/v/ - Video Games

Normalniggers probably are starting to realize the market is now oversaturated with the meme genre that is soulshit and the fact that the first Nioh is still being talked about while this and Ghost of Tsushima is also coming out doesn't help. In fact, I think a lot of them thought GoT and Sekiro were the same game. Different platforms and game mechanics, of course, but then again most PS4-owning normalniggers also play casualshit PC gayms.

The fact that it doesn't have Dark Souls style multiplayer might have turned normalfags and people that enjoy invasions away from the game, to be honest all I cared about DS was invasions.

the bandwagon died off after youtubers hopped on to different FOTM genres. Capshit killed and buried DS1's multiplayer. and normalfaggots are too busy playing BR gacha shit to even bother looking at some recycled "soulcore" that handles nearly identical because it's the same fucking engine

Probably just playing a BR game or whatever AAA garbage is trending right now. You really think the average normalnigger cares about Nioh? They wouldn't be able to get through the tutorial level. That game gets boring as fuck anyway, and it has enough differences to where it shouldn't really even be compared to Souls although some of the audiences will overlap.

>>16189132

I don't think they care about games period. Thats exactly what marketing loves them for.

In 2007, shock of shocks, games overtook movies in revenue and old money from that industry bought major shares in companies like microsoft, bethesda, activision and electronic arts. They pushed the whole "I'm such a nerd xD" culture and the concept of "watercooler games".

This means the most normal of normalfags buy a game day one. Play it for about an hour and trade it in or sell it on the second hand market. These are easy day one unit sales to a cattle market that don't give a fuck what the game is. Only that its the newest thing their streamers told them to 'get hype' about to push their parasocial relationship syndrome buttons.

I saw so many people buy REmake 2 having never touched the series before going "OMG streamer HYPE!" and after playing it for 30 minutes all went "this shit is too hard!" and sold it again. I know plenty of people who save money entirely buying games on this second hand '6 hours out the store' market on places like craigslist and gumtree.

These people don't like or play games very much at all. They are the people nu games journalists right for who don't talk about story in games but "lore" instead and will say "its a bit mean i have to "get good" at hollow knight to experience all its rich lore" as the game part is a chore to them. They want a wiki to talk about around the watercooler at work so to speak.

Question is why, after all the souls shilling, do they not care this time in particular. does bamco just have a better marketing team than activision nowadays?

>>16189098

>Why do you think the buzz for this game is none existent?

Comparatively lower advertising budget.

There's honestly nothing remarkable being shown off with this game. Soulsfags wanted more Souls and Sekiro will play similar to a Souls game but won't be one. They are going for a more straight up action game, but DMC5 comes out a couple of weeks before and will be immensely better in the gameplay department.

I'm sure it'll be a fine game but I stopped giving a shit once Sony started pulling their censorship mandates and as this is only on the PS4, fuck it

>>16189098

I haven't seen anything about Sekiro since they showed it off at E3 last year. It's probably been forgotten by now.

>>16189152

What? Sekiro is already available for PC too and I'm waiting for a cracked version.

It's like they made another souls game with more difficult as in "timing more important than ever" with these blocks and posture system. In previous souls games you could facetank shit on poisesbuilds. Plus no multiplayer invasions to hide fact every playstyle will be the same because everyone uses katana.

Both for hardcore and normalfag audience this is a downgrade. Sekiro restricts where previously there was freedom of choice, people even made magic builds for souls games. Sekiro is barebones weeb fantasy

It doesn't have "Dark Souls" in the title.

Instead, it has a weird-sounding word, "Sekiro".

If you ask a normalfag about it, they'll ask you "What the fuck is a sekiro?"

That's it. You don't need another explanation. Silverline: if this games has some memetic potential, at least you won't see it plastered everywhere, only on a thread or two here every now and then. I'm not against memes, but I saw thousands of "praise the sun" variations and gradually grew saturated of it to the point I'd flay alive anyone near me doing something like that.

>>16189098

This along with Left Alive is on my to play list, the buzz and marketing is low, lower than DMC5.

>>16189143

>Question is why, after all the souls shilling, do they not care this time in particular. does bamco just have a better marketing team than activision nowadays?

Because it has a more eastern aesthetic to it. Im not joking either. Normalfags will gravitate more towards western aesthetics than eastern despite the actual quality of the said eastern game. This happens more often than you might think.

no multiplayer means no ebin youtube streams, so normalfags dont like it

no multiplayer means no invasions, so invasionfags wont like it

its gay weebshit, so singleplayerfags will only like it a little, but total conversion mods for ds1 are coming out now

>>16189098

GIVE ME ARMORED CORE FOR PC YOU FUCKING SHILLS

>>16189219

This, combined with a lack of multiplayer, Normalniggers don't like it, I for one am looking forward to it, but I'm a huge faggot who can't stop sucking cock

I'm burned the fuck out on Demon's Souls clones.

It's possible that trying to distance themselves from the souls series by making a game with a high fantasy setting was a bad decision. I don't know, I'm not an expert.

>>16189145

likely, this. they likely thought that word of mouth would work. they really should've shown more gameplay instead of teasing bosses no one cares about. the trailers that do exist do show improvements to the combat, likely taking notes from Nioh. at this point, the genre is becoming cuhrazy for normalfags

>>16189233

Yeah not the best idea. They should have stuck with the original idea of making Tenchu.

Normalfags only cared about Dark Souls because journos hyped it up as THE HARDEST GAME SERIES OF ALL TIME THAT ONLY THE TRUEST HARD CORE GAMER CAN CONQUER. There's been very little news connecting Sekiro to DS. I doubt the average normalfag doesn't even know they're by from the same developer.

>>16189240

>The biggest gimmicks of the 80s were Ninjas, Kung fu and Samurai.

>80s were Ninjas, Kung fu and Samurai

>80s

>You're fucking retarded if you don't think people are drawn to Samurai as a concept.

>80s

Guess what fucking year we are living in?

why would you be excited for a new darksouls thats trying to get NIOH out of the way while NIOH did the genre better

>>16189210

On DMC5, it's the shit ton amount of fucking shills from "influencers" who say this is better than that shitpile DmC: Didn't Make Cash. Who knows, maybe Vaati can get those normalfags to buy the game.

On a personal note, if I'm going to play a game ostensibly set in medieval japan, I want it to tie to history somewhat. Besides, I wanted more Kuon.

>>16189274

Namco Bandai is a different company from Activision.

If nobody replies to bait, is it just retardation?

Souls games were NEVER popular among normalfags.

Each game sold maybe 2 million copies TOPS, including Bloodborne.

Very vocal minority hyping them up.

Bloodborne is arguably the only worthwhile PS4 game, yet less than 5% of PS4 owners have it. Consider that.

>>16189274

>game with knights as theme

>that attracts history autists and armor autists

>they want to play as a waifu or a crime against nature

You do indeed hardly know anything about dark souls.

>>16189292

It's a multilevel bait.

>>16189292

Sekiro has nothing to do with Bamco.

>>16189298

Screencap what I posted then wait till the game bombs then eat crow.

>>16189263

god i forgot about vaati, now theres no souls game for him to lurk /vg/ to steal theories for his ancient aliens tier "but…perhaps" videos what does he do?

i remember a destiny guy trying to break into "andromeda lore" when that game turned to shit and it lasted a week.

>>16189098

I've noticed there's like zero marketing made around that game. Also I don't think people give a shit about a game without guns nowadays

>>16189306

Vaati is still shilling for FromSoft and his idoru Miyazaki, not much buzz from his Sekiro "breakdowns" and "reactions". I'll wait for the launch, either this game is a sleeper hit or Activision and FromSoft bungled the marketing.

>>16189305

Waifubait will not be the reason for the the game sucking.

>>16189306

I fucking hope there is nothing for Fagti to do with Sekiro.

Remember when you spent years playing these shit games, because someone on a forum told you it's what gud gaymrs do? You didn't like the game, as it was cheap and artificially difficult, but you were too insecure to go against the flow.

>>16189380

Wrong, played them before the PC got its ports where they were appreciated for the content of the games and not to be part of some exclusive club.

>shit games

gb2/mount&blade's simons says combat

>>16189378

I hope he never discovers Hollow Knight.

I was really into all of the Souls games and Bloodborne but I couldn't give less of a fuck about this game.

>no multiplayer

>can't customize your character

>can't be a knight

Nothing that made me give a shit about Dark Souls is present in this game. I could deal with a fixed player character, but no summons/invasions? Fuck that.

>>16189380

>as it was cheap and artificially difficult,

lol no it wasn't. You're just seething with asshurt, probably from being told to git gud too many times.

I played them because they were well-designed, fun games and punished mouth breathing tards like you who couldn't figure out how rolling works.

>>16189380

Now that is some projection.

>>16189219

>Because it has a more eastern aesthetic to it. Im not joking either. Normalfags will gravitate more towards western aesthetics than eastern despite the actual quality of the said eastern game. This happens more often than you might think.

Pretty much this. The 80s are over, normalfags don't care about Japan anymore. It also fails to grab soulsfags for reasons already stated (no invasions, no character creation). I don't think it will flop, but it won't do nearly as well as they hope it will.

Really lost a lot of enthusiasm for the format when it became annualised. I'm just now getting around to DS3.

>>16189118

>Ghost of Tsushima

I forgot this game even existed. This genre really is becoming oversaturated.

>>16189238

>enemies don't yell, express surprise, or look for backup

Uninspiring

>>16189121

Wew no griefers? Thanks anon, I'm pre-ordering it now.

>>16189403

There are a few places with artifical difficulty. Some bosses do dumb shit to lock onto you or shove multiple enemies in your face with a combat system not suited for it. There are a lot of things to complain about in a souls game and "git gud" isn't an argument to disprove them. I can be very good at a game and still not like a boss doing a 180 mid air to lock onto me or having a hit box that doesn't match it's on screen animation.

You're speaking almost exclusively about Dark Souls 2 with this paragraph. I'll gladly concede that DS2 has these elements–it's easily the worst Souls game. It was made by a different team with a different development lead, all of whom were talentless hacks who bought into the Souls difficulty meme propagated by western game journalists.

I never liked people who said "git gud" either. It's reductionist bullshit that stifles actual discussion of the game and its mechanics. All of the games in the series have their flaws, but dumb assholes like the one I was responding to who think every game is full of artificial difficulty or that the "zomg hardest game" meme was ever pushed by anyone but journalists and the normalfags who listen to them should choke on a dick.

>>16189484

I don't really think the "equal footing on physics" thing is a totally valid argument. By that token we should never have flying enemies in games where the player can't fly.

>>16189497

The lava castle above a windmill that people will never get over aside i think DS2 would have been more successful if like a Final Fantasy or Breath of Fire game, or even Bloodborne, it would have had no connection to DS1. The biggest mistake fromsoft made was trying to make this a linear narrative universe.

Think of the original story if you removed the REMEMBER DARK SOULS 1 shit that also was a large detractor to DS3:

>You are contact by an old woman, the emerald herald, to go back in time and stop the end of the world as everyone is going hollow

>You go from Things Betwixt to Majula and explore the kingdom of Drangleic during its collapse not centuries after.

>There is a magic throne that was stolen from the giants and this was all part of a plan by an evil eldritch horror that took the role of queen, only after sealing away the four devas of the realm as guards to prove the strength of a true heir the king secreted himself away to go hollow and take the thrones location with him

>The herald was made by a scientist under the orders of the queen to create a closed loop and pull potential chosen undead back in time but just to find the throne, hence why she shows up out of nowhere the moment the doors open to get you out of the way, many were pulled back and this closed loops repeated for a long time but this time around you ARE the heir to Vendrick and you defeat the evil, claim the throne and without any connection to the first flame or Gwyn you simply take the place of the giant king as the bearer of the curse that contains it within the throne rather than let it spread forever.

>The dark irony at the end is you took the journey because you were losing your memories of your family and simple life, but by sacrificing yourself as the new king on the throne that simple life didnt exist at all, but at least everyone else wont lose their memories.

You cut out the DS1 reliance and its a story about looping timelines, truly personal sacrifice and a foolish king who fell to the whispers of a shogthott which would have been a far more satisfying feeling then being the "canon, but only a little" idea in the same vein as DMC2, valkyria revolution or dirge of cerberus as a bastard child in the series.

FromSoft has never made a single good game.

>>16189538

It should have pushed the time collapsing side of things much harder. It's not a "time loop" as much as it's just dimensions falling apart, too old and rotten to sustain themselves. Hollowing isn't a revival mechanic, it's a dimension collapsing and a new one overlaying it. You're the same you from another timeline. Then all of the bullshit like the fire castle simply don't matter. The elevator leads you to another era of that area not just higher.

The only cross over I want is Patches. Patches is fun and a small cameo that doesn't hurt any one. He fucks you over, you kill/shop with him, repeat every game.

So what is this, the Dark Souls of Way of the Samurai?

>>16189098

Normalfags are waking up. They have been doing so for a long time now.

>simply having Activisions mark on the box as the western publisher?

Yes. Most consumers now know that Activision = scam.

I'm totally uninterested in the sengoku period at this point. It's over done. I know why japanese devs feel strongly about the time, but I'm bored of it. I might give it a pirate a few months from now, but with DMC5 coming up, I couldn't care less.

>>16189574

>The fag who came here to discuss video games doesn't like pedophiles.

Go figure pedo.

>>16189564

I think the original cut story was you going through different timelines and only the tree giants kept the idea around. Theres kid stuff like a young emerald herald that was meant to show up as the lab in the mountains was meant to be going into the past before the fall.

>>16189578

gb2resetera

>>16189597

You seem to know more about that place then me. I'll stay right here and keep calling you pedos out.

>>16189595

There's also the NPC woman who meets you out of order if you follow her story.

>>16189595

Yea I have a feeling they were just going to do it like demons and dark souls where each game was standalone but during early development one of the suits decided it needed to be dark souls 2 because of the succes and name recognition

>>16189636

Not played Nioh. The demo wasn't fun to me and it's too expensive to take a gamble on.

>>16189566

Don't you dare compare that masterpiece to Dark Souls

>>16189098

>Why do you think the buzz for this game is none existent?

Because it won't be Tenchu Z.

I hope Patches is a loli in Sekiro

>>16189650

Well, he's always been hairless so it would make sense.

>>16189151

It will also be more accessible for normalniggers thanks to literal pay to win microtransactions.

>>16189829

>its tenchu and onimusha!!!*

>*but the enemies are straight demons/ds1 reskins, shh!

>>16189574

I wanna swallow that cat thing whole. I imagine its gonna make me feel warm a fuzzy when I feel it struggling inside me.

>>16189401

I just watched a gameplay video of the demo I assume it was and he had shuriken, an axe and a flamethrower.

>>16189859

and ill do it again

>>16189842

i mean… theyre just onimusha enemies. tenchu enemies were just ninjas and this game has those as well.

>>16189883

This, I jack off to furry gay porn safely knowing I'm not gay.

>>16189883

Being gay isn't a crime, yet. So using 2D's as proof is out of the question, but being a pedophile is, yet 2D's are always used as evidence for it, you fucking retard.

If Activision’s name wasn’t attached to it I’d care.

>>16189900

>knowing I'm not gay.

ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>16189518

No that's too far of an extreme. Of course different enemies should have their own mechanics, but things like weapons passing through walls while yours clink off of them disrupting your attacks should be consistent.

In DS2 the invaders and NPC enemies straight up ignore the mechanics that you have to adhere to. Things like stamina, i-frames and stun lock are meaningless to them.

>>16190000

DS2 was filled to the brim with little things that made you question what the fuck the devs were thinking. Then they doubled down with the scholar version. Wouldnt call it a bad game but its not a diamond in the rough either, still a solid 7 which is more than can be said of most vidya.

>>16189911 (checked)

So you're basically admitting that 2D drawings of faggots are gay, thus destroying your own argument that lolishit isn't related to pedophilia? you should have said that yaoishit was meant for women while barashit is the one that's meant for faggots.

>>16189098

Samurai Japan just isn't an interesting setting unless you can be a white guy like in Nioh

>>16190030

>irish

>white

come on now

>>16189440

This would piss me off more than Bloodborne 2 never being made. Fuck gookshit

After the sad fart that was the second half of DaS3 I dont blame people for just forgetting about this, doubly so for the people who nare completely oblivious to Industry News and with no Souls in the title they'd probably just write this off as another cash in like The Surge

>>16189829

Because From Soft don't have a strong track record with combat. At least the past decade its just been Souls. Honestly, very basic combat combined with an RPG system that added some depth to characters. Those RPG mechanics became less connected with the combat as the games went on and eventually all we're left with is a roll fest and R1 spam. There isn't a lot to the Dark Souls enemies, they are all pretty much shades of melee attack = block, dodge or parry + counter attack/riposte or heal, buff your weapon. Sekiro is their first outing at a proper action game but I feel it will just be Souls with some stealth and grapple hook gimmick.

I will still play it and probably enjoy it a lot but I'm not really hyped for it either. Nioh outdid Souls combat with its complexity but due to its size and length the enemy variety was lacking. DMC, Bayonetta and more are far more fun action games but don't have the art and music that Sekiro have. It will be an interesting game at the very least.

>>16190199

i liked souls and bloodborne alot, but i think nioh burnt me out tbh… i cant enjoy these games anymore. and i never even played nioh, but i beat all the demos in excess and just felt… empty.

i think this formula in general is just tired and needs some innovation.

its like FPS games. fun for a while, but without innovation they just all feel the same.

>>16190214

you dont have to fuck a kid to be a pedophile. im sure most dont, and im sure most of them have never even seen cp.

most of them just jerk off to underage girls in youtube videos and look at underage celebrities on TV.

>>16190214

Pedophilia is the desire, not the action.

>>16190228

Homos ruin everything, i despise them more than jews.

>>16189643

Nioh is Dark Souls crossed with Ninja Gaiden.

>>16190264

I like the cat.

>>16189378

I definitely know his first videos is just ripping off cuckchan and not giving them credit.

>>16190623

>Implying cuckchan even deserves to be credited

>>16190639

Intellectual property is intellectual property.

>>16190657

intellectual property is imaginary

>>16190663

Yeah, because someone did the work to imagine it for you.

>>16190686

you cant own something that doesnt have a corporeal form, anon.

>>16189378

>lore videos

Let's call it what it is: fanfiction stolen from /dsg/

>>16190710

Why?

>>16189098

>Is anyone else surprised normalfags dont care about Sekiro?

No. Normalfags have no idea who makes games. They only go after brand names. If it was called "*something*SOULS" or "BLOODBORNE 2" then they would all be on board.

>>16190715

because its literally impossible to possess something that isnt physical.

how can property have no corporeal form? in what way is it still property?

>>16190737

they should have titled it "call of onimusha: the soulsening"

>>16190759

Is your mind yours? Do your memories belong to you?

>>16189143

>I saw so many people buy REmake 2 having never touched the series before going "OMG streamer HYPE!" and after playing it for 30 minutes all went "this shit is too hard!" and sold it again. I know plenty of people who save money entirely buying games on this second hand '6 hours out the store' market on places like craigslist and gumtree.

>These people don't like or play games very much at all. They are the people nu games journalists right for who don't talk about story in games but "lore" instead and will say "its a bit mean i have to "get good" at hollow knight to experience all its rich lore" as the game part is a chore to them. They want a wiki to talk about around the watercooler at work so to speak.

And here I assumed casuals at least played through a game. This however is like a whole new level of low.

>>16190781

my brain is mine. i am my mind. my memories are only mine because im the only one who can have them, currently.

if you were able to copy my memories, i would still have my memories. the copy would not belong to me.

this isnt complicated, anon.

>>16190818

Welcome to 80% of the western AAA industry's sales. I'm sorry you can never go back.

>>16190819

I value my privacy, and were my memories to be copied, they would still be mine.

>post explaining how loli and pedophilia aren't the same thing

>Gets deleted

Mark, please stop falling for resetera reports.

>>16190212

Point.

Let's put this another way: It's not interesting in the same way that the Souls/Bloodbourne aesthetic and setting was. Naturally, a different subset of people are going to be interested - souls people took a look, saw that it was set in historic Japan, shrugged and moved on, unfortunately, FROM was sort of counting on them to market the game for them.

I'm not saying it's not interesting, but the core demographic for this game likely doesn't know it exists, which is a shame.

>>16190864

"my memories are mine, but also that thing over there that resembles my memories that i didnt create or possess is mine"

it doesnt matter how much you value your privacy, its not yours. the memories that are yours are the ones in your head. the copy is not in your head.

>>16190889

If you obtained some copy of my memories and spread them around, I would be pretty pissed off and so would anyone else. Because they are mine, and even though you sharing them causes me no financial loss, they are still not yours to share.

>>16190199

I think they are trying to bring more depth to the combat system, I believe they understand that r1+roll spam DS formula is played out.

>>16190893

sharing a memory is as easy as telling it to someone. if you tell me a memory, its now in my mind and belongs to me. i can share it as i see fit. you dont own it you autistic retarded kike.

you must have a ton of kike blood to think you can monetize things that arent even tangible. KYS.

>>16190903

I'm about to monetize your face with my fist, faggot.

>>16190942

by your own standards, you are now a nigger thief. you should promptly kill yourself for being a nigger. after chopping off your dick for being a thief.

>>16190686

Imagining things isn't work, anon. Get a real job. Also, ideas are derivative. Otherwise you would be paying royalties to the people who came up with the English language.

>>16190948

Ah but by your standards, you don't own shit, goy, so how could I be a thief?

>>16190949

Royalties?

>>16189380

I actually started with Demon's Souls just because I thought the Japanese trailer looked interesting. Just because you were a casual that didn't hear of this series until the PC version doesn't mean that everyone is the same as you.

>>16189449

What genre? Cinematic shlock with shallow gameplay?

>>16191218

If they actually put effort into the remaster that would be a great idea. At this point I'd rather they finish the unfinished shit in Demon's for a remaster there.

>>16189238

It's just fucking Bloodborne

>>16190212

Souls games is part why I grew out of liking samurai stuff. Knightly settings are much more superior, and it took gooks to show it to me so much our own people hate themselves.

>>16191400

>gooks

>>16191443

Elevens then.

>>16189238

FROM are the real deal because they depend on word of mouth to be their marketing. Afterall it was just word of mouth that brought them to prominence from nowhere.

Also game won't bomb. DMC5 will obviously give it competition but I feel Sekiro will still be talked about 6 months from now and DMC5 will be forgotten.

I wonder how long this game is. I'm expecting something like MGR that you finish in 10hours or something.

>>16191266

>Cinematic shlock

true

>shallow gameplay

The sword combat looks fantastic to be fair. Realistic sword combat is something really rare, and to see how an AAA studio does it would be interesting.

>>16189238

>likely taking notes from Nioh

why the fuck would they take notes from anyone when they made fucking Tenchu? which is what everyone else took notes from?

know what they should really make? A new king's Field game.

>>16192557

Just make an Oblivion/Skyrim mod for that.

>>16192524

It's going to be bamham counter-attacks. I have little faith in it.

>>16189098

I'd say PS4 exclusive, but at the same time Bloodborne was pretty damn successful.

So i'd wager on the fact the game has to completely live up to singleplayer replayability standards when From Soft games usually live on from their multiplayer alone.

Wait From is making a new game, I thought this Seiko game was made by Sony

>Historical revisionist game with female samurai riding on horseback into war

No, they don't care about it, and you shouldn't either

>>16193048

Actually, I think I may have misread your post somewhat. The chained ogre is just a version of From's "giant humans", I doubt that that is an actual Oni, probably just a human hybrid. From has a pre-occupation with occult themes, if read you read between the lines, it's pretty clear that nephilim (ancient "giants" or "heroes" referenced in the bible, apocryphal sources and myth such as titans, norse giants etcetera) and their bloodlines are a recurring theme in From games, amongst other things that they shouldn't even know about, and they will want to make sure that Sekiro can fit in with soulsborne, to the point that it could potentially occupy a place in a unified timeline, and make sense in that universe.

>>16193062

>but it didn't invent Japanese mythology.

Oh I know. And I hoping that they'll be some inhuman monsters show up in Sekiro and it looks like there will be. It just seems that From is just playing things very close to the vest where as Nioh broadcast its youkai-rific status from the get go. Regardless I hope it does well.

>>16193108

they will show up if there is a monster in dark souls 3 or bloodborne withe the animation rig to support it.

>>16193256

>or bloodborne withe the animation rig to support it.

Well it looks like the great snake ball will at least finally make an appearance given the above picture.

>>16189143

>Question is why, after all the souls shilling, do they not care this time in particular. does bamco just have a better marketing team than activision nowadays?

It may be that they just don't know how to market the game. I'm sure they would like to draw in the built in market that From has built up but they know they can't just market it as Souls game #6 because it clearly has several significant differences.

>>16193264

>finally make an appearance

It already appeared though, it was just called the hydra.

>>16193271

the trick is that it does not matter that you are a recycle if you have not played the original

>>16193274

That and souls fatigue set in, it's been 4 games with little variation between them aside from setting. People don't really think from is going to do anything actually interesting… that and from hasn't marketed the game at all for whatever reason. which as much as I hate bloated as fuck marketing budgets, you should at least put something out there come on now from

>>16193278

I wonder how many Soulsfags just didn't play Bloodborne for one reason or another?

>>16193283

I didn't because I don't have consoles and can't play with a controller. I recently tried the playstation now trial to play it but I kept hitting the wrong buttons (I'm really not used to the shoulder buttons being attacks from playing 2d games and recently the onimusha remaster).. then I gave up

>>16193283

There are really two audiences for the souls games. The people who just want 3d castelvania and the latter audience that want to be part of a meme crowd. The latter seems predominantly pc leaning, back in the day people noted how 'artificial difficulty' as a searched term spiked on google the day DS1 got its PC release because it was a large number of people used to the absolute trash level of challenge that was the 2007-2009 videogame industry that was the most casual games ever got finding something that rewarded trial and error over 'cinematic gameplay' reliant on quicktime evens to progress, as was the style at the time.

The console crowd knew what they were in for from Demon's and so the 'this isnt for me' crowd had no interest in what was effectively a sequel to a 2008/9 release but for the pc crowd it was brand new and you saw a lot of people getting their sour grapes on because back during the buzz of Demon's Souls before souls games became mainstream it had this air of some kind of exclusive or elitist club and the same people you saw buttmad about bloodborne were no different back then.

Its something that legitimately triggers the fedoracore subset who think playing exclusively pc games makes them some ubermensch or something purely because its running on pc regardless of the game and its quality but the odds of having a pc over a specific videogame console is just much higher nowadays and probably skews the numbers. Then these people have no access to a console only game and why would you look into a game you can't play if you only care about the 'hardest game ever meh-may'? if you actually did care that much about the gameplay from a pure entertainment factor you would probably have ended up picking up a preowned console or borrowing one and as such would know better when DS3 was a massive recycle of a lot of its content.

But clearly the cross over wasn't in that significant a number as i remember playing DS3 on launch day and going "Wait a minute this whole section is a reskin of this section from Bloodborne, why aren't people bitching about how lazy this is?" and very few people were, probably because they simply didn't know.

>>16191847

>but I feel Sekiro will still be talked about 6 months from now and DMC5 will be forgotten

No way. DMC5 is a big game, treating itself as a send off to a beloved franchise. Its got a big budget, looks good and people are excited for it. It will have the free DLC update of Bloody Palace a little after Sekiro launches as well.

Sekiro is a game in a setting that is being overdone quickly. We had Nioh, then Sekiro got announced, then Nioh 2 and Ghosts of Tsushima at E3. There is a lot of samurai games coming and Sekiro will be lost among them. Take also that a lot of Soulsfags want their MP which Sekiro doesn't have, so they're tuned out. No character creation, more dedicated character action in that you are a fixed person with fixed stats and weaponry, not the freedom Souls allows. Finally, the game looks like Bloodborne/Dark Souls 3 when it comes to its combat. A series which had shallow combat to begin with and has been played out with its five games.

>>16193283

I'm willing to bet not that many, as most of the more vocal audience is on PC, it being PS4 exclusive probably killed it in their eyes.

>>16193312

I doubt dmc5 will survive 6 months given how mediocre the demo was, but sekiro certainly won't survive that long, I give sekiro about 3 months and then another month once it goes on super sale.

>>16193312

I don't know man, that setting is not so overdone considering most fantasy games are in some euro-medivalish world.

I'm pretty hyped for Sekiro, it kinda reminds me of Basilisk. I imagine there would be some fun ninja builds.

>>16193332

that picture is reaching really hard. That's like saying MGS3 is cannon with the souls games because you fight the boss in a field of flowers. It's a very classical setting for things like that

>>16193332

>the same stock moon photo but angled slightly.

wew lad.

>>16193380

I mean, it's not like the moon is gonna look different in any other photo. It always faces the same direction.

>>16193312

>Ghosts of Tsushima

That just looks like a mix of Arkham Asylum and the new God of War. Having Nioh 2 and Sekiro pop up at the same time though was hilarious, it made From look like they were trying to ape Nioh.

>>16193283

>one reason or another

the one reason is 'why pay 500 bucks for one game'

>>16193967

>i.e. Sekiro's setting is to Japan what Yharnam is to London.

Yes but Sekiro takes place in Japan. Bloodborne doesn't take place in Europe.

I care about Sekiro and fuck you for calling me a normalfag.

>>16193967

>this idiot thinks bloodborne is supposed to take place somewhere real

>being a Souls fan and thinking you aren't just another normalfag

King's Field sucked too.

>>16189098

It doesn't help that weaboo-ism is long dead and the backlash against anything samurai related is in full swing, to the point where people will seriously claim that Japanese armor was made of wood before the Portuguese taught them metalworking.

Add to that the recent surge of "Deus vult" "end him rightly with your pommel" westaboos and for next few years Japanese-themed games will either be ignored or cause butthurt.

>>16189118

Ghosts of Tsushima is going to bomb.

It's a generic sony "cinematic experience" game targeting an audience that doesn't exist and no one with an interest in the Mongolian invasions of Japan will be able tolerate how historically inaccurate it is.

>>16195046

Well having gone through the demo few times, I can safely say the entire game feels like a fanmod for DS3/BB to attempt to turn it into a tenchu game but failing. It's pretty mediocre the mechanics are really simplified and actually dealing damage is something that doesn't happen if you're playing the game well, instead you just deflect, do a dash when the popup tells you you can to 'counter' their attack to deal stance damage, and then when their stance bar fills up you deal an entire hp bar of damage. Bosses and harder enemies have multiple HP bars. Stealth attacks also deal one hp bar. Design wise it looks alright, controls smoothly enough except for trying to jump at enemies which is wonky as hell because jumping moves you in your real direction not your lock on direction if that makes sense. Healing is a little faster than BB and at least in the demo you have a free revive to half hp when you get killed.

It makes me want a real tenchu game, but this is some weird hybrid in between the two and it doesn't really work.

All this talk of Nioh and westaboos really makes me want a Western/European Nioh.

>>16195121

> weaboo-ism is long dead

Take one look at this board and say that again.

>>16189380

Dark souls 1 is a gem, 2 is fucking aids and everyone who says it's good deserves to be shot, 3 is ok.

The only games that were artifically difficult was the absolute aids that was dark souls 2.

>>16195592

I don't see anyone here wishing they were JApanese and want to move to Japan and Make games, manga and anime.

Do you even know what Weaboo means?

>>16195592

>Weaboo now means "people who play Japanese videogames".

For a term to have to mutate so much just to stay in use is telling.

>>16196080

>>16195895

Samething happened to the terms waifu and lolis too. Terms lose their meaning over time and warp. Welcome to connotations and language.

>>16196080

Edgy is another one, now it's basically just a codeword for "I'm offended"

>>16196102

Don't be exaggerated. Most terms stay relatively the same

It's the internet insults that change the most in the least amount of time. Another example is cuck.

>>16196080

it's gotten to the point that any game from Japan is now considered "weebshit" or "weeb garbage" even though those games were made by Japanese for the japanese otaku demographic.

they were not made by weeaboos trying to emulate japanerse shit like say, Neo-Tokyo, Fanime from the mid-2000's or almost evrey old webcomic out there made by middle schoolers who wanted to be KAWAII CARAMELLDANSES XDDDD

>>16195895

>I don't see anyone here wishing they were JApanese and want to move to Japan and Make games, manga and anime.

then you're fucking blind

>>16196504

It's called a figure of speech you autist.

>>16196510

you still haven't posted the evidence.

>>16196522

What do you want me to do? Go through archives and make caps? I'm playing busy actually playing games.

>>16196529

yes.

You said I'm blind to the posts, which means there are currently posts about people wanting to go to Japan and become mangakas and game devs.

if you make a statement, you should back it up.

Where are the posts?

>>16196550

Well I'm not gonna go fetch them.

>>16192981

>I really don't understand the apathy and cynicism surrounding this game.

<from soft game that isn't bloodborne or souls

<doesn't contain from's iconic multiplayer

<non-customizable player character, not even sure if there's other weapons or armor sets

<shown alongside a half dozen games like it, most of which looked better

Not a whole lot to be hyped for. It better be $40 at launch, I'm sure as fuck not paying full price for such a rigid single player game.

>the underlying chassis of souls combat that was/is beginning to get a little long in the tooth

How? It's a perfectly serviceable combat system. You either like it or you don't. What groundbreaking improvements could/should be made to bring it into the new era?

>strips out the pseudo-rpg shit of souls,

What are you talking about? That "pseudo-rpg shit" is what gave souls games their longevity. How many playthroughs do you think you'll get out of a fixed-character game, two? Maybe three? Five at most before shelving it for a year. Compare that to the dozens people get out of souls games, trying different stat and equipment combinations each time.

>>16196484

Even emulating Japanese media isn't bad or worthy of the weeb title either. The end result itself is what matters, not what it can be associated with. I can't think of any, but I would bet that the majority of actual weeaboo-developed content that is truly awful would be so no matter what the creator took influence from or paid homage to, likewise good work is good work nevermind how silly anon generalizes demographics.

t. NoDev working on secret game for fellow psx nipponese fans

>>16196559

Then why did you make up false claims?

You're not even willing to defend it and place the burden of proof on your laziness.

I'm going to assume you're one of those THQniggers that came here after the AMA because I have never seen such reddit-tier insolence and stupidity.

>>16196596

> I can't think of any, but I would bet that the majority of actual weeaboo-developed content that is truly awful would be so no matter what the creator took influence from or paid homage to

Neo-Tokyo is the bovious one that comes to mind.

most webcomics made by fujoshits in the early-mid 2000's count too.

Hell, most of the mid 2000s is where there were unironic weaboos, but most of them have died out into obscurity or become SJWeebs who worfk for Funimation

>>16196652

forgot embed

>>16196656

false equivalence.

You say it's an easily observable phenomena yet post no proof.

>>16196708

ok, show proof if it's so easy to show.

>>16196733

don't want to

>>16196742

Then your argument is invalid.

go back to reddit.

>>16196580

>From game that isn't souls

This is positive.

>doesn't contain multi player

Don't care, the only game in the series I played online all the way was Demon's Souls, an I've never been online with DS2 or 3. All I care about is the single player experience.

>non-customizable character

Mechanically, we already know that's not true since there are different arm load outs and some form of upgrades, and I believe different weapons can be picked up too not 100% sure about this though. Aesthetically, I'll be very surprised if there aren't different outfits, from knows how much people like their "fashion souls", and a set character has potential to really change up the "normal" story and lore routine that we're all used to by now, so I'm more than willing to give up "le randum ugly meme face xd" for that, though judgement will have to be reserved on execution until after the game's out.

>strips out pseudo-rpg shit

Of course character building and optimizing helps with a game's longevity, It's just that playing through DS3, I realized that it was beginning to wear slightly thin for me, I got to thinking that a version of Souls balanced around pure action gameplay could actually be a lot more fun. This may be down somewhat to personal preference, but I've always preferred to keep my action separate from my rpg. Give me either Ninja Gaiden or Temple of Elemental Evil. Souls games have handled the hybridization probably better than any other series that I've played, but I think I'd still rather see it go one way or the other.

>>16196745

Yeah, nah.

>NO RETARDED RPG SHIT

>NO STAMINA BULLSHIT

>ACTUAL FUCKING POISE AND POISE METER SHOWN FOR BOTH ENEMIES

<stealth gameplay

it might be the best meme souls game.

normalfags won't give a shit about the game until all the streamers start playing it and the OMG IT IS SO HARD GUYS ONLY PRO GAMERS PLAY THIS ITS LIKE THE CUPHEAD OF CARK MOLES

>>16196752

It really isn't the poise system also is just stamina but hidden. Blocking takes stance, and having low hp also decreases the rate at which stance recovers… unless they're an enemy in which case it either regens so slowly it might as well not move, or incredibly quickly. You stagger on every hit, enemies sometimes stagger depending on what they are. The stealth isn't so much stealth as it is "you can kill trash that dies quickly anyways". Sneak attacks don't kill shit that has more than one hp bar. It's pretty mediocre when it comes to stealth.

>>16196770

Depressing but probably true, but I also can't see this game being as popular with streamers since it's not multiplayer.

>>16196780

You realize that there may be upgrades to backstabs after the demo content right?

Also this line

>It really isn't the poise system also is just stamina but hidden

doesn't really make sense to me.

im going to buy it and im going to play it fuck you blackpill niggers

>>16196794

Basically blocking costs "stance" as opposed to stamina now. Deflecting (aka hitting it with decent timing) decreases the cost. Having an attack deflected or blocked also costs stance. Getting hit costs stance, attacking costs stance. Tools do not cost stance, but they're combo-openers not closers. These rules only sometimes apply to bosses. It's basically just a hidden stamina bar. There's no reposting or counter attacks really, there's instead a system where a kanji appears on an unblockable attack telling you to either jump or dash into the enemy based on the attack, this negates the attack and causes additional stance damage. For example an enemy does a forward stab that has a kanji, dashing into it will make you step on the weapon and then be thrown off, which for some reason causes the enemy so much emotional distress his stance decreases as much as if you just hit him once.

Also from the demo the boss proper will always start off hostile and knowing where you are so you can't sneak attack him. The boss in the demo also has a phase transition that makes him able to be sneak attacked, but it really feels tacked on and doesn't really make sense "okay he walked to the center of the bridge and is… somehow able to be drop attacked now"

>>16196794

oh and something annoying, enemies will not die when you decrease their HP to zero depending on the enemy. You have to break their stance and do a cinematic hit/kill. To drain the demo boss's first hp bar for instance you need to break his stance and do the break kill which does depletes his current hp bar no matter how much hp he has left.

Dark Souls is literally for femdom/BDSM fanatics.

>>16196869

>have to do le ebin cinematic finishers on enemies to actually kill them

Oh boy, we're reaching beyond NuDoom levels right now.

>>16196869

oh and to expand on this, it means tools are of incredibly limited use during boss fights because they do hp damage… which doesn't fucking do anything except slow down the rate at which they recover stance

>>16196831

Thanks for the clarification, it seems the difference is that a successful attack has no cost. >>16196869

That does sound like it could be annoying. Hopefully it's not overdone.

>>16196876

This is a thread about Sekiro, 4ummer. Go back.

>>16196868

I'm also buying it.

>>16196900

No attacking does cost stance. It's just negligible unless you're at low hp, in which case your recovery basically stops

>>16196900

I don't care if you buy it, I care when you start thinking it's worth coming in here to make a post like that. It reeks of cuckchan shitposting.

>>16196550

tbh i do wanna become a mangaka and game dev

fuck moving to japan, but drawing touhou doujins seems fun

>>16196950

Yeah it's unfortunate, but it feels like a tenchu game that's being held back by from needing to make it a souls game. There's so much that almost works but is held back by the engine. not to mention they reuse animations from DS3/bb but that's a minor gripe.

>>16189098

No funny U DED so hard meme this time around. Maybe if they called it Dark Souls: Japan it would have more buzz.

>new Dark Souls game set in Japan and why that's a good thing

>you won't believe the new Japanese setting in Dark Souls

>gay streamer: "wooooah look at all the ninjas, this game is so hard, I died haha"

I personally care so little about Sekiro I only noticed the thread once it had 240+ replies.

>>16196580

>How many playthroughs do you think you'll get out of a fixed-character game

Have you not actually played a single pre-hd console action game before? Ninja Gaiden, DMC, anything? Having a dedicated single character with a smaller set of abilities has the benefit of giving the developer more time to work with them. The 9 or so weapons you get in Ninja Gaiden have a more robust moveset and variation than every single weapon in Dark Souls 1. Shinobi only has a single combo string and I still prefer it. Dark Souls has dried peoples brains over the idea that a game isn't worth playing if it doesn't have a hundred weapons and a full stats system for weapons, armor, rings and spells. Sometimes less is better, we're just going to have to wait and see if they've taken advantage of that.

>>16197067

Issue is going by how the demo felt, it's just a standard souls character. There's nothing crazy you can do.

>>16189098

As far as I can remember the games haven't been popular among normalfags since around Bloodborne. It was around that time the "toxic" community of Dark Souls became the talk of the normalfag circuits, largely due to Bloodborne being insanely popular among streamers, who after playing Bloodborne went on to try the other games and sucked horribly at them. Around this time a whole lot of streamers were revisiting Dark Souls as a result, and most of them were awful at it, so people made their jokes and had their laughs.

However, streamers are the biggest passive aggressive pansies on the planet and cannot handle the mildest form of banter, so they would go on and on about how "toxic" the Dark Souls community was by comparison, and their fans ended up just parroting this, after which it spread to the general normalfag population. Now there had always been people who hated the Dark Souls community, and it wasn't exactly the best to begin with, but it was around this time it really kicked into overdrive among the larger normalfag population due to the prevalence of streamers, and the games simply haven't been very popular among normalfags since.

I would guess as a result of this they tried to tone down the aggressive advertising, which doesn't seem to have helped. These games just aren't trendy anymore, which could be a good thing.

>>16197104

You couldn't do Izuna Drops or much else in the beginning of Ninja Gaiden either.

>>16197174

no I mean the system just isn't built for it. Pure damage is useless so you can't even do anything combo wise because deflecting/dashing drains stance, and enemies at 0 hp don't necessarily die. Even if it was there, it'd just be a cinematic kill event which is even worse than just not having it.

>>16196128

Edgy has never changed. It's just trying to act badass and ending up looking ridiculous.

>>16197616

Is that cave you've been living in nice and cozy?

Edgy has been shorthand for "I'm offended" and "I don't like this" since redditors on halfchan in 2010 started using it that way.

I suspect you're one of them, faggot.

>>16189238

That looks horrible.

>Quiet ambient music as you explore

<BAAAAAM

I just love massive volume spikes in my stealth gameplay. That and as >>16189450 said nothing interesting happens, take Kingdom Come for a recent example on how to have enemies patrol, gather, hunt, and act.

Honestly It looks like a paint by numbers how to make a modern AAA game, incredibly blatant openings, overly exageratted effects and sounds to "satisfy" players, linearity but enough open space to disguise it, HUD is often filled with "Jump here" icons, random miniboss' "difficulty" is it doing half the players health in a single hit while having three health bars, add to that the tutorial popping up in the middle of the fight

>yo retard your health is low, did you know you can use items, here's how

Why would they decide to do the opposite of what so many praise them for?

Of course there's the reskinned enemies and animations, generic "epic" music, cinematic bullshit, etc.

Can't wait to see the shills defend this one.

I don't give a shit about Soulskiro. I just want my Armored Core.

Make a new IP, you hacks! Something about fog would be so refreshing.

>>16190818

What. No. This has been already mapped and researched, turns out, the majority, vast majority of the people that buy video games never played them. And in the case of Steam, much less so. It's estimated that Steam's userbase has around 95% of people who constantly buy games, but never even have LAUNCHED the fucking thing. Those people that buy over 200+ games, and the funny thing is, they have thousands of hours in the most basic bitch normalfags of games, like your typical BR, CSGO, "Survival" game. Only about 5-maybe-4% of the Steam population actually buys, plays and most of all, FINISHES the fucking game with a wide variety of other genres. Most people are Steam are over-socialized normalfags, they take more pride and enjoy more building their Steam profile, caring about XP, their badges, trading cards, profile look instead of actually playing video games. It's like that other guy says, the number of people that play video games is extremely inflated and the vast majority and I would say 98% really aren't fans of video games, it's just something they do because it's big now and because they can socialize with other people. It's social preening in a sense, they the concept of what comes from owning something new and talking about it with friends and the initial spark, but don't really look and the video game or play and enjoy for themselves or for what it is, they just do it for social attention.

>>16198121

Played Kings field 2 and on.

Basically you run around, collect shit, wonder if you are even supposed to be there or are sequence breaking half of the time, and realize a good deal of the lore in souls is lifted from it.

Slowass stamina in the beginning means melee combat is the old 3d dungeon crawler hit-and-away shuffle most of the time.

Shadow tower is pretty much the same thing, except for a few gimmicks like paying for things with your HP.

Overall I'd say its alright, if you can get past the monotonous looking mazes and really early PSX era graphics.

>>16193300

I agree with most of your argument. Especially that casual people have almost completely taken over the PC market, and most Master Race are nothing more than hardware enthusiasts that like to see their PC have over 2000 LED lights with every color imaginable. Again, it's another crowd that doesn't care about video games, but the surrounding aspects of the hobby. However, weren't the console crowd also steeped in massive casual shit, especially from 07-09?

>>16193300

>>16198345

PC market is not what is used to be. It's full of bugmen Steam Faggots. Remember that meme that shows how Reddit fags define themselves not be their actions, but by their consumerism? They think they are superior because of their "refined" tastes in related to what they spend their money on. Think of all the wide mouthed selfies they take in front of craft beer and mechanical keyboards. Now pc gaming is buying a $400 pc and getting cheap shit on steam sales. Don't get me wrong I have a big steam account, but it's not the same. People get banned from Steam or whatever for calling people niggers and faggots. Plus a lot of PC games are shit console ports. IDK what I'm trying to say except that a lot of the PC community are a bunch of faggots now, and you need to suck steam DRM spyware dick.

>>16198516

You only need steam for multiplayer.

Every singleplayer game will be cracked at some point and even if you are a buyfag then GoG is a thing.

>>16198522

Occasionally you can even play pirated multiplayer. MHW has the option if you spoof a different steam app ID. You only get to play with other pirates though.

>>16198265

Holy shit one of these days the market is going to crash massively hard when normalfags move onto the next social fad. That simply cannot continue.

>>16198516

The PC market had it's big shift in again, 07 or 08. The DESIGN PHILOSOPHY of how games were made in that platform changed. What started happening is that console ports started to appear more on PC and started to sell more. People don't understand the inherent difference between designing a game on PC or on console, they think it's all the same and don't take into account the huge difference the way you control a game can make. Not to mention that games today only appeal to teenager's ego and aren't about challenge and fun anymore, at least most of them aren't.

>>16198536

Of course, nothing lasts forever and the medium will eventually decline until something else comes along. Last time I checked, I believe the video game industry as a whole weren't started to flat-line and have a small decline compared to previous years in the recent report. I don't know if that will keep up.

>>16198590

Yeah it's not a good practice to have. Personally, I stopped caring about beating a game or getting to the finish line as quickly as possible. These days I just play, make the game as much enjoyable and challenging as I can and see where it goes. I've been blasting through games this way. As for Steam, I was the same way, I don't have much Steam games or digital games for that matter since I prefer physical. I keep going back to the PS2 and Xbox and might eventually have a Gamecube, and the stark contrast in the games are massive. Not to mention that you open the case, pop the disc in and go right into the game. No gimmicks, no installation, no patches, no internet connection required. Just straight into the game. Man, what a time we lost.

>>16195121

>It's a generic sony "cinematic experience" game targeting an audience that doesn't exist and no one with an interest in the Mongolian invasions of Japan will be able tolerate how historically inaccurate it is.

It's too bad that such a name was wasted like this though. From the name itself I was expecting a game about Russo-Japanese war which brought me even more disappointment. Instead it just looks like an absolute dogshit and this is the most generic usage of Tsushima I've ever seen, not that anyone uses the word so often and for unrelated Russo-Japanese war content.

I would have liked a Dark Souls Zero

>play as a Knight of Gwyn

>Bro it up with Ornstein Smogh Artorias and Havel

>hunt down dragons

>return to Gwynevere's embrace after

>make fun of her faggot brother

>>16201839

>mostly shitposting about how nioh was either better or worse, how souls needs to break into a new IP, or talking about weebshit

I honestly just want bloodborne 2; bloodtinge boogaloo where they make bloodtinge an actually useful stat and give it an association with powderkegs and guns and fire.

>>16202289

Executioner's gloves should honestly scale with bloodtinge, they are bloodmagic. If wheel scaled with bloodtinge I would hardly be salty.

Look at all these normalfaggots that play fromsoft baby easy games

lmao

>>16202560

but he's actually historically accurate. In fact when presented before nobunaga, he was ordered to be washed because Nobunaga thought he was just a guy covered in ink

>>16202560

The guy from Nioh was an actual real life samurai that was a retainer under Nobunaga. As for the guy in the OP I'm not certain if he's truly black or not.

>>16202575

Anon there were a few brought over. Nobody is trying to say to flood japan with niggers, or that they were flooded with niggers. Nobunaga had a black man serving under him.

>>16202575

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke

Ahem.

>>16202560

In the game it's handled okay though, William pretty much goes "What the fuck is a nigger doing here" and like with every other honorabru samurai you defeat he tells you his life story and gives you his spirit animal thing. No we wuz samurai shit, just some random nigger Nobunaga bought because it was a fun idea at the time.

>>16202560

Join us in the Japanese learning thread and there will be enough new games and classics that never came to the west to last a lifetime.

>>16202542

I rocked that guys armour set and GS because of my axe build.

>>16202681

That's right, we should only trust our feelings.

>>16202776

People always traveled. It's not the craziest thing for a single black guy to end up somewhere you wouldn't think. The fuckery is when they start claiming that they were just everywhere all along, and as much a part of any culture as anyone else.

>>16202849

>there might have been statistically insignificant nigger/tranny/stronk womyn presence in a region in the hundreds of years of history so every depiction of the period is fine to be filled to the brim with the aforementioned groups

>>16203119

I said people traveled. People with slaves.

>>16203235

Negate that, too many browsers..

>>16203146

It's literally the guy.

https://koei.fandom.com/wiki/Yasuke

Whether he was a real person, or a figure from folklore, it still makes every bit of sense for him to appear in a fantasy version of Japan.

>>16202567

Reminds me of how a Dutch ship in the 17th century stranded in Korea. They almost got lynched because the locals thought they had some terrible plague causing their skin to be weirdly coloured. Not a really strange reaction. Luckily a local magistrate had read descriptions about white devils so they were saved.

>>16189569

>I know why japanese devs feel strongly about the time, but I'm bored of it

Yeah as a European cowboys and the Wild West aren't interesting. Each culture has their own fixation. Here its WW2 and the occupation.

>>16196748

BTFO

>>16203617

None to be found Vaati. Better starting sweating.

>>16203581

>I am a soulsfag

<can stomach Surge's combat

Bullshit. Bulllllllllllllshit

>>16203911

What about it looks good? The combat system is based entirely around draining stance so you can get a sick CINEMATIC KILL?

>>16205398

Isnt it just AC3 combat? You're just spamming the counter button until the enemy is dead? I wish from would stop with the predictable movesets for players. You either roll dodge or parry but with Sekiro instead of roll dodging you spam parry.

>>16205413

I’ve watched a few videos and spamming parry doesn’t seem to get you terribly far with anything other than the starter enemies. Seems like with the midboss that’ll get you killed pretty quick. This video gets more in depth with the combat, but it’s miserably hard to find much high skill gameplay as most of it is from (((journalists))) who can’t play vidya.

>>16205028

The Surge's combat is fine, only problem is slide attacks are OP and ducking/jumping is unreliable.

>>16205422

And actually, from this interview it sounds like the combat is going to be closer to MGR.

>>16205398

Except the issue is that nothing you do matters except for the cinematic kill. The combat itself has an extremely optimal way to play it with absolutely no variation allowed.

>>16206244

The "cinematic kill" just looks like a more polished version of Bloodborne's parry-into-visceral to me but I don't guess I can really comment on it until I have the game actually in hand.

>>16205398

>About the only thing that looks very questionable is the new death system in which you can just jump back up and fight the boss again. I feel like this is going to significantly shorten the game and make the encounters way less tense.

It really all depends on how it's handled.

>>16206258

It isn't. It's the only way to kill enemies without them getting up at 0 hp. You're 100% required to do it to bosses to progress them to their next phase too. It's not even a parry, it's more of a stamina break.

It's shit

>>16206258

oh right, as a side note the "jump back up and fight the boss again" move has limited charges that get refilled at resting points that totally aren't bonfires. You also don't recover resources when you get back up. It's an incredibly dumb move I don't understand why it's there.

>>16206270

Oh hey the Wet Nurse is back.

>>16206263

>It's the only way to kill enemies without them getting up at 0 hp.

>You're 100% required to do it to bosses to progress them to their next phase too.

How are those things fundamentally bad though?

>>16206279

Because enemy hp no longer matters. it's only the stamina bar

>>16206277

So it's basically just innate Tears of Denial?

>>16206285

Basically? You also start at half hp. Really the reason I'm guessing it's there is because at low HP you regen stance so slowly you can't block or attack with any rhythm and it's there as a "suicide" to reset you to half hp. It's an awful system though

>>16206299

Right I forgot to mention that falling into a death pit only costs about a third of your max hp and just resets you. Bonus points what he didn't show on that boss is if you jump off around halfway on the bridge the boss will reset and you'll be close enough to "sneak attack" it and skip the entire second hp bar

>>16206283

There are no stamina bars

I never got myself into Dark Souls. Started playing 1 multiple times through the years, but never completed probably even 1/5 of the game. It was okay, but eventually I just drop it. It is not even as hard as it is memed to be.

Tried Nioh too. Perhaps on some level I liked it more. I did like it is faster, though it had even more jankness perhaps. The fact the game was 80GB, but you could compress it to 20GB on W10 triggered me a lot too. Especially because I couldn't use the same compression method on W7. I did do more autistic stuff in Nioh, replaying levels to get the perfect scores. Eventually I just dropped it too. Never managed to get much excitement from either games.

>>16206270

Instead of big ebin opponents with big and slow swings, can't you have human enemies that actually can use the skills you do or something equally as strong and fast? Might do for a more god damn challenging and fun experience when you are fighting equals and not big strong guys that are really not as dangerous and scary as the developer wants you to think.

>>16206449

Sorry the totally renamed not stamina bar, the stance bar. See unlike the stamina bar it goes up on attacking, blocking, and getting hit. When it runs out/gets full you can then unleash a… only way to actually kill bosses attack on the immobile opponent!

he stamina bar goes down on attacking, blocking, and dodging. And when it runs out you can unleash a shitty attack on an opponent

>>16206244

Well, we can see two different ways to tackle the corrupted monk boss. In this video >>16205422 the perfect blocks and parry’s lead to a quicker “crit” or death blow, but in >>16206270 the player plays it safer and dodges but it takes longer to crit the enemy. I also imagine if you don’t get the death blow it’ll just deplete the enemies health bar into the next.

>>16193030

That's ghosts of sushi, the soystation exclusive.

>>16206798

It doesn't. It won't move on until you crit blow him.

>>16206837

I should clarify for actual bosses in that statement. Normal enemies will get up at 0 hp and require another combo or so until they die, minibosses sometimes require more hits? It's insanely fucking inconsistent on minibosses in general. But bosses after 10 combos when it was at 0 hp didn't move on to the next phase, and at that point I was purposefully having to avoid the counter so I'm going to say that they don't.

>>16206867

Then yeah, I guess like the other anon said we’ll have to wait and play it to see how annoying that mechanic is or how it works, but the actual combat portion looks pretty solid imo. Either way I’ll be busy with DMC5 so I’m in no rush.

>>16207346

It's extremely annoying and completely kills the flow of combat against multiple targets

They'll start picking it up when their favorite meme streamer starts playing it.

>>16206867

>Normal enemies will get up at 0 hp

That's not fucking true at all, once their health reaches 0 they're dead. Posture breaking is only required for the actual boss which is a good thing because it forces you to play aggressively as the boss' posture will recover if you hold back for too long.

>>16207971

Isn’t the enemy pool fairly small? I’ve been thinking of getting it for years but I’m worried you see most of what you’re going to within the first several levels.

>>16208125

>>16206867

Here's some proof so that you don't have to take my word for it. It's at 00:22:30 in case the timestamp doesn't work in the embedded video. As you can see the enemy dies normally without a finishing move.

>>16208134

There's certainly fodder, but every level has a few enemies unique to it, as well as unique bosses.

>>16207971

Loot is RNG crap, environment tilesets are reused far too often, characters/events will require a lot of real world study to understand fully, and the best combos for guardians can't be used till the very very end game. Oh and the last DLC mission just ends the game abruptly once it's over. No satisfying closing of the book. Just William in text saying post mission he's going to an island with Hanzo. That's really really under whelming.

>>16208171

Video is unavailable, got anything else? I want to believe

>>16208247

The video itself is fine but it seems like the site can't embed it properly. Anway, here's the link: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/389402345?t=22m29s

I don't really understand what's wrong with the finishing moves though, but to be fair I also love the Obliteration Techniques from Ninja Gaiden 2 which are basically the same thing.

>>16208172

worth 21 bucks?

>>16208546

I'd say yes but it does have its problems.

>Pop up tutorials appear for every single item, gadget, ability, and gizmo you collect throughout the ENTIRE game

>No levelling up mechanic. Instead, there's a westernized brainlet talent tree that will act as the "rpg" system

>If you fall off a cliff into a bottomless pit the game will just insta respawn you back to the perch you were on, no penalties besides a tiny slice of your health taken off. Just like Guacamelee!

>The game is SO casualized that there is a mechanic which gives the player 2 lives. If you die, you literally have the option to just respawn right where you are and try again. There are no penalties for doing this. If you end up dying twice, you just respawn back at the last idol you rested at, and again, dying comes with no punishment. And there are plenty of idol checkpoints scattered everywhere, so you'll never have to worry about a long haul back

>No weapon variety, you will be using the EXACT SAME katana throughout the ENTIRE campaign. This also means NO upgrading and it means NO infusing. Just one weapon, at one single stat, for the entire game.

>Standard everyday Dark Souls items like fire bombs, pine resins, throwing knives, luring skulls, etc, have been placed on a pedestal in Sekiro and glorified as "Metroidvania" style equipment you will be unlocking throughout the game. How exciting! You can look forward to applying fire on a katana, or unlocking throwing knives to throw at enemies! Wow! Ground breaking!

>The only truly new mechanics in the game are jumping and the hook shot, which look flimsy and unpolished

>Gameplay has been reduced to button mashing with a parry system

>Multiplayer is NONE EXISTENT in Sekiro. That means NO summoning, NO covenants, NO fight clubs, and as a result, NO community, and NO replay value. There is absolutely no multiplayer at all in Sekiro.

>There is no currency in game, because there are no shops, because there is nothing to purchase at all. The world is empty.

dead on arrival, not up for debate

>>16208896

I can't help myself, I have to take the bait

>>Pop up tutorials appear for every single item, gadget, ability, and gizmo you collect throughout the ENTIRE game

you mean the entire demo

>>No levelling up mechanic. Instead, there's a westernized brainlet talent tree that will act as the "rpg" system

So DMC, Ninja Gaiden etc. are brainlet games as well?

>no penalty for dying/respawning

it's not known at this point

>no weapon variety

that's why there's upgardes and the shinobi tools, of which we have only seen the most basic versions. Again, there's currently no way to tell whether it's only basic projectiles and buffs or if there is anything more advanced

>The only truly new mechanics in the game are jumping and the hook shot, which look flimsy and unpolished

it was pretty responsive in the demo which is 6 months old by now. It's probably been polished some more

>no multiplayer

who gives a shit, the MP in Souls games has always been trash, go play fighting games if you want proper PvP

>no currency

also not true, it has been confirmed that there is going to be currency in the game

>>16208938

>So DMC, Ninja Gaiden etc. are brainlet games as well

I'm finding a good deal of the complaints people level at Sekiro wind up just sounding like "It's like action games before Demon's Souls came out". There's plenty to be wary about, but people are also complaining about things that have been always been a staple of the genre. A complaint about the lack of multiplayer, stats and weapon upgrading doesn't mean as much to people who loved the genre before those things very quickly became expected from it.

I think at least part of this can be blamed on the pc fanbase for Dark Souls, since a lot of them never did actually play console action games before. Things that seem strange and new are just old and reliable concepts.

>>16208546

If it's the complete version, do it.

>>16208450

Those are super trash enemies. It can and will happen as long as an enemy has more than one hp bar. Even sometimes if the hit that kills them also staggers them which is extremely common with shield enemies.

>>16209755

>Those are super trash enemies

>moving the goalposts

So? Who cares if they're trash mobs? You wrote:

>Normal enemies will get up at 0 hp

That's clearly not the case.

>>16209839

except they do, a lot.

>>16208896

>Pop up tutorials appear for every single item, gadget, ability, and gizmo you collect throughout the ENTIRE game

That's clearly just a tutorial level. Even Nioh had that shit in the Tower of London.

>>16189143

Oh and you know about how the industry works right !

Sekiro actually seems to be among the top seller list on steam currently. Will probably go even higher when it is sooner to release. Maybe it won't bring the Dark Souls sales, but it might do well enough.

Here's 20 minutes of new gameplay from the final game and guess what it proves everything I said yesterday.

>there's money and XP

>you'll lose some of it permanently for every death without the ability to get it back

>there's also a mechanic called Dragonrot which supposedly effects the world in some way depending on how many times you resurrect, similar to World Tendency in Demon's Souls

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/391252428?t=34m45s

>>16211764

Well turns out there actually is. From the footage I've seen it looks like you gain one skill point per level-up which can then be used to unlock new Sword Arts and other abilities, there don't seem to be any attributes to increase though.

>>16212261

I just like how it's sounding closer to a legit action game with each bit of information. I wonder how stylish the combat can look with somebody who knows what they are doing.

>>16213555 (checked)

>I wonder how stylish the combat can look

If the footage we have is anything to go by, it's gonna be a gorilion variations of the final scene of Tsubaki Sanjuro.

But yeah, now that we know there's a skill tree for both sword and prosthetic arm, the game might have more depth than it appeared to have at first.