4eb988 No.16061828
TODD ON DAMAGE CONTROL
https://archive.is/Fb4aA
>The release of a new patch for Fallout 76 appears to have reintroduced old problems with the game, players report.
>One such issue has to do with the weight of bobby pins. When Fallout 76 launched, players complained bobby pins were much heavier than they should have been. A single bobby pin weighed 0.1lbs, which meant 60 of the things weighed the same as a mini nuke. For a game so bogged down by over encumbrance, bobby pin weight was a problem. On 10th January, Bethesda fixed the issue with a patch that reduced the weight value of bobby pins from 0.1 to 0.001. But the big patch that came out yesterday, 29th January, appears to have reintroduced the original bobby pin weight. I popped onto the post-apocalyptic open-world adventure to verify the reports, and, yes, bobby pins weigh 0.1lbs again.
>Players are also reporting the patch reverts the game in other areas too, including fusion core spawn rates at workshops (fusion cores are required in order to fuel power armour) and dreaded item duping exploits.
>A Bethesda community manager called Ladydevann said the complaints were being discussed with the development team, so hopefully they will be addressed soon. But there are new bugs, too. There's a big bulk crafting bug, for example, and the sweeping changes to perks have sparked some to call on Bethesda to refund skill points.
>It's not great news for a game that never seems far from difficulty. The patch has made some welcome improvements to the game. For example, when viewing a plan or recipe in a menu, a known tag now appears next to those you already have - a change long-called for by the community. It's a shame then, that as Bethesda battles to win the hearts and minds of its disgruntled fanbase, its latest effort has caused more issues than it's fixed.
ff9693 No.16061847
Even reddit stopped defending this game.
37bc6e No.16061856
>>16061828
And now, bethesda is purposely tanking their own game.
Better just cut their losses and try again.
89e62c No.16061881
>>16061828
I still wonder if this entire clusterfuck was Todd trying to prove that the GameByro/Creation Engine could outdo the modified HeroEngine(the same fucking bugs and glitches from SWTOR) that Elder Scrolls Online uses by making Fallout 76 use that hunk of junk.
a033b9 No.16061967
The hits just keep on coming.
Has anyone started the 'Time Until F2P' clock yet? Or maybe the countdown started once it hit beta?
125802 No.16061992
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
THE REAL QUESTION
If you could push a button that transferred ownership of Fallout to Bad Dragon, would you push it?
0c17a7 No.16062014
>>16061992
No, because TwinTail Creations is better.
cd847c No.16062046
56f494 No.16062075
man the Bethesda madness just never stops
adcde2 No.16062090
How many individual times have they fucked up with this game now since release? Like seven?
125802 No.16062118
>>16062090
>Only seven
lol no
adcde2 No.16062161
>>16062118
>Thirty four videos
>Ignoring video 5 being about a fan mod being more interesting than the game, only thirteen of those are on prerelease blunders and bad development decisions.
Fucking hell.
113392 No.16062219
What has Todd been doing doing this shitshow? Has he appeared in public anywhere?
cff8a7 No.16062464
http://archive.vn/slKr6
http://archive.vn/pmfdE
http://archive.vn/EnbmO
The Forums and Reddit attempted to purge some of it too, with random reddit posts being deleted without warning and a thread getting locked for "bashing each other" even though the thread went pretty smooth.
4d2c7c No.16062475
"All press is good press" the game.
cc415b No.16062523
Why the fuck should Bethesda even care? The retarded nigger cattle are STILL going to preorder TES6 and the next mainline Fagout game.
e9acdf No.16062529
>>16062523
They're apparently being hit by a series of lawsuits in relation to false advertising in relation to fallout 76. Just watched a video on it. And this isn't related to the whole bag thing, this is about the game not delivering on its promises, and the eulas and arbitration trying to prevent anyone from suing them after the clusterfuck. Besides, everyone said the same for battlecuck 5, until now where it tanked so hard it went on a firesale like a week after its release, same as Fallout 76.
77babf No.16062590
>>16062523
Because Fo76 is the thing that funds TES6. If F76 doesn't pan out, then Beth has to ask investors to lower their own dividends, buy more stock or issue bonds. If Beth can't even do a Fallout MMO after they've successfully made a TES MMO, why would any investor trust them with more money?
cc415b No.16062602
>>16062590
>Because Fo76 is the thing that funds TES6
I fucking doubt it. Skyrim and Fallout 4 sold so many fucking copies that I'm sure they could ride on that money for a while.
7f6e86 No.16062614
>TES IV uses Creation Engine 2.0
Calling it now, spergs.
e9acdf No.16062616
>>16062614
>TESIV
>TES4
Ten years too late, pal.
a033b9 No.16062618
>>16062602
They have a warchest, sure, but they've got a large staff and they'll be defending themselves in court; which isn't cheap to do as a company.
Hell, if they actually lost in court, the judge could shit on them with a fine so large it'd jeopardize their whole operation.
e425ab No.16062620
>>16061847
Believe it or not cuckchan defends it now.
1634f5 No.16062621
crack with private servers when?
2da158 No.16062631
>>16062620
Every major game developer has paid teams of people to go to major internet forums and social media to promote and shill their shitty game. Those threads praising them are almost certainly from them
dd4f64 No.16062649
>>16062642
Why does he sound like a 19-year-old? Todd was in his mid 30's when TES4 came out.
e425ab No.16062653
>>16062631
Normally I'd agree but that place is so amazingly fucked up I can believe the anons there are genuinely that stupid now.
7f6e86 No.16062660
>>16062642
Quality lip syncing.
e9acdf No.16062661
>>16062631
They also cushion community outrage and try to divert anger away to keep people placated and calm. Reddit is essentially their meccah when it comes to this. It not only has easily corruptible and greedy moderators who will do the companies bidding for a pittance or for some favorable treatment, but the upvote/downvote system allows them to alter public opinion to a degree to get the desired outcomes. It's only when things really and truly hit the wall that they can't control the narrative any longer. There have been some videos on this about how easily manipulate able and effective reddit is for marketing, if there ever needed to be any more reasons to hate reddit.
2da158 No.16062662
>>16062649
Todd is around 5'6"-5'7". When you're that short you're voice is high forever. This is why the /fit/ term "permachild" is used. You're forever stuck as a short little runt with a little kids voice
dd4f64 No.16062668
>>16061847
The basic consensus over there is "we tried as hard as we could to like your game, but even us diehard fanboys know your shit stinks".
2da158 No.16062675
>>16062668
These same redditors who hate Fallout 76 loved Fallout 4 and praised it to high heavens despite it stripping away almost everything that made Fallout what it was, a post apocalyptic RPG
e9acdf No.16062715
>>16062662
Isn't markiplier like 5'7 and sounds like a radio host? I also know a manlet who has a deep commanding voice, despite being tiny as fuck, like 5'6 or something. You probably shouldn't listen to the gay workout board for scientific answers.
fc9eed No.16062949
>>16062715
this tbh, I'm 5'8" and my voice is deep like an 80 years old chainsmoker
94eb84 No.16063025
>>16062662
>When you're that short you're voice is high forever
That`s the dumbest thing I`ve ever heard
ee4189 No.16063048
All they had to do was make Borderlands but with a Fallout skin. Fuck sake, Cuckbox nailed that back in 2009 and Bethesda with their many more millions and "experience" with both the games and engine meant good things. They fucked up royally.
60e792 No.16063067
How is it they have fucked up this much and the team has not been fired? No good press has come from this game since it launched and every time they do anything they make everything somehow even worse.
98536f No.16063091
>>16063067
>the team has not been fired?
Probably nepotism
9ef657 No.16063103
>>16062620
are you talking about /fog/? cuckchan's /vg/ is even worse than full /vg/
d0c6da No.16063108
The real story here is that there are still people playing F76. That's more embarrassing than anything Bethesda has done.
5a1633 No.16063137
>>16063103
Neofag mods in action.
9ef657 No.16063148
>>16063137
might be reddit, who knows what kind of poz festers that shithole these days. after a certain point, it all blends together, my guess is on reddit since there is those shitty joker memes
659376 No.16063154
>>16063103
Cuckchan is basically tumblr-tier now, and all boards are basically like that, so if you hate this place there's no reason on earth you'd ever want to go to cuckchan
659376 No.16063162
>>16062662
your height has nothing to do with your voice. Midgets have high voices because their vocal chords are underdeveloped, like everything else in their body
48397c No.16063169
>>16062668
Holy shit, what a disgusting soyboy. I wouldn't be surprised to see these subhumans continue licking Bethesda's boots and sucking it's dick.
9ef657 No.16063177
>>16062668
>die hard fallout fan
that never played fallout 1 or 2 due to "bad graphics" and never even heard of tactics
43074b No.16063189
>>16063103
Wait a minute i recognise that shitposting
9ef657 No.16063205
>>16063189
it's just generic "le 2 ironic meme funny 4 u XD" reddit speak when somebody says something they have no argument for, or they want to show you how silly you are
8c38e8 No.16063211
>>16063205
>Cuckchan is this cucked
I knew it was bad but sweet lord almighty this is rancid!
16cfb4 No.16063264
>>16061828
> Ladydevann
sounds like tranny pajeet
48397c No.16063282
>>16063205
4redditors
cuckchan
4cuck
4reddit
4eddit
dd4f64 No.16063287
>>16063282
I don't think I've heard any of these other than cuckchan and 4cuck. Though 4redditors is pretty accurate considering the state of the website.
127fdf No.16063296
>>16063205
>filename
Like a tried and true redditor.
1a300b No.16063310
>>16062662
His voice is obviously a bug.
659376 No.16063317
>>16063178
You're not wrong
28bb11 No.16063326
>>16063148
The issue with this is that redditors like to pretend they matter far more than they actually do. If you find a group of redditors claiming to be some kind of evil empire, they aren't. Look at this shit, the "gamers rise up" stuff got co-opted and turned into "I'm going to say the n-word" memes in a few weeks. Now twitter is on fire with people spamming nigger, and for some fucking reason they still wont ban you so long as you post it sequentially. Redditors try to post ironic memes to make twitter nazis look bad, and then said twitter nazis just steal it, improve it and use it.
659376 No.16063330
>>16063326
your entire post and all discussion about the subject can be summed up nicely, "reddit is the ass cancer of the internet"
01beb9 No.16063331
>>16063177
To be fair, my first Fallout game was Tactics and going to the previous 2 after that one was really jarring.
No control over your party, worse resolution, you don't see both weapon slots unless you open the inventory, builds being about what gameplay options you want open this run instead of being about party composition, etc.
It really made for an awfull experience.
Then again, I was a kid back then and actually enjoyed the real-time combat they implemented for Tactics. It wasn't until many years later that I figured turn-based combat actually allowed me to use all those grenades I was stockpiling and do far more with the targetting system.
I still think their real time component was pretty solid but it's only as effective as the player can make use of it and mostly usefull for simple encounters to run much faster.
I also think there's a massive exageration on the hatred that Fallout 3/4 (but not 76) get simply because there's a psychological need to dunk on Bethesda.
It's not that there's nothing to complain about or that those are good games to begin with, but rather that there's many cheap critiques made that have very simple explanations behind them. Explanations that don't excuse them but explain why things were done like that and sometimes a genuinely good concept that was badly executed.
Take for instance the Water Purifier from Fallout 3. It's a throwback to the first game having water being the McGuffin you're looking for, making a central plot out of that before throwing it out in favor of a previously hidden faction that's now threatening the wasteland.
They aren't "all fighting to start the water purifier which makes no sense", they are fighting to control it. It's a very important resource (if we accept that radiation has turned purified water into a scarce resouce) and whoever controls it, controls the Capital Wasteland.
This doesn't excuse the irradiated water, the badly used concept of GECK, the dumb portrayal of both BoS and Enclave, the stupid plan by President Eden, that the water purifier had to be made specifically there and not somewhere else, etc.
But claiming that this was just dumb decisions with no thinking behind them isn't accurate. There was an attempt. Several even. They just aren't very good at this.
Same thing with "go anywhere" mentality and level-scaling. Everyone claims this is incredibly stupid and a terrible idea but those aren't actually bad concepts, they are just badly executed.
"Go anywhere" is just "have no invisible walls or locked doors blocking your exploration!" which I think a lot of players would prefer over "You can't go in that direction!" or "Door Locked - Requires Key"
However Bethesda ends up compromising their main idea frequently both by including those limitations but also by implementing level-scaling to make sure no area is above your capacity.
What if level-scaling was based on distance from civilization instead of your own level? Does that sound like such an horrible idea?
The further you go away from the big cities, the more dangerous things become with a clear design that you can understand with simple common sense and control far better simply by walking a bit.
You can even have NPCs comment on it, much like "Stay in the roads!" guards told you in Oblivion.
So you could have a game that actually let's you "go anywhere" and even has level scaling, but it's not an horrible mess of a game because it does make sense. You can open that tomb even if you haven't a key to go there but you're several miles away from civilization and now your lvl 3 dumb hero is gonna get fried by a lvl 47 Lich.
Again, they make the games the way they do because they have a base concept they want to work with. And because it's not inherently a bad concept, they won't ditch it. It's just that they are terrible at executing it and everyone ends up blaming the concept instead of the execution.
1a300b No.16063344
>>16063331
>much like "Stay in the roads!" guards told you in Oblivion.
Which was always horrible advice because that's where the bandits with ebony armor were.
02545f No.16063360
>>16062662
/fit/ is one of the most delusional boards around and filled with betas.
b620a2 No.16063382
>>16063103
>deleted posts
It's like a reverse 8fag. Only difference is that the shitposting is worse.
>>16063154
Almost this. From the few times I've checked in the vain hope some of the boards would be better than 8cock; because of the amount of users, I've come across better posts than nu8fag, but they're so rare amongst a sea of idiotic one-liner shitposts that it isn't really worth it, it can be pretty mixed at times, really depends on who's working and what board, I think.
I just want a home with other mavericks where discussions happen within the day and are able to be fun, serious or both, like before. It really hurts. ;_;
01beb9 No.16063384
>>16063344
Technically, it's good advice depending on where you are.
Bandits with Ebony Armor sound bad but at least it's not Minotaurs that liquify your armor with spells or Daedra that can paralize or bypass armor, which start to show up later on.
At least the bandits can be outrun and most magic works on them.
It was doubly so if you were playing Oscuro Overhaul since that actually implemented what I suggested.
The further away from civilization and the deeper in a dungeon you were, the higher the level of the enemies you'd find with no level scaling at all.
It made the caves near Skingrad easy peasy, just some goblins and rats to kill, but Ayeleid ruins deep in the woods were full of some pretty evil shit.
905124 No.16063385
Not a single week has gone by without some form of bad news about Fallout 76.
It's the game that keeps on giving.
a22796 No.16065007
>>16061828
>TODD ON DAMAGE CONTROL
Todd and Pete are in hiding. Fallout 76 was such a disaster that they had to build a literal bomb shelter and hide away in an underground vault while they waited for their Fallout to pass.
dc9f82 No.16065908
>>16063331
>What if level-scaling was based on distance from civilization instead of your own level?
That's not level-scaling. That's just creating difficulty zones. Level-scaling is used specifically to refer to the act of scaling enemy strength and loot value based on the player's level. It means scaling the world to the player character's level.
>or locked doors blocking your exploration!
Exploration isn't just about going wherever you want, though. Having a locked door means making you explore and search to find a key. And, without locked doors, there's not much reason to have lock-picking, something that anyone playing a thief character would want to actually make use of. Plus, BotW tried the whole "you can go anywhere at anytime" thing, and a lot of its issues stem exactly from that.
cff8a7 No.16065927
a22796 No.16066125
>>16065908
>That's not level-scaling. That's just creating difficulty zones.
That sounds like a good idea actually, they should just do that. Maybe even have certain zones being more dangerous than others, and tie it to the lore - or a quest, so it prevents or at least dissuades you from triggering it too early? Hell, they could probably get a pretty nice flow to exploration and introduce the game world to the player gradually while still keeping an open world that lets you go everywhere and do anything.
The only problem is, how would you keep the player from getting bored in areas they're too high of level for or had previously cleared out. If only they could come up with some sort of a fast travel solution like a horse or something, or hell - just let the player flat out teleport to an area near the higher level zones provided they've already been there.
Goddamned Bethesda are fucking lazy
e0dbe8 No.16066143
>>16066125
>That sounds like a good idea actually, they should just do that.
New Vegas did that. Most good RPGs, and even a lot of bad ones, do that. It's not like it's a revolutionary new concept. Back before level scaling existed, or became the standard, it was what pretty much everyone did.
16cfb4 No.16066187
>>16066125
>That sounds like a good idea actually, they should just do that.
That requires forethought in level design, besides braindead target audience wants to press button to get a dopamine release at the path of least resistance.
e5b44d No.16066193
>>16062668
I hate the fact that the term "fan" has come to mean anybody who will eat literal shit with a brand label on it
53d932 No.16066307
>>16066125
Maybe have events frequently come up in otherwise safe zones, such as a bandit raid on a town or a convoy of troops moving through. It would have to be enemies that could easily floor a low level character but won't attack you unless provoked.
6c9756 No.16066313
>>16065007
You mean a Fallout Shelter?
d3798e No.16066369
>>16063331
>I also think there's a massive exageration on the hatred that Fallout 3/4
I'll give you 3 (TTW would not be popular if people didn't actually like it) but no way in hell am I gonna let 4 slide.
Bethesda has had a problem ever since FO3 of making the gameplay better while worsening the story,
The main character of Fallout 4 fails at the most fundamental level not just from a fallout perspective (you replied to a post showing how 3 betrayed the hardcore rpg roots) but from a Bethesda perspective which is absolute player freedom.
The problems with 4 start at the beginning your character is pre-made some people incorrectly state this about the Lone Wanderer too but there are key differences.
In 3 the only things pre-decided are things the character has no control over (how their parent is, a surprise birthday party, how the overseer reacts when your dad leaves) keeping you tied to your character.
In Fallout 4 your character has made 3-4 major decisions without you (Housing, Marriage, Child, Career now the male could've been drafted but the female is a lawyer) separating you from the character.
All of this without mentioning the abomination that is the "Bioware's eternal cancer" voiced protag who's very existence leads to a knock on effect that in essence removes the dialogue system entirely and replaces it with the most bare bones mechanics of it.
9ef657 No.16066388
>>16066369
f4 is fine if you treat it like a console port of a non existent pc rpg by the same name. if you're treating f4 as an rpg, you're doing it wrong, it's a crafting survivalist fps with barebones rpg elements. it's more in vain of stalker, but with power armor and tacked on minecraft mechanics, I think that's what the poster in question means when he callsit an under rated game, because I see no other way to get enjoyment out of it
e8fa62 No.16066482
bethesda still exists. lel.
>caqs
e9f0e2 No.16066556
>mfw teenage me was wrong
>mfw multiplayer elder scrolls + fallout really is a dumb idea after all
63d52a No.16066566
>>16061856
>not posting the webm
it's like you want the mujahideen to win
e4b712 No.16066606
>>16063360
You can fuck off you DYEL faggot
838818 No.16066622
>>16063331
>So you could have a game that actually let's you "go anywhere" and even has level scaling, but it's not an horrible mess of a game because it does make sense. You can open that tomb even if you haven't a key to go there but you're several miles away from civilization and now your lvl 3 dumb hero is gonna get fried by a lvl 47 Lich
Games have already been doing that for a long time. Play gothic 1 and 2. They do that perfectly.
58091e No.16066629
>>16063103
I'm angry because there is a fortnite general in /vg/ and it's a legitimate thread instead of a huge joke.
5faf92 No.16066832
>>16062464
>and now duping is back
DUP BTFO
5faf92 No.16066838
>>16062675
The only thing I legitimately liked about Fallout 4 was the armour system, something they implemented in Morrowind and removed from further games until reemerging in Fallout 4. What a shit show.
Why the fuck did bethesda gain such a following? Because their games were open world? I don't get it.
5faf92 No.16066848
>>16063178
I'd say back end of 2014 it went that way, with MOOT going full SJW, deleting the GG threads on /v/ back then, the paste bin coming out of MOOT and his mods talking about all the GG threads and how to deal with dissenters, basically ban anyone who mentioned it, that's why I came here in the first place. On top of that he spammed cuck shit and changed /pol/ into /cuck/ because they kept making fun of him with that chick he went he paid to go on holiday with him, who he was acting like was his girlfriend in photos but really was just there for a free holiday and was getting dicked by a Chad.
That was all end of 2014.
74caad No.16066855
>>16066838
Even by today's standards, Morrowind's open world is large and by that year's standards was very open world. Sure it was a bit rough around the edges but it was very moddable (in an age where it was expected and regularly done) and and had rpg stats that actually fucking mattered.
More importantly, no-one else was doing games like them. STALKER is arguably a compeittor but they're very different animals beyond "large world you roam" However, these days you've got the Witcher series, Kingdom Come: Deliverance which was bloody buggy on launch, but has unfucked itself.
Those are still the only ones I can think of off the top of my head though. There's some youtuber that nailed why it's suddenly got shit for Bethesda; they had a monopoly on the type of game they made, people let the shitty bugs get away because they'd become a meme, but 76 is an open world 'survival' crafting thingy that there are fucking dozens of for a person to buy, and it's a shitty buggy messy crapfest compared to them.
bed911 No.16066906
>>16063162
>your height has nothing to do with your voice
ha
bed911 No.16066908
>>16062668
>been a huge fan of fallout for an long as I can remember
so what fallout 4?
bed911 No.16066916
>>16066143
>>16066125
>>16066187
>That sounds like a good idea actually, they should just do that
Morrowind did that, oblivion and onward didn't. Jsut take that in for a moment.
a20cef No.16066967
>>16062529
>lawsuits in relation to false advertising in relation to fallout 76
What about them not encrypting any of the player date? Isn't that a massive breach of privacy? This kind of stuff should get them fucking sued into oblivion honestly.
0a1a43 No.16067183
>>16066967
A Yuropoor could take them to court and theoretically end the company there by forcing them to pay quintuple of their net worth for data breach.
Problem is, you need find someone meeting all the following criteria
>not retarded
>bought Fallout 76
>Lives in a EU country,
8bbcd2 No.16067235
>>16063154
Reminder that cuck/a/ is predominantly women now.
9ef657 No.16067283
3e767c No.16067311
>>16062715
Gookiplier is also a fucking halfbreed, so you can’t go by that.
4006e9 No.16067396
This board is just as shit as cuckchan and it's hilarious that the zoomer fucks on this board act superior. Actually, this board is worse because the newfags here are delusional enough to believe this place is good. You're cancer, just like 4chan.
9a520d No.16067442
>>16067396
>t. pic related
9b42be No.16067459
>>16061828
>patching in old bugs
How is this even possible? Did they not change their internal version?
>>16067396
>insult 4chan
>YOU'RE ALL JUST AS BAD AS 4CHAN
Your fake smugness can't hide your butthurt lmao
9a520d No.16067467
>>16067459
> Did they not change their internal version?
Probably not, Bethesda isn't exactly a competent dev.
f20f85 No.16067498
>>16067467
>Raj, did you save version 1.24 to the company servers?
<the what? I was looking for sexier taller gf.
b87f36 No.16067537
>>16067396
>zoomer
Since you love cuckchan so much, maybe it's best for everyone that you go back there.
1a300b No.16067558
>>16067311
He's also had a couple million dollars worth of surgery done on him by his Disney exec parents.
a803eb No.16067588
>>16067183
>not retarded
>bought Fallout 76
Yeah, I don't think 500 million is going to be enough people to find one that meets those requirements.
32e937 No.16067722
>>16066906
Your testosterone determines the pitch of your voice.
5baac9 No.16070046
>>16062668
>The bugs that have existed since Fallout 4
He means since Morrowind.
01beb9 No.16079543
>>16066369
This is what I was talking about, you're pointing out a problem that the game has (pre-made voiced character) but you don't seem to have much interest in why it was made that way, when that's much more important, stiffling discussion from much worse problems that also need explanations nobody seems interested in getting. It's always the simplest, dumbest explanation that's prefered because it paints Bethesda in a bad light, when you actually can Occam's Razor it even more for explanations that tell you a LOT more and arguably paint Bethesda in a worse light.
You didn't got a voiced protag in 4 because "muh emotional dialogue" like some faggot from Bethesda said. You got it because every third person adventure game at the momement had it, like Uncharted and Tomb Raider. Nathan Drake alone was the biggest draw for fans of the Uncharted series and Bethesda saw this, wanting an iconic character to rally their playerbase beyond a nickname like "Lone Wanderer" that's not as powerfull.
Bethesda chasing trends is nothing new, Oblivion looked like it did because of what games were popular at the time and even Skyrim was stylized over Game of Thrones for the same reason.
Instead of complaining about voiced protag because "Bethesda thinks this will make an higher emotional impact with the player", complain that they are trend-chasers that do what's popular with little regards to what works.
The character having made several life choices when the game starts is barely an argument as well. Those choices happen pre-bombing and mean nothing when you come out of the vault. Even what you did in Vault 101 has an higher impact considering you actually can go back there eventually and see the results while you can't ever go back to the previous town or affect it in any way.
Yes, your character has a background decided by the game, but it does not actually affect the game at all which is actually worse.
Consider that there's no Tags, no Skills, no Feats or any of the sort. There's nothing to actually include as a consequence of your background.
Worse off, your character is supposed to know how to handle a gun in the 50's suburbia, so he has to be an ex-soldier at least and of an higher education to explain the construction, settlement management and use of any skill.
You didn't had your background chosen for you because they wanted that specific narrative. You had that background because Bethesda literally developed the game into a hole where it was the only background that made sense for that character to have and nothing else mattered.
5977bb No.16079551
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16066566
>Not posting the 2018 version.
What are you, gay?
(Ok it's Russian marines but still).
01beb9 No.16079555
>>16079543
I'll also add that while everyone harps on how stupid the Institute is, how dumb the skills are, how bad the voiced protag is, they end up forgetting some more nuanced, hilarious but also depressing critics you could make.
Fallout 3 did not have factions. It had the good side and the bad side, where the narrative made you play on the good side with a few twists if you wanted to do some evil shit instead. It was a story about being a noble Knight or a scheming dick and that was it.
Then came New Vegas that actually had factions with philosophies, disputable sides, advantages and drawbacks. Something you saw in Fallout 1&2 as well. And everyone liked it, shitting on 3 because of that.
So enter Fallout 4 where several actual factions show up, not because Bethesda suddenly became a good developer but because they wanted to take a clue from Bioware and see if they could pull the same stuff. That's why the Brotherhood is back to being supremacist dicks that hate androids, that's why androids are shown as dangerous so the Railway doesn't seem that good, that's why the Institute is portrayed as morally ambiguous, etc. It's their attempt at faction warfare for the sake of storytelling.
However they do not understand the concept of factions, that they need an ideology and their conflicts are a matter of diverging principles and competing goals, making some terribly shallow attempt at these.
That's why the Brotherhood only show up much later in the game (because they aren't made interesting enough on their own until you understand the android menace they are going to fight), that's why the android are so fucking retarded, that's why the Institute is incredibly stupid (gotta make them do good things but also bad things but it's all in secret!)
Those are narrative issues. Couple that with Skills being removed, likely because they limited what a player can do, weren't that interesting to begin with in this engine and not very intuitive (throw a grenade and it does less damage than shooting a gun just because Explosives isn't very high) showing that they can't make RPG elements in action RPG games, (not that they want to dumb down games), their HUD always being the terrible mess it is because it's designed for consoles and the game needs parity or the console niggers will complain (not because it's not possible or they can't) crafting being added because modular weapons were becoming popular at the time and they wanted to one-up Bioware and the modding of weapons in New Vegas, that building your own base was popular in Rust and similar games and likely a base concept for Fallout 76 as well as a good source of Radiant-style quests, etc
You look at all of that and you see that nothing they ever did was out of malice, stupidity or even a pathetic attempt at innovation.
Every single decision they made to the game was made for a very specific purpose. To copy some popular concept, to re-use an idea that was proven to work, to solve a design flaw in previous games, etc.
Heck the simplest and oldest case of this was going from Morrowind to Oblivion where Stamina switched from affecting your odds of hitting to being a damage modifier. Overall this changes nothing in terms of DPS but it removes the unintuitive misses that many players complained about.
Bethesda isn't incopent because it does X or Y. It's incompetent because it tries and fails to do X or Y and that's an important distintion. They have good ideas (that someone else came up with) but botched executions.
e4b712 No.16079561
01beb9 No.16079569
>>16079561
Fuck, Obsidian. I keep getting the two mixed for whatever reason. Likely NWN2.
4d6932 No.16079575
>>16063103
To see such low faggotry infesting anywhere is disgusting.
d3798e No.16080133
>>16079543
>complain that they are trend-chasers that do what's popular with little regards to what works.
>Biowares eternal cancer
learn to read I wasn't falling for "muh emotions" meme I was outright saying they did it to rip off Bioware
>Those choices happen pre-bombing and mean nothing when you come out of the vault.
They mean nothing to the setting but they are very important to defining your character and roleplaying these are major life decisions and for anyone trying to immerse themselves and create a character they are constant obstacles. Also the entire first half of the game is about finding your child so you are stuck with a constant reminder of those aforementioned 4 pre-selected choices
>>16079555
> That's why the Brotherhood is back to being supremacist dicks that hate androids
That's the common take but it's fucking stupid. The Brotherhood aren't actually different from themselves in Fallout 3 (they recruit outsiders, they fight massive threats to humanity) it's just that the framing is about making them look like dicks and most Reddit tier retards fall for it. the only change in them is how they managed to leverage water for power in the Capital Wasteland which they needed to do because Broken Steel showed it wasn't sustainable with the caravans getting constantly killed.
>
You look at all of that and you see that nothing they ever did was out of malice, stupidity or even a pathetic attempt at innovation.
Every single decision they made to the game was made for a very specific purpose. To copy some popular concept, to re-use an idea that was proven to work, to solve a design flaw in previous games, etc.
I'm well aware of that
>
Heck the simplest and oldest case of this was going from Morrowind to Oblivion where Stamina switched from affecting your odds of hitting to being a damage modifier. Overall this changes nothing in terms of DPS but it removes the unintuitive misses that many players complained about.
Best decision they've ever made
2dc57d No.16080141
>>16062662
While obviously untrue, I appreciate how many manlets responded to this.
d3798e No.16080149
>>16080133
how did I fuck up the formatting this bad
>>16079555
> That's why the Brotherhood is back to being supremacist dicks that hate androids
That's the common take but it's fucking stupid. The Brotherhood aren't actually different from themselves in Fallout 3 (they recruit outsiders, they fight massive threats to humanity) it's just that the framing is about making them look like dicks and most Reddit tier retards fall for it. the only change in them is how they managed to leverage water for power in the Capital Wasteland which they needed to do because Broken Steel showed it wasn't sustainable with the caravans getting constantly killed.
>You look at all of that and you see that nothing they ever did was out of malice, stupidity or even a pathetic attempt at innovation.
>Every single decision they made to the game was made for a very specific purpose. To copy some popular concept, to re-use an idea that was proven to work, to solve a design flaw in previous games, etc.
I'm well aware of that
>Heck the simplest and oldest case of this was going from Morrowind to Oblivion where Stamina switched from affecting your odds of hitting to being a damage modifier. Overall this changes nothing in terms of DPS but it removes the unintuitive misses that many players complained about.
Best decision they've ever made
1a300b No.16080162
>>16079543
They added voice acting because they want to be buttbuddies with Hollywood. All those live action trailers since Fallout 4 didn't pop up out of nowhere.
0ff218 No.16080387
>>16063103
>the absolute state of cuckchan
Holy fuck, it's terminal.
3cabd8 No.16081847
>>16063103
I'm glad I left halfchan.
71dfbb No.16081922
>>16063103
> >mods deleting Fortnite related posts
>it was a Fortnite general
nothing of value was lost
also /vg/ jannies are even more rabid than generic jannies since they tend to claim their own little general to lord over, a discord tranny channel owner in the shadows
9a520d No.16082045
I no longer play video games, I don't enjoy new releases or get excited for upcoming games. The only thing that sustains me is seeing the industry I once love deservedly crumbling before my eyes.
a98aa9 No.16082086
>>16082045
It's the bittersweet JUSTice we deserve
90c2df No.16082100
>>16062590
Dividends are low single digit percent, it wouldn't matter very much.
498e7e No.16082178
>>16067396
It must really suck to be a cuck like you
<yikes I can't wait for the old conservative white people to die then we'll have a literal liberal utopia with diversity and peace and happiness
<yikes the generation after me is really right wing and problematic ugh I can't even
9ef657 No.16083334
>>16067396
yeah, nah, how about you fuck off
I would add more to this pic, but I think everyone here has been on cuck/v/ and knows how bad it is, and I can't stomach it enough to get more content, anyways
53309b No.16083336
>>16062661
Is that Naoto in a pumpkin hat?
2f1f2c No.16083347
Is it cursed? That’s the only explanation I can come up with
9ef657 No.16083367
>>16083347
no, this is exactly how everyone expected a fallout MMO made by bethesda to be
85f2d6 No.16100218
>>16061828
It's free DLC features.
1a300b No.16100228
>>16083367
I'm sure even the biggest pessimists expected NPCs.
85f2d6 No.16100254
>>16100228
Honestly nothing surprises me nowadays. It had a goddamn cardboard disk.
13af56 No.16100348
>>16063103
Holy fuck, I had no idea how bad it had gotten.
eef907 No.16100394
>>16083347
No mod support so nobody competent around to fix the fuckups of Bethesda's diversity hires.
f20f85 No.16100741
>>16100394
This is probably the most overlooked component of this whole debacle. There is no getting around or weaseling out with "modders will fix it" because they can't. This is Bethesda wallowing in its raw, unadulterated incompetence. No pretty keys to dangle in the goyim's faces this time.
8123b3 No.16100854
>>16100741
But dumbfucks actually played the other games on consoles. They were never THIS bad.
6a93d4 No.16100890
With all this talk of Fallout 4 being a pile of shit I feel compelled to point you niggers towards this modification which has almost singlehandedly turned it into a 1000+ hour game for me. Throw in a 3rd party texture optimization pack and the original FO1+2 ambient soundtracks instead of the default garbage and suddenly you're in Flavor Country™.
FO4: Horizon - https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/17374
God bless its creator Zawinul for putting so much time and effort into it over the past 2.5 years. The motherfucker keeps on adding content to it too.
e5149f No.16100892
>>16100741
If I were Bethesda I'd just temp-hire some well known FO4 modders to develop sensible features/bugfixes for FO76 in exchange for Atoms, then once they've served their purpose throw them out with the promise of a spot on the lowest end of TESVI's dev team at some unspecified date in the future, hire another group of dumb suckers then rinse and repeat until the game is sort of playable.
Once it gets to that point I would an exclusive paid modding IDE with which one could develop and submit mods for the game to the Bethstore for review, approved mods would end up as microtransaction faggotry in the regular game while the highest rated ones would earn the developer a spot as an unpaid remote intern with an exclusive ingame T-Shirt of Todd Howard to show everyone online.
During that time I would gradually leak personal details regarding the Pizza/Furry/etc. escapades of the gay nigger tranny dev gentry, fire them one after the other over the ensuing "controversy" while the poojet PR team writes articles about how Bethesda is an open development equal rights workplace with no tolerance for nazi pedophile animal abusers, save 6 billion dollars in wages and then keep coasting indefinitely with mercenary janitor devs doing it for free.
eef907 No.16100905
>>16100890
What a waste. He could spend all that energy modding a worthwhile game, or designing his own, instead all he does is polish a turd, and all you are doing is eating that turd and telling us it's delicious.
125802 No.16101801
>>16100890
That mod sounds really tempting.
How bullet-spongey are the enemies, anon? It sounds like he's made ammo rarer, so I assume they go down infewer hits, yes?
cbea96 No.16101847
>>16101801
>That mod sounds really tempting.
You're still playing toddout 4.
125802 No.16101885
>>16101847
It's got the best power armor system I've played with in an FPS (admittedly because there's not much competition), and if the combat weren't so spongey I'd love to give it another go. The story, choices, and characters will be crap forever of course.
659376 No.16101921
>>16101885
>The story, choices, and characters will be crap forever of course
Then there's no point
125802 No.16101930
>>16101921
>Implying you've never enjoyed a game with a crap story because other elements were good.
e30863 No.16102165
>>16062118
>fallou 76 doxes people
wew
a2c5fb No.16102241
>>16100394
Reminder that Bethesda is owned by Zenimax whose CEO is a litteral jew.
That this company is the one we owe the displeasure of fucking DLCs.
That anyone who ever bought a single dlc is partially responsible for enabling that shit.
291337 No.16102306
>>16070046
Yeah, that bothered me too. These bugs are very old ones that Bethesda haven't fixed for over 15 years.
d3798e No.16102591
>>16101885
I've never used Horizon but if you want non spongey then I'd recommend "War Never Changes" the mod actually makes all the Weapon perks about accuracy instead so any and all weapons you find will always do max damage
f20f85 No.16102618
>>16101885
>>16102591
That one's good if you want to only improve damage output, but I recommend Better Locational Damage as it includes a loot adjuster so you can make ammo, general supplies, and medicine more or less available and an optional delevel scaler. Really good if you don't want to hunt down individual mods. As a bonus, get Hitman's right handed hunting rifle animation replacer because the left handed hunting rifle drives me fucking nuts.
4d03aa No.16102628
>>16101900
>10 mountains, 40 mountains, 200 mountains? How 'bout I'm climbing none of 'em.
c47004 No.16104798
>>16101885
I wanna see the NV remake or even a F1 remake only because of this, to play around with the power armor and weapon mods. Only redeemable thing about toddout 4(That, and the engine is more stable than the last one, but that's like saying that it's sturdier than a wet paper towel)
b34e58 No.16107916
>>16100905
Your loss nigger. The mod is insanely enjoyable.
>>16101801
Not spongey at ALL. One of the main points of the mod was to make combat more realistic. Enemies go down in a couple hits provided you're A) using a weapon capable of defeating whatever armor they are wearing B) not wielding something you can't properly use and C) not aiming like a retard. Aiming for the chest plate of a Super Mutant Warlord instead of his squishy head or unprotected legs would be an example of being shit.
All weapon classes are viable and foster logical playstyles.
1a300b No.16108001
772888 No.16108116
>>16101900
after 20 years Todd returns from rereleasing skyrim and find his morrowwind modded by fans with all f3,f4, and fnv content in the morrowind engine.
90bb03 No.16108121
What happened to Pete Hines? He seems to have disappeared from the surface of the Earth.
30b70a No.16108126
>>16108121
Jesus christ that is one ugly man. You can really tell he is american. His entire presence is shouting "Im inbred".
f769f6 No.16108165
>>16108126
It's mostly they way he smiles.
a817d4 No.16108171
>>16108126
Don't bully Pete, it's not his fault that he's a super mutant
90bb03 No.16108185
>>16108126
He reminds me of that actor.
101045 No.16108194
>>16063103
50 rages have been deposited in your account.
057b2d No.16108386
>>16063103
The absolute state of cuck/vg/
057b2d No.16108399
>>16100741
It's beautiful to see normalfags and bethesdrones finally have the blindfold of "mods will fix it" finally yanked off their faces.
a7c15a No.16108414
>>16108001
Nigger you're retarded, I made no mention of giving Bethesda a dime. Pirate the game and get the mod if you're going to do it at all.
f20f85 No.16108457
>>16108171
Do not insult Super Mutants like that. They can actually think and become something greater than themselves. Now a second generation one is debatable.
809f15 No.16108481
>>16108126
>You can really tell he is american. His entire presence is shouting "Im inbred".
All jews are inbred, that's why they're so easy to tell apart.
226fe9 No.16108490
>>16063103
>fortnite
>getting triggered over posting a swastika
>"fuck you nazi"
>a namefag/tripfag unironically posting without getting banned
What the fuck happened to that place?
1a300b No.16108491
>>16108414
Nice IP hop Todd.
a03506 No.16108499
>>16062529
bs, it would be all over the news
any lawsuits against bethesda will fail
35077a No.16108534
>>16066848
>On top of that he spammed cuck shit and changed /pol/ into /cuck/ because they kept making fun of him with that chick he went he paid to go on holiday with him, who he was acting like was his girlfriend in photos but really was just there for a free holiday and was getting dicked by a Chad.
The moment when the anon at /sp/ posted that Mallory pic was one of the greatest 4chan moments in history. I couldn't contain my smugness.
125802 No.16108835
>>16107916
I tried playing with it and things have been pretty good thus far. Thanks for recommending that.
d1d27c No.16109465
>>16108835
Glad to hear it anon. The Architect stuff is really nifty once you've built up some resources and can start building infrastructure for the settlements. Wait until you see the custom structure the author made for use in Hangman's Alley, shit is impressive.
a2c5fb No.16109736
>>16108414
<when todd is so terrified he'd rather have people pirate his shit so that he could use muh piracy as an excuse in front of shareholders
learn to code.
998e6b No.16111644
>>16109736
>being so autistic that you actually think this is humorous
learn to socialize.
532eee No.16111710
For everyone wondering how anyone could be this retarded
>be shaniqua lawson, most recent developer hire
>boss tells you to fix some recent bug
>ok i guess i wanna do a good job even tho he white, maybe he buy me dinner later
>finish fixing bug
>whoops LMAO i committed all my code to the branch that Pajeet left in the repo which hasn't been changed for 5 months.
>w/e i never figured out merges in git, time to release anyways. i done did mine
532eee No.16111711
>>16111710
i thought that was a different image, oh well
abf2a1 No.16112120
>>16066855
There were plenty of studios trying out the "3D open world first-person/3rd-person RPG" thing when it was nascent, most of them german and most of them clones of MUDs.
Almost all of them got blown out by Morrowind for single player and by Everquest for online stuff.
cfa864 No.16112140
>>16112120
Navorth looks fun, is it worth looking into?
1a300b No.16112195
>>16112120
In M&M's case it really killed itself more than anything.
77babf No.16112275
The real horror isn't F76, but what abomination of a game Bethesda will attempt to push out as Fallout 5.
2b9ffd No.16112299
>>16108490
The new owner is worse than Moot
75c943 No.16112376
>>16066906
You know Penguinz0 on youtube? The dude with the deep as fuck voice? He's like 5'6. There are plenty of manlets with deep as fuck voices.
532eee No.16112481
>>16112376
>76
checked
he's also a massive faggot now who makes videos about anything that will get him attention, like explaining the keto diet.
a2c5fb No.16114667
>>16112376
save for the point that manlets have shorter everything, including neck, which in turn means higher pitched voice.
>manlets
>denying basic physics and relying on outliers
pick both, invariably
9de105 No.16114851
>>16063154
>Cuckchan is basically tumblr-tier now
Back in the day /co/ and some of the little faggy boards like /cgl/ and /soc/ had big populations of the crybaby tumblrfags but now you will see it on major boards like /v/, /b/ and even /pol/. When you see shit like that and you realize it's not a shill it's a person it's pretty damn bad. The "final boss of the internet" now has a big population of crybabies