/v/ - Video Games

>>16022065

This exactly. Notice how (((western media))) avoids giving (((strong womyn))) any sort of hardship that would otherwise make a woman likeable.

>>16022102

except for that other M game, wasn't it made by the makers of dead or alive?

>>16022106

Yeah. Other M was a mistake. the bosses and Ridley's theme were decent tho

>>16022114

but team ninja is a japanese company, why did it play exactly as if a western company made it?

>>16022118

For the same exact reason why DoA6 is looking fucking horrible: muh West

>>16022118

Anon, you are dangerously close to having had a bit too much to think.

>>16022049

In the west pozzed devs don't know what the fuck they want out of a character.

They want to make a "strong female" character because its trendy right now. But they have no idea what actually constitutes as that.

They'll make a character female, but they don't want to come across as sexist so they remove all feminine qualities. The result is an ugly woman that would do significantly better if made into a man.

The character should be "strong", but they don't understand the concept of strength. So instead the character gets handed everything and doesn't have to overcome any challenges. They don't dare actually testing the character, as that could be interpreted by them wanting to abuse the female character.

And as a result we get a shitty Mary Sue.

>I don't know how Japan manages to make its female playable characters and NPCs the type you'd want to play as

Have the character overcome obstacles through gameplay.

Have the character possess qualities that match its visual identity.

Literally do anything coherent and you're good. Stop trying to "break the norm".

>>16022123

eastern companies pozzing themselves to appeal to the west is the newest fad now? lol

>Samus

>Strong Woman

She's literally indistinguishable from a robot except at the end of the games for a few seconds. She has no personality at all. Other M Tried, but it was terrible. Samus being a good example of a strong role model is a complete meme. She's barely human at all, much less a woman. Even the waifu fags who jerk off to zero suit Samus don't do it because they like her personality like you'd find in waifufags from animes, they do it just because she's hot. She's a soulless automaton that is a mere vessel to experience action and exploration gameplay, and then at the end, smiles into the camera with a cute girl face. She's the definition of a sexual object.

>>16022137

she's basically master chief with tits, but that still makes her a strong female protagonist. look up the definition of "stoic" in the dictionary

I don't play metroid, but I think she also got a bit of lore in some of her games

>>16022049

<Japan

>women targeted to appeal to men

>usually unimaginative but time-tested archetype personalities

>if a woman does something cool, she does it in a sexy way

<West

>women targeted to SJWs

>OC donut steel-tier personalities trying to be original but failing at it

>if a women does something cool, it's to send a political message and to show she's a real human bean, so no sexiness allowed because that's unrealistic :^)

The West USED to be capable of making strong female characters. Classic Lara Croft is an excellent example:

>Independant and unreliant on anyone but herself.

>Wealthy

>Skilled in her chosen profession of archeology and knowledgable in it to a great extent

>Capable in general

She lives in a massive mansion that is staffed by a single butler. Nothing is handed to her, going by the difficulty in her games, but she has the raw talent to surpass her challenges. She was THE icon of a sexy, capable young woman in videogames for a solid couple of decades.

Western people don't understand that there's a difference between strength/confidence and "masculinity". They also attribute pompous bitch attitude and virtue signaling and non-whiteness with "strong". In general west doesn't really know how to define words anymore, it's the whole war=peace and freedom=slavery thing becoming how people actually think.

>>16022143

There's a difference between stoic and no personality at all. I've never played Halo so I can't understand the comparison to Master Chief, but if he's anything like Samus then he has no personality either.

Samus never speaks, and never emotes, ever. Samus is never placed in a position where she can emote. The closest she comes to humanity that I can think of is the little thumbs up at the end of Prime 3.

Contrast with Link, another silent protag. Link is often placed in situations where he emotes. Ocarina had plenty of situations like Link's slow, disturbed backing away from the Gorons trying to hug him. Wind Waker is constantly hailed as being excellent at nonverbal emotion on Link's cartoon face. Even Skyward Sword's awkward Justin Beiber faced Link had emotion.

Samus in contrast, you can't even tell if she's blinking under the visor while she's exterminating entire planets 1 alien at a time.

>>16022193

It looks more like a swastika to me. These people aren't particularly bright.

>>16022202

>They're not really infected by the Western cancer

CDPR/GoG and the Metro games are pozed as fuck. Eastern Euros aren't any better than the west. They make far less games than the west and are just less vocal about this shit since most of them don't speak English.

>>16022217

Wait, how are they pozed? How are Eastern Euros similar to Western Euros in politics in any shape or form?

Nips just make male characters and slap on some boobs.

>>16022224

He's wrong – identity politics are not present in Eastern Europe. However, a lot of the games you hear about are actually based on leftist books, notably Metro, Witcher, or Stalker. You gotta realise that the opposition during the commie era was not formed by the right wing, but by westaboos (they were controlled opposition, but to admit it is wrong think. Actual right wingers got dealt with in a permanent fashion while these cunts got to take power after 1989 in return for arranging it so that the old commie guard could comfortably retire without criminal prosecution or anything). The west is infested by liberals, and so they too were liberals and so all these books by the intelligentsia are chock-full of leftist shit. Thankfully, it doesn't translate to video games very well, so you usually don't really notice this unless you specifically look for it.

>>16022224

GoG fired a guy for being "transphobic" and Metros whole story is about muh poor, misunderstood darkies.

The pozzed Western devs's ideal "female" character is typically a mary sue and/or progressive talking point generator. They hate beauty so the characters are always ugly, and they can't distinguish fantasy from reality so the characters will parrot their own twisted ideologies no matter the setting. They are so corrupted to the core that they can't write anything good.

>>16022245

By "make" i mean "write"

Not, you know, designing them as straight up trannies.

>>16022389

>>Will be forgotten in 1 year

I know you're just shitposting, but you should realize that shitty game journos wont let go of their shitty boogeyman for at least another fucking decade.

>>16022389

Fuck off, retard.

Japanese women can be just as terrible and evil. The thing is Japanese women understand the privileges they have. Unlike Western women who think they are oppressed Japanese women realize they are just in a different situation. Also women in Japan are not above scrutiny by their culture. Just look at idol culture if they act like whores their career is over.

>>16022072

>4th pic

Looks like that alien human hybrid on the left is trying to store TRON discs in it's ear lobes.

>>16022248

>In the East, women characters are created to appeal to an audience of men first and foremost. Therefore, they can be attractive, show feminine traits, and be flawed individuals. In the west, either the women in HR department or the soylent monsters that serve them call the shots.

A good question to ask about this would be, what is the last ugly or unattractive woman character created by the East?

>>16022520

But if everything is sexist, racist and homophobic (including Anita?) than doesn't that mean nothing is?

>>16022072

>tranny in 4th pic prevents people from thinking he's a man by drawing attention to other things, so people contemplate whether he's even human instead

Genius.

Because the only stonk women Hollyjew hack writers know are feminist lesbians and transgender men.

>>16022590

I think it boils down to modern western writers being incompetent. Just like modern art paintings are just splashes of vomit, so did the writing standards become so relativised that there are none.

>>16022118

But it didn't though. It wouldn't have turned out anything alike if it had been made by a Western dev. A western dev would have never made the game that linear with such a simple control scheme.

>>16022598

And those post modern designs are in video games to the point it's in the business model. Sell a broken, buggy, unfinished product then "patch it later" or "sell the complete experience as DLC". It's like giving you a chess board where black has all of the pieces in their side while white only has pawns and a king. If you want a bishop or knight you have to wait a month for each piece and buy each of them separately. But hey! It's a new and innovative way of playing chess right?

It's the same with women as main characters in media. They are broken incomplete thoughtless messes of characters who are missing the key essence of what makes a woman a woman, whether it be visually or mentally of the character. It's just that feminism doesn't want for women to be portrayed as complete characters in media because it goes against their narrative of all the buzzwords they're trying to shove down our throats. As a result more people are cutting the cord because the quality of programming is not there. It'll be the same with video games. Western video games are in decline. A symptom of the decline is the feminist takeover whether by law or because investors ran out of cronies with talent is that there is no love in complete women. Why write a story about a compete woman when in the end it's sexist and you lose advertisers and good PR?

>>16022610

Yeah Capcom needs to work on their fucking faces.

I think it's a mixture of both incompetence and politics butting in where they shouldn't. They won't make a beautiful woman first off because they can't, because their models and animations suck. Second, they won't bother trying to make better models and animations because the marketers can tell everyone that the butt-ugly womyn they made isn't because we constantly hire and fire interns to spend as little as possible on wages, it's a statement on beauty and the current oppressed state of woman all around the world, so if you don't buy our game you're a soggy-kneed bastard.

>>16022648

She used to be a telemarketer before she got into making videos about feminism and she's jewish, she's totally in it just for the cash

>>16022666

Their current M.O. is to base their character models on the english voice actor probably through mocap. I don't know if it's done to cut down on manhours or they want to be more (((hollywood))). All I know they spent a pretty penny on the RE engine so it's not going to change anytime soon.

>>16022180

I know this is probably bait because it's so retarded, but here's your (you)

List of games in which Samus is given the opportunity to emote and display emotional attachment of any kind:

Metroid Zero Mission: Shows concern without her powersuit but pushes on anyway, shows attachment to Chozo heritage

Metroid 2: Chooses not to kill the last remaining metroid, spares it and allows it to follow her to her ship, recognizing that it sees her as a mother figure due to imprinting and that it poses no threat at the moment. Realizes that it can likely be used to her/the federation's advantage if captured.

Metroid 3, aka Super Metroid: Intro cutscene confirms directly what I said about Metroid 2, and she saves the animals at the end (you'll see why I bring this up later), but she remains mostly silent and at the whim of the player here

Metroid 4 (Metroid Fusion): I cannot believe you claim she gets no opportunity to emote or or speak when people never shut up about how much talking there is in this game. She has several monologues about how she feels about the current situation over the course of the game, mostly in elevator travel between areas, she speaks about her opinions on Adam (the AI giving her orders) and the orders shes being given and what she thinks of them, her history with the federation, she even comments about the Etecoons and Dachoras The animals from Super Metroid and how they've interacted with her in the past, such as teaching her new ways to use her suit's abilities in Super Metroid. If this is still not enough for you, there's also the ending sequence, where she speaks in a knowing way about the circumstances on the station, chooses to betray the federation, and makes philosophical comments about how the X parasites think or act, even analyzing the SA-X's final choice to sacrifice itself to destroy what it perceived as a greater threat, the Omega Metroid.

Metroid Prime: Chooses to hunt down Ridley in spite of the damage to her powersuit during the escape from the Orpheon, Relentlessly continues her mission even though it would be totally understandable to break off and resupply, has a long, sad look at the planet near the end when the ruins of the people who aided and raised her in the past (The Chozo) are falling apart in front of her.

Metroid Prime 2: Here she cannot leave the planet immediately unlike in Prime 1, but she still shows an emotional response when finding the dead GF troopers, in addition, after saving the entire planet, she simply leaves as if it was another day on the job for her

Metroid Prime 3: Far more opportunities for characterization simply because there are more characters. She has an obvious working relationship with the other hunters, and they speak to her as such, she doesn't need to say anything for this to come across. She also has brief flashbacks of them at the end, showing personal attachment.

I think I've gone on long enough to point out why you're a fucking retard, but if you want you could also read the manuals, manga, or any other written material about her and find out that she does, in fact, have a personality. I don't know if you're just actually autistic and unable to pick up on body language and non-verbal communication or context clues, but let me sum up a few points:

- Very Professional, she is very devoted to her work and takes her job very seriously, refusing to simply give up or stop before its completed, but is still capable of interpreting the "spirit" of her orders when necessary

- Clearly intelligent and resourceful, quick to spot inconsistencies and traps, always on guard when on a mission, and is capable of abstract thinking and prediction of her enemy's actions

- Morally driven, she asked for no real reward for saving the Luminoth (even returning their technology she borrowed), and was totally against the federation's plans to use the metroids and the X parasites as bio-weapons, seeing such experiments as dangerous and wrong

- Motivated by her history, she clearly pursues Ridley recklessly and shows an attachment to the Chozo, she also seems to take personal responsibility for dealing with the metroids, either because of an exclusive contract or professional obligation

- Emotionally distant, she avoids talking about herself except internally, she is willing to act to help people she cares about, but dislikes socializing to excess

>>16022728

there is literally nothing wrong with being jewish

>>16022790

Your dad.

>>16022701

Well the faces are getting better at least. Like Claire looks like a human female most of the time now.

>>16022881

>Well the faces are getting better at least. Like Claire looks like a human female most of the time now.

I'm not so sure about that, my sister is a huge Resident Evil fan and she hates the way Claire and Sherry look in this new remake. She thinks all of the characters look better in those CGI movies they made not too long ago, personally I think everybody looked great in Darkside Chronicles 1 and 2. Also, after years of having the same Claire voice the new one sounds really off.

>>16022049

3D is shit either way

>>16022925

I didn't say they looked great just better than RE7.

>>16022985

>Real life american streets are mostly white and hispanic

This is false, and I live amongst a shitload of niggers, and I hate it. The person who has a warped sense of reality is you.

>>16022049

Fun fact: women who aren't feminine aren't likable. You are just broken.

>>16022118

Because that was the era when Japanese game devs thought they had to "catch up" with western game development. That's why you had shit like Sega making FPS games with space muhreens and shit like that and sometimes it was okay.

>>16023049

>Because that was the era when Japanese game devs thought they had to "catch up" with western game development.

Which makes it all the more delicious when hardasses like Kamiya tell westerners to go fuck themselves over Twitter.

>>16023025

Right, it's only a few places like Vermont and most rural places that are mostly White, you go to any of the big cities and their stuffed with a Rainbow Coalition of every race. in the city I work in sometimes it can be like a day or two before you even see or speak to a (normal) white person.

>>16023049

>Because that was the era when Japanese game devs thought they had to "catch up" with western game development. That's why you had shit like Sega making FPS games.

that takes me back, anybody remember quantum theory, mindjack, binary domain, or any of those Konami first person shooters on the PSP? That was a weird time.

>>16023085

>>16023123

> they're not using ugly female face models this time

Claire looks ugly as fuck and so does everyone in DMC5

>>16022234

Shut the fuck up. It's literally because of ugly retards that only care about feeling threatened by idealized fantasy tits. Your Jews wouldn't mean shit if the cucks and hags didn't choose to be cancer in the first place for the most infuriating beating worthy reasons. I'm sick of all this shit about Marxism or Zionism while ignoring the shit that don't care and support it to begin with for its own contemptible asshurt over being unattractive and unlikable little bitches.

>>16023164

Nice try, rabbi.

>>16023153

Not as ugly as the female models in RE7.

Increasingly people in the west are developing absurd inferiority complexes over people or depictions of people that are naturally beautiful and talented, or just different in a way not easily imitated. It's this whole multilayered thing and our creative output is pretty much turning into a subconcious expression of how fucked up we are inside because of our new multicultural multiracial 'enlightenment'.

Some of these artists probably haven't seen a genuinely pretty, fair-skinned woman that hasn't damaged herself to fit in (hairdye, black/ethnic fashion and mannerisms, etc) in a very, very long time.

>>16022049

just dont play western AAA games after 2011, there's a couple of good games featuring a female protagonist before that year

>>16023190

>Magical Starsign

>Monhun

Some great taste there. And yeah it's because they're designed with aesthetics in mind rather than some arbitrary quota of representation. They make a character that will be appealing and unsurprisingly enough attractive women with nice personalities are more appealing than unattractive women with rotten personalities.

>>16023195

How's that Psych 101 treating ya, anon? Understand the world yet?

>strong women

>likable

Stealth feminism is still feminism.

>>16023280

Capable responsible women are the exact opposite of feminism. Feminism is female infantilization and Invincible Mary Sue's that face no hardships and no real Danger.

>>16022197

lol came to post this.. that definitely looks like a fucking swastika

>>16023100

Oh well that's the thing though, Capcom wasn't always this terrible at making female characters or characters in general. Something happened over the last few years. After Dead Rising and Lost Planet Capcom had this weird push to make big budget games that they thought would appeal to a western/global audience. They wanted to stop being cap, and become Ubisoft/Epic or some crap like that. It's a little foggy now but I think by the time Brad Pitt's "Dark Void" came out they had to reassess their strategy because they we're bleeding money. Resident Evil 5 and 6 were Financial successes (but not critical successes) and that's when we started seeing Capcom selling exclusives to Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. If it hadn't been for that strategy plus the popularity of Monster Hunter, Capcom probably would have gone the way of Konami and stopped making games all together. You can imagine all the wonderful Street Fighter and Resident Evil pachinko machines though.

>>16023308

>capable responsible

>women

Never have existed.

>>Feminism is female infantilization

Feminism is the masculinization of females. This includes making them look more masculine, act more masculine, or giving them masculine personality traits. "Strong" "competent" "responsible" are all masculine traits.

>>16023326

Masculine looking women have always existed, that's not something new. And feminism doesn't cause women to act more "masculine" unless what you mean by masculine is having negative personality traits and generally being aggressive and unpleasant. But that's not actual masculinity

>>16023308

It's women deemed competent by their similarity to men, not by the strength of their adherence to feminine virtues and strengths, like chastity, compassion, and inspiration of men. Feminism is a hatred of the 'weakness' of femininity by holding it to a male standard, that's why it came about after the world was obsessed by egalitarian rationalism.

>>16023326

You're completely off base if you don't think a successful feminine woman also needs to be strong competent and responsible. Those are the traits of the world's best Mothers. That's why lesser women hide behind feminism so they can delude themselves and hide from their own inferiority complexes and inadequacy.

>>16023349

Feminism is communism mixed with gender Theory. It's all the same cultural Marxist trash there is nothing inherently different about feminism that you won't find in any socialist trash textbook. All you do is switch around the proletariat and the capitalists for women and men. Instead of biology men and women become classes that must forever struggle for power. So traditionally feminine Things become the chains of Slavery to the mind of a feminist that sees everything as class struggle.

>>16023340

>masculine looking women have always existed

Great job, anon, you totally ignored the point there.

>And feminism doesn't cause women to act more "masculine"

Right, there is nothing about feminism that seeks to put females in male spheres or to be treated like males. I guess we can just ignore reality. Fighting females isn't feminism! We just have to ignore how feminism has increased "strong" fighting female characters in entertainment exponentially over the past decade alone. Nope, it isn't feminism, because you say so. Thanks, anon, you have opened my eyes.

kys

>>16023353

>successful feminism women

>strong competent responsible

The overwhelming majority of women throughout history, to the point of your contention being ridiculous, were none of those things because none of those things are feminine traits.

>>16023358

Communism is egalitarian rationalism too anon, they are both symptoms of a world with no divinity or nature, only man's will.

You're not paying attention feminism exist to destroy men and "masculinity" that's why they keep calling it toxic masculinity. And it's not women that get into male spheres it's feminist women that want to take over and seize power for themselves so they can de-power and delegitimize man as well as stigmatize and demoralize. You need to start thinking in three dimensions here anon.

>>16023369

They call it toxic masculinity in regard to males, because feminism is also about feminisming males. Toxic masculinity is never a complaint aimed at females, because feminism glorifies masculinity as a trait for females to aspire toward. Feminism demonizes FEMININITY in regard to females. Feminism is at its core an ideology about gender role reversal.

>>16023369

It exists to destroy social structures and allow people to gain power in the resulting chaos, because it's a view that teaches followers that hierarchies are always destructive man created things, not built into the nature of Life, it first destroyed the ideal and reality of femininity though.

>>16023376

Yes but they're never strict to adhere to these rule sets, because they don't have any rules they'll only accuse a male they don't like of being toxic for the most part they will never accuse their "allies" that can do heinous things without being toxically masculine. And although the left will sometimes fight itself the truth is they very rarely do it with the same fervor and regularity they do against their enemies. A fight amongst the left is usually just a squabble for position not an outright attack. You never see them accuse black men of toxic masculinity or disgusting pop songs for being sexist and lurid. Everything they do is about paralyzing their opposition. That's why the best strategy for dealing with them is to call them Liars and stop believing in anything they say, the only reason they have any power at all is because human beings are programmed to actually listen to words and take them at face value. The entire purpose of leftist movements is hacking and and hijacking the most basic of human behavior. Even highly intelligent people aren't immune to its effects.

>>16023421

>they are hypocrites

No shit. Feminism is being pushed from the top down by those who don't actually believe in it, but instead want the results it will offer. Their doublethink golems apply feminism hypocritically.

>>16023381

Essentially boils down to the replacement of power and social structure through indoctrination. But it also serves to disrupt and Destroy native populations and cultural identity.

>>16023420

A woman made Sekirei.

>>16023442

Female creators and producers really aren't that new, or rare for that matter. It's just that feminism has corrupted our view of history and we've been led to believe that women were never allowed to do anything until fairly recently. (women have been involved in making anime and manga since their Inception, they were never excluded from these things)

Back when capeshit wasn't ruined the west was capable

>>16023420

Not really 'nu/pol/' it's guys who are basically the male equivalents of feminists, and you can see them on all sides, since they also believe women are inferior by holding them to a standard describing men. This view was popular with strong men of the Enlightenment and led to a situation that made it easy to weaponize a reaction from upperclass women against it, which weak men happily bandwagoned to gain additional social power.

>>16023366

I'd be amused to see that in a game.

>hire a party member

>see she has high magic potential, could be a top tier mage

>pathetic strength

>try to give her a staff

>she tells you to fuck off she'll do what she wants

>She auto equips the best melee weapon in your inventory

>her skills are all greyed out because she doesn't have a magic weapon equipped

>her pathetic strength stats means she's garbage with melee and is effectively dead weight

>enemies capitalise on this and ignore her in combat

>if you remove her from your team she takes your gear with her

>she blames the player for being shit at video games and unable to utilise her skills/some 'oppressive' system when she dies or suffers any kind of failure

>any attempt to correct her is met with an abusive tirade about oppression and letting her be what she wants to be

It's none too subtle, but I'd find it an amusing commentary.

>>16023479

I wonder how many woke game journos would say

>…ok…

and just let her do her thang.

Japanese "strong female character" = cute girl who possesses both feminine and masculine virtues

Contemporary western "strong female character" = ugly, aggressive cunt without the virtues traditionally associated with either sex

The Japanese version is an ideal both men and women aspire to naturally. The kikes western version is propaganda meant to destroy ideals.

>>16023366

Yeah but they've also been convinced that healing or buffing men is oppression, and meanwhile, lots of fighters and black mages think healers are all weak useless subservient sluts. Result is the party wipes.

>>16023358

And the worst part of it all? Women aren't any happier being "liberated" this way.

Fathers and mothers used to be the head and heart of the household, equal but different. A father's wages had to be sufficient to support children, with mothers working part-time or not at all, or else everyone gets poorer and businesses fail all around because no one is buying luxury goods. There was an equilibrium of rational self-interest in the economy that gave America the world's highest quality of life by any metric.

Then Feminism came along and convinced women they're "oppressed" by the opportunity to quit their full-time jobs after marriage. Now the supply of labor is nearly double what it should be, and the market value of labor has obviously dwindled. Now double-income households are a necessity for most mothers. Who benefits from this but the corporations, paying their workers of either gender less and less?

Even worse, the myth of the strong independent single mother who never needed a man has trapped so many women in the impossible duty of being a mother and a father at the same time, with devastating social consequences for people raised in fatherless homes.

These so-called "liberated" women are constantly exhausted and get sick from stress. They don't even get to be mothers, not really. They ship their children off to daycare centers that have no interest in building strong community bonds or passing down cultural values to the next generation. As long as it keeps the children quiet it's good enough.

Capitalism needs the nuclear family.

>>16022049

Women in modern western games are made to appeal to trannies and feminists, so female characters end up being laughable caricatures of men. Women in eastern games are made to appeal to everyone, so female characters end up being women.

Eastern female characters believe that benevolence and kindness is a strength, because their writers know how it's tough to have faith in others after they let you down (see: how Hiroshima and Nagasaki affected Japan). Modern western female characters believe that being an ugly uncooperative asshole is a strength, because they're written by twitter kool aid drinkers who look for routinely look for hot takes about OWNING rightists on their feed.

>>16023494

They'd probably then complain that the game is too hard because they'd be wiping due to the dead weight teammate.

>>16023402

>not a fan

>rich back story

Bitch, I played all the metroids games and he is fucking right. Samus has no fucking personality whatsoever. You call that fucking backstory rich? Come the fuck on.

>>16022828

Are you using SHODAN as an example? She's a good female character, but she's a manipulative asshole who ridicules you repeatedly. A lot of people unironically act like her IRL.

>L-l-look at you, misogynist. A pathetic basement dwelling creature of meat and bone. Panting and sweating as you browse through my twitter feed. How can you challenge a perfect immortal woman?

>>16023420

Can I see the interview?

>>16023513

Yep, most of that pretty much sums up the past several decades. missing a few bits and pieces like the invention of the birth control pill and how lots of different feminist luminaries like (((Gloria Steinem))) were actually funded by government organizations (Steinem herself thanks the CIA multiple times in her books). And while most people remember Margaret Thatcher as a heavy right winger a lot of them don't know that she allowed lots of radical feminists into numerous positions of government.

>>16023479

>if you remove her from your team, she takes 1/3 the active party's EXP as if she were still in it, leaving 2/9 for each active party character

FTFY

>>16023420

>women can make decent shit when feminism and cultural marxism aren't holding them back.

Indeed. The damage leftists did to the sandwich making traditions is staggering.

>>16023479

>I'd be amused to see that in a game

I've seen shit like that ten years ago in both WoW and GW, and trust me, shit ain't amusing.

>>16023559

Truth be told, the best sandwiches I've ever eaten were made by men. And last time I checked the culinary industry is absolutely dominated by men….

its not this complex, here

-Japanese studio

>is the character likable on some level

>can the character sell merchandise like figures?

once those two checkmarks are ticked, the writers can do what they want

-western studio

>she has to be check 3-5 "representation" tick marks

>she has to be pretty but not TOO pretty, give her freckles or something

>she has to be "down to earth" which loosely translates into snarky

>strict dress code, even if it ignores the rest of the games setting

>has to be "realistic" but also able to fight enemies twice her size with no magic or weapons to support it, even though male characters will resort to tools or tricks to beat physically stronger enemies all the time

now once you've covered all these basis, you can make your character, show it to the focus group, then go do it all again because one member of the focus group nitpicked it. By this point there are no developer intentions remaining on this character, just a series of ticked boxed creating another girl who acts identically to other 2013~ onward female characters.

Writing a "strong female" character isn't even hard, just write a girl with some goals, strengths, and weaknesses and work from there and other people will probably like them too if you're a remotely competent fucking writer

>>16023558

Thanks anon, alternatively she could take a portion of the parties gold to make up for the wage gap she could talk about how the king or some other legendary hero makes this much money in comparison to female adventurers like her whilst doing it.

It'd require the game to have some form of character vs player agency throughout though so that she isn't an isolated example, which is difficult to pull off. Deltarune had something like that, but abandoned it because it was convenient to the plot and character development.

>>16023572

I'm sure I'd hate it at the time because she'd be a worthless piece of shit, but on reflection I'd find it funny.

>>16022160

>share a Cock with a games journalist

>>16023558

Sounds like real world divorce.

>>16022049

I'm aware someone probably already said something like this, but the reason they're not likeable is because they're not endearing or relatable. They're either feminist icons, Mary Sues or whining perpetual victims that never get past their "tragic" past (this also goes for unlikeable male characters that do this). Writers don't know how to write character flaws in women while also making them likeable. Likeable flawed characters are supposed to be relatable because you can understand and empathize with their struggle, and their achievements and praise don't feel undeserved. They also don't rub their struggles on other people's faces and have strong convictions/ideals. It's basically a lack of charisma.

>>16023649

>I'm sure I'd hate it at the time because she'd be a worthless piece of shit, but on reflection I'd find it funny.

It's a practical joke, people typically find practical jokes not funny if it's at their own expense. This also explains why humor is hard to do in a video game, because the devs accidentally end up writing a practical joke.

>>16022049

>How is it that Japan can make strong likable women, but the west can't?

This is pretty easy.

Answer: because the Nips can and still do follow the basic rules of writing good characters. The doctrine of social justice has made that not just disallowed but anathema. Compelling characters are those who people can relate to and have journeys, they have growth and character arcs. With social justice, you can't HAVE any women or "people of color" who have any character flaws, fail miserably at anything, make horrible mistakes that have dire consequences, act feminine in any way, etc.

The only allowed "archetype" if you want to call it that, that's allowed now for the progressives is the Mary Sue/Gary Stu. You see, if you have any weaknesses or character flaws or negative character traits, that's being sexist/racist/bigoted/etc. Look at Joss Whedon; ignoring the huge cuck that he is, he tried giving Black Widow some dark conflicted background story in his Marvel movie, and the shitlibs went fucking apeshit because he dared to show her with a weakness and with shame. The Japanese still know how to and are allowed to write good, compelling characters, and are rewarded for doing so. OPM was a huge success, the guy is all-powerful but still a compelling character.

So in short, it isn't that the West has forgotten how to write good characters. It's that the people who can are removed from the equation by the gatekeepers, who exist in every form of media in Western civilization. They don't want compelling or complex female characters because it's deemed sexist or bigoted to portray a female as having a weakness or being less capable than a man, etc.

>>16023707

>Jews are also probably to blame somewhere in the mix as they always are as well

SJW scum wouldn't exist in the first place if it were not for their manipulation.

>>16023707

>Nia

That fucker is weird. She INFLATED Malos and nearly killed him. Seriously the fuck was that all about? Fucking weirdo.

>>16023701

because Hollywood or SJW employees convinced Capcom that would appeal to Westerners. his arm is also made up of the remains of his dead wife, so he's technically "part woman" as well…

>>16023583

That's true about anything other than giving birth. Men are always better at doing things.

>>16023732

As much as fucking a jar of the ashes of your dead wife, I suppose.

>>16023738

>you will never bake the ashes of your dead wife into an onahole

Why live?

>>16023524

This.

There was some game where a faction of looters exists. If they initially see you, they'll keep distance and fire warning hots, aka shooting way over your head.

If you ignore them, they'll mind their own business. You can even trade with them later. If you attack them, then suddenly there's pissed off looters everywhere.

Naturally, every game journo assumed they just didn't hit, killed them and complained about how you're constantly being shot at.

>>16023626

>Writing a "strong female" character isn't even hard, just write a girl with some goals, strengths, and weaknesses and work from there and other people will probably like them too if you're a remotely competent fucking writer

Jep. Lemme try:

There is a loli in W40k who dual-wields stormbolters. She can do so because Khorne thought it was funny. However as she's a loli she is entirely inept at tactics and things like that.

I think one can work with this.

>>16023732

more or less, I think the villain actually makes that joke in the Japanese script for the game.

>>16023738

it might be a little bit more like Robocop, where some of her brain cells and cerebral cortex are actually still alive inside the arm. gives it a bit of an AI type of utility so the arm can grapple better and hack into/overpower older computers

>>16023754

I know you be talkin bout Rain World my nignog. Scavs did nothing wrong. Well you know except for a tribe or two later who just hate you on sight but whatever, they're in the minority.

>>16023754

>entirely inept at tactics

>sides with khorne

worked out alright

>>16023760

>I think the villain actually makes that joke in the Japanese script for the game.

Maximum kek. I love Japan for shit like this.

>>16023834

in the mountains of 40k lore are there any examples of actual tactics usage that aren't dropping space marines behind enemy lines or holding out for dear life against hoards?

>>16022233

literally this, couldn't have said it better myself

>>16023244

So basically, they shit all over it because the protagonist was too attractive?

>>16023926

Forget logic. They just want absolute control over the industry. Once all game studios are 100% filled with nothing but women and trannies, then they'll be happy. Then gaming will die, and we'll all just start reading book again. Or TTG will make a big come back.

>>16023551

>I totally played the all games you're wrong

She has characterization. If you're the type of person who can't pick up anything that isn't thrown in their face that's not my problem.

>>16023955

Not women and trannies, but specifically women, trannies and numales that are part of their clique. At the core of it, it's about control. They present a "problem" that no one thought existed until they came around and that the only "solution" to conveniently happens to be giving them money, power, or influence.

>>16024043

I forgot to mention that pic related was a good example of a Western female character.

>>16023551

>Bitch, I played all the metroids games and he is fucking right

Apparently none of these then:

>>16022706

What did you play? Fucking Metroid Prime Pinball?

>>16022137

>She's the definition of a sexual object.

Aka a woman

>>16022602

The problem with Capcom is they often try to emulate western games. Sometimes it works, like Dragon's Dogma, but most of the time it doesn't.

>>16024054

That's because she was made for a male audience in mind. Pandering to women is how you get shit female characters.

>>16022828

Funny thing about Shodan's VA:

http://archive.is/Vwi1W

She's an impotent leftist :^)

>>16022137

>Don't talk

>Do your job

>When not working, show some skin

Seems legit.

>>16024112

Also the target demographic would be compelled to protect their waifu…or see her get fucked up for that particular group of fans.

>>16024109

Pretty typical of women in any part of the entertainment business.

>>16022137

That's because "strong" and "woman" are diametrically opposite and a modern leftist invention, and as with every other leftist construct it is only created to pervert and destroy established traditions that have endured for centuries.

>>16024112

We had that before everyone decided to cuck out. Haunting Ground, Clock Tower, Fatal Frame, etc.

Haunting Ground gets a special mention because it's less about the horror and more about not getting raped or having your womb cut out of you. More survival horror games with a female lead should be about avoiding rape.

>>16024126

Nintendo has seriously destroyed the marketability of Fatal Frame in the West. To make amends they really should do some kind of collection on the switch with none of the censorship. But I don't see that happening anytime soon.

>>16022828

He pretty clearly stated that the west used to be capable of making strong female characters but is no longer able to. Read the full post next time.

>>16024124

Yeah, >>16023554 pretty much nailed it.

>>16024106

I'm not so sure about that. You can have women that are likeable and don't really pander to anyone, but it's something that is seen more in movies than in video games.

>>16024112

And that's why people call it "problematic," because it insinuates that women are victims to their environment. The difference between us and them is that we think this truth is rooted in biology while they think it's a product of sexism. In all honesty, I think it's a mixture of both.

>>16024181

>You can have women that are likeable and don't really pander to anyone

No, you don't. Either a woman is good looking and moe, and thus completely despised by the female audience, or a self-insert for the female audience (or a Mary Sue for the feminists) and hated by the male audience.

Men and women don't like the same things.

>>16024187

Both men and women like characters like jill valentine.

>>16024190

Again, bullshit. Jill was made for a male audience. If men and women like the same shit there wouldn't be a need to separate entertainment according to gender.

>>16024187

Do you honestly fucking think the entire magical girl genre is solely for men?

>>16024197

>bullshit

But it isnt, both in real life and online ive seen female opoinion towards her to be almost always positive.

I feel like youre throughly talking out of your ass, anon.

Japan can create tons of annoying and arrogant women.

See Ace Combat.

>>16024203

>ive seen female opoinion towards her to be almost always positive

>muh anecdotal evidence

Go tip your fedora someplace else.

>>16024211

Anecdotal evidence is superior to baseless assertions lacking any evidence.

>>16024229

>baseless assertions

Then explain why there's a separate market for men and women when it comes to entertainment.

>>16024233

There's content meant to primary appeal to one or the other as well as content that compromises and appeals to both.

>>16024248

Thank you for stating the fucking obvious you cockmonger. The point is that Jill is very much meant to appeal to a male audience only.

>inb4 some women like her

Some men like watching romance movies, doesn't mean said romance movies are aimed at a male audience. Exceptions that prove the rule and all that.

>>16024233

Because men and women are different biologically, psychologically and socially. That still doesn't say anything about how women must dislike Jill Valentine.

>>16024263

>The point is that Jill is very much meant to appeal to a male audience only.

How?

>>16024262

It's typical for any content creator. The more left they drift the uglier the women get.

>>16024264

I never said that they must dislike her, just that Jill was clearly never made with a female audience in mind.

>>16024266

Get yourself a penis and figure it out.

>>16024262

Dunno who the chick on the right is, but Ashley was made to be annoying.

the east gives women realistic character flaws that make them appear more human, where as in the west women are super humans that are stronger,smarter, and better at everything then men, Mary sues are boring and thats the only female character the west can produce

>>16024263

Most women like her.

>>16024273

[citation needed]

>>16024268

>Capcom

>Left

>Even though churn out 10 bazzilion Chun Li costumes a week each more revealing than the last.

Faggot please. Seriously. The token ugly Capcom chick is a decades old trope they keep using.

>>16024280

Most women (male)

>>16023349

>>16023366

>>16023509

good posts, funny and accurate

>>16024268

>Educate yourself :^)

For fuck's sake, you've been throwing out meaningless shit with no base in anything and parading it as fact the entire thread. Explain to me how Jill is meant only to appeal to males.

>>16024280

The lack of even modern feminists bitching about her.

>>16024299

Stop being a nigger. You made a retarded claim, now it's up to you to prove it.

>>16024300

Because we all know feminists give enough of a shit about games to keep track of every franchise out there, just like Anita totally played all those "sexist" games she was bitching about.

When was the last time Jill was relevant? RE5? Leftists were too busy whining about niggers to bother playing the game.

>>16024315

RE revelations and REmake HD.

>>16023725

>That's true about anything other than giving birth. Men are always better at doing things.

that's because men are rewarded for being good at doing things with status, power and wealth by being good at things, all those attract women to them. A woman who is the best cook in the world but ugly with a plain body, isn't going to attract high quality men, but a man could still get a girl far above his flaws if he makes up for it will status, wealth, power.

On the flip side the only skill a woman needs is to improve her looks and attitude to get a quality man, no other work required. So over the course of hundreds of thousands of years with this dynamic, men who were competent and talented would win the evolution game while women who were attractive to men would.

>>16024315

<Jill is meant only to appeal to males.

>Tell me why Jill is meant only to appeal to males.

<[Half baked insult]

>You're full of shit, tell me why Jill is meant only to appeal to males.

<[Half baked insult]. You made a retarded claim

I warn you, I never feel bad about picking on the mentally retarded. One more time, how is Jill meant only to appeal to males?

>>16024343

If anything, jill was meant to look like an actress in an action movie, just like the original cast of the game.

>>16024322

>RE revelations

3DS title.

>REmake HD

That shit was a GameCube exclusive for years. Again, she hasn't been relevant for years.

Hell, they completely ignored all the "race baiting" with Sheva, the stuff in RE6 and pretty much everything else RE related. The last time I heard them whining was with RE5, and only because the preview material showed Chris killing niggers (despite the game later showing it wasn't all niggers). It's obvious leftists don't play survival horror games that aren't walking simulators.

>>16024343

>Tell me why Jill is meant only to appeal to males.

Shit, nigger, might as well ask why attractive women are attractive to men. How do you expect me to take you seriously when you ask questions this asinine?

>One more time, how is Jill meant only to appeal to males?

Why don't you try to explain to me how her costume in RE3 and 5 are meant to win over the shrieking harpies that are women in the West?

As I said to the other anon, leftists by and large don't give a shit about proper survival horror games. About the only times I've seen them mention it was with RE5 and the latest Fatal Frame, and only because those were relatively high profile.

Ask one of those fuckwits and Haunting Ground and watch their eyes glaze over in confusion despite that game being highly "problematic".

>>16023420

Bayonetta's design, the very first one with long hair, came 100% from kamiya's mind, not a woman wouldn't be surprised if short haired bayonetta's design was actually made by a woman though, she's ugly as fuck and cutting a woman's hair is like cutting a man's testicles, she's his galatea.

>>16024383

See, that's plain wrong. Both men and women enjoy attractive females. Why do you think even shitty self-insert girly movies have an attractive lead or have their lead becomes attractive in 20 minutes?

>>16024404

>See, that's plain wrong. Both men and women enjoy attractive females.

my sister loves Otome visual novels, she will only play them if she can see her character and the character is attractive

>>16022160

>cuties killing video games

>>16024404

>Why do you think even shitty self-insert girly movies have an attractive lead or have their lead becomes attractive in 20 minutes?

But they don't you stupid fuck. If 2D their attractiveness is never really mentioned or they're described as plain. If they're played by an IRL actress they'll always choose the flat chested, brown haired, brown eyed one. Why do you think all those characters are horrible at housework and cooking? Why do you think they're all in their 30s?

Why do you think virtually all actresses in Hollywood these days are ugly cunts with no curves? Women are threatened by other attractive females and once the kikes figured out women were the biggest spenders they started pandering to them, thus ushering the age of the munter.

>>16022234

>It's always because of kikes.

Japan makes such great gaems because Joos?

>>16022049

Japan makes games that cater to the fans of their games/series. Western studios are trying to "expand the audience" and in their effort to appeal to everyone and "expand the audience" they end up alienating fans because in most of these cases it's so blatant you don't even have to be a fan to see they're doing it.

In short: It's the jews chasing those dollar signs that are ruining everything.

They hear that trans faggots are playing video games and suddenly every game needs a trans character because they're stupid and think that's what pushes sales.

>>16022197

>>16022193

>>16023316

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recycling_symbol

>>16024468

The 3rd pic is exactly what he described and the first two pics are not only an old hag but a kikess who dyes her hair.

>>16024468

>If you had played any otome game out there you'd see that the girl is being showered with compliments about how pretty she is by all the right guys all the bloody time in the game

That's blatantly not true. 90% of those games are about the plain jane getting all the Chads lusting after her for unexplained reasons while ignoring all the "mean" pretty girls because they're pretty, ergo mean.

These games are made by ugly munters for ugly munters, because Stacy is too busy getting fucked by Chad to play them.

>but to normalfags they're at least 8.5/10

Normalfags have been conditioned to never speak out against women. The men because they'd get flayed alive, and the women because they're cunts and always call each other pretty when all they really do is feel glad there's a cunt out there uglier than them.

>except for those who are specifically trying to cater to the archetypal insecure woman you're writing about

So, basically all movies that came out in the past decade.

>>16024468

You can find cuter girls than that in the grocery store.

>>16024143

>Nintendo of America has seriously destroyed the marketability of Fatal Frame in the West.

Fixed.

At least NoE got us FF2 Wii remake, the physical (and collectors edition) of FF5 and tried to get 4 back in the day. NoA is absolutely retarded about FF, I still can't understand how fans were able to convince NoA to release a physical version of Devil's Third but not FF5.

>>16024488

Vast majority of women I see in public are obese at this point.

>>16022049

Western developers go out of their way to make ugly women so that SJWs look away, or more often than not, are just SJWs anyway. Japanese developers know that having beautiful sexy women is good business and morale. If there's beautiful characters to look at, you're more motivated to do something. This is also why western developers turn out lazy projects in the presence of ugly characters and NPCs.

You only have to go back a little while to where western developers were trying to have sexy women in games and see the same mindset that japanese developers had.

> Timeslitters Future Perfect

> Original Tomb Raider games

> Dark Messiah of Might & Magic

Each of those examples utilized sexy women in different but special ways. Future Perfect had dozens of them to choose in multiplayer and to look at in campaign. Original Tomb Raider used Lara Croft as a pin-up girl in advertising. DMoMM used Xana's sex appeal to clash with Leanna's modesty.

>>16022049

That's because in the west the left controls the media and game companies why do you think everything now days is a shit show of micro shit and forced political gay agenda? Japs don't give a flying fuck about left leaning leeches even if some of their games are just fap bait they tend to sell well because no one wants to see realistic ugly wamyn in their games who pretends to be strong when in reality is plot armor for agenda pushing.

>>16024200

Magical girls are for men and little girls. You start getting problems when you pander to adult women because they have fucking awful taste. Shoujo, shounen, and seinen manga can all be good but josei is rancid shit 100% of the time.

>>16024638

A huge amount of Shoujo manga is pretty bad most of the time too. It tends to be nothing but horrible people doing horrible things and not in a fun way.

>>16023477

>Bayonetta's design, the very first one with long hair, came 100% from kamiya's mind, not a woman

>100% from kamiya's mind

False. Part of the idea was his, but a woman fleshed it out and dreamed up the hair clothes gimmick.

>>16022106

Team Ninja were only in charge of the gameplay and graphical aspect of the game ALWAYS under the watch of Sakamoto, so he was the one responsible for the mess.

>>16024450

One of the better posts here. No piece of media is allowed niche status because it's akin to failure

>>16024668

>A huge amount of Shoujo manga is pretty bad most of the time too.

Yeah, but some of it is good. Josei is

>horrible people doing horrible things and not in a fun way

literally all the time.

>>16024638

>Magical girls are for fags and women.

fixed it for you m8

>>16023402

In Sakamoto's headcanon maybe. To the rest of us, we don't give a fuck about some half-assed manga gaiden story.

GET OFF MY LAWN

>>16022072

I'm very sure first pic is supposed to be for girls to take a whizz while camping without pulling their whole pants down.

>>16024723

Depends on the studio involved.

>>16024732

I feel like most publishers do try to "expand their audience" with every new release, regardless of where they come from. The difference is how they do it, I think.

When things turn CROSS and all what is left is Eastwoodims. Sure have a wild fire up in this vidya business. Tired of seeing these sick moaning trapoff faggots. Video games and film will be forever, you're just feeling it now.

>>16024725

In fact I've seen multiple Feminist articles claiming the ability to pee standing up is a factor in the gender wage gap. Yes they are that psychotic about everything male being a problem.

So credit where it's due, at least one Feminist has done something productive, and found a solution to this trivial but demonstrable inequality, now they can't complain.

Shunt yourself to some other board. So I at least have range on you looking at me.

>>16024749

That would mean projected revenue would be the same or less than the previous entry. Don't publishers try to make more than the previous entry?

>>16024759

Most of the time these games are not super high budget and thus only need to make a profit, not make more of a profit each iteration. Often they also rely on merchandise sales as well. They might aim for more sales each iteration but they don't do so by trying to appeal to a wider audience.

>>16024750

Forget this thread, stomp on faggots that think they know from this yard. Up and down, tragic sick animals putting horrible features ruining in the yard. Put your big girl pants on.

>>16024769

So this doesn't apply to higher budget japanese games?

Do high budget jap games act more like western AAA games?

>>16024808

Japanese AAA is not much different than western AAA, less poz most of the time but they are getting there. The primary difference is Japan still has AA and lower studios.

>>16023517

How badly did that go

>>16023420

It's just a simple process that the west (or anyone who hasn't done character design) can't understand.

>Woman like cute things

>Woman then designs characters that they would like

>Characters happen to things like healthy body type, good facial symmetry, interesting personality, does cool things, etc

>Other people (including men) like and/or attracted to those characters (and if you use these points on a real life level for a real person because we are biological attracted to that because we see it as healthy person)

>Cue positive word of mouth about the character and possible sales of what the character is in.

Another way to think of it what would sell more: a healthy normal Barbie or a fat, double chinned, mobility scooter bound, tumblr blogger version?

Because the west love to pander that fact the character is a woman who strong, stronger than you boys. If you doubt her she'll kick your balls (cause you are weak as a male) then decapitate you with her pony tail. He he >:3

Meanwhile east either creates characters who are powerful who happens to be female or females who are strong yet feminine.

Eastern designers don't feel like they have something to prove until the western side when it comes to vaginas.

>>16025391

>>16025404

>yesterday was last year

>>16022240

>leftist books, notably Metro, Witcher, or Stalker

I'm gonna need a detailed breakdown.

>>16025498

Can't speak for Metro or Stalker but the witcher series has a lot of strong independent women cucking people, including the main love interest cucking the MC on multiple occasions.

>>16024439

>twisting anons words into semantical rubbish

piss off kike

>>16025498

It depends on what he meant by leftist, I guess (founding fathers of USA were liberals, but the idea of what a liberal is today has changed drastically), and I can't tell you anything about Metro or Stalker, but I tried reading the first Witcher book and didn't even get a quarter of the way through it before I deleted it in disgust. It's a pretty clear cut case of the author injecting his sexual fantasies into a work of fiction, and doing it poorly, combined with the fact his fantasy involves being a spineless fucking cuck. Geralt is this underdog discriminated guy who gets all the hot babes but lets them walk all over him and dominate him and treat him like shit. He wins all the fights, yet all the cunts treat him, well, like cunts, and he just accepts it. The way the book is written, the author tries to color this as a completely neutral thing or just a nice coloration of his character, instead of the disgusting advocating for spineless cuckness that it is.

I've never looked into the author himself but I bet if I went digging right now the guy would turn out to be a weak, limp-wristed faggot.

>>16025566

whoops you were too slow, /v/ loves jews now

Wait. People actually like Bayonetta as a character? She's always just been a smarmy cunt that is the best lampshade of feminism I've seen in a long time: talking a lot of self-important shit and then getting naked to coerce actual heavy hitters into doing her dirty work when her personal abilities come up short. I have never known anyone to like Bayonetta for her actual character, in person or online.

>>16025652

You can make anyone look hot in fan art. She looks like a greasy kikess in game.

>>16025590

>narcissism the post

by /v/ you actually mean /int/ yeah everyone knows dumb cunt, you're just full of hot air with zero substance, you can't even shill right.

>>16023498

/thread

>>16025669

I just beat the game last week thought it was pretty good. The worst I can say about her is that her teeth are a little too spaced out, and that she makes unattractive facial expressions occasionally. I still wouldn't pull out

>>16025684

too late, maximum jew. getting upset at me wont help. improve your reaction time

>>16025441

>20XX was XX years ago.

>16022137

Mediocre bait. You'll have to try harder to get my (You) next time. I suggest mentioning that Samus is trans as the foundation and go wild from there.

>>16023938

No they shat all over it because standards were different back then. Meh tier games in pre 2012 were regarded as trash.

Nowadays games that were seen as meh tier or trashed unfairly such as Chrono Cross are masterpieces because the standards of gaming has gone down the tubes.

>>16024526

Nope Lara Croft's appeal was in being a spic and Jade from BGE is an obvious multi racial transgender.

>>16024699

Its ok to come out of the closet anon.

>>16026026

that dog in the first .gif

>get em!

>oh no…

>…maybe I should get help?

>…shit he's coming right for me!

>>16026022

>you have to be gay to not like cuckold porn

Kill yourself, you absolute sludge traitor.

Because with a Japanese dev you generally can trust that the character isn't there to beat you down to preach the trending ideology. At the end of the day they are idealized and self aware that they are fictional characters who have little effect on the real world.

With western devs the push for female characters and others are pretty much 100% ideologically driven in belief that they do effect the real world view and thus will never feel right and always feel shallow. The characters are attempts hamfistingly beat you as a deconstruction of the current social space that you should accept and propped up as a teaching tool instead of a mere video game. This plus with western games being more "realistic" reinforces this mindset.

Japanese devs are not perfect though. Many are starting to show the same signs as western devs now due to their attempts to be more "Triple A" and to "expand their audiences" since Japanese gamers no longer console game. This makes the west their primary target now and you can see their shift in market trends due to this unfortunate fact.

>>16022778

Capcom has a history of ugly faces even before their western push or cheap mocap. Chun li has looked horrible in pretty much every modern iteration of Street Fighter, especially IV and V. Street Fighter itself is forever plagued with a grotesque artstyle that makes most of the cast incredibly ugly. Many of the ladies of Street Fighter V are completely borked (like Kolin/Helen). No one looks great in MvCi. Chun Li looked so bad in MvCi that there was a massive outcry from normalfags and Capcom had to make a quick fix.

Yet somehow Chun Li in SFV looks really great, almost perfect, despite the sea of trash. I don't understand how they pulled it off despite everything. It's a miracle.

>>16023970

Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime 2 and Metroid Prime 3 show clear characterization for Samus in how she acts and her body language. While not deep at all, storytelling doesn't have to be in your face for it to be there.

>>16026060

>Street Fighter itself is forever plagued with a grotesque artstyle that makes most of the cast incredibly ugly.

B-b-b-b-but anon! the ugly bodies and limbs are for gameplay purposes! how else could you clearly see them kicking if they didn't have 25 inch feet!?

>>16024197

Dunning-Kruger

>>16024749

>Moving from bloomers to panties was a mistake.

I didn't know bloomers did that, but that's reasonable. The main reason why women have to pull their pants down is because the zippers are positioned to whip out a dick. If the zipper instead was on the bottom of the torso, they could just unzip their cunt and squat somewhere.

>>16026026

>3rd video

It blows my fucking mind that she says all that (which is perfectly accurate) and doesn't act or say anything that implies she thinks there's anything wrong with that state of affairs. One of the biggest battles for the modern man is getting the message across to women in general "no, we don't want cock carousel riders as long term partners, who are only now considering us as potential mates because she's past her prime, not getting the attention or validation she used to, and wants security now that she burned herself out on a decades of assholes."

She's right there openly admitting the existence of the carousel and speaks of it in such casual terms because it's such an expected and widespread, "normal" thing. If bitches could get all the dick they wanted their entire lives, they'd never stop riding the carousel. But instead you have the stupid chick in your video running damage control trying to tell all the "nice guys" not to go anywhere, teehee, we really like you! Just not, you know, when we have the most we can ever offer (youth, sexual appearance, and fertility). I fucking hate the modern state of society.

Because japs do it because they want to and western (((devs))) do it for political reasons?

>>16026393

>doesn't act or say anything that implies she thinks there's anything wrong with that state of affairs

That's it exactly, not realising that during this 'asshole period' their worth as a female is reduced to nothing in the eyes of any man who'd actually want them around then pining for someone who'll give a shit. It's like insider trading, they devalue their own stock to junk bond tier then try and sell the bankrupt company to a dupe.

>>16023421

>or disgusting pop songs for being sexist and lurid.

Not true. They have started doing this in my country, and they have even started teaching "feminist analysis" of these songs in elementary and high school under the pretense of "identifying toxic behavioirs". Some of the songs they chose aren't even that "toxic" unless you actively try to look for stuff to complain at. Yes, it is as cringy as it sounds.

>women

>playable female characters

>ever likable regardless of origin

Just shut up and keep your tits and ass out while I save the fucking universe.

>>16026461

uhoh! while you were busy with me /pol/ was tricked into loving jews. wait thats how its been for years so i guess its stuck that way forever. well damn how do you keep dropping the ball like this? its all a personal failure on your part and the white race is doomed. looks like youll have to try that much harder in every other thread to try to get others to pick up your slack in an attempt to redeem yourself