90897a No.16242576
Story is eh. Combat is shit. Missions are repetitive. Can't even play as other characters. Yet another shitty One Piece game.
Why is it that most nip games that are good tend to be games with western influence, yet they can't make great AAA anime games for shit?
cbacd4 No.16242600
>>16242576
Because they're cash grabs made to get otaku money off of franchise popularity alone. If a dev wants to make an actually good game, they'd do something original so they wouldn't have to be constrained by some shonenshit's world rules and characters.
dfe636 No.16242602
>>16242576
That's AAA to you? It's shovelware meant to cash in on manchildren.
027fb8 No.16242604
>>16242576
God damn it, I was hoping for something like Prototype.
90897a No.16242608
>>16242602
Nips obviously marketed it like it was meant to be an AAA game.
6965ad No.16242657
>>16242576
>Why is it that most nip games that are good tend to be games with western influence
What kind of bullshit am I reading here
Also the good One Piece games were the Musou ones and Unlimited Adventure/Cruise.
df56d5 No.16242739
>>16242576
>Western influence
[Insert Bionic Commando, DmC dmc, Lost Planet 3 here]
Also
>One Piss game
>AAA
Pick one faggot
90897a No.16242852
>>16242657
>Musou games
>Good
Hahahaha
>[Insert Bionic Commando, DmC dmc, Lost Planet 3 here]
I said most dumb nigger, not all. Certainly more than anime games.
Also read >>16242608
6965ad No.16242897
>>16242852
>Hahahaha
Musou games can be good, and the OPW were fun enough with a large amount of playable characters. I'll argue OPW2 was the hardest of the bunch.
>I said most dumb nigger, not all. Certainly more than anime games.
Comparing anime-licensed anime to some kind of vague criteria (what is "western influenced" ? in setting or art direction, etc?) sure shows a poor grasp of the topic
6965ad No.16242902
>>16242897
*anime-licensed games
oops I should have proofread first
6f5d9e No.16242919
>>16242576
>AAA games
>great
You sound like a retard.
0e7c00 No.16243035
d9e93b No.16243040
It's was published by Bamco what did you honestly fucking expect?
b6f7b8 No.16243042
How the fuck is one piss even going at this point? Are shonenfags really that big of a market?
bf3962 No.16243071
Why the fuck do so many people care about this setting anyway? I know it has been around since the Big Bang or something like that, but it was not cheesy enough to retain the unintentional comical appeal of Dragon Ball, and I fully expected people would just sort of "grow out of it" a la Naruto.
bbbdb2 No.16243086
>>16243042
>Are shonenfags really that big of a market?
Do you own the rock you live under or do you merely rent it?
b6f7b8 No.16243092
>>16243086
I am actually clueless. Who is the market for this? Spics and niggers like DBZ?
bbbdb2 No.16243101
>>16243092
>Who is the market for this?
If you mean the manga, the shonen manga's market is shonen. If you mean the video game, the game's market is fans of the shonen manga, which are primarily shonen. Though One Piece has been going so long that kids who became fans of it are now adults, and probably still reading it because they're desperate to know when and how it will finally end.
90897a No.16243109
>>16243071
Apparently it's at like 70% of the story and hopefully once it gets to the ending the ending is so shitty like Bleach everyone forgets about it.
0e7c00 No.16243110
>>16243101
>probably still reading it because they're desperate to know when and how it will finally end.
♥♥GARCHU♥♥
bbbdb2 No.16243119
>>16243109
He's apparently had the ending planned out for years. I read a story that a terminally-ill kid's make-a-wish was to learn how One Piece ended, so Oda whispered it in his ear, and the kid took it to the grave. Bleach was just making shit up as it went along like Dragon Ball does but I believe One Piece has had a plan–not a great plan, not a rigid plan, not a very well-organized plan, but a plan nonetheless.
Regardless, after taking this long, there's going to be thousands of people yelling "That's it?"
9d40e4 No.16243234
No shit. It's Bamco and a licensed game.
863f15 No.16243256
Was this really worth making a thread about? Even the very first trailer already looked like absolute garbage. And then I watched the first gameplay trailer and it looked even worse, what were you expecting?
573bb8 No.16243271
>>16243122
This, Pirate Warriors 4 and Dynasty Warriors Gundam 5 never ever.
90897a No.16243274
>>16243256
Maybe I helped some retard anon not buy the game a day before release. I should be thanked.
863f15 No.16243282
>>16243274
If so then you had noble intentions. You're forgiven, Anon.
027fb8 No.16243284
>>16242739
Bionic commando was actually good though.
a7ee59 No.16243288
There are no anime AAA games. They're AA at biggest.
994c19 No.16243294
Reminder Wano is a shit arc no matter how much fan service Oda gives Cunt Pissers.
deb9fc No.16243302
>>16243234
The fault lies with the developer. One look at their game history explains why the game is a flop.
cbacd4 No.16243932
>>16242852
>DmC dmc
Pretty sure a western studio handled that.
aad503 No.16243940
>>16242576
Why would you expect a good game based of a shitty franchise?
f91f10 No.16243950
>>16243940
Because good games come from shitty franchises. It's the good franchises that produce the shitty games. Explains how Bleach has more good games than story arcs.
cbacd4 No.16243953
>>16243942
>IGN writer breathes air
Air must be bad.
cbacd4 No.16244001
>>16243971
>>16243979
>>16243982
>>16243985
/v/ have IDs newnigger.
225945 No.16244010
>>16242576
>Can not play as Boa.
Into the trash it goes
bcacd0 No.16244011
>>16243971
>>16243979
>>16243982
>>16243985
So can we admit unapologetic Cuckchan homosexuals are invading /v/?
aad503 No.16244053
>>16244011
They have been invading /v/ for years, and it's been getting worse and worse every day.
40e75e No.16244062
>>16244011
>so can we admit
And Why That's a Good Thing
e094c1 No.16244074
>>16244053
>>16244011
Do you know the best way to scare off literal faggots?
Or should I just report it for derailing the thread?
aad503 No.16244078
>>16244074
It doesn't matter, Mark is welcoming them with open arms. Even if he does ban them it's only for like 1 day instead of a fucking lifetime ban like they deserve.
78939e No.16244241
>>16242576
>making games about shonen manga that aren't 200% centered on the series waifus
When will they learn?
7a270a No.16244325
>>16244074
Pictures of loving heterosexual families.
0ec156 No.16244593
>>16243284
>Bionic commando was actually good though.
Yeah, if you skipped all the cutscenes and used the classic skin.
849205 No.16248123
Licensed games are usually shit, Japan or the West. They are made to get more money from the hardcore fans.
fa4765 No.16248130
>Why is it that most nip games that are good tend to be games with western influence
Thanks OP, had a good laugh
cd5737 No.16248138
>>16243119
I used to believe this. But after the inclusion of haki as power level, I stopped believing it. He ran out of ideas of how to make luffy fight creatively so he basically gave him super saiyan and everyone else ki blasts.
849205 No.16248146
>>16243119
Ofcourse the ending is planned. Most series do that otherwise you get into George Martin aSoIaF territory and nobody wants that.
849205 No.16248155
>>16244078
How does banning even work anon? Its 2019 mate IP bans are fucking meaningless. I literally don't even KNOW if I have ever been banned.
f262aa No.16248173
Because anime games are always fucking garbage that rely on fanservice over good gameplay.
Are you seriously questioning why this is bad? One Piece fans are just as bad as Naruto or DBZ retards.
f262aa No.16248184
Anime should never have video game offspring. Anime does not lend itself to good vidya.
fa4765 No.16248190
>>16248184
it does, bad anime doesn't
6f5d9e No.16248346
This thread made wanna try it out.
The game seems to play pretty good, I don't get what you dislike about it.
94c552 No.16248392
>>16248146
THQ immigrants please leave.
60332a No.16250306
>>16242604
On a game where you can explore and do crazy shit, the one thing you need to get just right is freedom of fucking movement and you can't even chain jumping around buildings and whatnot.
I just want to have fun.
2bb517 No.16250338
>>16248138
How powers are used in fights =/= how the plots resolved.
Whether or not Luffy wins a fight using his powers creatively or with haki doesn't change the end goal of why Luffy was fighting and if Luffy wins (though of course he'll fucking win it's Shounenshit surprise dumbass). When people say Oda has the ending planned it isn't about how Luffy wins it's about
>what the fuck One Piece is
>what the fuck is going on with the Celestial Dragons
>what the fuck the Will of the D is
>why the fuck were the Poneglyphs made
>what happened during this almost world ending war that happened previous to this era
>where the fuck are the almost world destroying weapons located
You're confusing the means for the end. Granted, your complaint about power creep is real and valid, but Haki is the only incidence of pure powercreep in the series so far for Luffy himself. Zoan type-users are looking to get further buffs this arc and Logia-users have been left in the dust by Haki so there's that I guess. The power creep is the worst part of One Piece's writing by far.
908264 No.16250354
>>16242576
One Piece is one of the most successful animu & mango series in Japan's history of entertainment. There is legitimate fear that when One Piece ends or Oda dies of overwork, that Shounen Jump will collapse and the entire Japanese entertainment industry will suffer because of it.
WHY THE FUCK CAN'T THEY MAKE A HALF DECENT GAME?!
2bb517 No.16250387
>>16250354
They can't make a half decent game because of the reasons you've listed. It's such a popular franchise they don't need to. They could completely shit the bed making it and nobody would care because the manga still exists. It's the exact same reason Type-Moon and Nasu can't make a good game to save their lives. They got super popular off of the writing but have shit for game development skills, but it's fine because people will buy it anyway.
1373e1 No.16256144
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>>16242576
Ganbarion is eternally in the land of licensed games. The only freedom they had to make a game they want to make is Pandora's Tower.
>>16243302
>Having a yearly delivery of games and expecting quality from a small studio
Way to point the fucking obvious
43a7e1 No.16256150
00a093 No.16256162
I'm out of the loop on these games.
Is it another one of those shitty Dinasty Warrior clones?
I haven't like a One Piece game since that one fighting game on PS2.
e51ebb No.16256166
>>16243110
s-stupid sexy rabbit… I don’t want to fug her at all!
a8c4fb No.16256213
>>16250354
>One Piece is one of the most successful animu & mango series in Japan's history of entertainment
Correction, it's the most successful manga in Japan's history by far. Nothing comes close to it. People who uses the made up big 3 term don't realise that it's just one hug ass one and then there are other manga of smaller success.
00a093 No.16256234
>>16256213
It's a bummer that both the manga and anime took a complete fucking swan dive down the shitter after the 2 year skip. The anime especially quality wise.
a8c4fb No.16256236
>>16256234
>Watching the anime
The anime has been shit for YEARS, anon, this sin't new.
2bb517 No.16256242
>>16256234
Anime has always been shit, not sure what you're surprised about it being shittier after timeskip. Manga is still good though, definitely feeling the stretch to end game now that the final boss has been introduced.
00a093 No.16256246
>>16256236
>for YEARS
It was fine until around after Thriller Bark, I would say anyway. The stuff during the archipelago and the Impel Down invasion up to the execution were pretty enjoyable as well, especially White Beard.
I really miss when the fights had actual consequences like with Luffy vs Lucci. Luffy has to pretty much go so far that he couldn't move a single muscle after he went all out and beyond. Now he just gets up after every smack he gets like with Doflamingo and Katakuri, it's super gay.
>>16256242
>Anime has always been shit, not sure what you're surprised about it being shittier after timeskip
They thought they improved it but all they did was give it that disgusting generic flavor of the month look most every anime has now.
>Manga is still good though
I'm going to have to disagree with that. Wano arc is so fucking shit and the arcs before that were also quite a chore to read for an absolutely unsatisfying climax with Katakuri/Big Mom.
2bb517 No.16256294
>>16256246
>I'm going to have to disagree with that. Wano arc is so fucking shit and the arcs before that were also quite a chore to read for an absolutely unsatisfying climax with Katakuri/Big Mom.
Wano Arc is picking up right now but I agree the beginning was a drag. Mostly because this is the dreaded Japan-wank arc it's going to fucking shit itself at some point. What I'm really hoping for out of this arc is for one of the Strawhats to actually die to reintroduce tension in the series since there hasn't been a major casualty since Ace. It's unlikely but the arc building up Kaido like this feel like a real possibility to me. I will also agree that the Big Mom confrontation was underwhelming as well just reinforcing power difference, on the other hand, I like finally seeing the Strawhats just outright fail at taking down a big bad for once, hasn't happened since, again, Marineford. The failure would have carried more weight if somebody actually died in the process and I see this as the biggest failure of the Whole Cake Island Arc, being such an outright failure (except for Sanji retrieval) but no real consequences yet, that's why I hope Kaido/Big Mom/Strawhats leads to some major casualties, followed by a swoop in from Blackbeard to fuck up everything even worse. Have to hard disagree on the Katakuri confrontation though, his one on one with Luffy was very satisfying especially with him injuring himself. I really like his character and while the powercreep was real during the fight I can't knock it for how much I like Katakuri as a character.
a8c4fb No.16256315
>>16256294
>>16256246
I don't think Wano is that terrible, it felt to me like the beginning of the previous arcs. There's even time traveling
00a093 No.16256319
>>16256294
>What I'm really hoping for out of this arc is for one of the Strawhats to actually die
Highly doubt that, sadly. Though I have to say that Luffy got really cocky and somewhat careless after the 2 year skip.
I really thought that he'd be a little more protective even if he acknowledges that they've all grown, too.
If you remember when Zero was willing to lay down his life for his captain just like Sanji who was physically shaking but ready to do it, god that was well done.
But Luffy just keeps jumping into trouble and picking fights he doesn't even understand the gravity of.
Having faced Big Mom and gotten his arse kicked so much that even having teamed up with another Crew didn't work he's still super cocky. I was hoping Rayleigh would've beat some sense into him.
>I like Katakuri
I do as well. The guy is a good fighter and gave Luffy a run for his Berry, but the fight was still lacking to me.
Luffy just gets up after every heavy smack he received brushing it off. Remember when Lucci hit him a third time with that Impact Dial like attack? He almost passed the fuck out.
00a093 No.16256331
>>16256315
For my taste it has introduced too many both forgettable and uninteresting characters who I wouldn't lose any sleep over if they just died on the spot.
I barely gave a shit when Pedro died, but looking back he did have some time to grow on you, even if not that much.
He believe in the Straw Hats and gave up everything for their sake and Luffy still didn't manage to win, only to escape.
I would honest to god love to see Luffy get absolutely mad and sneak out at night and demolish some nearby forest in pure anger.
I need emotions from this little shit other than "WAHOOOO, LET'S FIGHT".
Just like during and after the execution of Ace.
2bb517 No.16256374
>>16256319
>Luffy just gets up after every heavy smack he received brushing it off.
Again I don't like the powercreep during the fight and it lacked the gravity of earlier ones. I just can't dislike it because I like Katakuri too much that it didn't bother me as much as it should of. It wasn't an asshole confrontation like Lucci so it had a more mentor vibe to it which while asspully, barely did it for me.
>>16256331
>I need emotions from this little shit other than "WAHOOOO, LET'S FIGHT".
This is why I am hoping for an immediate members death just to give Luffy a proper wake up call for more somber moments, but the situation isn't as dire as you say. Luffy starving himself for food because Sanji left him was incredibly touching and unique to the character. He's certainly a touch too upbeat but he's not altogether pure positivity.
>For my taste it has introduced too many both forgettable and uninteresting characters who I wouldn't lose any sleep over if they just died on the spot.
I like the old man in prison but yeah, pretty lackluster for characters so far. That's why now that conflicts are escalating I hope we get some deeper insight.
00a093 No.16256805
>>16256374
>Luffy starving himself for food because Sanji left him was incredibly touching
I don't know, it feel a little cheap after he ate a shit ton of cookie dough fighting that one guy in the forest.
And knowing that Luffy is pretty much starving for food 24/7 didn't leave as much of an impact on me. Now the "fight" with Sanji and Luffy was pretty good, though. Forced to cut ties with them and him actually being serious when talking to Nami was a good touch.
I just feel that Oda has about 4-5 characters from the Crew he actually gives a shit about while others like Chopper have been degraded to permanent healslut when the time calls for it.
83d520 No.16256826
>>16242576
The only game based on an anime/manga I can think of that was alright was Attack on Titan 2.
cd5737 No.16257836
>>16256805
>I don't know, it feel a little cheap after he ate a shit ton of cookie dough fighting that one guy in the forest.
He made the promise of starvation AFTER he defeated the cookie guy.
00a093 No.16257900
>>16257836
That's what I mean, he ought to have been filled to the brim with dough.
Unless his metabolism is so damn retarded fast which again makes it less of an impact on me.
Him not moving from the spot until Sanji returns was fine and dandy, but the starving was shoehorned in because it was Sanji specifically. He wouldn't have had the chance to eat anything because he was not going to move away from that spot to begin with.
cd5737 No.16258191
>>16257900
He decided not to eat even after he was moved, though, and he was moved against his will. Even after starving he managed to give a pretty good fight, I loved that part tbh.
691bdc No.16258875
>>16248146
>Ofcourse the ending is planned
Nah, while Oda and his editors have stated that the ending has been planned. There are conflicting statements made throughout the years like how originally One Piece was supposed to run for 7 years, or that Oda (at least in the past) had an infrequent habit of adding plot elements and not realizing the full scope of them and needing to integrate them into the story. As was the case with choosing the 'shichibukai' title because it sounded cool and then realizing he's made 7 characters he needed to flesh out. Plus Oda has stated that he wrote arcs like Water 7 with barely any lead up.
One Piece is pretty obviously a series that wasn't completely planned out and it being stretched out because it's a money printer. We sat at 60% completion for what? 5 years? I think whatever ending Oda did originally conceive has been altered enough that it's no longer recognizable from it's first incarnation. And now One Piece exists to continue to line WSJ's pocket and keep it's parent company alive.
4449e2 No.16259414
31c156 No.16259434
>>16242576
Just feels like an even shittier Breath of the Wild. And the world is unimaginative as fuck. Seriously, out of all the shitty magical islands they've visited, they go with a Hyrule wannabe with out of place architecture and dull as fuck terrain in a world that's supposed to be filled with oddly shaped mountains and trees.
>>16243101
This.
>>16243294
Its honestly disgusting just how awful this arc is turning out. Totto Land was pretty shitty too but at least it was redeable and had some neat aesthetics. This shit is just boring as all fucks with even emptier hype and even more pointless characters than usual, which is saying something when considering OP's track record of repetition.
31c156 No.16259436
>>16244241
This. At least then it'd be a decent fap.
6965ad No.16259451
>Fan: Nami in the New World part of the story is so completely my type. I just love her. I have so much fun buying the Blu-rays she appears in, plus figures and other merch of her, and hope for more featuring her in the future. As an author, though, I wonder if maybe you’re not very happy about this?
>Oda: So are you saying you feel guilty for looking at one of my characters in an erotic way (Laughs)?
>This goes for all of my characters, but I don’t have any problems at all with people doing that. My mentor taught me that ‘The World of Manga’ is a product, and if you start getting all preachy after people were kind enough to buy your stuff, it shows that you’re not a professional.
>I feel the same way. Enjoy my work however you like, with whatever interpretations or fantasies you want. As long as you’re reading my manga, I’m happy.
There was also a time where the japanese Internet went mad at the author for making a WWII joke in his editorial's note (involving a jap soldier abandoned in an island, believing the conflict was still going on until mid-70s). Only Jump publisher gave a public apology letter, while Oda didnt give a shit.
68d415 No.16259487
>>16259434
>Shits boring as fuck with even emptier hype
That's a good start but Wano's biggest problems are as follows:
-Kaido is the worst villain in the entire series.
-Oda listened to the Dressrosa niggers and cut half the story from the first part for faster pacing in an arc that was hyped and planned from the start which had the right to be a longer arc.
-The arc itself relies too much on chaos to make an in depth story.
-The Beast Pirates all feel like trash, King and Queen are the only two who have any value.
-Big Mom being written out of the story until Oda needs her in the most complex way possible.
-Events being off screened for pacing completely kill any sense of tension. Everything in this arc feels like one big shitty obstacle the Straw Hats will overcome anyway.
In any case Wano will supposedly be about surpassing Marineford or some shit so I guess if Oda does like a twist or something it could still turn out meh.
47a834 No.16259508
>>16243119
>>16248138
>>16248146
>>16258875
Most likely what you will see is that certain elements of the ending are planned, but the ending as a complete whole is not. Ah My Goddess! is the perfect example. I'm sure the specific details about the ending (who, what, where, when, why, how) were not made ahead of time, but one specific point - K1 had his sex drive magically suppressed so that he wouldn't bang Belldandy - was the central idea that would need to be revealed at the end. Once that was revealed, you could look back at the entire series and notice blatant references to this ending revelation scattered everywhere.
c721ba No.16259589
>>16259487
is one piece good at any point?
I skimmed through it and found some nice stuff but I want to know the best of the best, so i can watch the good parts of the anime
ab9943 No.16259597
>>16248138
Haki shit in the enies lobby arc killed my interest in one piece, that and the merman shit post-timeskip, along with the timeskip.
0517ce No.16259620
>>16242576
This is like asking why games based on movies are shit. Are you retarded?
178aa7 No.16259684
>>16259589
I remember the arc where they're in the jungle fighting the guy with the bubbles being really comfy.
691bdc No.16259687
>>16259508
> you could look back at the entire series and notice blatant references to this ending revelation scattered everywhere.
Can't say I finished Ah My Goddess!, but the problem I would have with claiming the ending was planned is assuming that the usual conventions of a long running rom-com series (nobody fucks, MC backpedals when things would progress the series) were just made a plot point and you could do that with a lot of other series in the genre.
I'd have to see an example of how the magical aspect of this was blatant rather than retroactively applied to typical writing.
3232bf No.16259722
The longest anime I ever watched was LotGH and it had zero filler.
Watching something for years and years with no end in sight just feels boring. I prefer binge watching something with a beginning and an end. But I suppose people like the social experience.
51b9e7 No.16259728
Unlimited Adventure and Unlimited Cruise were the best One Piece games. Exploration was actually fun, areas look nice and interesting. Crafting, upgrading and powering up characters was surprisingly complex. They had the formula for a fun game that just added new stuff in it but they fucked it up with Unlimited World Red which felt like such a downgrade and let down.
c721ba No.16259814
>>16259487
I got a one piece itch and want to scratch it
are the movies good?
51b9e7 No.16259834
>>16259814
Early movies are pretty garbage. Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island is the best one mainly cause how different it feels and animation is pretty good. Newer movies are pretty much meh nothing really good nothing really bad.
c5621b No.16259855
>>16259728
I tend to throw the three in the same bag because of how terrible Unlimited World Red was. I do remember having fun with the previous ones.
Also, a game almost no one mentions is the Gigant Battle games in the DS which are basically fleshed Jump Super Stars but only with one pieces characters. And it looked pretty fucking nice.
>>16259834
I cried eith the Z movie Fuck you.
178aa7 No.16260080
>>16259861
I read this as "Nami and Horsecock are the only good things to ever come out of One Piece".
d17d34 No.16260087
>>16243294
>>16259434
>>16259487
Doesn't help that non mega-weebs / westerners won't really understand all the references. Even my normal-level weeb friends don't understand half the shit in there. Would have rather focused on Luffy being in the prison camp while the other Straw Hats do whatever, but wait, why does that sound familiar….
But yeah, the lack of tension reminds me of Fishman Island. The metric fuckton of Island-specific characters and side-stories reminds me of Dressrosa. I'm just going to look forward to Elbaf.
d17d34 No.16260135
>>16259834
I was never a fan of the movies. All seemed to have some sort of glaring issue. If you do want to watch any, would recommend:
One Piece Film: Strong World
> Doesn't make sense in the timeline, but strong story. Enjoyable watch and Nami's swimsuit. Oh, its also a damsel in distress story. So if you have _one of those friends_, praise it to your heart's content.
One Piece Film: Z
> Consensus among fans is most wish that the villain was canon. Strong villain and great character development for the Marines. The doomsday weapon is a bit farfetched though and would likely change the entire story and dynamics of OP if were true. There is a scene leading into the final Luffy fight where Chopper is in center frame. He's looking directly at the camera and does some sort of transformation or attack that feels like little girl bait. It makes no sense whatsoever why they'd break the rising tension with that. Some Toei marketer probably thought that little girls get bored watching fighting characters in a Shonen film fight and demanded that be inserted.
One Piece Film: Gold
> More of eyecandy if you like Las Vegas theme. Complete plot asspull in the rising-action and climax. Friends and I rolled our eyes. Even the female friend said, "this is so stupid" when we watched together.
f3674a No.16260200
>>16259861
That’s not how you spell carrots.
61055d No.16260216
>>16259589
The anime is dogshit, read the manga. But for best arcs I'd say, in no particular order. Sky Island, Marineford, Alabasta, the Prison Break and Water 7. Problem though, references will be made to things that happened hundreds of chapters ago you won't understand unless you read them at the time.
>>16258875
You confuse the journey for the destination. Yes a lot of waypoints have been added along the way but that's because Oda has made the perfect Shounenbait. He can add as many islands as he wants between Luffy and One Piece and it's fine because no one knows where One Piece is. This keans, in the event he dies, while rushed and probably shit, they can also take away as many islands as they want and expedite the plot. Sure, some minor details might need to be adjusted but the main idea of the ending should be executable no matter what. This isn't to say Oda doesn't dig himself into holes with sideplots but he's the best as at tying things together in the end as far as Shounenshit goes.
70013d No.16260312
>>16259589
One piece is ultimately a shonen. There is nothing else to say. The only thing that sets it apart is length and popularity.
As someone who is anti social the "one trillion people are watching it they can't be wrong" argument is unconvincing. And as to its length consider all the good stories you could enjoy instead.
483a37 No.16260351
>>16260216
>Best Arcs
Shaobody and Arabasta or nothing.
Water 7 & Enies Lobby were pretty good, too.
>>16260312
It's certainly popular, but it's not the longest series in Shonen Jump.
There's something to be said for holding a cohesive plot together over the course of decades, though.
Plus the worldbuilding is excellent.
The appeal is in having a story that can be followed and is also long. Other Shonen series tend to just make it up entirely as they go along.
>Now they're gonna learn to fly!
>Now a space alien comes down to fight them!
>There's another evil empire to fight!
>We said the last four villains were the toughest criminals, but it's actually this guy!
It's not like One Piece has never made tweaks, but it's generally far better about foreshadowing future twists or at least providing some kind of clue that it was planned well in advance.
It's not like it requires much of a brain to follow; it is still Shonen. But it's nice to have a series that doesn't constantly undermine its plot and world for the sake of spectacle.
And in the realm of Shonen, it still manages to nail the basics. Stuff like consistent power levels and showing instead of telling.
If every Shonen series got right what One Piece does then it would be a better genre.
68d415 No.16260477
>>16260351
>>16260216
Personally but also objectively
Alabasta=Water 7 saga including enies lobby>Marineford>Prison Break>Sabody Saga>Skypeia>Start of One Piece and Chopper's arc (I lump it all in.)>Thriller Bark=Dressrosa the two ironically are complete opposites>Whole Cake Irrelevant>Fishmeme Island>Zou>Wano>Mini arcs like Reverie which are literally just filler and exposition.
b5072d No.16260706
>>16260135
>The doomsday weapon is a bit farfetched though and would likely change the entire story and dynamics of OP if were true
No one would be stupid enough or strong enough to try. Also, no one would have the technology to achieve it. Plus, I'm pretty sure the whole thing is a secret in the marine and the government exactly because it's dangerous.
No one would be able to pull it because ththey lacked one or several of those. Except Z for his background.
>Gold
I literally fell asleep.
64e181 No.16260727
>>16242576
>one piss game
I'm pretty sure they only cared about making a quick buck off retard kids and manchildren.