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I despise this thread and anyone who seriously plays gacha games

Pulled Dantes off a today's event ticket. The NPC version impressed me much more this rerun since I have proper support to run with him this time. Between that and his edginess growing on me I decided to throw some tickets at the banner. If only he had a not shit artist.

>>16044791

This.

>>16045503

I think the art works for him (but not for cleopatra)

Reminder that this shit is NOT video games.

>>16044791

Fpbp

BERSERKER NEKO-ARC SERVANT NEVER EVER NYA~

Why did they make the Avenger class have low star creation and weight but then have the first Avenger be quick based

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

Shouldnt Avengers have more star weight since they are supposed to be selfish and wanna destroy everything

>>16049061

I'd say wait for Double Skadi to make him as amazing as people say he is but you need at least NP3 Dantes to pull the Quick memes off.

Are there any female servants with snouts yet?

>>16049151

>anthro cat trap astolfo

this is a new layer of gay

>>16049395

"I don't like thing, therefore nobody must be allowed to talk about thing"

>>16049477

"I am blind to my absolute dogshit tastes and need to pretend that criticism is a demand for you to be censored." Let's not go there, and leave it at if you must play these things, do not pay them. Ever.

>>16049556

"I'm not demanding for you to be censored I'm just expressing my complete and utter disgust with what you're enjoying via whining in a thread where nobody else shares my viewpoints"

"I also use sage as a downvote"

>gambling for jpegs

>>16049061

The star gen stat is mostly meaningless. What matters more is hit counts. Dantes actually can make an decent amount of stars. His star weight is still an issue though.

>>16049472

>Not pressuring Mark to say that gacha isn't videogames so you can assure other anons that Gacha is, in fact, videogames

What are you doing?

>>16050419

Congrats. Now he'll actually be slightly useful when his strengthening hits.

>>16044791

What if we only jokingly play it?

>>16052848

Until the catalog is 100% full of shitposting and stale memes I don't think it'll matter to him, even if just two threads are gacha at any time.

>>16044757

There's also Da Vinci.

>>16052871

>its shitposting and stale memes to hate gacha

Man you're retarded

>>16052848

"Ironically" playing gacha is still cancer, there is quite literally nothing positive about doing that when you could be playing real games instead

>>16054756

But gacha games are the real games of the modern age dumdum. I mean, what, you want to play Anthem or something?

>>16055764

Just fagging up the place as usual.

>>16057731

I always wondered why is it called Saver when Savior sounds better.

Is it intentional or is it one of Arcsys' infamous mistranslations?

No Ilya route will forever mean Fate is for Faggots.

>>16057731

>fanfiction

Who gives a shit.

The challenge quest was pretty easy. Nobu murdered every wave up to the ruler pair at which point I plugsuited in Ibaraki who fisted them and Dantes to death.. I did not lose a single servant. I had more trouble on the giant ghost fight.

>>16058233

I used Gramps throughout the whole fight with Waver and Merlin.

Seeing him kill Amakusa like nothing is pretty satisfying.

>>16059039

>retard can't count

15 years faggot

Fate is the worst route anyway prove me wrong. Saber gets whored out everywhere else so it evens out.

>>16059191

My bad, my autistic brain still believes its 2018 when it comes to write it down on something

>>16060980

63 here, tho I wasted a bunch of time during the Jeanne round

>>16060980

>>16061437

>>16061044

Took me about 16 turns but granted I used Merlin, Horta, and Waver, so I don't think that counts.

>>16061462

All 7 waves in 16 turns? Fucking hell that's fast but yeah all of the quick clears I've seen were using jeanne alter or some other beefy SSR

>>16060980

It took me so long that I just gave up. This shitty game is so incredibly painful to play that spending more than a few minutes a day is too much to bear.

>>16060980

I went with full stall memes, using double memelin and mash, and only swapped a herc in during the second to last round. Took me 142 fucking turns, with almost all of them being before round 6.

I still don't know why I didn't choose a faster clear method, but at least it's over now.

>>16060980

59 nine here, not that anyone died. Had pretty much max health in the end and could have done it all over again with my Emiya, Tamamo, Merlin 2x2030 set up. Fucking Rulers man.

>>16060980

70+ turns with Herc, Waver, and Merlin.

>>16060980

Took 59 turns with Raikou + Jeanne + Merlin

Redid it took 30 turns with Raikou + Waver + Merlin

Memelin + Nobu + Shakes + Jeanne Alter (support) = 49 Turns

Also with anniversary blonde mystic code

Emiya w/Golden Sumo

Mash w/2030

Support Marlin w/2030

Kintoki Zerker w/Halloween Princess

Chaldea Combat Uniform, total 50 turns, fuck you Amakusa, buff clearing retard

>>16065115

Good tastes son. I've grailed both Raikou and Ibaraki to level 100. Currently working on Jack.

>>16062484

>her…

>>16065640

Congrats she's the best meme farmer, but goodluck with her mats

>>16065640

I just realized Nitocris's hair makes her outline look like a cobra.

>>16065702

>>16065667

>>16065715

Thanks, I noticed her crazy abilities while taking her for a spin to farm more chains for her

Even without them she is doing a lot, absolutely lovely.

>>16072559

SMT gacha system is double cancer, not only is the drop rate for SSR-tier whatever shit, but there's a chance that, even if you do pull the correct unit, there's RNG mixed in that causes the same units to have possible garbage skillsets, basically ruining the unit's usefulness.

>>16072559

KHX.

>>16072559

Fire Emblem Heroes. People praise it too much for "muh 3%" but the value of the 5* units are almost nonexistent and the fact IVs exist can potentially ruin the character you got. Also you need 11 copies a character if you want to get the best out of them.

There's also the fact most units aren't unique at all due to you feeding other units at them for skills, which means people only roll for banners not for the characters but for their skills.

Granblue does have awful grinding for sure.

I know Brave Exvius is completely awful in almost all fronts.

>>16072807

>The story is neat and it would make for a nice entry in the main series

[citation needed]

>>16072869

It's essentially FF8 mixed in with FF7. You're part of a union(garden) and then war breaks out among the gardens with some shadowy fucker manipulating things from behind the scene. You fucking die and then the world gets reset in a dream world, but your memories of the shit that went down are returning to you in the form of nightmares. Some chick that likes you ((Marluxia's sister)) gets killed and then that's a huge mystery as to who the killer is, because she was supposed to be one of the handpicked individuals to survive the war. This means that one of the few to survive is actually the murderer and it's currently unknown who it is, but many think it's Ven. The same Ven from bbs The story is pretty neat. It really is held back by being stuck on mobile and how terrible the devs are at presenting that story. The girl you're supposed to feel sorry for, is introduced and removed from the story during the same chapter. If competent devs were in charge of a remake, it could be a great stand-alone game. Our devs are better at presenting the story btw. The story itself is neat, but the presentation along with a lot of the game in general is just really bad.

>>16073533

>Only problem with that is how much preference Chinese/Japanese swordsmen get. There's way too many of them.

While this complaint makes sense, at the end of the day it's still an Eastern production, so this shouldn't really be unexpected or anything.

That being said, I would alter it from "swordsmen" to "legends" in general. The most literally who character is still probably osakabehime, although the tongue cutting sparrow is a pretty close second there.

>>16074371

I didn't realize it at first, but that 5 star assassin truly is a literal who. I don't even think (s)he has a wikipedia page in English. Even then, when you google the name, the FGO appearance shows up first.

>>16074371

>>16074381

>osakabehime

It's a yokai. I would like more Western figures, but I'm not really expecting them to beat out Eastern figures. If famous characters from literature can show up, does that mean Poe, Mary Shelly, Bram Stroker, Mark Twain, and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle could show up as heroic spirits? If Sherlock Holmes can show up, does that mean that Iron Man and comic characters could show up as well considering how popular they are? I wonder if we'll ever get Commodore Perry?

>>16074535

>Bram Stroker

Finally, an enemy both Lancer and Berserker Vlad can join forces to destroy!

>>16074535

Under normal rules(i.e. no mooncell or counter guardian shenanigans) only things no more recent than around WWI can be servants. Everything else is too new. There isn't really any rules if we are bringing the mooncell into the equation though.

>>16074657

>only things no more recent than around WWI can be servants.

Is this the new "nothing after the 1900s"? The only thing stopping more recent figures from being servants is the higher likelihood of being sued for it.

>>16074745

>The only thing stopping more recent figures from being servants is the higher likelihood of being sued for it.

Only when it applies to copyrighted characters. Real people such as Neil Armstrong are fair game and have been used before in the mooncell.

>>16072559

On gacha alone it's FGO.

On the rest it's FF Brave Exvius.

>>16074657

>No more recent than around WWI

This seems like an arbitrary and made-up rule. How do you explain servants like Edison who is the collaboration of every US President - past, present, and future?

The most recent Servants, barring EMIYAs, are Mata Hari and Li Shuwen iirc. The former is a litarally who-tier slut who never managed a thing and the latter is utterly broken given that he can just walk around completely invisible.

>>16076587

It's Häyhä, not hayna.

>>16076987

Neil is far later than both >>16076454

>>16077024

He wasn't mentioned by name afaik and he has no stats. Also, Moon Cell.

>>16077053

In Fate/Extra Shinji mentions a servant Armstrong.

>>16077134

Because Li Shuwen showed up in FGO, too. There's a whole bunch of Servants who're Moon Cell only; Charles and the Sakuras for example, whose saint graphs aren't in the Throne of Heroes per se.

>>16077096

That's been treated as a joke, see Last Encore where he shows up as a corpse.

>>16077207

>Because Li Shuwen showed up in FGO, too.

If you're using FGO as a thermometer the archives between the Mooncell and Throne are shared, let me state this again, they are shared anything in the Mooncell can be summoned by the Throne and vice versa. This is what is made canon in the SE.RA.PH. event and makes Sakuras in the Throne canon.

>Sakuras for example, whose saint graphs aren't in the Throne of Heroes per se.

They are now. They canonically are now. The Throne accesses Mooncell archives and the Mooncell can now access Throne archives. This became canon in SE.RA.PH.

Also Charles is the one that can be summoned as a servant, Charlemagne (Saber) is the one that can't be summoned outside of the mooncell, until the ending says he can now because he registered as a unique existence. So your arguments even weaker.

>>16077671

Stop posting this crap. It wasn't any better on /animu/.

>>16077722

>/animus/

Isn't it that tripfag board?

>>16077725

/animu/ is not the same as /animus/, and yes /animus/ is pure tripfag circlejerking.

>>16077729

I'm confused that there's a board with a similar name.

>>16077732

cuckchan pls go

>>16078052

What the fuck does that have to do with cuckchan?

>gachaniggers

Every last one of you deserves AIDS

New servant with Raita as the artist. She's got big tiddies but Raikou is still better

>>16083043

>not posting a picture or the video

Lazy shit

>>16082926

Any servant released since your last birthday should have lines for you. It does not matter when you acquire them.

>>16084041

Can’t wait to roll for her and not get her and then go into these threads and see greentexts about how people using their ‘last ticket’ or ‘last SQ’ somehow works and they get her.

>>16084118

Nah, man, you gotta pull four 3* servants in FP gacha 10-pull which indicates you're in the critical flaw of the randomization engine that has been made unnecessarily complex for no reason other than to expose the company to legal action and possible bankruptcy! That's the secret.

>>16084136

>possible bankruptcy!

>game regularly hits #1 on transactions for mobage

My sides

>>16084268

If a guaranteed method of pulling the rarest servants with free quartz really existed, the revenue stream would dry up in days.

>>16084304

>Kancolle's the better gacha game, though.

>The one gacha game with PERMADEATH

>>16084344

You're probably just responding to bait anyway, but I'm pretty sure only retards actually lose their boats. From what I recall playing it back when it came out you more or less have to send your squads on suicide missions past any reasonable point to sink them.

>>16084483

It doesn't matter now as any audience it has or had has moved on to Azur Lane and the eternal San Diego rate-up.

>>16084483

>>16084344 (czech'd)

Yeah, if a ship is above red health at the start of a battle, she'll always be capped at 1 HP and won't be targeted after that. You'll only lose a ship if you choose to go into night battle or continue a sortie if a ship has a red health bar.

>>16084558

devastation*

>>16084304

Kancolle has shit gameplay even by gacha standards but you would have to be retarded to actually have one of your girls die. The gameplay is so bad that even though my waifu is a boat, I don't play anymore.

>>16085317

That webm is beyond fucking autistic but I still like it

>>16085454

It's also an mp4 so I'm double retarded.

>>16085258

I want to fuck Gudako.

>>16085577

Retards aren't for fucking.

>>16085317

Who said I abandoned her? I have all her voice clips saved and sleep with a daki of her every night. I even log in to poke her sometimes. I just don't suffer through the gameplay anymore. That mp4 is cute.

>>16082420

I'm getting Summer Shishou's and Altera's chocos first because of Mamiko Noto's birthday. Outside of that, I'm gunning to get White Umu's, Summer Martha's, Gorgon's and Ibaraki's chocos first. I'm gonna farm like hell for every new girl's chocos anyway because that's the only way to do valentine's unless you're a massive faglord that doesn't appreciate his servants

I'm also giving chocos to all my bros and husbandos as Gudako for the full valentine's experience, go hard or go fucking home

>>16085647

Gudako is perfectly fuckable as long as it's not Riyo.

>>16077134

That pretty much invalidates the neat concept that when summoning modern heroic spirits you have to essentially summon the item which has become a Noble Phantasm and maybe have a wraith attached to it or a humanoid manifestation of itself.

Nasu is a hack writer and your fucking faggot waifus are trash.

Go jerk off to better gachashit if you niggers are that desperate.

Neck yourselves. Do your social system a favor.

Does the valentine chocolates from last year work this year? do you need to get chocolates from the same servants again?

>>16085258

>the virgin 480p GIF

>vs. my CHAD 1080p WebM w/ audio

GACHA?!

>>16087167

You probably know this, but just to clarify that was never an actual concept. Nasu was making a statement that due to modern weaponry being so easy to use and master it's much harder for modern servants to be a thing, as it's much harder for modern people to become heroes. Thus he mused that perhaps the ez kill weapons themselves might become something like heroic spirits, but we've never actually seen such a thing in practice.

>>16088166

>The weapons themselves become heroic spirits

That's a terrible idea. It'd essentially be doing what Girls Frontline is already doing right now. He'd be better off making the original manufacturer a heroic spirit. There's no reason why Mr. Remington himself shouldn't be a heroic spirit of some renown. Nasu will probably make him weak as shit in favor of some literally who Japanese poet or Chinese bum tickler, though.

>>16089274

I know right? The Japanese author making a game for a majority Japanese audience has more information about famous people in Japan. It's retarded.

>>16089519

Especially the woman who pretty much made the first novel and her writing style is used in many novels even nowadays..

>>16089597

Notice none of the titles you mention are focused on famous individuals from various places, entire civilizations, Sonic OC in famous periods, but never individuals.

>>16089628

No wait, Civilization has decided to focus on including women leaders while ignoring better men, and Total War has inserted entirely fictional female Roman generals into the game. So really, on par with FGO, only FGO doesn't pretend it's on the right side of history or whatever.

>>16089635

But are they cute tho

>>16089644 (checked)

FGO focuses on its primary audience, which is straight Japanese men who want to see cute girls, sexy women, and some cool guys to be GAR about. Its secondary audience is Japanese women (and gay Japanese men) who want to see cute boys and sexy men. The homos and foreigners are just gravy.

>>16089693

Poor Ivan was left behind.

>>16089693

>double punishes for swimsuit versions

Silly

>includes Sonic OC characters

Fucking retarded. No one would care differently if EMIYA was from the US, he sticks out anyway. Him being Japanese barely relates to the issue and it's disingenious to include them.

>>16089712

That image in particular was just taken from some unrelated website. I didn't make it. Regardless, even without the OC characters, Japan alone has 6 more than the second most populated region - that one being England. If it was updated, you'd see even more in Japan.

>>16089929

>In any case, the point is that the game will get boring with too many Nips and boring swordsmen.

For you, their non-target audience. I don't know why you bitch about literal who Japs and Chinks when you're asking for the Jap devs to do, from their perspective, literal who Europeans. If anything, the places "most deserving" of servants are South America, Austrailia, and Africa, in that order. But I'm assuming you're not bitching because you want more niggers/abbos in the game.

>>16089597

>>16089693

>>16089929

You sound like those SJWs that bitch about Japanese games not meeting Western standards, as if you're important to the Jap devs. Yes it has more of a Japanese focus, what did you expect from a company like Type-Moon?

>>16090078

>saggy breats: the team

Never looking at these chicks the same after that episode.

>>16089693

Why is Billy on the East side of the U.S.? I know he was born in New York but he's the stereotypical Wild Western outlaw.

>>16090336

That map only lists places of birth, hence why Marie Antoinette is listed within Austria, Tesla in Siberia, etc. The one thing I'm curious about is why Illya is in Japan.

>>16090314

This is some high class bait btw. You'd have to pretend to have never heard of anime or any sort of pop culture to come from Japan to actually make a statement like this. And I'm sure this anon isn't actually that retarded. Here's your (you) for the attempt.

>>16090349

Oh. I didn't notice. As for Illya, that's primsa illya illya. I don't know if her backstory changes her birth location in that continuity.

>>16090357

She was born in Germany in Prisma too.

>>16090421

That depends on where they sealed Kuro. Prisma Illya Illya was born when they sealed the original away.

>>16090357

She's Japanese via Kiritsugu and as another anon said it depends on where Kuro was sealed. At the very least, one can guess she was born in Germany but by virtue of her father and her being raised in Japan that makes her Japanese.

>Thus he mused that perhaps the ez kill weapons themselves might become something like heroic spirits

So boat girls and gun girls fit the criteria. Terrible idea as boats would all be Riders and guns Archers. Abyssals could be Avengers or even Foreigners if you want to take it into that territory. I'd rather have a collab with Madoka Magica since Nasu and Gen are friends plus Gen writing Lostbelt 3

>>16090569

Though I kinda feel like a way to make it a bit more interesting is have concepts be fused to the spirit of the inventor that invented the weapon/thing. Like say Karl Benz as a heroic spirit because since the car after a while is so well known and could qualify as a heroic spirit just by extension of that.

I'd love Richard Gatling as a Heroic Spirit if going by that Qualification

>>16090877

I got lolidusa.

the best farming nodes dont come till 2/08 so save your nodes and apples till then

>>16090877

I just wanted the Kiritsugu CE but I got NTR knight instead.

>>16091488

I got her using the tickets they gave today, but it's a pain because she's not very good, and I don't even play the game outside of a token once a month "play" because the game is complete trash gameplay wise

>you will never be drugged and raped by Tamamo Lancer

>why live

>>16093455

Nice screenshots nerd

>>16095620

Cocksleeves aren't for marrying.

>>16095625

Please don't use bad words in this thread, it's illegal.

>>16095637

You're completely correct, the proper term is semen receptacle.

>>16095645

>He's loyal

To dicks.

>and caring

Caring about big dicks.

>>16090439

Kuro is the fake. Prisma Illya is what she was meant to be without the 400 generations of Einzbern memories or whatever they programmed into her.

>>16090439

Memory alteration doesn't give you a new place of origin. If you're born in America then get a concussion and lose all your memories on a trip to Europe, does that retroactively make you born in Europe, or a European citizen? Or are you still an American, even if you can't remember being from America?

>>16095645

Astolfo will cheat on you with as many men and women as he possibly can, just to win a bet. He's a massive slut and does not value monogamy whatsoever.

Is Apocrypha worth watching? I really only wanna because of Astolfo. But at the same time from what I've seen, the audio for sound effects is all fucked. Like Berserk levels of CLANG.

>>16095713

Not really.

>>16095713

Audio levels are shit, writing overall is shit, pacing is shit. I'd say characterization is "good" but since the writer is a hack he can't even handle the interesting characters he was given. He kills so many servants before they get a proper chance of being anything. Sieg is everything secondaries accuse Shirou of being, a retard who runs around getting himself into danger only to get his ass saved by some plot device he didn't earn. Some of the animation effects are "okay" but overall the anime is less than mediocre. Astolfo is unironically the best part of the show but that's because everyone else is either a terrible character or is a good character who gets killed way too early.

>>16095729

Well that's a shame. Not unsurprising though.

>>16095713

It's terrible. It's better than Last Encore, but then again, what isn't? Astolfo gets far too much screentime and feels like he should have been a minor side character, instead of the main servant. The main character is an absurd mary sue, basically Nero levels of retarded bullshit, except unlike Nero, he doesn't even have a trace of a personality. He's literally a cardboard cutout. His near complete lack of a personality has an attempted justification in-plot, but it falls flat, because if you're going to make someone the main character of something you shouldn't just go "Oh, he has no personality, but it's a plot point so that makes it okay". It's a retarded, low effort cop out that doesn't even work. It's not even like they couldn't write interesting characters, they were capable of doing so, which is probably the only thing the anime has going for it. They just had no idea where to go with the ones they did have. Some characters were very interesting or likeable, but ultimately pointless, and got far too little screentime in favor of the bland mary sue. The plot is full of nonsense and it feels like they scrapped everything and re-wrote it halfway through, or maybe just had no idea where they were going from the start. I'm assuming you've played Grand Order enough to realize Amakusa exists which will spoil what is probably the best and most interesting twist the anime has.

>>16095713

It's a shounen fightan' anime with a typical Fate ending in which the protagonist endures great suffering and loss but comes out with some semblance of a victory. The core story handles Sieg coming to terms with his nature as an artificial creature with a finite, meaningless life but most of the interesting nuance is absent from the anime.

>>16095713

Everyone else already highlighted the issues apoc had. I personally had some fun watching it, but fuck if I'd watch it again. I think Sieg as a concept is pretty alright, but he would have worked so much better as a side character and with far less plot armor saving his homunculus ass every fight. The sound design is FUCKING AWFUL and let no one say otherwise. The servants are so-so, the anime did a very poor job at making me care about every team except Sisigo/Mordred and Amakusa/Semiramis and a few servants like Achilles and Karna. I'm still fucking assmad that Siegfried just can't have an entry in this franchise where he's a legitimate fighter, and they especially did my boy dirty in Apoc.

Apoc would have been so much more enjoyable if Sisigo and Mordred had just been the main characters to be honest, they were by far the most enjoyable thing to ever come out of Apoc.

>>16095829

>Amakusa/Semiramis

>Semiramis

Who motivation only being lust for Amakusa dick is garbage. Medea is similar, but her and Snake Fist had far better execution as far as how interesting their relationship was.

>>16095729

Or isnt given enough screen time like Shakespeare or Spartacus.

>>16095973

It was already pretty popular before FGO. Not that it didn't make it even more mainstream but still, far from obscure.

>>16095973

>I blame gacha addicted otaku for this franchise having any relevance….

The gacha would never have existed in the first place were the franchise not popular. Fate/Zero is pointed to as the start of the decline of Fate, as, even though it's a good story, it started the trend of the Fate setting being let out like a used whore to writers like Higashide.

>>16096015

>>16096062

What is the appeal of Fate? I refuse to check it out for the sole basis that it looks like design-by-committee bullshit made to appeal to as many weebs as possible

>>16096062 (You)

>What is the appeal of Fate? I refuse to check it out for the sole basis that it looks like design-by-committee bullshit made to appeal to as many weebs as possible

Are you asking about the franchise as a whole or the original Fate/Stay Night that started all of it?

>>16096073

Franchise as a whole.

Is it actually good? Is there decent story telling beneath what looks like just "lmao memes and anime titties xD"

>>16096066

>What is the appeal of Fate?

This really looks like bait, but I'll bite. There's generally two ends to the broad Fate series. The protagonists and their arcs, and the other end is (likely) what you refer to as "design-by-committee bullshit".

On the former end, Nasu has a preference for creating characters who are in someway "disordered" within society. In cases like Ryougi/Tohno, they have instincts which put them at odds with the normal human world. Characters like Kiritsugu and Shirou on the other hand function within society but in some regard view it in a fundamentally incorrect way. The story as it focuses on these characters generally looks at how they struggle to exist in a world far greater than they are, a reality that often comes with considerable loss and an ending that is neither happy or sad but rather an ending that allows the character to capture what is important to them. Antagonists often follow a similar route, choosing to live against society rather than to find compromise with it.

Servants, on the other hand, are quite often handled by a "rule of cool" origin. Nasu likes for things to be fun and interesting and isn't as concerned with making things grounded if it somehow inhibits that. A joke within the community is that "archers don't use bows", owing to the fact that a considerable number of "Archer" class servants use different weapons entirely, including even swords. Character writing is equal parts deeply serious, as it reflects on the myths and histories of the characters, and lighthearted, as it recognizes the fact that the cast includes everyone from a nameless samurai to a celtic queen in a bikini.

First and foremost I'd acknowledge it as a series that aims to be fun and is aware of that fact. If you're interested in profound depth and deep moral stories then you would be better off picking up a book. But it tries, and succeeds, to be an overwhelmingly fun franchise.

>>16096235

Essentially what this guy says.

Fate is really character-centric, one of the reasons why it meshes with the gacha system at all.

Plus it's battle royale. Everyone loves battle royale. Even /v/ loved the concept of battle royale before games like PUBG and its clones sold it to the mouthbreathers. You can't deny this.

>>16096235

Well, if it aims to be fun, I can accept that. Fun things are fun, so I guess I'll check out the anime or something.

>>16096066

it's just mobileshit. a few anons will tell you it's really good but I'm here to tell you, anyone sane with an IQ above double-digits would play an actual game.

>>16096179

>Is there decent story telling beneath what looks like just "lmao memes and anime titties xD"

There's definitely decent story telling, it's just mixed in with garbage since it became a franchise with multiple writers. Nasu's style is distinct and it's very obvious when he's writing, (This isn't to say Nasu can't fuck up, Last Encore proves that) but when Nasu starts doing a good job it's very entertaining because of his world-building and character motivations, his strongest point and the reason the franchise exists in the first place. The reason Fate was able to explode into the franchise that it is today was because of this robust template that allows you to churn historical figures into waifus, what I am assuming is you complaint about "design by committee". The way it was originally done was interesting from a Tabletop kind of way (in the original Visual Novel Heracles is even described as being "unaffected by attacks below a certain "rank" and immune once he was) with even an in game character sheet popping up for servants. The servant template is incredibly easy to take as another anon said, "rule of cool" approach to history, as all you need is

>someone famous

>what they would wish for if they had the chance to have anything

>famous feats/weapons to translate into skills and an ultimate weapon

This last one is important, under Nasu rules, even concepts can become powerful weapons. Yes obviously Excalibur is a famous powerful sword, but this allows Nasu to allow character traits to become weaponized, for instance, the fact that Heracles was famous for bravely facing challenges in life has high resistance to "mental attacks".

After that is of course his character motivations, which anon points out partially here >>16096235 but that's a bit too flowery for what typically happens in Fate, and it's mostly only true of Fate/Stay Night (Nasu's best work and the original). Nasu typically does with historical figures is instead give them a far more "humane vibe" and a "continuation" to their stories. For instance, you may know of the tale of Jason and the Argonauts, which involves a certain witch named Medea. Medea was mind controlled by falling in love with Jason via Aphrodite, and tricked into killing her brother and scattering his remains to delay the king, along with helping him get the fleece in general. Later on he would then dump her and leave her alone, spiteful and angry for giving her the sensation of love and then abandoning her when she was no longer useful. Nasu then says, how did Medea feel about this after the fact? How does she feel about Jason? Is it really only purely hate now or does she just wish Jason would return affection to her still to this day? Is all Medea want is to be loved properly if she were revived? You then mix this character with their motivations by throwing them into a huge conflict with other historical figures with similar issues and give them the ability to fight using the above template described.

I would also say Nasu simultaneously explores interesting themes while maintaining "rule of cool" operations at all times. You don't just get sophistry, you get to watch King Arthur fight Heracles and see how those two would face off.

This is what I would describe as the main appeal of Fate, don't play Grand Order though, it's a terrible fucking game gameplaywise and the only redeeming factor is the story locked inside it.

>>16096319

If you're going to bother with Fate at all, read the original Visual Novel, Fate/Stay Night. No anime yet has done justice for Shirou's character motivations. Shirou is possibly the most interesting character I've ever seen to come out of Japanese media you just can't experience it without reading his thoughts.

>>16096334

>it's just mobileshit. a few anons will tell you it's really good but I'm here to tell you, anyone sane with an IQ above double-digits would play an actual game.

>one game is the entire franchise

No one in the FGO thread ever unironically recommends playing the mobage. The mobage is garbage and can be observed from a distance to the same effect. The majority of these thread before cuckchan invasion at least was here only for the story and lore and that's it.

>>16095729

You will hear pretty much everywhere that Karna deserved better.

Love your Karnas like Aoi Yuuki does, anons, because Higashide fucked him over. On that, didn't he write Septem?

>>16096319

At the very least Zero and Lostbelt 3 were written by Urobuchi which at this point I'd rather have only him and Nasu doing the story, lest we get another Nero chapter.

Week 1 player: I play the game only for the hentai doujins.

The end.

>>16096377

>You will hear pretty much everywhere that Karna deserved better.

That's the problem though, Higashide probably felt he could just throw Karna into the mix because he should have already been fleshed out by CCC. Karna deserves more definitely but since his character arc concluded in a different work, there was little to do with him. The only thing left for Karna is another Arjuna face off and sadly we got that and it was offscreen and garbage in America.

>On that, didn't he write Septem?

No individual writers are credited for the singularities, events will, such as Prisma Illya and Accel Order, but fans can only infer. The one that most people are certain Higashide wrote was Argatha because of Hydra-wank and Astolfo being important again.

>At the very least Zero and Lostbelt 3 were written by Urobuchi which at this point I'd rather have only him and Nasu doing the story, lest we get another Nero chapter.

Reminder that Nasu originally made Nero and that Nero is unironically a good character when she's getting treated as the monster she deserves to be treated as. The arrival of Whore of Babylon Nero can not come soon enough. Septem suffered because it focused on Nero as a waifu rather than a character with her own narrative.

Karna's defeat in Apocrypha was one of the most annoying points of the show for me. It was absolute garbage before and after but that one fight holy shit

>>16096377

>lest we get another Nero chapter

Agartha is worse.

>>16096463

There is no possible way that is true. Agartha may be shit but Septem didn't even have writing really.

>>16096594

A lack of writing is better than

>canon NTR

>Astolfo running around in a High School outfit

>Shota pandering

>Best boy turning out to be a bad guy

>poorly drawn brown Caster

>Reverse rape cartels

>Heracles needing a buff

>>16096605

There was a JP poll about which chapters people liked and there was only 1 vote for Agartha with people joking that only the writer voted for it which should give you an idea.

>Astolfo running around in a High School outfit

You say that like its a bad thing

>>16096633

Only when the outfit doesn't look like a real one and completely washes out Astolfo's pallet because the artist is a retard.

>>16095673

>without the 400 generations of Einzbern memories or whatever they programmed into her

That's some retarded bullshit you believe, m8.

>>16095713

No. There's like a handful of good parts, but overall it's not very good at all.

So much wasted potential thrown at a B-writer like Higashide.

>>16095761

>but most of the interesting nuance is absent from the anime.

The novels don't do it any better either, really. For such a huge "artificial humans"-vibe, they really did nothing at all with it.

>>16095973

>porn

The works with porn in them from TM are unironically the best. This is pretty much an indisputable fact.

>>16096066

>design-by-committee bullshit

For the later entries maybe, but definitely not for the earlier works. It just made by massive autists. Nasu loves his ancient philosophy and broken characters, Takeuchi loves his moe and keeps Nasu focused and Urobuchi is a huge martial arts nerd. So it all blends together into something chuuni as fuck which might seem like it's been made by corporate committees or some shit.

>>16096319

What he said is right, but the thing is, all the anime are shit.

>>16096671

>The novels don't do it any better either, really. For such a huge "artificial humans"-vibe, they really did nothing at all with it.

>have fucking Frankenstein in your cast for an "artificial human" story

>throw her away in the first big conflict

>Mordred not mentioning or being bothered about being a homuculus either

All this set up Nasu gave Higashide and I'm still fucking mad.

>What he said is right, but the thing is, all the anime are shit.

I'd say Fate/Zero is a good anime and that ufotable UBW and HF are good after reading the VN.

>>16096694

>I'd say Fate/Zero is a good anime and that ufotable UBW and HF are good after reading the VN.

Fate/Zero is like 8/10, but it doesn't quite capture the sheer manic joy Urobuchi had for writing that shit. It's still good, but I'd recommend reading it first.

Ufotable in general is "read the original first and then enjoy the eye-candy" when it comes to Fate. For KnK they're arguable the superior alternative. Okay, I might have been a little bit hyperbolic. Carnival Phantasm and Cooking at Emiya's are good.

>>16096605

>poorly drawn brown Caster

Please explain, I know nothing about art and I'm interested in seeing criticisms that aren't just reddit bitching about tits bigger than a b-cup

>>16096694

>Mordred not mentioning or being bothered about being a homunculus either

There was that bit where she killed Astolfo's master and outright told the bitch to 'shut the fuck up' after she was giving Sieg shit over how he was 'just a tool', but nothing outside of it. Fuck, there was even a scene of Mordred putting down a rebellion in a flashback where the leader's main complaint was that 'the King doesn't understand humans. It's easy to assume Mordred didn't care because of her "King Arthur is perfect and can do no wrong" mentality at the moment, but there could've at least been a line mentioning Mordred doesn't see a problem with the King not being human because she isn't human either.

>>16096722

Not him but I despise how Raita drew Scherezade because she looks WAY too black to the point she doesn't look like a person.

Then again I despise her for what she did to Drake.

>>16096782

Oh I forgot one last note, her legs aren't properly attached to her body. The artist doesn't know how that works evidently given the "crease" he tried to add but the hips are structured incorrectly (note: not too big, that isn't the issue, the basic shape is wrong.) and her thigh are retardedly long, like freakishly. Normal human thighs are about even with how long the torso is, her thighs basically reach from the top of her head to her hips, this is most evident when you look at her back leg.

>>16096747

Raita didn't draw Scherezade. Namaniku ATK did.

>>16097333

Don't forget what he becomes. Are you sure you're comfortable handing over your daughter to a collector?

He'd probably be a giant whale in phone games too

>>16097361

Would he though? Gilgamesh doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would bother on normal gambling let alone gacha shit. His vault already contains everything why would he gamble?

>>16097369

How can you say you own everything if you don't have a copy of every waifu?

>>16097372

He does have a copy of every waifu. Enkidu can shapeshift into any waifu.

>>16097372

I think by design his vault should have at least one phone with FGO installed and every servant unlocked within it.

>>16097388

This implies that Gilgamesh stores abstract information in his vault. He would have a phone but does Gilgamesh put any worth into data itself? He doesn't wax philosophical as his opinion is the only one that matters to him, so he doesn't care about that sort of stuff, so why should he care about an abstract collection of 1s and 0s? Would Gilgamesh be a Linuxfag? On a different note, I don't know how big Gilgamesh was on slavery in Fate. His entire spiel in F/SN about the 10 labourers was that each one was important and he couldn't kill any of them. In addition Babylon makes it seems like he treated his subjects as subjects definitely, but not as inhumane workforce, just people that were by default something to be directed by him.

>>16097388

But it would have to have a version of FGO that's one rank higher. So is it a console game? But if it's a console game is it still the same gacha? If it's not then does he really have a better version of FGO or something else entirely?

Polite sage because this has just become a three tiered shitpost

>>16097400

I think the one rank higher part is what gives him every servant in the game, all of them maxed out.

This seems like a decent thread to ask this. The only Fate thing I know about is Fate/Stay Night, I have the VN on my computer but haven't read it yet. The series seems to be bloated to fuck, so to anyone who is familiar with it: how are the various Fate additions connected and which are worth bothering with?

If it's relevant, I hate gacha in all forms and smartphone games in general. Gachi is fine though.

wew that was fast. thanks for the direction anons.

I'll read the VN then go to hollow ataraxia.

>>16097472

Good. Remember the importance of going in blind, though. I couldn't imagine how ruined Fate/Stay Night would be if I knew of the important plot points beforehand.

>>16097482

Like *gasp* how Saber is King Arthur?!

But seriously don't watch the anime for Stay Night before reading the visual novel.

>>16097459

These charts remind me of how nervous I need to be about Requiem. I don't understand the point of having something that sounds like it should just be in Grand Order considering the already huge amount of servants, and instead turning it into a light novel plot.

>>16097498

No, the first novel comes out at the end of the year. It's just the plot sounds really, really stupid. Judging a book by its cover and all though.

>>16097498

>I've been ignoring the fuck out of that, did it start airing yet?

It's a Light Novel, so no, it probably won't start airing until an anime is greenlit for it.

>>16097484

No worries, I assume most people here are the kind to read a book before watching its movie adaptation.

>>16097498

My usual strategy is to make safety saves at decisions and go back to them after finishing whatever route I'm on. Then once I've done the alt routes I'll use the walkthrough for true ending. If there is any reason I should not do this in this instance it would be nice to know.

>>16097515

>If there is any reason I should not do this in this instance it would be nice to know.

No, that's a good method. I made a save for every choice and still have them marked for each bad end. Sometimes go and re-read them, since some of them are really interesting.

>>16097515

Forewarning that some of the bad ends can get fucklong, so don't think you're safe just because you don't immediately get killed

>>16097447

>how are the various Fate additions connected

Strictly speaking about continuity, Fate/Zero is Stay Night's prequel which explored the 4th HGW from every master's perspective. It heavily spoils a lot of shit from Stay Night, particularly for the Heaven's Feel route, so you should approach it only once you have finished Stay Night or just don't give a fuck. I haven't read the novels, but the anime was pretty good.

Also, F/SN is continued by Hollow Ataraxia, which has some pretty good shit. Definitely worth a read if you enjoyed Stay Night and want to see some SN servants developed even further and how they would react to everyday life situations. You also get to know best boy Angry Man Jew who did nothing wrong.

Outside of that, the rest of the entries are in completely different universes. Fate/Extra, for example, takes place in an alternate world where magic died out and mages decided that hacking shit was cool, so they switched vocations to tech wizards. The games take place in the Moon Cell, an unknown entity in outer space, that is said to grant the power to grant any wish. It is unironically the only entry that had a legitimate HGW where shit didn't go off the fucking rails halfway through, and it has a ton of pretty cool lore. The servants are also really damn good, and it has a really great mechanic where you must research your enemy's servants before you fight them for real to get a shot at their identities, giving you a major boost during the final showdown. Just don't take a look at GO before playing Extra because it spoils their identities.

>and which are worth bothering with?

Extra is pretty alright if you wanna play a straight HGW with your chosen waifu or GARcher, just keep in mind the RPS gameplay gets boring. CCC translation never fucking ever, Extella is supposedly pretty shit and Extella Link is supposedly a bit less shit, I haven't played those so feel free to correct me if needed.

You can read everyone's opinions about Apocrypha in the earlier posts. It's okay, but not worth watching if you're not a hardcore fan. Just watch any scene with Sisigo and Mordred and you're golden.

Grand Order is a very mixed bag. It has a lot of pretty cool lore and some great new characters (like Dantés or King Hassan), as well as some new versions of old servants that paint them in a new light (like Gorgon). The story is SHIT in the first few chapters. Once it reaches the Camelot singularity, however, it gets really damn good. If you're interested, you could just read a summary from the first few singularities and then watch the story from Camelot onwards. Do not get into the actual gachashit unless you really know what you're getting yourself into. JUST DON'T.

>>16097526

Extella is shit gameplaywise but worth suffering through just for Altera

>>16096341

>The majority of these thread before cuckchan invasion at least was here only for the story and lore and that's it.

so not video games? I wonder why Mark still allows this threads.

>>16098092

Shit. You're right. I'm retarded and forgot what year it was.

Good to know it's as bad as it seems then

>>16097874

>visual novels aren't video games

>2 RPGs on the PSP aren't video games

>4 fighting games

>2 Musou games

>Mark has already stated that gacha is videogames too

You don't really know what you're talking about do you?

>>16099035

From the looks of it, the plot centers around a 14 year old girl who has the job of "servant killer", because this takes place in Akihabara after a grail war where everyone in the world now has a grail and a servant or something. Her job is then killing the servants without a master. Of course, she has no servant herself until the book happens so how she was at all proficient at this job is a mystery.

Apparently there's also shit like servant battles in arenas becoming a televised sport or some shit, with announcers including osakabehime and Teach.

The book's main plot is about stopping a servant turning other servants/masters into zombies.

This is just the bits and pieces I can find, but I can't imagine this turning out good. It almost sounds like a parody/comedy.

>>16100739

Apparently her Grandma won the "Last Holy Grail War" with her super special Jesus Nail techniques. MC probably has some bullshit power even though her grandma is still alive.

>>16099035

>>16100739

>>16100777

As far as I know the MC has "evil spirits" possessing her, which of course allows her to kill servants. The tournament is exactly as stupid as it sounds, Blackbeard and Circe are commentators and the whole LN is full of retarded fan service.

The zombies are the work of a nigger voodoo goddess and she kills off the interesting servants.

Oh, and apparently the MC is going to Fuyuki, so I'm expecting even more fan service in the next volumes.

There's more in the Beast's Lair thread if you can tolerate the redditors there.

>>16100739

>Akihabara

>servant battle arena

>Teach

Yeah I hope its parody/comedy because that does sound more retarded than Mordred.

>>16100900

Apparently one of the Servants, Kundry Rider, can use Projection. Shirou is no longer a special snowflake.

>>16101243

Liking Da Vinci is just as bad as liking Astolfo, at least in the sexual sense

>>16101271

That entirely depends on if Da Vinci has a puss puss.

>>16101311

And Astolfo doesn't have the Morph skill, so it's a fundamentally different discussion about whether or not it's gay to fuck Da Vinci or Astolfo.

>>16101243

I'm going to unlock them all then get all of the mats. Are both even CEs worth getting or should I just focus on mlbing one of them?

>>16101370

Invul pierce & divine attack are pretty niche but still very solid CEs to pick up. Full attack stats and NP charge always has a use and you'll want them for farming the nodes if you have nothing from previous valentines or the gacha CEs. It's the servant CEs that have no real use besides xp bomb fodder after the event is over.

>>16101370

Nigger the event is 2 weeks long you should have time to MLB both with ease.

>>16101370

If I'm correct no CE from this Valentine event ever becomes relevant again in events so keep that in mind. The store CE have pierce invincible or 30% more damage to divine so pick the one that's more useful to you. At MLB they provide 50% NP gauge at start which is nothing new.

>>16101370

>Not having both event CE already MLB

>>16101452

There's no reason not to get both as you can never have enough 50% charge CEs. Sure, there are very few times you want them over Golden Sumo but that doesn't matter.

>>16101457

Fucking this

>>16101457

I can't care about this event. It looks like a god damned chore.

>>16101457

Just using last year's CEs has been enough to make farming extremely easy, not sure I'll bother.

>>16101243

Clearing everyone including the dudes. Almost done with all the girls, I'm only missing Liz Brave, Kuro and Ibaraki. I think my favorite scene from the new batch of servants was Serenity, it was touching as fuck. She doesn't deserve to be paired with Raikou and Kiyo in the obsessive group, she's a legitimately good girl who just wants (You) to headpat her while you hold her hand.

>>16101271

Does it make you gay if you like the Mona Lisa? I legitimately don't know how to feel about Da Vinci, it's gay yet at the same time it isn't.

>>16101565

It's a man in a woman's body. That's the long and short of it. Caligstro from GranBlue is the exact same shit if you know of him.

>>16101565

It's not gay unless you're some kind of retard that thinks a pussy is gay.

I'm almost done clearing up the girls because of my E ranked luck and most lower rarity servants are boys

>>16106109

Haha if only there was one near by

>>16107003

Polite sage for blogpost

It isn't nice, anon. It isn't nice at all. I work my fucking ass off to pay $1550/mo rent for a SHITTY one bedroom apt that's infested with roaches Was infested with roaches, until I went insane with commercial insecticide bait/traps in a SHITTY area full of homeless people and loud mexicans ALL so I have the privilege of living closer to work so I can pay a nearly 40% tax on what I make because I'm a fucking white male and so everyone else needs to have their hands in my pockets. If I wasn't so rooted here, I would leave immediately, but there's existensial dread about that, too, because Commies have moved out of state everywhere else and so are rightfully hated wherever they land.

>>16107036

You dont seem like a bad guy but unfortunately im on the other side of the country

>>16107036

As long as you tell people you left commieforina to escape the spics and leftists and as long as you don't act like a piece of shit a fair number of places won't mind you. I would welcome you to Texas but you really don't want to come here, there are too many mexicans and I am looking for a place to escape to myself.

>>16107077

>there are too many mexicans and I am looking for a place to escape to myself.

At a grocery store on a given day I go shopping, I MIGHT, MIGHT see ONE other white person the entire time I'm there. I hope to god you don't have it that bad already, because it's a fucking disaster area over here. I keep thinking oregon, but so does everyone else. Maybe somewhere frigid like Michigan?

>>16107099

>he sees other white people more than once or twice a month

It's better in north and far east Texas but only a matter of time until those areas are lost too. Where I am it's abysmal. Anyone with the ability to do so has already left. Moving somewhere cold is your best bet and what I plan to do. Spics hate the cold.

>>16107140

It's probably about 3-4 times a month outside of work, where thankfully there is a small group of us that cling together.

But yeah, cold will be the best bet for us, aside from Canaderp and dem programs up there. Anyway, godspeed.

>>16107140

>>16107158

North Dakota welcomes all into it's icy clutches. If you have literally any marketable skills you will find work, and if you don't you can bust your ass off in the oilfields doing 30$/hr no benefits. Renting is cheap as dirt too. There's nothing to do here but work, drink and shitpost but the fact you're in a Fate thread speaks volumes about what you do for entertainment and the internet speeds are completely acceptable.

>>16109165

I already had the superior Titoria

>Get this week's ticket

>Might as well toss it at MHXA or Jack as I have neither

>Get OG Saber Alter, who I didn't have

Things do look good!

By the way, the next banner is just the Story banner with the limited Mash CEs. Only roll if you hate your SQ or you want Dumplings over Flowers.

>>16110544

>By the way, the next banner is just the Story banner with the limited Mash CEs.

It's worse than the real Story banner since it doesn't include the story locked servants.

>>16110899

That's bad. Especially considering the fact that they're in the Valentine's banners.

As if getting Ana when MHXA came out wasn't evidence enough.

>>16096671

That's exactly what was stated in the show, m8. Kuro's personality is the one that was artificially created when they unnaturally altered Illya by programming her with the Einzbern knowledge of all previous generations of the family. Illya is what she was in the first place before all that crap was crammed into her head, an ordinary girl.

>>16110899

is this the worst banner in the history of FGO?

>>16112473

It doesn't have Medb on rate up so no.

The Amagami artist deserved better

>>16112548

It doesn't have Kiara either.

>>16112563

Kiara is at least an interesting character in an uncommon class. Medb has no character beyond being a turbo slut and is a completely generic buster rider.

>>16095713

Watch at least the fights of episode 22 to see why it was talked about.

Blackbeard's Valentine is the best of them all.

>>16113072

He is one of the three traps in the game

>>16113072

d'Eon can change their gender at will thanks to their Self-Suggestion skill.

How come nobody ever mentions how good Lancer Vlad is?

>>16113117

Because Leonidas does a similar job and he's free.

My Vlad Lancer is grailed

>>16113072

IRL at death he was confirmed to have a penis but also fully formed breasts.