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>>16217692

>Donte game

>Anywhere on any list

Disgusting

>>16217695

>not playing it to really understand and appreciate the better games

you have to eat shit in order to understand how fucking shit eating shit is

There's already a thread.

>>16211028

>>16217709

But i'm not talking about devil may cry 5

>>16217692

Have the earlier games aged poorly? if not i'll go download 1 right now

theres a 1 to 3 pack just get that.

>>16217726

dmc1 holds up, very good only does not hold up if you play dmc3 and think everything needs jump canceling, if anything you will miss some features from dmc1 when you play dmc3

dmc2 is soiled by shit enemies and obviously the guns being op but there are features in the game that gets translated over

dmc 3 is pretty good

and dmc 4 is also good but has been debated whether or not is it any better than dmc3

check out other capcom games like nightmare before christmas, the inspiration onimusha warlords & god hand, if you find dmc 2 and donte too fucking terrible

>>16217873

oh okay thanks,i'll get one

what's a good site for game torrents nowadays

>>16217873

>and dmc 4 is also good

>fighting the same lackluster boss fights FOUR TIMES EACH

DMC4 is good in character, aesthetic and combat skill potential. As a game it sucks, and I know there's a reason for that but that doesn't change it from being trash.

>>16218192

Well i'm starting with one,although i don't know why they would do 3 before 1,is it a prelogue or something?

>>16218202

Yeah it's a prequel

>>16218202

Yeah it's a prequel set years before the first game, you'll get it when you play it, don't worry about it.

It's just a poor man's Dark Souls.

It's comfy

>>16218629

>thewillenium

I dont know who this is or what this means, but I want him dead.

>>16218165

The bosses in 4 are great mechanically, other than savior you pleb

I'd recommend playing the whole series. HD Collection is a nice port of the first three games, then you get DMC4 Special Edition and maybe DmC if you really want to. Play in release order first, they are chronologically out of order, but the games evolve with each entry so going from 3 to 1 would be a little jarring. 1 is a good game and I hate to say the word, but dated. 2 is bad, I've tried twice but can only beat mission 5. You can totally skip DMC2 and you will miss nothing, but its worth just trying it to see how bad it is. 3 was the big game of the series, bringing it back from the brink and making it better than ever. 4 was half finished and it shows, but is still very good. Special Edition introduces Lady and Trish as playable characters as well as bringing back Vergil who is my favourite character to play.

I just finished the game and I am disappointed, flat out.

>Gameplay is great, not sure about SIN DT or the Faust hat, need more experimentation

>Bosses are all good/fun to fight except for Gilgamesh

>V is actually neat to play, which surprised me because I was quite worried

>Game feels short (10 hours on devil hunter for completion, with a few restarts because of crashes), pacing is messy and it gets real bad halfway through

>Story is absolute garbage, considerably worse than 4 and it feels really unfinished, there is no conclusion

>Both the execution of the story is obvious, treated with very little significance and the planning of the story seems just cobbled together with no moments that actually seem to work

Shit like Dante suddenly deciding that stabbing himself with Rebellion will make him stronger, and it working is the dumbest fucking shit I can imagine. A character is supposed to grow stronger because he is more determined, grows as a personality or near death setting the stakes higher, this absolutely fails at that. Before release we speculated that Trish dying would make Dante relive his mother's death and make him lose his shit, which is considerably more intelligent than what happened

>V and Urizen both being Vergil is treated with minimal significance, Nero is just reasonably pissed at his arm getting ripped off, Dante is merely frustrated and wants to murder his brother.

>Vergil has zero motivation to actually fight Dante once he turns to normal, other than fanservice. "We gotta fight."

>V was actually a fun, likeable character and should have been a newcomer rather than a one-off throwaway jester costume.

>Artstyle is mixed, some environments looked neat, but the industrial, bleak and the one-color hell parts are underwhelming, generally not a fan

>Character faces are fucked, Trish, Lady, Eva with her eye asymmetry and Vergil

>Nero's DT looks pretty damn bad in this

>>16218158

the only face they messed up is Claire, and Biohazard has always gone for a realistic aesthetic the original had live action scenes

>>16218644

That's the correct response, anon. It means you're still human.

>>16218629

I don't know what gothic art is but it looks like Dark Souls

>Matrix reference

Quality bait blogging.

>>16219058

See I mostly agree, except the bosses were fucking awful too much cinematic bullshit during fights that take control away from the player or make you have periods of waiting. V to me felt like he just was designed for a different game and shoved in last minute.

Game is absurdly short and feels rushed, the story is a trainwreck. I'd put this below 4 and above 2. If it had color coded enemies the story is bad enough that I would put it below 2, but thankfully that's been contained to the absolutely awful reboot

3>1>4>>5>2>>>>DmC

DMC1 is best. Emulate it on PS2 though because the version in the HD Collection is missing a bunch of stuff

>>16228629

emulation also breaks a lot of things. Play on a PS2. Do not emulate.

>all these subhuman fanboy rants a la "play without the mods first"/"play in release order"

From what I gather from this thread, the correct answer is "play DMC3 and that's it".

All of you have to understand that most people don't fucking care and just want to play the game that's least likely to be shit.

>>16219517

Ninja Gaiden Black isn't crazy but it's the best action game made yet.

>>16229072

fuck off fag

>>16217687

I had a friend back in highschool that presented himself as "Vergil", we knew it wasn't his real name but we started calling him as such resulting in us never remembering his real name. I once went to his house and there was a copy of devil may cry. I only found out over a decade later that a character was named like that in the game and I can't believe 18 years later I still can't remember his name because that game came out precisely at that time.

Just tried playing DMC3 from DMC HD collection and it's an absolute asscancer. Key bindings are awful and half the keys aren't bindable for some reason. Well, I got around that by using AHK, but now it appears I can't skip videos.

Apparently the Start button on controller does it, but they don't actually emulate it in any way in this port? I'm not going to re-watch the fucking intro every time I start the game.

The devs are so bad they couldn't even implement some basic camera stick emulation for mouse.

DS3 was outright better with KB+M, that couldn't be hard to do, right? Never needed a controller to play a game and I'm going to uphold this trend by dropping this turd.

>>16232089

>needing a mouse for DMC 3

Get a load of this faggot

>>16232089

>>16232089

I mean a mouse really isn't necessary for DMC1-4 anyway

DMC1 and 2 have fixed camera angles

and DMC3 and 4 have fixed camera like 80% of the time. Even when your given camera control your gonna be using lock on anyway so manually moving the camera yourself is never something you have to do.

>>16217701

But you already have DMC2 on the list

>>16218158

How good are the japanese voices compared to the english ones?

>>16219517

bayo bats dodge is gay. at best its just under dmc3

>>16235961

>The original DMC has an amazingly unique gothic theatre-style atmosphere

And dumb puppet enemies.

>>16237565

And underwater FPS levels

>>16237571

And filling your dark soul with li-ight

>>16237565

Well the Puppet enemies are actually great since they show that Mundus is a puppet Master, who is stringing Dante along for the entire game.

>>16237674

I can mostly agree with that, I still Like DMC1 the most, but that's not a big deal, DMC5 is pretty much that 2nd half of DMC4 we never got.

Concepts from the DMC4 art book like Dante's Ultimate DT and Nero's getting a True DT are finally in this game. It really brings some satisfying Closure to all the loose ends that DMC4 left us. But yeah beyond that the Plot is spread pretty thin, so I would say that DMC3 is objectively the strongest in the most areas.

Still DMC5's Royal Guard is the most fun i'v had with the Style, and the 2nd Urizen fight is like what if the Arkham Boss was actually fun. So DMC5 still has allot that makes it a worthy entry.

>>16237674

I've been playing 5 a lot but recently went back to three just to see how it holds up. And GODDAMN does it take the fucking cake. Nothing can top 3. Not even 5 as much as I'm enjoying it.

>>16237561

Her TITS HAVE JIGGLE PHYSICS

My rankings, I rank my games in order of sheer amount of content, fluid gameplay, and general enjoyment. I am incapable of feeling nostalgia probably because of the 'tism.

DMC5>DMC3>DMC4>DMC1>DMC2

I don't know why some of you guys love DMC1 being that its aged like yogurt and is incredibly rough around the edges, not the mention the fucking water level and the godawful flying section of the Mudus fight.

>>16217687

Just play the games in release order dumbass.

I thought that would make sense to anybody with at least half a conscience.

You better also play DMC2 if you want the full DMC experience, because if you dont, you're pretty much a little bitch.

>>16237513

How the fuck do you S-rank the prolouge?

I only managed to A-rank it at best.

>>16237738

only thing I can say is last as long as you can during the boss fight or beat it if you can.

I mean I'v been playing DMC for 11 years so these S ranks have been coming real easy for me, I don't know how much advice I can give beyond Get SSS in combat, and Git Gud,

>>16237738

Taunting particularly air taunting for mobility as long as you don't spam it and perfect dodges?special mention to "CUHRAYYYZZEEEE COWABUNGA KYRIEEEE COMBO'S" on the boss?

Everything else seems to drop too fast to really "style" on them much.

>>16228639

Don't listen to this faggot. Emulate it with hardware mode resolution x3 or x4 and you're good to go

>>16237753

I mean if your goal is to actually beat Urizen then I found the best way is once you get the shield down is to you Showdown, then Breakage Buster him, since the Buster Arm does far more damage then the Devil Bringer, and then use Showdown again, once the Shield is down you can kill him in one shot that way, unless your on DMD then that gets his health down to half. so you break the shield again and then repeat.

Still you shouldn't even need to break the shield to get an S, you should have plenty of Style points by just lasting as long as you can while getting what ever hits you can on the Crystal before losing.

>>16237821

What a gay.

>>16237917

I didn't mind V so much as Urizen. Mostly because once again, Vergil is involved in mass murder, and unlike last time, it wasn't off screen. At least I think, the tower rising definitely killed some people in DMC3, but I don't remember if it was ever mentioned in game. You see people get killed and you see the corpses of the people killed as a result of Urizen/Vergil's actions. It makes Nero not killing his dad, and stopping Dante from doing so a lot more like everyone, except Dante, is forgetting everything that happened until then.

>>16238013

Yeah I know what you mean but it seems like at least this time it wasn't entirely Vergil's fault seeing as Urizen was totally demonic and as such had no qualms about doing something like that. The Temen-ni-Gru killing people I'd blame more on Arkham than Vergil too, Vergil just seemed indifferent to it all but it wasn't his intent.

>>16237783

Yeah, I should have thought of that myself usually given the bonus points for actually killing the boss and in fast enough times you should get a good boost to score towards S rank for killing him plus fast unlock of higher diff's if you succeed.I just noticed that a lot of the issue with peoples low score was not realising all the cool little tricks nero can pull and the general abuse of taunts you can employ now for that sweet style.Every time I pull off a bantom dodge or table hopper timed right it just gives me an awesome sense of satisfaction with the slow down it's just sublime. The bonus style feels so rewarding for it too.I'm definitely trying your strat though, buster arm is busted.I'm seeing more people using it now in decent play vids.Double buster is the way to go for quality boss ass kicking it seems.

>>16237917

I was fine with it. It was a fun reveal to me, because for a lot of the game you have Urizen and V who are both acting like Vergil, leading one to wonder if one of them is Vergil. Then it turns out they're both Vergil. I thought it was neat. I mean this whole game is one big fanservice wank, it's Capcom trying to gently stroke us off and walk us back into their stable. For the most part it worked, when you have to fight Griffon Shadow and Nightmare and the fucking DMC1 sirens start kicking in I was creaming my pants.

>>16238024

I think a lot of this was a soft "not totally redemption arc but kinda one" aspect to the clash. Because of V and Nero things have changed for him. He's still the same motivated ruthless sumbitch but there's growth and I'm ok with that personally.

>>16238033

>Second spoiler

I know right that really took me by surprise in a very good way. Rip Griffon he was a loyal bro. Not too different from what he was like in DMC1 in that regard.

>>16238035

Maybe I don't know if whatever part of V is in him is strong enough to have any sway on MORE POWER though it even seemed like V's endgame in the first place was to simply make sure Vergil got fully restored so he could get MORE POWER.

>>16238033

You thought V was acting like Vergil?

>>16237917

At least he's cool. Can't really say that for Xehanut

>>16238041

He fucking thanked Nero once resurrected which seemed like a bit of a change even if minor enough to keep him as the awesome fucker we all fucking enjoy he even seemed to legitimately not want to fight Nero and told him to stand down instead of just crushing him I'd say that's SOME kind of growth. Heck he even seemed to show a sort of new dynamic with Dante with the "straight man" to dante's "pizza lovin, stylin demonslayer hobo fun guy" and in a far less cold manner. I cannot express enough how much I loved that last bonus scene, I laughed legitimately

>>16238046

His name being V was the biggest fucking giveaway. That and listening to some of his spoken lines during gameplay they're pretty comparative to the tone Vergil says shit in 3/4. That and V's reaction when Proto Angelo is introduced, V controlling Griffon Shadow and Nightmare from 1, where Vergil was an enemy in the guise of Nelo Angelo. It wasn't super obvious in the beginning of the game but further in it became more apparent.

>>16238041

With the way it worked out I'm pretty sure that Vergil wanted to split in two so that his Demon half could accrue a shitload of power, then one all of the power was obtained Urizen and V would combine back into Vergil's ideal form. I don't know if Urizen was cognizant of it after the split seeing as how the guy couldn't even remember his childhood, but I'm 100% sure that V's lines about wanting to fix his mistake and stop Urizen was a total load of bullshit, just look at the smirk on his face he had when he convinced Nero to take him to Urizen.

>>16238057

I like how he just sits in the van and glares at Dante while mocking him with a slow clap.

>>16238065

When you do the DMC1 "guts and honor" taunt against vergil he actually reacts to it by taunting back, thanking you and offering you a reward for the compliment… a reward of death.

>>16238062

That damn scene, it's forever etched as my number 1 devil may cry moment of all time now, nothing will top that for me. Though Nero's dialogue with him in fight is damn fucking great too

>>16238065

I love the "Son, what the fuck are you doing. Why aren't you seeking MORE POWER" gestures and looks he kinda gives to Nero who's sitting there like a dope examining his devil breaker, personally.

>>16238080

Around release date the amount of counterpush was insane. I understand antishill dogpiling and hurt feelings from how terrible dmcdmc was but it was nuts. There are valid criticisms of this game being the aesthetics and tone but the gameplay is good, at least to my eyes. I'm not donguri and I can't constantly SSStylebeast but I had a good time. Hell if you look at the /vg/ thread it reads like a bunch of violent paranoid schizophrenics beating on someone who is telling them there isn't a boogeyman living in their closet.

>>16238110

There was a complain that Cerberus took too long to beat. After upgrading Dantes moveset I kicked his ass fairly quickly. They gotta remember that DMC is a game that you play more than just one time and not just drop it after one playthrough.

I myself was disappointed when I finished the game but replaying it on Son of Sparda I'm enjoying it a lot more now.

>>16238130

Cerberus was the casual filter in DMC3 and I find it hilariously tongue in cheek that they made him one of the penultimate bosses this time around and somehow he's still pissing people off.

His theme also goes hard as fuck and I so wasn't expecting a ravecore boss track in this game but there it was.

>>16238170

>By the end of the Sons of Sparda arc I thought that both Dante and Vergil were both going to find out what happened to their dad Sparda and get their revenge on Mundus together, but nah, it was just Vergil being Vergil again.

Yeah like I said kind of disappointing. Makes me thing DMC6 is going to be Nero, Trish and Lady going toe-to-toe with big man Mundus though since especially after 5 there must be one hell of a power vacuum in the demon world.

>Reminder Mundus never died and we never saw or heard how or if Sparda died either truth be told.

>Reminder Dante told Mundus to say hi to his son for him as he sealed him (a nephew's just as good right?)

>>16238166

I liked the battle music for V. Those drums with the base up sound oh so cool

>>16238188

I learned to like the vocals for Subhuman but I can't learn to like the vocals in Crimson Cloud. Luckily you can replace his theme with Nelo Angelo's theme.

>>16238188

Have to admit, this song grew on me so much after I initially didn't take to it. Devil trigger while good is sort of wearing on me though cos of probably overexposure to it.

>>16238130

Son of Sparda is always the "Normal Mode" because it's really the only game mode where you have to start being a little more tactical(can't just crazy on everything and kill it fast) you actually kind of have to learn how to do some pretty "advanced" juggles which is just jump cancelling just so you can get some S ratings on levels. DMD is the real "Hard Mode" where the game becomes what journalists refer to as "The souls experience." If you ever played 3 on "Very hard" mode is the equivalent of DMD in 4 and 5 and is probably one of the most frustrating yet addictive games. Dante must die is "very hard" now. Human mode is practically worthless to play unless you are experimenting with bosses(which I think you can do in training mode but I wouldn't know because honestly I haven't touched training mode)

>>16238241

Nope, no bosses in the Void. I did use it to train on Fury timing, though, because I wanted those sick-ass parries.

>>16238245

fuck man I really was hoping they would have bosses in training mode so when I play through DMD I can actually train on some of these fucks and optimize my strategies and combos because after DMC3 they started adding much more weird shit you can do to bosses that isn't really obvious at first(example using the buster arm on Angelo Credo in 4 to throw his own lance into his chest and stun him)

>>16217687

DMC1>DMC2>DMC3 SE>DMC4 SE> DMC5

Noob order

>>16238254

2 is no longer skippable? How the times have changed.

>>16238250

About the only shit I've discovered is that Artemis's DT Buster can be Exceeded throughout. I'm sure there's other things with the other bosses (I know someone mentioned that you can Buster Vergil's flying charge) but frankly those moments are your reward for competence and experimentation within the moment.

>>16237674

I cannot concieve or fathom why anyone would think 1 was the best in the series.

>>16238271

That says it's 2nd best.

>>16238271

They are either contrarian fags or atmosphere fags. Anyone else saying DMC1 or 2 is the best in series is probably not referring to the gameplay.

>>16238024

>Urizen was totally demonic and as such had no qualms about doing something like that

Uh, vergil's demon side comes from Sparda, who was a pretty cool guy that doesn't affraid of anything

>>16238287

Doesn't mean said demonic side can't be a total prick. Besides it seems all of the soul of Sparda that flows through both sons Dante mentions in DMC3 is completely absent in Urizen, it's all in V from the information provided in 5

>>16237674

>I would love 4 to death if it wasn't blatantly unfinished. The combat may be fantastic but the content is nonexistent.

When they made 4 it seems like they wrote like half a script that was total shit and would be rejected by any short story or movie studio and just said "Hey umm let's just run with this" You can tell how unfinished the game is by how little Kyrie or Angelo Credo have to say/do in the game. The sparda cult was such a dumb pointless centering a game around that was retarded. DMC4 just has god tier gameplay to compensate for the sheer laziness going on in that game.

>>16238287

Sparda was pretty much just an uncle tom with goku power levels so it's not surprising that an uncle tom can birth a malcom x nigger.

>>16238271

It's really good, but not better than 3 overall.

Stull the best of the two atmosphere-wise if you ask me, and it has Kamiya's seal of "long enough in the first run, easy to blaze around the subsequent runs, encourages you to git gud for maximum score, and has the obligatory shitty shooty shooty arcadey segment"

I really enjoy the game, but I really dig every of the guy's games that follows the formula, like Viewtiful Joe, so.

>>16238294

Yea the flow of DMC5 is pretty fucking perfect. People who play dmc games and stop playing them after beating normal or the pointless easy modes are missing the experience. The point of the game is literally just "Get as crazy as humanly possible until your fingers break off"

>>16238281

I have a ton of fond memories for DMC1. I got it as a kid and played the shit out of it, and it has some of my favorite enemy designs. It also has the worst camera angle bullshit out of all of them and plays like a wet turd. I don't mind replaying it now and then because I love it but just lacking a real lockon would make it impossible to rank number 1.

>>16238287

Urizen also had no memories to back him up as a fleshed out individual. All he has to go on is pure instinct and the core drive of "Obtain Power". Either way Vergil shouldn't get off scot free, especially if his plan the entire time was to split in two in order to have Urizen root himself into the tree to become powerful enough to obtain the fruit, and then reunite V and Urizen in order to recombine into Vergil, but only with an immense power boost from the fruit.

Either way you could say that Vergil sealing himself in the underworld with Dante to save the human world is a form of self punishment/redemption.

>>16238080

If it was momentary, Dante and him would not have the more friendly rivalry they have in the credits. Nero managing to kick his ass gave him an excuse to act on the realization that he fucked up badly in his pursuit of power. Otherwise, he has too much pride to actually back down from it after how far he went. Dante goes along with it because he never wanted to kill his brother in the first place. Hell, I'd say that his time as V also made him a bit softer on that end too, given that he doesn't act on the opportunity to stab Dante with the Sparda.

That and probably to prevent the same thing from happening to Vergil again.

>>16238109

Nero does obsess over power, but it is much more situational compared to his dad. He spends much of this game obsessing over the power he lost with the loss of his arm. Nico even makes a joke in the comment on the devil trigger form Nero about how his new arms are an expression of his obsession with arms and power. Apparently, Nero is of the camp that believes more = better, given that he sort of has four arms now.

Wasn't there something special about Kyrie that made her important in DMC4 besides Nero's relationship with her? I can't remember what it was.

>>16238176

Dante and Vergil will probably show up, but them being sealed in the Underwold gives them an excuse to introduce them late in the game.

>>16238323

>DMC6, Mundus is returning to fuck shit up, Nero can't get a hold of Dante or Vergil, hasn't heard from them since the end of DMC5.

>Late in the game, Nero encounters Nelo Angelo.

>A second Angelo steps out from behind him.

>>16238426

What happens next?

>>16238440

No clue, I just found these as is with no context given.

>>16238452

Playable vergil is slightly more than rumored at this point.

>>16238426

Possible campaign mode?

>>16238455

What weapons would he have though? I'd like to think Itsuno would just go "Fuck canon" and give Vergil all his previous toys but if not then we're looking at a Vergil that only has Yamato. Maybe he can even use a summoned sword as his Force Edge stand in too.

>>16238291

>The sparda cult was such a dumb pointless centering a game around that was retarded

Huh, on the wiki it said that

>the role of The Savior in the game is an allusion to "The False Prophet" in the book of Revelations. Such similarities are their angelic appearance, yet demonic in nature. Moreover, the propaganda of Sanctus in deceiving the people of Fortuna, parallels the False Prophet's agenda to deceive people by means of fake "miracles".

I don't know if that's true or not, but it sounds ineresting.

>Wasn't there something special about Kyrie that made her important in DMC4 besides Nero's relationship with her? I can't remember what it was.

Someone posted some concept art of a female saviour boss. Maybe she was originally intended to turn into it?

>>16238457

>New Yamato moveset

>Beowulf

>Force Edge

>Sin DT

>Doppelganger

>Yamato yourself to become V or Urizen, so V's usual stuff as well as Urizen's shield and attacks

>>16238299

V is kind of innocent, though. In the month's interim since the prologue, V spent all that time trying to prevent people from dying in Red Grave City due to the Qliphoth spreading.

So, I don't remember anything hinting that V had planned it out all from the beginning, especially since his expression was of pure horror at his birth. I think it was more of a drive he just had; like he said to Urizen. "While thy branches mix with mine, ⁠And our roots together join."

Their beginning and their end were the same, since they were both born from Vergil and ended as Vergil again, but neither really is Vergil. And its debatable whether Vergil knew what would happen after he divided himself, and how much responsibility he really bears since he was literally falling apart anyhow.

>>16217687

>pirate

Good

>>16238339

Something similar happens in a DMC1 sequel novel:

https://devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/Devil_May_Cry_Volume_2

It explains his change in demeanor in Devil May Cry 2.

>>16238426

Yeah, they were also able to hack in Vergil in early missions via cheat engine using his moveset from the Epilogue.

>>16238657

>Volume 2

Beryl was too good for that story if she was in the games she'd give Lady a run for her money as best girl.

>>16237821

This is them sending their golem to memory hole DmC, which mind I remind you, is about a villain that tries to control the world with usury and debt and taking a jab at neocon media.

>>16245009

There are slight balance differences between versions, like NTSC's normal is enemies are like 25% stronger then NTSC-J. PAL is 50FPS which actually slows down the game.

The HD collection for the most part is a perfectly fine port, the only issues are some slight graphical issues only an autist would notice.

If you care that much then emulating PS2 would be better, but if you end up getting the HD collection I don't think you'll notice, unless things were side by side.

>>16244939

>It’s not open world, and there are no outposts or incidental world quests to pick up. There’s no crafting system, or the dozens and dozens of loot types that would feed it. There are meaningless corridors filled with meaningless rooms where enemies spawn in waves. There are no major puzzles, and the narrative is entirely linear—it doesn’t even fork. It’s a mission-based character action game that comes in well under 20 hours of playtime.

My respect for gaming journalism goes a little bit lower every time I read an article

>>16245091

Currently that's not a thing without mods, but April 1st there is the free Bloody Palace update which is a mode where you fight waves of enemies and all the bosses with any character you want.

>>16244939

>by Dia Lacina

So, it's either a woman or a >woman, I'd say probably the latter.

>>16245109

Damn. I'd like to play V on some other missions. Also the guy who did that video is absolutely fucking terrible with V and would do better literally button mashing.

>>16245262

They look practically identical though.

>>16238271

And why do you prefer three?

>more shit enemies than good ones: the spiders, the angels (worst ones out), the chess pieces, the mana squids, the ones that spawn enemies, the explosive ones, the turrets, most enemies have only one specific strategy to kill them

<only one bad enemy in DMC1, the nobodies, and even then you can one shot them with the inferno and move on, almost all enemies have secret moves and a secret way to defeat them

>many crappy bosses (and forcing you to fight most of them again near the end of the game): doppleganger, the chess king and queen, that centipede, and that god awful blob as the final boss (even though DMC2 got shat on for the same concept)

<less variety in bosses but all of them are excellent, their moveset increases with difficulty forcing you to change strategy, the end boss is amazing

>secret missions are better but the game doesn't reward you for completing them all, all you get is blue orbs, they're also less hidden

<you get both blue orbs and the beagle of time

>weird story (even worse than DMC2 I would say)

>less hidden items scattered around the world, items are useless if you want SS

>worse ranking system, in DMC1 if you did good you got an S, if you did excellent you got a special bonus, ranking leniency added extra strategy as people would find different parts easier so it doesn't force the same sort of cheesy play style onto everyone

>washed out visuals, everything looks bland

>doesn't let you fly for more than three seconds unless you're playing as super Dante (and even then it's finicky)

>less devil trigger variety, it's basically do more damage mode

DMC3 has good combat but since you're fighting shit enemies 90% of the time you can't fully enjoy it, it's still a good game but it's not perfect like DMC1

I kind of don't want to get into DMC because DMC fans are annoying, but I might just be hurting myself there.

>>16247805

>Not liking things because you find the fanbase obnoxius.

Don't be a faggot Anon, don't let shit like that stop you for trying out new videogames.

>>16245069

He is talking about the post credit cutscene.

>>16247789

I didn't mean to say that I myself thought DMC1 was objectively the best, just that I feel it's still just as great as the other games, and that I think combo players are the only ones who have any merit when they say which game is the best to them.

But your also missing my point, it's not that I can disable moves, I do like to try and use as much as I can in other DMC games, but it's the fact that ALL of DMC1's moves are extremely useful.

and I also think all of DMC1's bosses are great, once you master them, Mundus 2 inparticular I think is the most fun boss in the series.

>>16247789

I still elevate DMC4 over 3 on account of the combat mechanics actually being just a bit superior. Plus I find the grey esthetics of the Temen-ni-gru to be boarding and prefer exploring the castles in DMC1 and DMC4. However DMC3 does get bonus points for being the lest easy game in the series. The way the game challenges you alone is why I understand many still see it as the best.

>got my friend to play DMC5

>he loves it

>says he wants to S rank DMD

>grinding through SoS so he can get to the real game

<complaining about enemies like Fury being "bullshit"

<refuses to learn a single air combo besides mashing attack

<can already tell he doesn't have the motivation to actually S rank DMD

<now he's telling me I should play Dark Souls

<tells me I should buy Sekiro

<says "maybe I'll play Bloody Palace if I'm not playing Sekiro"

fucking Dark Souls ruined so many people as to what real difficulty is in video games.

>>16249453

Just tell him to use Dr. Faust and reel air enemies in.

>>16249375

The combat is great but after I played the game a few times I just couldn't anymore. Some parts have way too much walking, all the reused areas, the dice mini game with Nero. I quickly grew bored of it. Bloody palace is great even though a couple of the enemies suck.

Also is there any vid of someone beating DMD Urizen with Nero in mission 8? I can't seem to find anything. Only for the prologue which is considerably easier.

>>16249528

Why should I play Dark Souls when only Demon Souls has Maiden in Black?

>>16249641

you should play both

>>16249632

some anon posted one the other day. This isn't the one anon posted but its possible.

>>16249708

Actually anon That's the one I posted, But that's was my try on Human mode just to see if beating the boss was actually possible, I haven't tried on DMD just yet.

>>16249799

although I did learn that Helter Skelter does it's job, and works great on Urizens Crystal so I'm sure that will make things allot easier. the problem is he will likely be able to almost one shot me, So i'll have to get even better at dodging.

>>16249708

You've failed to answer my question. Why should I play Dark Souls when it doesn't have Maiden in Black?

Any news about some mods?

>>16249908

People have already made it so any character can be in any mission, and there is a gimped but playable Vergil.

>>16249847

because its holistically better then Demon's Souls

there is girl power sticker in van.

dont have screenshot since I dont know how to get to that camera angle.

>>16250242

Waifus make everything worse

>>16218165

>lackluster boss fights

People say this about 4 but I've never agreed with it. I'd much, much rather fight Viper and Dagon/Bael than pretty much any boss from 3 apart from Vergil and Agni & Rudra, and those were my two personal least favourites apart from The Saviour. The rest of 4's bosses are all decent at worst imo. I still think 3 is overall a better game than 4, but I don't think the quality gap between them is anywhere near as large as people often say it is.

5 is pretty good in this regard I think. The only enemies/bosses I thought were kind of a pain to fight are the Fury and Malphas. Gilgamesh isn't amazing either but I thought it was inoffensive.

>>16250525

>waifus

>plural

spot the newfag

>>16250525

Shit, forced waifus

>>16250684

I have to downscale the game from 1080p to 780p just to break even

>>16251250

Vergil wasn't the series's running villain

Does the games performance tank for anyone else during the Vergil boss fight? Everything else in the game runs smoothly enough for me. My framerate drops to the 40s fighting him.

>>16251250

>>16249375

>I still elevate DMC4 over 3 on account of the combat mechanics actually being just a bit superior. Plus I find the grey esthetics of the Temen-ni-gru to be boarding and prefer exploring the castles in DMC1 and DMC4. However DMC3 does get bonus points for being the lest easy game in the series. The way the game challenges you alone is why I understand many still see it as the best.

I'm trying and failing to sit through DMC4, I feel exactly the opposite, I want my biblical/Gehenna DMC3 back, instead of this generic unity store assets feeling levels with no aesthetic theme whatsoever.

And I can't sit through Nero, I have to go back to DMC3, it's like I'm missing 3/4 of my moves, and they've all been replaced by a boring pull grab.

I still need to play DMC1, based on the pattern so far it should be the best, but i'm scared there'll be a bunch of bizarre quality of life stuff missing that I've taken for granted.

>>16251669

>Playing a series out of order

You're only making things worse for yourself. You can't appreciate the evolution of the series and genre if you're playing the later ones first.

>>16251657

>>16251250

My autistic fanboy theory is that DMC6 will be Nero's Mallet Island. He'll go to some place with Nico, maybe even Lady and Trish as well. Mundus is back and trying to get strong again. Nero gets new weapons and guns to get fleshed out. About halfway through the game, Vergil shows up, returning from the Underworld. Vergil does some plot exposition about Mundus being separated and trying to get Vergil's Yamato to reach full power. You play as Vergil for a good little bit and then you'd switch to Dante to play around in Hell.

Final fight is a segmented level of Dante in Hell and Nero and Vergil in the human world, fighting a piece of Mundus each, ending with some big three man Jackpot type deal. Or perhaps Vergil and Nero only, having a father/son moment, switching swords like how Dante and Vergil did in DMC3. Game ends with a big family reunion, maybe even something like Nero telling Vergil he's going to be a grandfather. NG+ unlocks all missions for all characters, so you can really get your Dante and Vergil fix. Nero gets the Yamato back as a weapon, Vergil can get the Red Queen or I was thinking the Red Queen Yamato. Exceeding Judgement Cuts.

>>16252152

One of the bosses should know how to jump cancil

>>16252541

So, he says his favorite was the reboot, then he said he just liked it, now he hates it and he was going to leave Capcom because of it? fuck me, can this cunt make up his mind about it like the rest of us did years ago?

>>16252567

Perhaps he just liked parts of it, there are a few good parts of DmC and the translation omitted that.

>>16252572

This is also true as well as the Japanese custom of politeness.

>>16252758

>(((Goldstein)))

>>16252567

Thing is, Itsuno never say he hates it himself. This is a interview with Langdom >>16252541. What it looks like is that Itsuno himself couldn't speak badly of the game for PR reasons, but seems Langdom is free to say whatever he wants. It could also be a PR stunt to prop up DMC5 even more, who knows.

>>16252705

>>16252758

>>16252778

it's been known for a while that Itsuno basically had to go over to were Ninja Theory was, Saw everything was fucked, and had to try and unfuck everything, It was basically DMC2 all over again only DMC2 actually sold copies.

maybe he appreciated the fact that Ninja Theory were able to do something entirely different with the series, or maybe not, but odds are the things that were in DmC that were brought over to DMC5 were likely Itsuno's ideas to begin with.

Pretty much the only thing that can be proven to have been Ninja Theory's was the slow mo camera at the end of fights since that was in Enslaved first.

Does anyone know how to get a PS4 controller to work with DMC3SE on the PS3? It works on the game select menu but won't work when I select the game.

>>16252936

>>16252912

>>16252881

Donte was always just Nero, but without anything that makes Nero likable.

Both in personality and gameplay, Donte is dumbed down and has nothing to make up for it, Nero at least Has Red queen with it's on unique style of play, and now he has Devil Breakers.

>>16252937

Why didn't you just get the HD collection on PC?

>>16253054

I got the HD collection years ago for PS3 and am just playing it again. I could get it on PC but didn't want to bother since I have this copy of it.

>>16238426

>Guys, is this legit?

Considering bloody palace is on its way and it lets you fight every boss in the game with different characters. Yes.

Though I wonder if the devs are currently trying to balance all the bosses for each character as >>16238657 shows V would have a hard time against Vergil since his pets would keep dying to his attacks.

>>16252881

>I am glad Donte happened as some of his personality traits and aesthetics where folded into Nero during DMC5's development allowing Nero to become his own character and not just blue Dante

Both Nero and Donte are supposed to be a delinquent punks, except with Donte the devs turned the dial up to 11 making him an unlikable prick with no redeeming qualities.

>>16253253

Donte is some retarded head canon made real. Nero is your standard kid who grew up with no dad to show him how to act properly so he acts edgy in some self defense method.

>>16253505

Why did he choose to not do it until he was 30?

He wasnt like that in 4.

>>16253299

He even has a unique finish animation

>>16253852

The answer to Vs pets dying too quickly is to constantly summon/unsummon nightmare. Summoning nightmare instantly revives both pets AND his summon animation usually does more damage than his attacks anyway, so if you get the summon, one attack, then unsummon you are pretty much getting peak Nightmare DPS . If you go full ham with Griffon and Shadow you can build back the DT gauge off of attacks in between summoning Nightmare so you never really run out either. Of course once you've upgraded Vim just standing near the corpses revives them pretty quick anyway.

V is stupidly easy. I absolutely suck at this game, never played the other DMCs, and I can SSS style with V just by fucking button mashing. Hold RB, spam back and forth on the stick to try and trigger those attacks, and spam X+Y to constantly attack, and spam LB to summon/Unsummon nightmare. Basically just spam everything.

>>16267405

I see now why people were talking about giving Virgil Dante's hair.

>>16267405

fuck off with these cuckchan webms

Niggers

>>16268344

I haven't touched the games in a very long time, but from I hear

>1 Good

>2 Bad

>3 Great

>4 Good, but rushed so not great

>5 Great

>>16268312

Bullshit since it directly follows up on both.

>>16238506

>Someone posted some concept art of a female saviour boss. Maybe she was originally intended to turn into it?

yes it seems that in the original plot of DMC4 kyrie was suppoesed to be the saviour boss, and it seems the pope and the stature never existed, i dont know about the order of the sword thought.

>>16268441

A normalfag I know says he heard this shit from someone at GayStop.

>>16267405

>second webm

wait what?

>>16268504

The only thing DMC5 has done to canon was switch DMC4 and 2's placement in the timeline.

Now it's 3, 1, anime, 2, 4, 5

The only people who should be confused are those few and far between retards that somehow thought DmC was a prequel to DMC3, (which I always find hilarious since the entirety of DMC1 directly contradicts everything about DmC)

>>16268344

The Main appeal of Devil May Cry is it's replayablity, if you play a DMC game only once your not really doing it right, since the first playthough is simply the tutorial and the real meat of the game starts on the harder Difficulty modes which swap up enemy placements and such.

>stringing together combos is cool but ultimately meaningless

Well the hole point is to look and feel cool, anyone can just mash their way though the game, but the Style meter and end mission rankings are there to encourage you to change things up and improve your gameplay, and the system's in place are actually made in a way that Showing off and playing effectively go hand in had.

There usually comes a point when on the Hardest difficulty a certainty boss will completely kick your ass, but you will try again and again, improving a little bit every time, until eventually you final beat and master the fight, and knowing how far you came and how much better you now are is an extremely rewarding feeling.

That being said DMC3 is pretty much still the strongest game in the series, DMC 4 and 5 have allot of content when it comes to characters and move list, but DMC3 benefits from it's focus, the game is built around

just Dante so it has the smoothest progression, were as DMC 4 and 5 have to juggle between playing as different characters.

>>16268720

thanks for the answer.

aside from the style points, i dont really feel progression in the game. maybe i have to try it on harder difficulties.

i played 5 and felt like the combat system was pretty shallow. 1 attack button, a special "hand" button (???), a dash button, and a jump button.

i found myself doing the same combo, then dashing/jumping away from attacks, then repeating.

do i unlock more combos later?

if i remember correctly, dmc1 gave me pretty much the entire moveset from the begining, only adding utility, specials, and niche stuff. but i could be wrong.

>>16253852

>felt the need to stop the fight for 30 seconds to show off his MLP mod

Typical clopper.

>>16268936

oh, ok. i dont remember unlocking basic combos in dmc1. maybe i'll add this to my backlog and try it pending the whole censorship issue which i still dont understand.

not to nitpick, but how did the player in that webm get a SSS rating? he seemed to do the same combo atleast 6 times. slash slash jump slash slam.

>>16268971

That player was me, but basically that was the mode on DMC4 that spawn a huge number of enemies, it's easy to get to SSS rank when you bunch 3 or more enemies together and hit them all at once. The game also gives you a decent bonus for using Exceed since using it constantly is trickier to pull off

Also the Censorship it's just a lens flare over a girls naked ass for 2 seconds in 2 different scenes, I honestly didn't notice nor care about it, but everyone else seemed to think it was worth getting up in arms about.

>>16269059

i dont support censorship.

my PC right now is incapable of playing dmc5 at a playable framerate so im forced to get the ps4 version if i was to play it, and theirs is further censored.

did they ever figure out whats censored and what isnt? last i heard ps4 has 2 scenes censored via lens flare, everything else has only 1 censored scene, but on PC you can remove lens flare effects effectively removing the censorship. but people kept bringing conflicting information to the table making the whole mess very confusing

my only other issue with the game is the girl is a complete butterface

>>16269100

just play 3 and 4, 5 isn't going anywhere.

>>16268344

blah blah blah play Dante at higher difficulties.

Mashing the same button will not work as well as it did at whatever is under DMD.

>>16269975

Isn't there a longer video where he hits the ceiling?

>>16267405

>stage 101

what

>>16269986

>tfw found that out by accident

I fucking love this game. I recently S ranked all of Son of Sparda and holy shit I don't think I'll be able to pull it off on DMD

>>16238188

I can't gte it out of my head either, i love it

I feel like I'm worse at this game then I was at DMC4

bump

Going through SoS, my main complaint is that Nero's Wire Snatch and buster-themed devil breaker are now completely useless with his arm grown back. Why do I now have two buttons that do the exact same thing (pull an enemy towards me)? It just seems like a huge oversight given how polished every other aspects of character movesets are.

>>16280763

The Buster Arm Breaker actually does significantly more damage then the Devil Bringer. A believe a Standard Buster from the Breaker does more damage then a DT'd Bringer Buster, with obviously the Breakage doing the most damage.

The Devil Bringer is there so you always have the utility of the Buster, but if your looking to actually kill enemies faster then you're still going to want the Buster Arm

How is wire snatch useless? It's just his devil bringer grapple from DMC4, NG or NG+. It doesn't change.

>>16280763

>>16280796

Thinking about it having the two moves while they function the same doesn't make one useless, since you can Snatch with the Bringer while charging a Brakeage, or you can Wire Snatch while holding an 1 or 2 enemies with the Bringer

>>16219517

>vanquish not #1

KYS

>>16280808

Wait you can wire snatch while holding dudes with the bringer?

I need to see some video proof of this that's kinda insane.

>>16281004

Damn and here I thought the wire snatch and buster arm were redudant. Good on Itsuno for giving Nero's full moveset some legit utility.

I still wish that the Breakers weren't a disposable resource and you could freely switch between them ala Dante's styles but oh well. Having your combo options be a finite resource just kinda sucks ya know?

>>16281004

Holy shit what the fuck how did you have a stand come out to fight for you for a sec and how do you hold multiple enemies at one?

I though all Nero can do without his DT was to grab enemies one at a time????

>>16281138

It's called a skill list, it's this revolutionary thing the game has, you use it to see what abilities you capable of.

But to answer you seriously, When in DT Nero's Hold ability works on 2 enemies at once, your just able to keep holding them when out of DT.

As for Ghost Punch's are called Bringer Knuckle, it basically works the exact same way Exceed does only for the Devil Bringer button, immediately after attacking you hit bringer.

but the fact you will perform a Buster if your timing is off makes it harder to do, tho Some animations like how I was holding Streak makes it so you can punch as much as you like.

When in DT the two arms punch at the same time.

>>16280763

The Buster Arm is a lot stronger than his regular devil arm. If you use Devil Trigger plus a fully charged Buster Arm you will 1-hit Furies and Proto Angelo enemies.

>>16281370

In DMD difficulty I must add

Nico really shouldn't give me as much of a boner as she does

Just wondering, between ps3 and PC, hich version of the DMC HD collection is best?

>>16282871

Haven't played it on anything else but I can say that the PC version is extremely good

>>16281004

How do you hold enemies in place with the buster arm

>>16281341

Please cut me some slack.

Out of all of the gameplay footage ive seen both before and after the game came out I have never seen anybody do what you did in that video, not even veteran DMC players.

I unlocked all the skills for all the characters with the exception of their EX taunts but I never had gotten a single hint about the shit that you've pulled off.

>>16282876

The same way you did in DMC4, you Buster and then hold the button you need the Bringer

>>16282969

Well it was mostly a joke, I didn't intend to be that harsh, If I really wanted to be a dick, I wouldn't have answered your question seriously.

It's just literally the first thing I did when I beat the game was go into the Skill list and see how much cool stuff the Devil Bringer actually had.

I just I'm always seeing questions like the one I literally just replied to, which can be solved by just looking at the Skill list, or the whole reason I made that webm for this anon here >>16280894 was to show something that he could have found out by trying himself.

The Devil Bringer Tutorial during the credits only shows up for like 10 seconds and is hard to absorb in the little time it's shown so I guess I assumed everyone would have thought to look at the skill list.

>>16282871

PC has the Style Switcher mod so your gonna want that in the long run.

>>16280812

vanquish is sorta shit tbqh

>>16282871

Different but similar question:

Which version of DMC3SE is better on PC? Standalone DMC3SE or the one that is bundled in the HD Collection? I have an ingrained fear of HD collections/versions fucking up minute important details.

>>16283085

The Standalone DMC3SE is garbage and only becomes decent when used with the Style Switcher mod, which fixes most of it's problems, but can still be a pain like getting a controller to work properly.

The HD collection's DMC3 actually works properly, but when it comes to the Minute details, DMC1 has some issues due to the fact that DMC1 didn't have a complete version saved, so they had to get all of the pieces of DMC1 and put it back together again. for the most part everything is in proper order Gameplay wise it's fine, but if you see the videos that comb though the game detail by detail comparing it to DMC1 on PS2 you can see it's has some graphical issues here or there.

DMC3 doesn't have anything like that.

>>16283085

The original special edition of DMC3 on Steam is complete dogshit. It's a port from 2005 and IIRC it doesn't even have proper gamepad or mouse support. Get the HD version.

>>16283139

The HD collection doesn't have mouse support either, but I guess that would be because DMC1 and 2 have zero camera control and 3's is only sometimes, so using a mouse would have no benefit vs using the keyboard for more inputs, that and they were too lazy to let you bind the mouse.

DMC4 has no mouse support either, only DmC and DMC5 have Mouse support, due to the fact they actually have a free camera to control.

People refuse to put up with fix camera nowadays, despite the fact that a fixed camera will always make areas in a game more memorable since a game gets cool cinematography that way.

>>16283139

Thanks.

>>16283161

The one big issue with fixed camera games is that they fuck with your walk direction. I'm not a baby so I can put up with it, but who actually enjoys holding left to walk into the next room, and then the camera pulls a 180 on transition causing you to walk back into the room you came from? It's poor design. The camera angles look great, but the people who design the angles should make them congruent directionally from where they transition from.

Note: It has been a couple years sense I've played DMC4, and a really long time since I played DMC1 as a child. I don't remember if DMC games have this issue, but I assume/remember them having it because a lot of games with directed camera do. If I'm remembering wrong, pls no bulli

>>16280812

Vanquish has no content.

>>16283173

DMC does it so if you hold your direction you keep moving that way when the camera angle changes, until you change your direction. this isn't really something that should stump anyone for longer then a level or two, yet I hear people struggle with it constantly, and I just can't relate.

>>16283180

I know what you're talking about, and I really think of it as a bandaid. If this was a game that was played exclusively on keyboard or Dpad the continued until you changed direction would work perfectly, but playing with controller stick if you move your analog a little bit it'll throw your direction. It doesn't make the games unplayable, I beat DMC1 as a little kid. I just think at the very least there should be hard direction cuts with the camera that will completely turn you around. If you're going to fuck up my at least have the new camera angle point me towards any direction other than the door I just came from.

What is the worst in my opinion is during fights in really big rooms that have multiple camera angles and no obvious boundaries where the camera will cut.

And again, they don't ruin the game by any means. It's just something that can become annoying until you fully adjust to it.

Side questions: Playing DMC5 SoS Mission 8, I think this is the first time I've fought a Fury with Nero. What's my best course of action here? With Dante it's easy to parry with Cerberus or Royal Guard it but I feel kinda lost with Nero.

What's the best breaker setup to go into Urizen round 2 with? I wasn't able to Srank this mission on Devil Hunter and I feel that it's because I was getting hit too much/wasn't able to survive long enough during the boss fight.

>>16283253

The best part is even without the Donte Palette swap or the easter egg here or there you can find, DMC5 does acknowledge DmC, only it does so though it's gameplay mechanics, and a journalist will never pick up on that.

>>16283313

I also thought that Nero was Donte.

>>16219517

DMC3 > DMC5 (I admit this is possible recency bias) > MGR >> DMC4 = DMC1 >>> DMC2 (Was pretty casual but I sort of feel like maybe the criticism was a little overblown, but then again if the reception was positive I doubt 3 would exist) >>>> God of War 3 (This one was sort of fun and pretty outrageous but I don't think the other ones even deserve a mention) >>>>>>>> DmC

t. someone who played the DMC series for the first time within the past month and doesn't play these kinds of games often. I really liked it though, should I play Bayonetta?

>>16283954

I couldn't get into Bayonetta because her launcher was a combo move and not a combo starter. Fucked me up because in DMC I'd often use the launcher to dodge charging enemies and keep my combos going at the same time. Way harder to do that with Bayonetta's moveset.

>>16284015

I'm a weirdo that tends to not play through games fully right away. For example I might play mission 1 and 2, take a break come back the next day and then replay play missions 1, 2 and then proceed to mission 3; then take another break; come back and play 1,2,3 and 4 etc. I even do this with games like Mario brothers. The only games I don't do this with are RPG's and TRPG's. But any level or mission based games I tend to try and try and master the early levels before I move onto harder levels. Which means It might take me a very long time to finish a video game. I even did this with replays of Dark Souls often restarting after Anor Londo.

TL;DR: I liked DMC4 because I don't really care if it seems "unfinished" because the first half is 10/10 and the second half has Dante so its just the first Half but better. For me more of the same is fine as long as it's fun.

>>16283921

Bayonetta is great but the dodge offset/holding down the attack buttons for secondary fire while dodging is a bit odd to get accustomed to, also the QTE's in Bayo1 is not too much fun. Also the style meter is a bit odd to understand when in the heat of battle so getting pure platinum is frustrating. But with all its flaws its still probably my favorite Kamiya game. DMC3 and 4 is more initiative in regards to how combat works.

>DmC is the worst even under GoW* (series)

I'm going to have to disagree. Maybe if you are focusing on the story sure its trashy, but mechanically from a game play perspective DmC is more competent than people like to admit, far better then GoW and DMC2. Sure its not as polished as a true DMC game but I still find it comfy to play as long as I skip the cutscenes. GoW on the other hand is wave after wave of the same boring button mashing encounters and even the bosses aren't as interesting.

>>16284087

>>16284063

but every single traditional DMC game has you backtrack though the levels and replay ever boss 3 times. The second Phantom fight is optional that trend to recycled content was true even in the first game. Its just more blatant in 4.

As an aside, I sorta wish DMC never abandoned the Metroid aspects of the level structures. I know trying to find the right path forward gets in the way of the action but I honestly find that brand of gated exploration comfy.

>>16284067

A big part of why I liked GoW 3 at all was because of how absurd it was. Shit got really crazy in that game and the gameplay was the best that that particular series had seen, as low of a bar as that may be. I would probably put the rest of that series under DmC for what that's worth.

>>16284063

I'm pretty sure DMC3 threw the same boss at you cause of budget reasons and the fact DMC1 does the same thing.

>>16284111

In defense of DMC1 though, both the bosses and the environment you fight them in change a bit spicing things up. Especially when you have to fight Nightmare in the dark.

Say what you want about DmC, but you gotta admit that this battle was one the best in the whole franchise.

>>16284184

It just looks like the Jester fight

>>16284215

try this video instead

>>16283921

I'm not a huge cuhrayzee game player either, but I don't think the criticism of DMC2 is overblown at all. The fucking game just sucks. I just tried to play through it again with Lucia today and can't find any motivation to continue. The enemies are brain dead, the music is unmemorable, to controls feel like shit, the story is boring as hell, the levels are empty. There is just nothing good about the game. Even just comparing it against DMC1 it's a huge pile of shit.

>>16267405

Wait is the first webm a new taunt? How do you do it?

>>16284184

Ill give you that. That's the only real memory I have of that game, what whole level was pretty cool.

>>16284215

It's so bad I never knew until I beat DMC5 a few times. Every swing look so deliberate and isolated, completely lacking in any fluidity.

Has there been a decensor for the pc version yet?

>>16284821

The PC version isn't censored. The claim that is had a lens flare on Trish's ass is complete bullshit, I replayed that mission today.

>>16284937

Does it still have it on Lady’s?

>>16285019

I didn't recall seeing a lenses flare when I got there but I have them turned off in the settings.

>tfw still waiting for mods that fix the characters faces

>>16285042

awesome, just got it on pc so I wanted to make sure seeing as for a couple days people really couldn't get their facts straight about the versions that were censored and the ones that weren't.

>>16285045

>sour grapes

Who likes asses anyway, asses are gay and for weirdos

>>16285008

PC version Lady scene is censored but Trish is not because of a patch

PS4 version Lady and Trish scenes are censored,

>>16285045

I do not find asses attractive myself, but I will defend anons' right to see them. Call it my baguette heritage.

>>16285060

>not liking the ass

A fine ass is a symbol of a girl's willingness to better herself. I bet your waifu is a lazy whore.

>>16285060

That has nothing to do with being gay you dumb fucker. If it's on a woman, it isnt gay.

Fuck OFF with your astroturf. You dont like thing? Great. Stop trying to make it seem like nobody else should it gets fucking old here.

I feel like it's the same person or few people doing this astroturfing jewish bullshit about EVERYTHING and if this person was located and eliminated, this board would become better instantly.

>>16285060

The ass is just the original tits

>>16285208

>I feel like it's the same person or few people doing this astroturfing jewish bullshit about EVERYTHING

So 50% of the users on the site should leave?

So I've beaten Cavalier Angelo on this playthrough on Son of Sparda and I haven't died yet. I never played the older DMC games on higher difficulty than Devil Hunter and I'm kinda surprised. Should I expect it to get actually hard on DMD? So far the real challenge is trying to get S ranks, and the only times I ever died on Devil Hunter were boss fights.

>>16285407

Doesn't it have 4 difficulties above Devil Hunter?

>>16285418

Heaven & Hell and Hell & Hell are what I consider meme difficulties. I might play through Heaven & Hell for fun because it's supposed to be a walk in the park but fuck Hell & Hell. I know I'm not perfect and I find 'hardcore' style difficulties tedious. If other people want to play through a difficulty where you die in 1 hit power to them, I just think it's too frustrating to be fun.

I hope they add pvp in the blood palace, not as a main attraction, but as a side mode.

>>16285417

Can you royal guard his ass when he's flying?

>>16285392

People who do that shit should go to hell.

>>16285680

Yes, probably even Royal Release.

>>16285696

I was watching some guy fight him to get a strategy down for later difficulties and he RG'd everything but when Vergil was flying at him.

>>16285680

You can Royal Release his divebomb charge and it will knock him out of his flying phase, kinda like how Nero's DDT ends the phase.

>>16285732

I wonder why that streamer refrained from doing so then. He died alot.

>>16285819

He might not have known, there are a lot of boss interactions that the game doesn't tell you about. For example reflecting Goliath's/Urizen's fireballs with Gerbera. You can also grab Artemis out of her divebombs with Nero same as Vergil.

>>16285869

>reflecting Goliath's/Urizen's fireballs with Gerbera

That's a tip from the load screen

>>16285869

Speaking of Artemis I hate that bitch on SoS.

I dont even know how I'm gonna deal with Vergil.

>>16285680

Yes, you can also knock him out of it with a charged tomboy gunshot.

>>16285886

Doesn't mean that a lot of people doesn't know it. What do you think a streamer does after they die, read the loading screen tips or read chat/donations?

Fact is most people who play videogames are absolutely fucking awful at them even if they enjoy them. Or at least this is my opinion from personal experience showing friends games/genres that are outside of their wheelhouse. Nothing is intuitive to them, having to explain lock on and what button is what a bunch of times.

>>16285916

The only trouble I had with her was her new "get off me" scream attack. Now that Devil Bringer is unlocked just grab her every time she charges you and you get a full stunstate grab animation. Nero stabs her in the face with Red Queen and you can rev it during the grab for more damage.

>>16285931

Compared to the fight against him as Dante that's just a scripted event though.

>>16285934

>The only trouble I had with her was her new "get off me" scream attack.

Mainly that. It does too much damage.

Reminder that only casuals use SDT

>>16285959

has anyone done anything cool with that skill that lets you cancel SDT while you're in SSS rank? I'm not sure I understand its use, but I havent tried it

>>16285959

>Not using Quadruple S

You're the only casual here pal.

anyone know why the game would have issue connecting online? I keep getting the DMC Crew's play data.

>>16285977

this guy does some neat stuff with it.

>>16285941

It isn't that hard to spot the tell. She kinda wraps herself in her wings before she screams, just jump away/use gerbera. You should have the triple jump unlocked so you should have enough resources to jump out.

>tfw I'm missing 1 orb fragment and I cannot figure out which fucking one it is.

>>16285977

The description for Quadruple S is a kind of hard to understand, but what the move actually does is when at SSS you get to transform into Sin DT instantly where unusually you need to watch the animation. and you get 3 free seconds before it starts to using up your meter.

>>16286113

Also just tested it, you can also freely turn off Sin DT durring those 3 Seconds, so as long as your at SSS you can turn Sin DT on and off again as much as you want as long as the meter isn't draining

>>16285959

>not using super devil trigger

Wtf are you even doing with dante? His fucking sin devil trigger tree costs like 1 million orbs to max out. It's also the toppest of the tiers in terms of damaging and SSSing bosses.

>>16286048

I usually just jump over her the hurtbox on the scream is kind of weird and I can avoid it most of the time by just jumping over her mid combo.

>>16285428

>you die in 1 hit

well i have good news for you

in DMC4 you get actually 4 hits in hell and hell, to tell the truth is easier than DMD since there were enemies that killed you in one hit.

>>16285407

son of sparda is just one step away from devil hunter DMD is ehrn shit goes crazy

>>16286287

DMC5's hell and hell is actually tougher in comparison to DMC4's, DMC4 you still had checkpoints after you lost. and it didn't put your level rank on the Total rankings.

DMC5 forces you to restart the whole level if you die, and if you end up using 3 gold orbs you get penalized for 0.50 of your score. meaning if you want an S rank you can only get hit twice.

Your still fighting SOS level enemies so whether or not it's harder then DMD is debatable, but given the fact the game wants you to S rank it, now the mode is definitely worthy of the title Hell and Hell.

>>16286304

shut, sos is no joke

shit

>>16286304

And that's what I mean by tedious. If I ever decide to 'master' this game I'll give it a try, but when/if I finish DMD if anything I'll probably feel like replaying 1/3/4. I don't like beating my head against a brick wall, and playing on Hell & Hell I imagine will feel like that.

>>16286551

I'm not really sure. When I saw the cutscene with Lady asking Nico for clothes I swear I saw a lens flare, but I didn't see one when Trish is seen naked. But then again, I've been fucking back and forth with graphics settings to improve performance, I'm going to set lens flare to on, then off, and check both cutscenes.

>>16286654

I didn't have lens flares either, anon. Maybe it just doesn't happen when you turn off bloom or some such thing. I always turn things like that off.

>>16286670

On both the Lady and Trish scenes? Are you legit or pirate? What pirate release are you using? I really want to get to the bottom of this but it's 1am and I should be getting to bed soon.