/v/ - Video Games

another upcoming game that i no longer look forward to

>>16267534

Who cares? Why would we care? We're literally just going to pirate it. Where it came from initially is irrelevant to us, except insofar as sometimes different "source" versions require you to put mods in a different place. This will only be good thanks to mods, and even then "good" is relative.

>Every single AA dev that had a remote chance of making a good game is hypnotized by ancient Chinese secrets

Well let's hope a better crop of AA studios rise out of the ashes when thwy go bankrupt.

>>16267559

You'd have to be retarded to not at least realize that even if you refuse to buy any games, you should care about game sales because they show how well the studio is doing. No studio, no games.

>>16267534

not that surprising, Feargus has his nose to the short term money trail, especially after PoE2 bankrupted Obshitian

not to fear though, I'm sure microsoft will dissolve them sooner rather than later

I feel like an old man not knowing which one this was. Was this Todd's space game?

>>16267570

no, this is Obsidian's Fallout 4 like

>>16267570

>>16267573

Allegedly it would be more like F:NV, but I don't hold out any hope for Obsidian nowadays.

>>16267567

except with these "revenue assurances" by epic, the developers dont even have to sell alot of units to do well.

didnt pheonix point devs say the exclusivity deal alone would fund their company for the next four years?

>>16267567

from a purely financial sense, especially for studios that don't sell that much, it does make sense in the short term

long term they're fucking themselves over big time, but who cares about that when the quarterly report is due

>>16267580

You're right, and that's worrying. However, I wonder if Tencent will change their tune when the game sales don't meet expectations. This may end up being a one-off. The alternative is that they double down and make these studios dependent on Chinese funding, which sounds like a good idea until you remember that no one has any interest in this store yet.

>>16267580

iirc he only said that even if every backer would get their money back, they'd still be in the black and could easily finish the game.

>>16267597

This is so hilariously one-sided in favor of Steam that it’s not even a war.

>>16267534

>yet another Epic Games Store exclusive

And nothing of value was lost.

>>16267597

It was obvious this was going to happen. Just look at the video-streaming industry (of both western shit and animu), it has been suffering for a long time of this same cancer, it was just a matter time for a(nother) jew to come and disrupt Steam's almost-monopoly on the market and now it's all gonig to shit. Not that it wasn't bad before, but now it will be even worse.

Good times to exclusively pirate and play all the shit I have in my backlog.

>>16267618

How long until it's discovered Obsidian is just as lazy as Todd & co. and there are reused assets from F:NV in their new game?

>>16267587

Not even reddit can summon the enthusiasm to shill the Epic Store, and every day there's some new scandal about spying on the users, security leaks or just pissing people off by making games exclusive.

The hilarious thing is that they'll never be a threat to Steam. Outside of Fortnite they have no "worthwhile" exclusive to entice people with, which I suspect is why they're so desperate to get any developer that whores themselves in front of them on board.

>>16267618

We are probably looking at 18 months from when it gets released to when it goes on sale on steam.

That is a decent amount of time to fix any bugs.

I refused to buy X-com 2 until it was on sale and that meant that all the initial game breaking bugs that existed on release day had been fixed.

>>16267608

Unfortunately I think Epic has the advantage here.

>>16267634

And they both hate the japanese.

>>16267634

I can't imagine anything more soul crushing than developing games for the chink market. Most of these developers are in for a rude awakening when they realize chinks aren't all that hot and bothered when it comes to trannies, faggots and ugly dykes.

>>16267637

Its advantage is that its scum that is paying developers.

Which ends up hurting players.

That's it John, time to take down the entire internet and in fact take down the entire infrastructure, and just let chaos fix everything.

>>16267634

>muh chinks

biggest stores in China are steam and WeGame

Epic being controlled by chinks is a massive fucking meme in the first place peddled by anons who don't know how shares and stakeholders work but are constantly looking for something to be outraged by

>>16267637

Well, when those Chink Overlords as Epic read that GOG was hurting when they reported some layoffs because they were too full of themselves to know that Gwent was a waste of time, that the 90/10 deal is hurting them, they're moving forward to getting the market pie. And gotta question is how long do they think is Fortnite gonna fund their shitty platform.

>>16267649

Do you remember Bluehole's copyright lawsuit against Epic for Fortnite "stealing" their idea by delivering a cheapass game with good netcode that didn't ran like shit? remember how Tencent told them to knock it off because they are partly owned by Tencet? because that's a major indicator on how much influence the Chinks have on them

>>16267649

You're really bad at this.

>>16267534

According to some random from twitter. Just wait for official shite.

>>16267645

>>16267656

I think the 90/10 is the advantage here.

Consider this, why is Steam so wildly used, inspite of DRM free options like Play-asia or GoG? Because it had all the popular video games, popular being the operative word here.

Maybe Epic will bribe AAA companies for exclusive AAA games on Epic, and then you'd bet your ass mindless idiots who don't know, or are willing to know better will flock to epic just for their new popular games.

You might bring up Phoenix Point or Ashen as a counter, but in the former's case the Devs are complete fucking morons who claim this move can let them remain in the black for a while, while completely glossing over the point that getting your game funded is not in the slightest the same as selling your game. And in both game's case the games are relatively obscure.

I'd like to point at Fortnite as being in their favor but I genuinely never gave a shit about the game and I barely even know what it looks like or how it plays.

Epic: let’s not win people over with the quality of our store, but instead let’s force them to use our gameclient if they want to play the games!

It’s amazing how these companies think and act

>>16267672

>Playasia

I meant playism. The guys who have Ace of Seafood and La Mulana on their store

>>16267672

Steam has the advantage simply because it was there first. It's the same shit with ASSFAGGOTS and card games where no matter how good the competition is most people don't want to abandon the time and money they already spent so they never budge from their first game.

Good, it looks like shit and there are a couple of retards here who are sucking its dick because "muh Obsidian"

Despite looking like a Borderlands 2 clone with more niggers in it

>>16267673

Gamers will swallow anything in order to play a game they're excited about.

>>16267567

Nah. I want companies like this to fail, miserably.

I'll will be pirating every epic store exclusive just to stress them out. I don't even give a fuck about playing them.

There is a market for good games (hell, even half assed games can turn a healthy profit), but this kind of anti consumer bullshit is unacceptable. Let the greedy fucks who take these chink bribes die off.

>>16267672

90/10 is a major winning strategy, but for how long? even I have to question the expenses running an online store and getting more features on their bare bones spyware platform, they can shit out content for Fortcuck faster than getting those security breaches in their own platform. Steam is still ahead because it's still the convenient platform for the normalfags and hardcore valvedrones.

>>16267587

Since chinks aren't as rabid with negrification

and sodomy propaganda they might just stop buying up garbage games to sell on their botnet, they're not (((BLACKED))) which will exist and keep churring out bestiality porn at a loss until holocaust or heat death of the universe.

>>16267672

> like Play-asia

Because they have exorbitant prices and I'd rather go to Japan or make friends with a native than use their services?

i remember Eiyuu Senki limited edition not only costing triple of what I paid for it in Japan, but also not having the keychains with billy the kid and the pirate.

>GoG

no gaems, abandonware and indieshit from soyguzzling faggots

>>16267673

Gamers are subhuman niggercattle, stop being so entitled LOL.

>>16267683

>90/10 is a major winning strategy

How is it a winning strategy if you sell 1000 games on Epic, but could sell 10,000 games on Steam instead.

>>16267685

> to sell on their botnet

The Epic store is blocked in China. This is entirely for export and competition control purposes.

>>16267688

Because it depends on the games, but so far the way they've been attempting their "winning strategy" feels absurdly mismanaged. I would have seen it working on AAA games and not somewhat niche titles.

>>16267688

What do you think that means for the developers? they're giving exclusivity deals for them, I don't know if they're getting paid or it's really enticing, because those devs who fucked over their fans are saying "It's a good deal for the game, our fans, and the company!" while vigorously defending Epic and their bullshit lies.

>>16267688

<b-b-but you get a bigger cut per sale?

(^:

>>16267683

Microsoft did this with their Xbox line during the 360 era and tried it early in the xbone life cycle.

I don't think it'll work as well on pc, and ultimately it will probably cost Epic dearly (360 division ended last generation in the red, despite being the most commonly used console), but in the short term this will fuck with pc gaming norms.

We're already seeing the fallout a little, you can bet that Valve is changing how reviews work on Steam because Epic doesn't allow users to review games at all on their platform. Valve will be forced to cater to the developers more and more, as Epic tries to buy their way into the digital marketplace.

Hate Valve all you like, they're far from perfect, but they've easily been the best company to have as the default caretaker of pc gaming. Maybe you don't care, but Linux gaming is more viable now than its ever been, so while it's still a niche, it's good to know we have that option.

>>16267693

They're getting paid. The Phoenix POint devs made that clear during their AMA. They asked Epic how much they would get for having it on the Epic Store for a year an dthen took the deal.

>>16267693

They're getting paid. The cucks making Phoenix Point likely got upward of $2 million dollars to vomit their turd on the Epic Store (it has cost them $800,000 to make so far, and they've said that if they had to refund all the crowdsourced cash they'd still have enough money to develop the game and stay in the black).

Who have they enticed so far? Fuckwits over at Deep Sliver that likely got bribed on the side as well since neither the developer nor the THQ had any idea this was going down, or shit like Phoenix Point that is just as likely to be a massive turd that gets crushed by XCOM and Obsidian that are in deep financial trouble.

>>16267708

Didn't ms buy Obsidian?

>>16267705

The Ashen devs too. Yeah, I bet half the people in this thread don't even know what Ashen is, or if it's been released, and a quick look at the game shows something that couldn't be less desirable if it had a dick.

Phoenix Point I feel was a loss though. I had some expectations for the game but now I've ended up pirating Long War again to keep me company until openapoc/Xenonauts 2.

inb4 Xenonauts 2 Ebic store exclusive

>>16267618

I am tempted to play another Obsidian game, even after all that has happened, but the cartoony graphics are really putting me off.

>>16267702

Still waiting on Valve's move, because they haven't done shit but" removing the fat" with their VR devs that didn't deliver and Artifact being a grand failure, only thing major they've done is prevent review bombs and letting some of their fag management play moralfag censor police in the Steam store.

>>16267705

>>16267708

It's a bullshit thing to do, but how much are they getting? if the above rumor is true, how move of their Fortcuck revenue are they using to poach games and bribe the developers?

>>16267719

Phoenix Point devs said that even if they pay back every backer they'd still be in the black, so around 2-2,5 million. It's not a strategy Epic can keep up for a long time. Sooner or later the Fortnite money will dry up and should their store not be able to generate profit by itself, it'll fail.

>>16267713

Yeah, but God knows what price Obsidian had to pay to have MS get them out of the red.

>>16267717

But why? All they've released since going independent has been dogshit.

A bunch of drunk Slavs made a better Baldur's Gate clone that is less pozzed than PoE despite taking place in the most pozzed fantasy setting imaginable. Another bunch of Slavs made a great spiritual successor to Fallout. An autistic Serb did likewise. There's a wealth of new cRPGs for anyone's taste without having to suck up to the cucks inXile and Obsidian.

You have to remember that all the writing talent responsible for Alpha Protocol, KOTOR 2, Mask of the Betrayer and New Vegas is gone.

>>16267719

>but how much are they getting?

My guesstimate is around $2 million for Phoenix Point, likely more for Metro.

>>16267728

That's the point, how long can they keep it up? I expected a Blitzkrieg from the the assholes who keep shitting out Fortnite content, but they've been retardedly lazy and slow, momentum is gonna stop and they'll just end up pissing away their goodwill from the non-Fortnite drones.

>>16267730

If that's cash up front, then it's big, and along with the 90/10 deal, still seems like a bad deal in the long run.

Did you guys not read >>16267700? The original outlet that tweeted this deleted the tweet

The source in OP's article is literally a Resetra thread that's based on the original deleted PCGamesN tweet.

>>16267742

Being real or not won't stop people from talking about what Tencent and Epic are doing.

>>16267719

>It's a bullshit thing to do, but how much are they getting?

As the rumor go the chinks just make them a check of "dev costs + 10%" which basically makes sure the dev make money for the game while hopping they themselves will get that from their cut, but likely disregarding the probable losses as it's a promotional event for the plateform.

It's obviously not something they can do on the long run and can only do because Tencent want aggressively Valve position and have the money to throw around to do that shit.

>>16267742

Not to mention the PCGamesN article doesn't even bring up The Outer Worlds at any point beyond the title.

>>16267739

>then it's big

Not really. You're trading away all the goodwill of the people that crowdfunded your game (what basically amounts to a free marketing team of autists ready to shill the game everywhere), all the goodwill from the Steam costumers (numbering in the hundreds of millions), the whole PC gaming crowd and any good publicity for a measly $2 million and the off chance people will bother to switch stores to play your game.

And remember, Steam users already have XCOM 1 and 2, which are known quantities, on top of a shitload of other X-COM lookalikes to choose from. Also, who is likely to have the Epic Store installed? Fortnite players. Do you think Fortnite playres give a flying fuck about the creator of X-COM and his glorious return? Most of them weren't even born when X-COM was first published.

>>16267756

You tried sounding clever but you come off as the biggest retard.

>>16267763

Most of them probably weren't born when Enforcer came out.

>>16267772

That would be an ideal outcome, but so far Epic has been dropping the ball at every opportunity.

>>16267752

Not sustainable, but we'll see what they can poach later this year.

>>16267763

Yeah, mentioned that, and same problem with Activision pissing people off who play Black Ops 4 and Destiny 2 in PC, most Blizzdrones only play the addictive blizztard games and no other, while the Battle.net app might be free and user-friendly, the fans who play on PC don't have the usual stuff when playing in Steam, so they're also ticked off. There's been plenty of begging by the CoD fanboys and Destiny faggots for the games to move to Steam.

>>16267772

>make their service better

Where is it bad? Just curious here. The epic store seems way worse even on a basic level so far (haven't tried it, and won't try it).

>>16267570

Todd's space game is supposedly is development hell because the team is practically having a civil war over being forced to use gambryo again.

>>16267785

But they are leaving the "supposed" review bombs there, and just taking them out of the rating system.

I mean it has its pro and con for both sides. But this is not the doom and gloom totalitarian censorship.

If the game has something wrong with it, whether it be a, what was the last fad, denuvo security, it will be plastered everywhere. Only sheeps might not see it .

>>16267567

>no studios, no games

GOOD. I'M SICK OF JEWISH PROPAGANDA.

>>16267618

>oy vey we will totally buy the game

No one believes you.

>no thanks

That's on you, moishe.

>>16267560

Money talks.

>>16267800

>no studios no games

>Good I'm sick of merchant tricks.

This, there are plenty of good, decent and fun games made by a single person or tiny team of people, not studios and I'd rather have that than the current situation.

Terreria, Banished just two off the top of my head games made with just a single guy or tiny team.

>>16267813

?

>>16267730

>A bunch of drunk Slavs made a better Baldur's Gate clone that is less pozzed than PoE despite taking place in the most pozzed fantasy setting imaginable

What game? Maybe talikng to that Pathfinder game?

>>16267772

Steam has no competition because they are such a giant and this is one of the stupidest moves a dev could make.

If you release your game on Steam, it'll get bought just because some faggots like to have games, while the Epic store is new and hardly has any people on it.

Steam cannot be killed or competed against, but it can implode due to Gabe's incompetence.

>>16267580

>Taking a revenue deal from Tencent so that you don't have to actually sell any copies of your game

Eventually studios will wise up and start taking revenue deals so that they don't have to actually make their game. You know, like Kickstarter.

>>16267719

Valve is probably on their way out tbh. As youve said, they aren't making any moves, except dumb and lazy moves. So I'm not defending their current behavior.

But as I said before, hate on Valve all you like, but you can't deny that they've been a pretty decent caretaker for pc gaming.

Everyone will miss Valve when they're kicked from their top spot, because no other company in gaming has been as hands off and overall chill.

Epic, EA, MS, etc all have shareholders to appease and satisfy. Valve is still privately held and aren't forced to behave in the more retarded and greedy ways most other game companies are.

>>16267785

>Epic doesn't let you review at all.

>Valve being forced to adopt more developer "friendly" systems because Epic is catering 100% to devs at the expense of the consumer .

>Valve is the bad guy

Get the fuck out of here you stupid chink shill.

Just chinks doing as chinks do. Flooding the market with tons of cash and cheap low-quality products/services so all competitors are forced to degrade their own products/services in order to be able to keep up with the lower price expectations, but in the end consumers suffer from shit products.

>>16267567

>No studio no games

Wrong. Just completely wrong.

>>16267889

>with tons of cash

Tons of pending loans. Chances are none of the developers will be paid the money they were promised and will go bankrupt regardless of the game's success, which is the point.

>>16267864

Maybe you just shouldn't buy their products at all.

>>16267884

Dude, stop spamming this shit every time. You are just a tool who thinks that this is going to let you look cool among peers, but in reality, you are are colossal faggot.

Nobody in China is getting banned for moronic copy pasta. Now fuck off 基佬.

>>16267534

>if the information is to be believed

>source: Resetera

Not that I'm hyped for rick sanchez's debut in an RPG, but could people be getting bamboozled? So far, everybody says it's a rumor.

game looks like shit im not interested

>>16267996

nostalgia works in odd ways. you forget the shitposts and only remember the good times. many times, things in peoples' lives change that indirectly effect something else without them realizing. perhaps you're just not spending as much time posting.

>>16268098

It's pretty funny when they try to push that, isn't it?

>>16267833

No you idiot, normalfags will happily get both Steam and Epic Store clients. Did you forget shit like uPlay is a thing that exists?

>>16268136

normalfags might have uPlay, but good luck ever getting them to buy stuff from it. You can bet that not even half realised that uPlay actually had a store you could buy from.

>>16268173

Really? All the normalfags I know just look at some of the "best deal" sites, pick the cheapest offer, and buy it from wherever it is even if it required the to get a whole new client. They don't care. At least 4 I know bought R6 siege on uplay because it offered a better price at the time than Steam.

>>16267937

Yeah, I suppose I should accept VALVe grabbing shady practices that move them closer to Epic Store.

>You Valve hating faggots really got common around here ever since Epic started pushing their launcher.

>This whole line is just literal fabrication

Do you work in a place where calling people retarded makes them bow to you or something?

>>16267948

>stop spamming this shit every time

Hey anon The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命

>>16268242

I think you missed the point.

Nobody cares about your opinion. I said it a few minutes ago, you're gullible and therefore unimportant.

>>16268245

Sure thing braniac. You surrounded yourself with like minded retards and can't stand reason and logic. Have a good one twenty something faggot.

>>16267772

It would be competition if they were fighting on equal terms. Buying out developers who had planned steam releases instead of funding developers to make exclusive games for their store isn't competition. Also, Epic's online storefront is bare bones to say the least, at this moment that its shocking how much they don't have over steam when it comes to features. Surprising with how much money they can drop to buy developers but they can't get a basic designer.

Competition is good but Epic's version of it is mafia in style. Throwing money around until they beat the competition artificially with no sense of innovation involved . Unless they change their tactics and up their design standards where they can be compared to steam, I don't think anybody will accept Epic and wait the year fro the exclusivity deal to run out.

>>16267534

Never trust Feargus.

Damage control shills ousted, yet again.

https://twitter.com/OuterWorlds/status/1108423193138618369

http://archive.is/rnVOb

>>16268407

Wow these guys hate money.

>>16268460

They wouldn't have released Deadfire if they didn't.

>>16268460

>>16268470

Kickstarter should've clued anyone in by now they just want to get paid to masturbate on people's faces.

>>16268470

>Deadfire

That name sounds familiar. The demon titty game?

>>16268481

Pillars of Eternity 2. Haven't played it nor heard anything from it but from what little I've heard about the first game it seems to be a piece of shit. Can't find any decent torrents either to see if it's actually decent or not

>>not on steam? fuck you

but why, why does it even matter?

Epic Store isnt closed platform, its a very simplistic curated one

none of the console trickery is there thou, its not horribly locked down

>>16267534

Why are devs taking the epic store gamble? It’s unproven, if anything it’s an obvious negative. They should know by now that every game set on the epic store gets bombarded by negative fan reaction

I’m willing to bet that the cut that epic gives them is overall less than the revenue they would make on steam or any other platform except like the microsoft store

>>16268503

Dumbasses don't understand that short-term profits aren't that good in the long run.

>>16268503

Well, for Phoenix Point my suspicion is that they know the game is shit so they're trying to get as many shekels as possible before the general public catches on.

Same shit with Outer Worlds. I mean, the game was being developed when Obsidian basically got bankrupted by Deadfire, and knowing their general incompetence, doubly so because they're making something completely alien to them, I can't imagine the game being any good.

>>16268518

I want hex maniac to become addicted to my taint sweat.

>>16268532

Thats fucking disgusting anon, you could have at least picked semen or something.

>>16268532

same

>>16268508

No, they understand perfectly

What short term profit is even better for is their Resume.

This is why noone cares about long term profit anymore.

>>16268407

>>16268453

Rumor confirmed, another game poached. The money lure is too great for them.

>>16268453

You find it suspicious how "open" comments are about pirating epic store games?

>>16268626

Yeah they're going to have tons of nice little cropped posts to use as evidence for more DRM pushing.

>>16268634

>epic hires piracy-shills so tencent can sell a bootleg denuvo that actually has a literal crypto miner.

Sounds very chinese.

>>16267534

Oh no, some shitty game from nuObsidian is exclusive to Tencent Store! How confident of them to ask for chink money to make this hot turd profitable instead of relying on paying customers, says a lot in what state Obsidian is nowadays.

I hope nearly all of those companies go this route so that industry will be held together artificially literally by chink money from Tencent. When they won't be able to sustain it anymore it going to produce really devastating crash.

>>16268662

It's the Windows Store, might as well be an exclusivity deal, nobody uses that shit.

EPIC GAME STORE DOESN'T SUPPORT PAYPAL OR PSC

>lol, just give your credit card information to the Chinese

>doesn't have a market either so you can't autistically game the system's funbux to acquire game licenses without paying "real" money for them

why would anyone install it?

>>16268662

MS owns them now and this is pretty nice way to see that they're also fine with Tencent taking over the market. I'd wager they'll either bow out of the console market for a chinkbox or hand over xbox to them within the next few years.

>>16268662

Must be a concession to Microsoft, being bought by them and all, but still funny as shit that MS already gave up on the Windows Store

>>16268514

>nearly bankrupted by deadfire

How? The game sold reasonably well and most, if not all of it’s funding came out of crowdfunding. There is literally no way someone can be this incompetent.

obshitian have always been commiefornian so they jump at the chance to be 100% communist controlled.

>>16268689

It flopped hard, estimated copies sold as said by Obsidian was 110K by the 6 months it was out, compared to the first game. You can search articles for that story, but the Pirate sequel that nobody wanted didn't appeal to the fans of the first game.

>>16268701

Also because the first game was shit, as well as Tyranny. They released two duds in a row and nobody was lining up for a third.

That's what happens when you chase away all your talented writers to make room for tumblrtards.

>>16268711

I remember pillars 1 being received okay but I think they overestimated their force in the market and spread themselves too thin. There was no reason for a company who claimed to need kickstarter to make the stuff they want to be working on 3 or more games at once.

>>16268701

Damn. I played it, and the writing was indeed shit, but it’s the sort of thing that I expect the normalfags to buy. Did it undersell pathfinder:kingmaker? While that game had its problems, it was a much better game than deadfire.

>>16268711

>>16268728

The first game netted them a tidy profit along with expansion that recoup some of the development cost, but not huge enough, but for some odd reason after Tranny dropped and flopped, they decided to go full retard with a Pirate-themed sequel, Obsidian has a tendency to go from one idea to the next with disregard. They still haven't learned shit.

>>16267785

Not gonna defend censorship, but you can literally look at bad reviews - and exclusively filter reviews to show negative only - if you want.

But then you realize 90% of negative reviews are literally some subhuman brazilian faggot saying "DIS NO WORK MACHINE ME COMPUTER NO GOOD GAME BAD HUEHUEHUE"

>>16268460

>Wow these guys hate money

On the contrary, they love money, that's why they decided to sell out.

>>16268508

>Dumbasses don't understand that short-term profits aren't that good in the long run

The entire industry is run by short-term profit model with the exception of small devs and there is a reason for it which is normalfag retards who infested the industry and easily baited by marketing which makes them "hype" and pre-ordering cat in the sack. This is nothing new, if anything this exclusivity shitshow was bound to happen because of short-term profit model popularity.

>>16268748

Pathfinder:Kingmaker or Chris Avellone's revenge actually did better than Deadfire even though sales wise, they're pretty close.

>>16267534

Welp is not just the 12% cut, It was confirmed on a previous thread by some anon posting archives that Epic not only pays the publisher/devs for the exclusivity deal but also guarantees them certain amount of revenue for actually signing the deal and if the game fails to meet that revenue in sales, Epic pays out of pocket. Given how many news we have had recently about these exclusivity deals it begs the question how much money Epic is burning just go get games on their storefront. Another thing I've noticed is that no major japanese dev/publisher has jumped on the Epic bandwagon yet.

>>16268682

Outer Worlds is pre-Micro buyout

Microsoft doesn't have control over distribution of it

>>16268809

Everyone already hates them, but developers are so far from the average player they don’t know that

Obsidian games are like pseudo normal fag tier. What I mean by that is that they rely on word of mouth and hype to sell. Giving it to epic deflates a lot of excitement that normalfags have for it because even they hate epic. You could look at Twitter for examples of that

>>16268842

I meant it as a concession to their new owners by also selling it in a shitty and abandoned store that nobody uses, Outer Worlds is pre-MS buyout, but that Steam page is sitting on 2020 or 2021 on release. So good job Obsidian once again, their management and business skills are one and the same, pure shit.

>>16268837

This might just be an instance where pirating them actually works. Just tell everyone to pirate to force Epic to sink more money in.

>>16268837

Jap devs don’t really have a need to do the deal I don’t think. Revenue from their own country is probably good enough that they don’t want to jump through extra hoops. Tencent might not want to help nips either

>>16268878

There's that recent deal Squeenix did with Tencent to get their IPs in the Chink mainland, and also the reverse with Soyknee getting Chink indie games into the wider market on the PS4.

>>16268888

Nice Quad-8s

>>16268837

Don't forget that they have Tencent behind them. They could easily pump more money into it for more control over the company. I wouldn't be suprised if they let Epic burn all the money they have and then buy them out to keep the Epic Store going.

>>16268942

> Boy I sure love having console war tier horseshit brought to the PC platform!

To be fair, there were always Nvidia vs ATI shitposters.

>>16268895

I guess that’s true but I was thinking of smaller devs

>>16268888

I want to drag my sweaty nutsack across clownpiss's face.

>>16268957

>chinkjew.png

We gonna need to stock up on those.

>>16268895

Both SE and Sony are despised in Japan to a big extend and can be considered westernized, the latter is even run by westerners now, they abandoned Japanese market completely just by moving their main HQ to commiefornia. It is a logical step for westernized companies to go after Chinese market next.

Did Fortnite really make that much money that Epic can throw ridiculous amounts of cash at developers to abandon their morals?

>>16269814

Tencent is worth 522 billion dollars and owns 40% of Epic.

>>16269814

They aren't even really throwing that much around to be honest. According to Pheonix whatever, the Xcom clone, it was 2 millionish bucks which is chump change in publishing figures. They're currently only buying out middle range developers who are pretty much all in financial trouble.

>>16269814

> to abandon their morals?

>abandon

???

>>16269814

Don't forget Tencent is most likely behind this and want to get this malware installed onto the computer of as many people as possible in the hopes that someone with important information installs it. Why both trying to hack the computer of the president/FBI/Ceo when you just have to get their snot nosed little shit tTmmy to install their program.

>>16269814

fortnite made more money last year (3bn) than their entire lifetime projected earnings of UE4 licensing deals with studios using their engine. valve averages about 3bn/yr as well through steam but they sell many games, fortnite is just one game and it was pure profit for epic.

>>16268460

>Wow these guys hate money.

Epic most likely paid Obsidian a ton of money to do this. I'd speculate as much as 5 million just to be on their launcher for the first year of the game's release.

>>16267772

Take a look at fortnite. It's basically just reddit condensed into a videogame. I don't hold out any hope of Epic hosting much halfway decent except UE4. I expect big-names like blizzard can peddle their games off of steam, but anyone else is probably going to struggle, especially someone like obsidian.. Their F:NV days are long gone. Anyone who played pillars 1 could see that.

>>16267778

problem for steam is that epic has the PRC money propping it up + fortnite whales. so the "mistakes" they make is nothing for them

>>16268878

>Tencent might not want to help nips either

Chinks still call the second world war, "The War to Resist Japanese Aggression," no shit they don't want anything to do with Japanese corps.

>>16269814

>abandon

More like developers never had morals and thats why old as fuck games have more concisse gameplay and mechanics than your 3 week old modern games with modeled vaginas

>>16267559

because it's anti-consumer? Steam is shit and the Epic Games Store is worse, and this practice of taking multi-plat games and forcing exclusivity on them is shit precedent. This is not how competition between these platforms should go down.

Ignoring the problem does not make it go away.

>>16271159

Not to mention that the practice is probably illegal. Acting as sole distributor of your own property (origin, uplay) is one thing, but contacting companies already in a deal to distribute with someone and then offering them money to create a monopoly with you is a crime.

Epic viewed the PC as synonymous with the console market and thought that they could get 'exclusive' deals, but that isn't how it actually works. What is even worse is that they were stupid enough to make it a timed exclusive, meaning that these companies have no actual qualms with releasing on steam but are withholding the games to create an artificial monopoly.

This is going to result in a shit show to end all gaming shit shows. I'm willing to be the FTC has already been contacted by steam and that they are remaining silent on the events on advice from their lawyers. This shit might result in long term customer rights laws being put into place if we're lucky, or at the very least seeing greedy as fuck publishers shit themselves over the legal nightmare they just walked into.

>>16268837

So, basically, the Epic Store will be full of games made by developers that know their game is shit and won't sell.

>>16269814

Let me put it to you this way.

Epic Games/Tencent got Voiceover Pete Blacklisted from Fivver because he made a viral meme about stealing money from your moms credit card to buy Fortnite skins.

Think of Pewdiepie back in his hayday when he actually had an army of 9 year olds. Now imagine every one of those 9 year olds whining at their mothers or outright stealing from their mothers to each give >$40 for merch.

That's the kind of financial power Epic Games has.

That's why Fortnite kids NEED to be bullied once they get to middle-school.

>>16271468

Sadly, they won't get bullied, just like fags, furries, trannies, etc. don't get bullied into suicide during their 12 years of schooling.

Leftists have neutered proper bullying.

>>16271468

>That's why Fortnite kids NEED to be bullied once they get to middle-school.

Why not bully now?

>>16271477

If your older you should bully them, young kids look up to older kids. They want to be older and will follow the lead of older kids.

An older kid remarking on something poorly can completely erase months of marketing in seconds.

If you aren't an adult yet you could try to do the world a favor an get to know some younger kids on your bus, club, etc.

Get to know if they play video games then teach them some patrician taste. Tease them if they play fortnite, you know, like roll your eyes at them or something.

That probably sounded drastic but honestly the way that fortnite is such an immovable cist of cancer people need to take drastic measures.

>>16271495

Middle school is where you get bullied.

By highschool they will grow out of Fortnite anyways, but by then they will have spent years metastisizing the cancer internally, picking up poor spending habits and becoming physiologically imprinted on by it for dominating their childhoods.

>>16268866

They fucked up hard. They, as a company relied on their writing and kept claiming that their technical issues were because of publishers, as well as the sheer amount of cut content from their games. Or rather, blatantly cut content. Their first game out the gate was a bland game with meh writing and they front ended the backer NPCs without touching them up. So an early impression is massive walls of text with weird snowflakes just hanging out.

>>16271542

This is still fucking retarded either way, but to be fair, there was two Ass Creed games that year, one for current gen consoles and one for last gen consoles, this image just cuts that point out.

>>16271482

Don't get your hopes up, it's just unsubstantiated rumors at this point. But supposedly the reason we've seen nothing on Starfield besides barely even a title card is that the whole game has been restarted several times and can't even lock in basic features yet because the Zenimax/Bethesda heads want it built on the Creation Engine while also essentially asking for fried ice when it comes to the actual game mechanics, but a large number of the developers assigned to the game want to use *any* other fucking engine since there's no way they can produce anything close to the intended concepts with the CE and the two sides are kind of stalled over this.

>>16271580

>It's just unsubstantiated rumors at this point.

Wouldn't surprise me. Over time zenimax has been exerting more and more control, like how they reneged on the deal to never make another bethesda dev studio, only ever having one bethesda. Wouldn't surprise me if they're the ones who forced the fallout 76 shit too.

>>16271580

That would be lovely. Their name is already in the dirt, and it would be no surprise if the devs really wanted to escape the issues with the engine. I don't think it will fix anything, as a lot of their issues are with the devs not fixing shit.

>>16271477

Bullies almost always have some sort of mental issue going on. Not sure why you want more people to have fucked up homes and heads so they take it out on other people. Thats like swapping brain cancer for Alzheimers.

>>16271602

Honestly I think its good that normalfags are starting to see the current vidya game industry for what it has been for like a decade. Plus it seems like a greater number are realizing how shitty DRM is and how cancerous Tencent is.

>>16271637

I wouldn't so much say Hollywood/Western media influences vidya as much as "Muh progressivism" is the the true culprit. Lets not forget that they get actors no longer based on their quality, but based on what color their skin is which is paralleled in vidya as well.

>>16271616

They are realizing it, but then they buy the garbage anyway.

>>16271667

Technically, if we go with that then Hollywood/Wester media is also to blame for spreading that bullshit alongside their modern and mediocre storytelling formats.

>>16271733

I always blame the root and not the tree because its easy to get rid of the tree, but the roots are another matter.

Does the Epic contract say they aren't allowed to give it a DRM free physical release? If they are allowed then they should do that but they won't.

>>16271806

Phoenix Point is guaranteed 2mil for the first year to cover lost sales since Epic has fortnite bux and chinese cum dollars to back them up. I'd imagine all the other games have the same setup.

>>16271821

That's 50.000 copies sold at $60 ($12 going to Steam as per their 30% cut).

If your game isn't absolute garbage it would certainly sell more than that simply because there's so many people that use Steam. I can't believe they are so stupid to assume that the Epic Store userbase is anywhere near comparable to that of Steam, let alone that most of those people are actually buying anything that isn't Fortnite shit (if they're buying anything at all).

>>16271828

Don't forget the chink spyware and the little to no support of features. I saw a post about them only adding in a search feature to their store a few weeks ago.

>>16271844

I doubt they NEEDED a search feature before then. Why bother when your library is like 20 games?

>>16271829

Got a bigger version?

>>16271829

>jpg compression

>>16271580

>>16267792

There is a zero chance of this being true. Anyone with any sort of talent or technical capability has long since been fired from Bethesda.

>>16271828

>If your game isn't absolute garbage it would certainly sell more than that simply because there's so many people that use Steam. I can't believe they are so stupid to assume that the Epic Store userbase is anywhere near comparable to that of Steam, let alone that most of those people are actually buying anything that isn't Fortnite shit (if they're buying anything at all).

Here's the thing anon. Epic is straight up offering money NOW, instead of having to wait for them trickling in through sales of your game. They even offered to cover the cost of any lost sales. They're literally bribing the devs to not release on Steam, and being the short-sighted kikes they are, they grabbed it with both hands and damn the long term. Gotta make that quarterly report look good.

>>16272749

I guarantee the money promised will never be delivered and it'll bankrupt every company involved.

>>16272751

I sincerely hope so too, but I have no doubt Epic can pay that ten times over if need be because of Fortnite dosh.

>>16272746

>decrypts and monitors internet browser traffic to get you passwords and datamine what sites you go to

>”LEL who cares if it sees my steam games”

I want the chink defense force to leave

>>16272759

It isn't a matter of them being able to. Chink investors are economic terrorists first and foremost.

>all the shit devs pick fucking EBIN STORE EXCLUSIVITY

The absolute state of them, couldn't happen to worse devs. Then again I don't expect PC gamers to use any amount of restraint like the consumer whores they are Zoomers seem to unironically enjoy Cuckerlands, jesus Christ Zoomers. They did enable Steam after all.

>>16273095

Absolutely criminal if true.

The only winners are pirates.

>>16273143

Tencent is a chinese company. It has to follow chinese law. Chinese law requires spying on users for political reasons.

The Epic store is a front for the chinese government. It sounds stupid, but it's that simple.

>>16267534

well, time to pirate it, I guess.

>>16273252

Until they push games as streaming only.

>>16277080

and companies make zero sales since the biggest markets have the shittiest internet.

>>16272779

Easy tactic:

1. Promise cash for exclusive sales

2. Delay payment until company goes bankrupts

3. Buy up company/assets

4. ????

5. Profit

>>16267948

>>>/oven/

>>>/ricecooker/

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