/v/ - Video Games

Yeah Switch is shit

By next gen Nintendo will be no games just like the other consoles

I'd fuck that Charmander

How did you become a Nintendo fan as someone who was a Sega kid

Sega was always the cooler ones I wasn't aware of it though for a long time as Sega marketing never really touched my area, everyone always knew and talked about either Nintendo, or later Sony and Microsoft

faggot

Anyways, at least they're being more lenient towards 3rd party devs this generation. They're still cancerous in many ways of course, but right now they're the best of the console duopoly in Japan right now and they're showing a surprising amount of balls by allowing some unusually raunchy stuff compared to their entire past.

I hate the fact that Nintendo killed their dedicated handheld line for the Switch though, and as a result I have no reason to buy anything from them unless they create a a new dedicated handheld, or a smaller Switch model that can fit in your pockets and has a better battery life and build quality. I also hate how they effectively killed the 3DS with the Switch. All its support effectively went out the window, though how much of it was intentional or unintentional, I can't say. What I can say is that its very frustrating to me, someone who loves handhelds dearly.

I used to be Nintendo all the way, but my breaking point was AM2R. I all but vowed to avoid supporting their first-party shit then. The fact that all their games got way worse didn't help either.

I felt like you did for a while, tired and disappointed, but that turned to anger and rage after a time.

Iwata did all he could I believe, but he was a single man with a board of directors and people to please, and he could only resist industry trends in the face of overwhelming cash and money-grabbings. The Sm4sh DLC was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for Nintendo's integrity in regards to that sort of thing, and the paid online thing is just an insulting icing on the cake.

Some of my greatest times came from Nintendo games, IPs, or Nintendo-published games. Fire Emblem 7, Link to the Past, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Darkness, etc.

It sucks that they've become so… mediocre, but ironically it feels like the whole industry has become even worse cancer in the span of the past 9 months. Its frankly incredible.

>Steam and Sony's censorship crusades

>All the AAAs doing such cancerous schemes that they're collapsing

>Microsoft being general failures as usual (I don't think they've done anything, but that's been the story of their gaming division for the past 6 years anyways aside from a few bad cancellations like Scalebound)

Nintendo has had it's ups and downs just like every other developer that has made a good game at one point. Nothing is as black and white as you make it out to be. That having been said I might have a slightly different opinion than you because, despite buying Nintendo consoles, I tend to pirate most of my games on those systems. I think this allows me to make more objective views on a game, rather than having buyers remorse and either defending the game or shitting on it irrationally. Take BotW for example, while your average user of /v/ would say the game's shit, I feel like most people who actually played it on /v/ would say mechanically the game is all there, it's just the actual game design isn't. And really, I think that's the problem with most modern video games. They're getting to be too huge to manage everything effectively, even with modern software development techniques. Something doesn't quite click, really. Then again, if you're an incompetent developer (Game Freak) you can fuck everything up anyway, or if you're hypercompetent (HAL) you can usually get away with it. Although even in HAL's case it's clear they didn't finish Kirby Star Allies, although the updates are nice they don't really fix the framerate issues. I guess another problem with the Switch is Nintendo is trying to put every game on it as quickly as possible and that might pay off, but it doesn't bode well for the longer lifetime. Take the Wii, what even came out for it after Mario Galaxy 2 and DKCR? And the Wii lasted two more fucking years, pretty much. I don't think Nintendo is really in a bad position at the moment, at best they're as incompetent as they've been for the last 15 years at least. While you're probably correct that maybe they're going in a worse direction, I don't quite see it yet. However with a new president things could go very wrong, so I'd be cautious. I guess what I'm saying is play video games you like, and try ones you think you'd like. Also, if you haven't, play The Wonderful 101. You can probably get a Wii U for like 12 bucks because nobody fucking wants them, plus all you need is an eShop game to hack any Wii U. I don't know if CEMU will work well with Wonderful 101 due to the gamepad segments and CEMU becoming a BotW emulator. I'm not sure how much sense this makes but whatever.

Nintendo is unforgivable, if only because of how actively they attempt to destroy any and all fan content that could provide competition or alternative sources of entertainment.

Yup. Grew up with the NES, then got into Pokemon for 10+ years. Then they killed the series with Pokebank, and burned the ashes with the cancer that was US / UM. Not to mention them going after all the fan remakes etc…

>>16012817

If someone was truly competition or an alternative source of entertainment. They would have done so with an original idea

>le ebin nintendoomed thread - concern troll edition

They're doing quite a bit better than the competition at the moment.

>>16012847

wow you're a brave hipster with undeniable shit taste.

>>16012853

Why do you have to be so TAHXIC?

I was pretty disillusioned when they kinda just pretended Wii U never even happened. Switch is to the Wii U what the Wii was to the Gamecube, where it seems to have sort of hypnosis effect on casuals where it's like they forgot Nintendo existed for ten whole years since the last time they released a console.

>>16012853

I'll take having shit taste over pretending to have acceptable™ taste just to fit in.

>>16012858

This. I ignored the Wii because the wagglan and stomping on a dance pad don't feel like videogames to me, but I was tentatively interested in the Wii U. After seeing some decent games come out I figured the developers had finally started to figure out how to make good games for it and I finally caved and bought on off craigslist… like two weeks before they announced the Switch. Fuck you, Nintendo.

>>16012790

Pretty much this.

>>16012865

One of the things that always really bugged me is that the Wii U gamepad just isn't very good aesthetically, but no one has ever bothered to make a custom shell for it since everyone thought Nintendo would just make a newer, smaller model eventually. Well, we see how that turned out…

>>16012847

sorry to hear about your incurable faggotry.

I don't buy into brand loyalty or anything, but eighth gen on has been a mix of lack of decent third party that are properly exclusive when it's come to my tangential interest (no WiiU or Switch here, and I wouldn't have a 3DS if a friend didn't give me their old one). Which to be fair, isn't just a problem Nintendo has; Microsoft and Sony do as well, ever since things started getting so multiplat heavy (well, noticeably heavier, even compared to sixth gen) in seventh gen. I mean, sure, you can get games on more systems, but it's harder to answer the question of which is personally worth buying to access them, if not just pirating for PC/whatever's got more convenient hacks. Doesn't help either that the big three are all fucking the customer on multiple fronts, be it censorship (I know Sony's considered the big shitter but I still don't trust NoA after the 3DS/WiiU era), attempts at spying/data collection, paid online when you already pay for your internet, etc.

Seventh gen was better for than this (handhelds at least faring better than consoles; DS had a pretty good library, if one buried under shovelware, to which I don't consider the 3DS' to compare to), and sixth gen better still. And I still keep my modded Wii around for emulation, Gamecube, and the handful Wii games were of actual personal interest.

>>16012776

Remember when Pokémon animations had distinct effort put into them? When even shitmons all have unique animations for attacks they normally shouldn't even be able to use (like Unown all with their own physical attack animations)? Or details like every Pokemon with Mega Kick in Stadium having a unique animation for it?

Detail like that doesn't happen these days.

>>16012765

>Disillusioned/Tired Nintendo Fans

make your own fangames but stay anonymous so nintendo yakuza can't get you

>>16012776

This so fucking much, not to mention how they strip beloved features from games that everyone loved. I understand wanting everygame to be unique in some ways, but there was a decent amount of features that should of stuck. Like Battle Frontier, Contests, Pokemon able to follow you, and the device that gave you the ability to rebattle trainers. I am forgetting a few more things but you know what I mean. Also, for how long have fans wanted a difficulty option? Especially of recent as the games get more and more dumbed down. Kids today are as retarded as we where then, so I highly doupt they couldn't adapt to the difficulty (not that the older games where that hard anyway, but where certainly challenging at times). I am so fustrated with the series I am done, and glad because Pokemon Let's Go looks like two steps forward l, 10 steps back once again.

I don't know if it's just me growing older, but Nintendo games have been very lacklustre lately. Mario Odyssey was okay but nothing amazing like others have been spouting. The last Nintendo game that made me feel hooked was BotW, but even that has a lot of noticable flaws. To me Nintendo in the past 10 years has been like this: they release a bunch of mainline mediocre games, but every once in a while there's that one game that gives you a sense of wonder and novelty and I remember why Nintendo keeps me coming back.

Last year in particular was atrocious though. As someone who doesn't really give two shits about Smash, I find it almost unforgivable that they released nothing put Wii U ports in the first half of 2018 and then just expected Smash to tide people over for the rest of the year. With their focus on mobile gaming I can't see it getting any better. Metroid Prime 4 is the only thing I have any hope for because, let's be honest, we all know Pokemon is going to be shit and lazy as usual.

N64 was the death knell of Nintendo. It was the point where everything I liked about Nintendo went to shit and they went into a death spiral from which they never recovered. It and every system they made after it has been absolute shit. Never again did they have the same penchant for quality that they had when the Super Nintendo came out. Every system afterwards was just a shovelware machine.

>>16012809

>Nintendo

>not censorship

Hypocrite.

>>16013703

Nah the death knell for nintendo was in 1963 when they decided to move from playing cards to all kinds of toys.

From then it was inevitable they would get in to electronic toys which is obviously when everything went to shit.

I would say the start of Nintendo's descent would be the Wii. Why? It broke expectations of recurring of "'series gets a new console sequel for new console hardware''' for the fans. Obviously your Mario, Zelda got sequels continuing on from a line unbroken from the NES but that line would end for many other series.

>SNES: F-Zero, Starfox

>N64: Wave Race, 1080, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis WR did technically start on Game Boy, but we're going with console sequels

It can't be denied that there was other new console series/revivals during the Wii era like Wii Sports/Fit/Play/Music or Punch Out or Sin & Punishment or Excite Truck/Bots/Bike, but the the lack of those middle tier series really pissed off fans considering that many of them still don't have original entires after a decade.

>>16013520

>Especially of recent as the games get more and more dumbed down. Kids today are as retarded as we where then, so I highly doupt they couldn't adapt to the difficulty (not that the older games where that hard anyway, but where certainly challenging at times).

Reading interviews with Masuda, the problem with Pokemon seems to be the fear that if a kid gets stuck, they stop playing and never buy another Pokemon game again, so the games challenge is reduced.

Obviously when the first game came out they didn't know what would be difficult or not for players. I did the dumb thing of going through Rock Tunnel without HM Flash.

>>16013297

The only reason GF gets away with it is that game journalists either don't remember Stadium series/never played them so they don't compare the two animation battle styles and don't mention it in their reviews as a negative.

Also Hal Lab/EAD did Stadium while Genuis Sorority did Coliseum/Battle Revolution so GF never did those animations.

Its called growing up faggot

>>16013366

Nope. Just make your own games with your own IPs. No need to parasite off of Nintendo when you know you can do it better.

>>16013297

A damn shame the effort has dropped off so much in newer games

>>16013716

What are you talking about?

>>16013765

>I did the dumb thing of going through Rock Tunnel without HM Flash.

Did you make a map on paper too?

>>16013765

>I did the dumb thing of going through Rock Tunnel without HM Flash.

That dungeon isn't even that complicated to actually make any pokemon learn flash.

>>16013297

I wish that the Stadium games didn't die. Battle Revolution was really fun.

I bought a Switch to play Smash and I'm regretting it as much as I regret buying a 3DS in 2013 to play the Hoenn remake that hadn't been announced at that point. Omega Ruby ended up being a soulless, barren cashgrab.

Smash has beautiful animations and feels great to play, but a massive dearth of content. If you don't want to play online, you have little to do – and in a game that automatically sorts you with bad players if you want to have fun and screw around with characters you don't know, there's little incentive to experiment. You can't even switch characters between matches against the same opponent, which I find incredibly annoying.

Kirby, which is difficult to do poorly, delivered a short and clearly rushed entry in Star Allies. The campaign only takes a couple of hours and the game is completely centered around the unbalanced team system. It's only a minor step up from the entirely forgettable Rainbow Curse. Robobot was fun, but given all the shovelware the team has put out I'm rapidly losing faith in their ability to produce another fun platformer.

Breath of the Wild is a classic example of a game with massive potential that completely under-delivers. There's a lot of interesting mechanics and ideas that are overshadowed by the mediocre effort put into the plot and the infuriating durability system. I've heard people use the old metaphor of 'wide as an ocean, deep as puddle,' and having just beaten the game, I completely agree. Speaking as someone that picked up Okami HD and finally sat down to play through it in its entirety, the sheer level of detail and interesting shit they crammed into that game left me feeling awestruck by how low standards have gotten. I'm blown away that people can consider BotW a 10/10.

All of this doesn't touch on their poor online service and how shit it is. I don't feel like the Switch is wasted money since it's given me the opportunity to play lots of ports like Okami and a good chunk of the Megaman games, but it's not delivering solid first-party titles. Well, aside from Mario Odyssey, I guess, but I've never been one for 3D Mario.

>>16012765

With Nintendo going after all these ROM sites, ROMhacks and fan games, I'm never going to fucking give them a red cent ever again. Fuck Nintendo.

>>16012776

Pokemon is a children's game, anon. You're no longer a child, and you've already had the experience. Besides, XY was good

>>16013739

Yeah it's 95%+ shit now. But it's OK because you're too old for vidya now anyways. Take the self-aware adult pill.

>>16017057

Ignore him, he's the blackpill fag fishing for (You)s.

Is there any series out their that hasn't gotten worse as time has gone on?

>>16016597

>>16016607

Didn't make a map only maps I'm made for games are REmake and Metroid 2:RoS and seemed like I could see the outlines of walls on the GB screen and just followed them to force my way to the exit.

I think part of the reason why I even brute forced my way through this was because I was at hospital and had to do a lot of waiting and was just occupying my time.

>>16017057

It really depends on your levels of ambition. Putting in that kind of time you're unlikely to change your station in life much and probably doomed to /wageslave/ life and probably have an atrophied cardiovascular system. At least you're playing the platforms most likely to give you an interesting or novel experience.

>>16012777

other consoles have SOME games

switch has only zelda and some shitty dark souls or doom ports

>>16018663

>(1)

>>16018763

There is no difference. Except that vidya is actually interactive so it's a better way to spend your time.

Most social norms aren't really thought through.

>>16017722

>I could see the outlines of walls on the GB screen and just followed them to force my way to the exit.

It really does make me feel better know I wasn't the only retard that did that. It seemed like if I held my screen at an angle I could clearly see the outline of the walls and just stumbled my way through.

>>16019876

>Turn 29 next week

>Almost $5,000 CDN and 200 oz silver saved up

>No debt

>>16020035

>Nintendo will never be as good as in the 8/16 bit era

No one will. Their games are still good, I enjoyed botw and mk8.

>>16019931

Not really much to con considering that is 8 years worth of living expenses, not including the tuition and materials. Been living threadbare and on a shoestring budget since 2011. Post-navy scholarship grants helped out in undergrad, but now I'm completely on my own.

nintendos still inspiring the best hentai

>>16019876

>100k in debt

Jesus christ just fake your death at this point

>>16012776

GameFreak is a lot like Sakurai. If you play something like Drill Dozer, or Pulseman, you'll see that they're capable of way more than they do. I think that Nintendo's suits continued pigeon holing of them has led to them not caring about their games anymore. I also compare them to Sakurai, because if you compare Smash to Kid Icarus Uprising, it's clear that man is shackled to his series, when he, and everyone else, would be better off if he did his own thing. Same goes for GameFreak.

I didn't bring up Harmoknight because quite frankly, I thought it was shit, but it's still a polished experience at least.

>>16021150

So like Sonic Team?

>>16021185

>with a reputation equated to that of disney

what the fuck does that even mean?

>>16021120

the only time youll get any love back is from indie developers but all memesters ever do is shit on them

>>16021231

He's histrionic, don't give him any attention.

>>16021185

You will NOT get away with disrespecting Nintendo's good name on Mark's /v/, asshole. I'm dead fucking serious, this will not stand. We're on /v/ and here on /v/ we TONGUE NINTENDO'S ASSHOLE. Reported, faggot.

>>16021529

oh but dicussing video games and why you arent allowing yourself to play them isnt a giant waste of time

>>16021584

Mario Kart 8 is my favorite Switch exclusive.

>>16021767

>All those "games"

>Good

>>16013297

Battle Revolution was really underwhelming, but it has arguably the best 3D models/animations of any Pokemon game. I was disappointed when the models/animations in X/Y ranged from okay to garbage.

>>16013520

>>16013765

>>16016597

>>16017722

>>16018906

I did Rock Tunnel without Flash too. It wasn't obvious how to get it, but it wasn't impossible without it. On the topic of stupid shit, my friend convinced me when FR/LG came out that that one of the added features was that if you bought the bike instead of using the voucher you'd get a Mach Bike like in Ruby/Sapphire. Thankfully in my FireRed save I already had the bike and didn't want to worry about restarting for it. I still believed it though and when I got LeafGreen I abused the nugget exploit on the bridge above Cerulean to get free money. After finally deciding to actually look this up and confirm it was fake, I had already made about 600,000. I was still too cheap to spend it unless needed.

>not stopping at the Dreamcast and waiting for the next SEGA console

>ever buying nintendont

plebs

>>16022745

Splatoon is decent, I'll give you that. Pokemon gen 6 was shit, and gen 7 looked promising at the start, like maybe they'd pivot into telling decent stories, but then it fell into all the same old traps in the ultra editions. Let's go was shit, but it's not a mainline game, so not all hope is lost. With Masuda gone, the future is up in the air. We need to wait and see how gen 8 turns out before passing judgment there I think. The latest Mario game is one of the best imo, they seemed to have recaptured what people liked with 64 and sunshine, I'm hopeful the next game will improve on it further. Saying it's "doomed" is a bit ridiculous. Zelda BOTW was also quite good. After years of being criticized for repeating the same formula, they tried something new, and it fit pretty well. But, BOTW still had a shitload of shortcomings. The next release isn't a shoe-in for being good, but the outlook is better than it was after the release of say, Skyward Sword. AC doesn't need to do much tbh. I don;t have much to say about it. We'll see how it goes. Now, SSBU I have a lot to say about. While I don't believe it was rushed, nor do I believe it's meant to be a final celebration of the franchise, nonw of that matters in terms of what it means for the series direction. Despite some people saying it's just smash 4.5 because it shares a similar artstyle, it plays very differently, has combos again, has brought back some of the old tech, and generally just plays faster than the two games that came before it. A merging of modern smash with melee esque mechanics was what the series needed, and that's the direction we're headed in. Anywho, I only really wanted to reply to the first bit of your post. The rest seems pretty fuckin dumb. Well whatever. Don't align yourself with any brand, and don't assume the future is going to be shit when you haven't been there

>>16021561

Of course it is. I come here now and again to see if things have turned around yet in the industry and to get non-cucked recs. And I wouldn't claim to be a paragon anyways.

>>16022745

>This is only on the level of video games, imagine applying these thoughts in a grander, real world sense. Everything is safe, there's no need to be unique, pioneer, strike out or innovate. The system will try to crush you, either directly or indirectly.

The answer is to physically remove jews from our countries.

>>16012765

Reported for console war shit, sonygger

>>16022787

>Saying it's "doomed" is a bit ridiculous.

Maybe I should clarify a bit. "Doomed" in the sense that it'll keep existing because the formula is loved and has already been refined and all you can do is tweak it . It's fate is sealed. If a degree of volatility is what you want, you aren't going to get much of that from Dragon Quest or Mario. You're probably going to get a good game though. I'm glad Odyssey exists because it's the closest thing I'm getting to a new Banjo and Kazooie and was fun to play. Maybe it's because I played all the other 3D Mario games I wasn't very impressed by it. Just impressed. Mario 64, OoT impressed me greatly.

Next couple of years are going to be interesting for Nintendo, all we have in the future that is a complete mystery is Prime 4 and most of their main IPs are already out. 3DS is nothing more than a cash flow from cheap parents for the rest of it's life. I'm hoping for more new/revisited IPs from them and I'm expecting them to shy away from any more attempts to innovate at Iwata levels and to just become a "good developer and platform that sells" and nothing else. We'll see. Labo and ARMS didn't wow me and Switch doesn't have much in experimental games when compared to both Wiis and DSes. Though the audacity of using cardboard does impress me.

>>16022896

Giving yourself limitations is a great way to get creative, so I like this. I'll give it a look.

>>16023536

> I'm glad Odyssey exists because it's the closest thing I'm getting to a new Banjo and Kazooie

What? It's like saying Sonic Mania is the closest thing you'll get to a good 2D Mario. The two are similar in only the most surface-level of comparisons.

<Banjo

>a slow, clunky collectathon

>has big spread out worlds

>jumps being quite slow and short

>moveset is limited

>platforming is more horizontal than vertical

<Mario

>quick and fast paced if you want it to be

>worlds are small with a lot of shit to find

>jumps let you get anywhere if you're good

>moveset is very versatile, except for Galaxy because it's shit

>platforming is more vertical than horizontal

I don't think it's much of an exaggeration to say that Odyssey in particular, with the weight and height of Mario's jumps, feels like Banjo running at double speed. Something like A Hat in Time, or, of course, Yooka Laylee, is closer to Banjo. The only game I can easily compare Odyssey to is Mario 64, since very few platformers let you get that speed and versatility, while still being free. Spyro can be fast, but the gliding is slow, and the platforming is heavily horizontal.

>>16021166

Yes, absolutely. Honestly a ton of studios in the industry are shackled to franchises they don't care about. We've named three, I'm sure people can keep coming up with more.

>>16021529

In the audio for this, the kid bought the playstation with his own money and the dad is smashing it because they are being too loud. Just thought I'd explain to anyone who is curious.

Nintendo philosophy, make a really good game, then just remake it on every system with a few graphical tweaks and game play changes. Reviews will cuck out at 10/10

>>16013739

I wonder what this song is called.

>>16024138

He would probably happy and decently wealthy if he were a plumber right now, anon.

>>16024152

I'm not knocking the job, but that's some lame ass shit for a kid to want. Like even if he liked fixing things and problem solving he didn't even want to make space craft or hot rod cars or anything?

>>16024156

It's called not being a delusional autist.

>>16022896

>constraints may be just what developers need to unleash real creativity

>>16023536

>Giving yourself limitations is a great way to get creative

There's definitely something to the idea of using limitation when designing anything. I remember seeing 3 guys struggle to come up with a level for Little Big Planet with all the tools they had and then just made a giant glass incline to ride the skateboard down which still fucked up because they didn't smooth out one little bump. Alternatively maybe this instance was too many cooks in the kitchen struggling to work together. It probably the reason why Mario Maker limited how many parts you could start with while slowly unlocking more.

>>16022745

>>16024317

Considering Nintendo once per console mentality, Splatoon 3 will be for the next console. The AC/Splatoon dev team are mostly the same bunch. It won't be denied that S2 was just a refined S1 for Switch and didn't really try to "break" new ground like Nintendo seems to demand for their sequels and was probably done by Nintendo realizing that it was a faster option to get a refined S1 version of S2 out in the first 4 months from Switch launch then having longer dev cycle for a more "innovative" Splatoon.

So assuming that the AC/Splatoon team is now shifting focus over to AC Switch (and it's post release support) while probably trying to prototype new ideas for a Splatoon 3 when they have more years to do so before the next Nintendo console.

I've bought every nintendo console since the GC, but with my switch, i've barely used it at all. It might be my own general disillusionment with gaming, but I don't think I'm motivated to play nintendo's games anymore

>>16024454

That depends on if Nintendo decides to extend the Switch cycle to 15 years with hardware upgrades every three years instead usual 5ish. I recall Nintendo implying something like that in an interview of sorts. Although I don't remember the source.

>>16025937

>family friendly,

*child rape friendly :^)

>>16012765

that's what you get for worshipping a corporation faggot

>>16012777

can't fucking wait

>>16024117

What's stopping you from going to a trade school now and becoming a plumber or learning some other trade?

>>16012776

Pokemon fans don't want anything new in the games. Go ahead and suggest changes to the combat or any other mechanics and watch the sperging and excuses roll in.

>>16032556

the reality is that Pokemon is a bloated mess and one of the few franchises that probably needs a hard reboot (I feel like LGPE was a soft attempt at this) to get things back on track, but the issue with rebooting is that you will piss off absolutely everyone so they have to keep trucking adding dumb shit gimmicks every gen and bloat the pokemon roster to the point it's unsustainable while keeping everything else stagnant.

>>16032736

competitiveniggers and kids will get angry, and thats really all gamefreak has left when the GO fad dries out

>>16032736

So basically there is no way to save pokemon now.

>>16021584

Sunset Overdrive is on PC, so it's not even exclusive anymore.

I love indie pixelshit so Switch aka Portstation Vita 2.0 is the perfect system for me.

It's your own damn fault if you expected ninty to put in any effort all of a sudden after the last 10 years.

>>16012765

Use your Illusions. EZ

>>16021739

>Left 4 dead 2

>Super Smash Bros For Wii U

>Saints Row 2

those are horseshit and monster hunter is just stupid grinding but the rest you posted is patrician taste

Welcome to the club.

>>16021739

None of those are good games.

>>16016149

>Nope. Just make your own games with your own IPs. No need to parasite off of Nintendo when you know you can do it better.

But the point of making fangames is using established characters that you like, it's not just about the game mechanics.

>>16024117

My mother always told me that if I wanted to I could get into a trade. But that's probably because her dad was a plumber, and she knew it was practical and could make pretty good money. Of course, her brother is an engineer who also makes a ton of money, so she knew the value of college as well. So naturally my youngest sister went to college for acting (and screenwriting which if she doesn't kill herself is probably where she'll end up), my younger brother got into programming but failed to graduate because he couldn't pass Calculus 2 for some reason (he's still working on a monster girl tactics game without a name, I'll have to shill it one of these days), and I've been completely aimless for almost 10 years at this point and am getting into statistics because that seems like something I'm good at that I don't hate 200%. Not sure where it all went wrong.

I'm glad someone else feels this way. I like shitpost about nintendo a lot, especially about their fans, but it's only because I used to be all about them. I chugged the soy hardcore, and defended shit like NSMB.

When I became disillusioned to them, I didn't feel angry or some shit, I was just really disappointed in myself for giving a part of my being to a souless megacorp. It's very silly looking back on it, and it's why I make fun of their fans now; you gotta be injecting soylent or some shit to still defend them.

Nintendo games might still be better than the others by process of elimination, but that doesn't mean you should still play them.

>>16012790

Of course, but Nintendo has a sort of cult around it. Those other companies might have fans, they might have hyper autists, but they'll never have the grip Nintendo has on certain audience.

>>16053931

>they'll never have the grip Nintendo has

Spend 5 minutes on neoGAF if you want to see what actual corporate worship looks like. Ninty has some real autistic fans, but aside from the typical shitflinging on forums there's no cult. There's no gathering or erratic silencing of dissent. Only on gaf will you find a forum that will ban you for disliking a console/company.

Bowsette and Booette got more enthusiasm out of me than any of Nintendo's releases since the Wii.

>>16054908

Star Shitizen is tadpole tier in comparison to the university meme.

>>16053931

Feel a similar way, Nintendo has quite a few issues and while their fans will voice there anger at them, they don't really band together to actually take a stand against them (like a signed petition against Switch's paid online for instance). The more tech progresses around them, the further the company seems to get left behind dragging it's knuckles (especially in online matters). While they understand what "fun" is they seem to have a real problem trying to sell some of their new IP (ARMS) or not trying to launch "cheap looking" games like 1-2 Switch or Labo at lower price points.

The company really needs more western owned developers (like Retro) to provide a higher output of western style exclusive games because their Japanese studios can't keep up.

>>16054903

>When was the last game to get an expansion pack a year after release and then a gold/complete edition after that?

>When was the last time a dev didn't announce DLC before the game was even released?

>When was the last time after the game was released (and a sales success) that DLC was announced but not being able to show anything or a release date because the devs had just started work on it?

>>16055885

>Meme ross

>>>Reddit

>>16055928

> Posting a picture of Bob Ross is Reddit

How does it feel to be a miserable cunt?

>>16055885

Use the Mutual app and land a nice Mormon girl.

>>16012765

>the Switch forgos all the gimmicks the Wii and Wii U had

Just some of them, it even adds in a few things, the split controller means that Nintendo know that everyone who owns the platform has at least two controllers, they also have HD rumble which allows for finer force feedback, allowing games to tell players direction and depth just through rumble, an underused features but a feature that holds value, the Switch also keeps features that do hold value like gyro. That said the Switch actually has one major failure in it's design relative to this, the Switch should have had the functionality to stream video to the Switch dock like a reverse WiiU, this would have given it WiiU's core functionality out of the box, and it would have made it so that every Switch has the functionality for 1 vs 2 asymmetrical gameplay

For me the Switch is the perfect concept for a console, Consoles have continued to become more and more useless as time goes on, but the Switch at it's core gives me functionality that my PC doesn't have, and that's great to see. That said it's been a disappointment so far, the first year was fine but outside of that it's been nothing but a waste of money. The Switch was sold as Nintendo's only platform, and developers even mentioned that it would be the only target for both their home and handheld arms, which leaves a lot of promise for a potential first/second party library, but this hasn't happened, and it doesn't look like this will ever happen. The Switch right now when discounting

I agree that things are disappointing but not entirely in the same way.

>paid online sucks, and I refuse to pay

>there are some control systems that should have been pulled forwards

>third party support is complete shit, most third parties don't see the switch as a real platform and the support that the switch does get are indies found on every other platform, ports of phone games with micro transactions removed, ports of games from a generation or two ago with better versions on other platforms, lazily cut down ports of games from other platforms that look and run like shit but not in the right ways

>nintendo are focusing too much on mobile games

>first party support is less than what was available in the last generation which makes no sense given that the switch has most 3ds devs on it and studios that supported the wiiu had problems adapting to hd development

If I was the sort of person who sold games/consoles My Switch would be long gone, and considering the delay of Metroid Prime 4, I wouldn't call it a bad decision.

>>16058595

Really the problem to me is it feels rushed out of the gate as we start to see the same sort of shit the 3ds had going on for its early stages. 3rd parties though are starting to pick it up in the laziest of ways unfortunately. Now since sony is completely fucking with devs in every way possible it looks like it'll get a nice boom soonish. if only they could pull their head out of their ass and get their dev teams working better again. The restructuring of r&d 1-2 into just one big group seems to have some unforeseen consequences my biggest gripe of which is the loss of that personal touch of style for example the latest warioware. It really really is just not the same.

>>16058798

You forgot Dawn of War 3

>>16012790

Sega (with the possible exception of Sonic Team) has actually been doing pretty good and is even listening to the non-tumblr fans (hell even Sonic Team is doing it despite the lackluster elements of Forces). Every other company has gone full retard though.

>>16058762

The Switch was definitely rushed, but I don't believe that a successor will see any of the Switch's problems fixed, even though Nvidia's Tegra chips are actually very far ahead, and the only ones they are showing appear to be car based, which perhaps means that they are working on a discrete tablet one with an aim towards performance at a low power consumption, that's more wishful thinking though.

>3rd parties though are starting to pick it up in the laziest of ways unfortunately

Fuck third party Switch support, third parties are just using it as a port dumping ground, and indies are treating it like a gold rush, the Switch has well over 1000 games right now and almost all of them are pasionless cash grabs which hold no value, either ports with no real effort put in them that release months after they did on other platforms, ports from a decade ago, ports of phone games with microtransactions removed, or indie games that are on all other platforms but miraculously sell well on the Switch. I think Dragon Quest XI S is the only port to Switch which was actually well handled, models were remade for the Switch version, and the game itself saw strong optimization for Switch hardware, on top of that they are adding new features exclusive to S. The state of Third parties on Switch isn't just the fault of third parties though, Nintendo have a hand in this, they need to be firmer with the way they treat them, things like that Ark port should have never happened, Capcom shouldn't have been able to do a re-release of Street Fighter 2 for Switch while holding onto a better compilation for all platforms the next year, and Indies shouldn't be doing a repeat of Atari/Steam, in fact that was one of the things Nintendo used to be hard on, but have relaxed it to the point where they are just shitting up their own platform.

>Now since sony is completely fucking with devs in every way possible it looks like it'll get a nice boom soonish

I doubt that, we've only seen Omega labyrinth and a few others move over, many IPs are staying with PS4, even though developers are admitting to censorship, the next mainline Senran Kagura is still a PS4 exclusive even though the game is still a while off launching. All that said NoA exist and I don't trust them to not push for censorship of these games in the future.

>>16058798

>Granted they're doing a lot better as of recent

Are they, their premiere development team are stuck making annual Yakuza titles, and many of their IPs are locked away never to be seen again, this includes re-releases, Sega Ages focuses on just re-releasing their top sellers instead of bringing us niche IPs like Panzer Dragoon, Skies of Arcadia, or the myriad of other Sega IPs that have been no shows for more than a decade, on top of this many titles published by Sega are or will be good irrelevant of Sega, like Endless Space 2 or Bayonetta 3.

I'm kind of glad I don't care about Sega anymore, or else it would be painful to see another publisher with a good stable of IPs waste them.

>>16058798

>Losing the fucking source code for games like Jet Set Radio Future among others.

Wasn't it the case that Sega would destroy their own source codes due to fears of other companies getting their hands on them?

>>16012765

>the Switch abandons any pretense of innovation/gimmick

What are you talking about here? To be the whole concept is a gimmick

>it's a handheld

>but the controls detach so it can be a big screen console

>comes with two controllers that can be used as one controller

Pretty novel and well-executed if you ask me. I'd put money on Sony and Microsoft copying the idea soon

>>16012776

LGPE is the biggest disappointment from Nintendo this gen, the lack of animations and detail is fucking pathetic.

>>16019971

Yeah, but if we don't get a better government in, $5000 is going to be worthless. Good luck getting a job here too, our cities have no work.

I JUST WANT ADVANCED WARS

I JUST WANT A GOOD PAPER MARIO

I JUST WANT GOLDEN SUN

I JUST WANT A STAR FOX OR YOSHI GAME WITHOUT FUCKING GIMMICKS

>>16017057

Motherfucker you are too old for vidya and imageboards, it's time to let go.

>>16019876

Well you cheered me up. I thought my life was shitty, no wonder you spend 8+ fucking hours playing vidya.

I'm sorry anon, you do you.

>>16012765

Not really, but I did like Starfox because rail shooters can be really fun.

> Starfox is okay, controls suck but good sprite work and unique presentation

> Starfox 2 almost never released, but basically Starfox 1.5

> Starfox 64 is great

> Starfox comes to Gamecube, all suck by all accounts

> Starfox DS, sucks

> Starfox port is 64 so meh

> Starfox Zero is Starfox 64 but more complicated, controls suck

My hope was snuffed out long ago.

>>16075021

Did you play Yoshi's Woolly World or know about the upcoming Crafted World? They weren't that gimmicky, right?

>>16024156

Wanting to be a plumber as a kid doesn't come from a lack of ambition or creativity. Kids aren't born with any concept of stigma, they just want to be something purely because it fascinates them. Comparatively, the kids that said generic things like "I want to be an ASTRONAUT", or "I want to be a DOCTOR" seem uninspired; like they're just blurting out whatever job looks the moast ebin.

>>16075937

You said it yourself dude, just because being an astronaut or a doctor is ebin doesn't make it any less fascinating. I remember when I was a kid I was super autistic about everything space and deep down I desired to be an astronaut. I used to read cross section books of space shuttles and memorise solar-system trivia for days on end. I probably drove my parents up the fucking wall. Most professions related to space travel are geniunely fascinating, just because it's a common dream doesn't make it less legitimate.

It's the kids who say they want to be the president that I disdain. They always grew up to be assholes in my experience.

>>16075957

You're right, I didn't mean to say that a common aspiration is lesser per se, just that my impression is that there's less thought behind it (generally).

sage for off-topic

>>16012765

>The Switch feels like a bitter-sweet event. On one hand, it seems to have sparked some great games from them, and they finally have capable third party support. On the other, the Switch forgos all the gimmicks the Wii and Wii U had, the wii-mote aiming and dual screen. While you can say these were gimmicks, they had potential to be used right and did get used properly in some games. The Wii U's death in particular I always found to be cruel as the touch screen never got a chance to prove it's worth despite the DS line proving that it could bring about unique gameplay designs. And now, with the death of the DS line, it seems dual-screen games like Kirby Canvas Curse, Etrian Odyssey, and others are dead in the water, at least in their current form. The fact that the Switch abandons any pretense of innovation/gimmick feels like an admission of defeat. This along with the paid-online, the slaughtering of many of their franchises (Smash looks like it's going to be a shill-fest of third party characters, many franchises are getting the mobile treatment which means certain death, other franchises receive sudden or unjust deaths and likely will remain in such a state, and those that don't, well fuck look at the state of Fire Emblem and Pokemon.) And then, just as the icing on the cake, soyboys swarm and make themselves diehard Nintendo fans. They can't tell you the name of any franchise that isn't in Smash (unless it's a highly requested character like Isaac) but damn if they won't tell you their favorite Earthbound-inspired RPG while buying 50 "hidden gems" SNES games they'll never play or care about.

I agree. I always found Switch to focus more on convenience than on innovation. I really can't see how the selling point of being able to play home console games on the go, or the Joy-Con's usage is innovative. The former's been done with the PSP/Go and Vita (although these played games tailor-made for them as they were handheld systems) and Sega's Nomad. It's not even a true handheld system by design as the 3DS is, since the handheld mode is just supposed to be serviceable. It's too big, wide and clumsy to hold, but it works, very much like a laptop. This really goes back to the Eurogamer leak from 2016. At first, I was intrigued and very much ectastic about playing something like Mario Kart that looked just like 8 on a portable system, but then I realized, and asked myself "what's so special about it?", since the PSP tried to be something similar (power similar to PS2). I didn't even see the big thing with sharing the Joy-Con to another player. That's convienient, but nothing else.

Back then, I was worried that based on Eurogamer's crappy wording, that it'd be marketed as a handheld system with a TV-out, but thankfully they didn't because they know the opposite would sell much more to the consumer/normalfag. Now, I agree with you as well in regards to the Wii U. I think it's a great little system and I appreciate it a lot. I really enjoyed playing on it and viewed it with my eyes as a consumer, not as an enthusiast. So I focused only on the games and not about the marketing, support and sales that plagued it. I think the GamePad could've been just as breathtaking (and it is, compared to Switch's "gimmicks"), but they really failed to capitalize on it (hello Star Fox Zero). While I can certainly see as the Wii U as a mere result of arrogance and screaming as a corporate product, since I remember Kimishima saying that Nintendo thought they'd sell 100 million Wii U consoles just because the Wii sold well, it's the actually Switch that I view as such. Expensive accessories, nothing that stands out besides the form factor, early announcements of games people have been dying for, paid online, etc. I view it as the manifestation of greed fueled by anti-consumerism. Maybe I'm exaggerating and I am, but that's how I view the Switch. As a consumer, I like the Wii U better, but perhaps a result of it is because I got it two years in its lifecycle, during a time in which its library was shaping up. Switch isn't terrible, but beyond sales and marketing, which is the only thing it excels at, there's very little to look forward to.

>>16012765

>Anyone else here is/was a Nintendo fan, but just depressed with the state (or rather, the direction) they're going in?

They're the least cucked of the three remaining hardware manufacturers at least. That's still not great but it's literally Nintendo or abandon consoles altogether and I hate pixelshit indie games so I can't.

>>16057644

>everyone who voted for Trump regrets it

>>>/leftypol/

>>16075436

I can't remember a time when a leak was right about anything Nintendo has done. Getting a leak from Gamestop implies that Gamestop has the information to begin with and they probably don't. Nintendo holds onto this shit and is very good at not letting any of it slip.

>>16083021

I don't know how to feel about this though. Hopefully it means something?

>>16100055

>I can't remember a time when a leak was right about anything Nintendo has done. Getting a leak from Gamestop implies that Gamestop has the information to begin with and they probably don't. Nintendo holds onto this shit and is very good at not letting any of it slip.

Nintendo are a nip company. That means a job for life if you toe the line. What idiot would risk that for the tiny buzz you'd get from leaking something?

>>16100092

Don't start your cuckchan consolewars here newfriend.

Somewhat relevant. Is it worth getting a Wii today? I can get one from Ebay for about 50€ with all the controllers and such. Since piracy is so easy on them I'm just wondering why the hell not. I also want to play some Gamecube games. You can load GC games on a hacked Wii right?

>>16021767

>RPGs

Anon, those are not games.