/v/ - Video Games

I love seeing the market implode in on itself like this. Digital competition is so fake it's hilarious.

It's going to be shit anyway. None of these vidya has-beens have been able to bring the old magic back.

>>16236155

Fucking dumbasses

I would not be surprised in the slightest if the shekels they got from Epic are more than what they'll lose from refunds.

>make timed exclusives with some nigger store no one uses

>be shocked later when you sell 100 copies total worldwide

As shit as Steam is, it's still the largest market and to ignore it is to ignore profits

>Get more profit from purchases.

>But get less costumers to purchase it.

Seems like a sound strategy if they are being bribed with a contract beforehand. More a loss on their customers if the gamble doesn't work out but more money for the developers, at least short term. PC online store exclusivity is very stupid. The only way I'd accept game exclusivity on a online storefront is if they specifically paid for the development of the game. Unless someone can name one, I don't remember any game with a 1 year timed exclusive deal that has ever benefited on the console it was released on first. Most people aren't going to buy or purchase a console for just 1 game, and they certainly won't for a different store front unless they are certain that they can't get that game on their preferred online store. If it will come out a year later, most people can wait the year, unless they have the disease of the fear of missing out.

>>16236245

they have the chink government backing them, have to get all burger personal info.

>>16236178

You do know that Epic is owned by China, right? Their plan is to turn PC gaming into the equivalent of a console war. Everybody will lose, starting with the consumers.

Why does the guy talking look like Colin Mochrie with AIDS?

>>16236193

That was a nice image set.

>>16236155

Buyfags BTFO.

Pirate everything.

>video unlisted

that was quick

>>16236508

It was a private video made for their reddit (I think). A friend linked it to me who was also excited for it.

Glad I didn't back it, I was planning on buying it on release but now I'll just pirate it. Denuvo announcement when?

>Pre-pay and wait a long ass time to get a key for the product you purchased well ahead of time to support the devs and a project you believe in

>get stabbed in the back, given the reach-around, betrayed, spit on your face and maybe even more! imagine all at the same time

LM,AO

The worst thing about all of this is that instead of competing on features and price and what else, they decide that its better to compete on something that wasn't a problem before in the PC gaming space and which they completely created themselves: exclusive games.

Friendly reminder that if you support epic games in any way, they are the ones that stopped developing UT4 and they are china owned, so double fuck them. You shouldn't even think about using unreal engine for any projects.

Oh good, gives me even more reason to pirate and save some money.

>>16236178

You do know that people should care about these shitty business practices, right? Even if they are dumbasses who kickstarted it, they should still get the game as soon as it is ready. This sets a really shitty precedent.

>>16236178

I can't tell if posts like this are bait or not.

>Shit on Steam for removing certain games from the store

>Games that aren't even allowed on the other major stores and never will be.

>buying games

FYI, epic store games get cracked faster than Denuvo

Lot's of devs that go with Epin Gays explain that they get a bigger cut. Well, that's great for them but shitty for us, our data is getting sold to the fucking chinese, that's why they can give them a bigger cut. I'm not gonna defend Steam, but at least it has more features and of course doesn't sell you out to the bugmen.

>>16236731

isn't the real reason because epic games is backed by tencent so they can afford to give away money to people to make their games store exclusive for a long ass time

>>16236742

In other words because they sell our data to chinks.

>>16236742

Yes they get paid a lot for exclusivity, take a look at Satisfactory, they paid them enough to run the studio for a long time.

>>16236748

Also I forgot to add, the game was advertised on Steam for a long ass time, to gather interest and then they removed it. Thanks for free publicity, fucking sellouts.

>>16236222

If they're smart they just pirate it and then it's a lose lose for the dev because now that customer has even less incentive to buy it. It really is a short sighted idiotic move.

>>16236731

It's short sighted and greedy. Steam for all its faults is convenient and generally locking people out for a whole year for their preferred platform is going to rub people the wrong way. I hope every dev that took the short term money end up to rue their decision and people choose to pirate this shit instead.

>>16236731

>they get a bigger cut

From smaller sales than steam.

>>16236731

>our data is getting sold to the chinese

all you have to do is not buy their and not use their shitty services and this point is moot. if you're a buyfag in current year youre just fucking retarded

>>16236155

As somebody who funded it.

I am getting access to alphas and betas, so I am not sure if it is going to affect me all that much. I will probably get access to the latest betas all the way till the release date.

I love how Epic's business model is to anger and piss off every potential customer that exists. They somehow do not realize that a 90/10 split means shit if you only sell 5% of your potential customers. People playing fortnite are not potential customers they are children who cannot pay for video games.

>>16236892

>they are children who cannot pay

on top of that

How can someone be so retarded to think that just because there's more fortnite players than steam users, that fortnite players will buy your game because it uses the same client?

>>16236318

>Epic is owned by China, right

Majority shares of Epic Games are owned by Tim Sweeney, not Tencent. I think the share split was 60/40.

>>16236742

Yeah but they are also owned by Tencent and are based around "social marketing". Tencent have control of your data from Epic thinking otherwise is foolish. They also recently went on record to say that their store is the perfect place for customers and needs no new features. The Epic game store will be a joke the only positive they have is what developers think of them and nobody who plays fortnite cares about developers. Then every developer that goes to them immediately destroys the entirety of their goodwill. 4A's is destroyed and they didn't even make the decision.

Notice how everyone in this thread defending or making excuses for Epic types like English is their second language at most.

>>16236926

>Tim Sweeney

Aside from him being a kike which expectedly would help chinks, Tencent has major influence over Epic Games due to this 40% shares ownership.

What a fucking faggot.

>Ebin Store exglusive :DDD Refund if you don't like :DDDD

He only got the funds to make the fucking game in the first place thanks to the backers, only to throw them under the bus.

>>16236992

Typical for kikestarter anyway. Funny that no one learned anything from all those shitshows.

>>16236480

>>16236508

They just realized how badly they fucked up. Oh well can't back out now can they?

>>16237018

Not if they already took/spent the money

>>16236508

Sure it wasn't unlisted from the start and only intended for backers?

>>16236245

they did

the deal they got from Epic was just bundle of cash, "minimum sales" thing where even if PP doesn't sell a single copy they'll still get paid up to X amount

supposedly it's enough to keep their company running for a few years

>>16236992

even worse, it had actual investors from Fig who probably only invested with the idea that the game was going to be sold on steam/gog and reach enough of the market that way

>>16237063

They're pretty much banking on the fact Epic is trying to barge into the market. Pay a dev far more than he's worth not in the hopes of making profit from him, but in the hopes of drawing customer base away from the competition.

>>16237063

What happened to making more of the game when it sells well so you know you have a market for it? What if everyone hates the game? I don't think it would be wise to invest a bunch of money into DLC for it.

>>16236992

Call it an interest-free loan.

>>16237075

see >>16237072

Epic is trying to buy their way into market share/customer base, it's probably gonna backfire massively. The PR backlash alone is going to put Epic's store into the grave.

It's hilariously incompetent

Devs who take the deal are chasing the money and burning all their bridges at the same time.

>>16237087

Fuck, anon, that's literally what I've been thinking. Not only is it interest-free, but the lender is the one who takes ALL of the risk.

>friends keep rubbing the game in my face

>telling me that I like UFO Defense so I would love this

>they back it

>constantly tell me that I'm being a downer and how good it will be

>they sell it to Epic because they don't have money to make it after crowdfunding

Funny, I never looked at the game. I just knew that Gollop was a washed-up hack whose best successes, like UFO Defense, were complete accidents caused by random producers throwing demands at him. I didn't expect a game made by someone who was retweeting a certain bluehair from 2014 to be any good to begin with.

>>16237100

Naw paid exclusivity always works. Xbone was built around it at first, look at how amazing it is doing. SFV took a bunch of money to stay PS4/PC only and that game sold gangbusters as well.

>>16237142

>Look how amazing it's doing.

Most of it's exclusives were later released on PC (an obvious indicator of poor performance).

>>16237109

About a year ago or so when every other company was trying to make their own netflix there was a slue of articles about how piracy was going up because people just said fuck it to having to manage like 10 different online accounts.

>>16236155

Literally who?

>>16237164

xcom spiritual successor

>>16237109

What would an ideal digital distribution platform look like?

I imagine something like this

>GoG style simple DRM free executable downloads

>Optional "library" client that can scan for games and automatically add them as well as manually add any executable

>Library client can be used as above with no internet connection, optional log in to service to automatically update games (game updates can also be downloaded in the same way game executables can be from the site) which can be enabled or disabled on a per game basis

>>16237167

How did anyone expect anything good from a dev cozying up to Mr Shitface? Are you guys retarded?

>>16237109

>>16237170

If it keeps going it will lead to another PC crash similar to the early steam days. PC has piracy as a competitor and every time a game goes "exclusive" it is met with universal backlash. Division 2 started to give away free games with every pre-order a few weeks ago.

>>16237125

Your tab memes did not go unappreciated, anon.

>>16236193

I can't find the image set even with the filename, sauce?

>>16237278

Selling your game on every platform that is willing to sell it is the only not-shitty practice.

>>16237287

You can say "md5:1a2b3c4d" to a booru.

>>16237629

So the mod and one of the devs are against the decision to go to Epic?

>>16237629

>won't somebody think of the poor devs!

>>16237654

It's a moderator warning a shill and then one of the game's developers coming in to express some support for the shilling of the shill. It's really rather petty for me to make a post out of it, but it's something.

I posted a screencap from the Discord that made a person who was actually against this look like another shill because of something he said appearing at the wrong time, so I've just deleted that screencap now.

>>16237678

Instead of deleting shit just explain how you fucked up retard

>>16236155

And everyone who pre-ordered got fucked, those Chinks are sneaky, they already got confirmation that their 90/10 deal is hurting GOG since their little press release about laying off some employees after fucking around with Gwent and not updating their GOOD OLD GAMES catalog, it's gonna be interesting that's for sure, Valve and GOG better do some planning.

>>16237693

>valve

>planning

to big to care, but gog is in trouble, if they are depending on newer releases which is fucking retarded, they should have released most of the pornographic japanese vns when they had the change, but they let that ship sail a long time ago.

>>16237732

Hanekem was probably responding to a different post of RogueVector I guess.

>>16237735

Or possibly he was saying that the developer's actions aren't acceptable

>>16237744

Everyone.

>>16237744

Whoever said that is a retard. Exclusives have been a thing for decades.

>>16237732

>I want PP on steam

heh

>>16237763

Once they have enough dumb normalfags with accounts on their store, they'll increase the developer revenue fees. They're probably losing more money than making money to establish this new storefront.

>>16236904

They have to be extremely out of touch to think normalniggers even know their fortnite account is connected to some store.

>>16237763

>The correct answer is piracy always

Yeah, then no games are made anymore, genius.

>>16237846

Attempted thread derailment.

>>16237817

Huh. I appreciate the informative reply. I basically live under a rock as far as the video games industry is concerned.

Sounds the the future is full of butthurt. This is almost exciting to hear, except fucking china is involved.

>>16237744

> How many devs is this so far?

i remember rogue galaxy outcast.

>Another game I had my eyes on that I can pirate no strings attached

Thanks Gollop!

As much as I hate steam, I hate Epic for ruining UT and creating fortnite and a load of other garbage games. Epic can burn in hell and doesn't deserve anyone's money.

>>16237846

One can only hope.

>yt comments, twitter comments, even their own little subreddit eating them alive

>comments about pirating it getting yuge upboats when normalfags typically respond to piracy as if it's a violent mugging

The backers for this project must be slightly above your average normalnigger, the usual chattel would never show so much spine.

>>16237698

>but they let that ship sail a long time ago

They wouldn't do that even now, not even if they were in agony. They would rather get bigger portion of indie hipster shit since this seems to be what their "principles" are.

>>16237744

>Those anons were so fucking wrong

They probably didn't expect chinks with shitton of money to appear on the market. Tencent must be paying a very great portion of money if those companies are so willing to take such huge risks and they hate to take any kind of risks. I wonder how much it takes, do they cover budgets of those games or promises to compensate all the losses too?

>>16237814

A perfect digital store made solely for developers/publishers which automatically translates into anti-customer since all those publishers are kikes.

>>16238475

>I wonder how much it takes, do they cover budgets of those games or promises to compensate all the losses too?

I have heard that, in addition to an upfront payout, they have "Guaranteed sales" which means they say (using arbitrary numbers) "You'll sell half a million copies, and if you don't we'll give you the difference between what you made in actuality and what you would have if you sold half a million".

>>16238479

That does makes sense. There is no way they would risk their asses otherwise and the risk is even bigger than making something different instead of using existing AAA formulas.

So what's the game like anyways? A compromise between nu-xcom's simplicity, skill system and old xcom's TUs, aiming and ballistics? Because quite frankly that's what Firaxis should have done in the first place but didn't because they're fucking hacks.

It's such a shame this game is raising red flags with this move and the fact that I recall it was funded by Fig or something.

>>16237185

This is so true. The reason why I've never truly minded Steam all these years is because it provides enough value to make having it on my pc worth while.

Valve gets a lot of hate these days, but the reason why Steam has done so well is because Gabe was right when he said "piracy is a service issue" (or something to that effect).

The fact is that despite many missteps and controversies, Valve has proven to be a very good caretaker of PC gaming. There was a period where PC gaming was practically dead. I remember when game smugly reviewers joked that PC gaming should be renamed "wow gaming", because that was the only widespread game being played (aside from stuff like CS 1.6, DOTA and a few RTS games). Steam literally made pc gaming a viable space for developers by getting the product to the people and being unobtrusive enough that gamers didn't mind having the software on their pc.

PC gamers are a fickle bunch, always have been. People will start pirating and hacking games again if they try to upset the market here.

You mean Epicfags get to beta test this shit for a year and pay full price for it? That's a damn good thing.

>>16238639

>literally a crappy RTS

Your google-fu is pretty weak. Upgrade yourself.

>>16238467

I'd like to think so but no they're probably just steam drones.

>>16236697

>This sets a really shitty precedent

One that no one will follow when no one buys the fucking game and everyone who backed it shit talks the game up and down their board of choice not only until launch but for an entire year afterward.

>>16236245

From what the devs said so far they've given them enough money that even if all backers request a refund they'd still have money left over.

>>16236904

Don't forget that a lot of the fortnite playerbase is on consoles and mobile. The 200 million number isn't the one that is using the epic store to play it.

>>16237177

>No DRM

>good security

>website internet 1.0 UI that's clean, clear and not resource heavy

>client has screenshot server (no public, friends-only or private or ratings), and friends lists with voice chat and group chats.

>refunds

>>16237732

>expecting something you were offered delivered in that way is unacceptable behavior

Topkike

How do free-market fags explain the state of video gaming industry which wasn't regulated in any significant way?

>>16238698

Good to know, that's something I completely forgotten about.

Since it's F2P I'm betting it isn't all unique players either.

>>16236155

Pay pigs BTFO. I love seeing the Valve drones squirm, I never wanted Steam to begin with yet the Valve drones refusing to boycott is why digital distribution has a monopoly on PC.

Anyone that has ever paid for digital distribution voted with their wallet for this because you voted with your wallet for the developer to make as much profit as possible with the least amount of effort even at the expense of the game. DLC and micro transactions are a bad thing yet no one is bitching about that, just proves that Valve has done irreversible damage to gaming and has brainwashed people.

Perfect opportunity to start demanding DRM free physical releases, whether it be on flash drive or disc, but everyone is too busy praising le gaben. Fuck Valve and fuck Epic.

So are backers locked into their key choice? They don't get an Epic key?

>>16238475

Who says it has to be money? There's a good chance it's just straight up blackmail.

>>16238940

>How do free-market fags explain the state of video gaming industry which wasn't regulated in any significant way?

the industry thats currently taking a shellacking? It's getting what it deserves, provide shit quality and people leave/find other alternatives. any freemarket fag claiming that everything wil lbe honest and work without issues is stupid or naive. what will happen is what you're eeing with phoenix point, people abandon your product.

>>16236892

>They somehow do not realize that a 90/10 split means shit if you only sell 5% of your potential customers

>>16237811

>States that the money will help them get the professionally-made already-funded project done

>Comes into work and reads this speech >>16236193 he had clearly never read before from a monitor

>Plays Warframe for the entirety of his waking day on a Wednesday afterwards

No amount of money is going to make this game feel complete.

>>16239090

Oh fuck me right in the ass, I had company show up and interrupt me and I forgot to even reply to one of the posts I quoted. I was going to say that 5% was a generous prediction, because the overwhelming majority of people who download the Epic launcher know it only as the Fortnite launcher. But I guess everybody knows that.

>>16238940

>How do free-market fags explain the state of video gaming industry which wasn't regulated in any significant way?

The video game market is being hot really hard right now because their practices are coming back to hurt them. It's great but it cannot always be there best markets take time to react but they are a hell of a lot faster than governments. The one shitty thing is terrible companies taking over cherished properties. However this is because of the insane copyright legislation

>>16239059

He basically told his backers to choose between:

>requesting a full refund

>stay with gog and steam with free DLC for a year

>to go fuck themselves

The DLC one is obviously a garbage choice, why an epic key was never given as well for free is amusing, and assumes that some people will use the refund to do so.

>>16239164

Wait you cannot just choose to get the game for epic and cuck out? So all their backers are the last people to have access to the game they backed?

>>16239140

because my shitposting will ruin the credibility of their database

>>16239173

That's how I read some of the backers comments after this came out and what Gollop says in the video.

>>16239163

>because their practices are coming back to hurt them

Better not tell you the gacha revenue (^:

>>16236155

>Backers will not receive steam or GoG keys for a year either.

Is that even legal?

>>16239239

The post revenue instead of profit on those for a reason you know.

>people pay extra to get GoG keys

>lol you're not going to get them for a year after launch

How the FUCK did they EVER think this was going to be a good idea?

This wasn't even a particularly well-known game to begin with, why did they get Epicbux?

>>16239252

Perhaps despite all the grandstanding Epic is terrified of anything getting big enough on their platform to topple Fortnite. The game is supposedly already bleeding users at an insane rate anyway.

>>16239252

Because chinese government can get user data through tencent and on top of that they want to compete with steam

>>16239259

>The game is supposedly already bleeding users at an insane rate anyway.

That's because of the Titanfall spinoff Apex Legends, I don't play BRs but I've heard it's a much better game from the very foundation up.

>>16239266

That doesn't answer my fucking question, this game was super obscure, there would have been better games to buy.

>>16239272

>but I've heard it's a much better game from the very foundation up

I have a very hard time believing that.

>>16239272

Maybe everyone saw what happened to metro and are avoiding them?

>>16239276

Again, never played it.

>>16239239

Among gacha games all the most successful ones are the ones that have threads here where people talk about how they are happy with the games. You may not like those games but their customers seem to be. None of them are locking of brands either, CyGames is expanding into console games and there is still tons of fate stuff and SNK are still making other games as well.

And even if epic doesn't tencent can bail them out.

And even if tencent doesn't the chinese govt can bail them out.

>>16239545

was a reply to >>16239497

>>16239548

We should all be campaigning for piracy of any Epic store game. This is because Epic are the ones losing money if sales thresholds aren't being met, and developers are getting free money to make the games we want.

its interesting, its pretty obvious the are doing things in the shadows to better the situation for developers unlike steam that focuses almost entirely on user experience

also i read somewhere they prioritize other things above "number" of features

>>16237811

>reddit 4chan

always the perfect crime.

>>16238431

the sky is the limit!

>>16237811

>reddit 4chan

God damn those cursed ebaumsworld terrorists.

What does discord offer in terms of totalitarian control that reddit is seen as "hub of toxicity"?

>>16239561

Yeah if they actually make up for lost sales the way to maximize the money developers get is to pirate their games. The game will sell like shit therefore get more money from epic. Then but the game when it releases everywhere else. Even the normalfags who denounce piracy as stealing won't be able to argue against it. Did this shit to Reddit.

>>16238431

>They're just going to cancel releasing on GoG

They might, according to one of the devfag leakers both GoG and Steam are pissed

>>16239804

Sauce?

>>16239898

assholes. Straight up assholes. Make sure to save all incriminating evidence because you'll need it to attack the shill fags.

>>16239915

kek. Refusal of refund as well.

>>16239939

They're probably not going to answer many important questions, more damage control screenshots would be neat though.

>>16239252

>>16239272

It's a Chinese business tactic, buy everything that is low hanging fruit to pad out your hastily propped up competitor. After a certain point they'll start shilling for hueg original game exclusives and making any suckers who are with them longer term to churn out shitty trash, possibly with the employees they hired from those companies.

>>16239939

That is just sad.

>>16239962

>Tencent owns WeGame and EpicStore

>Can't get the game on WeGame

Great company. DING DONG PING PONG.

Fig should've been warning enough for those who pay attention.

>>16239977

Your screenshot already answers the question.

>and will run without the Epic Launcher

>>16239977

>Can anyone confirm if any epic games store games are currently DRM free?

Its up to the developer. They can turn around and shove Denuvo in it if they want to. At this point would anyone be surprised if they did that?

>>16239962

Wait, why is the epic launcher blocked in china? What insane chink thought it was a good idea to do that?

>>16240023

Are you telling me you don't expect China to make their own Fortnite clone for chinks only?

>>16240023

>>16240150

The whole purpose of Chink buyouts is to bankrupt competition. This includes the companies bought out as well.

>>16240152

Yeah, I can't imagine this company will ever make a successful game after this, and if there isn't a lot of interest why would tencent bribe them to make it?

>>16240168

They need to do it long term.

It's been 37 minutes since a question was answered so I assume the AMA is over.

>>16239082

that might be true of the frozen pizza or pig iron industry, but video games are an addictive escape for generations of now aging disaffected and alienated youth

>>16239090

>reads […] from a monitor

I didn't even notice that, I was laughing too hard.

Also, I guess people are angry, not just because they got shafted, but because it looks like an independent gamedev signing a contract with the devil, the exact scenario that crowdfunding was meant to replace (or at least people think that way).

>>16239898

WE DON'T NEED YOU TO BUY OUR GAMES

the state of gaming in 2019

>>16240150

It's not. The founder of the company is the majority share holder.

>>16239249

They probably though they could get away with it because in their eyes people are morons who will eat anything from their hands. There is really too much of overconfidence and this will bite them in the ass, at least as soon as chinks stop giving them money.

>>16240010

>EIther pr talk or they're more stupid then the look

I think they're just typical kikes who wanted the safest approach for getting maximized profit.

>>16241792

>in their eyes people are morons who will eat anything from their hands

To be fair, most people are.

>>16241817

Most people aren't the ones funding this game.

>>16241857

so Every poor mother fucker who got an Epic Account is now held by Chinese Government? Dumb Cunts

>>16241792

>I think they're just typical kikes who wanted the safest approach for getting maximized profit.

What kind of Kike would deliberately sign a 1-year deal that prevents them from tapping into all three markets at their choosing? A retarded one that's who.

>>16241883

>>16241857

Excellent investigative work, thanks anon

>>16241392

>Developers don't need gamers anymore and that's a good thing

>>16241857

>>16241883

I mean, has anybody expected anything else from Chinese-sponsored storefront trojan? Too bad Steam or whatever probably aren't much better in that regard.

>>16241817

>To be fair, most people are

Yes, but to what extend?

>>16241875

>A retarded one that's who

It's not like there are smart kikes. In the end nearly all of them are retarded which is why we have the industry is such garbage state. You don't have to be smart to exploit a bunch of retards, getting into business wouldn't be as easy otherwise.

>>16241857

>>16241883

Not surprised even in the slightest.

>>16241883

so their client a wrapped IE?

SORRY GOYIM, but a deal's a deal! We made this deal with Epic to snaure the success of our game. What's that? You're saying you backed our game expecting a DRM-free release on GOG? Do you have any commitment written and signed by us? No? Too bad, guess you'll have to sit around and wait for a year! Try to avoid in spoilers! Guess you'll just have to stay out of any discussion threads about a game you were excited enough about to back!

It should be illegal to charge for digital distribution and piracy should be legal.

>>16242982

>GOG

>DRM-free

I'm tired of this meme

>>16237125

F L A T

D E S I G N

>>16242663

I could see the article now "Developers No Longer Need Customers and That's a Good Thing". They right a giant piece pointing out that all developers should go to epic they have no user reviews or forums for harrasment campaigns. Plus they give you sales even if nobody buys your game.

The normalfags need to be educated about how epic's guaranteed sales agreement works. Also that because of this the way to ensure developers to get the most money is to boycott the epic store and buy the game on steam/gog after exclusivity ends.

>>16243385

Gog has me really worried right now but they are drm-free I don't know why you think otherwise.

>>16237846

There will always be normalfags that waster their money.

>>16243385

Feel free to dispute this fact of you've found some cute anecdote.

>>16237752

>>16237735

I just assumed he was a typical person of the current year and stating that it's unacceptable to hold people to their promises. Because the world has fallen and nothing can save it from circling the drain.

But will PP be good?

>>16243592

It's Nu-XCOM with free aim from what we have seen so far. Not bad, but it's been pushed back twice already. Given that they just took a lot of Chink money I would guess they ran into problems.

>>16243961

I think discord is going to start shrinking soon. I hardly hear anybody talk about it in a positive light anymore. Most people just use it now because it's free and what everyone was using. A privacy centered alternative that cut out all the bloat and memes would probably find a starting userbase that could grow.

>>16243961

This is why an internet reset needs to happen, if it doesn't normalfags are going to lead the world into a cyberpunk nightmare that hasn't even been imagined yet.

>>16241857

So it's doing essentially what every other big corporation does? Certainly hope you don't use Windows 10, Google Chrome or Facebook.

There are so many good reasons to shit on Epic/Tencent, and they absolutely are spying on the user, but it's reminiscent of the Huawei situation: Who would you rather spy on you, a country that can prosecute you or a country that can't?

The correct answer is neither. Pirate everything.

>>16244005

You don't hear about it on /v/ because we mostly bully the discord fags out of here. I imagine it's still in widespread use elsewhere.

>>16244058

>Chinese

The owners are a jewish.

I know… /pol/ crap and stuff, but let's call a cat a cat and a jew a jew shall we?

http://archive.fo/NuGHZ

>>16244115

>I know… /pol/ crap and stuff

Cuckchan?

>>16244068

My buddies are too apathetic to switch to riot or matrix unfortunately

>>16244173

Make buddies who do care.

I really hope /cyber/ can coalesce around a handful of services and become more of a community thing

>>16244057

It is but before normalfags would say discord is great I'm glad it was made. Now the conversation is not happening or people are negative about it

>>16244168

He says that because fags always go "muh pole" or "dah joos" every time someone names the jew. The has been happening more lately.

>>16244980

Theres no meat on that hook.

What is Phoenix Point?

>>16245132

Bootleg X-com but advertised as not as shitty as firaxis ones.

I stopped pirating PC games maybe 10 years ago, but this whole Epic bullshit is gonna make me restart.

The funny thing is that with the minimum sales guarantee, even buyfags can pirate with a clear conscience, since Epic will graciously pay for our non-sold copies to devs! Great, huh? So pirate fucking everything.

>>16237125

Valve did the same thing with that pointless community tab. Where did this "randomly size the tiles and mix them up" shit come from?

>>16252947

Just privacy. One you get a profile built even if you move to a new computer it can follow you. I personally don't like the idea of someone tracking my tastes and looking in on what I am doing.

>>16244058

oh my god, they had to make a shitty annoying meme to combat the anti-discord hate

>>16252947

there are billions of TERABYTES of info being collected off everybody. big companies like google and amazon have literal black holes of storage space. if this doesn't scare you you're a retard. there gonna let an ai have access to all that data at some point.

it's going to get worse with as many people there are like you. apathetic retards. why let those greedy jews steal shit from you and make a profit

data mining is the new way to make cash off people who wont pay. it's replacing ads. ads are cancer and so is data mining. I bet you don't use adblock

>>16253069

I'm less concerned with them selling my information for profit and more about when they decide to use the information they have gathered offensively to blackmail politicians and rig elections.

>>16243961

I'd wager modern marketing, maybe marketing in general, has always had some sort of "bot net." If it's supposed to go to marketing companies, then people who are resistant to influence will notice very little change in their lives, if there is any change. I know I do. "Predicting behavior patterns" doesn't faze me either, since people knowing what I like might actually help normalfags stay the hell away from me. "Predicting behavior patterns to sell to governments" doesn't faze me either, since not wanting to be a normalfag makes me to probably every government an inherent domestic terrorist anyway, and I'm still here, so whatever.

>>16255277

2 shekels deposited in your account

>>16255288

Get the fuck out of our site you rapefugee.

>>16255291

I was here before (you)

>>16255291

You're a faggot and you have never contributed anything to any operations that have ever been done.

>>16255288

Source?

I'm pretty happy overall. They get more money to work on DLCs in the short term, more hate is generated toards Epic (which is always good), and the game is being released DRM Free, so I can pirate it on day one with no fear of botnets or cryptominers. Sounds good to me.

>>16236926

There are 2 board members on Epic from Tencent. This does not bode well. Plus, Epic could end up being purchased by Tencent in the long run, which I think is their actual end game once they finish fattening up the western pig.

Incidentally, here's a Grid 2 steam key I dont need:

V9WJX-CKP8C-M2QXM

>>16255345

>Pasting the key vanilla into the website

I wonder what bot got it.

>>16255302

>>16255313

>>16255328

>>16255331

No matter how many times you change vpns it won't change the fact that you are a self admitted browser of both cuckchan and reddit.

>>16255347

it was me, you could have gotten it but you just assumed it was already gone

>>16255345

thank you kindly

>>16236155

Oh no, I have to open the red DRM software instead of the blue DRM software! What ever shall I do?

Not just play a fucking video game regardless of the client software like a non-retard, obviously.

>>16255393

A non-retard pirates it so you don't have to open either DRMware.

>>16255396

That's all well and good, but I'm interested in putting my earned money towards things I care about. Whether I buy this game all depends on how the content is looking at release though.

>>16255393

>Not pirating

Tiannanmen Square ching chong ding dong

>preorder games

>get fucked

good

>>16255473

>here's no way in hell that there is that much organic support for the crossposter.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised though, considering how thoroughly invaded this board is. Cuckchan cancer should have been dealt with when it wasn't such a big problem.

>>16236155

I had to google phoenix point

>>16236155

shrug, I got that dumb launcher for gesesis alpha something something, the colony clones are you are lives game. still on my first serious run of that, once you get 4 shields(muh plat) almost everything is a joke. there is some area that is still yellow. I was just going to beat the game, unlock and research everything and then uninstall epic but now PP will keep it on there.

PP is pretty far from release. we should get backer build 4?I think soon but there are a lot of systems to tweak. It seems to me based on backer 3. So we are looking at a year till release and then another year after that?

PP has a lot of potential and it should be close to original real not shit xcom. More money to this dev in this case is fine with me.

all that said we need to mode this guy's body into game as a corrupted human or something. Xcom: enemy unkown was one of the greatest pc games ever made

>>16255265

Good work anon. It's always nice to see autism have real world effects

>>16253038

>>16253069

Yeah, I understand it's a little fucked to have your privacy invaded like that… but at the same time I feel like nowhere on internet is safe anymore. So I don't care much about it. I just hope the fbi doesn't come to my house just because I post racist stuff.

>>16256132

Are you actually a child?

>>16255265

>Just remember anons, a well-crafted shitpost or two can cause some genuinely interesting, far-reaching changes.

This is why they want to spy and control everything. Can you imagine how terrifying it is to them that some random faggot like you can cause a shitstorm like that? Just some random fuckery from you was able to get the attention of a shitload of users and even getting Sweeney to comment on it. Imagine how easily and how much your little infographs will get posted in general anti-Epic-posting through various websites. That's fucking terrifying to them, that was a very bad goy move of you.

Also the point of archiving is only to deny clicks/ads, though it is a large reason. It's also to preserve information since you never know when something can be ghosted, whether it's from the websites/write/author or from outside pressure. In cases like you pointed out, you can still post the direct link, but silently archive it to to ensure nothing can memory-holed either.

https://archive.is/4y2VH

This sounds very sueable

>>16266947

Projectiles I think.

>>16255277

sounds like you're just jealous he redpilled some normalfags

I was curious as to why I even wanted Phoenix Point, so I decided to pirate Enemy Within and run long war on it again because I enjoyed that the most.

It amazes me how such a buggy piece of shit was so well recieved. It amazes me how much effort went into changing a garbage piece of shit into something much better when better bases exist.

I sincerely hope that regardless of how Phoenix Point is, it serves as an infinitely better modding base than Enemy Within or X2 ever did.

>>16237109

>muh crash

so a fabricated event that only "happened" in north america

>>16280851

Your company is dying.

>>16279828

it was because civilization was the hot new shit on the market at the time so they forced them to make the strategic world layer. so all the stuff like the ufopaedia, research, and manufacturing were just microprose trying to cash in of civ type games. the funny thing is that only the original ufo defense has really stood the test of time and the only successor thats remotely close is xenonauts.

>>16237109

Another crash is literally impossible at this point.

>people decide to crowdfund game on new crowdfunding site called fig.co

>check site

>there is absolutely NO text anywhere saying the people you give money to are required to deliver anything, much less what was promised

>every founder/owner is a dev who would love nothing more than to get money for a game before they even release it

Over 10,000 morons fell for this scam.