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>>16022714

Your shopkeeper has lower negotiation skill than you.

>>16022714

I've never heard of this game but I'm interested.

>>16022748

In that case, equation between selling items in shops and by yourself is just different.

>>16022753

Freeware grindy jrpg.

Unfortunately OP forgot to give links to wiki for this.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:29910

>>16022753

A very fun and deep Japanese roguelike. This series of videos is what helped me get into the game.

>>16022775

>>16022798

Thanks, gonna check it out.

>>16022810

It's funny I was literally just watching one of this guy's videos about the game.

>>16022826

>>16022753

What's going on my fellow kids?

>>16022852

Your English is terrible.

>>16022714

This is the one stop shop for downloading the game and the current plus version.

https://bloodyshade.no-ip.org:42333/ElonaCustom/

Also there are is mod to plus that add shit called custom G. Gets rid of pissing and all that other gay shit.

>>16022873

You need to install custom before custom g right?

>>16022856

*you're

>>16022873

Careful with Custom G, it breaks your save's compatibility with any other version and isn't always up to date.

How do I actually get this shit to work on my pc

It looks like it wouldn’t need anything special but last time I tried it didn’t run on my Vista machine.

>see job board quest for "Clean up mischief"

Is this new? What do you even do in it?

>>16023091

I see. It's cool they're adding more job board quests, there are really only a handful and they can get repetitive after a while.

>>16023081

Not really that hard in this case, platinum is the most annoying thing in the original and the en hack allows you to change the multiplier for them. Was refreshing to remember all the ways to break the game that plus removed. Worst thing is that beyond the Void, grinding blacksmithing to fuse artifacts, and populating the player town the dungeon deed gives you, there is nothing to do after beating Zerome, no Act 2 or 3 Ano fanfiction.

>>16022920

I actually remember making those first two posts, it's been a while.

man it's been forever since I played this game

A few protips:

By dropping bottles of water on an altar of your god and praying, you will get blessed bottles of water. These can be used to bless other items.

If the puppy for the puppy cave quest dies, it will respawn after a couple of days.

Use preach to awaken sleeping NPCs.

Give your little girl the cooking skill and try to go to sleep at either 9 or 10 in the evening. Waking up between 4 to 9 in the morning your little girl will make you breakfast.

Carry with you a way to sleep wherever you go, the best alternative is a paperwork happy bed, dipped in fireproof and acid proof liquid.

>>16026398

> it will respawn after a couple of days.

What? I thought you just went up a floor and back down to reset

>>16022920

That chart forgets to add how your cookware affects food tier. A barbecue set is the only one who can make tier 9 food, a food maker and food processor can make up to tier 8 food, while a portable cooking tool can make up to tier 5 food to name a few.

>>16026410

Oh yeah, that's right.

>>16026398

"Breakfast" isn't bad if you can get it easily, but it's not worth going to too much trouble for. >>16022920 explains one of the best and most reliable ways to raise potentials. Cook shit, make picnic baskets. The hard part is just acquiring each type of food.

>>16022753

>>16026682

SsethTzeentach this guy is my hero

>>16024719

Yep, a rival met in the arena, playing cat girl tag for steamed buns, blessing food, 2 new gods, vore, letting pets go adventuring, no potential on most spells, lots of features and little changes that are nice. It's worth a playthrough, but people spoiled on Elona+ extra content and quests might find it lacking. Great for people who've exhausted all that stuff though.

>>16026748

Doesn't he have a new video due out soon?

>>16027540

>What version is the game currently in?

1.86

Just remember to get Custom and Custom-G too, unless you want more tedious gameplay mechanics that nobody asked for and nerfs from ass.

Alright. I have my mage I was working on but I might shelf her again. What do I do when I reach south Tyris? Besides go into a dungeon thinking I am hot shit and get nuked.

>>16028603

>What do I do when I reach south Tyris?

Go back to North Border and after that go to Melugas(town in centre of map).

>>16028603

sell your body

>have little girl farm

>enjoy delicious little girl eggs, milk, and cheese

>celebrations I have roast little girl

>>16030977

>>16030977

I know he signs his own certificate, he just hosts all the builds. I think its mostly for him but just gives access to it. I"ve used it but I'm just some guy on the internet. If you want you can look in the elona forums and find everything you would in that link.

>>16031332

Just use Custom-G and get rid of the shitty useless thirst mechanic

>>16031348

>paperwork food processor

I feel like a fucking retard for not thinking of doing this myself

What the fuck I didn't know lewd games were this good

>>16031348

Where do I obtain one? Also, I forgot to mention I'm new to this game.

>>16031392

Vendors, dungeons. You'll definitely find one eventually. Although, like I said, you really should use Custom G. It gets rid of thirst and rolls back a bunch of shitty nerfs to abilities so that they are just as fun as they're supposed to be.

>>16031406

I will definitely try it. Thank you, anon.

>>16031413

I should mention, since you're new to the game, that Custom G needs to be installed over custom, and that you should launch the game using Custom G's .exe

Custom: https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:29851

Custom G: https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:29336

>>16031420

>added Elona Custom

>added Custom-G

>followed compile guide

>every time I try to load my save I get an error message of random characters and then the game stops working

What did I do wrong?

>>16031421

Jesus Christ, she could palm a basketball with those meaty paws.

>>16031539

I'm not quite sure, are you using the right version of elona+ to start with? I started my character on Custom G so I'm not sure how well saves from "vanilla" work with it.

>>16031539

>What did I do wrong?

This:

>followed compile guide

>>16031588

It's all version 1.86, I even tried generating a new character to see if that works. No luck though.

>>16031601

Yeah this anon's right

>>16031599

I missed this in your post, no need to compile anything, just copypaste custom and custom 6 over elona+

>>16031611

>custom 6

I meant G. Holy shit what's wrong with me

>>16031539

>>16031564

>>16031588

>>16031599

>>16031611

So as it turns out, I'm retarded. I forgot to apply compatibility mode before running the game. Everything works now, thanks anons.

>>16032242

If you can, avoid selling artifacts, or named items, whatever they're called, especially if it's an item that you typically use, like a certain weapon or an armor with DV/PV whichever you prefer. I believe there's a recipe for the pot for fusion where you can combine them into a new item. I've read from other anons in Elona threads before that this is a good way to try getting a living weapon, since the game generates a new named item when you fuse them together so there's a small chance one of them will be living.

>>16032099

>tfw no Elona game but with little brothers instead

>>16032263

>forgetting to untick spoiler images

this just isn't my fucking day

>>16032263

I'm just saying that between shotacon and lolicon I know where I stand

>>16032325

>fuck little sisters

>>16032325

Well lucky for you you can have one now, unfortunately it doesn't seem to have a page on the wiki yet, so I don't know if it's even all that good of a pet. Hell, the little sisters aren't even that great, honestly, you need to evolve them into either a yandere or a catgirl to make them notable in any way.

How do you make serious money in the current version of the game? In earlier versions of the game, you could craft a ton of panties and leave them at your shop to literally make millions. Now that equipment crafting has been removed, how do you make money? On a sidenote, does custom G have equipment crafting?

>>16032353

I do just fine with money by selling equipment from random dungeons in my shop. It sucks, though, I never played one of the versions where you were able to craft pantsu.

Why is it that whenever a dev adds a shit system that no one likes Thirst there's absolutely zero chance of them ever removing it and in fact they're more likely to just double down on stupid shit until the game dies? Or at least their version of it

>>16032377

i like thirst

gives me reason to carry water and alchol

>>16031814

>Got the best cooking tool.

Yes, it's good.

>>16032377

Either it's autism or Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup syndrome.

>>16031887

Autopickup is hardest thing to leave behind. Not having to check scrolls, rods, or potions and just run over them, hoovering up fairy puked seeds, and blindly grabbing all miracle and up equipment is too nice.

>>16032785

Do you know of any way to improve the dicerolls for damage on living weapons, or other unique weapons for that matter? I feel like this is the only living weapon I'm gonna find since my luck in finding them has so shit up until now. 10d4 on a machinegun is just so underwhelming, even though it's somewhat decent at the low level that I'm at. Maybe a scroll of name change will do? I might try savescumming a name change scroll and see if that does the trick

>>16032812

Well, after trying, scrolls of name don't seem to do the trick, for anyone interested.

>>16032829

Nah, gotta use material kits. I couldn't quite remember if material affected dicerolls though, thanks anon.

>>16032812

You will want to buy a diamond material kit.

>>16032848

Yeah, hopefully I'll be able to pick one up at the souveneir vendor. I'm going to settle for the Adamantium kit I can get from the minotaur quest until then.

Is it viable to go through this game with no companions?

>>16033921

>dicks

>body pleasure

>predator

Its the pudit all over again.

>>16033827

Yes, at least for entire first act.

>>16033827

It'd be a handicap but I'm sure you could do it. Isn't there a feat that buffs you for not having any pets, or am I remembering wrong?

>>16034553

It exists but I remember it being shit

>>16034934

Apparently, it's related to specific math formula for selling items in player owned shops.

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Shop_%28Deed_Building%29

>>16033979

dude whatever was funny, this one isn't eliciting a giggle

After a bit of experimenting, I figured out that the only thing that is worth selling in your own shop is equipment. Food, scrolls, potions, monster remains, ect. I can currently sell for over 50% of the buying price at this point.

Can I import a save file from Elona+ to Custom G?

>>16035266

Even if you get a replacement, I can't imagine it being any less "blurry". The resolution/size of the faces has to be exactly the same for it to work

>>16034555

+20% speed isn't "shit". It doesn't make up for having no pets, but if you are playing that way anyway it's the single largest bonus you can get.

>>16026564

>p2. dual wield and two handed bonus on a shield lol

Just get more arms bitch

>>16036888

Nice.

>>16036850

Is there anything I could do to make up for not having companions?

>>16038038

Spam AoE spells and special skills as long you can.

>>16038429

It's okay, even if you got a decent piece of late game armor it'd still be wasted. Unless you got seven league boots or something.

>>16038429

Should've asked the thread first, buddy. Wishes are tough to come by; luckily though you didn't really miss out on anything too game-changing. Seven League boots or a Vindale Cloak are good wishes. An anon in the thread wished for a barbecue set, which is also a good wish since they're the best cooking tool and hard to come by. Look up wishes on the wiki so that you know what you're wishing for next time. Also, if you're using custom and don't want your pets randomly drinking out of wells and getting impregnated by xenomorphs, you can talk to them and tell them not to use things on the ground.

>>16038462

Very helpful advice, thanks anon.

I'm having trouble getting Elona G installed, everytime I try to compile it nothing happens aside from some error message.

>>16038887

>compile it

Why do people keep trying to do this? Just paste the mod into your elona+ custom install and overwrite

>>16038897

Because faggot which wrote Custom-G mod wrote some stupid shit that only matters for people who compiled Elona+ source themselves and thought that it was default for everyone.

>>16038897

Yeah I think I'm still fucking it up, I feel pretty retarded.

>>16038958

>>16038897

Nevermind, I got it working. What happened was instead of downloading elona custom in the sequences I downloaded the bog standard elona instead by accident.

>>16038958

1. Do your all .exe files belong to the same version?

2. Most recent is 1.86 - Only these two numbers matter

3. Do you run it as administrator and windows 7 compatibility mode?

>>16038462

bbq set isn't that hard to get, just use several rods of teleportation in a party time quest to clear out guests in an area around one (if you can't just slaughter them), then make several walls with a rod or spell of wall creation to block sight, and pickpocket it

>>16041919

Why not wish for stats

>>16041919

Use it to summon Gods to your house or something

Does anybody know what property transfer deeds do? They must be new, I've never seen them before

>>16043918

I read in the update log that it's now possible to move buildings after having put them down, it's probably for that.

>>16043979

Ah. That's convenient.

>>16042726

I have 3 little girls (bought 2 more from the town with whores).. they are great.

>>16043979

What are good locations for buildings?

>>16045120

Wherever you want them to be, dude. I put my farm near Yowyn so I could have a handy supply of harvest time quests and sprawled from there.

>>16045120

Two good options I think. One you can stick them all right next to Palmia. That gives you a centralized base right next to the town you probably need to visit most often, not to mention the Embassy

Second, you can try to put them closer to the South Tyris boarder. Maybe next to Derphy (especially if you have an outlaw character) or maybe near the Doujyo if that's something you use often.

The third possibility is to put them near Noyel and/or Garok's Workshop. The problem with this is you end up teleporting into the middle of the snow region. Good if you want to go to one of those locations, bad if you want to go literally anywhere else.

Regardless of where you put your house, it makes sense to keep most or all of your other buildings right next to it, ideally so that you never have to walk over a non-owned square when visiting your property and the nearby town(s)

>>16032833

Craft repair kits can also potentially improve dice rolls

What's a good music pack that's not outdated?

>>16045120

>What are good locations for buildings?

I settled near Lumiest for the Mages Guild.

Placing your other buildings near your house is also great if you can consistently cast Recall since your house is one of the teleport points.

>>16045531

>What's a good music pack

Just put your own favorite music.

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Custom_music

I was trying to work out the damage difference of two weapons (a machine gun and a shotgun), is the math correct? (The stats were taken from the character sheet.)

10d8+41 = (10 to 80)+41 = 51 to 121

4d12+47 = (4 to 48)+47 = 51 to 95

>>16046707

Yes, but you forgot to add multiplier to damage from your weapon skill to that.

>x1.0+ or whatever that is for you

>>16046728

The multiplier was the same for both guns, so I decided not to add it in this case.

Is it viable to run around without pets eventually?

>>16046954

Only if you >>16038082

>>16049810

You have to fuck her and make your own little girl

>>16050281

it's additonal i would assume, otherwise why have levels of rank for that attribute?

go smack some hoes with it or something

game seems interesting i will check it out, but knowing these type of games i am going to suck ass at it.

>>16045120

You can reach the western half of North Tyris using return to Lesimas and then escape. Building near Noyel you can buy Christmas trees, use return to get almost to Port Kapul and sell them, buy fish seek them in Yowyn, do harvest time quest and buy… uh, toys? and return home to sell them and pick some crops.

>>16050950

I always waste shitloads of time doing nothing in games like these. Getting all the freedom to do whatever from the start of the game is nice, but then I end up not knowing what to do with said freedom.

>>16051325

same, also real life has this problem

Is there any way to search for an item? Either in the log or in the world itself? Suddenly my barbecue set is gone, which was both acid and fireproof, and I didn't die.

>>16053953

Here you go.

>>16039677

Oh yeah. How should I outfit pets? Just biggest PV value on them and let them go nuts?

>>16050281

After experimenting with multiple weapons that "deal (type) damage", I think I've figured it out enough to make estimates. For damage, each # represents a 10, so the ### in the picture is 30-39 damage. Or at least, damage on average, since it sometimes hits slightly above and below. But this seems consistent, since #### tends to hit in the mid 40's, and single # has been hitting, on average, below 10.

This damage looks like it doesn't get affected by your damage multiplier, so the special damage type seems more effective on one-handed weapons or pets with weak attacks.

>>16054511

>u will never ride ur wife into combat

>>16055325

>can't even be arsed to pirate a voice changer

No thanks.

>>16055325

This is a surprising amount of effort for someone getting zero views on most of his videos. Still not watching this shit though. If you want to get people to watch your let's play series on jewtube elona, or any roguelike for that matter, is just about the most boring choice of game you could make.

>>16022714

shit how do I learn spells

>>16057231

git gud

>>16057306

git gud motherfucker

>>16057310

>>16057334

seriously though, I forgot since last time I played do we learn spells by reading spellbooks or something else?

>>16057334

it's easy enough to get potions of cure corruption from the casino even if you mutate. Even then most mutations don't start getting horrendously bad until ages later.

>>16057337

Yes. Read them in your home for extra security.

>>16057344

>Yes. Read them in your home for extra security.

you fucking fag

>>16057346

If you got the time to put into it it's got that satisfying long term acheivement kind of fun going from a scrub that dies to rabbits to wizard that grows magic staffs

>>16057346

>I want someone else to blame if I waste my time on a game.

It's not ADOM, nor is it stone soup if you're wondering.

>>16057346

The gameplay is pretty much exactly what you expect from a (real) roguelike. Step based combat with a ridiculous number of options, most of which are completely useless.

>>16057385

It's more of a grindan game. There are ALWAYS "challenging" encounters unless you put hundreds to thousands of hours maxing out everything. Most of the harder stuff is totally optional, but it exsts

>>16057224

>>16057337

alright yeah it was books, I just couldn't remember

>>16057385

There is an endless dungeon that gets progressively harder with bosses every 5 floors.

>>16057385

after 100 hours played you are just a basic bitch anyways

If you don't fuck your plane wife everyday then you are a disgrace

>>16057231

When the winds come you have to get to shelter or you'll die

>>16057344

You sure you can cure non-ether mutations with potions of cure corruption?

>>16058913

no, only ether disease mutations

cute mutation is a different potion

How do you preach again? I have 12 faith but the option doesn't appear

This fucking game is harder to get into than Dwarf Fortress.

>>16059561

You are using Shift+w and not pressing a?

>>16059651

>Dwarf Fortress

>Hard to get into

Only if you're a cum guzzling redditor

Does anyone have any experience with a Valkyrie? She apparently has the cheer skill, but I don't know if she uses it intelligently, or if she randomly spams it instead of acting. I use cheer and have all of the charisma, so I'm afraid she'll randomly skip turns to overwrite my cheer with a worse cheer. I don't want to evolve her if it's going to make her worse.

>>16059809

Use Elona+ Custom or Custom G mod. You can set custom ai and have 100% cheer uptime.

>>16059716

>Only if you really don't want to learn how to use DF UI

FTFY

>>16059651

It's not really that hard to get into, though it took me abandoning about 4 or 5 really low-level characters before it really started to click. When you first start out just focus on doing notice board quests and learning every skill you don't start with. After that everything really opens up and you can decide what your goal is from there. I wouldn't know how much harder this is to get into than dorf fort, I've never played it

Tried fighting Zeome at level 38 with the E+ Custom difficulty tweak on and holy shit, that is one mean mother hubbard. Only my juere swordsman has enough raw HP to survive one of his chaos blasts, and that's with #### resist. Even without buffs up Zeome only takes about 90 damage from rods (my highest skill) of any element so those are out of the question. A melee gauge attack takes about a quarter of his health but he heals when he gets low. If I want to beat him I guess I'd have to get more resists for my swordsman and grind his CON a bit so he can participate and do damage, and bring rods of silence because I have high magic device so even if it only lasts 5 or so turns it may be enough to kill him before he can heal.

Also tree sparrows are able to decapitate? That's pretty fucking nuts that a level 40 enemy can instakill unconditionally when all the death word enemies give you some warning and a chance to stop it.

t. just died to one

>>16059809

In my experience allies with the cheer skill use it less often than you'd like them to, not more

>>16061388

you probably lost a handful of items

>>16061401

Probably. I was more worried about losing my cargo, though.

Also, since dungeon diving hasn't been too lucrative yet and traders don't seem to be carrying interesting gear, where should I look for better equipment?

>>16061421

have you met with traders on the roads?

>>16061483

Once or twice. They ask a shitload of gold for their wares though.

>Nether hound room

Oh man, I love feeling like hot shit and opening a breathhound room.

>>16061498

a lot of their shit is high level

>>16061207

>Also tree sparrows are able to decapitate?

Yes, they do.

>>16061512

OH BOY AND NOW THE CONTIENTS HAVE RESET.

Where can I get another coolerbox? The dwarves?

>>16061512

>room full of kamikaze yeeks

>alt-tab for a while as they all blow up

>>16061531

>Where can I get another coolerbox?

By doing the little sister sidequest and selecting it as a reward when you turn in enough sisters.

>>16061512

At least you didn't opened cluster bomb rocks room yet.

>>16061421

Try to successfully find locations in treasure maps.

>>16061539

>little sister quest

Aw fuck me really? There is no other way?

>>16061546

Nope, not unless you cheat. I've noticed that food in 4th dimensional storage never rots if you can consistently get mirrors. They're heavy as shit though.

>>16061572

It was on my mage faggot so probably not the best idea. Whats 4th Dimensional storage?

>>16061597

It's like a storage that's tied to your character instead of the item. Using a mirror accesses that storage. Kinda like the piggy bank in Terraria. There's a spell for it too.

>>16061609

Oh wait, I think I've seen that in the craft list but never really knew what it was for. Well fuck me maybe I'll use that.

>>16061207

Spamming slow/haste/silence rods makes a lot of boss fights very easy , I tell another poster after getting fucked by Doggod while trying it and losing my happy bed because that dungeon's floors are rerandomized like the puppy cave

>>16061421

Trading with adventurers is a good way early on. Save up casino chips until you get a lucky day and then play blackjack at any slot machine or dart board for cure corruption potions, they trade for a lot.

>>16062088

I do but I can't remember where I left them. It hasn't mattered much because my dude keeps taking naps every time I set foot on the overworld.

Dunno, this is the first time I've played this far so I'm just having fun with it.

>>16022714

>"oh look another shitty Harvest Moon clo-"

>screenshots are all spreadsheets

I may actually be interested in this.

>>16062196

It's more of a sandbox rpg/roguelike. There's boatloads of weird and obscure things you can do, like getting rich off of buying and selling loli sex slaves, trying to survive as a snail who wants to become the best musician in the world, or getting strong enough to kill literal gods or the gods inside the gods.

I'm trying to get a deed of shop to get a steady source of gold before I have to pay >taxes, would putting my little girl in there as shopkeep be a good idea for now?

>>16063255

how many actions it takes to pick pocket something depends on its weight, and each action you have a chance to be detected

find one made of spirit cloth or another lightweight material

>>16063503

I used a rod of dominate on a thief guild member. There are thief girls there if you want to play strictly harem.

>>16063255

You are not clearing a large enough area of guests, they can hear you if your Pickpocket skill is low enough that you keep making loud noises. You can train Pickpocket up a bit by stealing dead trees in the wilderness areas of cleared hunting quests.

Anybody have any idea what a bio battery does? I thought it was just furniture but when I placed it in my home I didn't get a house rank output. Does it have some use or is it just junk?

>>16063803

Nevermind this, I found it in the changelogs

>Having it in the inventory will prevent changes to the holder's weight and height.

I guess now you can eat a wonderland soup or puke out an alien baby without having to worry about losing weight, but I'm not entirely sure whether weight or height even effect anything in the first place.

>>16063503

Better to go with a dedicated shopkeeper from the start, I think. They improve pretty slowly.

>>16063726

I never managed to get this to work since I usually couldn't carry enough to steal it and even when I did I'd usually just fail anyway.

>>16065011

You need twice the weight of the tree in strength, naked trees in snow areas are the easiest if your strength is low. Monsters will still catch you and cause a karma loss, which is why the cleared areas of hunting quests or bandit attacks are safest.

>>16063544

Getting into the thief guild sounds like a pain though. Damn it.

>>16064984

I see.

Is there a way to get custom AI characters in Elona+ Custom to use rods like the default AI? I want to put a custom AI on my alchemist pet, but I also want to have her keep being useful.

>>16067302

I never messed around with it, I thought they still just did their thing.

>>16070920

they do unless your using elona+ custom, custom lets you set pet rules like

>if below 30% health heal

>stay 3 paces away from enemy

And other shit like that, i personally use elona+ custom g, which is just custom with all the dumb shit like thirst removed

When will you be able to be a blacksmith?

>>16022880

"G" is Unofficial?

>>16073253

Yes.

>>16073231

Never ever, unless Ano stop putting shit that nobody asked for and nerfing everything fun/broken.

>>16073287

No one ever tried to make a mod for that?

>>16073231

Omake Overhaul has some limited blacksmith, very very grindy though.

>>16073231

Version 1.71 I think had crafting. You could make stuff like pope robes and panties from the materials gathered in dungeons.

>>16073542

Had? Are you saying that shit's been removed completely now?

>>16067032

use teleport other to move the guard and just walk right in, then use incognito and you have until the leader gets to you to cast dominate and get out

he's nowhere near as dangerous as the magic guild leader

>>16073549

Yes, you used to be able to craft shit like that, now you can't.

>>16073764

I am sure that it was only affecting panties.

>>16073940

Also affects spears, robes, probably other things.

>>16073287

>Yes.

What executable do I run with now?

>>16074724

ElonaCG.

>>16074220

Wrong.

You only can't craft weapons in Elona+.

>>16074796

Same as CU, right?

>>16074796

you should probably post a pic of the menu you use to prove it

>>16074859

some of those characters are clearly japanese like ¥

>>16074859

also it looks like a bunch of border dimensions

>>16074891

good on ya lad

>>16074891

CustomG save us

>>16055270

Iirc, extra damage from weapons such as magic damage scales off the physical hit. Which makes it optimal to have as many different elemental damages as you can.

Anyone plays on linux here? There has to be some

My sound never works, and I've searched

>>16074859

Click on config.txt and change number in serverList to "1".

It should disappear by doing this.

>>16074891

Ok.

That was way worse than I thought.

>>16075846

>Click on config.txt and change number in serverList to "1".

>

>It should disappear by doing this.

Nope. Still happens.

Damn it, I failed so many quests dying that I got -42 karma. Couldn't even finish this one quest to Noyel without getting killed by a guard. Now what the fuck am I supposed to do?

>>16076005

Derphy.

>>16076022

What about it?

>>16076005

>Now what the fuck am I supposed to do?

git gud

>>16076027

No guards in Derphy to kill you. Build up karma there by completing quests or some shit.

>>16074891

What are they going to do next? Cash 4 gold? 1$ = 1'000'000 gold?

>>16076005

Derphy mission board and run some dungeons, burying adventurers in very effective.

>>16076005

>>16076027

Maybe I should give up my solo life after all..

>>16076573

pets > no pets.

>>16076608

I've only ever evolved my little girl into a valkyrie. I'm not entirely sure a witch is worth it, rain of sanity seems like a fairly worthless special action and the spell is just an upgraded magic dart. The exile god pet seems like a much more useful spellcasting pet.

>>16076637

I found a butler's diary in the last dungeon I went in, I'm wondering if it'd be a good ranged pet. With its healing spells it seems like it'd be a much better alternative to the shitty android despite its slightly lower speed. Combine it with a defender and you'd have two healing pets both casting healing rain.

>>16076911

Strange/Erratic piano piece with sudden speed ups and speed downs.

>>16075940

Delete everything from server.txt too.

>>16076911

>happymarch.mid

I don't like this one too much either.

>>16076637

Fire dragon is really good, Megid Flame is highly useful.

Haven't played this for a while…

Time to get back into it.

I can never stay away from Elona too long.

>>16077503

Your "code" makes the character immediately try to range attack only if the enemy is 4 or more squares away, then if it can't do that, cures itself, then if it can't do that , it does nothing. you never told it to move or try using melee attacks, so it never will.

What you need is to set up movement first, then actions, and always end with the attacks

Like:

>if distance < 4, move away

>if distance > X, move closer (X being the furthest distance it can attack from)

>then the HP thing

>then the attack(otherwise it will always attack before having a chance to check for its HP)

Can anyone share their monster girl sprite for 1.86? I cant play the game without it.

>>16077625

Git gud and find some actual monster girls in-game, there's plenty.

>>16077503

this >>16077564

priority order

>>16076602

>>16076594

Should I just restart my character and pick non garbage traits? I was trying to do solo wizard and didn't really get very far.

>>16078595

>solo wizard

son you retarded

although im currently soloing a golem

shits OP except for speedy fucks

>>16078595

nah as long as you can kill low level mobs there is still hope.

Following the instructions in the following post is still viable but know that enemies will interrupt you when you try to pick up crops so you have to clear them before you can get crops. You can also check their weight before trying to pick them up with [CTRL]+[CAPITAL X]

>>16061250

Also post your weapon skills list, whatever shit ass weapon skill you have is still viable.

>>16078631

So I imagine I should start using pets then, huh?

And yeah doing harvesting quests was impossible.

>>16046684

>>16049939

>>16053953

the artist who makes these has perhaps the perfect human soul. not to be mistaken for innocent or pure, just perfect none the less

>>16078679

>doing harvesting quests was impossible

Why?

Tell me at what level you fucked up?

>>16078679

Make sure you have the weight lifting and gardening skill. You can keep doing them to gain XP until you succeed because there is no penalty for failure except losing fame which is actually good since high fame means harder monsters. You can do escort and deli very quests instead but they make sure you only take the ones that give you way too much time. Avoid noyul since the snow slows you down too much usually. Avoid the 'escort my girlfriend' quests since they are too hard. The doctor and regular escorts are good. Ecologist quests are actually delivery quests and easy.

Even if you are playing an absolutely abysmal character you can just travel town to town looking for a quest that asks for [trash items] like broken pots and dead fish which you can find in any random tile outside town. Then use that plat to buy the weight lifting and gardening skills. It's easy to survive that way the only annoying thing is the thirst mechanic but you can satisfy it by buying drinks at bar/tavern/pub or drinking unidentified potions from the puppy cave (highly recommended if you are a cheap ass like me. What? Are you a coward?)

>>16078879

>"Make sure you have the weight lifting and gardening skill."

>trying to solo without a pet

>can't even get quests done

>make sure to do the things you're having such trouble friend

>>16078982

The advice that anon gave was quite helpful.

Guys, thoughts on warmage? I played melee once but it wasn't very fun because my pets killed everything before I could do jackshit.

>>16079539

Melee is pretty boring. Magic missile has a 100 percent hit chance and spells can be bound to the number keys, like [1]. Gunner/archer is fun as well.

>>16078982

Escort and Delivery quests don't involve combat in any way whatsoever. You can do them solo just fine. Same thing with "I want it!" provided you have things to trade, Pickpocket or can buy the items. I usually check the board for items sold at the general store (Mana Crystal, etc), and if there's a quest for those, I buy the item, get the quest and immidiatly deliver. It pays more than what the item costs and gives PP too.

After you've got a few PP you should get Gardening because it's a skill that pays itself off.

You'll likely fail the first few quests but you're training the skill and eventually you won't fail anymore. You can also Train with it, spending some extra PP to level it faster.

After that, you can do these quests reliably and get good money and PP from them to make up the cost of training it and funding more skills.

Cooking should be next since food is the best way to raise stats and it's good to start practicing it early.

If you want to be more combat focused, keep doing Hunter requests that are Green since those will be easier and train your combat skills. Maybe hit the Puppy Cave and keep clearing the first room until you can one-shot everything.

Point is, there's plenty of quests that are pretty much free PP and Gardening, when leveled, adds another one to the list.

>>16079539

Your problem was not Riding and using Fire Breath.

One of the best runs I've tried was being a Dragon Knight, toasting my enemies left and right, cooking their bodies afterwards.

My horse was equipped with a Ballista so it was like driving a tank around and was made even better when he learned to spit fire like I did whenever anyway was close enough. Didn't got to the point where I was actually riding Dragons, but I'm planning to get there.

Takes some investment since you need the right perks and Control Magic to pull it off reliably but afterwards it's never stopping infernos.

It's even better with Natural Leader since you can play Commander instead with a legion of ranged pets. Just cast Cheer to have them murder everything in range and stand between your pets and your enemies to attack or flame anything that gets close.

It did raise some questions however about cooking: does Fire Breath use and train Cooking? does the result depend on that roll? What's the quality being used since I'm not using an implement? I'd imagine it's 0 so I wonder how much cooking I'd need to cook tier 9 food simply from breathing fire on fruit and corpses.

>>16079564

It's a shame that you can't swap equipment around like that since using different guns for different ranges based on your enemy would be great.

It's also disappointing that you can't dual-wield pistols or that equipping firearms in hand slots levels up Blunt when you attack in melee with them.

I guess it makes sense since you're pistol-whipping them, but it's still a shame that you can't wield a sniper rifle for long range and dual wield shotguns\pistols for close range fights.

>>16079721

it mentions what that does somewhere on the wiki forums, iirc it does something to the targeting when your original target dies.

>>16079721

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4

Here it is, what it does is keep the target for both the logic gate and the action. otherwise the action targets the pet's current target

this is especially important for healing characters, you don't want your pet healing it's current target after all.

>>16079721

You have some faulty logic there, you should use Move(Forward) when the distance is bigger than 6 and shoot when it's lesser or equal than 6.

Yours works but anyone at 10 or more will be ignored by your pet (which likely works, but still)

Also keep in mind that you have it configured so it shoots at range 3, 4 and 5. Is that the appropriate range for your weapon?

"Preserve entity as target" means that whatever entity is being tested in the condition will be used as the target, instead of the pet target.

This is usefull for Healing Touch, for instance, so the pet heals itself or you instead of an oponent. Since Healing Rain is self cast and Ranged Attacks are being tested against the same target, it does not matter for you.

Although, it got me curious… What if we test "Player Distance" for an Attack with "Preserve Entity"?

Could we potentially make the Pet attack us? And train armor\dodge while the pet trains it's skills?

>>16079858

you probably could, but that might make all your other pets attack it.

that's an interesting idea, let's try it.

Might also be a good way to train magic control

>>16079565

did you read his circumstances though?

>>16080600

The solo trait wasn't the greatest idea anyway. Pets are just too valuable

>>16080600

The guy doesn't even understand his circumstances because he doesn't know enough about the game, they gave advice based on that.

>>16081066

Pets are not necessary at all, get far enough in and they'll be far weaker than you.

>>16081190

>Pets are not necessary at all, get far enough in and they'll be far weaker than you.

Not necessarily. On the one hand you are absolutely correct they are NOT necessary. On the other if you raise the right pets and do so properly, they WILL be stronger than you no matter what. Unless there are some hard caps for pet stats I'm not aware of?

>>16081066

>>16081190

Yeah that's right, he doesn't understand his circumstances but he doesn't have a pet and he cant fight for shit right now except maybe low level mobs, so any advice not strictly on getting out of his hole first thing is shit advice.

>>16078679

I've been forgetting to mention, and apparently nobody else thought to mention, that if you survive long enough to the turn of the month some skill tickets will appear in a box in the starting cave which you can trade for skills.

Weight Lifting and Gardening and a weapon skill if you don't have one should be your highest priority so that you can do harvest quests easier and then fight off enemies if you need to, hit chance or enough magic skill to hit bats would be important so they don't interrupt your harvesting and don't forget to look at the weight of the crop before you try to harvest it, dont harvest anything under 10 pounds.

>>16082404

Skill tickets are best used after training a new skill costs 15 plat, it's kind of a waste to use them when they cost 2

Okay, am making a Paladin kind of character.

Two handed or 1 hand+shield?

>>16079859

Okay, I've tried this and it kinda works.

As in, pets won't actually start killing you the second their tactics tell them to, it's safe to start this in town and walk around.

But the second combat starts, their "tactics" kick in and they'll try to murder you as well as your enemies.

Basically, the tactics you setup for Pets only work when there's an enemy nearby, otherwise they default to just following you around, I suppose.

I guess someone could take advantage of this by idling in Puppy Cave and have your Pets attack you once a snail comes near. Low mobs will likely not harm your pets or you and as long as they're focused on you and you're just idling, they'll leave the enemies alive, keeping their tactics working.

Last thing I kinda forgot to test was if this actually trains your Armor\Dodge\Etc when your own Pets attack you.

>>16082404

You get those tickets with your salary based on how many level-ups you had since the last one, to a max of 9 tickets.

Or to put it simply, every time you level-up, the next salary will have a skill ticket added to it until you hit level 10.

>>16083710

Don't forget that you can use Skill tickets to train skills as well, so they remain useful even after you got all the Skills you wanted.

It's a matter of optimization since to have skills costing 15 plat, you're gonna have to buy 10 of them first for a total of 110 PP

If you're waiting for that point, you're gonna have to spend a good chunk of early game grinding PP without some important skills and when you finally get to spend those skill tickets, it's going to be on some lesser important stuff like Carpentry or Swimming.

Basically, you're trading the value of a Skill Ticket from 15 to whatever they cost at the time in exchange to get a skill faster.

Consider if you get 5 skills with PP first and then spend Skill tickets. You're only wasting 5 PP and counting down for a total of 15 wasted PP, but you only had to grind 35 PP instead of 110 PP.

>>16084067

Are you going to be the main damage dealer or using magic? Two Handed.

Are you going to be the tank and not use magic? 1hand+Shield.

It's a bit of a shame that you can't buff pets with your spells and most healing spells are just self-targeted, though.

>>16055325

Huh, some other nip commented on one of Rufina's videos, who makes extremely simple and shitty elona animations.

Just found a "juice mixer" in a dungeon. Unfortunately the wiki has no details on how it's used. What can I make with it?

>>16087682

Juice.

>>16087682

if you use it, it will show a list of things that can be juiced by it.

I don't remember whenever it's worth doing so or not

I've made this shit ages ago and should still be up to date

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h6ikqq2uit7jtUuvLYdmTL5XAzH7CzQ73xNJv_ogJzk/edit?usp=sharing

I think you need to make a copy to use the auto sorting features and whatnot.

I have a level 1 younger sister, should I put her in a ranch or level her up? Dunno what her corpse levels.

>>16087723

Nice, I've always wanted a profit to weight chart.

>>16087682

It lets you mix vegetables and fruit into Juice, as well as milk and herbs.

Juice can be drank to satiate your hunger and it also trains the relevant Attribute. You can also drink Juice even when you're Satisfied or Bloated. In other words, you can juice all the vegetables and fruit in your farm and drink them on to train your Attributes really fast.

However, there's several catches.

First of all, Juices count as the raw ingredient for training. If you cooked the same ingredient you could go about 4.5X the training value.

You also miss on herbing it, especially if you use herbs in the juicer.

Drinking when Satisfied or above may make you vomit, which makes you hungry again and may cause Anorexia.

The best use you can give this is to Juice a bunch of stuff that you're not gonna be able to cook and eat before it rots, but not everything. Then when you're exploring and ran out of regular food but you're currently hungry, drink up some juice instead.

It's basically a really good backup for when you've run out of food (especially since it doesn't rot) or for when you really have way too many vegetables and fruit.

I've also discovered when researching this that eating doesn't actually increase your potential, only herbs, potions and special trainers do. This changes everything.

>>16087723

Your last columm says "ninety item" when it should be "ninth item".

You could also finish that chart using distance between towns as well.

As in, since the distance between towns is always the same, you can make a "profit per trip" calculation, divide it by the time it takes to reach it and you'll have a "profit by step" which is probably more usefull. Snow tiles obviously have to count for more steps.

As in, taking Christmas Trees from Noyel to Port Kapul will probably net a fuckload of cash, but it also takes a long time. Trading from Lumiest to Yowin is much faster so overall it may make more cash, despite carrying less profit in every trip.

You need a comparison for that.

Other than that, excelent work pal.

>>16087797

Picnic baskets increase your potential. They're a good stopgap until you can start industrial production of blessed potions of potential. Note that you can eat them even when bloated without problems.

I just learned that pets paying for training increases their stat potential too. I probably spent five hours over this game pumping those little fuckers full of treats and none of it was necessary.

>>16087812

>until you can start industrial production of blessed potions of potential.

Is there any way to influence what materials you get when harvesting in those spots? Do the results go up with the relevant skill or your level? Because it's mostly RNG for me at this point.

>I just learned that pets paying for training increases their stat potential too.

You can use emeralds, diamonds and another gem in groups of 5 in the pot of fusion to make a large tablet of them that sells for a boatload of money.

Give one to your pets and watch them train 5-6 times just from that profit alone.

It's always a good idea to get gems from the shops for that purpose. Fund your Imouto Miltia with Diamonds!

>>16087797

>As in, since the distance between towns is always the same, you can make a "profit per trip" calculation

Now that's a neat thing I somehow didn't think of.

Gonna make that whenever I get in the mood to play Elona again

>>16087736

return her to Tenenbaum immediately

>>16087831

>Is there any way to influence what materials you get when harvesting in those spots?

I think the level of the dungeon affects it.

>you can see a target's stamina by highlighting them after pressing *

>after realizing this I also realzed that shadow step taught through custom AI costs no stamina so my swordsman can zoom around with no penalties

Kind of broken but even without it he can do just as much damage at a distance as my dedicated rangers with his high tactics and throwing skills

>>16087797

For what it's worth you can also use rotten and cursed ingredients for juice and the juice will come out normal and uncursed every time

>>16087812

Blessed potions of potential do not raise Speed and Luck. Picnic Baskets do.

>>16087812

Don't pets get 10 times the benefit from food? That's hardly a waste.

>>16087723

>>16087797

I'll test it out in a bit. By the way, how can you hire someone to tend to your farm for you?

>>16088464

>For what it's worth you can also use rotten and cursed ingredients for juice and the juice will come out normal and uncursed every time

considering how easy is to get the OP scythe of eat rotten food, i'd say it's a waste of inventory space

I think what really made me stop playing Elona was the 200 slots inventory limit

I don't want to stop to manage my inventory every fucking 10 minutes. I got the strength to carry the whole world, let me god damn

Also, managing the equipment of 7~ pets is absolute hell. Hunting for specific stat on gear is also hell (for instance, alch/carp/tail/etc sets, strength sets, or just fucking gear for the pets, etc)

>>16088483

There's no way picnic baskets raise speed potential. My speed gains are noticeably faster after drinking a hermes blood and the way I slam picnic baskets down it shouldn't make a difference.

>>16089727

Wiki says it does. You'll have to prove otherwise

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Large_picnic_basket

>When used, it raises every stat potential of the PC and all pets by the enchant value (includes speed and luck)

>>16089727

>>16089812

This is something I've always wondered since I started playing this game: why are speed and luck potentials hidden? They're basically fucking attributes that are given additional bonuses by gear, I mean shit you can't even see what your luck is. If I'm going to get a piece of gear with "Luck +3" on it, why the fuck can't I see how much luck I actually have? Hidden attribute are fucking gay.

>>16089812

Well then what the fuck

>>16089361

>200 slots inventory limit

>stop to manage my inventory every fucking 10 minutes

How the fuck do you collect trash so fast that you gotta stop every 10 minutes to fix it?

Why don't you just stop hoarding crap, only get the valuable stuff and actually use what you have in your inventory?

I mean, I once hit the limit too and noticed I was carrying an entire apothecary in my inventory. So I just dumped some PP in Throwing and Alchemy and then proceed to chuck potions around for fun and profit. Coincidentally, I also started actually reading all those "Magic Mapping" and "Detect Objects" scrolls that were already in stacks of 30 at that time.

Hoarding is rarely caused by a limit on your inventory or the game throwing too much shit at you. It's more likely that the cause is your low standards on what to get and inability to actually use what you have.

>>16089812

That's the picnic basket. Eating cooked or raw food doesn't increase potential it increases stats. I may be wrong but I think that's how it works.

>>16090927

I only pick up potions, scrolls and rods. Equipment is almost always worthless trash in most dungeons and too heavy.

>>16094948

It will get better.

Just go to Derphy, if you turned into criminal after doing this.

>>16090927

>Dude, it's just an RPG, why would you want to hoard everything you see?

You just don't understand

>>16096245

Just drop it off at your home and wait for it to get molotoved

>>16090927