/v/ - Video Games

Are you doing the sidequests or just plowing through the main quest? What's your clan?

>>16033106

>Am I doing it wrong anons?

Yep

>>16033106

>Am I doing it wrong?

Dunno. Follow my simple flowchart, OP

Start: Am I playing a Malkavian?

YES: You are doing it right.

NO: You are doing it wrong.

>>16033145

>generic early 2000s anti-nazi propaganda game

Meh.

to be honest, you need to be a part of that time period to really appreciate the atmosphere of the game. the late 90s setting feels so nostalgic for me.

>>16033171

Malk is meaningless unless you've played the "real" version first you dumdum

Not liking vtmb should be against the rules

>>16033387

Having shit taste should be against the rules but this is Mark's /v/

Do you actually like Vampire games?

Next

Do you actually like RPG's?

If yes this should be right up your alley. If it still isn't your taste probably sucks.

>>16033106

Shh, OP. You mustn't talk about how mediocre one of /v/'s sacred cows actually is. You can't say ANYTHING bad about this, new vegas, or stalker

its baffling there are people who cant get invested in the characters and story here, since its so well done

you either dont give a shit about anything in the game, youre moron who likes to get linearly feeded the story like a casual or you cant get exited about things because it doesnt have movie moments like modern games

whatever is the case, its sad you expect everything to be done for you instead of finding things out thru gameplay

>>16033106

The key thing to enjoying it is understanding that you are playing a first person role playing game and not an fps. Otherwise the shitastic interface and controls will enrage you to no end. Personal player skill almost never comes into place and it's all about stats. Also don't try a charisma run first. There are forced combat sections that are unskipable so pick a combat skill of your choice and keep it maxed out.

>>16033569

>if you don't share the opinions of the hivemind then you aren't /v/

>>16033596

There's not liking something and then there's being a contrarian faggot because you think that's what /v/ is all about

>>16033537

>Shh, OP. You mustn't talk about how mediocre one of /v/'s sacred cows actually is. You can't say ANYTHING bad about this, new vegas, or stalker

God forbid people with similar tastes should gather on a forum. That being said comments like >>16033416 are retarded or trolling but at this point it's hard to tell with all the shitposters and retards

I personally liked the game a lot… but for example I dropped another /v/ favorite - Dragons Dogma about an hour in

>>16033145

There's a reason why no one talks about those games anymore.

>>16033606

Why do people… break up their sentences… with ellipses like that?

I played this very briefly years ago, just to see if it ran well and the like and never touched it again. I'll play it again at some point, planning to do an immersive sim season or month. The game is pretty unfinished though and very rough around the edges.

>>16033740

the GoG version is fixed with the 10.0 patch pre-installed.

>>16033615

And whats that reason anon?

>>16033824

They were really mediocre.

>>16033554

That isnt the case at all I love atmospheric and text heavy games that also require you to pay attention in order to actually get what's going on or to derive enjoyment from the characters but I just dont feel anything towards these characters. I'll give the game another shot this week but it just feels too cliche to me. Also it'd help if your character wasnt ugly but that's a nitpick and part of the games grimy LA vampire atmosphere.

>>16033988

If it's your first time, do it like I did. I dropped the game after the Ocean Hotel mission because it wasn't grabbing me either, but I came back to it a few months later and it clicked and I loved it absolutely.

>>16033106

Yes, it's gay. Play a JRPG instead.

>>16034017

Yeah I've played Blood Omen back in 2008 or something it was good I never got to finish Soul Reaver though.

game turns to shit when you reach the sewers

don't invest in dialogue options. go full combat.

>>16034031

I played a demo for Soul Reaver, but I've never played any of the Soul Reaver games. I think they're all available on GOG.

It's got really boring combat and the atmosphere is dwarfed by games like Thief TDP. Whole thing feels like a half-baked source mod.

Its predecessor, Vampire: The Masquerade Redemption is a better game by far, even if it is a Diablo-clone. One thing Redemption had was a multiplayer campaign which heavily emulated tabletop games by having a game master-type player. Further, the gameplay in Redemption is simply better because it's just a Diablo-clone.

>>16034017

I'll never understand why people like that game. It's just a basic hack & slash.

>>16034053

It's well written

>>16034056

It's very atmospheric as well, but the gameplay is bare-bones and repetitive in a mind-numbing way. It has a low skill ceiling.

>>16034070

>There's something transformative that people identify with that make the big name game franchises pop and become successes.

Yeah, that's what I'm asking about. It's not like I hate the game, I just don't see it.

>>16033106

>complaining about the dialogue

the dialogue is good, you should be complaining about the atrocious combat

>>16034074

Same for all western games.

>>16033106

>Am I doing it wrong anons?

you play wrong game, it's not for you

who are all these pathetic individuals, you are all idiots

Redemption is irredeemable trash compared to VTMB you FUCKING MORONS

its even blander, even harder to play, and its even CLUNKIER

what the fuck happened to /v/, who the fuck are you, did the reddit arrive to shit on the game because it has mature subjects again, it sure feels like it

this is deliberate AMNESIA AND TROLLING

>>16034154

you only get this sequence with the quest mods.

>>16033106

whatever you decide, OP. Just DONT OPEN IT!

>>16034052

It's a terrible game, stop being contrarian because you think it's cool or something.

>>16034189

Go back to your hole.

>>16033106

It's a shit game. What did you expect?

>>16034113

Sauce on the semen demon?

>>16034170

>vtmb

>mature subjects

Maybe if you're 13 years old and think shit like Linkin Park is edgy and deep, then sure.

Weird I just started replaying this today. Anyone play the newest clan quest mod yet, how is it?

>>16034096

Too difficult to explain. Impossible to make you feel the "right way" about it. Sadly you like what you like, and if you don't like something, that's just normal.

Like what are games you like? I'm sure there's someone who feels the same way about those games. Subjectivity is something that just can't really be expressed/conveyed in a meaningful manner.

That said, I found LoK to be a bit boring too. I like the setting. But the gameplay wasn't my cup of tea. Back then I was playing games like Doom and Quake.

>>16034208

I liked that they put harley quinn into this game. When i first saw her i clapped.

>>16034222

>harley quinn

I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!!!

Nice trips.

if you don't like it open, then it's ok. play something else.

Hey, if you don't like it it's fine.

I got sucked really hard by it, but if you aren't feeling it, just play something else.

>>16033579

>Also don't try a charisma run first. There are forced combat sections that are unskipable so pick a combat skill of your choice and keep it maxed out.

You can do a charisma run first if you play a Toreador, because Celerity will carry you through combat.

>>16033537

You stick out like a sore thumb reddit, please kill yourself faggot

>>16034154

Thats from a mod

But really the base gsme should have had Type O Negative songs like this one

>this many people setting bait for an OP who just wanted an honest answer

I fucking hate this place.

>>16033988

>it just feels too cliche to me

What about it feels this way? I never got the impression the vampires or the drama was cliche, or forced, or anything like that. I suppose history hasn't been kind to oh-so-enlightened characters like Beckett, but almost every cast member is a believable individual with motivations and goals which make sense given his situation.

Also, you never told us what kind of vampire you're playing - Malkavian and Nosferatu are bad ideas for first playthroughs, and you mentioned your character being ugly which makes me think you picked Nosferatu.

How far are you into the game? What quests have you done? I'm very interested to hear your perspective on the game because I finished it for the first time earlier last month and I adored almost everything about it, barring technical flaws.

>>16047251

I used the flying bat attack as a Gangrel.

>>16033988

Yeah, I can see that, the game is great, but it's really rough around the edges and makes it hard for people too see the good deep in the game, like stalker it's just not meant for everyone, for me the moment I met jack was when the game won me over, fucking love his actor, and his character, fucks me up that in the books he died, but I say give it time you might come back to it again and try it once more and like the themes, characters and story.

>>16047755

Can you kill the werewolf?

I was too busy running for my life to check

>>16033106

No, it wasn't a good game. Boring, shitty dialogue, choices don't matter at all, and the gameplay is so bad that it would have been better off as a visual novel.

>>16047949

back to fortnite, little sooner.

>>16047939

The roof of the observatory dome with the telescope has a set of sliding doors you can control. You need to activate them when the werewolf is in the doorway

>>16047251

Are you a Tremere? Thaumaturgy definitely makes that fight easier along with the flamethrower and the sword from the Tzimizce fight.

>>16047251

The game literally gives you a spook nuke in the form of a flamethrower right before this. You have no excuse.

>>16050518

Nines used a grenade to decapitate the Werewolf which is an instant kill with or without silver. Fire and radiation also does lasting damage to Werewolves so any of that to the heart will kill them too.

>>16050526

Maybe it's just me but most times I've played the game the flamethrower just bugged out and didn't do anything substantial. So I just use the sword to take her out cause she's just a damage sponge.

>>16034113

>steam

you can play it without steam dummy, in fact /v/ typically recommends pirating it.

>>16047755

FUCK

I that fucking raptor

I forget about it every time I play

>>16050657

The grenade was just a dud he uses as a decoy. Nines killed the werewolf through conventional means because hes just that cool.

>>16050657

Fucking Celerity abusing leech fuckers.

>>16047251

Which discipline or whatever Kuei Jin analogue even transforms you into a hunk of shit like that?

>>16051373

That guy is just a creepy chink.

>>16051388

He vanishes if you try to attack him and a Malkavian players get scared shitless when you met him though

>>16051434

Hey cow

>>16051524

>combat isn't what makes it shine.

being an RPG doesn't excuse that sad, janky excuse for combat.

>>16051532

It doesn't make it a bad game either.

>>16051583

Having bad combat does a lot less favors for your game when it is something you spend a large portion of the game doing.

>>16051355

Maxing out Gangrel's protean gives you beast mode.

>>16051586

I only ever remember 2 real combat section in that entire game and again it didn't stop enjoying the game at all.

>>16051391

Another one of the chink space aliens?

>>16051583

>being a bad game doesn't make a game a bad game

brainlet

>>16051628

Yes because the shooting was the sole and core aspect of the game.

I mean really if we're going to follow this point to it's conclusion can we throw Deus Ex on the fire as well? I mean arguably shooting was a bigger aspect of that game.

>>16050657

Law of Conservation of detail, he has grenades so that's about the only logical conclusion. Especially since he's in a Werewolf's claws and doesn't have time to do anything else.

>>16051373

>Are grenades really that strong?

No. The grenade is put in a position where it's lethal damage can kill the Werewolf in time which is inside his throat. Even then the stats of an Elder vampire can realistically pull it off while someone like Nines needs to have the initiative or take the Werewolf by surprise and the Werewolf to then proceed to demonstrate a gag reflex. All within about 1 turn in tabletop time.

It's pretty much luck that Nines survived and won or he's secretly a Diablerist and more powerful then anyone realizes.

>>16051621

>Weakness: Horrible parenting skills

Gets me every time. This might as well be the character sheet for the Emprah

>>16051621

Are mages a different species like vampires or can you be something else and mage at the same time? I know everyone can have true faith, and a Gargoyle Hunter with high faith is even famous

Mages seem so op idk why doesn't everyone just try to become a mage, or why Tremere reduced themselves from mages to vampires

>>16051677

From what I remember of the law Mages exist in a separate strata but are basically human with a divine magical spark. I don't think you can become one with vampirism either that all runs of blood.

>>16051677

>Tremere reduced themselves from mages to vampires

You don't generally choose to become a vampire.

>>16050657

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>>16051657

This talk about P&P mechanics makes me angry there's no decent game based on Wraith.

>>16051740

The Tremere clan were originally all mages, but their ability to control magic was waning and they wanted to find a way to have eternal life without magic.

>>16051744

Nobody plays Wraith. It is the kind of game where the lore and settings are top-tier, but finding a table and a competent enough GM to run/play this shit needs a divine intervention. I do concur, however. Vidya based on Wraith done proper is going to be the coolest, the most depressing, and the most hopeful shit ever.

>>16051740

>You don't generally choose to become a vampire.

Close enough. Once upon a time. A literal dumb faggot frog (yes, tricked a vampire into being his ingredient for ritual which will turn mages into vampires. Tricked his fellow housemates that this will grant them immortality they seek, but didn't tell them they would become vampires and lose magic (which the mage lives for) forever. Then the faggot forced blood bond (blood-induced mindbreak) onto his fellows when the cat is out and then rewrites vampire history saying "WE WUZ VAMPIRES AND SHIT NIGGAS I SWEAR, WE DIDN'T STEAL VAMPIRISM FROM ANOTHER SOMEHOW MISSING VAMPIRE WE SWEAR" to avoid getting their asses kicked by other vampires and the vampire society bought that shit because the faggot and his assmates kill all witnesses and everyone who know the true story.

>>16051373

>I want to know the power levels of Strauss

Strauss is most likely seventh or sixth generation, which is powerful enough to give your average vampire a run for his money, but not enough to duke it out with real movers and shakers in the VtM world. A Methuselah would vaporize him in an eyeblink.

>and this guy though

Nobody knows. I have three versions.

1. He could be a Yama King or a Kuei-jin slave of one, they are pretty damn powerful. But such a thing would not go unnoticed in Kuei-jin territory, as they kill Yama Kings and their puppets on sight.

2. He could be a very powerful demon, hence his interest in souls.

3. Could also be an insane Euthanatos mage.

>>16051785

>and the vampire society bought that shit

Tzimisce didn't, and are pretty fucking pissed at the Tremere, as they used captured Tzimisce in their experiments.

>>16051352

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>>16051749

The Camarilla elders know as well. They just don't care. Hardestat (Ventrue Camarilla Founder) still calls the Tremere "Usurpers". Lets recap the list of groups who's influential members know the Tremere are fucking bullshit:

1. Ventrue (You don't harbor them as long as the Ventrue have and not learn what they are about)

2. Gangrel (Gargoyle ingrediants)

3. Nosferatu (Gargoyle ingrediants, and even their fucking NEONATES know it. Because their info brokers.)

4. Tzimisce (The guys that the Tremere stole vampirism from).

5. Salubri (These Tien-Shin-Han looking motherfuckers almost don't exist anymore, because the Tremere ate their fucking antidelviuan and then framed the rest of the clan so badly that the Camarilla wiped em out. The ones that are left have pretty much all thrown in with the Sabbat to get revenge.)

6. Asamites (The tremere put a blood curse on their whole clan, that they only recently got rid of it after like 600 fucking years.)

7. The Order of Hermes (The original mages that the Tremere were a part of, and betrayed. The Tremere and the Order still regularly get into wars with one another.)

So yah. Everyone who knows anything know the Tremere are bullshit dangerous. Their are four primary reasons they haven't been wiped out.

1. They are useful to the Camarilla, so the Camarilla keep them around to help. And shield them from threats in return. You rarely see Tremere Princes, but frequently see Tremere Sherrifs, Seneschals, Deputies, Keepers of Elysium, even Scourges. Because everyone wants a Warlock working for them.

2. Thaumaturgy is the most flexible and bullshit overpowered vampire discipline in the entire game. And the Tremere have near exclusive access to it.

3.They are one of the most unified groups in the entire setting. They literally remotely kill all their traitors via blood magic, and bloodbond those loyal to them to make them even more loyal.

4. They have a fucking active Antideluvian leading their clan.

>>16052003

Only thing for sure about gook shopkeeper is that you can't feed on him in game. So he's classified as non-mortal. If I had to guess, I'd wager he's just a Kuei Jin.

>>16052444

>Salubri (These Tien-Shin-Han looking motherfuckers almost don't exist anymore, because the Tremere ate their fucking antidelviuan and then framed the rest of the clan so badly that the Camarilla wiped em out. The ones that are left have pretty much all thrown in with the Sabbat to get revenge.)

There is a total of 6 non-Sabbat Salubri left, iirc. They have the whole "childe diablerizes sire" thing going on, so they never increase their numbers out of fear of attracting attention.

>The Tremere and the Order still regularly get into wars with one another.

Source? Because even an average mage will easily wipe the floor with a powerful vampire.

>>16052519

https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Massasa_War

If your playing a Tremere, you should/need to have contingency plans in place to deal with Order of Hermes mages. Especially in the modern nights. Thankfully, mage aren't as hard to deal with as people like to pretend.

>>16052572

Damn, I kinda missed that tidbit of information, thanks.

>Thankfully, mage aren't as hard to deal with as people like to pretend.

Well, it's a bit hard to compete with a guy who can think you out of existence.

Why is this bumplocked?

>>16052632

The mods hate actual discussion.

>>16052852

I don't see how this is any different than the WH40k threads we have. We're discussing the lore of a universe used for the setting of a video game.

>>16051785

>Nobody plays Wraith. It is the kind of game where the lore and settings are top-tier, but finding a table and a competent enough GM to run/play this shit needs a divine intervention.

Yeah, that's probably right. The shadow system makes a nasty barrier of entry since it's pretty much built around players NTR'ing each other. It probably didn't help that it was the only WOD game that didn't suck up to any subculture at a time WW was rallying goths and furries.

Are you into Kult, anon?

>>16051621

Realistically hunters with access to modern weapons should be a lot more powerful. Thermite, phosphorous, explosives, long range weapons. Add true faith and a bit of vamp juice to the mix an van helsing looks like a rank amateur.

>>16052962

Not sure why I am replying in a sinking thread, but the answer is no. I like modern fantasy adventures (a dash of gothic is also nice) and WoD can provide that, but I am not into anything "deeper" than that. The crowd of emo-goths and furfags with a psycho-sociopathic streaks are into those though.

>>16034202

>>16034113

Uhhh… Kanako of KineticGTR, I think?

Give Vampire: The Masquerade Redemption a try. It might be more up your alley. It's considerably more classically gothic, at least up until you're at the last act and in the Final Nights in modern L.A.

>>16054435

True Faith is so rare that the Hunter you fight in Bloodlines is an anomaly.

go back to playing minecraft then or whatever it is you people do