/v/ - Video Games

>more aesthetic shit

Who gives a fuck, what are they actually doing to improve critical gameplay issues?

I enjoyed terraria but now that I've farmed the moon lord and got the best shit I don't see much of a point in playing tbh. never got into the whole 'creative' aspect where you build stuff, I just liked it for shoot n' loot in a randomly generated world

>A Terraira thread with no IGGshit in the OP

Good job anon! You're not incompetent!

Gonna start up a serber or what?

No wait, in fact dont start up a serber, wait until the new update comes out.

Anybody got an estimate for when it will drop?

>>16213021

I'm waiting since about 1 year.

I guess the Otherworld scrapping really pushed back their predictions.

I'm bored as fuck, tell me what's so addicting about this game and i might try it

>>16213021

Sometime between right fucking now and several years from now.

>>16212986

Isn't Terraria frequently on sale for, like, $3? I can't see how anyone who likes it wouldn't have bought it by now, unless they're the sorts of people who refuse to ever spend any amount of money on any video game ever. Then again I'm probably in the extreme minority on /v/, being one of the few people who has spent any amount of money on any video game within the past decade or so.

Sage for offtopic

>>16213185

>I'm probably in the extreme minority on /v/

Nah you're not, pirates just like to talk big thats all. I personally pirate anything thats western, seemingly questionable in quality or anything and everything on Nintendo consoles including the switch.

/v/ users still buy games all the time in fact I bought a few last year due to me finally getting a job and this year I bought AC7 and DMCV, I don't plan on getting anything else though.

>>16213505

Don't you know metroidvania means "2D game with RPG elements" now? Get with the times, grandpa. I bet you haven't even played any soulslites or roguevanias yet.

Shitposting aside, early game movement progression in Terraria has always reminded me of the movement progression in some Metroid games. You start off a lot slower than in any 2D Metroid game, but then you slowly gather items that make you move faster, run at high speeds, jump higher, negate fall damage, glide on a magic carpet, hover into the air, double jump with various different heights of double jumps based on the item, eventually up to quadra jumping if you get them all. And there's also the grappling hooks. The game loses all of that sense of progression as soon as you get wings, which used to be just before the end of the game, but now is relatively early in its overall progression. Overall the number of movement items are pretty bloated and all pale in comparison to wings as a one-size-fits-all answer, instead of having several different options you can get in almost any order and mix and match, so I feel like it's lost a lot of that sense of movement progression, but I've always felt like Terraria captures that feeling well otherwise. Of course, that's only one part of the Metroidvania style progression, and I wouldn't ever call Terraria a Metroidvania - though it does feel inspired by the genre, in some ways.

>>16213505

>>16213536

Even so, there's a number of places you can't access and have to explore and backtrack them, while finding treasure.

>>16213568

The key feature of Metroid-style games is unlocking new areas with collectible action ability-based progression. The only real instance of this that Terraria has is in the form of flight. And by the time you get that flight, there's actually no longer anything of value up in the sky chests.

>>16213580

What about hooks? That's pretty significant

>>16213589

You have an unlimited supply of rope basically the moment the Merchant moves in.

>>16213590

Not to mention being able to climb with blocks as well. In fact, in light of that, flight doesn't really fit the Metroid paradigm either.

>>16213595

So you're saying that flight is a useless ability because you can just jump and place blocks again and again? Okay.

>>16213604

He's talking about unlocking new areas by getting new abilities. Like how in Metroid games, you'd need the screw attack or speed boost to break certain blocks, or need high jump or space jump to reach certain places too high to normally jump to. The abilities are keys, in a sense, used to reach new places, instead of just being used for combat and moving faster.

>>16213642

And you don't need high jump or space jump, because you can just wall jump and bomb jump

>>16213648

In Super Metroid, anyway. That's a good rebuttal though.

If they were going to add post-Moon Lord content, where would they go from there? Only options I can see are a hell revamp similar to how the dungeon updates once you kill Plantera, or doing something with SPEHSS

They should add a game-ending final boss to actually make use of all that crap you get from the Moon Lord.

We're never getting 1.3.6, their just going to give up and package it all in 1.4

Any good mods out there that aren't (((calamity)))?

>>16215544

Calamity certainly isn't one of them.

>>16215544

I liked Calamity when I played it. I didn't play all the way though, stopped at Plantera.

Thorium was okay too I guess.

>>16213648

Most of that probably wasnt intended tho

>>16217682

In Super Metroid it clearly was. The game even demos infinite bomb jumping for you after the first time you beat the game.

>>16216830

>Sea Snail

Just go AFK on top of the ocean with a water candle and a powerful enough summon.

When I first played Terraria I did so in hardcore. That was an instant regret. There's no difference in gameplay between softcore and hardcore, besides le permadeath.

>>16226943

Expert mode was what you were looking for.

>>16245021

I've never played it but it seems very unbalanced.

>>16245021

Separating some throwing weapons into a whole new damage type wasn't very wise. Also one could consider later calamity bosses to be super powerful and that you need calamity gear to even bother. Unless you have Fargos Souls, in which case you'll destroy shit super quick if you bother making those accessories.

>>16215544

Thorium is alright. I'm not sure about Spirit mod, but you could give that a try.

>>16212982

>Who gives a fuck, what are they actually doing to improve critical gameplay issues?

Such as….?

>>16245113

The only issue I can think of is that melee is for all intents and purposes just ranged weapons without ammo after hard mode. I would much prefer it to be actual melee.

>>16249732

That's the feeling I'm getting from this as well.

>>16212956

I've never really seen anyone say this but Terraria is such a good fucking name for a game. It's very memorable and just rolls right off the tongue.

>>16245021

There's a whole pastebin on why it's so bad: https://pastebin.com/XuJ6wsnQ

You guys realize Starbound released, right?

>>16251642

Which is shit game that is only salvageable with help of 20+ mods.

>>16249703

The paintings and statues are new. What I can't figure out is what the ropes are. What are the columns? They have the same texture as the marble wall, but they're clearly on the layer of furniture/actuated block. Marble block doesn't form columns like that unless Redigit redid marble blocks to automatically form columns like what Palladium brick blocks do.

Will we ever get a terraria clone with actual good combat?

I want a Symphony of the Night with a huge open world with lots of stuff to explore.

>>16227233

>still sees regular updates and support.

I get what you're saying in that it used to, but let's be honest: it doesn't anymore. The most recent minor update was 2 years ago and the most recent middling update was 2.5 years ago. With the way they've been hyping the 1.3.6 update (secretly changed to 1.4 with all the content they're adding & the colossal time investment?) for years, we have no indication of when it'll actually be released. It was Soon!! in the summer of 2017 when the devs promised it would be out in September 2017, it was Any day now!! in the summer of 2018, and it's still Just around the corner!! as of the present day, spring 2019. We may still be repeating these lines come 2020, or even 2021.

I know how unlikely that sounds, but think back to when it was September 2017 and the devs promised the update would be out before the end of the month. If, at that time, someone said "Nah, it's actually going to be delayed for years on end. By March, 2019 we'll be no closer to seeing tangible signs of a release than we are today," you might have laughed and called him a dumb faggot.

Yet here we are.

>>16252118

Hey, on the off chance that you return, what makes you enjoy Starbound more than Terraria? I like the graphics, soundtrack, general ambience, and variety of biomes & weather types, but all of that is surface level. I strongly dislike the core gameplay loop, the main questline in its entirety, and several dozens of QoL issues that are absolutely mindboggling. I've put together a pack of over 200 mods that fixes most of the QoL shit, but I'm still having trouble enjoying the meat and bones of the game.

What are your thoughts on the game's combat, enemies typically acting like passive observers that pose no threat instead of proactively coming for you the way they do in Terraria, having fewer than 0.1% as many options to mix and match gameplay-altering customization options (Starbound: ~36 total combinations of techs & focus on either melee or ranged combat using procedurally generated weapons. Terraria: tens, if not hundreds of thousands of combinations of accessories + an enormous selection of weapons that offer different playstyles spread across 5 different classes), and fun little goals like upgrading your gear to change your playstyle & keep you invested in the gameplay being spread MILES apart compared to Terraria constantly offering you 5-10+ achievable goals at all times to keep things interesting & varied?

Don't get me wrong, I want to enjoy this game and hope you can shed some light on mods I might've missed that fix these major gameplay issues.

>>16212956

So, can you make a bamboo spear?

>>16251642

>>16252118

>Starbound

>worth fuckall in comparison to Terraria

First of all: they aren't even remotely similar.

Terraria is not a game for builders, rather it is an adventure game with building features.

In Terraria you don't need to make a village with proper rooms, then hire underlings, explore that, search for this, fuck a duck, none of that.

Terraria is an adventure "sandbox" game, with a sort of a metroidvania aspect to it, though it usually ties more with your ability to kill things rather than getting a specific item to unlock the way forward.

Starbound meanwhile, aside from being a fucking mess bloated with useless shit nobody cares about, ugly as fuck aesthetic, lore that is just the most boring soy infested thing (I heard they even removed the part about Florans genociding Hylotl) is a game about exploring biomes, different biomes, building (maybe) from them, searching for specific shit and doing quests a la Skyrim, with a set progression tied with "talk to this guy, then suck his dick".

They are nothing alike and even if they were Starbound still remains a bland mess of nothing.

Do any of you know if terraria overhaul works well with thorium? I don't think any of the thorium weapons and gear are touched by the mod so they may seem out of place compared to the overhauled vanilla shit.

>>16260652

fully compatible so it should work fine

>>16259321

I don't know but we've needed a ching chong nip nong weapon and armor set for the longest time.

>>16252118

Nice bait fagolio

>>16271415

Are those goblins? Is that in the game or?

>>16271561

Goblins have been in the game since forever.

>>16271530

That may, in fact, intended to be an Alucard cosplay now that I see it since the summon is called Vampire Frog. Fyi that hairstyle is already in the game.

>>16212956

>tfw console pleb and waiting for never ever updates

>>16212956

This game should be at 10.3.6 by now. Like seriously how long does it take to drop some fucking 8x8 bitmaps into your game and hook up their code to make it run. The amount of shit they've added it should be drag-and-drop by now. Hurry the fuck up you lazy half-assed devs.

I'm honestly perplexed as to how anyone can enjoy this shit. As a 'creative' game it's just a bland 2D Minecraft (which is already a shitty kids' game), and as a platforming/action game it's even worse, sporting only bare-bones controls, mind-numbingly boring enemies/bosses, and a general lack of variety in gameplay. Come to think of it, the combat has about as much depth as Minecraft's, too…

>>16275831

why are you talking about starbound in a terraria thread

>>16275860

There's not much of a difference between the two, whether you like it or not.

>>16274494

This is what you get for trusting 505.

>>16275831

There's no creative aspect to terraria, except creating a straight shaft to hell and creating a straight rope up to a cloud and then a straight platform to run for star and wyvern farming.

It's a hack and slash dungeon crawler with light building elements to attract autists. The game you're talking about is Starbound, which is an autism simulator without any actual gameplay elements.

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>>16275892

It was five bucks, I probably shouldn't be complaining

why the fuck is it so hard to get a medusa head fuck 4 banners in and not a single one why the fuck does the game keep giving me fucking pocket mirrors

getting the rod of discord wasnt this bad

>>16277813

Build a farm with toe deep lava platforms everywhere (so you can also collect coins), I've gotten a few that way. Not sure why you'd want one though, they aren't very good.

>>16278104

I wasn't really planning on using it I'm just trying to get one of every weapon, I already managed to get all of the boss weapons and most of the metal ones

>>16277813

the rng in this game is fucking retarded

>>16278856

Tell me about it. I did 3 pirate invasions, got all three of the super rare drops (gold ring, lucky coin, and discount card) then died to an explosive trap a couple hours later (without saving) so I had to do it again and it took over 20 invasions just to get the coin back again.

I tried to get into this, but I absolutely hate the UI and the copied-homework Final Fantasy sprites. What's the appeal?

>>16279441

>playing on mediumcore

>>16279635

Yeah, I know. I'm getting tired of having to reload after a death, I should just make a softcore character. It's pretty unfun losing hours of effort due to bullshit traps.

>>16279682

i like having to use an inferior set of gear to fetch my shit but losing the bonus health makes me not bother with it

>>16279682

Honestly I do not understand the appeal of medium core for anybody

like if you want to make death meaningful then wouldn't you just play hardcore?

game is full of bullshit deaths anyways. especially when the screen is full of shit and you cant see half the projectiles flying across the screen

>modbrowser is offline

>wait an hour

>still offline

>wait a day or two

>still offline

Is it me or is it actually just dead now?

Also can I remove calamity while in the middle of a world and character? I thought it was alright but it's apparently aids.

some mod recommendations would be appreciated too, I have tremor, thorium and spirit mod already

>>16295571

>people think you guys are faggots.

Miss, I think you got this place confused with instagram.

>>16296317

They need to make a Dante Must Die world difficulty mode for that.

>>16296093

>The furniture made out of it looks ugly as shit too.

Wat'chu smokin monica?

>>16296093

That doesn't look like bamboo, it looks like fresh thatching with green grass.

>>16259240

This. When is Terraria 2?

>>16259240

>I get what you're saying in that it used to, but let's be honest: it doesn't anymore. The most recent minor update was 2 years ago and the most recent middling update was 2.5 years ago. With the way they've been hyping the 1.3.6 update (secretly changed to 1.4 with all the content they're adding & the colossal time investment?) for years, we have no indication of when it'll actually be released. It was Soon!! in the summer of 2017 when the devs promised it would be out in September 2017

The long and the short of it is that Engine Software fucked them, in multiple ways, and they've been putting out fires all this time and have been left with a huge gap where another game should have been.

>>16296399

They basically said that after the Otherworld debacle that they wouldn't announce any new games in the future until they are basically already a done deal.

>>16254782

There's "It Lurks Below", but I am not sure if that counts as having good combat. What I do know is that it is butt ugly. Also, still in development.

>>16275896

>t. uncreative brainlet

>>16213648

>two advance techniques only available in three Metroid games completely nullify the fact that most progression is impossible without having a specific ability

The point is, in Terraria, no progress is directly blocked by lack of a specific ability or item. Grappling hooks, extra jump, wings, etc, just make navigating terrain easier. They don't actually allow you to go anywhere you couldn't already. Contrast to Metroid, where you need the morphball to access one tile high spaces. You need missiles to open red doors. You need bombs to break the majority of breakable blocks in the game. The closest thing to that, in Terraria, are the pickaxe/drill/explosive tiers needed to break certain blocks, which only really blocks you from getting corruption orbs/crimson hearts immediately.

>>16273819

>caring for minor details of starbound

>over the many aspects that turn terraria into a far better game

>>16275831

>>16275865

>>16275896

Terraria is incredibly creative. You have hundreds of blocks and items to play with. Protectable/ed multiplayer (unlike starbound's plagued with cheats one), beautiful aesthetics, etc.

The structures you menctioned are somewhat necessary, and you did not even list them all (npc houses for example).

I bet that you dislike Minecraft and cannot see why do people like and love it.

Terraria is an amazing game, and it's very different from starbound.

>>16331052

>player base wants new content

>devs give kites and background balloon slimes

I don't even want the next version anymore.

>>16331558

I do. I'm fine with them holding off on adding more power creep.

>>16331558

The stuff flying in the background is some new thing that tends to be stuff that will spawn, so eyes flying about at night etc.

>>16332007

New bank?

>>16331039

It feels like they're trying to make their game comfier by fluffing it up with a lot of minor shit like new backgrounds, lighthearted music based on Winnie the Pooh, and pointless but cheerful things like balloons and kites.

>>16332258

I meant to say that they're adding more stuff involving balloons, if that background is anything to go off of.

>>16332096

Yep. This one acts as an automatic inventory overflow.

>>16212986

last time i set up a server only one guy fucking joined

>>16332354

last time I made a server lazy niggers that didn't want to do it their self bitched that I didn't use their grocery list of mods

>>16333554

>grocery list of mods

Okay you autistic fuckers, post this grocery list and I'll host it. Be forewarned though, I live in yurostan so prepare for high ping and a generally poor internet connection

>>16213163

It's one of those games where you can basically just chill out and mine/build. However it also has a lot of combat and boss fights for whenever you get bored, and a lot of loot to find. Once you get into it, it's difficult to stop.

>>16333801

Thorium

Magic Storage

Recipe Browser

Boss Checklist

Max Stack Plus

The above 5 are a pretty good base configuration, Thorium is the only content addon (unless you really want to consider magic storage as content). The rest just streamline storage, crafting, etc.

>>16342651

magic storage is completely unstable in multiplayer so i wouldn't recommend it too much,also add no more tombs and weaponout to that list

>>16342931

>magic storage is completely unstable in multiplayer

I beat a Thorium 2player playthrough with zero issues with it on back in August, so you're gonna have to divulge further on that one.

>>16344367

It's an issue related to how many items a single chunk can handle before it just refuses to load, leaving behind a giant square of nothing. I believe the limit for a chunk is over 2k items.

>>16344380

Forgot to mention this only happens in multiplayer, singleplayer has no issue whatsoever.

>>16344380

Isn't that related to network speed?

I remember someone wanted to host a game but had shit connection, you'd just run left/right when starting then suddenly no more blocks and you'd fall down until the chunk just load and your money is now stuck in the middle of blocks.

>>16344432

Something to do with filestreaming I think, it's not slow loading but rather the chunk will not load. There have been attempts to fix this and it may be fixed in a future version of tmodloader.

>>16346940

>You can feed fish and presumably ducks

Fuck yeah.

>>16346940

>more cosmetic shit

>>16347010

>two new summons

>cosmetic

>>16347020

>I heard a rumor that they are removing throwing damage and just converting it all to ranged.

That's kind of shitty

>>16346940

>Even more features

just release what you have already fuck

>>16342931

>>16342651

You almost definitely need "Which mod is this from", it does exactly what it says.

Related to magic storage, does anyone know if there is a mod (or two mods) to do the following things:

A) Stop accessories/weapons from spawning modified (Related to the next point)

B) Make accessories/weapons stack in inventory (Like in magic storage)

It will make farming with tons of mods infinitely less frustrating. I know how to code but I can't find the exact hook in the TModLoader documentation to do A), and I have no idea if it's possible to do B).

>>16347062

While you think items like weapons/accessories stack in magic storage, they aren't actually stacked and take up the listed number of space.

>>16347069

Yeah that makes me think B) isn't really possible or that it needs some hook that isn't yet in TModLoader.

>>16347074

I don't need it to work with magic storage, I want the inventory to work like magic storage. But if >>16347069 is right it's likely that there is some limitation in the game that disallows you to stack weapons or accessories.

Looking through that mod code may help, thank you.

>>16347120

The max stack plus extra mod stacks every item to 9999 even if it really shouldn't.

https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/max-stack-plus-extra.73606/

>>16347147

Fuck if I could get the source code for this I could adapt it for my needs. At least I know it is possible thank you.

>>16347020

>>16347038

>>16347074

I don't really mind if throwing gets merged to ranged because throwing is too niche to be useful 95% of the time, but I feel it's unfair to other classes. Melee seriously needs a big upgrade, and summoning needs weapons that let you control minions more so you don't have to rely on weapons from other classes.

>>16212956

imagine being this excited about bamboo

Imagine getting excited over cosmetic shit and not overhaul-like stuff.

Give me enviromental/enemy hazards to my builds please.

What this game actually fucking needs:

A prepare risk-reward system that punishes the player meaningfully without going overboard with Hardcore mode. Terraria needs a limited-lives mode where the player can craft extra lives with finite resources like some number of heart pieces. The game has never had good pacing and "beating" stuff feels almost never feels rewarding because there's hardly any punishment for failure.

It's also a good idea to drastically increase the amount of things dropped by bosses. When you get to hardmode it's grind, grind, grind. I beat a number of bosses multiple times as a matter of standard practice on my hardcore runs and it really adds nothing to the game. At least two times for each mechanical boss, gotta kill the Wall of Flesh a shitload of times to for all the emblems I need, and always like eight or nine times to get that fucking Golem to drop both a sun stone and eye of the golem. And then I have to beat that tower defense minigame something like 15 times in a single playthrough because 1) getting enough medals to buy the next tier of summon tool immediately when it's available is critical to beating them in a period where the armor rewards are actually useful and 2) Betsy can be really asinine in dropping the wings or weapon you really want.

>>16347299

I don't approve of all the changes in Thorium, but I think giving the boss-type enemies in the Old One's Army each their own bag of stuff to drop including more medals so you don't have to grind it so goddamn much was a massive improvement.

>>16332007

Cool more effects and animations to make the game run like an even bigger piece of shit on Linux than it already does.

>>16347501

Let me tell you bout your blood bamboo kid, it’s not Coca Cola, it’s rice.

>>16347501

>der ewige panda

kriegsanstifter

kriegsverlängerer

call me when it's something meaningful

>>16347606

We're apparently getting a new mini boss too.

>>16347074

next update: merging melee into ranged

>>16346940

Where were these posted originally? I've been looking around every time I see spoiler stuff posted here, but only like half the time do I find it elsewhere.

>>16347785

They were originally posted to discord and then reuped to imgurl.

>I've been looking around every time I see spoiler stuff posted here, but only like half the time do I find it elsewhere.

Sometimes you have to follow the links at the bottom of the wiki page to find some of the stuff. They also on occasion post to their instagram or their own personal twitters. Stuffs all over everywhere.

>>16212989

>you can choose which type of evil spread you get

fuckin finally

>>16351278

That's been a thing for a long time, it's unlocked the first time you beat the Wall of Flesh. Map seed is new however.

>>16351347

World seeds have been a thing since 1.3.4, enable experimental features in config which also allows texture packs.

>>16347020

I'd rather throwing get merged into melee tbh, or just merged around depending on what you are throwing, with daggers being melee, bombs being ranged and flasks or whatever the fuck being magic.

Throwing in general is pretty cool and tickles the monkey part of my brain, not one class should hold monopoly on it.

>>16351833

I wonder how the two throwing armors will fare from the change?

>>16351833

>ranged attacks should be part of melee

>non-magic attacks should be part of magic

No.

>>16351278

There's an external world generation tool that lets you get both. The world will still only count as one due to the way game data is handled, so you'll only get one hardmode stripe upon killing the wall, but it's fun to play with all the same.

>>16348201

>Mooncock now a boss fight

>>16351906

Ranged attacks should be anything you use with a device, so if you use a bow, a crossbow, a gun or a rocket launcher it should be a ranged attack, including bombs and whatnot because it is not the hit that deals the damage but the device.

Daggers, shurikens and whatever else meanwhile should be melee, because you use raw physical strength to throw it, the damage is caused by the item itself having an impact on the enemy, thus your physical abilities are relevant.

Magical daggers, flasks or whatever other crazy thing meanwhile it is magic because it is crazy shit, a flask is not quite like a bomb because it is a magical bomb, it's not just black powder but crazy ass magical powders that make it special, as such everything that an alchemist could throw or anything that is basically a manifestation of magical energies should be magic.

>>16375365

>Daggers, shurikens and whatever else meanwhile should be melee, because you use raw physical strength to throw it, the damage is caused by the item itself having an impact on the enemy, thus your physical abilities are relevant.

I'm sure you thought this made sense because it's like real life, but it has absolutely no relevance to this game because there's no strength stat. The closest is melee speed, which increases the range of a lot of weapons.

>>16371205

Antiaris is pretty good and has some cross-content with thorium,enigma is mediocre at best

>>16377297

after all this time they are finally writing from text files for story

YIPPEY THIS BEATS THE AAA

>>16377456

>>16377418

have sex

>>16377498

hey cupid whats up

>>16377456

sauce?

>>16379785

>IP: ngp.mynode.name

Are you sure this is correct?

>>16377297

If you're looking for souls game, this is it…

>>16378962

I only saved that cap as a reaction. But far be it from me to keep an anon from his lewds, so I went and found sauce.

search for: "Student Council President's Slave / 会長のいいなり!"