17d4e0 No.16275070
It's time to become a normalnigger /v/, time to fall in line and eat loot and shoot microtransactions riddled shit
http://archive.is/mmxA5
97ad46 No.16275080
>Dungeon fighter online
WHAT
532862 No.16275081
>>16275070
nice manchild neckbeard
347f73 No.16275087
Most of those sales were from the bargain bin, this means nothing.
d57d5f No.16275117
>>16275070
Why the fuck can't good games make a lot of money? Why must everything popular and successful be complete trash?
17d4e0 No.16275122
>>16275117
In an alternate non shit timeline World in Conflict would have been massively successful and we would have gotten some sequels with more depth, variety and better visuals.
It hurts
9472e1 No.16275123
>>16275080
I came here to post this
What the fuck, since when was DFO making so much goddamn money so as to overtake weega weggums?
7fda98 No.16275139
Why even bother nowadays?
e0ec4f No.16275140
>>16275117
Normalfags buy what they're told to buy. Advertising used to be shit on TV, now it's shit on Youtube, but it's still the same shit. I hope Anthem's development time and marketing budget make it a flop anyway.
2ce357 No.16275143
Anything published by EA is going to make money. Doesn't matter who is developing it.
0b5378 No.16275144
f0e871 No.16275213
>>16275144
In addition to this, the min sys requirements suggest every sucker rocking all the newest hardware and no games to play on it to show it off may have given it a chance. Maybe that is why they released it so unfinished to get the release timing right.
dd66bf No.16275350
>no hype
>Andromeda ruined the Bioware brand
>even normalfags during all of it's previews and trailers were shitting on it for looking boring
>EA's tweet about how to buy the game was terrible and pushed more normalfags away
>surprise, game is shit, even worse then most other looter shooters out there
>controversies surrounding it rivals that of Fallout 76
<It STILL get's all that money
Make no mistake about it, it's still a failure since they want the game to be a long running service and it won't be supported for long, but it's still disheartening that after all of that so many were still curious enough to buy in. Hopefully it's budget over-exceeded to the point where it made no profit.
cd8329 No.16275361
>>16275117
>>16275070
>Worldwide
>Probably just counting the UK as Europe
Friendly reminder EA recent games all underperform everywhere but the UK.
939a9d No.16275374
$100m revenue isn't $100m profit tbh
791810 No.16275379
Invest in silver. You'll thank me in 8-12 years.
4897f4 No.16275393
>>16275379
Ghost told me to do that 10 years ago and it brought me nothing.
>>16275144
This. People are told what they want instead of actually genuinely wanting something. The worst part is that those who aren't privy to this shit will fall for it.
791810 No.16275403
>>16275393
So I'm not an investor, but I have 200 oz of silver physically sitting in my room right now. I heard that in the next 10-20 years, currently profitable mines will start to deplete, either forcing cheaper methods of extraction, or a premium in price.
Silver is also a precious metal with a lower scale than gold, which makes it easier to use as a commodity for trading than gold in SHTF scenarios. It's also actively consumed by industries (photograph processing, fertilizers, electronics), whereas gold usually just sits there as jewelery. Those were the reasons I bought it.
fcab16 No.16275405
I'm glad I'm not an online fag.
Single player or bust.
fcab16 No.16275408
>>16275403
Silver kills bacteria and repels evil spirits. If you goyim only knew, it would be worth more than gold.
791810 No.16275413
>>16275408
Thanks rabbi, you truly are my greatest ally!
e4e4eb No.16275425
I wish everyone in the world would come to their senses and start having good taste.
40f100 No.16275443
Regardless of what we are told plebs eat up by marketing reports, these companies wouldn't make a game I'd want to play anyway. My hobby isn't impacted at all, I've always been niche and always will be. Sucks for you FPS kids though.
9904d2 No.16275445
Who is even playing Candy Crush anymore? How is that the top grossing mobile game. It's been out for nearly a decade. I can't believe it.
d60310 No.16275482
>100 million at launch.
That is actually pretty shit by today's standards Anon. Smash Ultimate and Red Dead 2 did that kind of numbers before they where even fucking out.
7ae580 No.16275484
Easy, anons. Remember, the first parties take a slice of that pie, as do digital storefronts. (Usually 15-30%.) Also remember that EA had a target of it selling basically 1m units per week for six and a half weeks, which may have been hit but I doubt it, but also remember that Anthem was in the bargain bin the first day it went on sale.
Also, some napkin math:
>$100,000,000.00 * 25% (amount assumed lost to digital storefronts, etc) = $25,000,000.00
>So, generously, say EA made $75m even
>game's been in dev for six years, and Bioware Edmonton apparently has 800 staff, so we'll throw in another 200 staff for Bioware Austin and ignore EA publishing staff just to help things balance
>then assume that each staff member costs EA $150,000.00 a year inclusive of salary and all benefits and taxes the actual number could be higher
>If you take those figures at face value, EA pays $150,000,000.00 per year to keep all of Bioware going just with staff salary.
>Game's been in dev for six years, but not all of Bioware was working on it, so let's say 25% of the team was doing something else. So then the annual staff rate is $112,500,000.00
>Six years later, that staff total is $675,000,000.00
>Let's just leave out stuff like software licenses for dev tools like Maya or Photoshop, electricity and building costs, and all of that other 'tools of the trade' shit.
>Then, because it's EA, add $100,000,000.00 for marketing those Blomkamp movies aren't going to fund themselves, anon
>So now we're just $250,000,000.00 shy of $1 billion dollars
Even if this math is totally fucked and you cut it in half, you'd still be at $500,000,000.00. So, Anthem maybe made 1/5th of that and, since then, the brand has been totally poisoned, a major competitor came out Div2, and Anthem is what, like 20th or worse on Twitch?
The next financial call in April is going to be a lot of talking about bullshit metrics like 'time played' or 'engagement percentage' and maybe some talking about how much it made at market with nothing whatsoever said about how much they spent on it.
I don't see any situation where Anthem is anything but a financial turkey for EA.
4ba113 No.16275486
>GTAV at 8
I would have thought every person who owns a console would have bought that by now.
00303c No.16275494
>>16275123
It's an esport in South Korea and can run on toasters. Lots of people there play it.
dbff65 No.16275503
56becf No.16275512
>>16275087
They're not sales, they're fucking microtransactions. All those top games are "free" to play.
66fe57 No.16275518
>>16275486
I think it counts the microtransactions.
7ae580 No.16275521
>>16275486
SHark Cards, anon. And people who got banned buying new copies. Or greymarket shitholes like G2A buying shitloads of copies when they go on sale and then marking them up once prices go back to normal.
d7372f No.16275560
>>16275361
They need a license to not buy shit games now?
37e90d No.16275567
It's probably largely from whales, and the game is too bland to hold even their interest for long. It's disheartening, but in all probability short lived.
>>16275087
>OP mentions only revenue, never sale numbers
<It…It must have been bargain bin sales, at launch
Anon, you make me worry here.
>>16275374
Yes it is. You're thinking of total money from sales minus production costs, yes? That's benefit, not profit.
1f430a No.16275577
>>16275484
The really shocking part to me is that someone would still invest upward of a billion dollars in BioWare to make a game after Dragon Age 2.
829206 No.16275596
>>16275521
>greymarket shitholes like G2A
Praise G2A.
1c4e40 No.16275662
>>16275144
This, the average normalnigger gladly eats up everything their neon-gods shit into their mouth as long as it's shiny enough.
c3d44f No.16275687
>>16275350
But it made profit, a 100 millions apparently
9e76ba No.16275703
535e86 No.16275729
>DFO #1 PC
I'll forever be bitter at shit-ass Nexon America for taking a dump on the western release of that game.
39e717 No.16275737
>>16275117
Because money = evil.
6c0193 No.16275755
>>16275117
People think there's a big evil conspiracy to mind control people and make them a huge herd of sheep for some ridiculous world domination plans, but really there's just a perfectly normal cooperative corporate effort to homogenize everybody purely for the sake of increasing revenue. If the whole world is one demographic, you don't have to worry about catering to different markets or niches. This is why free thought is being clamped down on - not for political gain, but just to make it easier to sell shit because corporations are fucking lazy.
Humanity's over, but at least we're going extinct in a fittingly retarded and useless way.
c7b36d No.16275762
>>16275070
Yeah but how much was spent to make and market it?
415725 No.16275772
>>16275070
>giving a shit about the stockmarket to begin with
>making threads about shit games you supposedly don't play
Hi >>>/cuckchannel/
Bye >>>/cuckchannel/
Also
<normalnigger
you're even uncreative with your slurs,this shit is pathetic
b0bbf8 No.16275829
>>16275772
>you're even uncreative with your slurs
<uses cuck as a slur
8c171f No.16275847
>>16275567
>minus production cost
Don't forget advertising, that's a huge chunk of a budget. I wouldn't be surprised if they spent at least $100 million on making the fucking game
377fd1 No.16275855
>>16275350
And captain marvel wan't a flop. Then it turns out that a day past release nobody went and watched it. Corporations nowadays cheat to keep investors behind them. Disney rented full cinemas to inflate captian marvel numbers.
Ea knew anthem was not going to be well received and pulled a disney.
In the end, what they spent cheating is less than what they would have lost with a stock dive.
Now stop with with the blackpills. These tricks never last for long and corporations still take hits when they have to pull something like that off.
9dcd31 No.16275863
>>16275350
>Andromeda ruined the Bioware brand
It started with ME3 tbh.
87460c No.16275874
>>16275070
I don't want your entire gaming industry perception bubble to bust, but have you ever considered, and this is a very, very far fetched idea, that the jewish supplier of those numbers are also lying through their fucking teeth to sell you on a narrative?
e54454 No.16275876
Who the fuck bought Anthem
I've heard nothing even from normalfags about it since launch
e54454 No.16275886
Ok I've calmed down now
All it means is Anthem sold like 1.5 Million copies and thats assuming the game has no micro transactions
Looks like a flop then
87460c No.16275895
>>16275876
So maybe your common sense assumptions are right and you should go with that?
>>16275886
>All it means is
What it means is that you ignore common sense for the jewish lie that is presented to you. Tell me how can you accept a number coming out of capitalism, when the jews devalued money itself to the point where it's either totally worthless (fiat) or where it's worth only what the jews promise you it is (which is even more worthless)?
a69732 No.16275926
>>16275855
>Captain Marvel
Here's how that works:
>Investors give you X
>they expect to collect X + Y (interest)
>you make movie, spend half of X
>use the other half to buy up tickets
>the few people that actually bought tickets make you back Y and a little spare change.
>have meeting with new investors
>"Look at how sucessfull that was!"
>new investors give you 2 X because you were sucesfull
>spend X to pay back old investors, along with Y from actual legit sales
>use new X to make next movie
>repeat
It's been like that since the 70's or 60's, depending on what region of the globe you look at.
Whenever you have people perplexed that "There's more money being thrown at it, why isn't it improving?"
It's because half of that money is spent covering fuck ups to keep investors happy. And the bigger the fuck up, the bigger the cover up.
Now look at Bioware. EA provides X, gets Y from cosmetic sales. Rinse and repeat, nothing ever improves, but the investors are happy they get theirs back.
It's akin to Ponzi scheme that, bizarrely, has actual costumers instead of more investors but still fucks them over by treating them like unwilling investors that have no rights to return of investment.
It's also worth noting that in both cases, the buget you're running with is so tight (since you've spent half of it covering your previous fuck up) that companies frequently aim for that MVP: "Minimum Viable Product". If it's got everything it needs to be classified as a videogame, it's good to go. Yeah, it sucks/has no depth/progression is ass/story is an excuse/crashes frequently, but so what? It's good enough to not count as fraud, so it gets shipped. Costs are down, and that is all that matters when you're starved for cash.
c3d44f No.16276020
>>16275876
I know 2 guys that bought it but i always mock them for it
a69732 No.16276035
>>16275926
Should also add: that "little spare change" that additional sales make?
That actually amounts to a few modest million bucks. That's where the 7 digit salaries of CEO's and assorted ass-bandits comes from.
It's also the frequent downfall of AA studios: the guy running the show assigns himself and his friends a high salary based on the last game's additional sales.
Things seem to be going well, because there's a couple thousand schmucks dropping 500$ in a single game.
Then your newest game bombs hard, that little something extra you make is gone but… you'll still take the cash anyway. So there's two outcomes from that:
Either your next title suffers for it (less budget) or the investors do (less return). Since you want to avoid the second, the first will usually happen. If you DO need the extra budget, that's were pre-orders and assorted kikery kicks in: you need cash for your next project and you need it now. Fire up the pre-order cannon, time to target some whales.
The whole practice is a byproduct of a society too used to living/working based on other people's money. After all, an investment is still, mechanically, a loan, the terms just differ slightly. Communism is a terrible solution for this problem since it's pretty much "EVERYONE gets to use other people's money!", but capitalism on the other extreme is equally terrible with this "laise faire" attitude in the market.
b4b659 No.16276808
>>16275117
Because your definition of good game is wrong.
347f73 No.16276867
>>16275567
>OP mentions only revenue, never sale numbers
<yes he did sales revenue do not equal profit
You dumb nigger, If you left your basement youd see the game was already heavily discounted during its first day at release. And I remember full stacks of the game being sold on mass for much cheaper than it cost to make it.
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/02/reports-are-claiming-anthem-is-hitting-the-bargain-bin-on-launch-day/77598/
>they assumed it was gonna sell 6-5 million copies
>60*6,000,000 = $360,000,000
<they made only $100,000,000
>Anon, you make me worry here.
<…
>>16275512
>They're not sales, they're fucking microtransactions.
<even more pathetic they made nothing from selling the actual fucking game
dc00ac No.16276896
>>16276867
One, they make less off of physical sales.
Two, they make less of of console sales. Most likely, they were expecting 150-200 mil. Still under expectations, but not as hard as you guessed.
764126 No.16276906
Friendly reminder when companies post pure money figures they're hiding behind disappointing units figures and when they post only units they're hiding how much they were discounted.
8650bc No.16277027
>>16275361
>Friendly reminder EA recent games all underperform everywhere but the UK.
Why do my countrymen have such shit taste.
c8ed11 No.16277030
>>16277027
Are there any anglos left in the UK?
347f73 No.16277031
>>16277027
>countrymen
So youre pakistani? ;^)
8650bc No.16277092
>>16277030
>Are there any anglos left in the UK?
Outside the city's yes but i still cant go to the supermarket without hearing languages i don't understand.
f29e39 No.16277102
>DFO
Holy shit China… I mean it's a good game but god damn.
c5553f No.16277106
>>16275445
70 year old filthy dumb boomer scum and niggers.
877271 No.16277153
I could have sworn DFO shut down years ago.
764126 No.16277166
>>16277153
It did then it came back.
c8ed11 No.16277190
>>16277092
RIP Brittania, should have listened to Hitler and Mosley.
8760e7 No.16277534
>>16275494
it's more than just in south korea.
f9f2a7 No.16277573
>>16277190
There is a reason the people of the Isle of Man are legally allowed to shoot people from the UK with arrows.
4ddadc No.16277715
>>16275070
Is that faggot wearing eye shadow?
88496a No.16277720
>>16275379
Less than that, my friend.
1619f5 No.16277816
>>16275070
What a punchable fucking face.
c01352 No.16277825
>>16275687
>>16275703
And it probably cost more than that to make and market.
21e57e No.16277894
>>16277205
They also have to be flashy, showy, and appeal to graphics-addled children who don't actually want to play games, just to watch their favorite streamer play them.
3332f5 No.16277957
>>16275070
I used to play dfo. Good for them.
f9f2a7 No.16277969
>>16277816
PICARD DID NOTHING WRONG!
388a0d No.16278038
>>16275703
If your reference for economics can't make the difference between profit and benefit, it's time to switch because you're probably being subverted by kikes.
a9e392 No.16278156
>>16275596
I got banned from a few places on (((steam))) for posting funny ascii art like this.
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0e863e No.16278285
>>16278156
>funny
That's not funny though.
9093bb No.16278293
>>16275070
>Anthem didn't even make it on the top for PC
I almost don't even believe it sold that well on console, that's bullshit.
29b5c1 No.16278307
>>16278156
>hehe I post literal advertisements for free and get banned for it, im an ebic memer right guys?!
6a7cfc No.16278339
i cant even fathom imagining someone passing LoL with how much that fucking game makes and shills out in ads and animated content
I've never even heard of DFO
764126 No.16278345
>>16278339
Most of these games and charts and made to fool retarded investors. ASSFAGGOTS in general are the Potemkin village of video games.
25e872 No.16278442
How are dota and lol still alive?
1733df No.16278446
>>16275070
That company has no fucking idea how much money Dota 2 makes, since Valve isn't a public company and also doesn't share data with strangers like that.
Therefore it's save to assume that all their other numbers come from the same dark place they pulled the Dota earnings from.
764126 No.16278449
>>16278442
They probably take a single trailer's electricity bill to maintain.
396c24 No.16278461
>>16278442
>game is already fully made, just needs, at worst, a map re-haul after a patch
>costs to maintain are just however much it is to keep servers up and new content and 'alternative game modes' which are basically just minigames in a prebuilt engine
>cost associated with paying some slackjaw to make custom outfit #4544456
<retards throw dosh at it without thinking for the outfit
Reminder that last years TI is the largest E-sports prize pool in history and it's 100% funded by Dotards with no contributions by Valve
6db4fd No.16278473
>>16275070
How the fuck is Pokémon GO still making so much? The other day I saw a fucking homeless man playing it on his bicycle. How much of his begging money do you think he spent on it?
56becf No.16278509
>>16278442
Addicts and whales.
764126 No.16278596
>>16278473
I get the feeling Ultra Sun and Moon underperformed so they cranked up the shilling afterwards to mitigate it. I know that year or so window before then it was waning heavily and was on the verge of being flat out dead but then out of nowhere they started pumping out updates.
c62423 No.16278614
>>16275070
Where did they get this data and for what territory is this?
764126 No.16278791
>>16278614
It says worldwide, which just makes a lot of the numbers look terrible really.
29f6af No.16278792
>>16276035
>>16275926
These posts were very thoughtful, so I figured I'd cap them.
f95a40 No.16278849
This is fucking gay. How do people forget how awful bioware is? I bet they're faking the numbers though.
764126 No.16278857
>>16278849
I can't imagine the people buying a looty shooty game are the same ones who cared about Bioware's gay porn directed by Joss Wedon simulators.
c77a85 No.16278890
2669ce No.16279235
>>16277205
This. The top games are elaborate showpieces. No different then a fancy car or a new house to show other normalfags that you are cool enough to be in a specific social circle. It is better when the games themselves contain the ability to talk/play with others so all the players can wank off each other.
f94e07 No.16280626
>>16278792
>>16276035
>>16275926
to be fair EA can get away with a lot of shit since they make literally billions off of fifa/madden retards, numbers go up so shareholders don't care if all other venues stagnate (sims) or are outright duds while killing the whole franchise (bf5 or the bioware name).
f17785 No.16294869
>>16275117
Normalcatlle buy what marketing tells them to buy and nothing else.
cd8329 No.16294871
>>16278473
>How the fuck is Pokémon GO still making so much?
It’s Pokémon.
a0d147 No.16294885
>>16277205
>top selling games are essentially elaborate chatrooms.
Normalniggers don't even care if there's no chat entirely. Nearly all popular games either ban you for not being gay in chat or don't allow chat at all. Fortnite has no chat function at all, only a mic for teammates in squad mode. PUBG is the same. LoL, Overwatch etc are like these horrifying social experiments on adolescents that was in reality ZOG figuring out how to build the great panopticon for maximum social control and forced tranniehood.
And when there is chat, you probably don't want to lose your platform/game account for praising Hitler or calling someone a fag so you're going to self-censor and that takes the real fun out of it. Even as chatrooms these games are dead. Maybe Twitch and Reddit chatrooms, those are allowed.
ef3d6c No.16294911
>>16275070
>one game I don't like is successful that means everything is shit
>Slippery slopes
>appealing to emotions
>one sentence and done
Summerfags need to leave REEEEEEEEEEE
9aaa04 No.16295385
>>16278038
The term "benefit" is not used in business and economics in the way you seem to think it is. From that alone it's obvious you're an ESL or you simply have a warped understanding of economics in addition to being an ESL. Revenue does not equal profit at all. You can have 100 million of revenue and yet still end up at a 100 million loss, retard.
>>16280384
<boomerposting
<tor
>>>/leftypol/
52c922 No.16295462
>>16280384
>low effort dnc
Where the fuck do they hire these guys?
This is pathetic, we had better shills and jidf years ago.
bc0804 No.16295533
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5defad No.16295539
>>16275122
Bannon is the sole reason why WiC sold poorly. Fuck Bannon.
126194 No.16295556
>>16295533
>Woman
>Short hair
>Clearly thinks she's 10 years younger than she actually is
>Disgusting accent
Opinion discarded
000000 No.16296865
>>16280626
>muh infinite money
764126 No.16296877
>>16295539
>Fuck Bannon
Yeah, General Leo was way better.
25e09f No.16296894
d2d87f No.16297048
>>16295539
He redeemed himself in glorious nuclear fire.
Plus he was only a cunt because his stepfather was a boomer.
11f35d No.16297093
>>16275117
long story short
Casualfags and normalfags
Why waste time making games to a niche audience, if you can appeal to a LARGE audience doing minimal work.
2e358e No.16303822
>>16277205
Essentially this. FPS games like Call of duty had the same thing happen.
a5d5b5 No.16304077
>>16277205
I never understood the appeal of the type of game where you just run'n'gun with auto-aim, and play online with a bunch of niggers, this is basically all console shooters. Going all the way back to n64 007.