3db0c2 No.16254450
I remember there used to be regular Payday threads on /v/ all through 2014 until around 2017, but the updates got weirder and weirder.
They started adding YouTubers as characters and heists where you stole goats. It eventually stopped feeling like Payday and started feeling like a nasty meme orgy.
The first game was a serious heist game about four guys who robbed banks and killed people, the worst it got were the meme masks. The second game went off the rails and became a big joke that doesn't feel right anymore.
c766c6 No.16254467
there you go. now read all that shit nigger.
840d1d No.16254477
>massive autistic image dump
anon pls
c8b335 No.16254479
>>16254450
The developers got greedy. That's where all the meme shit came from because memes are easily marketable and dumb teenagers/college students (the group that probably spends the most money on microtransactions and DLC by far) eat that shit up like candy.
>>16254457
>>16254460
>>16254461
>>16254462
>>16254465
>>16254467
>The long version of what went wrong is so long winded it needs it's own folder
WEW
bd8c25 No.16254484
TLDR
the game sucks, went from 4 guys doing crimes that would net them millions and being a HEAT rip off to a barebones game filled with endless DLC and more crossover content than original payday content. the devs are hacks that ran money laundering schemes too
3d9204 No.16254491
Too much DLC and memery is what happened with PD2. I wish there was a mode to remove all the bullshit, I just want to play with the original four heisters without all the random oh cees donut steel
Going away from that, I have a confession to make.
Whenever I got a cop to drop his weapon and cuff himself, I got a weird sexual kick of out it. What the fuck is wrong with me?
be0359 No.16254499
>>16254450
The company is busy bankrupting itself.
Summary of recent events:
>Raid: World War 2 came out: flop
>payday 2 support extended for another year, payday 3 supposedly on "fast development track"
>Overkill's The Walking Dead came out: flop
>Starbreezer CEO resigns
>Starbreezer files for reconstruction
>Starbreezer gets their offices raided, 1 person arrested for (now cleared) suspected insider trading
>The Walking Dead license pulled from Overkill
The company is having failure after failure. The only successful product they ever brought out is Payday 2. They've milked the fuck out of that, but never managed to recreate the same success.
32d6c0 No.16254504
Payday 2's storyline ended with the crew robbing the White House, and digging underground into a hidden ancient alien pyramid to reincarnate Bain into the president.
That should tell you all you need to know.
Fuck everything.
6cbdbf No.16254506
>>16254450
That artist really likes Sydney.
3db0c2 No.16254511
>>16254506
I don't get why, Sydney isn't exactly pretty in-game.
3db0c2 No.16254525
>>16254491
>Whenever I got a cop to drop his weapon and cuff himself, I got a weird sexual kick of out it.
Fuck me, same here. I like seeing them quiver and shake in fear
9a734f No.16254556
>>16254484
>jewes looks like an adams family reject mutant
>jew looks like his head is concave
The fuck.
1654ba No.16254752
Remember when Payday 1 came out? Things were simple back then.
c7e8f3 No.16254768
>>16254504
>resurrect bain
The fuck? I just sped through the final heist just to see what the initial ending was. The fucking "secret" they touted for so long was that garbage?
32d6c0 No.16254775
>>16254768
No no no, they don't just resurrect Bain, they reincarnate him into the body of the 46th president of America.
c7e8f3 No.16254781
>>16254775
Jumping the shark so hard they achieve orbit.
3db0c2 No.16254798
>>16254781
They also did it with alien technology that was buried under the white house
551323 No.16254947
>>16254450
>>16254506
I WANT TO BULLY SYDNEY UNTIL SHE MARRIES ME
8f15d5 No.16254954
how do any of you fags find this monster attractive?
0194af No.16254995
>>16254479
tbqh, giving a single shit about lore in online multiplayer games is beyond retarded, especially if the game in question isn't even a RPG. To me it's the ultimate litmus test for clinical autism.
c7e8f3 No.16255004
>>16254954
Like everything else, its better when its drawn by a non-feminist.
075f73 No.16255034
It's now been long enough since I last played that steam has diverted back to purchase date on my steam account.
90% of that game time was me playing while listening to podcast with the game volume at 20%
3db0c2 No.16255128
>>16255034
I did the same thing all the time holy shit
ff2968 No.16255160
>>16255034
I bought the game when it came out, and while it's been a guilty pleasure ever since, I still come in and play, mainly single player, with a mod that gives me all the items, even those from DLC packs I don't own, it's a pretty comfy time, just blasting away at cops while listening to music, or a podcast.
a0ec57 No.16255685
>>16254506
I wonder how you can waifu a heister from Payday 2, especially Sydney. Clover was the best girl, and "best girl" wasn't even good enough in this game. Sydney was straight up "HURR LOOK AT ME I'M CRAZY FUG OFF I AM ANGRY" like some poser on TikTok, except with a machine gun. Is it because she was the youngest at the time? I don't know about Joy, I dropped the game a bit after the Diamond Heist and never went back.
Housewife character pack like some autist posted in a thread here never ever maybe for the best
d46d3a No.16255708
the Vr mode isnt too bad, just sucks i have no friends to play it
bd8c25 No.16255710
Why dont we just make our own coop crime game?
But keep the story serious and have levels based on actual crimes and heists instead of crossovers and meme shit. And also with out the game breaking bugs and leg and arm hitboxes.
>they had to take coolface out of the game because the owner said he was gonna fuck them over
a0ec57 No.16255727
>>16255710
>>they had to take coolface out of the game because the owner said he was gonna fuck them over
The fucking coolface has a copyright or something?
124ab9 No.16255733
>>16255727
A mexican by the name of Whynne owns the trademark.
No surprises there.
a0ec57 No.16255740
>>16255733
>A fucking beaner
2fce1c No.16255744
I don't think memes and DLC made the game fail. I think shit game design made the game fail.
>All missions basically boil down to loud or quiet
>Loud missions become a boring tedium of headshots
>On higher difficulties they boil down to running the best shit at the time, be it duel deagles, shotguns, dodge-tanking etc
>They usually have a massive payout for their difficulty regardless
>Quiet missions are a fucking disaster in multiplayer
>Assuming you can get 4 competent people together, 4 people not making a single mistake for 30 minutes straight is hard to consistently pull off
>If you fuck up the mission either ends or goes loud, the latter of which is retarded since you cannot go loud on high difficulty with stealth gear
>Usually don't have a payout remotely as close to that of a 20 minute loud mission
>In both instances, gear and levels is more important than actual planning and gameplay
>If you want to grind to high levels, shit like Aftershock exists
bd8c25 No.16255749
>>16255744
Dont forget the constant drilling all the time even when stealthing, its boring as fuck just to wait for some drill to finish in 5 minutes only to spend another 5 minutes throwing bags around.
a0ec57 No.16255759
>>16255744
>>On higher difficulties they boil down to running the best shit at the time, be it duel deagles, shotguns, dodge-tanking etc
Worst addition they might have made was the One Down difficulty. Shit boiled down to using Inspire/Nine lives builds for everyone, made armors absolutely useless, fucked up some heists by making them straight-up bullshit with the damage cops dealt even from across the giant map in Goat Sim, and before they got nerfed, everyone use the crossbows, locked behind DLC. All for what? A difficulty mask. No wonder why people resorted to cheat through it.
b9531f No.16255814
BAIN?
I haven't played 2 but I'm absolutely sure The Heist is better.
a0ec57 No.16255846
>>16255814
Aye.
I don't know about Payday 1, but Payday 2's quality went down the drain quite fast. DLC-to-win shitfest, microtransactions when they said there wouldn't be, movie and game tie-ins up the ass to point that 66% of the whole game is pretty much linked to another movie or game. The gang went from being regular bank robbers to international terrorists who steal nukes, and pretty much what c766c6 posted. I used to really like it, but once I dropped it, I never played it again.
8a5f4e No.16255849
>>16255004
It is hideous when drawn by the artist that was being dumped in this thread, too. It's straight up impossible to make that creature's haircut look good.
3db0c2 No.16255864
>>16255814
2 has amazing weapon customization that's literally unmatched in any other game that isn't a military simulator, but The Heist is the better core game.
bd8c25 No.16255878
>>16255864
>good weapon customisation
>doesnt do anything special or has any in depth options
>just slap on something, shorten something or remove something
>everything is behind drops and you cant just buy an attachment directly
54c4fb No.16255885
>>16255727
>coolface
Mods are faggots, get rid of the shit filters
a0ec57 No.16255891
>>16255849
I tried to see if there was a mod to change her haircut, but the only mods I saw were to shave her side burns and give her a less blocky face. An improvement, but not good enough.
>>16255864
>amazing weapon customization
It sure isn't only one scope and silencer per weapon and you have many other things, but is it really worth the gun gore?
b9531f No.16255943
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>>16255864
>>16255846
Fuck it, post music. Best track coming through.
743350 No.16256003
>>16254504
>Payday 2's storyline ended with the crew robbing the White House
Isn't that mission full of anti-Trump wankery?
a0ec57 No.16256054
>>16256003
>Robbing the White House
Alright, this is pants-on-head retarded, Anti-trump shit or not. Glad I abandoned ship.
Any chance GTFO might be good?
52f088 No.16256078
>>16254954
Is that a woman with mutton chops?
3ef700 No.16256082
Dunno if they had to pay an animoo studios to have them shill the game, or the company didn't care and had the girls wearing the masks.
c10711 No.16256102
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The music was really good though, shitton of tracks do choose from
>>16255943
>not posting razormind
hue
7c348d No.16256121
>>16255727
TLDR some faggot who didnt actually make it copyrigthed it, and everyone hated him because hew as profitting of something he didnt make. But he kindof became a gatekeeper by sending cease and desist to any shitty meme game, comic, tv show or ANYTHING and anyone that tried to use it without permission so he is not so bad i guess.
a0ec57 No.16256125
>>16256082
I think it was just a reference here. I hope so, at least.
3fdfe9 No.16256129
If you think about how much video games get attacked and blamed for random shit, these swedecuks were obviously very scared of some cop shootout being linked to their game.
So they decided to abandon reality and make it a meme game. That people never asked for,
b71a4c No.16256147
>>16256129
That's not really true. They're talentless faggots who couldn't figure out how to make bank heisting and gallery robbing different or interesting on different jobs, nor could they think of more fitting weapons so they just started adding random shit off the top of their heads. Their reddit-core audience loved it, so they just kept adding more.
c10711 No.16256161
>>16256147
also keep in mind the engine they used was originally for racing games
3fdfe9 No.16256215
>>16256161
Hmm I always forgave them for the abysmal quality of thier outdoor maps because I thought the engine wasnt up to the job.
c10711 No.16256219
>>16256215
the dumb blurring they used at long distances always pissed me off, like you were always in the desert.
the masks were fun though, made pic related without even trying
473f73 No.16256265
Swedecucks at Starbreeze and one oc thr CEOs at Overkill gutted the company, even before the microtransaction bullshit.
Most of the devs moved to 10 Chambers Collective and GTFO created by one of the disgruntled CEOs.
1bb366 No.16256339
>>16254954
there's mods to fix that
apparently this mod got discontinued but i got the version with no sideburns that basically turns her into a druggie biker waifu
3b7cc5 No.16256461
>>16255894
Can I get sauce?
a0ec57 No.16256839
>>16256339
She looks like she has a second mouth on her neck, right under her chin.
1bb366 No.16256905
>>16256839
fucking kek i can see it
here's an in game screenshot
a0ec57 No.16256922
>>16256905
The face might be a bit better, but I can't see it well because of the shadows and the giant haircut (You can't save that haircut anyway, even without the sideburns).
276310 No.16256929
>>16256922
There was a time when that haircut was cyberpunk as fuck.
a0ec57 No.16256933
>>16256929
I don't know, must be the color, or that now, haircuts like these are associated with the usual harpies.
a55bf7 No.16257139
>>16254484
They managed to make Hila look like even more of a man than normal.
Also, why are these kikes even in the game? Where's my MDE character pack?
a0ec57 No.16257171
>>16257139
>Also, why are these kikes even in the game?
Something about funding an expensive-ass lawsuit that they won prior into launching the DLC anyway.
ee0a77 No.16257232
>>16254504
>Payday 2's storyline ended with the crew robbing the White House
Fantastic idea ngl.
979e0b No.16257373
Payday 2 improved massively on the original in turns of soundtrack, but the sheer amount of DLC, funky balance, bad memes, and as was pointed out, overdone crossovers, really ruined the feel of the game and made it massively bloated too. Makes me glad I only picked it up after it went F2P, if I'd paid money for what it turned into I'd be butthurt.
I'd rather play The Heist.
3db0c2 No.16261712
>>16256125
Wew that robot is a Loader from Borderlands
988f36 No.16262789
>>16257373
>soundtrack
All everyone posts when it comes to PD2's soundtrack is Razormind. What else did it improve? I didn't play the game so I have nothing to reference and the other tracks I've heard to sound like inferior versions of Razormind.
631b52 No.16262820
>>16262789
You might need to go further in the soundtrack to have really good songs, Armed To The Teeth and Death Row are some of my favorites.
988f36 No.16262827
>>16262820
Armed To The Teeth was pretty fucking good. Thank you.
I got PD2 during some event where they gave it away for free. I also recall they had a DLC unlocker or some shit, is the game worth playing with a singular friend with that DLC unlocker?
bd8c25 No.16262910
>>16262827
>is the game worth playing
No, the AI is shit so even with the OP DLC weapons you're stuck with 2 dead weights that cant lift bags, repair drills only shoot cops, phase through walls and pick people back up
db49b1 No.16262930
>>16256339
how is this fixed
988f36 No.16263087
This reminds me, where is Viklund now?
1b901f No.16263094
>>16263087
In 10 Chambers, making monster noises with oranges for GTFO.
5c8842 No.16263095
>>16263087
Working on GTFO
b71a4c No.16263096
>>16262910
You can throw bags at the AI and they'll pick them up, but they drop them randomly, so it's really a gamble. And now you can actually customize your AI's gear, and you can pick a special perk for each of them that gets stronger the more bots you have on your team. For example, you can get a perk that speeds up your interacts, and if you have four AI, you can lockpick a safe or deposit box in five seconds or less. You can give your AI magical infinite range inspire that has a 2 minute cooldown, you can pick a health regen perk that heals faster than Muscle if you're running 3 bots. And last but not least, you can give them armor piercing ammo and M14s, which they fire with perfect accuracy on full auto, and they'll instakill any shield or bulldozer that spawns on the map. That's about the only good thing Goyverkill has done for the game
988f36 No.16263097
>>16263095
>>16263094
Tell me what GTFO is, anon search engine.
It's just Sci-Fi L4D? That's it?
5c8842 No.16263099
>>16263097
Basically, yes.
799188 No.16263108
>>16256121
>intellectual property jew
>had nothing to do with making it
>not so bad
c85ee6 No.16263396
>>16254450
payday 1 was a fun and cheap co-op game to play with friends
payday 2 is a DLC shitshow with schizophrenic design principles, shitty missions and bad writing
979e0b No.16263421
>>16262789
The Diamond Heist track from PD1 was already pretty good, but it got a whole lot better with PD2.
ec4f0e No.16265898
payday 2 is a total mess of a DLC purchasing simulator but it works surprisingly well in VR since VR players dont have to deal with recoil at all.
I never knew joy till I beat an hombre to death with a fat wad o dosh
510f80 No.16266172
>>16254954
it just happened
3b2e7e No.16266197
>>16254450
>What happened with the payday series
A ton of things, actually.
>Release Payday WW2 skin as a stand alone game. Game is 10 times more grindy as you now also have to do specific taskes to unlock FUCKING WEAPON MODS and each individual heister soldier
>Bombs HARD, company more or less tried to fund a competitor to their PD2 game, supposedly, because the CEO was friends with the devs
>Buy the walking dead IP to fill time while they make PD3
>Take 5 years to make because the CEO was blowing money on all kinds of stupid shit, including a buggy unfinished engine the overkill devs were forced to make a game on
>Couldn't make the game on it, so at the very last second they mandated a switch to U4, but devs now only had a year to get it out the door
>The walking Payday launches, flops HARD, does so bad the company is now close to bankruptcy
>Flopped so bad the IP owner Skybound cancels the fucking game, CANCELLED THE FUCKING GAME after release, before they even finish the season 2 DLC they were trying to sell.
Their last hope atm is a Psychonauts 2, and a fucking Payday mobile game they suckered Universal into investing cash on. Most of the blame for the stupid shit in Payday 2 is supposedly on Bo Anderson, one of the creators of the IP, supposedly, he was the one responsible for the microtransactions they tried to blame on 505 Games(to the point where he fucking disowned his brother, who was very much against it and seemed to be the one responsible for making the game) the hollywood promotions and shit like that.
7db35c No.16266263
The community used to be pretty lively. Fun memories. I don't touch it these days.
b38df1 No.16266328
>>16254450
Essentially what all the other anons said, greedy devs who have no idea what they are doing, glad I left after the diamond heist before it got really,really bad with the meme stuff.
Something else to note is that they most of the "balance" changes they did changed the entire build system for no apparent reason, in addition to this they only added a difficulty higher than Deathwish when everyone stopped playing the game and its a complete meme difficulty where your forced to use extremely specific strategies and items; the worst possible type of "difficulty"
db2e74 No.16266351
>>16266263
>lively
And clinically retarded.
5800cc No.16267068
There's no reason the game shouldn't be handed over to trusted modders and have them push occasional big content updates like TF2 does.
Leaving it to rot is a huge fuck you to the fans.
988f36 No.16267081
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>>16255943
I just realized there are two(?) versions of The Heist's soundtrack, I even find these two versions on Soulseek and such. Which was supposed to be the official one?
I don't particularly remember Green Bridge's drums sounding this harsh.
bd8c25 No.16267370
>>16267068
>trusting Modders™ with anything official
>Ever
So you want the game to die over petty drama, have the modders force their agenda into the game or a chance of 1 person sperging out and runing everything?
6c4f06 No.16267396
>>16267081
>Re-recorded version of Green Bridge. I also modified it a bit and added an assault build-up part.
1feeaa No.16267502
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>>16266263
MarioInATopHat is always fun to watch
21ea6a No.16267527
Just bought Payday 2, since I've been interested in trying the game for years. I'm playing solo right now, so I don't fuck up the groups of other players. I was in the mood to use shotguns, so I'm running a shotgun build. Any tips or suggestions?
1feeaa No.16267538
>>16267527
online is the only way to go, just make sure you join lobbies with a low difficulty and players around the same level as you. I've always used shotgun/tank builds, the IZHMA is my personal favorite shotgun.
only way to really learn is to just play
759468 No.16267555
>>16267527
You got in at the worst time. The game is bloated and weird as fuck now.
988f36 No.16267581
bb5fa8 No.16267940
>>16255885
Wtf when did trollfface became known as coolface?
4c2f45 No.16268825
>>16267940
Is it strange that coolface is now more obscure than trōllface?
513e7e No.16268845
>>16267527
>Shotguns
>Payday II
>SHOTGUNS
The game fucks up a lot of things but even now shotguns are insane. In the good way.
>Damage done is by a single pellet and doesn't stack.
>This means 1 pellet does X damage if it hits one person, and 8 pellets do X damage if they hit one person.
>So poor accuracy (large spread) is actually good.
As for build:
>Go enforcer tree
>Go up shotgun tree
>Get 'Overkill' basic
>Every time you kill someone, your damage with shotguns is increased by 75%.
>There is no cooldown on this. No. Cooldown. At all.
ff2968 No.16268846
>>16256054
It's not anti trump, there's not even a single trump reference in the whole game, you're there to steal pardons or if you know the secret unearth an ancient machine from underneath the white house
f26c70 No.16268873
>>16267527
Yeah, get a refund.
1feeaa No.16268948
>>16268846
>there's not even a single trump reference in the whole game
you seem to be forgetting the masks literally titled The 45th and God Emperor
63af79 No.16268963
>>16268948
If I remember right, they made a joke that they'd put the mask in if Trump actually managed to win, and when he did they actually put it in instead of pussying out.
a0ec57 No.16269333
>>16268963
Didn't they say they would put the mask of the candidate who would win the presidential race?
4b8e0b No.16269338
bd8c25 No.16269375
>>16268825
yes, because thats what its originally called and newfags always out themselves trying to correct it back to Tr0llface. its better this way
2f9f39 No.16269396
Reminder that you can download every version of the game through Steam if you own the game, all the way back to day 1 with no Gage Ass Packs. I've tested SmartSteamEmu on the first release and it works. Even online play works. Here is a guide:
https://archive.is/c8gi8
This might work for other games as well.
988f36 No.16273236
>>16269396
But is it worth playing, even with the DLC unlocker or is the game fundamentally shit and I'd be better off going back to The Heist? My brother's been craving some heisting and we got the game for free during some event or other.
95cb9b No.16273310
>All the love and development to loud
>All the different builds you could make for loud
>Stealth hasn't been developed at all since payday 1
More than all the jewry, that's what really killed my interest. Think of all the cool gameplay you could make.
<Hacking minigame to disarm alarms and recover from detection
<Guard disguises
<Mastermind can make a hostage guard answer his own pager
<Mastermind can call the security company and convince them to turn off a tripped alarm
<Enforcer can intimidate guards into giving up keycards or codes
2f9f39 No.16273931
>>16273236
>But is it worth playing, even with the DLC unlocker
It is, with DLC unlocker and mods. I've been playing the game alone with AI enhancement mods such as Iter, Full Speed Swarm and Better Bots for quite some time now. Too bad the game is now over 40 GBs long. Maybe i'll "downgrade" to the older versions and see if i can find an appropriate version of BLT.
4fd3ba No.16274845
>>16268846
SOULJA TAN
SOULJA TAN
SOULJA TAN
66a106 No.16275653
>>16273931
So what are the consequences for using the DLC unlocker?
200c7a No.16275917
>>16275653
You get marked as a cheater ingame while you use it. The tag immediately goes away when you stop using the unlocker though.
But don't parade it around on the steam forum for obvious reasons.
4d9114 No.16275953
>>16275653
>>16275917
also, by default you will get kicked as a cheater when you join a lobby(host can choose to disable this, but it's on by default)
This won't matter if you're hosting your own lobbies though
66a106 No.16275968
>>16275953
How anal are people about it?
Fucking hell, there is no good reason for 50 fucking heist and weapon DLCs. The Heist had what, two neat heists and a couple of weapons?
4d9114 No.16276006
>>16275968
fuck if I know, I usually just host
200c7a No.16276257
>>16275968
The option to auto-kick cheaters is checked by default when you create a lobby. Hosts that uncheck it have no problem with anything short of bag spawning and actual cheating from my experience.
You should know that the cheat detection is a joke. It only gets triggered by dropping a lootbag while simultanously still carrying one (which can get you a false-positive if you have bad ping), having more than 120 spent skillpoints, invalid mask patterns (no idea how that works), and using DLC content you don't actually own on steam (DLC unlocker)
759468 No.16276279
So, where's that Dozer porn?
The original artist deleted all of it and I haven't seen it since the original PD2 threads we had years ago.
1490cb No.16276285
1feeaa No.16276286
>>16276257
It always baffled me how lax they were about cheaters, it's like they didn't care that people were abusing their game to hell and back
6fa626 No.16276410
>>16269333
>>16268963
Regardless, calling him "God Emperor", and giving him glowing eyes, on top of the description of the mask (which I recall, was also on the joke) shows they at least have a sense of humor, regardless of what we assume they think about the matter.
>>16273310
The Golden Grin Casino heist forced us to get creative, because we were a three man team, and two of us sucked at stealth. In particular, we decided not to grab our weapons until almost everything was already done, because that way we were able to inform our competent friend of everything he had ahead without being caught. This made me think about some sort of Social infiltrator role, which would allow you to spy without being caught, and also distract guards or people by talking to them. This would also require the devs to add some "restricted areas" not even Social characters can cross without getting caught (think everything past the metal detectors in the Golden Grin), but depending on how not supposed to be there were they, you could get out of that place with little more than a slap in the wrist ("you're no supposed to be here, leave immediately", etc). For fuck's sake, this happens in a lot of heist movies; it's what the Beautiful Lady in a Fancy Dress character always does. I can't believe the fuckers did not think about it.
Given the game has gone full sci-fi, they may had as well incorporated Mission Impossible technology, like hookshots, gliding drones, hyperrealistic masks and voice changing, insane pulley systems to suspend some characters from the roof, etc. Also possibly a Driver role which acted as the extraction team. Fuck, the possibilities were endless.
95cb9b No.16276465
>>16276410
>Engineer on roof with binoculars and a tiny camera drone disguised as a fly or something
>Engineer can hack the intercom system and play music to distract guards
>Motorized grappling hook is super janky and exploitable, can let you go faster than sanic if you time it right and can also open up new infiltration routes due to vertical infiltration
>If the alarm is tripped and the cops arive, you can hide from the cops until they give up and drive off
95cb9b No.16276470
>>16276465
>Can actually make the guards back off by threatening to kill hostages, buying time to make an escape, but they'll be watching closely for an opening to save them and arrest you all
6fa626 No.16276593
>>16276470
>Disguise yourself as a hostage to play fool when the police comes, or even move bags around while your teammates draw attention to their guns
>Take on and take off the fucking mask as needed, if you are still undetected
>Possibility of buying a stash during Planning Phase where you can drop another set you can change to if SHTF (yes, I know there is a perk for this; the ability not to reset after going loud shouldn't be a perk)
>Checkpoints for stealth inb4 git gud
>Going back to the last checkpoint costs a considerable amount of money. Same for killing civilians.
>Enforcer gets to have meatshields.
95cb9b No.16276620
>>16276593
I could accept no checkpoints for stealth if they made it possible to recover from a tripped alarm. Maybe through a combined effort from the group, hacking the alarms to turn it off, calling the security company and posing as the owner, regaining control of the civies and ensuring no one makes a 911 call, cleaning up the area and posing as staff and talking to the guards to make them think the 911 call was a prank, etc
95cb9b No.16277257
>>16276620
Would also like to add that an actual hostage standoff which is iconic in heist movies is completely ignored. Could be amazing to start a heist stealth, and then messing up and the cops roll in, and taking a lot of hostages and shouting demands while the cops set up barricades and snipers take positions looking for a clean shot while you all rush to get all the loot you can before vanishing without a trace before the cops grow balls and send in a team.
7395bb No.16277644
>>16277257
>Demand a helicopter
>They actually deliver it to you, the absolute madmen
>Get to the roof to take it
>It's actually a trap
>You have to fight a fucking helicopter
>It doesn't even always have to be a trap
A shame Overkill doesn't really have funny ideas.
I would also argue having less enemies, but making them tougher, more damaging, and specially smarter would be a good thing. Never understood where did all those small armies come from, or why do they keep sending them after some guys who are more than capable of killing 1000 highly trained men in less than one hour. Not to mention a game about infiltration and heisting should feel tactical and not like a reskinned zombie game, but that's more about game design tastes rather than no brainers.
dec85a No.16277900
>tfw you never bout into the payday meme games
95cb9b No.16277930
>>16277900
That's too bad, they were pretty fun. I had 3 other friends playing it close to release. We had a blast.
dec85a No.16278191
>>16277930
Sure, you had a blast with the contentless game and buying all those DLCs.
dec85a No.16278192
I remember exactly how contentless it was.
dec85a No.16278202
It was so hyped the irl normalfags I talked to at the time owned a copy of the game and asked me whether I owned one too?
dec85a No.16278206
4747b9 No.16278486
>>16278216
DLC Unlocker
You will get instabanned as a cheater from games you join not as host. Infinite ammo mapkills are allowed but god forbid you didn't pay for DLC.
66a106 No.16288210
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Since this thread is practically dead I would like to take this chance to ask what the assault music in this video is.
2e9130 No.16288303
ddb9a8 No.16289110
>>16288210
I would agree with this video if bank heist simply wasn't the best place to grind on hell on earth, seriously
743350 No.16289291
>>16267527
>Just bought Payday 2
Good goy.
>>16268846
>It's not anti trump, there's not even a single trump reference in the whole game
Did you read the e-mails in the White House, they ain't fucking subtle about it.
659e0c No.16289355
>>16289110
> Bank Heist
> Best place to grind
I bet you haven't even hit Infamy I yet
db2e74 No.16289427
>>16288210
>>16289355
>deposit box stealth solo on old Death Wish
Easy as hell for a warmup.
659e0c No.16289470
>>16289427
> Deposit Box stealth solo
> Not just solo stealthing Shadow Raid for the superior payout with only minimal resistance
> Not just solo stealthing Murky Station to get more money in less time, with more rewarding mechanics than just waiting for a drill
> Not solo stealthing Jewelery Store or Diamond Store for a "warmup"
I can understand it if you got out almost immediately, but come on, Bank Heist shouldn't be played by anyone who knows what they're doing
d9aeda No.16290558
>>16289470
>>16289355
Robert Landolt is a crutch character. Also, he can't hook or slice worth shit.
35a88c No.16290595
>>16290558
Who do you play as in neo turf?
66a106 No.16290720
>>16289470
Is stealthing even fun though? I remember in The Heist it was the furthest thing from it, especially since it culminated in 10 or so minutes of waiting on a drill or something for the big diamond and faggots kept restarting when they fuck up. It's like how idiots save scum and then complain that stealth games are boring.
d9aeda No.16290848
>>16290595
George Spinner, Toyoshige Takeno, and Robert Landolt. My buddy really likes to play as Thomas Stewart because he's a giant dweeb.
87547d No.16291953
>>16254954
>how do any of you fags find this monster attractive?
Because anons are incredibly depressed but extremely empathetic individuals who hate what modern society has done to women.
Each and every one of us has seen or at least known of some sweet girl who died her hair, cut it all off, and pronounced themselves "genderqueer",
In our extremely sad state we wish we could still save these individuals. As such some anons began to sexualize the look for the delusional fantasy of purifying a tumblr-slut and making her a good wife.
97728b No.16292367
So does GTFO have a chance at being good?
This is my weak way of trying to get this thread going again
Also I need someone to give me a few wake up calls since I feel like I've missed out on the Payday 2 beta and early builds, and as such am considering GTFO should it be reasonably priced.
db2e74 No.16292391
>>16289470
I just wish guards didn't walk through walls or spot me out of pure bullshit.
Also Jew-ery store stealth is the most mind numbingly easy heist, more so than any of the branch bank ones.
95cb9b No.16292478
>>16292391
Jewelry store is for farming cards on normal. Just go in as a group of 3, have everyone mask up instantly walk in, grap 1 baggable, then run back to the can. Getting cards and queueing up the next one takes longer than actually doing it.
979e0b No.16298054
>>16291953
>As such some anons began to sexualize the look for the delusional fantasy of purifying a tumblr-slut and making her a good wife.
And in doing so prove themselves unworthy of one. Funny how people never realize they're part of the problem.
a7736f No.16298149
>>16290720
Stealth hasn't changed one bit, it's still 10 minutes of waiting around for the drill while the host restarts because a civvie saw him
96e66b No.16298436
>>16298149
Guess I'm hosting if I ever get around to installing the game.
Why the hell is it this large? I'd like to play it but everything this thread has mentioned says it's probably not worth downloading what amounts to 1/8th of my data cap, at least not until the end of the month
116499 No.16298454
>>16256265
Now is GTFO going to be better than Payday 2?
>>16298149
Meanwhile, the host is the best person to be when doing stealth as what's happening in the hosts game is the only thing that matters. So if a connecting player throws a bag into a pit, but in the hosts game the bag glitches out and drops to the ground, a common occurrence btw, then the roaming NPC will see that bag even though connecting player did everything right, they get fucked over because of constant desync shit like that.
96e66b No.16298458
>>16298454
Frankly even if GTFO is practically L4D but in space I don't really care. I just want to go back to the days of L4D where people wanted to have fun and didn't sperg out on everything.
>REE YOU TOOK MY SECOND PISTOL KICK
>REE YOU HEALED KICK
>REE YOU REVIVED ME 5 SECONDS LATER, KICK
>REE YOU SPAWNED AS A TANK KICK
>REE YOU SPAWNED AS A HUNTER KICK
>REE YOU JOINED MY GAME, KICK
Is Payday 2's playerbase like that? The Heist, even though it's pretty small, is really chill most of the time.
6f6dbd No.16298500
>>16298458
Yes.
Payday 2 suffers from retarded hosts that
>don't know how to set the game to private/friends-only, and repeatedly kick everyone that joins
>leave the moment they get taken into custody
>can't take any criticism, ignoring objectives entirely and ban you for suggesting they should help
>have no fucking clue how stealth works, leave dead bodies lying around and kick others for the bodies being detected
>use silent assassin mod, which makes stealth laughably easy by removing the need to pager killed unalerted guards, allowing you to clear the entire level
I don't know how frequent this is, as I don't really ever host. But after running into this a few times I just stopped bothering with joining pubs. The only pubs I join these days are high difficulty (DS/OD) lobbies.
Ever since bots got a rework, bots are just better than retarded players in general, simply on virtue of actually following you around and ressing you. I've played plenty of games in offline too as a result of it.
116499 No.16298508
>>16298458
Not really, but you might see a more sweaty attitude the higher difficulty you go, I tend to stick around mayhem/dw and people are pretty chill unless there's someone really bad who doesn't know how to play, yet for some reason is joining a high difficulty lobby, but that's kinda expected I would think.
The worst aspect of Payday 2 is joining people who are waiting for their friend to join but didn't set the lobby to private, so they just kick you as soon as you join & that happens in about 1 in 20 games? But at the end of the day you can always go fuck you I'm hosting and you'll generally get people joining you and then you get the be the dickhead with the kick button unless you pick santa's workshop or something like that.
People seem to hate those heists where near infinite bags spawn, also never expect a stealth heist to go well unless you can retardproof it.
96e66b No.16298525
>>16298508
I can't really speak on Payday 2's heists but to me I like Diamond Heist because stealth is more or less an advantage that you can keep until you get caught then all hell breaks loose and it's fucking intense. The last thing I want to do in Payday is not shoot cops.
116499 No.16298573
>>16298525
I think they remade Diamond Heist in Payday 2 to where you can fully stealth it?
If I'm thinking about the right one that is, you simply get some bonus loot however, kinda like the elephant heists where you're doing robberies for a senator and playing the mission fully stealth rewards you with extra loot at the end.
96e66b No.16298708
>>16298573
I had misunderstood you since I didn't actually know some PD2 stealth heists pretty much fail the mission if you fail stealth. I'm not particularly a fan of that, I'm under the impression stealth should be something you attempt and if you fail you should go loud like normal with the only penalty being going loud and maybe missing out on stealth objectives like No Mercy's.
116499 No.16298810
>>16298708
Oh yeah there's a few missions like that, but they are few and far between. I think the total number is like 3 or 4? 4 technically, as you can still beat a specific mission (Car Shop) on lower difficulties due to reduced timers and so on, but on higher difficulties you are guaranteed to fail, and lets be honest, if you're not shooting anything, why wouldn't you do the max difficulty? It's not as though stealth gets any harder.
a1cb38 No.16299139
>>16298573
There is no extra loot for completing the heist in stealth. The saphires in the main area are the only things that go when the alarm is triggered, but they are only worth a low 4 to 5 digit sum each, even on Death Sentence. If you mean the blood diamond inside the vault, it has a fixed 10/20% percent spawn chance depending on difficulty.
116499 No.16299160
>>16299139
Oh I got it to spawn on my first and only attempt so I thought it was a stealth only thing.
96e66b No.16299387
Is Payday 2 also P2P? Replaying The Heist I just remembered I'm from Egypt and I have a the worst connection for P2P so it's either mostly getting dropped halfway into heists and making them wait a minute until I connect, or it's fairly laggy and I end up breezing through heists or getting decimated through lagspikes.
bd8c25 No.16300743
2855a1 No.16307055
Fuck it. If I got it for free and I can just host with DLC unlocker I don't see the big harm in it.
I fucking hate datacaps.
72e9d1 No.16307169
>>16254450
Same shit happened with Coffee Stain studios. One phenomenal game (Sanctum 2) and then they saw dollar signs and we got Goat Simulator. Now we're getting "Satisfactory" which is a fuckin joke too. If we ever get a Sanctum 3 it will be 10000% guaranteed it'll be SJW garbage
58eabb No.16307557
>picked the game up about a few months or so ago while it was on sale ps4, inb4, I'm a poorfag and my pc is dogshit
>didn't know much about it but knew it had a good pedigree from PD1, and remember the old 4vg generals won the 4cc that one time
>always liked heists so I just went in
>all the guides were outdated, and the new ones boiled down to 'just buy the DLC goy, Anarchist is best' despite owining the 'complete edition'
>all the weapon guides were outdated, just naturally hovered to an IZMA/Minisaw/C4 combo because I'm the only retard that seems to fucking play the objective and autoshotties are always funsticks; plus the Enforcer trees are fucking OP
>run Stoic for a bit for the flask, then move into Gambler because ammo pickups aren't suicide to run for them, plus it helps my chimp team too
>no direction or indication on what order/general path to tackle the missions. First heist was the obvious Jewlery Store/Gold Bank, did Under the Mountain next
>>thatescalatedquickly.jpg
>too low level to do any higher difficulty missions like Mayhem/DW and people just kick me like I'm some fucking retard despite they themselves crowding the drill with 3 people while it glitches and still doing it before the other guy finishes upgrading it
>grind is too long to reach the higher levels/Infamy
>slowly uncover tidbits in threads like this, the meta of the game is more interesting than the game itself yet another fucking game it seems leddit has killed in their normalfaggotry and hugboxing
>see all these memes I'll never even be able to lurk for to understand
>turns out I bought the game almost quite literally as the devs dropped it
>no real friends to play it with where the fuck do you think we are; then on top of that, platform
<now just play it while zoning out to JT videos etc
<everything is just ded even this thread
Feels like I missed an era lads.
d10bdc No.16307572
>>16307557
>Feels like I missed an era lads.
Yeah, feels great, doesn't it? It's like finding a lost civilization that should, by all means, still be thriving, but it looks like everyone just got up and left.
2855a1 No.16307597
>>16307572
But what else is there to play? For all the supposed good I hear about Vermintide 2 there's still the matter of the fact that some people have had fuckery happen to them due to the anti cheat, and some have been banned, and outside of that I genuinely have no idea of the game outside of that it's a melee focused game. L4D is not really an option anymore, just as The Heist isn't because I've played them to death, the former also shines in the now dead or cancerous, in L4D2's case Versus mode and the latter is just not that exciting anymore when all you have left is one person to play with.
Orcs Must Die 2 is way too easy and waves are spread stupidly thin, with the hard mode being locked to the second playthrough which is dumb because I don't even want to get 20% into the first. Sanctum is too bulletspongy and wasn't to my taste. What's left? Risk of Rain? Done to death. 2? Gearbox AND early access, fuck that shit for now. Forced? Pretty meh. The new Gauntlet? Nah. The Old Guantlets? Done. Alien Swarm? Dead. Spiral Knights? Dead. Even something as mediocre as Starforge? Dead.
58eabb No.16307633
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>>16307572
It's certainly unique. It's much like an ARG in it's own right, tailored to me, where I uncover the story in my own time with sources which are openly available (aas oppose to real history in which facts and interpretations can be blurred and there is already a general accepted timeline of wider history to work with). All the patchnotes are out there, and people who lived through it but everything is still blurry.
I wouldn't call it great though. Whereas wandering abondoned estates and dicking around is fun and free because you can Tokyo Drift cars, smash winddows and draw on walls with no regard for what the place is now; this feels more like being in an estate that is a few years from being abandoned and nobody dares to quite yet drop formalities just yet. This used to be something big, and it still technically is, however I'm wandering the thin transitory times between the end of it's life and full abandonment.
In short it's not curious, but melancholy. Quiet and melancholy.
But stranger yet, is that following the trend that has been set, the place is (nearly) guaranteed to be revitalised at an unspecified point with the inevitable cashgrab release of Payday 3 - yet nobody is around to care right now. Which is odd, since I've lived through the long process twice before with Bloodborne and Planetside 2, however this is the first time that I'm entering the game while it's ded as oppose to watching the game die in front of my eyes and all my friends leaving me to keep the seat warm, like that start of Overlord. It's like taking vid related and skipping directly to 3:18, but being aware that everyone else as watched the entire thing, It's like entering a campsite and watching the final flickering embers of a bonfire that everybody else has left.
A very abstract feel indeed.
17d5a7 No.16308537
Why did people like these series? When I played Payday 2 it came across as an extremely repetitive grindfest. With very unsatisfying combat, retarded AI and bullet sponge enemies Like Destiny except robbing stores/banks.
bd8c25 No.16308651
>>16308537
do you really need a reason as to why reddit likes it?
17d5a7 No.16308667
>>16308651
I'm just bewildered that such a mediocre repetitive game that is just a skinner box to keep playing the same mediocre game got so absurdly popular the devs kept supporting it for half a decade
Left 4 Dead 2 at least had its versus mode, mods and the AI director adding some variety to levels
6e4c27 No.16310639
>>16308667
I can only speak for The Heist, but
>Excellent music that fits the gameplay like a glove
>Frantic action gameplay that's absurdly simple but has a fair amount of nuances that make it wonderful to play, stuff like using a dead shields shield as cover, dominating a police officer in absence of civilians so you can do a trade on the spot, the ecstasy of seeing a dozen police officer hats and helmets fly up into the air after a series of headshots, the intense moments of trying to get a bead on a sniper who is actively fucking up your health, breaking through an assault just enough so you can reach an area safe enough to revive a downed teammate without getting downed yourself
>Heists are really well made, from side objectives as simple as "destroy cameras so that the assault wives don't bite you in the ass as hard" or "pick up stacks of money lying around" to something substantially cool like sapphire display cases or the big diamond, overdrill, stealth in No Mercy playing completely differently with different objectives including access to the shutter doors of the ICU. The amount of variety that you can find in a heist, from something as simple as how many special units spawn and how many times the drill fails, to substantial changes like different routes through the level(most notably access to the roof in Panic Room, how hard you get fucked with Diamond Heist or Heat Street)
>Dallas and Hoxton having really nice voices
>Really neat gunplay with the exception of the revolver and both shotguns, which don't feel that good to use, especially with how terrible the shotguns handle in the game with one pellet dealing all the damage of the weapon
>No bullet sponge enemies, with the exception of the one designed to be a bulletsponge, the Bulldozer(basically L4D's tank but less dangerous with the stipulation that they might spawn in packs)
>Compared to L4D's slower, more cautious pace, every heist is practically one long Crescendo fight under stress of objectives and the fact that anyone can come at you any which way.
Unless Payday 2 dropped the ball I'm downloading it expecting more of the same, more cool multilayered heists, more intense gunfights, sick beats and not much else, and I'll be damned if I spend a dollar on DLC if I can get it for free and play with the one person I know for a fact plays co-op shit to enjoy their time, with the game and with me.
bd8c25 No.16310884
>>16310639
payday 2 is nothing like the heist, you just wasted 25GB by downloading shit, every heist is the same shit, go here drill this, carry bags, repeat, the gunplay is shit and there is no arm or leg hitboxes, the music downgraded hard turning into generic wubs and dubs. every thing good about the heist is removed and all the bad shit is amplified, just watch gameplay of any PDTH level being played in PD2 to see what i mean, you know overdrill? now you actually have to carry each stack of gold to the exit, takes far too long to complete
6e4c27 No.16310964
>>16310884
I haven't wasted the 25GBs yet. Thank you for making me reconsider.
f917bc No.16311002
>>16254450
It didn't pay off.
bd8c25 No.16311008
>>16310964
i think it actually takes up 50 GB, lots of shit with PD2 and updates that say their 300mb taking up 1GB. something to do with the way they distribute files so people with shit internet can download it then it unpacks itself
6e4c27 No.16311018
>>16311008
I just have one question. Is it worth it, at the very least, for the Classic heists? I hear the old PDTH ones are still in the game, and I wonder if at the very least those would be worth falling back to if the rest of the heists(I've watched two, Shadow Raid and the regular Bank Heist, and latter seems like a bite sized meh version of First World Bank while the former is a stealth heist which I can't really comment on) are unimpressive? Am I incorrect in assuming all the big involved heists are DLC?
bd8c25 No.16311080
>>16311018
no, the classic heists play far differently, with you having to do extra steps or carry loads of shit around because of PD2s different style of gameplay
>Am I incorrect in assuming all the big involved heists are DLC?
no, every big heist is DLC or crossover content, all the vanilla heists take place on small maps with you just drilling something for 5 minutes then moving bags, or sneaking into some place and reseting alot because of the broken stealth then moving some bags, or you have to do some mini game tier shit like place the right ingredient to cook meth but he purposefully gives you the wrong answers even with a guide he can actually say X, everything points towards X but once you add X the whole thing blows up and he says you should have put Y, its probably some bug they never bothered fixing oh and then you have to move all the bags.
but once you get into the big heists its just more of the same, you have to drill more doors/vaults that take up 20-30 minutes because you need to do some side objective and no one can repair the drill with all the cops shooting and phasing through walls, you have to move EVEN MOAR BAGS that are heavier so you go even slower, and the reward isnt even worth it. play the biggest and baddest heist and you'll get less XP and money for your time than if you just Stealthed a few easy heists. money doesnt do shit and you need to play a fuckton of heists just for a slim chance at getting the attachment you want for your gun, even if you dont have the DLC it still gives you DLC attachments and since theres loads of DLC guns your fucked if you want to pick the game up now and have any sort of fun or progression, and the progression isnt anything special either, you just get to lvl 100 and get infamy, all it does is give you a 5% bonus on XP so you can level up faster, gives you a shit mask and maybe a cash bonus %. however there are 25 fucking tiers and they all give you just 5% more xp stacking on eachother, ECM russing during double XP events with 25%+ XP bonus still felt like a chore to do, i got to 14 infamy before realising how much time i wasted playing this shit game that just gets worse each day
bd8c25 No.16311110
>>16311102
But all of those games where estremely popular, i'd be suprised if people here didnt play them
>lumping in gayne and lynch with actuall good games
fuck off IO shill, that series killed the freedom fighters sequel
6e4c27 No.16311114
>>16311080
Well, that sucks. Thank you again for making me reconsider.
bd8c25 No.16311125
>>16311121
You got the wrong thread bot, UT2K4 gamenight is thatway ->
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bd8c25 No.16311153
>>16311130
Ah, my mistake, JIDF like you should go back to tel aviv where you belong!
bd8c25 No.16311229
>>16311198
>Is there another flag to capture?
Yea, the red teams flag, we're down 2-1 and its best out of 3!