1767aa No.16026973
>coop fallout game
<no npcs'
<lore-rape
<reused assets
<rick and morty marketing
<basebuilding
<fortnite microtransaction model
Just your typical nuBethesda slop by Pete Hines.
41b8f0 No.16026983
>bethesda fallout
>potential to be good
a087f7 No.16027001
>>16026973
>Oblivion.
There was so much to look forward to from this game, especially after coming from Morrowind. And what we got was a consolized fucking turd that Bethesda's quality never recovered from.
>Deus Ex 2: Invisible War
Case in point that consoles really do fucking ruin everything. Instead of continuing from the original, it ended up being some generic fucking sci-fi garbage with only mentions of the original game, and barely even that.
0548d8 No.16027002
>>16026983
It would've at least been a fair pirate. Pretty sure there's multiplayer for all the fallout's apart from 4 anyway, not sure on the stability of the mods though.
0548d8 No.16027015
>>16027010
>that slab of meat
fucking christ
7e2865 No.16027026
>>16027013
Skullgirls is a good candidate, if only a single reason had to be picked up I'd say because the characters never shut up with memes and muh references
Also pic related
e9970c No.16027032
>>16026991
>zoomer
Cuckchan stay the fuck off this site.
1767aa No.16027033
>>16027010
Holy fucking shit.
080a18 No.16027039
>bethesda
>potential to be good
461288 No.16027041
>threads that had the potential to be good, but got fucked op being from cuckchan
ecb043 No.16027042
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16026973
>games that had the potential to be good
>Fallout 76
Fallout 76 never had the potential to be good. It was fucked from the start, because Bethesda was making it. You might think, in a universe of infinite possibilities - the stars could align just right, and the fates interceed, and a miracle would happen… but no. Even in a universe of infinite possibilities, there is no actual possibility of Bethesda not fucking up FO76.
At this point, we really would have been better off if Masthead/Interplay got winning the lottery lucky and were legally awarded their right to make Fallout Online and rushed out the half-baked alpha to keep from losing the contract again.
0548d8 No.16027047
>>16027038
Zoomer is a 4cuck meme anon.
e3f071 No.16027057
Maybe if they completely revamped FO4's shitty gameplay, but aside from that this game looked like a trainwreck from the getgo.
8c7385 No.16027066
Obvious answer would be Breath of the Wild. Bad decision was everything. breakable weapons, scattered dungeons instead of just a few and cohesively designed dungeons, over-abundant collectables, lack of a variety of enemies and bosses, lack of zelda music and so on and so for. The biggest reason for that was probably caused by being pushed as an early switch game when it was a port of a wii u game. If it had another year or less, it could have fine tuned a lot of the elements that were missing in Breath of the Wild to make it a Zelda game.
Its current state just feels like building blocks instead of a complete sandbox experience like they promised. Everything felt half-assed and poor execution on almost every aspect of the game. I think the next game using the same engine will learn from the mistakes of Breath of the Wild. At least, I hope they do.
07a419 No.16027080
ITT: imageboards that had the potential to be good, but got fucked by poor decisions
2cb857 No.16027090
>>16027066
BOTW is such a good game because it isn't just another crappy Zelda game. It does a good job of making you value loot (breakable weapons) offers good challenges in the shrines and has a likeable cast as far as Nintendo games go. It's biggest flaws are it's still tied to Zelda so you have to have awful dungeons instead of just making it an exploitable world where you're prepping to siege Ganon.
07a419 No.16027092
>>16027090
>BOTW is such a good game
e3f071 No.16027095
>>16027090
>offers good challenges in the shrines
Fucking wew lad.
I like the game, but the shrines are literally the worst part with how easy almost all of them are.
They're not as bad as the tombs in every modern Womb Raider game, but they're pretty mediocre.
18d7ef No.16027101
>>16027090
BOTW might seriously be the most underwhelming game ever made. Ever facet of it, from the soundtrack to the game design just makes me groan.
b49032 No.16027107
>>16026983
If it had different devs and the aim was to appeal not to casuals and women but actual fans of the series, then it could have been good. The engine and some of the design had promise, for the time.
e3f071 No.16027112
>>16027107
>The engine
In Fallout 3?
Even back then the engine was years out of date and extremely wonky.
2cb857 No.16027122
>>16027095
Some of the later shrines are actually hard. You can pick what shrines you want to do and what you want to avoid.
>>16027101
>I am literally shaking and this is my argument
0548d8 No.16027132
>>16027122
Some sure but spreading out about 100 iirc is just dumb, if it were 5 highly detailed, interesting areas that took a few hours to get through, it'd be a lot more entertaining.
411c9e No.16027137
>>16027112
While you're right about the engine's being wonky and out of date, much of it was because Bethesda's programmers are pajeet-tier. Bethesda's Havok implementation was probably one of the worst development jobs ever made, and you gotta remember that the guy who did characters animations since Oblivion failed his animation classes and was hired only because he's friends with Dwarf Howard.
e3f071 No.16027144
>>16027137
>and you gotta remember that the guy who did characters animations since Oblivion failed his animation classes and was hired only because he's friends with Dwarf Howard.
That explains so much.
Jesus fucking christ.
ecb043 No.16027161
>>16027090
This is bait, but I'm going to respond anyhow.
>BOTW is such a good game
It's not
>because it isn't just another crappy Zelda game.
No, it's just a crappy paint-by-numbers open world game similar to what you'd expect out of Ubisoft but with a Zelda skin and no lootboxes.
>It does a good job of making you value loot (breakable weapons)
No, it makes you avoid using power weapons because you don't want to waste them - clogging your inventory while you fuck around with shit weapons expecting a tough enemy or scenario around the corner that never comes. If they wanted to make you value weapons, then give the player some means by which to maintenance them and keep them in top form, with the potential to break permanently if you neglect them.
>offers good challenges in the shrines
No, it doesn't - because there is no structure to the game. Since you can go in any direction after leaving the central starting area - every area has to be designed as if it were perpetually stuck in the second level. Difficulty and puzzles do not scale, and pretty much all of your base abilities are unlocked right from the start before you leave the tutorial area. So there is no mastery progression or new trick to learn by combining proficiency of old abilities with experimentation of new abilities.
>and has a likeable cast as far as Nintendo games go.
I didn't give a fuck about a single one. Giving them voices and "emotional" lenghty non-interactive cutscenes only made me care less somehow.
>It's biggest flaws are it's still tied to Zelda
It's a flaw, but not it's biggest.
>prepping to siege Ganon.
You don't need to prep for siege Ganon. You can go and beat him pretty much right from the outset, which is really the only challenge the game has to offer, and gearing yourself up beforehand basically just gives you the ability to skip the entire area and drop right into Ganon's boss room.
Also, the hardest part of Ganon was figuring out he was invincible until having his shot reflected back at him, since I never actually needed to use that particular move once in the entire game beyond the tutorial where it told me it existed. So even once I figured it out, I was completely inexperienced with the timing necessary for using it.
That is fucking terrible design.
07a419 No.16027163
>>16027144
>>16027137
Nothing wrong with Gamebryo
Plenty of wrong with Bethesda, both the dev and publisher branches
07a419 No.16027165
>>16027042
>>16027161
Stop spacing like a fucking redditor
You think I don't see you in the RE thread faggot?
Space like a normal fucking human being you low IQ cunt.
2cb857 No.16027176
>>16027132
No, then you would have a generic zelda game and those things are awful. Same shitty set up where you get 1 weapon to use for 1 dungeon and you're done until the final dungeon makes you use it in 2 rooms. I've played that, many times over.
If you want that just go play Darkdsiders. It's the best Zelda game ever made. It took Nintendo's stale formula and updated it.
>>16027161
>The games problem is I don't use my resources so the game is at fault for giving me them.
It was never hard to get good weapons, you just refuse to do them.
>There's no pacing or harder areas
You're wrong on both fronts. Some areas need items or equipment to explore. You bleed out other wise so there's your mastery coming in. If you want to properly explore a cold area you need cold items. Enemies in different areas do different amounts of damage. You need additional stamina to get to some areas.
>>16027165
Newfag who doesn't know how to properly format text for reading on a screen.
18d7ef No.16027177
>>16027122
Back to tumblr you pink haired spic. BOTW is a disappointment and anyone with a three digit IQ can see that.
07a419 No.16027186
>>16027176
>then you would have a generic zelda game
That's what BOTW is, it's Zeldo with Early Access RPG Survival shit attached to it like a fucking tumor.
ca6139 No.16027189
>>16027163
gamebryo's a great engine, should have died on the original xbox tho.
07a419 No.16027193
>>16027186
>>16027176
Same with Red Dead 2 by the way
Yet the subhumans who only play the most marketed thing will gobble it up because they have no standards.
0548d8 No.16027197
>>16027176
>highly interesting, highly enjoyable dungeons that instead of lasting 10 minutes last you up to three hours
>I want the shrines
Anon, I won't sit here and say I didn't enjoy the game because I did. But my main issue was the shrines and lack of exploration, the most interesting place was Hyrule castle, that's it. There were no other really interesting places. The 'dungeons' in the big robot things weren't that great.
>It was never hard to get good weapons
It's a silly gimmick anon, the whole "your weapon will break after a few hits despite being a fucking well made sword" was a shit idea. Imagine that in real life, your sword just breaks after 10 hits. They needed something else to deal damage really, a low power but up-gradable weapon along side breakable weapons would've been much better, that way you don't find something cool and then get fucked.
2cb857 No.16027221
>>16027197
Do you not understand exploration doesn't mean you find a chest at the end of a set path? Finding new areas, new fruits to cook with and ways to explore new areas is all exploration. It's just not your bing bing wahoo exploration with a jingle to give you cummies.
99da4f No.16027223
>>16027001
>Deus Ex 2: Invisible War
>Case in point that consoles really do fucking ruin everything
desu ex 2 was ported to xbox after the pc launch. how can you blame consoles for its development?
c57d84 No.16027226
>>16027066
I have some hope for the next Zelda because regardless of what you think of the game itself, the engine is incredible. Now that they no longer have to spend time developing that, I would love the next Zelda to use the same basic gameplay but in a more developed world instead of a post-apocalyptic wasteland (and to bring back some classic Zelda elements like unique items).
166bfa No.16027235
>>16027090
>breakable weapons
>valued loot
that does the opposite you paramount of fuckwads, it makes every weapon very unimpressive and it makes consumables equally so when you already have 20 salt rubbed grilled prime steaks in your backpack just from walking around and killing deer that happen to cross your path. BOTW was a game with some very comfy aesthetics that went overboard straight into tedium.
07a419 No.16027251
>>16027223
They developed the game taking into consideration console limitations.
Same with most FPS games nowadays, even Parajew does this shit with their garbage strat agmes nowadays.
2cb857 No.16027263
>>16027235
>The game didn't stop me grinding infinite health items so the game is at fault for how I played.
Okay Ullillillillillia.
99da4f No.16027273
>>16027251
>They developed the game taking into consideration console limitations.
how can that be true if it could only be ported to xbox and not ps2 at the time because ps2 couldnt handle it, and even the xbox version wasnt easily ported?
the game even on PC was a bulky piece of shit. if it was made with console limitations in mind it probably would have been lighter weight.
07a419 No.16027288
>>16027273
>how can that be true if it could only be ported to xbox and not ps2 at the time
Because Micro$shaft was literally paying developers to make games for their failure of a console to bolster their game library, what the fuck do you think Morrowind was and why Bethesda still has a good relationship with Microshit with the Xbox being their main platform since Oblivion?
166bfa No.16027301
>>16027263
if by "grinding" you mean walking around exploring the game map that I didn't pay money to walk around in, then sure, I guess playing all of the game and not just the 60% included in the main quest, while still having it be balanced and not a tedious cakewalk, is simply too much to ask for.
2cb857 No.16027319
>>16027288
Every company does that you tard.
The Xbox wasn't a slouch in power at the time. It was competitive with PCs of the era.
166bfa No.16027325
>>16027319
>t. faggot that never experienced the magic of Morrowind on Xbox
I am glad you didn't play that
1893ea No.16027349
It could've been good if it was lead by a human being instead of a syphillitic retard.
1960df No.16027367
>>16027039
Your thumbnail ruins the surprise faggot.
Still good
99da4f No.16027381
>>16027288
kind of a stretch there, anon. the games were ported long after launch. deus ex 2 was casualized because of all the casuals entering the PC market, not because pc games get ported to a console.
pc gaming was dying at that time, and when hl2 launched with steam it was officially dead. by the time crysis came out, it was a urine-soaked-corpse.
438ea4 No.16027437
>RE outbreak
>Doomed to stay on the PS2 despite being a pretty good coop game and would be so much better with online coop
Just port it to modern systems already
18d7ef No.16027514
>>16027437
On one hand having a modern port would be nice but on the other hand playing it with a modern online audience would be hell. A game like that could've only worked pre2007, especially one with a property as known as Resident Evil.
6a8d31 No.16027547
Mass effect series. First game wasn't the best but it had some good ideas that got flushed away with 2nd game. You could also say the same about the Crysis series too.
07a419 No.16027906
>>16027319
>Every company does that you tard.
Not on that scale and not with that much marketing
>The Xbox wasn't a slouch in power at the time. It was competitive with PCs of the era
Except the CPU was fucking garbage and it still had a gamepad as it's main input
>deus ex 2 was casualized because of all the casuals entering the PC market
Is that why devs were releasing games with console parity?
>pc gaming was dying in 2003
Hey newfag
07a419 No.16027908
>>16027381
>deus ex 2 was casualized because of all the casuals entering the PC market
Is that why devs were releasing games with console parity?
>pc gaming was dying in 2003
Hey newfag
30adb1 No.16027922
>>16027001
>oblivion
Never forget that they turned Cyrodiil from pic related to fucking New Zealand.
ca6139 No.16027976
>>16027906
>>16027908
Your defense is too limpwristed to be taken seriously. You don't even know how to use an imageboard correctly.
07a419 No.16028023
>>16027976
How so? I have both defended my viewpoint and posted correctly.
0fb404 No.16028132
>>16028023
The moment you said the following, which proves you know jackshit.
>Not on that scale and not with that much marketing
ca6139 No.16028203
>>16028132
I was just talking about tone (he types like a faggot) but this is good too, thanks for the laugh I'd have missed it otherwise.
07a419 No.16028315
>>16028132
<The moment you said the following, which proves you know jackshit.
>Not on that scale and not with that much marketing
Elaborate
ca6139 No.16028457
>>16028315
>Elaborate
My god you're fucking dumb
166bfa No.16028573
>>16028516
This is painful to read so I'm going to clue you in. He's saying your statement is blatantly wrong, and that proves you're ignorant on the subject matter. It's not rocket science
07a419 No.16028802
>>16028573
>He's saying your statement is blatantly wrong
Except Microsoft incentivized third parties to their console, moreso than Sony and Nintendo ever did
ca6139 No.16028804
Imagine not knowing the playstation ever happened
07a419 No.16028811
>>16028804
Sony incentivized devs to scale back to their console and make shit exclusively for it
Microsoft incentivized devs to scale back games and release them on PC and their own console since they pretty much owned both.
Can you not read?
I literally referenced the playstation with Sony in the post just above yours.
ca6139 No.16028820
Every post is dumber than the last, how high can we go?
07a419 No.16028826
>>16028820
Again, not an argument
Keep deflecting though
ca6139 No.16028846
>>16028826
Don't worry, I'm not deflecting or even trying to argue. I'm just mocking you. You really are that stupid.
07a419 No.16028866
>>16028846
>You're stupid because I can't prove you wrong
Ok, next you'll tell me Bethesda had no deals or relationships with Microsoft for 10 years
2cb857 No.16028952
>>16028802
Nintendo did a shit load worse than MS did. There is a reason why everyone jumped ship with the N64 release and it wasn't just cartridges. Nintendo set up almost all the business cancer in the industry because they had a monopoly in the US and Japan.
>>16027906
>Gamepad as main input.
Literally nothing wrong with this. Keyboard and mouse are inferior input devices in some genres. Gamepads are inferior in others. Some times a steering wheel is the only suitable device for example. If you weren't such a fanboy who can't even use an image board correctly you might know this.
07a419 No.16028978
>>16028952
>Nintendo did a shit load worse than MS did
They did a lot of kike tier shit but nothing as bad as Microshaft.
Most of the trends you see today on modern consoles were all thanks to them.
>Literally nothing wrong with this
Plenty of wrong when you're making a game for computers, especially ones with a First person camera
> If you weren't such a fanboy who can't even use an image board correctly you might know this.
If you actually read the context of my post instead of being a pretentious asshat on an imageboard maybe you would understand said context.
Microshaft paid PC developers to develop for their console and the games suffered due to it.
2cb857 No.16029028
>>16028978
>posting varg
Opinion discarded. Into the trash you go.
819002 No.16029073
>>16029028
>UGH, LIKE, I CAN'T EVEN WITH YOU. LITERALLY BLOCKED.
bccb3b No.16029235
>>16028804
the playstation never happened wake up sheeple
b95ee0 No.16029243
Damnit, I missed the deleted post at the beginning. What was it?
4a0cca No.16029367
>>16027163
>Gamebryo
Gamebryo the rendering middleware. You really shouldn't conflate it with the engine that ZeniMax made on top of that rendering middleware like that.
30898f No.16029485
>>16027349
David Cage stories always have a decent premise that completely fall apart and jump the shark quickly after.
1767aa No.16029670
>>16029028
True Satanic Black Metal are bands such as Darkthrone, Aryan Satankampf, Graveland, the Gestapo 666, Satanic Warmaster, Beherit and Impaled Nazarene. You can listen to Metallica if you want, but you do not understand anything about the real Hitleric Nazi Black Metal. You are just a poser and you can fuck off the whole scene. Black Metal is real music, not intended for animals like you, but the real Satanic Misanthropists who do not care about people like you dampers.
Black Metal is music for the elite and you do not understand it. None of you understand the real Satanism. You ridiculous little kids. Our worldview is based on Wotanic Hitlerism, on a personal level satanic individualism, collective level Hitleric Fascism. Without an understanding of theoretical occultism, it is useless to dream of understanding the Wotanic worldview. None of you can understand Wotanism, for you are all intellectually earthworms. You can not reach the elite level of Satanism, so why even dream about it. Satanism and Black Metal are for the elite. For real misanthropists.
335d8d No.16029677
>>16026973
Stop lying to yourself. It was never a good game. It didn't have any chance.
Just stop.
Thanks.
482a8f No.16029753
>>16026973
><no npcs
The other players are the NPCs
28a5bf No.16029990
>>16026973
>coop fallout game
>good
We already had a coop fallout game
5a022d No.16030004
325097 No.16030054
>>16026973
>Fallout 76 had potential
At what?
21e007 No.16030117
>F76
>Potential
You are a great comedian, OP, absolute joker.
411c9e No.16030157
>>16030054
At being the biggest failure of 2018.
180adf No.16032816
>>16027381
>>16027273
Literally two seconds on wikipedia even would have told you that the game was intended to be a multiplat from the start and had the levels chopped into tiny chunks and the menus dumbed down specifically to accommodate the limitations of the xbox. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex:_Invisible_War#Development
afe0a9 No.16038035
>>16038013
What is with the schizo mods today?
b53616 No.16038063
>>16026973
>Fans complain about being forced to slog through an uninspiring story.
>Fans want to explore and gather things
>Fans want multiplayer
<Make a game with minimal to no story
<Make a game based on pure exploration and gathering things
<Make it multiplayer
Honestly, what did you all expect?
f3e941 No.16038075
>>16027080
Jesus Christ, reminds me of all the bullshit that we went through with that infinitynext and that faggot josh. HW really should've BTFOed that lolcow sooner.
06ffe5 No.16038077
>>16026973
Should've made it like Far Cry 5, not Ark:Survival.
f68470 No.16038770
>>16026983
>any Fallout
>potential to be good
b75783 No.16038787
>>16038063
It's almost like the fans of Bethesda's fallout installments aren't actual fallout fans.
8e56ec No.16038801
>>16027547
luckily the original is good tier