e9111b No.15972845
I've always been curious about huge ass wargames and the like but I never actually played them, so tell me anons, any of you got titles you would personally endorse?
some of these fucking games are pretty niche and expensive, and I got the feeling pirating them will be difficult for those that are never got a steam release
8fa9d5 No.15972897
I would love a grand strat that isnt based in real world history.
e9111b No.15972948
>>15972897
maybe Dominions 5 would suit you?
it takes a lot from Master of Magic and a bit from HoMM 3, so it may be more 4x than grand strategy or wargame, but the scope is pretty impressive, tons of factions, units, spells and summons you can do in and out of battle, you can even craft magic items to empower your commanders
its mostly focused on multiplayer tho, thats a bit of a boner killer for me but I may bite the bullet one of these days and play against people
272eda No.15973005
Always wanted to try Gary Grisbys war in the easy, but that requires autism beyond me. HoI3 is piss easy compared to it, my first real game of Hoi3 I finished my campaign by 1943.
f49a82 No.15973791
>>15972948
i can barely fuckin fight a normal computer because im a brainlet and dont utilize spells and summons well enough
33f474 No.15973809
>>15973791
That is exactly the reason why I'm never able to do anything in total war games.
>make a fuck off massive army
>my strength is twice theirs, I have archers and artillery and everything
>defeat
9337a6 No.15973844
>>15973809
I played Total Warhammer around release, was awful at it, and only gave it another try again recently. The problem I keep running into is that I have trouble controlling such a large number of guys and that the campaign is shit for teaching you since there's no real balance and it boils down to which side has better numbers. Also the battles take so fucking long to load that it makes auto-resolve really damn tempting for most fights.
00567a No.15974043
I wish there was a like War in the East style game with Dominions style factions
e9111b No.15974064
>>15974043
the closest thing you will get is Fantasy General
not the same obviously but thats it I think
3d44c3 No.15974115
There's Graviteam Tactics: Operation Star that I have played a bit.
Game is really rough, but there's the map phase where you move whole division, then the battle phase where you move squad around.
You can setup how realistic/arcadey you want, but on the more realistic level you also need to take in account the communication line:
You relay order to the squad leader, and the leader then order the soldier under them around, so if you give "too many orders", the squad will be confused, or if they had some shell exploding near them their hearing will be impaired to the ear ringing. Stuff like that.
e9111b No.15974169
>>15973791
these might be of help
this dude makes nation-specific overviews, just pick the one you like and take some useful pointers for pretender creation and how you should set up your forging-research pipeline to get the spells you want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otrRqbfolnQ
and this might help with multiplayer games, I have yet to play against humans yet tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQGJ7tsuAQo
ae972a No.15974332
>>15973844
> no real balance and it boils down to which side has better numbers.
I've fought off hoards three to four times my army size, stop making shit up as an excuse for being bad.
f6349b No.15974410
War in the East is fun but pretty intimidating. WitW is a little more intuitive but I don't personally like the setting as much. They're really hard to get a grip on and you'll be continuously learning as you play, but the smaller scenarios are actually a lot of fun even without a serious understanding of the more complex parts of the game. Once you have the basics you can pretty much just drop into scenarios and have fun.
5ee56d No.15974576
>>15972845
The Slavs have a bunch of John Tiller games along with other Wargames up on Rutracker, Search " Компьютерные варгеймы / Wargaming " to get the new thread. I'd personally recommend The French and Indian war or the Mexican-American war titles if you're interested in Tiller games, the UI and many of the mechanics are shared throughout nearly all of the games they've made, even through the WW2 games. The reason I'd recommend those to start off with is because the battles are generally small so it's easier to digest. Though I suppose you could go right for the Panzer Campaign series and play some of the smaller scenarios instead of the huge ass Blitzkrieg in the west you have pictured.
f6349b No.15974601
>>15974576
Damn, there's a shit ton there, assuming I don't pick up any viruses, thanks anon.
809b41 No.15974638
There are so much wargames out there, but recently I recommend: Ultimate General: Gettysburg and Ultimate General: Civil War.
Made by Darthmod, of TW modding fame.
5ee56d No.15974742
Also forgot to mention, Steel Panthers is a good tactical turn based game, with a whole bunch of nations available from 1930-1945, the developer has it free over here http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Camo_Workshop/WW2/WW2_page.html . In the /vg/ wargames thread some anon figured out how to convert the free version to the paid one, which is a huge quality of life upgrade because it lets you play with modern resolutions.
740764 No.15975199
There was new expansion for Mius Front today "Under the Cruel Star"
>Battle south of Kharkov after its first liberation in February 1943. The Soviet 6th gds Cavalry corps and tanks of 201 TBde conduct mobile operations behind the enemy lines.
>On the morning of February 20, the 11 CD 6 gds CC received the order to attack Ordivka and Bulakhi farmsteads, but did not accomplish the task, and by evening withdrew to fst.Klyuchevodsk where it was on the defensive until February 20-21. And 83 CD conducted battle for vlg.Borki for two days, positioned on the heights north of the village. But by the evening of February 20 was dislodged from the heights to the north, and entrenched in the forest. The next day, the cavalrymen attacked Borki again, but were able to capture it only by the morning of February 22. The same day, 11 CD reached fst.Podkopay and fst.Homenki again, and attacked in the direction of fst.Ordivka and fst.Bulakhi. Units of the SS LSAH division took defense here.
Game is very good if you like Eastern Front stuff
fb9fb2 No.15975223
>>15974742
>the paid for version makes it hurt your eyes less
Damn what a kike
94e458 No.15975323
>>15975199
Tried to get into these but I hate the Eastern Front
5ee56d No.15975434
>>15975223
It's not so bad, since nearly all the rest is the same. Paid version is almost entirely quality of life improvements over the free game.
>>15975323
There's a desert game not branded as Graviteam tactics that is US/UK vs Krauts called "Tank Warfare Tunisia 1943". That might be worth a shot, if not you can always try Close Combat or Combat mission series.
693405 No.15975452
>>15975434
Combat Mission fucking rules. Afghanistan in particular is exceptionally good, if only because it's the only Russo-Afghani war game I've ever seen, and it plays excellently
782856 No.15975479
Preview of my current CM game. Just looking at this terrain, I can tell attacking it is going to be an absolute slog.
e9111b No.15975807
>>15974576
do they ban you if your ratio sucks? or does it use some sort of compensation system like tokens and that kind of stuff?
5ee56d No.15975913
>>15975807
Not that I know of, but the few torrents I've got from there I have a good ratio with. The games that are in the wargames thread are all uploaded to Slav file sharing sites like yandisk and cloudmail so a ratio counter wouldn't matter anyway.
44a210 No.15976779
>>15973791
Play on The easiest difficulty and just fuck around playing around with The mechanics like you would with a toy. Eventually you will learn some of The mechanics and units, starting to recognize them and get ideas about how to use them. Then start playing on higher difficulties, moving slowly up, that is how you learn strategy games.
d9d96c No.15976943
The only "wargame" I am able to play is Unity of Command and that's more a puzzle
e9111b No.15976992
>>15974742
weird, I click on the installer and it wont even start, even openin as admin
thats what I get for using botnet 10
7a3876 No.15977045
>>15976992
I love when retards blame their lack of cognition on something other than themselves. It must be microsoft and the kikes keeping you from playing a game, no other explanation.
e9111b No.15977154
>>15977045
calm your tits anon, that was just a derogatory term, no I dont think the kikes are plotting to fuck my panzer game, the fuck are you going on about
Im well aware I should not be using win10 in the first place to run old games
71d87e No.15977854
There's this new game called At The Gates that's supposed to come out later this month. Anyone have any thoughts on it? I really want it to be good, it's like BfW but without the weebery and more economy.
5ee56d No.15978443
>>15976992
That's odd, try compatibility mode with XP if you haven't already.
e0f36f No.15978498
>>15978443
as it turns out, my weaboo ass was my undoing, I forgot I had left the locale set to jap to play weeb games
in my defense, Rance is a pretty cool game
or it may have been some fuckery with the overly long path since that folder was buried within other folders
the method to get the full version going works like a charm, it crashes on fullscreen for me tho, but thats a minor annoyance
jesus this thing has 400+ scenarios, and I assume there are fanmade campaigns out there, you could play this shit forever
f85f56 No.15978589
Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations does what it says on the tin (post-WW2). It's representative enough that they made a professional version that got picked up by a few companies including BAE and was at least trialed by the Pentagon.
94e458 No.15978949
>>15974576
Wait wtf? they have all those wargames there? Holy shit they have every game I've been looking for
e0f36f No.15979017
>>15978949
checking the rutracker thread it really has a breadth of obscure ass, niche wargames that are sold for outrageous prices in the middle of bumfuck nowhere ***or at least its internet equivalent*
Im not a wargame aficionado by any means but I imagine any grognard worth his salt would be creaming his pants at the sight
Im happy this shit exists, these ugly ass games with complexity out the ass for the boomer wargamer market with more disposable income than I, its like being a kid finding a bunch of old timer toys stashed away in the dark
I love it, fuck I really dont know where to start, I might go with one of the John Tiller campaigns anon mentioned above
5ee56d No.15982110
>>15978498
Sengoku Rance is fun, I haven't played the others, but I don't really want to since they seem like JRPGs with lewds, am I wrong?
>>15978949
>>15979017
Another anon told me about the previous thread they used some months back, and with all the stuff I liberated from the slavs, as far as autistic wargames are concerned, I am very satisfied. There is notable exception of Combat Mission Italy not really having a proper crack but I've still got my hands full with Black sea, Red Thunder and Normandy so I can't complain too much. I just want to play an army worse than the British damn it.
e9111b No.15982297
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>>15982110
Sengoku Rance is a porn and it also has JRPG elements, but its also a legit strategy game , a lot of people say something to the effect of "played for the lewds stayed for the gameplay", and Im no exeption
my biggest gripe is that there are lots of event triggers that might fuck you or close you from certain content, but it is a jolly good time
>Another anon told me about the previous thread they used some months back
you mean another thread in rutracker? does this one have the same links?
5ee56d No.15982408
>>15982297
I've finished Sengoku a few times, I meant the other Rance games, my bad if that was unclear.
>you mean another thread in rutracker? does this one have the same links?
The current thread is a continuation of an old one about the Panzer campaign games that hit 92 or 93 pages and had random links just dropped all over the place. The current thread has everything that works from the last one, not counting the original torrent link to some Panzer campaign games.
On a related note, I did download the torrent at some point so I can upload any specific games if anyone wants a particular one of these
>Smolensk '41
>Normandy '44
>Tobruk '41
>Kharkov '42
>Bulge '44
>Korsun '44
>Kursk '43
>Sicily '43
>Rzhev '42
>Market Garden '44
>El Alamein '42
>France '40
>Salerno '43
>Moscow '41
>Stalingrad '42
>Minsk '44
>Budapest '45
>Sealion '40
Or anons could try their luck with the torrent, it's under 'HPS Panzer Campaigns'.
e9111b No.15982859
>>15982408
I would encourage you to upload all of them together if you can, you can never have too many backups
e9111b No.15983423
>>15982859
also, the links could also be posted in the share thread
5ee56d No.15984320
e9111b No.15984356
>>15984320
nice, thanks anon
762d9f No.15985595
>>15974742
i still play world at war in an old pc that i had since i was a teen
1c4981 No.15985836
>>15972948
Dominions is temporary fun for only the newest players outside of MP. Inside of MP, it's a fathoms-deep well of meta. The nations that look strong are either shit or strong for a completely different reason (e.g. Niefelheim's main strength isn't having the most formidable sacred giants in the game or the even more formidable frost giant Jarls thugged out with magical equipment, and you will lose against most competent players with decent or better nations if you rely on those tactics; their real strength is in making magical communions headed by your old frost giant Baba Yaga-lookin crones set to feed off of your Skratti in werewolf form with stacked regen items, which will infinitely spam hordes of skeletons while your giant, turbo-regening werewolves heal through the massive fatigue damage they incur; a small handful of Skratti are infinite spell batteries for a dozen Gygja).
Most of the cool-looking stuff is garbage (Hinnom, which is all about your half-Jew giant, half-fallen angel unholy cannibal kings actually sucks ass if you rely much on those, as they quickly kill off your population with their feasting), most direct damage spells (see: the cool spells) are shit, development and balancing is glacial. You'll need to straight-up study the game, the inspector and tutor under the tranny-run community if you want to git gud at this incredibly niche game for autismos. Then the actual games themselves are a constant responsibility that run for months.
It's not fucking worth it imo.
740764 No.15985850
>>15985836
So basically you're saying that Agartha is the most powerful race in Dominions?
9b4c43 No.15985867
>>15984320
You absolute sick cunt, thanks mate.
e9111b No.15988615
>>15985836
hows CoE? is it dead?
7c2b6a No.15996536
>>15988615
Isn't Conquest of Elysium more like HoMM? I never actually played HoMM but I remember reading people making comparisons between the two.
efa63d No.15997076
>>15978443
some people like to help
>>15977045
others like to troll
1a3609 No.15997547
>>15996536
>Isn't Conquest of Elysium more like HoMM?
Yeah it is, but you don't have control over battles, they happen automatically
but it's fairly similar in terms of scale and how it plays. You move around the map and grab resource locations and fight/recruit monsters
it's much more small scale than dominions is, but it's pretty fun if you're don't want to slog through a longer play session of dominions and it does have some cool features like going to hell or the netherworld, plus the variety of "end games" that different factions can do like breaking the 7 Seals
>>15985836
I like playing single player in Dominions
f6349b No.16000355
>>15985836
>>15997547
It can be fun if you have some friends to play with that are as bad as at the game
e9111b No.16000533
>>15997547
>>16000355
honestly just trying out factions across the three eras can give you enough singleplayer hours to last you a while
I spent the first 6 hours of the game mostly stumbling around and reading lore and unit descriptions
396350 No.16003080
>>15974576
>French and Indian War
OH SHIT YES, thanks anon, ive been on the prowl for a decent FaIW game but up until now i didnt think anything existed apart from War Along the Mohawk but i cant find a decent copy of that to save my life.
ac6106 No.16009392
Steel Panthers Long Campaign has too many options and I can't choose one. It's amazing.
0c502c No.16021770
>>15985836
>most direct damage spells (see: the cool spells) are shit
This is a big part of the issue. Dominions is great, but the more you enjoy it the more you realise that almost all the units nations, spells. rituals, and weapons in the game are trash useless, and the more you try to explore the magic in the game, the less fun you have. The real fun that people have in dominions is the machiavellian plots.