/v/ - Video Games

Beyond the Beyond is okay but Golden Sun is better.

I think I played this before. There's a sliding tile puzzle, and there's a plot about Samson losing his strength? I never finished uit, it was when I was renting games as a kid

Beyond the Beyond was my first rpg.

I couldn't get very far in it, seemed really imbalanced/punishing.

>>16217261

>JRPG

>king of anything

Also that guy wears a skirt lmao

>>16217395

He's clearly wearing a dress

Honestly never heard of it.

Arc The Lad III?

>>16217398

>>16217395

It's a tunic and it's really not that weird. Do you go around acting like retards in Zelda threads when Link wears the exact same fucking thing?

>>16217409

Link is Ganon's twink, of course he does, that's like so g-gross haha..

Never played it but, I remember reading about it in Game Fan back in the day. they weren't too kind to it

>>16217420

You and the other two morons go dunk your heads in cement.

>>16217425

"professional" critics have always had a hateboner for anything japanese.

>>16217425

It's a slow meandering game made even worse by Working Designs-tier reduced exp rates in the American release, that's why Camelot switched to golf sims.

>>16217465

You don't have to grind a lot if you are good. There are a lot of options in battle to get through encounters. You just can't play it like most other JRPGs where bosses matter far more than standard enemies. There aren't a lot of bosses in the game.

>>16217465

Reduced exp rates? Why make a jrpg unnecessarily more difficult? What fuck, Working Designs? I played Lunar.

>>16217459

>"professional" critics have always had a hateboner for anything japanese.

Actually back then GF was very pro Japanese. Wouldn't have known about wild arms if it weren't for them.

>>16217481

If I want to play a good RPG where combat is bump into enemies I will play a roguelike.

>>16217261

Owned it, played it, beat it. Can't remember a thing about it and take that to mean my memory is shit and the game was mediocre as I tend to remember the better experiences. Also, a warning, the more boring video games you play, they will all wrap up into a blur and that blur will be the product of your life. If a game sucks or is not a great title, don't waste your time and money and life– it is better to replay a great game.

.>>16217488

Launch title short sub-20-hour JRPG artificially lengthened with a retarded decision.

>>16217288

That makes sense since BtB is proto-Golden sun

>>16217615

The spell animations in Shining the Holy Ark were pretty flashy.

>>16217628

The only BoF games I really like are 5 and 1, I'd like 3 more if it had less grinding, it's nowhere near as bad as in 2 though. IV imitates Final Fantasy 7 too much.

>>16217552

I never managed to get into VIII, perhaps because the story was basically twink shit being spun into saving the world like a lot of those LiveJournal fanfics. No matter how well written it was I still hated it although mechanically the game was competent; when compared to its direct predecessor, at least VII's attempt at edginess was hilarious at times.

>>16217747

Nothing like having army battles where nothing you do matters because you're scripted to win or lose after a few turns. Or party battles so easy a 6 years old could be proficient at. Only redeemable part of the game was that dindu nothin wrong villain guy that you need your entire army to kill.

>>16217780

>>16217747

>>16217796

Any jayRPGs where you get to play as the guy with his ideals? It always amuses me how the villains in these stories are actually always right and the protagonists are fools for fighting him due to muh feels.

>>16217548

Only Ys I,II and IV had the bump system the rest had a sword slash attack, a jumping mechanic and a magic attack. Simple, but very versatile.

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>>16217857

>nier replicant

Thanks anon, haven't tried that one yet.

>FFVI

Patrician taste. Kefka/Cefca is perhaps the only majorly known jayRPG villain where you could make the argument that he isn't a dindu nuffin.

>>16217906

I would have shit on VIII a lot more but I also know a lot of anons here liked it, and didn't want to invite pointless bickering. VI and VII were the most memorable ones to me anyway. VIII for me was meh, beat it once with no trouble and never thought about it again, and I never even bothered to look for VIII hentai to fap to.

>twink this

>twink that

Stop using faggot language what the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>16217548

Even Ys II had magic along with the bump system, which makes it 200% more challenging and exciting than anything in turn-based, random encounter jrpgs genre.

>>16217906

>>16217967

The issue 8 had was that it drained a lot of the normal (read: good) type of build up that a story that is 4 fucking discs long needs, so it was really hard to finish. At least it had the most embarrassing spaghetti spilling date scene in vidya. Still makes me laugh.

turn-based rpgs are too easy. no effort, no skill.

the pointless random encounters get super annoying when you're trying to travel through places.

>>16218230

So talk about something else. What the fuck do you want?

>>16218232

>So talk about something else.

>>16218029

>Image

Gesundheit is good shit.

>>16218232

>What the fuck do you want?

The mythical Japanese RPG.

>>16218230

>RPGs are about actual role playing and not numbers or gear or exploring a world or any of that shit

>this is why Way of the Samurai 1 is a better RPG than Ultima

>>16218230

considering WRPGs are a dead genre

yeah

>>16218211

sure some anomalies exist but 99% are too easy.

>>16218249

>The mythical Japanese RPG.

like Souls?

At this point in the game, nothing will ever convince me that either Legend of Legaia or Breath of Fire 3 aren't the pinnacle of JRPG; they're tied for first place as King. Neither of them do anything particularly groundbreaking for the genre, but they accomplished everything so effectively that it's hard to find better examples. Good lord those games are just sublime.

I like Battle Network.

You are lying. You told me months ago it was a great RPG but I played it and it is just another average RPG.

i used to have this game. it was good. i didnt like the combat much though. while it was ok, i didnt like how everyone did their own thing and i had to wait for 8 people to finish their turn before i was allowed to go. the character you control is so outnumbered, how do you even feel like you have any control of the fight?

This entire thread is a parade of horribleness.

Shamefur display

>>16218380

Got that backwards, GayRPGs were never alive. Japan hasn't made a relevant game in 20+ years.

>>16218230

>>16218249

JRPG is what these games are known as, even if it is a misnomer. If you can come up with a better term and get it to catch on, so that people actually know what you're talking about, I'll use it.

>>16218249

>The mythical Japanese RPG

Play Growlanser: The Wayfarer of Time. At the very least, it allows for more role playing than Planescape Torment, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, or Deus Ex.

>>16218536

I'm honestly surprised it's doubled in price of late locally for whatever reason (from $15 to $30), given I never heard that much good about it, be it from "professional" reviewers or anons over the years.

>>16217857

>>16217796

>Luca Blight is the literally the most physically powerful human being in Suikoden without any outside influences

while he doesn't directly bear a true rune, half of what drives Luca is being fed super roidrage bloodlust by the Beast rune. The other half is thirst for righteous vengeance against state piggu.

After Luca is killed, the rune begins to funnel its nigger rage into jowy, who uses his true rune to counteract it. Its why he's almost dead at the end of the game.

>>16218940

It was a launch title with not that many copies floating around and no digital version available. As time goes on the price will go up.

What is legit the best RPG ever made? What has the most meaningful depth (i.e., replayability) and fun and varied content? Is it a Tales of game?

>>16219541

There is no "best ever made" rpg. My vote would be Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time because the sheer amount of shit you can do but then there are other RPGs I enjoy just as much. Only children think in such absolutes.

>>16219549

Don't be a party pooper. The point of such hyperbole is to force people to actually consider what RPGs do gameplay really well.

>>16217288

Golden Sun is gay. BtB rules. Look at those awesome battle graphics.

>>16217603

Sf3 was pretty damn good.

>>16218230

Tactics Ogre has multiple decisions that actually effect the course of the game unlike Western trash that just gives you different flavor text depending on what you choose in the dialogue tree.

>>16217663

>I'd like 3 more if it had less grinding

It has no grinding though. As long as you explore and don't run away from battles you won't have any problems.

>>16219579

Never tried it because it looks like shit. Why did devs back then jump on the shitty early 3D bandwagon?

>>16219541

Probably Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy VI

>>16219648

Chrono Trigger is a pretty shallow game without much replayability at the end of the day.

>>16219606

There's battles every 5 seconds since they put in an encounter rate worse than Dragon Quest.

>>16219699

That was alot games in the early 90s, dude

>>16219699

I'd rather play Chrono than Fag Out or Infinity Engine garbage any day of the week.

>>16219818

I certainly didn't claim any of those shitstains were good RPGs.

>>16219648

>Probably baby's first JRPG and Glitch Fantasy VI

>>16219555

The problem with that hyperbole is that people recommend entry level shit that's been discussed to death.

>>16220127

BtB is not entry level and has barely been discussed.

>>16220134

>BtB is not entry level

Because it's so shit no one is required to play it.

>has barely been discussed.

Because it's a forgettable, disposable Camelot game. It's only known for being a pre FFVII rpg that got a western release.

>>16219818

Fag Out? Are you talking about classic Fallout?

>>16220491

Nobody can help your shit taste.

>>16220491

It wouldn't be as shitty if someone patched out the slow-ass battle speed and reverted the fucked exp rates, the sprites looked nice enough.

>>16219521

Yeah, but rarity shouldn't exactly count as reason for a price hike on its own if the game itself isn't considered good enough to have demand to warrant it. I mean, as far as doubling in price, going up just $15 isn't super awful, but there are still other PS1 RPGs I'd consider to be better worth the $30 or so price tag. Assuming one doesn't just pirate, that is.

>>16219606

>Why did devs back then jump on the shitty early 3D bandwagon?

Because that's what system owners were pushing? Beyond that, consider that it was also an issue on the consumer end once 3D started to get popular: otherwise good 2D games had some trouble getting an audience when they were being seen as "outdated". And in the case of JRPGs, Square's games oft being what everything else after FFVII was compared against (either due to familiarity for normalfags or that the logo stood for quality), not using 3D like they were for their PS1 original releases could be seen as a point against being able to compete.

>>16217488

Either because they wanted to make rentals a hassle to finish in favor of outright sales or because they thought they could balance a game better than the original devs. And that's on top of thinking they could write a more entertaining story than the original devs at that.

>>16220567

classically shit, it's not a good game. Lets stop pretending it is for e-cred.

>>16219699

It's still a very fun adventure with a solid combat system and great story beats. Far from my favorite classic RPG but I can see why lots of people love it.

>>16217815

Maybe one of the Dept. Heaven games. I think you can go full genocide in Yggdra Union but I could be wrong.

>>16220134

It's horrendously boring and next to nobody has played it.

>>16219521

The only people that publicly announce their care about old games are scalpers.

>>16217996

Somehow I still had a much easier time finishing 8 than 9.

9 feels blend and soulless compared to its predecessors. I have not tried any mainline ff since.

>>16221719

That has absolutely nothing to do with why BtB is rare and has a price to match that rarity. There were probably less than 500k copies floating around when it was new. The copy I had I got from a friend in 98 and it didn't even have a case anymore.

>>16222123

'Rarity' reminds me of rats that see shiny garbage that they can re-sell to retards, for all we know it could also be op.

>>16222140

>everything should be low cost, or free, preferably free

What a bizarre notion. Exactly at what point did you go completely retarded and assume that the price of games is entirely due to scalpers and otherwise they would be dirt cheap or free? Scalpers can explain why a game gets to be 100+ dollars, but a 22 year old game going from 15 to 30 dollars is not from scalpers. The rarity of the game, which will increase with age since fewer copies will remain, and monetary inflation explain such a price increase.

You are also a cum guzzling faggot for implying that I am advocating anyone buy a used game. Emulate it or don't.

>>16219541

>rpg

>replayability

jrpgs have the worst replayability, once you know the boss strats everything is trivial, and the customization is more for flavour and looks

>>16217261

eh I like chrono trigger, so bite me.

>>16222249

Kill yourself scalperkike.

>>16219541

SagGa Frontier gets my vote. Replay it will different characters, then you get to go to the secret lair and have the devs kick your ass.

>>16222410

>>16222427

end your life goon

>>16222410

Get a new image

Imagine having such a simplistic way of thought and narrow experience of a broad genre that you are able to quantify your experiences to choose the 'best'.

>>16223383

I have this morbid curiosity and want to try it out even though I've seen videos of the game and it didn't look like I'd enjoy it.

>>16223615

it's shit

>>16223564

It's been years and I still don't know where t his is from.

>>16218526

Are there any other RPGs that let you style on your opponent as hard as this series?

>best jRPG thread

>zero mentions of Breath of Fire 3

What is wrong with you guys?

>>16223615

The combat is great, the customization options are pretty good, and the writing is so shit it gets enjoyable at the end. 13-3 is legitimately a fun game, even as someone who isn't a Lightningfag.

>>16224080

>The combat is great, the customization options are pretty good

So they really did repurpose VP3 and turn it into muh Lightning.

What a shame.

I'll probably try it out once I'm done with my other games.

>>16217261

Please tell me this is sarcasm. One of the shittiest JRPG's of all-time, trying to get sales purely by being one of the earliest 5th-gen games released. I mean the fact one of Sega's development teams released it on the Playstation says it all.

>>16221641

Maybe it's just not YOUR cup of tea.

How's the wild arms series? Been meaning to try that.

>it's "babby's first video game is the best [genre] game" thread again

>>16225117

Not selling me on the game play

>>16217261

Chrono Trigger.

FF6, Chrono Trigger, Terranigma, SNES Mario RPG, Suikoden 2, Valkyrie Profile, Xenogears, Skies of Arcadia and I'd like to put Ogre Battle/tactics ogre/ff tactics in there, but I guess that's not a true jrpg and would go in an srpg thread. you could add random stuff like a persona game (they are all pretty much the fucking same story and gameplay), skies/cold steel, one dragon warrior game since they all play the fucking same, shit like legend of mana, secret of evermore, etc, but you are just getting more and more niche by then.

>>16223383

>the FFXIII trilogy

>XIII trilogy

>13th game

>trilogy

Even though I know the context this is still bizarre.

>>16225915

> xenogears

You have good taste. Not that the games mentioned by others aren't good, played the majority of those mentioned and liked them, some are really good but Square was really about to accomplish something unique with xenogears (too bad they cut resources and rushed the game at the end).

Legend of Mana is an interesting choice, a very unique, conceptual game, but I wouldn't count it as a JRPG.

>>16225855

Played 1, 2 and 3 back in the day. I really enjoyed all of them. They are as much sequels to each other as final fantasy games are, so there's no worries about starting anywhere in the series and missing out on story, the theme simply rhymes to some extent.

Despite liking 1, I'm not sure how much I'd recommend it nowadays. Story and mechanics is very standard compared to other RPGs. Features some cool villains, with very cool relationships and the occasional disturbing plot development.

WA2 tells the most strange story of these three, has good twists and truly gives the MC a Big Fat Meaty Role to play in the story and team. Gives you a true feeling of having a Chad MC.

3 is the first that gives a more honest attempt at distancing from traditional jRPG mechanics of the day. Effectively upgrading your characters actually requires you to think what their weapons are good at and to what extent you want to rely on a particular weapon special. If you mess up you can still respec it later so don't worry too much. Vehicle combat is pretty neat almost puzzle like and the setting is the most western-like of these first 3 games. Apparently also features the most forgettable of the plots because I can't fucking remember what happens in the game.

>>16219566

OK retard.