8e1f3e No.15946822
How likely is it that this version won't be censored? Hell, maybe that's why it's being teased in the first place, because the PS4 version is kiked.
321eff No.15946824
3fb3eb No.15946839
>>15946822
Why the fuck would it be censored on PC?
fa77a8 No.15946845
>>15946839
Haven't been keeping up with steam, sony, and general publisher censorship threads, have you?
771eb5 No.15946846
Hopefully they also port over the SMT games.
8e1f3e No.15946849
>>15946839
Because nip devs are lazy and put the least effort possible into PC ports. Try the recent Katamari port on PC, it just maps both sticks to WASD and IJKL, with no option to use the mouse for fucking anything. It's highly likely they'd just change the Playstation icons to PC button keys (the ones that already existed in data for the original Catherine) and output to PC with no additional changes as usual.
Also, Steam could crack down on them independently even if they do put the extra two minutes of effort in.
bb2bde No.15946852
>>15946839
because sometimes devs only make one 'worldwide' version of the game.
c489aa No.15946853
>>15946849
Sega does decent PC ports though, not perfect but certainly miles above bullshit like NISA and Bamco
5c069e No.15946854
>Sega
Prepare yourself for Denuvo.
722f76 No.15946855
>>15946845
It's not going to be censored on PC. The only reason why Steam censored those games is because they're illegal in certain countries and states.
e2e780 No.15946858
I’ve only played a little bit of catherine on an emulator, but wasn’t it a pozzed game about how men are manbabies for not wanting to commit to stronk independent womyn?
bb64e5 No.15946880
>>15946858
It was about divine punishment for fucking around instead of marrying and reproducing like God intended with God giving men nightmares about climbing block towers.
Including Eric the tranny; god hates fags
3fb3eb No.15946881
>>15946845
>>15946849
>>15946852
You're absolute retards the kikes at Steam wouldn't censor a non porn game from a big publisher.
There's nothing to censor, learn what context is you mongoloids.
8e1f3e No.15946890
>>15946881
They said the same about Sony, you know. After all, Persona 4 Golden was one of the biggest games on the Vita, and 5 was so big that even Square delayed FFXV, so surely they wouldn't go after Atlus!
3fb3eb No.15946910
>>15946890
>Volvos censorship bullshit is the same as Soynys one
You're an absolute retard with no self awareness.
Senran Kagura is releasing uncensored there you stupid fuck, learn what context is.
Steam and Valve are kikery but their policy doesn't even come close to Soynys
f16d17 No.15947833
>>15946854
Bayonetta on PC didn't get Denuvo so maybe Catherine on PC won't get Denuvo as well.
86998f No.15947930
>>15946820
>>15946824
>persona gets ported and put on steam
>there is now even greater overlap between the steam userbase and persona fans
that is some of the grossest shit I can imagine
d64cf2 No.15947941
>>15947833
They put fucking Denuvo in tetris for christ's sake.
The only way it won't have Denuvo is if they fuck up like they did with Two Point Hospital or if it fucks up the performance heavily like what happened with Shenmue
b6de75 No.15948011
f97a92 No.15948015
Just release Persona on everything, you cockteasing fucks.
4030cd No.15948056
>>15946820
>Catherine
I never got this game, the gameplay is like something you would find in a minigame. Or is this about the generic story attached to it?
b5131f No.15948092
>>15946824
Already played 5 on the PS3 emulator.
b6de75 No.15948096
>>15948056
It's about the buyers remorse of the soybox owner.
24ab88 No.15948098
You’ll fit in better if you amplify the amount of times you can try to fit the word “cuck” or “soy” into a post. Bastardizing words by trying to combine words with “cuck” and “soy” also means you’re extremely cool and likeable.
b6de75 No.15948102
7d0445 No.15948120
>>15948098
>Low tier bait
Try harder bitchboy
965d30 No.15948217
Despite all the downsides mentioned in this thread, I've wanted Catherine for PC since its release and more so ever since Sega promised a slew of PC ports a couple years ago.
f16d17 No.15948512
>>15947941
Well, the Catherine port is based on the original game and not the Full Body remake. Also, doesn't Denuvo screw over the performance of any PC game by default?
>>15948015
This.
aac8ae No.15948543
2acbae No.15948544
I hope it doesn't come to PC.
There's something sacred about Atlus games staying on consoles. It would feel wrong.
Plus i don't want it to fall into the same cancer that PC has brought, namely the all-digital DRM-ridden, no physical copies or ownership future along with piss-poor optimization and lazy porting
aac8ae No.15948554
>>15948544
>There's something sacred about Atlus games staying on consoles. It would feel wrong.
The fuck?
>Plus i don't want it to fall into the same cancer that PC has brought, namely the all-digital DRM-ridden, no physical copies or ownership future along with piss-poor optimization and lazy porting
Nigger, your consoles are literal physical DRM.
49ea05 No.15948556
>>15946820
If this is real Atlus must be assmad as fuck and if this does well Sega most likely make ports of P4 & P5. I hope it is Full Body but that's wishful thinking…
6031d7 No.15948560
>>15946820
>Cucklus
>Not Fatlus
t. newfag trying too hard to fit in by slapping "cuck" onto words
2acbae No.15948564
>>15948554
>Physical digital rights management
Do you just say things without thinking about them?
9e910b No.15948565
>>15948560
He's a cuckchan shitposter
I know because I banned him
aac8ae No.15948572
>>15948564
How? It's still digital rights that they reinforce.
You must buy the goddamn legal discs on the consoles.
No pirated discs.
No pirated consoles.
No emulation allowed.
2baf28 No.15948583
Did they ever confirm that the new character was a trap or something?
e7963f No.15948585
>>15948572
>No pirated discs.
>No pirated consoles.
>No emulation allowed.
Just blow in from cuckchan? Save stupid posts like that for there.
2acbae No.15948597
>>15948572
>you must buy the goddamn legal discs on the consoles
You can't be this retarded.
>What are flashcarts/other methods of piracy such as HDDs
>What is CFW
>What is homebrew
Hell the Dreamcast was easy as fuck to copy discs for for example, and any consoles with a storage device bigger than memory cards available for it are all able to be pirated for.
>No emulation allowed
You know nothing about consoles clearly, and you should stop posting any time.
At this point you're just defining DRM as "something I don't like" than anything meaningful. The only DRM that consoles might have (usually in the newer ones) are things such as firmware updates, or having to be logged into a network, and that is DRM, but that's no different from shit like Steam which is also cancer. If you have half a brain you'd also have a hacked console if you own them
2acbae No.15948604
>>15948597
Oh, and some of them did have some copy-protection measures but those were usually bypassed at some point
aac8ae No.15948612
>>15948585
How? That's modern state for consoles.
>>15948597
>Hell the Dreamcast was easy as fuck to copy discs for for example, and any consoles with a storage device bigger than memory cards available for it are all able to be pirated for.
The same for PC? It's even easier to pirate on PC. But I thought we are speaking about NOW? and not before?
>At this point you're just defining DRM as "something I don't like" than anything meaningful. The only DRM that consoles might have (usually in the newer ones) are things such as firmware updates, or having to be logged into a network, and that is DRM, but that's no different from shit like Steam which is also cancer.
So you do admit that consoles have DRM, my point is that the consoles are literal physical DRM because you have to BUY them in order to play the games.
>If you have half a brain you'd also have a hacked console if you own them
So are you a retard who cannot download cracked PC games?
>Oh, and some of them did have some copy-protection measures but those were usually bypassed at some point
How and why?
There's a double standard going on and it's retarded. Consoles are even more restrictive than PC.
2acbae No.15948718
>>15948612
>my point is that consoles are literal physical DRM because you have to buy them in order to play the games
That's not fucking DRM. That's you not liking the hardware. I can call PCs as complete DRM by that same logic. Hell I can call anything I don't want to buy but would need for a game as DRM.
>So are you a retard who cannot download cracked PC games?
Nigger, the point isn't that I can't pirate on PC. I never said you couldn't. My problem is quite literally almost everything on PC is sold on Steam, an entirely DRM service. Consoles are not inherently DRM, unlike Steam which is and that's clear to anyone with a brain and can understand this. You need to log into an online client and be registered with a service to purchase and access your games. This doesn't even get into the more virulent kind of DRM such as Denuvo which they allow on many games on their store. I want to buy games when I can which is why I mentioned physical copies, but its impossible for me to do so without supporting the DRM of Steam and sometimes Denuvo. Not to mention digital goods are value-less garbage.
>There's a double standard going on and it's retarded. Consoles are even more restrictive than PC
Yes, they are, but they were never intended to be all-purpose machines. They are specialized, and what they do handle, they do well. In the case of emulation many of these modern consoles can handle emulation of older ones in their hardware lines better than PC can, for example the Xbone with the emulation of the 360 and the OG.
>It's even easier to pirate on PC
Depends on the console, but for the Vita and 3DS for example you could download games directly from their respective stores for free, and for the Vita you still can. Its even easier than finding a piracy site or torrent and handling the installations.
>But I thought we are speaking about NOW? and not before?
Now consoles are worse, yes but you act like consoles have no value (and while they've gotten much worse over time, that's still not entirely true yet) and everything you don't like or don't want to buy is DRM.The point isn't piracy though, even though that's possible on both consoles and PC.
My point is that on PC, nothing is worth buying (digitally) because of the lack of physical copies, and the fact that you would almost certainly be supporting a DRM service's near-monopoly on the market and possibly even further DRM services. I want to buy games but I want them to have value and I would prefer they be physical. If they're digital, they should at least be DRM-free, cheaper, and not require Windows 10 or something.
This doesn't even get into the fact that PC has its own issues if you want to apply your own logic as "everything I don't want to buy from is DRM". If you want to talk about hardware DRM, look at the new Intel and AMD CPU lines attempting to force everyone to use Botnet 10. The new DX12 meme being pushed which requires Windows 10.
If you're going to buy preowned parts to avoid giving money, you could do the same with modern consoles too which would render the argument irrelevant anyways and you could and should be able to hack them as well.
The other shit such as lazy porting and piss-poor optimization aren't great things either. Its affecting consoles as well to an extent, but its more often than not even worse on PC.
b9ba6c No.15948957
>>15948544
>There's something sacred about Atlus games staying on consoles.
I've read this five times and can make no sense of it.
265d58 No.15949032
>>15948718
>Consoles are not inherently DRM
AHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH
e05b1c No.15949047
>>15948718
>while they've gotten much worse over time, that's still not entirely true yet
I was with you up until right there. The reason I owned consoles is because there's no way to get the JP version of a PC game that isn't a porn game. Almost all Japanese games on PC are Steam only, digital only, and western localization only. For example, the Japanese Steam version of Criminal Girls is literally the censored NA version with Japanese text reapplied. Meanwhile, with consoles, I could just import the uncensored, Japanese original, at least until Sony fucked us. Xbox is a joke, and Nintendo will soon be just as bad about censoring because when we let one company get away with it, they all do it. If I can't even import an uncensored version of the game anymore, I have no reason to own a console.
9b0ebc No.15949059
THANKS FOR BETA TESTING CONSOLE CUCKS
a16703 No.15949065
>>15949012
>waaah this is an awful place because there are idiots here
>already 4 posts calling out the faggots
>reddit spacing
This attitude of giving up is what gave us cuckchan cancer in the first place.
Quit being a fucking pussy everytime some retard runs his mouth.
You know damn well that you're never leaving this place, because you wouldn't be wasting your time making posts if you were.
4fa214 No.15949081
>by SEGA
It's gonna be a DRM-crippled piece of shit masquerading as a "PC port".
aac8ae No.15949114
>>15948718
>That's not fucking DRM. That's you not liking the hardware.
The hardware itself is the DRM! You have to buy that exact hardware in order to play a certain game.
>I never said you couldn't. My problem is quite literally almost everything on PC is sold on Steam, an entirely DRM service.
Which are mostly pirate-able, unlike consoles.
>Consoles are not inherently DRM
Hold a fucking minute, the idea of console exclusive is inherently DRM because you need to buy a specific hardware in order to play it.
> I want to buy games when I can which is why I mentioned physical copies, but its impossible for me to do so without supporting the DRM of Steam and sometimes Denuvo.
Physical copies have DRM too, the thought that physical = better is archaic and wrong.
>Not to mention digital goods are value-less garbage.
On the contrary, something on GOG is basically invaluable because a disc might fall, GOG itself might fall, but a torrent of GOG files will never fail.
>Yes, they are, but they were never intended to be all-purpose machines.
And? That's not the matter, the matter is that you need to buy a specific console in order to play a certain game, THAT in itself is a huge limitation to everyone.
>Depends on the console, but for the Vita and 3DS for example you could download games directly from their respective stores for free, and for the Vita you still can.
The Vita and 3DS are fucking dead.
>Now consoles are worse, yes but you act like consoles have no value
Consoles have no value, every games are better sold on PC, DRM-free so that EVERYONE can enjoy them instead of funding console exclusive scams.
>My point is that on PC, nothing is worth buying (digitally) because of the lack of physical copies,
What is the value of physical copies? You are some stamp collecting faggot?
>If they're digital, they should at least be DRM-free, cheaper, and not require Windows 10 or something.
So if they are physical, it's okay for them to have DRM and require a console to run? Explain that logic?
>This doesn't even get into the fact that PC has its own issues if you want to apply your own logic as "everything I don't want to buy from is DRM".
You are free to not buy a PC.
>The other shit such as lazy porting and piss-poor optimization aren't great things either. Its affecting consoles as well to an extent, but its more often than not even worse on PC.
Devs problem, not the platform problem.
EVERY GAMES ARE BETTER SOLD ON PC, the most free and uncucked platform.
aac8ae No.15949118
>>15949047
Censorship is a lost cause.
The problem is the government and corporation running them.
There's no escape, there's no fucking saying "Oh it's Japan, they can't censor that". Nope, not anymore. This is worldwide now.
4fa214 No.15949138
>>15949114
>hardware is DRM
Oh look, it's this retarded argument again. If hardware is DRM, then everything is DRM. Can't play video games without that i386 processor, silicon must be DRM. I can't play games without breathing; therefore, oxygen is DRM!
DRM is only a useful term if it has a precise definition that applies to specific scenarios. Luckily, it does. DIGITAL Rights Management is a background program that runs secondary to another piece of software whose only function is to police the user's legitimate use of that software.
Don't confused DRM with other copy protection measures. There are such things as hardware-based copy protection, but they aren't DRM. One such example common on arcade hardware is kill-chips that are designed to ruin the ROM if an attempt is made to understand how it works. A developer making a choice to developer for a particular machine does not inherently make that hardware DRM.
306cc9 No.15949150
>>15948217
They teased Yakuza 0 & Kiwami, VC4, as well as… Shining Resonance? I think. Kiwami still to come out and Sega ports of their games are pretty great I just wished they'd stop using Denuvo. Reason VC1 sold well was it was a solid port of a good game without DRM.
306cc9 No.15949151
>>15949150
*At E3 last year.
a6f514 No.15949154
I remember liking the hell out of the game, but couldn't get past the last Babel stage due to some supposed bug at the time. Sure as hell wouldn't mind going through it again on PC though.
8d62e6 No.15949183
>>15948544
>There's something sacred about Atlus games staying on consoles. It would feel wrong.
The holy Soyny exclusivity was already defiled by those heathens at Atlus when they ported SMT to phones and Persona 1 to PC. The FIRST Persona. It's like the series' original sin.
>the all-digital DRM-ridden
closed consoles with telemetry galore isn't drm?
>no physical copies
europe, denuvo free physical releases hello?
>or ownership future
P.T.? Account bans with no recourse?
>along with piss-poor optimization
30fps slowdown ridden games with no upgrade options?
>and lazy porting
like bayonetta ps3?
ba626c No.15949215
17a023 No.15949217
>>15949196
But that ban looks completely warranted.
If you went to /ck/ and only talked about movies, or went to /k/ and only talked about music you'd probably also be banned.
9b688e No.15949442
Where the fuck is Shinobi Sega?
971567 No.15949487
>>15948597
>but that's no different from shit like Steam
That's the point you dumb fuck.
You talk as if consoles dont have shit like this and then go and contradict yourself.
1017dc No.15949489
>>15949487
>only game I want to play is horizon zero dawn
>know that with a kb+m it will be a cakewalk
fd519c No.15949511
>>15948544
>namely the all-digital DRM-ridden, no physical copies or ownership future along with piss-poor optimization and lazy porting.
why no just rip the DRM out with cracking tools and make your own physical copies? (with m-disc) if you've if you've "already paid" for the game, no reason not too.
3dd5bc No.15949512
>>15949442
The 3DS one didn't do so hot, so the IP's on ice for the foreseeable future.
fd519c No.15949520
>>15949512
they should just put put a PC port of the ps2 titles, like they did with shenmue 1&2. the pc is starving for good action titles.
9b688e No.15949547
>>15949520
I don't mind ports but I did want a new game, 2d or 3d it doesn't really matter to me.
e60f63 No.15949600
>>15948554
>>15948572
>>15948612
>>15949166
>>15949114
>cant understand what digital rights management means actually
>lead idiots to the point of them calling physicals discs or cartridges "DRM"
By DRM it means everything tied to an online service. Encrypted files that cannot be opened/modified without a specific tool arent necessarily DRM per se
a8a02a No.15949606
>>15949520
Nightshade is my favorite PS2 game, it took Shinobi which was quick, skill based and arcadey and added tits and ass to it.
91c1ee No.15949664
1. It's going to be Full Body, because that's where the most profit is.
2. It's going to be censored, as Sony won't let Atlus leave them with the inferior product.
3. All the Just Learn Japanese goys have been thoroughly cucked.
Don't trust weebs: they always run from the fight and once they are cornered, they give in. Look at /a/, it's just a front for homos and trannies: they're just furries with anime avatars.
You have to draw the line between entertainment and lifestyle. Watch whatever you want but it cannot change you into its thing.
91c1ee No.15949669
>>15949600
>cant understand what digital rights management means actually
You are talking to teens who never had a job in their life: they never factor in the costs for PC buy and maintenance, because it was bought by mom's.
ccfdce No.15949678
Wtf is Catherine? Fucking console honks gtfo
bbe184 No.15949700
>>15949664
You forgot that it's a modern Atlus remake. It will most likely be shit.
6dc045 No.15949771
>>15948512
it loads up a virtual machine for the game and does various code checks during gameplay, it has a lot of overhead.
2916f7 No.15949813
>Console Are / aren't DRM shitflinging
PROTIP: if a device can only run signed code, the code has measures to prevent it from running on things that aren't the official hardware and finally the hardware has protection against removing signature checks then all that is fucking DRM
PROTIP2: If a device has a physical processor in it to perform signature verification to allow / diasallow running speciofic code that's hardware DRM
PROTIP3: installing CFW on a console is bypassing the DRM the same way using a cracked executable on a steam game is bypassing the DRM the only difference being how hard it is to make / use
>>15946820
Hopefully that means Odin Sphere at some point too
6dc045 No.15949821
>>15949813
that's a lot of protips, but you seem to just be stating facts
e60f63 No.15949848
>>15949813
To me that's just hypocritical bullshit when nobody seems to be crying over PC games exclusively running on Windows ecosystem
And yeah, I'm gonna laugh at your face if you claim a Gameboy and SNES are DRM just because they arent personal computers
6dc045 No.15949875
>>15949848
the gameboy and snes had built in drm. it was only a little piece of plastic on each but still.
a6d8c3 No.15949883
>>15949848
>when nobody seems to be crying over PC games exclusively running on Windows ecosystem
Wine exists you know, Linux games are also a thing now.
Nobody whines about it because EVERYBODY uses Windows.
Not everybody can buy a Playstation.
a6d8c3 No.15949888
>>15949669
Nigger my $700 PC can last for 10 fucking years, much more than any consoles.
I decide to change when I have the dough.
f16d17 No.15949906
While we on the subject of Catherine; How badly censored would the Full Body remake be? I'm asking this because one of the devs said that "They went as far as they could without the light shining", which that response has very strange choice of words.
>>15949664
>2. It's going to be censored, as Sony won't let Atlus leave them with the inferior product.
Well to be fair, that DOA Extreme 3 expansion game got a Switch port along side with the PS4 version and that Switch port wasn't censored by Sony as far as I remember.
e60f63 No.15949929
>>15949875
>the gameboy and snes had built in drm
Guess mustard race fags are still crazy with their reddit memes
>>15949883
>Wine exists you know, Linux games are also a thing now
There is a reason why I said "games running exclusively on Windows ecosystem" but I guess you didnt exactly catch that on. Try to run 95% of games without Wine by any mean.
>Nobody whines about it because EVERYBODY uses Windows.
That still doesnt excuse the massive hypocrisy from faggots who absolutely hate everything about consoles, unlike sane people who just hate the current situation of maximum jewing
502d11 No.15949933
>CONSOLE GAME PORTED TO PC BY SEGA
>isnt JSRF
a6d8c3 No.15949939
>>15949929
Again, it's like hating water.
Windows is water.
PS is coke.
2916f7 No.15949940
>>15949848
>And yeah, I'm gonna laugh at your face if you claim a Gameboy and SNES are DRM just because they arent personal computers
Obviously although it becomes a bit more muddy if you're in a place that makes extracting FW from the chips illegal since those are technically required to run the game
But if hypothetically the software for that console had measures in place to detect it's not running on the OG hardware or on the wrong region then that is definitely a form of DRM
Also >>15949883 even if it's probably the most useless form of DRM ever made since once you know it exist it's something anybody can deal with.
This argument also becomes hard to sustain once you enter 5th gen, the PS and Saturn both had part of the CD drive board dedicated to reading special sectors on the discs to decide whether they were original games or not and in turn whether to run them or not, and the N64 had a chip on each cart for more or less the same purpose
Then came the XBOX which had an additional security layer by not running everything bare metal (that didn't help much since gutted NT is still windows)
Then 7th gen had every console with a special security chip whose sole purpose was to make sure you were only running legit game on unmodified hardware (granted most failed at this job)
d5a05e No.15949959
>>15949940
I'm going to assume next gen will be online activation keys with the disc for consoles. You We already have day 1 patches that hold 60 gigs of the game back while only 4 gigs are on disc. Key Online verification to run discs would probably be the next step of console DRM. Don't have internet? Can't even load the software on the disk.
2916f7 No.15950011
>>15949959
It already is, since 7th each disc has a unique key, and technically if you really pissed someone off you could get your license revoked and lose the right to play the game from that disc, the system is in place to support it it just doesn't happen (or not in a scale that is noticeable for it to be public)
d5a05e No.15950130
>>15950011
Half the time consoles just ban the full system instead of revoking license software for one disk on that system.
3c0641 No.15950156
>>15949600
And the point is that consoles are physical rights management.
4fa214 No.15950170
>>15949813
PROTIP: You're an idiot.
4fa214 No.15950172
>>15950162
DRM is one specific type of copy protection. There are others.
>I miss when this place wasn't cuckchan
Perhaps you should go back there then.
2916f7 No.15950190
>>>/v/15950170
Can't expect much more of someone so vehemently denying the fact that console contain hardware DRM.
>DRM is one specific type of copy protection. There are others.
Wrong.
DRM is any and all measures taken to prevent "unauthorized use" of digital material, those "unauthorized use" being defined by the maker of the hardware or software and generally include copying, modifying, reverse engineering and using it in a region where it wasn't sold.
Stop taking your DRM definition from Denuvo shills.
d5a05e No.15950214
ade2d7 No.15950221
>>15949933
post the whole thing
e60f63 No.15950222
>>15950162
Console hardwares and physicals arent DRM by concept. I'd definitely agree the 7th/8th gen is handled in a way that make DRM more prevalent, but claiming anything that isnt a personal computer "DRM", just because it uses a specific hardware or a set of files, is stupid as fuck
>>15950204
>These are the same Resetera tier fangirls on Discuck that try very hard to bait on pirate threads. They even defend Sonys censorship policy while pretending peole here like Steam.
nice buzzwords but PC fanboys are also guilty of shitting up threads too
4fa214 No.15950224
>>15950190
>Stop taking your DRM definition from Denuvo shills.
I'm not defending DRM, I'm sick and tired of imbeciles such as yourself being so ideologically-driven that you're unable to articulate your thoughts clearly. The definition that I'm arguing for is actually preferable to anti-DRM activists because it doesn't muddy the waters conflating what people hate about DRM on PCs with hardware shit that most people hardly care about.
<Now, it is clear that the decline of a language must ultimately have political and economic causes: it is not due simply to the bad influence of this or that individual writer. But an effect can become a cause, reinforcing the original cause and producing the same effect in an intensified form, and so on indefinitely. A man may take to drink because he feels himself to be a failure, and then fail all the more completely because he drinks. It is rather the same thing that is happening to the English language. It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts. The point is that the process is reversible. Modern English, especially written English, is full of bad habits which spread by imitation and which can be avoided if one is willing to take the necessary trouble. If one gets rid of these habits one can think more clearly, and to think clearly is a necessary first step toward political regeneration: so that the fight against bad English is not frivolous and is not the exclusive concern of professional writers.
–George Orwell
This is happening to you right this moment, anon. You use sloppy, inarticulate language, and then that language comes back and affects your thought process. Rather than refuting the central argument, you choose to jump straight to the guilt by association fallacy by pretending your opponent is in some sort of enemy camp with no evidence. Things like these will happen less often if you arm yourself with the language to construct coherent arguments.
e7963f No.15950226
>>15950204
There is nothing wrong with baiting in piracy threads, they have always been shitposting threads and slavs are so easy to get under the skin of. It takes no effort and provides infinite entertainment. If you don't do it you're literally an outsider.
e24f17 No.15950240
>>15950226
tbh slavs are not white even hitler wanted to send them back to asia
4fa214 No.15950246
Just so we're clear and who's responsible for what here, the expansion of the term DRM to encompass fucking everything was a propaganda tool developed by Steam apologists a number of years back so that they could say "see, X thing is DRM too!" as if Steam wasn't that bad or is tolerable because everything is DRM so who cares. You're all being hoodwinked, wake up.
91c1ee No.15950264
>>15949888
>my $700 PC
Here's another who believes emulation is free
2916f7 No.15950273
>>15950222
>>15950224
The only thing I see is that you're arguing that the "digital" part of DRM refers to how the rights are being protected instead of what is being protected.
You can feel free to show evidence that my definition is wrong because for now you haven't.
Meanwhile DRM being used to describe hardware and non digital devices / techniques is used by even the EFF aka the people who actually try to do shit against DRM.
>"In 1983, a very early implementation of Digital Rights Management (DRM) was the Software Service System (SSS) devised by the Japanese engineer Ryuichi Moriya. and subsequently refined under the name superdistribution."
>"The SSS was based on encryption, with specialized hardware that controlled decryption and also enabled payments to be sent to the copyright holder"
>"Common DRM techniques include restrictive licensing agreements…"
>>15950246
>It's the steamfag
You're making it seem more and more that you're not being objective and just want to blame the fact that you have no actual arguments on something else
91c1ee No.15950274
>>15949906
>How badly censored would the Full Body remake be?
Imagine taking a good game and refocusing it on a new character, who also is a transexual, and then censor the whole thing. It's like a smoothie of vinegar, shit and glass shards.
5a8cf2 No.15950283
>>15950246
>Digital rights management (DRM) is a set of access control technologies for restricting the use of proprietary hardware and copyrighted works.DRM technologies try to control the use, modification, and distribution of copyrighted works (such as software and multimedia content), as well as systems within devices that enforce these policies
<DRM only exists on PC, IGN, Gamefaqs and my favorite Youtuber told me so
Do you ever get tired of dissing out strawmans and misinfo?
>>15950264
>Emulation isn't free
Not all of us are retarded enought to give Nintendo money for Virtual console garbage or "Classic" consoles.
e7963f No.15950309
>>15950240
He really wasn't wrong about anything.
5a8cf2 No.15950313
My favorite part of nu/v/ is when console wars start and Mark himself deletes every post but the posts actually pushing for console wars.
Second only to when he or another vol delete whole threads because they were derailed and they can't be assed to do their job.
a6d8c3 No.15950317
>>15950264
It is free.
My PC can basically do anything from games, movies to fucking manga.
5a8cf2 No.15950323
>>15950317
No goy, you own nothing
Get a console instead
e7963f No.15950325
>>15950313
It would be a lot less trouble if he just banned everyone involved outright, deleted all posts or started to realize people want to talk about these things and let it happen. The retarded and poorly planned half solutions that just end up sinking the thread is basically doing more harm than good.
>>15950317
It's literally not free
f4d549 No.15950340
>>15950325
>Emulation is literally not free
a6d8c3 No.15950353
>>15950325
Yes it fucking is.
1c40c8 No.15950362
>>15949032
Well friendo, they're not. Modern ones restrict the fuck out of you, but I have harddrives full of PS2 and Original Xbox games, and I didn't pay a red penny for them.
e7963f No.15950372
>>15950353
Even the $700 ibuypower gayman RGB LED PC your mom got you cost her money. Literally not free.
5a8cf2 No.15950377
8e1f3e No.15950380
>>15950372
>Things are not free because there are other costs associated with requirements to use them
So free games, like Fortnite and shit, are not free, even on console?
Adopt a pet from the street. Did you not get him for free because you now need to buy pet food and stuff?
Or say, you had a nice living situation where you didn't have to pay for water. Would it still not be free because you need to pay rent?
At that point, is anything free? Nothing you use is free because you need to use it, and you would not be able to use it if you were dead, so the cost of maintaining your life (food, shelter and so on) would have to be accounted into everything then.
Or you're just retarded, that's also possible.
a6d8c3 No.15950386
>>15950372
That I bought with my own money, yid.
5a8cf2 No.15950390
>>15950362
>They were cracked so that means they don't havecopy protection DRM
My sides
>>15950372
Sure thing
And PSN/Xbox Live games are "free"
e7963f No.15950431
>>15950386
>>15950390
>>15950380
It's this easy to get retards to spew the propaganda they've been taught.
ed90ea No.15950435
>>15950431
>Stating that emulation is free is propaganda
Imagine being this brain damaged
e7963f No.15950436
>>15950430
Sega's little marketing stunts are a lot of fun.
1c40c8 No.15950458
>>15950390
Seeing as they were copied, they must not.
4cce4f No.15950481
>>15946820
>Catherine Full Tranny
No thanks. I loved the first one, but it's sad to see it this way.
>>15946839
Steam, pozz, SJW, you name it.
7b7883 No.15950988
537d5e No.15951050
If I can't pirate it on my literal potato, it's DRM. Fucking BFTO, soycucks.
ff0f4a No.15951061
5055f6 No.15953067
>>15946820
That's actually pretty good. Game is great. It better not be censored.
e3b749 No.15953488
>>15946839
it what everyone else is doing so why not?
a4f0a8 No.15953544
boy i can't wait for a port of the outdated original version of the game with garbage DRM after it's already been emulatable for a couple years, that will get used as an excuse to not port other atlus games later. thanks smegma europe, you retarded fucking faggots.
659a5a No.15953616
>>15953067
It's going to be censored if it's a port of the rerelease. They have already said they are adjusting the game in development to meet soyny's guidelines. If it's a port of the old one it's probably safe though.
f16d17 No.15954299
>>15949906
Oh and one more thing I forgot to mention; Senran Kagura Burst Renewal also got a PC port along side with the PS4 version and PC version still has that petting mode in verse the PS4 version doesn't have that petting mode at all.
>>15950274
Oh dear, I can see it now.
>Gimping both the Katherine and Catherine routes by toning-down/censor the sexual implications or even changing the endings entirely
>Rewrite the whole story to push for a bland, Mary-Sue character who will be the new "true" route of the remake
I now fear for the worst to come.
<who also is a transexual
I doubt that new Mary-Sue character is a tranny because I remember seeing a pic on the internet that explain that the New Catherine character might be an angel with no genitals because of the wing print designs on the back of the clothes.
5e9e77 No.15954322
137cf0 No.15954329
>>15946820
Never played the game, how is a sheep relevant to it?
91c1ee No.15954354
>>15950283
>emulation is free because mom's pc is free and I'm not paying for virtual console games
Retarded kid. Next!
>>15950317
>emulation is free because mom's pc is free and I can play games and read manga online with it
Retarded with a dash of weeb.
Daily reminder that whoever doesn't factor in the cost of a PC in the equation for free gaming, is just a kid who never had a job in their life.
91c1ee No.15954357
>>15954329
There's sheep everywhere from monsters to logos, because this is a sophisticated game for mature audiences: so counting sheeps = sleeping
a6d8c3 No.15954365
>>15954354
Funny because I have a job and I bought my PC.
Emulation is still free.
6842ba No.15954395
>>15946820
>it's just a picture of a sheep
What does this have to do with Atlus?
91c1ee No.15954445
>>15954365
>my PC cost good money, but it came with free emulation inside!
Feels good to BTFO someone so hard they have to willingly retire in irrationality to cope.
0ac4ef No.15954466
>>15954445
>but it came with free emulation inside!
Yes, that is correct.
771eb5 No.15954508
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So which girl did you all pick? inb4 space.
5f09ac No.15954529
>>15954508
You can put a baby in Katherine and maybe she will calm down a bit, perhaps you can fix her, but Catherine is a whore and wont be anything more than that no matter what you do. Long term Katherine is best and any misery will be the result depending on how much of a beta Vincent is. Catherine is just a downward spiral while having as much fun as can be got, but ultimately burn out and wither away.
2a5954 No.15955309
>>15954445
yes, pc is backwards compatible going back decades. you get one at any time and won't have to miss out on older games and go "there will never be a remaster of kingdom under fire"
871bbf No.15955373
You guys are missing the point, IT'S NOT ABOUT ATLUS ON PC, IT'S ABOUT ALL THE SALT WE'LL GET FROM CONSOLEFAGS
235321 No.15955415
>>15955309
8th Gen shall forever be known as the Remaster Gen