e1b29d No.16070806
Is it just me, or was The Phantom Pain's intro almost gratuitously dark and brutal? It wasn't bad my any means, it was actually very good but it just felt kind of out of place with the rest of the game. This game is full of really jarring tonal whiplash. If the rest of the game had kept a similar tone/felt more like Ground Zeroes it would have been nightmarish and absolutely incredible.
d501e0 No.16070826
I actually agree 5 was my first mgs. After years seeing gameplay of snake sneaking around in a box and the other wacky stuff that MGS has I was surprised to see that scene in it.
fe02e9 No.16070834
>>16070826
>5 was my first mgs game
I want reddit to leave
50e469 No.16070856
>>16070834
I still haven't played the series. I should sometime….
15b9a3 No.16070865
>>16070834
i've only ever played mgs2 am i reddit too please say yes
144ad2 No.16070973
>>16070806
Kojima actually wanted the game to be darker but he was forced to back pedal from Konami's pressure. Generally around the time they realized that he was going to allow you to train and use child soldiers.
e1b29d No.16071024
>>16070973
>Generally around the time they realized that he was going to allow you to train and use child soldiers.
Wait, what?
c49949 No.16071468
>>16071024
Big Boss using child soldiers is established lore.
100b4a No.16071542
>>16071468
The last MG I played was 4, if you don't count Revengence. Is it true that there is some "look at these poor african chilluns" stuff in V?
072014 No.16071678
>>16071542
Yes, there's an important story mission about rescuing kids from a diamond mine, then another about non-lethally infiltrating Kid Liquid's child soldier base.
e25093 No.16071681
>It was actually very good
It wasn't. It was 30 minutes of absolute fucking boredom because big movie man Kojima wants to be cinematic.
b348a7 No.16071727
>>16070806
MGSV is wasted potential all over. The gameplay is great but the content drought is what kills it. The linear sequences tend to be pretty good, especially the intro, and as you say, the game should have kept the tone and themes of it and Ground Zeroes.
Also, they should never have made it open world, instead the whole game should have been Ground Zeroes sized big maps.
6f32c3 No.16071826
The sheer amount of coincidence and luck Venom has in the intro convinced me that the hospital sequence was all staged. Cipher and XOF playing you like a damn fiddle. Goofy Metal Gear stuff works in the gameplay, but the cutscenes were showing Venom laying right next to Ishmael and breathing. Look how long it takes the XOF troops to react to Venom still being alive when they roll him over. Perhaps a dropped concept or a disjointed intro.
e1b29d No.16073072
A lot of the marketing for the game was like this too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMyoCr2MnpM
e3ca08 No.16073173
>>16070806
>>16071826
Koji actually wrote and rewrote the games as he's was making them. Just like with Metal Gear Solid 2 after the tanker Mission the rest of the game was supposed to take place in Iraq. Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain were never meant to be split up but the development time was taking too long so Konami needed something to show for their investment. Having pain also recycles a lot stuff and story sequences were completely abandoned for time. The venom snake thing was poorly flushed out because the original idea was skull face messing with big boss and trying to convince him that he wasn't the original, along with the possibility that skull face was actually a failed Big Boss clone himself. Plus all of the crazy hallucinations the boss experiences during the course phantom pain should have been related to the shrapnel in his head. (Sort of like what was going on with Paz) leading to the possibility that a large portion of the game would have been revealed by skull face to have just been hallucinations and manipulation.
9690e2 No.16073181
>>16070973
Tonal switch in V were what killed it. What makes it so sad is under everything there is so good story and tone some where in there, When it's about Fucked up and broken both physicaly and fysicaly people that are no way good guys that have to fight aginst group of even worse people it was so good.
every time venomous snake was hallucinating this like about paz and other thing it was so good. Huey Emmerich was most fucked up person in any games. Then all death and decay.
But those moments and dark tones were so few and far away that it didn't save the game. And in other side there was too much goofy stuff or fanservise. In grand sceme of thing base souldnt been this brightly lit oildrilling platform but mountain base midle of enemy terrotory. Ditch a dog and make quite burnt up crazy person then we could be good
577060 No.16073197
>>16071024
>>16071542
>>16071678
Current game is "look at these poor african children shooting at you, you have to save them", at least you can rush in with a stun shotgun which is fun, but it doesn't fit in well with the rest of the game.
Kojima said that he wanted to do something that might get big studios pissed off and there are audio files in the games in response to you killing the nigglets, which means you were supposed to at least be able to kill them, but Konami most likely cut it out because of PR. Considering you could choose between killing or being a good goy, I don't doubt there was supposed to be an option to use them as soldiers.
e1b29d No.16073207
>>16073197
If it was still 2005 Kojima could have made the game he really wanted and we could have gotten something as good or better than Snake Eater. Vidya is dead.
577060 No.16073235
>>16073207
>we could have gotten something as good or better than Snake Eater
I don't know if it'd get to that point, but the game would be way better. TPP is just a neutered game with cut content because it's current year and shit maps to run in last gen consoles.
5f71ea No.16073250
>>16070806
Its not just MGSV
>Play MGS2
>Learn Solidus kinda raised Raiden.
>Learn Solidus is only 10 years older than Raiden he was just a fucked up clone that aged way to fucking fast.
>There is this interesting backstory of a teenager in an adults body teaching a small child how to murder.
>Solidus was basically Murder Lion-O
>Its was a best friends forever relationship, Plus Murder.
>THEY DO NOTHING WITH THIS.
>Raiden murders him at the end of the game no fucks given.
I fucking hate Kojima
c183af No.16073259
>MGSV thread not being immediately derailed by konami drones
Holy shit, have they finally left us alone? Can we finally talk about MGS and have fun without the same 2 niggers shitting up the thread?
cfc699 No.16073286
>>16073250
Raiden originally cuts down and drapes the American flag over Solidus's body at the end of the game, but they had to censor that too. So the scene plays out, just with no flag.
I'm still mad about this.
5f71ea No.16073294
>>16073286
>Raiden originally cuts down and drapes the American flag over Solidus's body at the end of the game, but they had to censor that too. So the scene plays out, just with no flag.
They cut out what would have been the greatest scene in MGS history due to censorship.
Fuck this gay earth.
144ad2 No.16073406
>>16071024
In Metal Gear 2 you can find children in Zanzibar Land. Those are war orphans and Big Boss outright says Zanzibar Land is a nation of soldiers that runs on perpetual conflict training those war orphans from each new conflict into being new soldiers for newer conflicts. War for the sake of it because soldiers need war, and war needs soldiers.
Big Boss's tale is a great man who ends up broken and falling from grace.
c8b14c No.16073440
>>16073294
Not to mention Arsenal Gear demolishing Manhattan was censored due to 9/11.
b1b3b7 No.16073447
>>16073440
I think the Arsenal Gear pancaking the city is still in the files, just as a still shot thats never shown. I believe it goes right to the twin towers.
750644 No.16073455
>>16070806
Ground Zeroes was also much darker than anything after MGSV intro.
b1b3b7 No.16073464
>>16073455
The leaked concept art was also extremely gritty, with grown up chico missing part of his face and kaz completely caked in blood like demon snake. Damn shame they didn't stick with that direction.
750644 No.16073479
>>16073406
>>16073406
This actually fits perfectly in his warped view of the Boss dream. That whole talk about creating a nation of soldiers.
750644 No.16073496
The worst thing is that they actually advertized the whole thing as being as dark and brutal as the intro and Ground Zeroes. With the trailer focusing on stuff like "Men become demons" and stuff like that. Hinting on Big Boss killing children… Kojima fucking promised he would tie this game with the other Metal Gear games where big boss is the villain, showing his final descent into madness.
Instead, in the game we got, Big Boss is some generic action hero.
77ad29 No.16073526
>>16073455
>Ground Zeroes was also much darker than anything after MGSV intro.
What about Voices or Shining Lights, Even In Death?
c183af No.16073545
>>16073526
Those 2 missions were the few things that survived Konami's cuckery. Remember, FOX engine was abysmal and the konami wanted it to run on ps/360.
9da709 No.16073581
>>16070806
>If the rest of the game had kept a similar tone/felt more like Ground Zeroes
But Ground Zeroes is already a chapter of MGS5. Its story doesn't even end until you complete the Paz sidequest.
a519c3 No.16073585
I wholeheartedly believe /v/ will never be as fun a board to be on as it was during the pre-release MGSV hype train.
190b96 No.16073598
>>16073545
>it's all bad
>ok some things are good
>just disregard them
How does it feel to be a complete tool for the goons? You're repeating cheap anti-jap gaming lies. The same shit that had idiots running around saying that GZ lasted 20 minutes.
aea9fc No.16073610
>>16070806
>It wasn't bad my any means, it was actually very good
Kill yourself immediately, you're too retarded to live, and if you consider TPP intro to be good you're probably below bottomfeeding scum of capeshit watchers.
>Morally opposed to cloning, has no problem with brainwashing and plastic surgery as a decoy
>except the purpose of a decoy is invalidated because they're in the same fucking hospital, the same fucking floor, the same FUCKING ROOM and
THERE ARE ONLY TWO (2) BEDS
>Big Medic never looked at his left arm until his doctor told him to.
>Big Medic got a full facial reconstruction and potentially a good old Michael Jackson treatment that fully healed in 24 hours.
>Quiet comes in with no firearms (not sure if it's better or worse than the next point)
>A group of XOF retards storms a building with primary weapons being bootleg RPG-7
>Big slosh gives you digoxin (it causes heart failure in fetuses for abortion, used to be heart flutter medicine), which does nothing for muscle atrophy (you were supposed to have regular therapy to prevent that from happening in the first place)
>go out the room knowing the assault is going in
>head for the elevator regardless because you're a pair of retards and not "greatest soldier that has ever lived" and his "best man he's ever got who listened to "Big Boss' Uncut snake eating" for last 9 years"
>Mantis does the floor thing from Twin Snakes
>You go for the stairs, and a team throws a smoke grenade to blind themselves
>they somehow manage to walk through a corridor without killing themselves, random patient grabs you by the ankle and starts yelling
>XOF dude #48 notices that, and drags him away, without ever checking what or whom exactly was he grabbing
>XOF fucks never look under a bed
>corridor with massacred, dead bodies that XOF dudes triple or quintuple tap
>only 2 guys aren't covered in blood
>Let's not shoot them, instead fuck around and setup le epic fiery asshurt man to save the day
>Male to Female transmutation magic turns an SMG into a Pistol
>Ruining the ambulance by crashing it into a wall, but it regenerates so they drive away
Boy am I glad Kojima fired the military advisor
For the intro to be anywhere near "good" it'd need to be rewritten entirely
aea9fc No.16073657
>>16073545
>the konami wanted it to run on ps/360.
Because Vice President of Konami, Hideo Kojima released ground zeroes in ps3/x360.
But keep forgetting the following details
>TPP had 8 years of total development time, 3 years for fucks engine, and 5 for TPP alone
>Final budget was at 80 million dollars
>Game was delayed twice
HIDEO KOJIMA WAS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF KONAMI
>>16073526
>Shining Lights, Even In Death?
PFFFHAHAHAHAHA
<oh no big emotional scene where you kill your own dudes so sad.
>do a single FOB and get a dozen superior ones
The only feelings that mission invoked was desire to play peace walker where your staff actually grew along with Mother Base/Outer Heaven, the only casualty of that mission was the Peace Walker theme.
>>16073545
>Konami's cuckery
I'm sure Konami is behind Code Talker, WOLBACHIA, Male to Female, and not a single original character in the game having an actual name except Malak.
26332f No.16073661
>>16073610
Alright, but there's a difference between military accuracy and just telling a story. Doesn't excuse any of that shit, but you sound like you're caught up on shit that doesn't necessarily contribute to the tone or plot.
c106a9 No.16073662
>>16070865
Fuck you, Digg-nigger
aea9fc No.16073673
>>16073661
>the main enemy force that's hyped up to be ruthless masterminds cannot even kill two comatose men in their 50's
>>16073661
>but there's a difference between military accuracy and just telling a story
Not when the story involves military dudes doing retarded shit and not getting called out on it like firing 3 shots from a twin-barrel in CoJ: Gunslinger.
>>>/bioware/
77ad29 No.16073688
>>16073657
>oh no big emotional scene where you kill your own dudes so sad.
No one talked about emotional scenes, it was about darker missions.
aea9fc No.16073721
>>16073688
>killing zombies is now dark
I hope you mean it's dark because of low light.
9b11fb No.16073744
>>16070806
>If the rest of the game had kept a similar tone/felt more like Ground Zeroes it would have been nightmarish and absolutely incredible.
It's what I was expecting.
730bf0 No.16075132
>>16070806
>This game is full of really jarring tonal whiplash.
Yep. Mostly because Kojima wanted one thing and Konami wanted the other. Who exactly wanted what is a million dollar question.
>idontknowwhoisjewingwhoanymore.png
The whole TPP was intended to be dark and bloody, with "it's an atrocity, but it works" decisions advancing the story.
Venom Snake was not going to grow horns and be covered in blood because of shooting a bunch of Russian conscripts or accidentally running over an animal too many. Venom Snake was intended to go through the same experiences that made Big Boss a cynical, disilussioned, vicious warmonger - betrayal, physical and mental torture, mass murder, etc.
The game was intended to be much darker; instead it looks like someone took a boxcutter to the original script and sliced out random parts of it, and financial/time constraints finished the job. Instead of a serious, coherent plot we got a bunch of patchwork missions half of which have no connection to the story and a shitload of cut content (guards in the game were supposed to have dogs that would sniff you out, for example) that we only know was supposed to be there through guesswork and hints.
A good 40% of locations in the game aren't even relevant to the story and there is zero explanation for the enemy presence in the game altogether. Okay, I can maybe understand Russian troops occupying old Afghan forts after driving the hajis out, but why would there be three extremely massive and well-equipped PMCs occupying an empty patch of land in Africa? The only explanation we get is "Skull Face has moved to Africa, hurr".
You never get to see your soldiers in action, because the game's engine won't allow it. You cannot pilot a tank built specifically for you because "it would be overpowered and we couldn't bother to design gameplay for it anyway". The plotline is a shitshow that see-saws you between relevant events and pointless missions that create a shitton of loose ends and leave them like that. The game's entire ending was simply cut and a castrated substitute quickly thrown in. The bossfights are half-baked, Skull Face's amazing potential as a tragic villain is flushed straight down the toilet, characters in general are very badly fleshed out - no one's motivation can be discerned. "He/she helps us/opposes us because, well, it just is that way".
This can go on and on. MGSV is essentially an unfinished game stuffed with filler content to bulk it up. There's maybe 20% of the original script running through it and barely managing to hold it together. It's only redeeming feature are extremely responsive, smooth and intuitive controls. Shame, really. I loved it even in its released, mangled iteration; it could've been a masterpiece.
45cc22 No.16075149
>>16070826
>5 was my first mgs
d501e0 No.16075159
>>16075149
I know anon. A-At least I stopped playing it after the intro and decided to go back and play them all chronologically starting with the pre mgs 1 games. Which I still havent done
3790a9 No.16075189
>>16075149
5 wasn't my first, but it was the only one I played all the trhough (unless we count revengeance but I don't think anyone does). I tried playing 3 and the controls were fucking awful, and then I tried 4 and got sick of hour after hour of cutscene and controls only being marginally better. 5 had fucking buttery smooth controls and great gameplay, and I couldn't give half a shit about the story.
893ad9 No.16077174
>>16070806
I really like it when MGS does supernatural shit. There should've been more sections like in the hospital where the Third Boy and Man on Fire fuck with you and the enemies, except not locking you in a cutscene, of course. The intro for The Phantom Pain was so fucking ridiculous that I thought Snake was hallucinating most of it. I wish it had more of those supernatural, horror-inspired moments. But some of that is me wishing Silent Hills wasn't shitcanned.
Also, Skull Face should've stalked the player as a hallucination after his death
654255 No.16077308
>>16073250
>>16073661
Ever notice how in 4 snake holds EVERY SINGLE weapon with a knife also in hand? Or how the placement of said knife stopped making sense in 4 and went full mad in GZ/TPP? It's on the fucking back not for any other reason that it looks cool to pull out in those one-button interrogations. See ya later, ergonomics and safety. It looked good in 3, and 2 had a penis-knife (still better). Speaking of GZ/TPP, all the fucking guns are a mashup of at least two different IRL firearms vs. all the other games which have it pretty accurate, keeping it "Tactical" to a degree.
at least the venom model looks good
2d47d5 No.16077311
654255 No.16077335
>>16075159
>>16075149
The worst thing about TPP is that it was current. Jewtube culture wasn't booming in 2008 (4) or even 2010 (PW), so coming out at the peak of "gamer youtube" and the sandbox trend (debatable) it was a franchise-defining game in the eyes of the normalcattle. In 5 years' time they will look back and say "i loved that metal gear game, wish they made more like it!"
It's like thi4f or DNF or even DMC: fuck you. Like a monkey's paw wish.
398d6a No.16077350
>>16077308
The guns in TPP are different so they don't have to give gun companies royalties. It's why the other games haven't made it to PC. They got fucked for the same reason Tony Hawk games don't get rereleased.
0aaf76 No.16077353
>>16077335
>>16075132
Also the game mechanics and progression were gated behind annoying progress walls due to the push for extremely Jewish microtransactions.
654255 No.16077354
>>16077353
How could I fucking forget, they had the balls to sell videogame item insurance (motherbase, in this one), something rockstar had taken note of with gaytayay and rdr online.
bcfa66 No.16077373
>>16077350
Kiefer drank through the budget part meant for weapon licensing.
>>16077354
GTA:O came out first.
Kojima was really inspired by GTA V.
>>16077353
Fun fact, the progress bar on weapon development and deployments doesn't update in real time.
i.e. 3 hours timer won't have the bar look half-filled after 90 minutes.
7bf0d8 No.16077390
>>16070806
The intro wasn't fun to replay, it was painfully obvious that Ground Zeroes was the original intro level before being cut and sold as a standalone demo
bcfa66 No.16077410
>>16077389
you actually play it twice, 2nd time has a retarded twist that isn't physically possible as it requires Ocelot to be in two places at the same time or travel through time
893ad9 No.16077415
>>16077410
You talking about Snake getting on his bike as the sun rose? I thought that was the effect of the cigar make time go by faster
bcfa66 No.16077432
>>16077415
Big medic was comatose and kept secret, brought to cyprus in a coma as well (along with big boss)
Therefore he couldn't have known on his own which ship to board, or even to go to the correct port instead of any other or one of three airports
He had to be brought onto heiwa maru with ocelot which happened at around 3:30 AM (they end the chase at 3:07).
However, the speed date with big boss is taking place around 5AM, around sunrise, and the bridge is already collapsed from lightning, but by 5 AM they should've left in a hurry on the ship to go to afghanistan.
Also, Ocelot shouldn't even be able to meet big boss because by then he should've already lobotomized hypnotized himself to think big medic is the real big boss
c183af No.16077442
>>16073657
Kojima became vice president a few months before the game's release you fucking goon.
It was the higher ups that wanted to make the engine and make it run on ps/360, not Kojima.
>developent lasted 8 years
Did you pull this out of your ass you dumb nigger? Development started in early 2012, faggot.
>Game was delayed twice
What did you expect you dumb fuck, cucknami wanted the engine to be good for different genres and run on the piece of absolute trash 7th generation consoles. The platforms on motherbase are so far apart because these pieces of shit can only load 1 platform at a time. One fucking platform. Most of the development and budget was spent on this shit engine and Konami is to blame.
>hurr the wolbachia plot is stoopid
It was interesting and if you weren't a retarded goon you would know that this wasn't meant to be the game's main plot, but ended up being due to cucknami's incompetence.
7fc4f5 No.16077445
>>16077308
I don't mind Snake's ultra-CQC in 4. Having a knife on the back is super retarded, SC Double Agent did the same shit. One inch off when you sheath it and it's in your kidneys.
If there's one unforgivable thing about V it's how every rifle is slung with some multi-point abomination on the wrong fucking side of the body. You'd think they'd learn to leave it hang below the right shoulder like a normal 3-point, especially since it looks easy as fuck to grapple with or block from being raised in CQC.
7fc4f5 No.16077452
>>16077432
>expecting consistency in timeline and plot when a time traveling cigar is usable
c183af No.16077468
>>16077445
Here's before I executed them
b348a7 No.16077481
>>16077432
I still don't quite understand the purpose of the convoluted "twist" in the story, besides Kojima thinking the game required some retarded twist in the first place.
Why not simply play the story straight and chronicle Big Boss' descent into villainy?
893ad9 No.16077525
>>16077481
Big Boss's treatment of Venom Snake is his descent into villainy. I think that was the point. He essentially did to Venom what the U.S. did to The Boss and used him as a pawn in a greater scheme. Sure, Zero concocted the whole thing, but BB signed off on it, and with using the people in the hospital as meat shields so he and Venom could escape. It's kind of the point where BB is willing to become what he despised in order to achieve his goals, I suppose.
6f32c3 No.16077543
c183af No.16077578
>>16077543
>heh bait
ID filtered
71c99d No.16077586
>>16077442
You could just save time and space by saying he dindu nuffin.
Its what all of this amounts to pretty much.
c183af No.16077595
>>16077586
>truly, kojima was planning for the game to fail all along! Konami would never fuckk up!
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0aaf76 No.16077621
All the venom snake stuff is either down to Kojima no longer seeing the phantom pain as a big boss story because of all the cuts or because Kojima thinks that a complicated story is somehow a good story. Either way he left the project very unhappy with the end result.
bcfa66 No.16077675
>>16077452
> time traveling cigar is usable
It's not time travel unless spending time with friends is a form of time travel as well because it makes you perceive time as flying faster
>>16077481
>Why not simply play the story straight and chronicle Big Boss' descent into villainy?
Becasue that was peace walker that most of subhumans didn't even bother playing
>Big Boss takes money and resources from KGB
>Assists sandinistas to remove CIA niggers
>recruits child soldiers as staff members (chico)
>Decides that The Boss was gay and her vision was retarded so he builds a disgruntled veteran club off the shore of Costa Rica where soldiers can fight in any conflict for the sake of fighting on terms they decide.
>This goes on for 20 more years and they grow so big they move from the plant in Costa Rica to Africa
>MG1 happens.
>>16077442
The rise of Bait goes back approximately 160 million posts ago, to the moot period, at that time, it wasn't even bait but a predatory shitpost it is believed to be common ancestor to pretending to be retarded and shilling, however Imageboard environment underwent a violent change at the end of moot period. The cause is unclear, but the evidence suggests that over 90% of valuable posters at the time died out. The biggest threat to the proto-bait was the severe decrease in imageboard's non-retarded users.
>>16077525
>and with using the people in the hospital as meat shields so he and Venom could escape
For a decoy to be effective distraction, you need it far away from you and not in the same room you're in.
For example, a different hospital.
893ad9 No.16077676
I will say this, The Phantom Pain is the best incomplete game I've ever fucking played. I'm still figuring out all the shit you can do in the game. Took me four fucking years to figure you that when you extract a materials container, you can hop on it and interact with the fulton balloon to use the container as a hot extraction tool. Holy fuck, that made some of the missions a piece of cake if things went to shit
bcfa66 No.16077687
>>16077676
I'm afraid you might be retarded if you've never thought of standing on top of container you're stealing
A lot of early access games are better, and those at least have a chance of having content added for a complete experience, one of which being Lego Worlds
c183af No.16077691
>>16077687
>A lot of early access games are better
bcfa66 No.16077696
>>16077691
>he says while defending an early access game whose developer embezzled 80 million somewhere and fucked off to fleece sony
c183af No.16077706
>>16077696
>heh, you see, what really happened was kojima spent 80 million on some literally who actor. It wasn't konami wasting money on an engine, no. It was kojima who didn't know how to make a game after making good games all his life.
This is your brain on reddit
40c73e No.16077744
>>16077696
Are we supposed to give a shit if kojima stole from Sony?
bcfa66 No.16077790
>>16077706
I'm sure le epic 80's hits licensing fees are cheap (^:
2bea8f No.16077798
>>16077706
>making good games all his life.
First Metal Gear was nothing special, Snatcher and Policenauts are overrated point and click westaboo fanfictions with retarded plots, Peace Walker was a casualized rip off Portable Ops, MGS 4 was a more of a movie than a game, MGS 5 is an unfinished game.
c183af No.16077819
>>16077798
shit opinions
>>16077790
They for sure don't cost more than $100,000
864cef No.16077835
>>16077696
>80 million dollars is a lot for a AAA title with decades of successful titles
>>16077744
He probably also thinks Shrekali is a bad guy for ripping of insurance companies
2bea8f No.16078078
>>16077835
They had more than enough, MGS 5 main failure was the story, characters and dialogues. Shit Kojmbo was supposed to be good at
45cc22 No.16078092
>>16078078
>They had more than enough
Nah, he should have bankrupted Konami.
2bea8f No.16078149
>>16078092
Konami doesn't give a fuck and just rapes their IPs on a pachinko machine, laughing all the way to the bank after they finish. Only people that got hurt financially were MGS fans that bought an unfinished game. WHAT A RUSE.
4fddbb No.16078150
>>16077798
Fuck you mgs one was great, as were 2 and 3. Mgs4s story sections were annoying but the gameplay in it was top notch and mgo was incredible. MGSV has amazing gameplay, but got fucked by konami being not only greedy little kikes, but due to the falling out between VP kojima and P whateverthe fuck his name was.
2bea8f No.16078220
>>16078150
First Metal Gear game not Metal Gear Solid you underage nigger. MGS 2 was a let down compared to MGS 1 spastic fanboys always had a problem with this fact. MGS 3 was done at a time when Konami was at the top of their game and Kojimbo faggotry was curbed after the backlash they got with MGS 2. MGS V is like a racing game with great gameplay mechanics but with only 2 simple race tracks.
376c5c No.16078269
>tfw remembering the president who mistook Raiden for a woman and tried to grab him by the pussy
God damn, MGS2 really was ahead of its time.
e1b29d No.16082332
It still wouldn't have topped Snake Eater.
45cc22 No.16082347
>>16082332
Isn't that from a pachinko machine?
745307 No.16082362
>>16075149
The majority of MGS is a shit, so its cool to at least have a game not made for virgin niggers, lmao.
8ffa3e No.16082402
>>16075132
Weren't they in Africa because of yellowcake uranium
69f42d No.16082710
>>16070806
Nah, you hit the nail on the head. The intro felt more like the tone that we were expecting, then the rest of the story was just boring.
>never got to see Big Boss go full nuclear
>story didn’t deal with all those “taboos” Kojima talked about and teased in Ground Zeroes
>Chico went absolutely nowhere after GZ led us to believe he was going to play and interestesting role in V(not to mention the leaked concept art to rub salt in the wound)
MGSV was the nail in the coffin for me and ever getting hype for vidya again. It’s amazing how good everything looked and how fun GZ was, only for it all to be thrown out the fucking window for the final game.
bfe821 No.16082747
>>16082710
Remember those "Chico is Quiet" theories?
100b4a No.16082813
>>16073440
I never got why all mentions of the Twin Towers or buildings collapsing got censored after 9/11. You'd think that they would want to keep it as fresh in people minds as possible, since it was the jumping off point for the War on Terror that was being sold to the public at the time.
6f32c3 No.16083034
Can we stop using the 360/PS3 excuse for MGSV? GTA V was on those consoles and had a more lively world with more NPCs, cops, criminals, gangs, civilians, dogs and then we go to the wilderness and get wildlife. MGSV is a much better game than GTA of course, but the technical limitation isn't an excuse. GTA V's map is pretty large as well, maybe even as large as Africa and Afghanistan put together and its not even separated, its one big connected open world. Plus all of the ocean you can swim in and all of its underwater depths you can explore. Hell, Kojima even said he felt depressed and that MGSV wouldn't be able to match GTA. https://uk.please use archive.ism/articles/2013/07/11/hideo-kojima-depressed-by-grand-theft-auto-v
The main reason MGSV turned out like it did was of course Konami fucking the team over during development, but the team itself was out of its element. The game was too ambitious and Kojima couldn't get a handle on his ideas guy side of things. He had all of those grand ideas for MGSV but they could barely implement some of the basics.
b4aab4 No.16083057
>>16073526
Shining Lights had no emotional impact if you've seen even ONE zombie movie in your life. It's LITERALLY the "oh no my family/loved ones/dog is infected and I have no choice but to kill it before it becomes a zombie." shit.
Voices was nice, though.
33bffd No.16083071
>>16073440
That's a cut I've never had a problem with. Having the game jump straight to a ruined Federal Hall is a good way of representing Raiden's confusion with what is happening.
174c37 No.16083128
>>16073259
>no kojidornes sucking his nip dong
>no hateboner for kojima and his meme movies
fuck it actually looks like a fun thread
174c37 No.16083149
>>16082813
i dont think is about not keeping it fresh but to avoid giving fuckos weird ideas
like they never tell you specific details about a suicide to avoid copycats…. funnily enough they give you shitloads of details for mass shooting or serial killer
f8d099 No.16083571
>>16073673
> That Pic
That HAD to be intentional. There's no way they could've fucked up that badly.
69a35b No.16083614
>>16083571
Your delusions are why the jews continue to win.
f2c7f0 No.16083631
>>16083614
I don't think incompetence of their slaves equals them winning.
905b14 No.16083690
>>16082747
>Remember those "Chico is Quiet" theories?
Farewell Sausage.
>>16082347
905b14 No.16083708
>>16083034
> The game was too ambitious and Kojima couldn't get a handle on his ideas guy side of things. He had all of those grand ideas for MGSV
Yeah, like 40 hours of bullshit tapes about ass parasites and wolbachia, and bootleg hamburglar selling suicide-bombing mecha that doesn't even fucking work to third worlders.
Fuck you.
The biggest inspiration he took from GTAV was implementing online insurance that you pay for with real money.
They took Peace Walker, but somehow turned every aspect of it into shit and braindead retards like you eat it up, calling it GOTY, of a misunderstood and abused maestro.
>>16083057
>oh no my family/loved ones/dog is infected
You mean completely expendable NPC dummy that gets removed silently with no notification when you get a superior staff member for the same team?
You kill like what, 12 guys total? You can buy 24 better ones in bulk through PF points.
edec07 No.16083896
>>16083128
>>16073259
are you trying to curse it or something anon?
e1b29d No.16084158
Maybe this was intentional. That still doesn't make it okay,
2e5449 No.16086891
>>16082747
Why did Laughing Octopus look so different to the person she was modelled after? The rest of the B&B unit look like their real life models.
f198b6 No.16087071
>>16083034
>GTA V was on those consoles and had a more lively world with more NPCs, cops, criminals, gangs, civilians, dogs and then we go to the wilderness and get wildlife.
Actually GTAV turns the physics off in a set distance around you and spawns things within a set distance like every GTA game. In fact the distance for turning the physics off is shorter then IV or dare i say San Andreas. This is why drivers suddenly do weird shit when you go at certain speeds.
45cc22 No.16087088
>>16087071
Plus it runs like shit on PS3.