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>>16011272

Play Demise: Rise of the Ku'tan (or Ascension) right now. Casual combat + absolutely fucking brutal long term party development. Think M&M6 + Wizardry taken to the utmost limit.

>>16011272

I really miss The Dark Spire. I traded it in during my foolish youth because of what I thought was excessive grind and ball crushing difficulty, but I should have just got gud. One of favourite OST's of all time despite never finishing it. The only game I might bother emulating honestly.

Wizardry 7 and 8 are basically Might and Magic on steroids.

>spolier

Well fuck you too, melonhead.

>>16011444

It's alright until the endgame, certain classes just fall off into nothingness which can be annoying given how slow the grind is to get them back up

Fun game, but the ending is shit

>>16011464

The roaming NPC parties in Wiz7 was one of the coolest mechanics in any RPG, pity the game was so broken.

>>16011434

do you know where one can get Demise Ascension?

both mordor and ascension are up for sale on gamersgate of all places, and slavtracker has rise of the ku'tan, but I cant find ascension anywhere

mordor can be found here

https://www.old-games.com/download/10418/mordor-the-depths-of-dejenol

>>16011434

How casual are we talking here?

>>16011464

I thought the powerword was neanderthal

>>16011598

You enter a room and autobattle, that´s it. But somehow they didn´t talk about the most important (And the one that scares the casuals away) part of Demise: It´s a looooooooooooooooong game, but not long in a "Yeah, month well spent" sense but "I spent a year grinding AND I´M STILL IN FLOOR 24", yet it´s very addictive like crack. The game has a multiplayer mode where 16 autists can roam the dungeon.

I have the installer for Demise: The revelation 1.3 but i heard the dude that compiled it had a bad reputation

>>16012312

Whats that?

>>16012328

Some dude got a copy of Demise:Rise of the Ku'tan and he did a few tweaks here and there and managed to optimize with a mod and then posted the result for free: Basically took a copy of the game, improved it and gave it for free to anyone who wanted to download it. But people that bought the game (like 5 years prior to this) got angry because they payed for the game and now their game is free and improved (But it´s the same game, only it runs better in both old and new machines).

Now there´s a "expanded" version of the game, Demise:Ascension, that it´s the same game but with a fuckton of content (New items, maps are now four times bigger…) but i can´t find a torrent for it.

>>16011587

https://www.oldpcgaming.net/demise-rise-of-the-kutan/

I found this, but now I'm more interested in this

>>16012312

Mind posting the installer you have?>>16012362

>people that bought the game (like 5 years prior to this) got angry

what a bunch of faggots, just get a copy of the free, improved version and be happy you supported the original devs, jesus christ.

>>16012362

Fuck, I remember the Revelation drama. That project was started when everyone thought Ascension was vaporware and Decklin sicced a bunch of autists to harass the guy. I should've screencapped some of that stuff because it was the most pathetic flame war you could think of.

>>16012420

yeah, you are better off getting it off rutracker tho, no retarded download limits

I was looking for Ascension as well, I already bought starsector so I dont have 30 ameridollaroos to spend right now

>>16013589

on that note: FUCK

there was a crack on cs.rin.ru apparently, but that shit got taken down or expired

goddammit

>>16012420

==DEMISE: THE REVELATION 1.3== =

#!89EE2YgC!-O9RK4EOa6xE0vIhR1NKZCte4jrDILgqbSuBccry5zs

I also included some stuff like the character editor, teleport, hp/mp tweaks. It contains the game + addon, just install and that´s it. You can make custom portraits for the game, it´s has to be in .bmp format and 150x150, and if you need any help check this page:

http://www.zimlab.com/demise/sbeast/iwmain.htm

It´s pretty much a guide for the game, with info about items, guilds ,etc

>>16014726

how does it compare with the newer version?

>>16014817

It doesn´t compare actually: Revelation it´s just Rise of the Ku'tan but it works better Also is free because it´s practically abandonware/freeware at this age while Ascension has new content, pretty much the core game + "expansion" but it´s like 20 bucks or something. I didn´t bought it yet i prefer "pirate first, buy next".

On a related note, anyone who played Demise knows where´s the tea room? i´m aware you can found it before floor 20, but it´s like those secrets everyone needs to take it to the tomb

>>16013377

Nice digits.

>>16014983

Yeah as I posted above I failed to find a pirated copy of asension

Shame actually about the new content but at least revelation works better

>>16014817

I never played this one, I was still busy with Ku'tan when it came out and I forgot about it. They didn't have the source code though so probably no major changes. As for Ascension, it's rebalanced and expanded with new floors and items although the change in developers is obvious.

>>16014726

Thanks anon. Any idea if the saves are cross compatible with Ku'tan?

>>16015501

Wiz 8 is a 2001 game with decent production values and the Jagged Alliance 2 guys involved in the design. Plays great, tons of replayability.

>>16015676

any tips for party creation? i dont want to screw myself right from the start…

>>16015774

2 tanks in the front line (any warrior classes).

Gadgeteer, bard

Rogue for auto-detect, you don't really need this one but it's cool the first time through

Bishop or priest for healing

This should work ok, but you can beat this game solo with the worst race/class combo so just go with what looks fun to play.

>>16015774

>>16015908

One more thing, when you hit Arnika Road, avoid the mobs and run or sneak to town to grind there. Then go back and do the cemetery quest.

>>16014726

Thanks anon. I hope one of us can find Ascension at some point, I'm curious about that extra content. But from what all of you are saying this game itself is fucking huge so it's not that great a loss.

>>16016089

I did PM the cs.rin uploader, Im not holding my breath tho, but as you said I guess its not the end of the world

>>16016374

The bonus stuff in Ascension is mostly endgame content and tweaks you won't notice as a new player.