
1c95f6 No.16285711
>>16285601
>Sticking with just one character defeats the purpose of having a large roster
>Not acknowledging the purpose of the "secondary" field
>Seriously thinking that truly good players don't just stick to a couple of characters and play everyone on the roster
>Thinking that everyone wants to be as mediocre of a player as you
>Gatekeeping fighting games when it's obvious you don't know the first thing about them
If you have something like a dozen different mains that just means you're a retard who probably doesn't win very much. You stick to the characters who complement your personal playstyle or just the ones you like. You're not obligated to play Simon Belmont or K. rool or other characters you don't like if you don't want to. The purpose of having a large roster is not to make sure everyone plays as many characters as possible but to provide more options for people searching for their niche.
I'm totally convinced you suck ass at the game.
61b588 No.16285957
Updated a bit since pre-release, since Simon did end up getting in the game. That's 1/5 of the way.
fccf5b No.16285983
He's here, you all know what to do.
5d33ae No.16285993
>>16285983
And what exactly would that be? Lick my balls and cry because I have a VPN? :^)
454abd No.16286133
>>16285957
>everything about that except simon and amaterasu
b69865 No.16286147
>>16285993
You know, Lip has some nice legs.
a250af No.16286226
>>16281667
I believe it. I don’t actually believe it.
bed0e7 No.16286235
>>16282092
>It's being made by several old members of the PMDT.
Source? I did some minor digging and the only PMDT related thing I saw was the strongbad drama thing.
dbc0b4 No.16286264
>>16282614
>I'd say most people that aren't Chan users don't know very much about Touhou or that it exists at all
Maybe in the west. Do you have any idea how unfathomably popular Touhou was in Japan back in the day? They literally started reitaisai because comiket couldn't handle all the touhou shit. Now it's fairly popular with young girls, go figure.
590cce No.16286286
>>16285968
>Master Chief instead of Doomguy
Objectively Shit Taste/10 for that alone
1c95f6 No.16286348
>>16286286
>Named character with lore and background instead of generic template character
1c95f6 No.16286374
>>16286348
>>16286286
To be honest I like both of them but I played a lot of Halo 2 in high school so I like him more
3b3e5c No.16286426
>>16286348
This is trolling.
e5c622 No.16287582
>Who's your main?
Ridley, my secondary would King K Rool, but I still like to mess around with King Dedede, and Wario.
What would be your favorite alts for these characters?
nes Ridley
King K Krusha
Purple Dedede
Classic Wario
f88d47 No.16291627
>>16285592
I wouldn't put Robin on the same Psychoanalysis as the FE sword users, given he plays completely different.
f88d47 No.16291712
>Zelda
You are a waifufag, whether public about it or not. You like cute energetic girls and this Zelda captivated your heart. You want to prove that cute can also be strong. Mainly because you're a cute man yourself that also wants to be manlier, or has accepted himself and wishes to show that men like you can be viable.
Either way, You like the explosive glass canon gameplay of Zelda and you give no shits about tiers, so you are a respectable person within the community.
>Dr. Mario
Not wanting to be an average joe and unoticed by society, you become a hipster and choose the weaker version of Mario, just to stand out. Dr. Mario mains try to be "badass manly king of disrespect" like ganon mains, but the truth is they're all smoke. In reality they're shy and fragile men who want to be tough. Mario mains at least do not care what others think about them.
If you play Dr. mario as a secondary for fun though, you're the complete opposite and you generally are well liked for genuinely not giving a fuck and doing janky moves on a matchup nobody knows.
>Pichu
You're the chad version of Pikachu mains. Also a tier whore, but more a lover of rushdown, so these two together make pichu your perfect match. You love the fact the weakest character from melee is now one of the strongest in this game and find smug satisfaction in using the taunts or beating opponents with character that people saw as the joke weak character. Also, you take this game a little too seriously and probably lab lightning loops to be like your hero VoiD. Tier whore, tryhard, but at least you're not a tier whore tryhard zoner like olimar mains.
>Falco
If you main Falco chances are you are a black person. If you're not, most black people will main or at least play Falco. If you're not black or a heavy fighting games/smash fan, chances are you have a macro fetish. You enjoy his high-jump, smashes and aerials so you sticked with your main. If you are playing Falco because you liked in previous iterations, you are a respectable person. If you play him because you think he's cool, you're either black or underage with some autistic fetishes.
>Marth
You deserve respect for maining Marth in a game where Lucina is objectively better in every way. With that said, Lucina is the vainilla ice cream flavor of characters, and with that into account, then Marth is just vanilla with chocolate chips. At least you can be respected because Marth mains have a bigger skillcap spacing the tipper. You're still playing an easy swordie though, and any pro player will counterpick you with rushdown or zoning for not being Lucina. You either stay mediocre or train hard to become respectable. Either way, you're the least offender of FE swordies along with Roy, so your presence is tolerated.
>Lucina
Either a person who plays the game for the characters' function and top tier viablity or an insufferable waifufag who thinks nuFE is better than old fire emblem. Or both. Rushdown is too hard for you and you don't have the patience or IQ to be a zoner, so you play the braindead sword user with higher range than other characters. with the exception of the minority of players who play tourney/pro, Lucina mains are mediocre at best, and like stated above, are usually normalfags and zoomers who think the generic Shonen and Mainstream triple A shit is the best thing ever.
1c95f6 No.16292451
>>16292426
>Reimu threw away her Smash invitation and Joker stole it out of her garbage while looking for food
f88d47 No.16292695
>>16291712
Fuck it let's continue
>Young Link
Similar to link mains, you share a closeted bisexuality, except you lean more towards cute twinks than handsome men. You also have excellent Zelda tastes and know OOT and MM are the superior 3D Zeldas. Not necessarily a shota or trap lover, but you can easily fap to it.
>Ganondorf
Either your generic counter-culture contrarian who wants to be "the king of disrespect! lmao" or somebody who likes ganondorf's heavy hitter functionality. You're not the best of your smash community but it is always fun to play against you and you are generally a well-liked person.
>Mewtwo
These people do not exist. They are a rare breed that are simply too stubborn to adapt to ultimate and continue using mewtwo out of their limited ability to play anything besides their smash 4 main.
Those who continue to play him however, genuinely love the character's moveset, and that is very respectable.
Mewtwo mains tend to like meme balls (charge shot specials) and safe poke approaches that open opportunities for advantage states. Sadly in this game Mewtwo lost most of his safe pokes with nerfed dtilt and no combos out of jab, so what remains is nothing but a fragment of its hollow shell. Even still, mewtwo mains remain with their character. Either respect or pity for mewtwo mains, depending on how they play.
>Roy
You suffer from being a FEfag sword user, but at least you're not Ike, Lucina, Chrom, or all the other braindead, 0 combo just spam your large hitbox characters. Roy mains are decisive and committed, straight forward people. They are confident in themselves and are go-getters in life. Roy mains, deep down are confident and enjoy to play the game with others which is commendable, but on the surface they are shy and quirky, just like the mediocre shit lord with poor stats they main. Roy mains suffer from being overshadowed IRL, just like Roy does, but that's another reason why he is their boy.
>Chrom
You don't want to win the game honestly or grow as a player, you just want to win at any cost and try to prove you're better. Chromfags are the beta version of already slightly beta roy mains, without their commitment and internal courage. Chrom mains are usually not very bright human beings, with low IQ than average, so they play a very simple and strong rushdown swordie with low risk. They get outwitted by zoners, which ends up with them using chrom's gimpable recovery as a jon. If they lose, it's just the character's weakness.If they win, it's because they think they're better than the opponent. chromfags are not to be tolerated and not to be socialized with, just like the majority of the FEfags.
>mr. Game and Watch
Generally a positive individual. However you also lean to be more emotional than logical, given you are picking Mr. Game and Watch over someone with better functionality. You prefer style over substance, and probably lean towards the fine arts or music over STEM. To you, Mr. G&W style is what attracts you, which is a very shallow reason to play a character, so you may have some existential issues to overcome. You rely on RNG, luck and fate to help you in battle and in real life, you probably believe in astrology and hand palm reading. You tend to go with how you feel over common sense or logic.
>MetaKnight
You're not a good person. You're one of the biggest faggots in the community. You play dirty, scummy low risk characters and probably shuttle-looped people in smash 4 thinking you were a good player. You don't want an honest challenge of wits or skill. You just want to make your opponent lose at any cost. You'd probably shoot everybody down for 1 million dollars in your community. you're probably a very self-centered person. Metaknight mains are not even good enough to switch to a top tier so they stay with a top tier of previous game. you bring a gun to a knife fight , and the worst part is, you feel no shame. Edgy, would backstab friends. Mk mains are kikery incarnate. the worst part is, unlike Ness mains or other top tier mains, they feel no remorse nor acknowledge feeling bad for playing a brain dead character.
>Pit/Dark Pit
99.99% of the chances are you're not straight. Or at least you're attracted to men, given most people who main pit are women and LGBT. Either a girl whoi saw a cute bishonen and thought she'd main it or somebody who identifies with Pit or Dark Pit. Those who main Pit are tops, and those who main Dark Pit are bottom.
Additionally, Dark Pit mains are emotional, while Pit mains are more chill.
d68f62 No.16292716
>>16291712
> Rushdown is too hard for you and you don't have the patience or IQ to be a zoner, so you play the braindead sword user with higher range than other characters
Now we know why street fighter sucks now smash faggots can't into footsies.
7795a6 No.16292773
>>16281667
For those living under a rock, there were 16 empty character slots found in the World of Light character select screen. Six are going to be filled with piranha plant and fighter pass 1, leaving a potential 10 additional fighters. Also, here's a "leak" that conveniently stops before showing off any gameplay footage.
e12a70 No.16292795
>>16292695
>main Ganondorf in Melee
>main Ganondorf in Brawl
>main Ganondorf in Smash 4
>main Ganondorf in Ultimate
<"why are you playing Ganon if you aren't even gonna disrespect?"
The casual community makes me want to play Russian roulette with myself.
>>16292773
>"jcHAu-ker"
I'm convinced.
Surprised no one's mentioned any of the competitive nonsense about how a 27-year-old neckbeard and a 17-year minor have been doing gay shit with each other behind the scenes.
3b3e5c No.16292796
>>16292773
>leak
The art styles don't even match up. Not only that, but every other character has an active pose except the plant.
fccf5b No.16292799
>>16292773
That render looks fucking terrible and is in no way up to standard.
f88d47 No.16292815
>>16292716
Except Swordies aren't footsies, they're the equivalent of spamming a safe dive kick on block.
>>16292795
holy shit what is that left pic? I didn't know Ally was gay. We all knew Zack was a giant flaming homosexual but I didn't know Ally liked dudes.
e12a70 No.16292849
>>16292815
Apparently Ally is bisexual, and from what I've gathered, he and Zack have had a thing going on under covers that's driven player Tamim to quit. There's also accusations that a "StaticManny" is a sexual predator too, but I've gotten all this info from a local friend who's real knowledgeable on the scene, so I'm not sure how much is accurate. Sounds like it is though.
d68f62 No.16292852
>>16292815
But you can't spam sword attacks in the new smash games like you could in melee/pm most of the sword attacks are unsafe on block and can be easily punished with a grab.
IDK much about ultimate though because I haven't played enough of it but I played enough of brawl and 4 to know it's just not my cup of tea. You have to play alot of these weird stupid "aerial footsy" games to press advantage.
f88d47 No.16292868
>>16292849
The tranny is 21 though. She's not underage, so it won't really cause any controversy. If anything that static manny will be known for being progressive and all that baloney that they love to use as advertizing
>>16292852
you have to space your sword. If you see MKleo, Ike/Lucina Nair/Fair on shield is just free pressure. But yes, basically it is aerial footsies. The thing is, in ultimate Ike and Lucina frame data is so stupid it's basically free comfortable position to dish pressure with no risk.
c7e50d No.16292869
>>16292773
>8.4 MB for a 15 second video
why the fuck
also that render is so laughably bad. I give the faker credit for trying to recreate xanders voice but there is no way thats legit.
e12a70 No.16292896
>>16292868
>The tranny is 21
This was 2 years ago. And all of this is StaticManny's defense.
f88d47 No.16292926
>>16292896
that manny guys is a filthy pedo degenerate into trannies and small children.
I bet ally and Zack had gay sex and are just denying it.
d68f62 No.16293382
>>16292868
I really hate the frame data and hitstun in smash 4 and ultimate to be honest. It's like every character just has a jab punish that could lead to smash attacks or big damage combos and some characters just don't. Same with grabs. Some characters have grabs that lead into mad damage whilst so many characters don't. Characters that don't have good punish ability are just shit.
d68f62 No.16293403
>>16292868
>The thing is, in ultimate Ike and Lucina frame data is so stupid it's basically free comfortable position to dish pressure with no risk.
I haven't played enough ultimate to know much about the safety of the FE characters moves tbh(I only play it at friends' houses because I don't own a switch) but do you think it's an overall improvement over 4 or a downgrade. I just want to know what you think about the game as a whole because I want to buy it but maybe I'll skip out because if it isn't that much of an improvement over 4 I'm not gonna bother. I remember in 4 you had to have like near perfect spacing to make marth/lucinas fair safe though.
f88d47 No.16293784
>>16293403
It's an improvement as a whole
The game is faster and more aggressive.
Smash 4 was power shielding and dash grabs, the game. Making it very defensive. Especially with the air dodges being spammable
in ultimate you're more vulnerable in the air, mobility is more more tight and fluid, and you can't just power shield or dash grab spam.
Here buffering is much easier to spacing is in returne easier. All landing lag has been reduced on every character, so spacing with the swordies is substantially easier.
f88d47 No.16293790
>>16293784
jesus I brain farted.
Buffering is much easier, so in return, spacing is easier.
1214ac No.16302488
>>16283722
Man how could you not want fred durst
f88d47 No.16312742
cb9a51 No.16313368
>>16300702
Fucking Hackurai.
Seriously, if this is true, I might just actually have some fucking optimism back for trash bros. Nothing short of 3 miracle promotions is making up for that cancer whimper last year.
cb9a51 No.16313421
>>16292868
>she
Get the fuck out.
cb9a51 No.16313439
Do Simon, faggot. He was a very part of the reason I finally broke down and bought this disappointment.
494194 No.16324839
>>16287582
>that picture
a man of supreme taste, I see.
494194 No.16324909
>>16312742
I think this is why >>16324726
1c95f6 No.16324983
>>16312742
You guys probably won't believe me but
>Someone who writes for a major microsoft website followed by Phil Spencer himself that would have this kind of inside info
>Talked to PolarPanda, a known and credible leaker
>Confirmed through DMs that Steve is not in the game
>Found out about it through assravaged Steve fanboy who closely follows this shit
4c023d No.16330310
>>16324726
Yup, Banjo's happening.
7f10aa No.16330332
>>>/v/16330319
At least you tried enough to make a rhyme instead of just calling soy brothers or some shit. 2/10.
d57954 No.16330711
>>16324726
>>16300702
Thank Fuck, though honestly if there is Master Chef that's de-confirmed most of the "leaks" since having Halo guy and Doom Guy is unlikely
d57954 No.16330719
>>16330303
Even if there was a Souls Character it isn't likely since the slot would likely go to Solaire
0e7186 No.16331435
>>16292773
>Implying they won't be filled with echo characters nobody wants
4667bf No.16331604
>>16292773
Even if this leak was real, should anyone really care? It adds literally nothing, we already know joker is the first dlc character, who fucking cares about brief shakey cam footage of him in the character select screen.
acd6a2 No.16333531
Does anyone else unironically want Dachora & Etecoons as a playable character? Extreme speed almost on par with Sonic, shinesparking for the farthest-reaching recovery in the game, a speed booster side B as an acceleration-based dash attack, a down B where the etecoons set up a tire swing that acts like a bumper and trampoline that can be pushed/swung around, ranged etecoon grabbing and maybe even tether-grabbing if they bother to use the rope they'd otherwise use for the tire swing, along with a final smash where they shinespark off the planet and the baby dachora makes a cameo as you see them all together in the cockpit of the Metroid Fusion gunship before they forcibly attempt to tractorbeam opponents off the stage, sounds like a genuinely fun combined moveset to have.
494194 No.16333559
>>16333531
I'm all for more metroid representation and Piranha plant showed that you need bare bones for a working character. That said, I'd rather push for something like the Zeta Metroid or even the Gamma since they lend themselves more openly to combat.
That said, Dachora and Etecoons riding on her back would be pretty entertaining.
acd6a2 No.16333567
>>16333559
>That said, Dachora and Etecoons riding on her back would be pretty entertaining.
That, and if you want a second non-villain Metroid rep, they might genuinely be the best choice.
494194 No.16333578
>>16333567
Yeah, there is little to go on in terms of hero characters in metroid. Rundas is the most likely outside of that. I'm suddenly imagining Dachora and Etecoons functioning much like how Peach and Daisy do grabs and/or duck hunt dog.
acd6a2 No.16333588
>>16333578
I just wish I knew what their neutral B should be.
18afb3 No.16333597
Whats the appeal of smash?
494194 No.16333652
>>16333588
I would have gone with:
>B = speed booster
>down B = Shinespark charge
Would work like Piranha plant's bungee plant in that the longer you hold it, the farther it goes and has some directional input
>Up B = Etecoon chain
Kinda like Olimar's Brawl recovery and Ivysaur's vine whip
>Forward B = Etecoon flip
While seemingly working like the pikmin throw, the Etecoons do sorta a mini screw attack and function much like a boomerang as they shoot off then zip back for a mid range projectile.
acd6a2 No.16333684
>>16333652
Having down B as a shinespark does sound good in that it means being able to do extra stuff afterwards. Although, I think it would be even more fitting if you could save the charge for later.
494194 No.16333698
>>16333684
Would make sense. Just doing a shield cancel might work.
8ab64e No.16345029
>>16333597
its a fighting game that doesn't stick to traditional conventions
bed1c9 No.16345070
Asking this here because the QTDDTT. Has anyone managed to get the gamecube controllers working with Wii U Wii game VC injections? I dont want to guy a 2gb sd card and a seperate usb just for wii mode project m. I'd like to just run it with the Wii VC. Anyone else with this experience would be appreciated.
597448 No.16345113
>>16345003
Good job advertising department.
1c95f6 No.16345267
>>16333597
All-star roster of classic video game characters, easy to pick up, very fun to play with friends and family
But don't get into it competitively or you'll want to slash your wrists because the game is trash in that regard
620ba5 No.16345291
>>16333597
The same thing that attracts people to sonic. Autism
405363 No.16345385
>>16281667
>Ray (Custom Robo)
Honestly, this is what I feel is "pushing it" for me.
1214ac No.16345867
>>16345070
Yeah its possible, i set it up so that my buddy could play some LOTR gamecube game on the wii u, ill figure out what its called tomorrow
83fe12 No.16345909
>>16345366
no love for the best boy on gamecube?
1c95f6 No.16345930
>>16333559
>>16333531
Fuck off. Stop making Smash more cancerous than it already is. Piranha Plant is by far the worst addition to the cast in the history of Smash and we don't need more generic enemies being playable.
ff9bdb No.16345932
>>16345267
>>16345137
>>16281755
Why is everyone's wishlist absolute dog shit except mine? I know you milk-chugging foetal retards were born in the trash era of video games with an N64 as your first console but you can still do better.
ff9bdb No.16345934
>>16345366
Meant to quote this one.
83fe12 No.16345956
>>16345932
>wanting eggman, master chief, and a fucking RC car
<explicitly not wanting reimu, shantae, or ashley
HOW CAN ONE MAN HAVE SUCH SHIT TASTE
b60961 No.16346008
I want Jason from Blaster Master in. He can have both Famicom/NES and Zero costumes.
597448 No.16346046
>>16345930
It can't get more cancerous then the persona fags that now infest it.
acd6a2 No.16346315
>>16345930
>Dachora & Etecoons
>generic
>enemies
Samus and them mutually saved each others' lives, and she wouldn't have learned how to wall jump or shinespark without them. They are by far more important than a single piranha plant.
acd6a2 No.16346316
>>16346008
I want this too. But the thing is, how would switching between being in the Sophia III and out of it work? Should he really just be able to leave it on the stage?
83d991 No.16346468
>wanting to brush up on Young Link in arenas
>join one with just the owner inside
>Playing Ganon
>steps out of the arena as soon as our characters are shown
>look at top of the screen
>see arena is named "zoning is noob"
>get kicked
02365e No.16346511
>>16346468
Thought Isabelle was the zoner and Young Link the projectile spammer.
de3169 No.16346542
>>16346315
They'll bring in the twitch/GDQ/speedrunning audience, too! Literally win win :^)
acd6a2 No.16346549
>>16346542
>speedrunning audience
Silly anon, taking the time to save them at the end of Super Metroid would make the speedrun take too long.
ff9bdb No.16347392
>>16345956
>Wanting good unique and interesting characters over retarded flavor of the month waifu bullshit from mediocre games
>Arguing that this is a bad thing
Cry more you cancerous faggot.
>>16346315
They shouldn't be characters anyways. Generic NPCs with no names should never be playable.
b60961 No.16347407
>>16346316
Eve can pilot SOPHIA alongside Jason in the background. SOPHIA won't directly interact with the fighters outside of taking hits and using weapons with Specials. However SOPHIA can be used as a platform to jump on and off in mid-air by Jason. And SOPHIA can hover before falling as long as there's SP. Jason will not have a recovery move on his own because up+B is SOPHIA Homing Missile. However Jason can diretctly control SOPHIA's directions while directly on top of it in mid-air, including hover. Jason himself will have a tether recovery courtesy of Zero2's blaster whip.
Neutral Special: SOPHIA Crusher Shot, can be charged into a laser shot, max shot, or canon shot. Can be used with no SP.
Side Special: Spark Tackle. SOPHIA catches Jason automatically even when Jason is launched. Lateral recovery move, but uses SP along hovering.
Down Special: Thunderbolt fires directly below SOPHIA uses some SP.
Up Special: Homing Missile, charge to use more SP for Hex Missile.
About SP. SOPHIA slowly recharges SP every time it lands on the ground thanks to the new GAEA System. The faster and longer SOPHIA falls the more SP is restored. SOPHIA is also independent of Jason and can save him in a pinch.
Final Smash: Acceleration Blast. Remote lock-on to an enemy. Then Jason hops in the SOPHIA with Eve and Fred to drive in the foreground. SOPHIA morphs into a particle acceleration canon and blasts the locked targets into nothing.
Jason A attacks uses his blaster rifle. His tilts change the direction and projectile of the bullets. Smash attacks are grenades and plasma bursts. Aerials are tilts using various projectiles and kicks together. Rifle level gains power when Jason collects power cells after landing hits with bullets. He loses power when he takes damage. Especially when launched.
Jason is not a melee centric character. He's a scientist not a bounty hunter.
Alternatively we could just make a SOPHIA assist trophy and Blaster Master Mii Gunner Costume and call it a day.
acd6a2 No.16347456
>>16347407
The final smash is right except for how that attack is too big to really need a lock-on to it.
b60961 No.16347543
>>16347456
Feel free to tweak it as much as you see fit to get it to work.
acd6a2 No.16347936
>>16347931
Already been posted, anon.
2ab687 No.16354087
>>16300702
>Implying that the 5chan "leak" was real in the first place
Remember that the "leak" said that both Doomguy & Steve would be both revealed at E3 this year while at the same time the "insiders" said that Erdrick is going to be the next fighter for the Smash Pass meaning that we would be up to 4 characters revealed up to that point yet the final Smash DLC would be released at Feb of 2020. Also Fun Fact; The Steve/Doomguy "leak" predated the other 5chan "leak" that only had info about Joker & Erdrick meaning the "leak" that only had info about Joker & Erdrick could also be a fake as well. Another Fun Fact; there's a character in Jump Force that looks like Erdrick from Dragon Quest and Jump Force was made by Bandai Namco, the same company that made Smash Ultimate.
>>16330310
>Yup, Banjo's happening.
I honestly think that Banjo & Kazooie is going to be the next fighter for the Smash Pass because of the fact that the Brave fast & floaty stat and the height of the Brave character that matches Ness/Mario/Duck Hunt Dog's height plus there are some Spirits from Rare games from the N64 days in the data for Smash Ultimate. Also IIRC, there's a glitch in the game where it crashes if you use the mii sword fighter and DH Dog in the training mode, coincidentally the same DH Dog that matches the height of the Brave character.
>>16324983
May I also add that one of the mangers from the minecraft devs made a tweet around the time of the Smash Bros November Direct about how Steve from Minecraft is just a skin for the player & nothing else.
1c95f6 No.16354658
>>16354087
>May I also add that one of the mangers from the minecraft devs made a tweet around the time of the Smash Bros November Direct about how Steve from Minecraft is just a skin for the player & nothing else.
So even they don't want him in.
If even the devs of the original game talk about how bland and uninteresting their protagonist is then why the fuck should anyone else want him in?
620b99 No.16354785
I really want an SNK rep. Terry would be ideal, but 4 metal Slug skins in 1 character slot would be neat. Also master chief would be bigger than sonic if it happens
7cdf58 No.16354875
>>16347931
I'm so fucking stoked. I actually really like Ultimate, but the lack of Stage Builder is the biggest fucking drag in the world. This game will be nearly perfect with Stage Builder in.
7795a6 No.16354901
>>16345956
>Eggman is bad
>Ashley is good
And you've got the gall to call HIS tastes bad.
>>16354785
>master chief
I believe he was deconfirmed by one of the creators of Halo.
>>16347931
If they bring back the ability to search for and download other players' stages then it's a 10/10 update. Smashketball is back on the menu boys.
50b518 No.16354929
>>16354087
>I honestly think that Banjo & Kazooie is going to be the next fighter
Not to mention the data indicates that this character has laggy aerials, which fits within Banjo-Kazooie's moveset being that their ground pound and rat-a-tat rap animations take some time in comparison to typical moves. Data also suggests that they have a slippery run, which Banjo-Kazooie does have.
That being said, it still isn't 100% and there could be another character with similar stats, we'll have to wait and see. I remain cautiously optimistic, I've wanted Banjo in since Smash 64.
434db0 No.16354933
>>16281755
I'll post my roster instead because my wishlist never age well for me. So my question is will you buy the next Smash if this was the roster?
b60961 No.16355003
>>16354929
The thing about Banjo Kazooie is that Sakurai's autism would name them something autistic with their codename. This is more or less a hunch but I think "dream" would be a better fit for Banjo than 'brave". The other thing about the data mine is that the character model I think has proportions closer to Toon Link. So Brave could be a character closer to that anatomy. Wonder Red autist could have a point with the speed. However a Bravely Default character (like Edea) as a Square Enix rep could also work with that code name.
The other possibility is that Sakurai may have caught on to data miners and have decided to put in junk data to fool us into thinking what a character might be, but change the data at the last minute. Steve was added in a data mine to Smash Bros before release before being pulled for example. It could happen.
That said what could be a whammie is after Joker we get two characters announced for Smash Pass. One being brave from Data Mine. And the other being a tease for the one after.
1c95f6 No.16355093
>>16354901
>I believe he was deconfirmed by one of the creators of Halo.
That was Frank O'Connor, and he is a known troll in the Halo community. Sometimes he just outright lies.
1c95f6 No.16355094
>>16354875
The game is far from perfect. It needs trophies, more game modes, and it needs to remove the short hop buffer.
2ab687 No.16355654
>>16354658
>If even the devs of the original game talk about how bland and uninteresting their protagonist is then why the fuck should anyone else want him in?
To be fair, it's just one person's opinion out of a bunch of minecraft dev team. But like what the other anon said early about one of the credible "leakers" having connections with one of the Microsoft employees, it seems like no one at Mircosoft wanted Steve to be in Smash Ultimate's Smash Pass. Add to the fact that Phil Spencer in the past is open to the idea of Banjo & Kazooie being in Smash Bros.
>>16355003
>This is more or less a hunch but I think "dream" would be a better fit for Banjo than 'brave"
He would of use the dream codename for Nights from Nights into Dream tbqh. Also, Disney's Brave features a bear and a witch :^).
5bc403 No.16355657
Why is the same guy spamming so many fake leak threads for attention?
Oh yeah. Because you retards give it freely every time.
2ab687 No.16355763
>>16355094
>trophies
That's never going to happen because there's like over 1300 spirits in the game. That would take a whole lot of man power to do that.
>more game modes
Definitely and that might happen in the future if Soccerguy goes for the Splatoon model of releasing more free content in the future. The mode I want the most to come back is Smash Run from Smash 3DS. I just love that mode so much.
081d48 No.16355814
>>16355763
I mean just look at how much post-release content was added to that Kirby game on the Switch. I think that example combined with the fact that something as huge as stage builder is already confirmed to be coming soon probably means we could expect Ultimate to be a completely different game by the end of its lifespan.
f88d47 No.16355939
>>16354785
>metal slug rep
i would be ok with this. But realistically speaking sakurai would most likely make a metal slug character an assist trophy at best.
>>16354933
>dry bowser echo
eh
>funky not dixie
No
>king boo
no
>not one, TWO bombermans
One is enough
>mimikyu
no
>genesect and a fucking washing machine
You went full retard
>bison
enough street fighter with ken
>some lizard shit
no
>monokuma
No
>More sword users with sephiroth
Your roster is shit anon.
ebee8e No.16356360
>>16282519
>Struggles to maintain relevancy and fails to meet the same cult classic standards that Golden Sun, Chibi-Robo, or even Sin & Punishment have achieved. He's within the same category as Sukepon, only he managed to appear in more games.
Yet he's one of the most requested characters in Japan, has a lot of call backs and was even in Sheik's classic mode
e6cf8a No.16356448
>>16281687
I more hate how the Playlist function is utterly fucking useless.
>"Listen to your favorite music while you battle!"
>Can't actually fucking do that
f121ee No.16356667
>>16356448
Would be nice if they added that
f84d6a No.16356679
>>16282383
I would really prefer if this didn't happen
434db0 No.16356722
>>16355939
>Dixie fag
>Genesect is a bad autidition
It's ok to be wrong about things
f4d08b No.16357446
>>16281687
I hate the fact that I don't have a switch so I can't judge the game. have yet to try out the old game on the wii though, assume they're similar
5b9e0a No.16357481
>>16357446
>have yet to try out the old game on the wii though, assume they're similar
Even if you're just talking about the single-player story mode (The Subspace Emissary), they're barely alike, and WoL does everything better… except maybe the FMV cutscenes and the bosses.
ce5ad3 No.16358596
>>16357481
>WoL
>doing anything better than anything
It's just a shitload of really bland and repetitive event matches. SSE was significantly better, and that's really saying something because I still don't like SSE. I think I'd honestly rather have that awful fucking board game thing from Tr4sh over WoL, at least that had multiplayer. In a perfect world we would get a more fleshed out Adventure Mode or Smash Run, but this is not a perfect world
bf6e7c No.16358602
how about instead of making Smash 9000 they make new ip
fda862 No.16358620
>>16357481
>>16358596
Is the Wii version worth playing at least?
6a6bab No.16358700
>>16358596
>Smash Run didn't get brought across
What a fucking missed opportunity. Bring in more maps, more events and have all the characters on the same instance of the map.
1587b6 No.16359216
>>16358655 (checked)
I'd much rather have expansions, also licencing fee's are a bitch.
d72571 No.16359238
>>16358602
Nintendo makes a couple of new IPs each generation. Smash was a new IP once too you know. Although thinking about it now I realise there are more Nintendo platforms with a Smash game than without.
The march of time is cruel.