1c75f6 No.16076530
What are you playing, RPGbros? Looking forward to a game this year?
b898de No.16076544
Aren't you too old to be playing make believe anon?
544094 No.16076550
>>16076530
That's not a CRPG.
1ed859 No.16076623
Is it odd to hate Fallout but love Arcanum? Because I could never get into the former but I played the latter last year and it was fucking great.
0c35fa No.16076638
Grimoire. The madman finally released the manual.
55fa95 No.16076653
>>16076638
Let me guess: it's over nine thousand pages long, written in pig latin and you need a different manual to understand it?
193b62 No.16076659
Does an RPG need stat bars and skills to be an RPG? Some faggot in the Metro thread claims you don’t.
55fa95 No.16076808
>>16076659
Beats me. Would stalker count? You've got gear progression, quests with choice and consequence but no obvious skills to rise or muh stat bars.
0c35fa No.16076862
a936b1 No.16076901
>>16076862
puzzle rpgs no thanks
87a96a No.16076946
At the moment I'm playing Atom RPG and I'm having a good time with it. Reseted the game around 4 times though because I can't decide what build I want to go with.
Aside from that I'm on the lookout for three games:
>Underrail Expedition
I really liked Underrail. Although it's pretty lackluster and linear story wise aside from teaming up with the oligarchs at Core City it has good combat and a pretty neat world. I stopped my play-through in anticipation for the expansion. I just want my time PSI and shotguns
>Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones
This is a CRPG I think I'm going to wait a little while before I buy it. I'm a sucker for Lovecraft but the artstyle is avarage and I'm not really sure how I feel about the game mostly being 2D. I think I'll pirate it first.
>Black Geyser: Couriers of Darkness
Haven't seen nor heard a lot about the game. It looks like a game made in the Infinity Engine and had a kickstarter that was pretty successful but other that that I don't know much about the game.
55fa95 No.16077009
Speaking of RPGs, anyone gave related a proper go? I gave it a shot but something about it just didn't click for me.
1c75f6 No.16077274
>>16077009
>I gave it a shot but something about it just didn't click for me
What didn't you like about it?
6314fa No.16077282
>>16076623
No. Had Arcanum but not as buggy it would probably be held as one of THE best CRPGs ever made. Well, more than it already is if you overlook some design flaws.
>dat feel when having both real-time and turn-based combat was a last minute change and left both modes untested properly
6314fa No.16077287
>>16077009
it's definitely a game that doesn't handhold you or insult your intelligence. on the flipside, it's also the kind of game if you stop playing for a week you're basically lost because it expects you to remember and pay attention.
a0b61f No.16077302
>>16076530
I'm playing Jade Empire right now and I kinda feel stupid that I managed to never pickup on the fact that it's an action game. I always thought it was gonna be like KotR where you line up moves in tick based combat.
Closed fist dialogue is great.
55fa95 No.16077307
>>16077274
It's a cop out answer but something. Does it get more interesting once you dig in more or what? In theory I should love it; the graphics, the fact that you're a fucking god of death in corporeal form out for vengeance. The whip based combat.
>>16077287
I've got notepads to spare.
1ed859 No.16077495
>>16077302
The closed fist/open palm system annoyed me in that game. They talk it up and try to act like it's not just a good/evil divide like in most RPGs, but they lied and it's just standard Bioware Jesus vs Edgelord Megadick.
I really wish Jade Empire had turned out less mediocre because there are so few chinese-themed RPGs out there.
a461ee No.16077522
>>16077495
Alignment powers are apparently not particularly good and the last choice is the only one that matters, is that true?
55fa95 No.16077571
146013 No.16077577
>>16076623
it's my favourite game in all honesty, nothing comes close to its setting other than fallout.
>tfw you're so niggered up with magic you aren't even allowed to ride the back of the bus
b1a14c No.16077854
>>16076623
No, I share your opinion. Arcanum is a truly great game and has a wonderful character, atmosphere and setting. It's better written, paced and just a better game overall.
a461ee No.16077871
>>16077571
So then why do I keep seeing the ending choice specifically being called out for making your alignment irrelevant?
79400e No.16077889
>>16076623
Arcanum is amazing, and I consider it much better than Fallout 1 & 2. And i have been replaying it now for like the fourth time using the Multiverse Edition patch, which is good, except that with some time playing, it makes my PC bluescreen. Anyone had or still have this problem with the edition? Any solution?
b1a14c No.16077894
>>16076638
Always believe in Cleve. Now trying nukes just need to start falling and his doomsday prophecies will come true too. Tension between Russia and the US over that kind of stuff recently might just lead to that.
Anyway, is the game on GOG now?
0c35fa No.16077954
>>16077894
Soon.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/grimoire-2-0-0-12-update-available-now.125990/
>I got banned from Steam specifically for making a joke about the military being staffed by trannies now. It was a unilateral decision by one auditor who deleted the comment and then put a two week ban on any community posts by me, including announcements. No warning, no caution, no dialogue. Just millennial avoidance. I just got an alert telling me I was banned two weeks, no other explanation.
>P.S. Going to be launching on many other distribution sites this month. Likely to be up on Itch.IO soon and many others.
b1a14c No.16077996
cb1b6a No.16078029
>>16076623
No, I don't hate Fallout but I prefer Arcanum by a fair amount. One of the great things about it is it's subtlety. Arcanum is probably one of the darkest RPGs ever made with out being "grimdark" at all. It rarely goes over the top like most others do.
1ed859 No.16078242
>>16078029
>Arcanum is probably one of the darkest RPGs ever made
Gnomes deserve the rope.
391a3b No.16078272
>>16076623
I don't hate fallout, but I've played Arcanum from beginning to end at least half a dozen times, and I've not managed to finish either Fallout, though I've tried both.
1c75f6 No.16078312
Are the KOTOR games still worth playing? I've been going through the old classic RPGs I never played as a kid, Neverwinter, the first two fallout games and new vegas, Baldur's and ever some new ones like Pillars. Plenty on my list still, so I may want to cut some.
7100ac No.16078328
>>16078312
First one is neat as it's a piece of old Bioware that we'll never see again and it lays out the setting and history for the second game. You can still play the second without the first, but some references could be lost. The second one I highly recommend to anybody interested in video games at all.
1ed859 No.16078330
>>16078312
Yeah, they still hold up pretty nicely. Just make sure you get the restored content mod for KOTOR II, it changes it from a broken unfinished mess to a less broken and slightly unfinished but excellent game.
1c75f6 No.16078373
>>16078312
I recommend them all by the way, except Baldur's gate. It's too dated by now, I think. Even the first fallout game was smoother and more enjoyable to play. I've also recently played the first Dragon Age. Despite the combat being quite good, it got incredibly boring by the last third. The problem was with the roleplaying aspect and dialogue. I never got options to handle situations the way I wanted to. Many of the quests were pretty barebones and lazy. Haven't had this problem with the others.
>>16078328
>>16078330
Thanks, dudes.
e913fc No.16078617
>>16078373
>I never got options to handle situations the way I wanted to.
Could you expand on that? what did you want to do that you couldn't in the endgame?
4f4876 No.16078668
>>16076862
Oh shit, the manual finally came out? I missed that news.
06ca59 No.16078720
>>16078272
I've finished Fallout 1 and 2, I enjoyed it quite a bit but I started with Fallout 3 so the world was familiar. I've started a few games of Arcanium but never got past the first town.
1c75f6 No.16078792
>>16078617
It's been years now since I played it, so I'm having trouble with specifics. I wasn't talking exclusively about the last third of the game. In general and in my opinion, they skimped on the dialogue options. It was the weakest part of the game. I remember being especially annoyed by this in the Dwarven stories. In the main plot, in the landsmeet meeting, the character argues poorly on your behalf in some of the trees. You don't get to press certain points when there should be an opportunity to do so.
d0f39d No.16078942
>>16076862
That manual is almost disappointingly competently written.
6dcab1 No.16078955
>>16076808
It's about as much of an rpg as Fallout 4 or Skyrim is.
193b62 No.16079031
>>16076808
>gear progression
I'd argue that this is too simple since almost every FPS has something like it now.
>quests with choice and consequence
What? Aside from the main story, Stalker had maybe three quests with multiple ways to end it. Aside from the quest failing being an end, I guess.
30c70e No.16079032
>>16078955
Why is milf todd always so strangely hot in these things?
8beeaa No.16079046
>>16079032
Buy her game, anon, ara ara~
587c1a No.16079130
>>16078312
Yes, they're both pretty cool in their own way.
17cc47 No.16079217
>>16076623
Arcanum is very much a spiritual successor to Fallout, so there's that.
be69c9 No.16079258
de8932 No.16079267
>>16079046
I choose option C.
f160b4 No.16079311
>>16079258
There's that leaked PSP build of Oblivion.
The PSP EA collection has some Ultima games IIRC.
Eye of the Beholder on GBA.
Etrian Odyssey and similar games are basically Wizardry clones.
Wasteland 2 is getting a Switch port, could be more.
0a0b20 No.16079314
I'll be completely honest - I reinstalled vanilla Oblivion this weekend
55fa95 No.16079329
>>16079267
Well, you asked for it.
>>16079270
Power speed really is mandatory in that one.
587c1a No.16079509
>>16079419
AoD kind of is grimdark though.
55fa95 No.16079556
>>16079509
>>16079546
How is arcanum not grim?
02274b No.16079562
Waiting for Kingmaker to be finally completely release.
Insane is just insane difficulty.
1c75f6 No.16080009
RIP, PoE franchise. Had alot of fun with you, but your second game sold terribly.
ced922 No.16080021
>>16080009
Fantasy and pirates just don't match that well tbh. That and the story of the first game got pretty underwhelming towards the end.
Just how much of a fucking fedora do you have to be to have that sort of plot twist. Keep your shit tier politics out of my vidya you tranny sjw pieces of shit
be69c9 No.16080026
Any realistic CRPGs? Like women who try to be warriors just get their face pushed in and then a dick shoved in every hole?
3e66ba No.16080040
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16076530
Just started a new character in Grim Dawn in preparation for the new expansion yeah I know it's an ARPG but whatever
7db10f No.16080057
Sekiro looks prtty neato…cant wait for the cuphead DLC
cb1b6a No.16080432
>>16079258
Almost every handheld has a few Wizardry games on it. Even the Wonder Swan
0a8f43 No.16080802
>>16078312
>>16078328
>>16078330
Don't play the second one. It soulless garbage.
0104f1 No.16080864
>>16076530
>What are you playing, RPGbros?
Gothic, my negro.
>Looking forward to a game this year?
Do good CRPGs even come out on the regular anymore?
a0b61f No.16081069
>>16079556
Grimdark is a specific flavor of world setting where you deliberately make it clear everything is as bleak as possible to the point where you don't really care that it's so dark, whether or not it's emo goth edge is entirely dependent on the type of gonzo and overall message. Arcanum is pretty grim but it's just ye olde England smog down your throat from the industrial revolution.
55fa95 No.16081125
>>16081069
I don't recall arthurian knights doing a glorious charge against gnome sponsored musket line in anything Dickens wrote. There's also that matter of Tula nuking Vendigroth and screwing itself in the process or how just about every race is currently in the shits. The elves are dying out, the dwarves are dying out, the lizards are dying out, the humans wish they were dying out. The mages, dragons, and the barbarians have died out. The only ones that prosper are gnomekikes and their purposely bred halfgoys.
be69c9 No.16082734
>>16082688
>I believe feminist bullshit
Kill yourself. The weakest man is still stronger than the strongest women.
46f509 No.16082809
>>16082734
>implying Jayne Trcka wouldn't crush you like a grape
Female bodybuilders are an outlier, but women can become ridiculously strong.
The current world record for heaviest weight lifted by a woman is 734 lbs (333 kg). Can you lift 734 lbs? I very much doubt it, oh keyboard warrior.
Granted, the current men's record is 6270 lbs (2844 kg)
6df2ec No.16082817
>>16082809
I can squat more than that.
46f509 No.16082821
>>16082817
to refine: the 333kg was a deadlift
f1135a No.16082831
>>16082809
I'm not sure how some bodybuilder that took enough shit to grow a beard and a clit big enough penetrate is relevant to fiction where the warrior women still look distinctly like women.
7dd39a No.16082864
>>16082734
Not true at all, there's a lot of crossover, men are still generally stronger though
>>16082809
>Granted, the current men's record is 6270 lbs (2844 kg)
Think you added an extra digit there
4ee107 No.16082875
>>16082864
>an extra digit there
He's a big guy
7dd39a No.16082882
>>16080021
>Fantasy and pirates just don't match that well tbh.
Fuck off that sounded cool as fuck, will pirate at some point
>>16082875
No guy no matter how big can lift almost 3 metric tons, perhaps you mean a powerlifting total, in which case the woman's would also be higher
t. /fit/
4ee107 No.16082893
>>16082882
>No guy no matter how big
For you, maybe. There's also that leaf Gregg Ernst that lifted 5,340 pounds in 1993 for the Guinness Book of World Records.
be69c9 No.16082899
>>16082809
It's been studied faggot. And well studied by the military and independent research. Women are weaker than teenage buys. Pumping them full of hormones doesn't make a difference either because they're built weaker. It's like comparing cottage cheese to cement. Cottage cheese can never be as strong as cement is.
4ee107 No.16082903
>>16082899
Nah, you're missing the point. It's not that you can't put a crossbow or even better, a modern rifle in some bitches hands and that she won't be good with it. The trick is that for all their bullshit your average shieldmaidenfag doesn't realize how historically it's the men that were expendable. Think about it, even if 2/3rds of your male population dies in a war there's still enough healthy wombs to ensure a new generation is ready for the meatgrinder.
0d40d7 No.16082904
>>16079258
Zill o'll Infinite Plus. Hope you know Nipponese.
>>16080021
>Just how much of a fucking fedora do you have to be to have that sort of plot twist. Keep your shit tier politics out of my vidya you tranny sjw pieces of shit
Elaborate.
7dd39a No.16082907
>>16082893
>>16082809
The squat WR is about half a ton and the deadlift one is also around that. how i mean what lift did he do he lifted that much weight? can't see what they really mean by backlifting
be69c9 No.16082908
>>16082903
This is how you know someone is retarded. Pulling back a crossbow to load it takes a lot of strength. You give a crossbow to a woman that isn't loaded and she's got little more than a wooden pic axe in her hand.
Shield maidens didn't exist because women are too valuable as you recognise, but also because women are traitorous cunts. They spread their legs for whoevers in charge. They have no reason to get involved in war when whoever wins is going to fuck them and give them a stronger child than the loser war. War for women is a win/win scenario. Spoils of war if their "side" wins and a new richer side with stronger men to impregnate them if their "side" loses.
4ee107 No.16082922
>>16082908
>Pulling back a crossbow to load it takes a lot of strength
No, not really. Gearshot, crankshot. Lever action. For example I've got one of those composite polymer modern contraptions and my ten year old nephew can cock it without any issues. When his mother doesn't threaten to hang me by it for giving her kid weapons to play with, that is
And we're talking about tension and sheer torque generally far superior to what you could find 400-500 years ago.
>War for women is a win/win scenario. Spoils of war if their "side" wins and a new richer side with stronger men to impregnate them if their "side" loses.
I think you may have studied porns instead of history material.
9d5be3 No.16083216
>>16076623
Not really, they might have some similarities but Arcanum is different in many ways to Fallout.
02274b No.16083219
681d0c No.16083338
>>16082922
Comparing modern crossbows to what they could make in the middle ages seems disingenuous. Most men of those times had issue using arbalests, though even a regular wooden hunting crossbow will tire you out when you keep pulling the drawstring back into position after firing, repeatedly. Not as much as a bow, but you're not going to have women using it when you could have men do it and they'd not only be more expendable, but also have far more endurance.
4ee107 No.16083798
>>16083338
>you could have men do it and they'd be more expendable
That's kinda what I said? Again, we're talking contemporary folk here that chopped wood, churned butter and hauled shit heavier than their ass or their phone on a daily basis. Cranking a gear based crossbow or redrawing with the help of a lever is not unimaginable. There's also an argument to be made about classic warfare skirmishers and how boys and young men carried slings, threw darts and such. But all that moves the argument to whether something is possible from how impractical or plain fucking dumb it is in practice.
d996df No.16087156
>>16081125
Yes but you actually care when the kike mocks you to your face, probably the one NPC you'll kill on the spot just out of spite if nothing else. In a Grimdark setting you wouldn't even care about that and just let it wash over you and concentrate on other things.
f96e7c No.16088228
I was thinking of replaying Baldur's Gate games. Are there any recent good mods for them? Do people continue modding them at all?
6fc389 No.16088414
>>16076623
I still don't get why Arcanum is so popular and so praised.
>bugs out the ass
>spellcasters can kill just about anything since LVL1
>technicians are inferior and have to rifle through trash cans and drag around loads of junk like some gypsies
What's left? Quests and environments? You can't possibly make a good game on that alone and it's definitely nowhere close to Planescape: Torment in that regard.
d06d68 No.16088497
>>16079329
>e Empire right now and I kinda feel stupid that I managed to never pickup on the fact that it's an action game. I always thought it was gonna be like KotR where you line up moves in tick base
i loved when power speed bugged during zone loading and remained perma enabled after that, or at least until the next game load (load from a save)
1c75f6 No.16088504
>>16083219
What's wrong with you, man? PoE is a clearly great game.
d2744d No.16088519
>>16088504
I don't know about him, but for me the game went to shit real fast about half-way through. On hardest difficulty it eventually became too easy and therefore boring. I actually 2-manned that dungeon in the first city, because I didn't know I could find more companions very close and completely cleared that deep dungeon below the castle as soon as I came across it. After that there was nothing challenging and having beaten the castle dungeon everything else got even easier.
Then there was nigger womyn companion and moralfaggotry about slavery or something.
edb903 No.16088683
just a reminder that Temple of Elemental Evil
with the circle of Eight patch is the best CRPG ever made.
and you have shit taste if you think otherwise.
eaa7a9 No.16088764
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Post a more memorable CRPG music than this
c32a63 No.16088805
>>16088414
Game is overall good, but it had its flaws and bugs. Now its true that Magic is better, even OP than tech stuff, but thing is that it makes sense, because makgical power would be more poweefull than a mere gun. Its just that tech is, well, technology, and it would become more avaliable to anyone, and no need of any high esoteric knowledge to ise it. Magic is a great power, but is avaliable to the few, not to the many.
71de2f No.16088822
>>16081125
That's you projecting pessimism onto the game. The only time I got an 'all is lost' vibe from the game is at the end of half-ogre quest and that wouldn't have had the effect it did if everything else was depressing.
If I recall correctly, it's possible to acheive somewhat good outcomes for most of the races you mentioned, including the Vendigrothans (somehow).
>>16088414
McGyvering bombs out of garbage was part of the appeal for me. But yeah, the bugs and imbalance are pretty ridiculous. I think even Drog Blacktooth, who spent years trying to fix it, eventually said that Arcanum is just a bad game.
cb1b6a No.16088985
>>16088414
>muh balance
You're in the wrong genre, friend. You don't choose different skills/classes/etc. in an ROG based on what's most efficient, but what you're in the mood to fuck around with for the play through.
dc0627 No.16089112
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16088683
I heard Circle of 8 added tons of cruft to the game.
>>16088764
Done.
d2744d No.16089148
>>16089112
>vid
It's memorable, but it's not from a CRPG, Diablo is a hack'n'slash game. Or actionRPG for people who refuse to accept that level ups aren't roleplay.
d996df No.16089202
>>16088414
Unless you choose guns the game isn't that hard except for when the golems show up. Hell you could invest some points into melee so you're not useless and can hit things, then put everything else you have into charisma and be a charming gentlemen with a party of thugs at his back.
37adf9 No.16089251
>>16089148
I know. I was messing with him.
71de2f No.16089387
>>16089202
It's a bit cheese, but you can use a fate point to pickpocket Sammy's gun in Tarant. It's a handcannon which I think is the 8th schematic in the gun discipline. Very overpowered when you get it that early.
And I said this in a different thread but throwing/explosives is pretty good all the way through. Frags and stun grenades work on golems and you can use a boomerang/chakram for small stuff.
f22da9 No.16089540
>>16088228
I believe people still mod for the games, but I wouldn't know of any good recent mods for them. I'd say just go on Pocket Plane or Gibberlings3 and see what interests you.
0c35fa No.16091025
>>16077996
>>16077954
>>16077894
Sadly GOG rejected it:
>We’ve taken a look at Grimoire, it looks like a rich RPG game, with complex combat, deep lore, fun mechanics and simple, yet eye-catching retro graphics.
>Unfortunately, however, we feel that the game would not be a good fit for GOG, as we think that it appears to be too niche and a bit too small in scale in terms of production value for our users, which means that we aren’t confident in its release potential on our site.
>For these reasons I’m afraid we will have to pass on Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/gog-turns-down-grimoire-for-publishing.126050/
f6119f No.16091077
>>16091025
I haven't been to rpgcodex in a long time. Did they remove post ratings? I only see likes now, like how it was before ratings were even added
0c35fa No.16091099
844e11 No.16091162
>>16091025
>YIIK is allowed on GOG
>OELVN's are allowed on GOG
>Grimoire isn't
I call bullshit on GOG's explanation that it's "too niche", something else is going on. I have to imagine they found out about Cleve's banter and chickened out.
c6dc01 No.16091379
>rpgcodex
Japan makes better RPG's. Deal with it.
71136d No.16091461
Been playing The Witcher 1 recently. It's a bit of a mixed bag. The combat is terrible and just wastes time, but it's also very interesting and comfy at the same time.
When will I finally be done with this swamp?
0c35fa No.16091477
>>16091461
Try the Full Combat Rebalance mod.
7c22cc No.16091478
>>16091461
IIRC you are never completely done with the swamp, even in Chapter 5 you go there for some time
b1a14c No.16091499
>>16091379
Japan makes really good copies of 90s CRPGs but their OC is shit.
f25e25 No.16091513
>>16091499
Their RPGs are better in every way. Music, game play, writing, you name it.
c6dc01 No.16091516
>>16091499
You make me laugh, little nigger.
b1a14c No.16091531
>>16091513
They don't really classify as RPGs at all and fail at being ones if you consider them such. Linear anime simulators with dull repetetive combat thrown in? Yeah, they're great at being that. Basically David Cage games but for weebs with too much time on their hands.
c6dc01 No.16091559
>>16091531
>weebs
Yep. it's reddit.
3db5c6 No.16091562
>>16091531
I suppose if you enjoy learning about trannies and fags while reusing the same game mechanics eternally then wrpgs are pretty top tier.
218ee2 No.16091565
>>16091562
So what exactly is your complaint? That the game does not pander to YOU? Ugh. Please go away.
b1a14c No.16091568
>>16091562
This is bait, JRPGs are so homosexual and soy infused that the men look like women in them and they all use the same lame systems that are made to waste the player's time, not to provide a good system.
>>16091559
I can't even navigate that shithole, but I hear cuckime watching weebs tend to gather there, so I can't be missing much.
3db5c6 No.16091580
>>16091568
Struck a nerve, I see. It's ok, I'm sure that you are brave and stunning just like xer genderqueer half-orc druid MC in Kingmaker.
146013 No.16091598
I'll never forgive bioware for what they did to revan and the exile in swtor
c6dc01 No.16091614
>>16091594
>/tv/ discord spic hates anime
It checks out.
>>>/tv/1852834
b1a14c No.16091616
>>16091614
Nice attempt at deflection, you know I'm right though, you know.
0542bd No.16091625
>>16091379
JRPGs are just too repetitive and too linear most of the time. They usually almost always also avoid more serious or darker settings and most of their fantasy settings are kinda meh. They rarely also have any sort of branching dialogue or choice and consequence, which just makes the linearity worse.
Dark Souls is okay but that too is pretty overrated, they have a tendency to repeat one formula too often.
71136d No.16091640
Should a video game genre name describe basic themes or the core gameplay loop? Which is more useful? I feel like people imagining genres as describing themes is what ends up birthing non-game walking simulators stuffed with wordswordswords. The phrase Roguelike has been completely ruined and now not even the people who ruined it can agree on what it means. I think this sort of thing is important because it could shift the mindset of a developer to think less in themes and more in gameplay.
71136d No.16091642
>>16091640
RPGs are obviously a victim of this too, with some people imagining it just meaning a stat system, or worse, just a skill tree.
b1a14c No.16091678
>>16091640
>Which is more useful?
Depends on what defines the genre obviously. Simulators for example simulate, this is not a gameplay loop but a theme. RPGs have gotten their genre name from tabletop RPGs, but what defined them as video games were two things, an abstract conflict and task resolution system and the separation of player and character.
ee6190 No.16091687
>>16091625
If WRPGs are so great, do monster raising WRPGs exist?
0c35fa No.16091707
>>16091687
There's Zanzarah, I guess
61a5f3 No.16091721
>>16091686
Just yesterday j"rpg" fans in Fire Emblem thread were trying to prove to me that roleplaying games don't need to have roleplay while foaming at the mouth. The best thing they came up with over the whole debate is that choosing which units to use and which to sacrifice in combat constitutes roleplay.
ee6190 No.16091733
>>16091707
That's it? And it was released only 4 years ago? Why have WRPGs barely even touched one of the best things JRPGs have created?
0542bd No.16091734
>>16091687
>WRPG
It's CRPG. The C standing for Computer, not Classic. WRPG is not a real term.
71136d No.16091749
>>16091678
But simulators just define the gameplay. "Flight Simulator" simulates an airplane. You play as a pilot of a realistic airplane. I suppose the "realistic" implication of the word "simulator" is a theme rather than a gameplay loop, but simulators are always specified with… Whatever is being simulated. That therefore is the gameplay loop.
3db5c6 No.16091753
261bb1 No.16091756
>>16091734
CRPGs and WRPGs tend to be different genres. I associate WRPG with Elder Scrolls and Mass Effect while CRPG is more D&D Goldbox, Baldurs Gate, or Pillars of Eternity
0542bd No.16091789
>>16091756
I have never heard anyone have that sort of classification other than you.
b1a14c No.16091793
>>16091749
Simulators are often bunched together so it's not very specific if you take it as a gameplay loop. How it is being simulated can also vary quite a lot mechanically.
56ddf7 No.16091845
>>16091687
And yet you weeb faggots call those "Baby's first JRPGs" while praising yet another high fantasy medieval 4 kids save the world visual novel.
1ed859 No.16091860
I like both Japanese and western games.
ee6190 No.16091869
>>16091845
>And yet you weeb faggots call those "Baby's first JRPGs"
What, Pokemon and Persona? Yeah because the former is deliberately designed to be babby's first JRPG and the latter is SMT but easier and with more dating sim shit.
56ddf7 No.16091898
>>16091869
So what are your enlightened superior monster raising RPGs, shitpostpai?
244b4c No.16091919
ee6190 No.16091950
>>16091898
I'm not an expert on all things monster raising so correct me if I missed something, but it's mostly the SMT series where you're going to see the darker settings and brancing choices. The linearity is still an issue, though. But that's not the point. The point is that I think that monster raising has a great formula that is usually squandered to sell toys to kids. If WRPGs are so great then they should be able to take the genre to the next level, but they've barely even tried to tackle it.
1c75f6 No.16091994
>>16091734
Huh. I always thought the c in CRPG stood for complex.
>>16091860
Why did you post a picture of a couple of empty anime desks?
71de2f No.16092034
>>16091687
Breeding Season was never finished.
7af72b No.16092084
>>16091860
You know that doesn't fly around these parts.
You have to argue about it even if you don't want to.
d996df No.16092200
>>16091162
GOG and their parent company are SJWs or at least halfway to being that now. Goons and other hard Left types just really hate Cleve. I'm waiting on another external drive to backup GOG shit before they go full Galaxy because their installers is genuinely the only thing they have that is valuable.
7b76ae No.16092273
>>16092200
Seeing some of the stuff in the catalog is just depressing now. If Grimoire actually got rejected like that I can only imagine some of the other stuff they are not adding or fixing in favor of indie garbage #17454323.
0542bd No.16092297
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>>16091860
I like Japanese games, I just don't like JRPGs in about 99/100 cases. I don't think they even really qualify for the title of "role playing game" in many situations.
>>16091994
It stands for Computer since they were adapting pen and paper RPGs to computers during the 70s and 80s. I suggest watching/listening to Matt Barton's podcast Matt Chat to know more about the history of CRPGs. He covers the the earliest of early RPGs to the newest. The guy is kinda autistic but I really do like him.
Vid related covers the earliest RPGs out there. It's really interesting.
79400e No.16092313
8b8c83 No.16092350
>>16092313
>solution
Play a finished game.
6d5622 No.16092381
>>16092313
Stop playing shit games
d996df No.16092404
>>16092313
Can't really help you there, Neverwinters Nights broke itself on my machine and now I can't even run it regardless of which version I use. I guess it's a compatibility bug that turned out fatal for you, or you should jot down the BSOD error it's specifying and look that up. Stop playing is about the only real solution to that.
a02610 No.16092413
>>16092297
Lemme guesss, persona/smt, paper mario and mother/earthbound are the exceptions?
0542bd No.16092422
>>16092413
nah that's completely wrong mate. I haven't played any of those games, I don't even have consoles where I could play any of them.
939b57 No.16092423
>>16091162
>Cleve's banter
The man's a heavyweight shit talker even for Australia's already record high standards.
0542bd No.16092440
>>16092423
He really is. I need to go down his post history more often.
eb2d56 No.16092472
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This looks pretty good, theres a demo on steam
939b57 No.16092476
>>16092440
Frankly, they're out of his league
eb2d56 No.16092487
>>16091379
Name a single one.
7b76ae No.16092507
>>16092440
Just looking through what he's posted in his own thread is a goldmine.
3fa903 No.16092512
>>16092494
Isn't that a porn game with light rpg mechanics.
7100ac No.16092521
>>16092507
>he started spamming
CLEVE. CLEVE. CLEVE. CLEVE.
d996df No.16092530
>>16092512
All the good Rance games have time limits tied to number of turns, and the window of time you have is very tight so it appears deceitfully simple but if you don't plan ahead you'll regret it later.
939b57 No.16092532
>>16092512
Each entry in the series is different and goes from classic jrpg to adventure, action rpg, dungeon crawler and even grand strategy. The porn is just the bonus. Take it with a grain of salt if you will but Alicesoft single handedly made me change my mind and give other (((weebshit))) a fair chance.
>>16092530
So, all of them, essentially?
758265 No.16092550
>>16076623
It was opposite for me.
Never could get into arcanum. Never liked the steampunk + magic combo.
d996df No.16092558
>>16092532
>So, all of them, essentially?
Nah, I played the first few games unremastered and those didn't have any time limits and the rpg mechanics were even less then any of the Rance games after Sengoku.
758265 No.16092573
>>16088228
Look for Holy Avenger Kit + Extra
There was also a mod that completely changed the way armor worked, but I don't think it's available anymore.
939b57 No.16092587
>>16092558
2 and 3 have time sensitive events, and you will fuck yourself if you dick around for too long in 3. The first game doesn't but something made in 1989 for PC-98 should be given some slack.
e913fc No.16092598
>>16092532
>action rpg
You have my attention which one is the Action RPG?
1ed859 No.16092683
>>16092297
Yeah I sort of agree with you there, the only JRPGs I really play are those with complex and varied combat systems. Shit like Etrian Odyssey and Trails in the Sky where some amount of thought and strategy is required and you have to put some consideration into party setup too.
Final Fantasy combat is just not fun.
>>16092550
I get what you mean. A lot of people dislike Shadowrun for the same reason, mixing magic with tech stuff is just a no-go for them.
d23ded No.16094458
Tower of time. A simplified version, however I enjoy it.
6fc389 No.16094616
Among the recent games I liked Underrail and somewhat liked Age of Decadence.
Underrail is an RPG, but there is more (really good) combat and DOMINATING difficulty is really interesting, this was probably the first time a game forced me to use consumables.
Age of Decadence has more roleplay to it, but it's way too focused on the damn stat checks, got tired of managing them after second city. The combat is pretty tight too, but less varied.
79400e No.16094993
>>16088683
Never got to paly it, so I will. But now I have this problem. In what order, and/or which of these I have to install? Game folder doesnt say it, and not sure which is a mod or a vital patch.
0c35fa No.16095287
>>16095256
It truly never ends.
>1990
>Cleveland Blakemore, who quotes Nietzsche, lived for six months in a plywood shack under a highway bridge.
https://newspaperarchive.com/new-castle-news-feb-21-1990-p-20/
0542bd No.16095303
>>16095287
>ip blocked in my country
That's gay. Can you upload that to here?
480285 No.16095366
>>16088228
I'm this guy in case my ID changed. I couldn't really find anything except I noticed one of the tweaks mods has an option to move late game companions to early game. This is amazing. I wouldn't use companions like Tirax before because you already have a full party at that point but now I have both him and Quayle at the party
>>16092573
Checked and that's an old mod. I probably already played it
5aaf9c No.16095379
>>16095366
>>16088228
Get gog version of 1and 2, slap easytutu on top and go from there. I personally ran with Romantic Encounters, Unfinished Business, Tweakpack for TuTu, Shar-Tiel expansion, 1PP pack for TuTu and a few other mods I specifically edited to work with that setup.
6fc389 No.16095384
>>16095366
You should play a game that's actually good instead. Maybe even something you haven't played 10 times yet. Are you scared of playing newer games?
480285 No.16095393
>>16095384
I just wanted a bit of nostalgia, I played this game a lot but still the last time was like 5 years ago. For new rpg I bought that Divinity Original Sin game a while ago, still playing from time to time
6fc389 No.16095413
>>16095393
If you keep playing one game it will make you sick, eventually. I know I fucking hate playing my favourite game after beating it about 15 times.
>Divinity Original Sin
D:OS is barely even an RPG, it's mostly about turn based combat. And it gets weaker towards the end. It culminated in me killing the boss by earshquake scrolls while he was lying on the ground the whole time, although I could just oneshot it. Try Underrail instead, there's more variety in everything and combat is much more consistent throughout the game.
531923 No.16095444
>CRPG
KOTOR2 launched on Xbox if anyone cares.
531923 No.16095464
>>16088519
>moralfaggotry about slavery
To be fair most people are normalfaggots not superior 8chan beings. Things like slavery, ethnic cleansing and child sex exploitation are generally accepted as bad things. A shame really but probably for the best.
1c75f6 No.16095642
Will we get any good RPGs this year?
e913fc No.16095666
>>16095642
Depends on whether or not you think Outer Worlds has any hope of being good with it's writing staff being what it is
6fc389 No.16095684
>>16095642
>this year
Are you implying we got a good rpg the previous year or the year before that?
>>16095666 (checked)
>Outer Worlds
That's a shooter.
d996df No.16095705
>>16095464
Pedophilia is a perversion and is a sign of an unhealthy mind both physically and mentally, although people label teenagers as 4-6 year old children because it's convenient.
Slavery will chafe anyone who values individual freedom to choose their own path but there is practical reasons why slavery is bad, it completely halts innovation of all kinds because the labor is cheap and you don't need to innovate because of it. Just throw slaves at it and the problem is solved.
e913fc No.16095727
>>16095684
Action RPGs are still RPGs
aaa4de No.16095758
>>16092476
>Yellow man
>Finland
Did I miss something? Did the Fins lose The Finno-Korean Hyperwar?
6fc389 No.16095782
>>16095705
>pedophilia
Nobody said anything about it, are you projecting?
>slavery halts innovation
How many practical examples do you have to back that up without mentioning commies and niggers?
>>16095727
It's a CRPG thread. And how can you tell that it's an RPG anyway? I just looked at the gameplay and all you can do is ask questions and be a dick when talking to quest givers.
d996df No.16095811
>>16095782
>Nobody said anything about it
Maybe you should actually read another post an Anon replies to.
>>16095464
>and child sex exploitation
As for slavery stifling innovation because of economics the prime example is definitely the Roman Empire, pretty much all their farmwork was slave labor and they were very slow to adopt anything too advanced. Landowners didn't see much of a reason when they had the groundwork for more advanced farm machinery at their disposal when the slave labor they had now was cheaper and worked just fine.
6fc389 No.16095814
>>16095811
>child sex exploitation
What about it?
>slave labor they had now was cheaper and worked just fine
That means that farm machinery wasn't efficient and therefore a downgrade.
e913fc No.16095818
>>16095782
>And how can you tell that it's an RPG anyway?
The stat checks in the dialogue and the fact they're obviously building it up as a "spiritual successor" to New Vegas I think they even discussed how the stats are going to work in game/what stats there will be but I'm too lazy to check now
d996df No.16095835
>>16095814
>What about it?
Are you serious?
6fc389 No.16095838
>>16095835
Yeah, spell it out.
d996df No.16095841
>>16095838
I have to spell out to you why people wanting to fuck kids is why child sex slaves exist.
6fc389 No.16095855
>>16095841
>people wanting to fuck kids is why child sex slaves exist
That's obvious, are you moving goalposts now to avoid embarrassing yourself? Anon said nothing about pedophilia, he was talking about child sex exploitation.
d996df No.16095878
>>16095855
It's already apparent to anyone reading this exchange that you can't understand why anyone would bring up pedophilia when someone is talking about child sex slaves.
6fc389 No.16095894
>>16095878
>you can't understand
But I can, you bring up pedophilia because you are a moralfaggot. And I'm showing you your moralfaggotry. YOu still avoid spelling out what I asked of you, because it is wrong.
6d6bf8 No.16095913
>>16095909
>dendrophiles
I bet you don't even fap to archaea.
d996df No.16095920
>>16095894
>YOu still avoid spelling out what I asked of you
I just spelled it out for you right here >>16095841 you even said it yourself that it's obvious. I was never hiding my morality, the first sentence of my post already makes it obvious what my stance is. My only mistake in that post was not clearly separating the sex slavery and the rest of the post as being addressed separately. Sex slavery exists because kiddie diddlers exist and they can't do it out in the open. There is no reason not to bring it up and I already clearly stated it is perverse and that they're wrong in the head physically and mentally. Prove me wrong that I didn't.
It is okay to have standards beyond pure pragmatism, and I draw the line at fucking 6 year olds. 3D ones anyways.
5aaf9c No.16095929
>>16095913
Druid is the superior class choice. Virusfags get the fuck out.
6fc389 No.16095935
>>16095920
You're missing the point. Most child slave users or molesters are not pedophiles.
>I draw the line at fucking 6 year olds
I agree. Now stop replying to me or Mark will purge half the thread.
6d6bf8 No.16095938
>>16095929
>archaea
>virus
You had best be jesting me.
e913fc No.16095940
>>16095929
>>16095938
What the fuck is going on and why do I get the feeling I don't want to know
e913fc No.16095947
>>16095935
>Pedofag in massive denial
5aaf9c No.16095950
>>16095938
I'm not referencing to their genealogy, rather, I'm implying your taste is so shit you're in all likelihood a sodomite and have contracted AIDS. At best you're spreading your filth as a HIV carrier, hence, a virusfag.
Now, can you stop shitposting and can we talk some vidya?
6d6bf8 No.16095963
>>16095950
I'd rather have AIDS than genital aphids.
>can you stop shitposting
Where do you think we are? yes
1c75f6 No.16095970
>>16095684
>Are you implying we got a good rpg the previous year or the year before that?
>he hasn't played PoE 2 or Divinity 2 yet
6fc389 No.16095984
>>16095947
>proceeds to reply to me
You wont believe how many (you)s I got in just two days by arguing semantics on different topics.
>>16095970
>Divinity 2
That's a 2009 game. Well, I forgot about D:OS2, I suppose it's good. PoE 2 is shit though.
3e46fd No.16095989
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>>16088764
this
also if we count them might and magic series always had good soundtracks
d996df No.16095995
>>16095950
Well is there any new games coming out that isn't Grimrock with the same style as a Dungeon Crawler, or Baldur's Gate that doesn't have it's own thread and isn't shit? Also recommended Grimrock mods I guess?
aadc6b No.16096146
>this thread
>>16076862
The manual is actually pretty comprehensive and I am genuinely impressed. I will actually try playing this again.
0104f1 No.16096263
>>16096146
Derails like this used to happen all the time.
6d6bf8 No.16096272
>>16096263
1. That is hardly a derail, the OP was about the stranger's tits
2. >used to
abfb27 No.16096324
>>16096263
i remember that thread, there was some good /clang/ posted there
56ddf7 No.16096514
>>16096263
>>16096324
And also that "hmmm block" thread that somehow derailed into the birth of /clang/
eeb64d No.16096536
>>16096514
I remember that. I wish 8chan's archiving service wasn't total garbage so I could find those old threads again.
aaa4de No.16096999
<<16095984
>I'm only pretending to be retarded!
2c375e No.16097736
>>16076530
>>16076623
Coincidentally, replaying Arcanum on a preplanned build, from points and equipment to even quests.
> Looking forward to a game this year?
I don't think there will be any CRPG that will ever be on the same level as Arcanum/Fallout/Wizardry anymore unless some /v/irgin shoulders this massive undertaking.
6fc389 No.16098076
>>16096999
I was correct all along though, what are you talking about?
1c75f6 No.16098663
Guy that's replaying the old classics and asked about KOTOR earlier in the thread here, how about Icewind Dale? Is it still worthwhile?
Nice that my rpg thread is still alive.
6fc389 No.16098673
>>16098663
I'm not that guy, but Icewind Dale isn't even an RPG, all you do is combat the enemies the whole game. The combat is alright though. Definitely worth it if you like real-tome D&D combat for some reason.
0c35fa No.16098674
>>16098663
It's mostly combat focused, but still one of the comfiest game for me.
c96e25 No.16098686
>>16098663
Have you played Baldur's Gate. It's like that, except combat is better and much more combat focused. You create all of your party instead of recruiting people, it's honestly shitload of fun with some class combinations
2f8ac4 No.16099029
>>16076623
what should I know before playing it?
0c35fa No.16099031
>>16099029
The Unofficial Patch is a must.
2c375e No.16102620
>>16099029
This >>16099031
Also just the following:
Real time combat is best played on weak random encounters, otherwise use turn-based.
Game is made to be exploited for fun.
Get dog as soon as you're able so you're free to experiment on your build and don't have to worry on fucking up.
If you like it, play as a dumb orc next.
Other than that just enjoy the game.
216aa4 No.16102773
>>16091513
>writing
>game play
weebs are delusional