/v/ - Video Games

nogaems

>Expensive

>Requires very high-end hardware

>Couldn't figure out how to remove motion sickness

<Resorted to letting you teleport everywhere instead, cementing it as a gimick that shits up the gameplay

This made it not worth developing for unless it's a silly meme game made in unity or you're a big AAA publisher that burns money on shit ideas at a daily basis. I guess there are some Japanese porn games for it though.

Too expensive for just some fancy goggles. Things ever come down to the $200 price range it'll be more popular

Motion sickness, high price and very limited range of game genres it can support. Just because it was a novel device did not mean that an industry would spring up around in an instant. People said "Uh huh, cool" and went back to their PCs and consoles.

did it fail? i thought retards worldwide were enjoying it.

>>15918752

/thread

>>15918831

>hellblade senua

why would anyone buy that piece of shit, with or without VR?

christ anon have some self respect, just because you bought a pair of googles with no games for 600 dollars doesn't mean that you have to put up with that kind of crap (((game))).

oculus failed because facebook bought it, nobody who actually wanted to invest it in wanted to touch it with a 40 foot pole after that

>>15918751

>Makes you blind.

>Makes you look like a faggot.

>The games are trash.

>Overpriced shit.

No idea why it failed Anon.

Self defeating prophecy.

>(((corporate execs))) are too stupid to see the potential of VR

>don't invest in big launch

>no advertising to hype

>no day 1 killer apps in development

>release console with no hype and no support

>it doesn't sell

>see, I was right all along!

Throughout history jews have lacked creative impulse. Their dreams amount to inflicting harm on non-jews, degeneracy, and amassing material gain. High dreams, to build colossal statues, fly, go to space, communicate across the world, and so forth, come from the white spirit.

If the right side had won the last war, who knows when VR would have become the norm, the 60s?

Motion control is the future of gaming.

>>15918751

Wait until AC7 comes out. It'll succeed alright.

It's more profitable to remake the same game over and over again than create something fundamentally new. It's a risk very few companies wanted to make.

>>15918915

>vive

>using hitachi wands instead of touch controllers

kek

I don't own a vr headset. And neither anyone I know irl. Too expensive.

Sean Malstrom explains why this piece of shit VR garbage failed in an old 2016 article of his which I will post for you niggers below:

https://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2016/07/12/success-of-pokemon-go-spells-doom-for-virtual-reality/

Pokemon Go is the biggest video game phenomenon since… Wii Sports? All Pokemon Go is Ingress with pokemon instead of portals. I know game developers who have been addicted to Ingress. Goes to show the power of the IP.

“I am playing Pokemon Go because I need to walk outside.” This was said to me by a 30 year old woman who NEVER plays video games.

Back when the Wii launched, I imagined something with the Wii-mote where you could play Duck Hunt with it but play it outside… like shoot the fantasy ducks in the sky. This is somewhat where I thought.

The secret to the Wii’s success was that it did the OPPOSITE of Virtual Reality. Virtual Reality is about REMOVING reality and REMOVING you from the world (and people). Wii did the opposite. Wii brought people together and the games did not remove you from the real world. People liked the Wii’s mission. They wanted their own house parties and thought it great to be bowling or playing tennis with the motion controller.

Pokemon Go, as that woman’s reason for playing it, is ironic in video games because we always associate video games with STAYING INSIDE. But is this true? Is this fair?

VIDEO GAMES ARE ABOUT BEING ALONE. No they aren’t. Even from the beginning, this wasn’t true.

VIDEO GAMES ARE ABOUT NOT BEING SOCIAL. But PONG and Donkey Kong started out at bars. You had to go outside to go to the arcade. And consoles have always been about multiplayer gaming.

So why have we assumed video games are about being inside? Even with the mobile cell phone games, we assumed that they were mobile games, not OUTSIDE GAMES. The paradigm shift matters.

Motion games were great because it forced us to re-realize that a video game wasn’t sitting around. Pokemon Go is making everyone realize that a game doesn’t have to be inside.

It is expanding our definition of gaming. This is why there is so much excitement for it. It is attracting all sorts of players.

We could even enter a generational divide where ‘old school’ video games meant playing games inside while ‘new school’ games meant playing video games outside. Sounds shocking to you? Welcome to future. Your grandparents were probably shocked at internet, computers, and lasers. Time marches on.

Nintendo’s stock is soaring.

We need to pay close attention to Nintendo at the moment. This Pokemon Go could transform the entire company. Then again, Pokemon Go could be a ‘fad’ (oh, that word! Remember when they always used to say it!?) that vanishes within a couple of months. We will see.

>>15918939

Nice reddit spacing

>>15918941

Faggot millenial this is how normal people on the internets spaced before your homo-trans-faggot generation came about.

The shit has nothing to do with reddit.

>>15918945

Just goes to show there were people with no sense even before Reddit.

>>15918915

>622 hours in VRchat

how? the hell do you do in that game apart from interacting with epic reddit ironic weeb memesters?

No "killer app".

I'm not sure it failed, I don't think it will ever get mass appeal. For certain games and…… tasks, a VR headset is something an enthusiast will get to increase their experience. Plus it requires a pretty decent PC to get running well. All the devs developing for it don't actually play videogames, so games specifically made for VR fucking suck cock.

Also if you get motion sickness you are an inferior human being

>>15919028

I thought the "killer app" was supposed to be porn.

>>15919028

Nigger there has literally never been a killer app for anything. That's been marketer grease for investors to hear after trying to sell failing systems while claiming it's not their fault.

The issue is with the system, not the software available.

Because VR sucks and there isn't really a way to make compelling gaming work and it's cumbersome and annoying to use so nobody wants to use it over a big screen on a wall.

>price hike near launch from 300 to nearly 700

>only had tech demos at launch

>was a peripheral

gee, I wonder why

>>15918949

That's not really a measure of anything, $250 anime girl figurines sell out in Japan.

>>15919036

Super Mario Brothers, Sonic the Hedgehog, Mortal Kombat with blood, Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, GTA 3/VC/SA, Halo/2, and a shitload more. Maybe you don't know what a killer app is.

>>15919051

If you unironically believe the main driving factors behind those systems reaching the sales points that they did, you're retarded.

>>15918973

>this much projection

Then stop making reddit-tier posts with retarded spacing then. Otherwise, go back to where your shit formatting belongs. >>>/reddit/

>>15919031

That died when oculus rift got sold to facebook. Sony is no better. The makers of vr headsets being fucking prudes.

>>15918795

>Couldn't figure out how to remove motion sickness

It really pains me that I'm like the only person that doesn't suffer from this, because VR could be very good for other people if they didn't get sick. I quite enjoy it.

>>15919094

I don't suffer from it either in most games. Motion sickness from games is wildly inconsistent between individuals, I get it within 20 minutes every time I try to play Half-Life 2 on a regular screen but the vast majority of VR games I've tried are fine (EVE Valkyrie was the only one I tried that made me sick).

Motion control input.

A man can dream…

overpriced piece of shit with

>>15918752

>>15919126

>Taking the magazine out of someone's rifle

>Those knife options

This would work yeah.

>>15918939

>Then again, Pokemon Go could be a ‘fad’

Turns out it was. Can I conclude that the article was wrong?

>>15919126

dude

Completely overdesigned.

People just wanted a cool headset worth maybe hundred dollars or so at most which they could use to look around at cool virtual worlds, play some games where the sort of thing is practical and look at loads of porn.

Instead the tech giants had to jump on it and try and make it the "next big thing" by forcing a bunch of shit in which no one wanted like motion control (which resulted in the games being made for it looking like gimmicky shit), trying to perfect screen quality to try and combat the honestly tolerable "screen door effect", and attain a new level of jewery by making peripheral exclusive games a thing. All that inflated the price tag into "not worth it" territory.

>>15919126

fuck. yes.

>>15918751

Oculus in general is bad, last time I heard it induces vr sickness a lot more than something like a htc vive. It was the first vr headset so it's no big surprise. But if you mean vr in general then it hasn't failed but it hasn't really risen, they're plenty of games but they're not exactly genre defining master pieces. Games like gorn or budget cuts are fun to play but most people can't afford or don't want to buy a vr headset.

>>15918795

Some games use the teleporting in a pretty good way, like budget cuts but others use standard movement like gorn Also vr sickness is more of a first time thing, after using it for a while it should disappear but some people have it worse than others.

>>15918945

You don't need a space every line though anon.

It's just dumb, you use a space after a long winded paragraph so it's easier to

read but like this it's just fucking autis

tic.

Didn't they ban porn on their store?

>>15919162

Motion control is good. People don't think they want it, but they do, it just has to be done right.

>>15918994

There are specialized rooms and spaces built around smaller games inside of it. Escape rooms, combat spaces with guns and melee weapons, a pong like space, etc. it isn’t just sitting in a room and listening to autistic people screech.

>>15919178

vrchat and porn, preferably loli are pretty much the only reason I want vr. also I really want a game where I can stab someone in a really immersive way

>>15918751

it's expensive

that's it

>>15919181

>VR porn is still watching another man fuck a girl

Why is this cuck shit acceptable?

>>15919094

There are ways to minimize motion sickness, like blurring and darkening the edges and corners of the screen (like a flashlight effect) and making movement acceleration very gradual rather than 0 to 100. A wide FOV and Framerate of at least 90 help as well. However, research showed that 25% of participants got motion sick no matter what methods they used and that sickness never went away. I think close to 75% got motion sick at some point, but it went away for most after some time.

The bigger problem, however, is nogaems. For as often thrown around as this term is, the PS4 and Switch have games to play, even if they're absolute shit, they're games that normalfags want, like GoW and BotW. The biggest VR games have been Resident Evil 7 and fucking Skyrim. If those rumors about Half Life VR were true (and they're not), then perhaps that would be some incentive to try VR out.

>>15918751

Cost, hardware needed. Could have remade Kings Field in VR and it would have been the best game ever.

Idk

>>15918751

>Can someone explain to me why this did fail?

<eye cancer

<crappy games

<expensive

<need to get a whole matrix cable attached to it

<screen gets covered with dirt constantly

1: expensive.

It's essentially an overpriced attachment to your computer. You are paying upwards of 500 dollars to get something for your computer, which should be decent and might require investment to even use.

2: Small library.

Lots of games have gimmicks, but overall for the price you'd pay for a VR setup you get a very small library of potential games. Some games like Skyrim add retroactive comparability but I'm sure the number of games that do that well can be counted on one hand

3: Space and Motion controls

With the wii's wagglan, xbone's camera, and some other gimmicks it's been proven time and time again that motion controls are a gimmick. There's the odd exception like Beat Saber, but people usually will prefer to sit down and relax rather than get up and be overly active while playing vidya. On top of this you need to devote a respectable size of empty space to make sure you don't punch a wall or slam your expensive controllers into a surface that's less forgiving. Based on the battlestation threads of olde, that's not exactly something most people would do or are able to do…except normalfags who would only treat it as a FOTM toy and not a serious potential tool for games to be played with.

Basically, as cool as it is, until fulldive VR is a thing that is reasonably affordable it won't kick off in any big way.

>>15919127

>that winning smile in the second webm

Also that reminds me of something VR games seem to lack: waifus.

Let's be completely honest here: the people who would invest in VR are also the sorts highly weak to waifus and cute girls. If the other three points mentioned >>15919582 were somehow fixed (and the issue of nobody deciding on a standard to work around) they would need to pander to this and hard. At least at first there'd have to be some games where you would get a waifu or husbando and interact wit them. There's a reason Pornhub has a VR section and why I learned of Google Cardboard through pornhub (((Modern media))) would have you believe otherwise, but the waifu market is potent and if someone can tap into it, they could make a nifty profit easily. Case in point: furries.

>>15919606

>nobody deciding on a standard to work around

well openXR is supposedly going to solve that.

I'm getting a oculus rift tomorrow. What games should I pirate

>>15919181

I want to make a VR game where you walk into your wife fucking another dude, but instead of turning into NTR fetish cuck shit, it turns into a high score simulator. This is the first stage. You must kill every member of your household (as they all knew), and then proceed to go ape on the neighborhood and kill random faggots and that neighbor with the annoying voice. It will be marketed as cuck shit, but then the first thing you do will be ending your cucked status and reclaiming your destiny. You also get to fuck a loli at the end if you kill enough.

vr can't be all bad didn't one guy finally marry his waifu?

People either want really amazing AR shit that blends with real life or virtual reality that feels like you are in it. The AR side is barely touched and/or limited. The VR side doesn't do anything better then regular games already do, and often these vr games are worse; Not a lot of real movement, camera is a bitch, you need a giant room to move around in, on top of being shovelware crap. Still doesn't feel like VR is there yet, and that waiting for some new innovation is better then trying out the crap right now.

>>15919582

>people usually will prefer to sit down and relax rather than get up and be overly active while playing vidya

This right here is key

Jewgle it, you nigger.

>>15920079

and this is why you will always be a gay retard, who's borderline a bugman

>>15918795

>Couldn't figure out how to remove motion sickness

Its only in simulator games where you drive/pilot stuff.

>>15918831

Have to agree with this anon. Honestly, it has reinvigorated my falling interest in vidya. I hope to see it progress, but I definitely do enjoy it for what it is right now.

>>15918873

> my dude

> fucken

Where do these unironic niggerspeak posters come from?

>>15919480

i had people like you in my mind when i made that post

I got a WMR for ~200 and have been very happy with what i have done with it so far. Brutal doom translates great to vr, elite dangerous with plugin to only use motion controls, just chilling with friends in vrchat.

>>15919211

>>15919181

>being addicted to porn and proud of it

>>15918939

What a bunch of jewish bullshit. Gaming was always about escapism.

>But PONG and Donkey Kong started out at bars.

Where people would go to drown the outside world in alcohol.

>They wanted their own house parties

Living the fake commercial fantasy is what they wanted.

>So why have we assumed video games are about being inside?

Because playing games means longing for that sweet security bubble where you can forget the real life hellhole.

>we assumed that they were mobile games, not outside games

There is a reason they call them smartphone zombies. They're braindead slaves to the mobile jew.

>Motion games were great because it forced us to re-realize that a video game wasn’t sitting around.

Yet every complain about motion games were the restrictions on freedom of choice.

>Pokemon Go is making everyone realize that a game doesn’t have to be inside.

And yet we played a way more content heavy Pokemon game nearly 30 years ago…outside, on our mobile Game Boys. Do you not see how the kikes stole creativity from mankind and instead invested in brainwashing the consumer into accepting literal trash for more and more money?

>It is expanding our definition of gaming.

Horseshit! The definition is interactivity. Something we get less and less these days.

>This is why there is so much excitement for it.

So much bought excitement that each and every newly released game has to be defended for months against complaining game communities. online console wars have more interactivity, creativity and honest motivation than games these days.

>It is attracting all sorts of players.

Diversity bitches…genociding us all into a mass of degenerate lunatics with identity issues gave our hobby so much…don't you love the draconian censorship? PLS NO BAN FOR SARCASM.

>We could even enter a generational divide

My ass. When you're not sucking retro dick you play non games, while the old guard is fleeing by sheer resentment for the quality of the entire industry.

>Nintendo’s stock is soaring.

OMG the rich is getting richer while I have to play copy+paste Zelda for 200 hours or pay for babies first Pokemon game with micro transactions.

LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOURSELF, KIKE!

>>15918751

G I M M I C K

>>15920332

>why do you think PS1 and PS2 era consoles had good launch titles and sold well, yet PS3 and PS4 era consoles didn't and were massive fucking memes on launch day

That one I don't know. Why?

>>15920390

>else then I want it to look as real as possible.

Nigger if reality is so horrible why the fuck would you want your alternative reality in VR to replicate it to intense detail

You don't even believe your own shit

>>15920395

>That one I don't know. Why?

To clarify: I know why PS4 is shit: Sony moved to California. but why was the PS3 so lackluster in terms of experiences I don't know. The graphics were good, there were several AAA games, but it all felt so bland for some reason.

>>15920413

Because at that point they had already eliminated experimental (A) and lower budget games (AA) for the sake of blockbuster garbage for the masses (AAA). In came the indie devs to fill the needs, which were basically the castrated generation of inventors after the original, and of course the big corporate money making scheme was already so advanced that they destroyed and incorporated the entire indie scene in less than a decade. Nowadays we're only left with low quality Patreon scammers, organized crime asset flippers, and amateur devs on newgrounds level. This of course doesn't really matter anymore since the corporate nation wreckers have already ditched the pursuit of quality content for the sake of aggressively advertising the costumers into accepting literally any shit thrown into their direction.

>>15920413

>I know why PS4 is shit: Sony moved to California

That happened years after the PS4's launch. PS4 was shit because 8th gen is even deeper in the "just an underspec'd overpriced PC with walled garden" pit than 7th gen became.

theres no games worth playing on VR

tell me 10 titles anyone would pay for and are comparable to say modern AAA titles

there arent any, its full of "experimental" stuff most of the people dont want

>>15920671

>Then, why?

Because it's about making money, not about creating art. In fact capitalism today specifically dismantles all abilities from the individual. Creativity, productivity, ownership, free speech, freedom of choice, monetary holdings, nationally, culture and freedom of the individual itself are all in the process to be destroyed so that it can be ruled as a faceless commodity. In memespeak…they won't allow us any fun. Therefore we're nothing but numbers.

I'm about to buy the HTC Vive. Probably gonna drop 600$ in total from trading in some Apple products I got for Christmas in for the VR and accecories. Thoughts?

>>15920711

>im about to buy a 600$ turd with no games

>Thoughts?

you're retarded

>>15920715

It's in store credit at a electronic store. What else would I get?

>>15918751

it was on its path to being the next big thing.

then faceberg bought it and nobody wanted any part of it.

>>15920730

batteries.

>>15918751

Same reason a good chunk of technology fails: walled garden kikery, proprietary hardware/technology, locked down, lack of standards, lack of interoperability. (On top of hardware requirements and lack of games).

Android would have gone the same way given mobile phones' lack of a standard firmware platform causing OS fragmentation. To make up for it Jewgle had to add lots of cruft like Jewgle Play Services and API levels (otherwise new apps would only work on the newest phones and Jewgle would lose a big chunk of market share). It's also the prime reason they had to develop a middleware layer (treble) sitting between platform-specific code and the OS to get the newest, shittiest, and more bloated versions of Android to work on older phones and lower porting costs.

>>15920730

A new monitor? Headphones? A synth? SSDs? Maybe just waiting, and not buying dead technology?

>>15918752

/thread

More specifically, they kept pandering to normalfag as a platform for consumer goods when in reality only three people would ever buy this:

1) Shut ins desperate to get high quality waifu pornography

2) Show offs that just buy shit because it's expensive

3) Developers for tertiary industries trying to improve their jobs by having less expensive simulators and performing actions on robotics from their own houses, i.e. flight simulators and ASMR

>>15918795

>>15919094

I've seen two great ways to remove the motion sickness, one being putting a stationary object in the field of vision of the player, so that their brains sees themselves as being inside a cage or a robot or something else and doesn't need to vomit all the time, and making the player stationary and the world around him move to meet his needs.

>>15919227

>that manlet goal area

uh

>>15920876

It can be pretty fun but the best enjoyment comes, from what I've seen, the ability to actually physically move and translate your movement irl into the game. Like the other anon said, you'll either find a comfy room and some people who are genuinely enjoyable and charming to speak to or you will be horrified by pure fucking disgust.

The room-scale meme is the bane of VR, and is what keeps it from growing into anything more than a flight-sim accessory. People want to sit the fuck down while playing games. Most VR controllers aren't designed to handle character movement from the seated position, and instead rely on a gay-ass "teleport" to move around.

WMR has the only good controllers for it I've seen so far (because it's just an Xbox controller but split in half). Unfortunately, Serious Sam VR is the only game series to take advantage of this, by allowing the character to move and turn using analog sticks, like EVERY OTHER GAME EVER, so I can point and shoot my guns while jumping through bullets, all while relaxing in my chair. If more games could handle movement in this regular fashion, VR could become god-tier for first person shooters.

VR will always be a meme until we have direct-connection neural jacks surgically implanted into the base of our necks.

And that shit will be a hard pass for me, imagine if somebody hijacked your connection? I can see some horror stories coming from that.

>>15920912

>VR will always be a meme until we have direct-connection neural jacks surgically implanted into the base of our necks.

Why only the base of your neck? Whats special about that part?

>>15920851

I got 2 monitors already, got headphones too.. synth? no I don't think so and don't need that either…

>>15918751

It didn't, what are you talking about? VR ownership is on the rise and games are keep getting released, new headsets and controllers keep being developed.

>>15920876

If you don't own VR, do the rest of us a favor and don't install VRchat. Windows Mixed Reality headset + controllers bundles go for $200 nowdays tho, that shit's cheaper than a good monitor.

>>15920915

Matrix reference I assume

>>15920904

VrChat is great for taking the piss out of people so go for it, just find the right places and let the salt flow.

>>15920954

>matrix reference

Even if that was a plug-in matrix-like VR shitters like that would still find reasons to complain. Like that it needs the plug at all, or some nonsense like that it blocks your real senses.

>>15920970

Nigger, desktop VRchat players are like distorted cripples in a wheelchair at your party. They move like 99% of their body muscles don't function, it's not a fun thing to look at.

>>15920970

>What's next, you going to be a proud owner of an Elon Musk personal jetpacking apparatus?

If I owned a jetpack, I'd be pretty proud of that, anon.

>>15920975

I'd definitely complain, the thought of something jacking into my body freaks me the fuck out. It'd be awesome and in the ideal world not dangerous at all but for all we know we'll either get a and I hate to say the forbidden words but SAO situation or a situation where you can hack the link and shut down the brain or something. All theoretical of course but it's definitely something interesting.

If it were 100% proven to be completely safe I'd definitely use it. I'd probably use it if it weren't safe anyway

>>15920990

You're currently using a computer that's not safe. Something can go terribly wrong and the piece of shit will arc mains voltage across 5v bus and electrocute you through the keyboard via tiny sweaty ball hair sticking out between the keys somewhere. Or if you're posting this from a phone, it can straight up explode in your face at any moment.

>>15920998

We've had computers and phones for years though, it's an external thing. Something attached into your body is a lot more concerning than a mobile, I do get what you're saying though. Either way I'd be up for testing that shit but I feel like a lot of people would be way to scared for it.

>>15920700

>making money

*spending money

The aim is to spend as much money as possible so that their cut is larger. They don't care if they make money. Look at how much they have failed.

>capitalism

*corporate socialism / communism. Globalist leftism. Don't call leftist corruption capitalism.

>>15918751

>Can someone explain to me why this did fail?

I can't into webm making but this pretty much sums up the beginning

That and the intial lack of games

>>15920980

I would too IF it were a functioning one with lots of fuel.

>>15921004

It's not elitism, the thing is literally cheaper than upgrading to a meme 144hz monitor and is a better fucking visual medium than a desktop screen. I'm just saying that desktop VRchat avatars look super creepy and bum everyone out, all they do is move the head in a jerky unnatural fashion. A white cube controlled by a VR set looks kinda like a human, but any avatar controlled with a mouse looks like a fucking creepy animatronic.

>>15920671

>7th gen weren't PCs, they were all PowerPC and Cell Broadband Engine (also Power Architecture).

That's not where the complaints compared to PCs were from 6th to 8th gen, remember the things people usually ticked off were stuff like:

<day 1 bugfix patches for games

<bugfix patches for firmware

<mandatory installs

<always online

<digital only

<dlc

<on-disc dlc

<can't back up or transfer saves

<no splitscreen mp

<no lan mp

<have to use official servers for online mp

8th gen, aside from making all that the rule rather than the exception, only added insult to injury, with:

<underspec'd even compared to similarly priced pcs even before launch day

>>15920862

>I've seen two great ways to remove the motion sickness

You forgot the most obvious one: Have players adapt to VR, just like we adapted to earlier gens of 3D games. Anyone remember back when the likes of Wolfenstein and Descent shipped, and large numbers of subhumans were getting full on toss-your-cookies motionsick from it for a few years until they adapted?

>>15920974

>Deus Ex was a product in a shelf produced by a corporation

Gaming was a smaller and more ephemeral industry, relying entirely on sales from people who played games for fun, produced by studios that died and were replaced more regularly. Nowadays, a safe cushion of whalebux from microtransactions and subscriptions renders the upper echelons of the game industry completely invulnerable to fluctuations. The closest thing to that in the old days was yearly sportsball releases to ChadBros.

Also, while what I'm about to say actually is impossible aside from somehow unfucking KickStarter to fix unlike the above, the smaller scope of games imposed by technical limitations meant small groups of penniless hobbyists could and did regularly build bleeding-edge AAA games. For instance, the basis of Deus Ex's engine, Unreal, was written primarily by BBS randoms from the demoscene who'd never even met face to face.

>>15921007

>corporatism

>n-n-n-not real capitalism!

>>15921006

I don't think mere sensory connection (sight, hearing, touch, etc.) woud necessarily be as dangerous as a true brain-computer interface (for instance, the capability of cyberbrains in GitS to directly read and write memories).

All its games are simplistic trash. Also wearing shit on your head that blinds you while flailing your arms around in your house will swiftly teach you why it's a bad idea. Also just generally wearing shit on your head to play games is retarded.

>>15920954

>>15920894

>>15920882

I'm gonna stream it my virgin vr chat experience on the same platform metokur has been using for the past couple of weeks, if anybody wants to join

>>15920375

>Glove-based controllers

good luck never knowing when you've actually moved your finger enough for the game to register.

buttons are just superior.

>>15920375

Ironically, the Dell headset with 4K per eye is about $200.

>>15921208

I think there are some devices capable of detecting nerve impulses through the skin rather than sensing movement. I'll see if I can dig up sauce later.

>>15918752

vr has plenty of games

the fuck are you on about?

>>15921232

There are, but they're infinitely more cost-prohibitive, usually restricted to research.

>>15921233

it aint the quantity its the quality

theres hardly any high production stuff, nearly everything is throwaway

and when theres quality stuff its god awful for one or two reasons, like no locomotion, being dull as stone or straight up copying mechanics from other games really badly

i am not trying to bash the game since i think devs did good job at it

but beatsaber is basicly guitar hero with different view, its waste of time

>>15921233

a bunch of polygonal shapes randomly moving around hardly constitutes a game. you got VR chat, and super hot VR, and beatsaber (which is just blocks coming at you at the rythm of a tune), what the fuck else do you have that can even compare to the sheer level of entertainment a game like dark souls, or zelda, or xcom, or final fantasy brings to the table?

>>15921292

As mentioned earlier, Serious Sam and flight/space sims, but that's it until more devs abandon room-scale and adopt non-teleport movement systems. I can't even play superhot VR because I don't have space for that and it has no options.

>>15919330

Best Buy has Occulus demos, if you happen to be there when the Occulus rep is there (which is rare) and if their setup is actually working (which is even more rare).

>>15921292

Also Pavlov and Rec Room

>>15921285

Part of my old job was supposed to be pitching mixed reality to customers, but I never figured out what you're supposed to actually do with a MR set. All of the training was going over the advantages of a MR set over a full VR one (TEN MINUTE SETUP TIME!), but they apparently weren't intended for gaming like a full VR set. The training was just a combination of marketing buzzwords and videos of how to set up the MR set; they never said what people were supposed to actually do with this set if they bought it, or what applications could go with it. I don't understand why Microsoft even developed it at all, or who the intended market is.

It didn't help that the store didn't have a MR demo and none of us got to try it, so we just pretended it didn't exist (and not one customer ever actually asked about it).

>>15921007

>>15920974

>rant about capitalism

I said "capitalism today". Give me a break.

>Old games were made to make money.

Sure but back then the ones wanting the money didn't castrate, censor, or attack the creators. It's also not wrong to make money. The problem is greed, the biggest weapon jews wield under usury, because once you have so much money that you think is justifiable to commit treason against the producer, the product and the costumers, by ripping them all off in pursuit of more money…that's the point were natural law must intervene with a group of honest people carrying a rope.

And don't forget that the greedy are only the symptom of deeper sickness. Jewish capitalism always works on the same principal…destroying the the past, exploiting the present and corrupting the future.

How does that work for games? Their copyright scheme destroyed access to the past, while giving them the sole power to sell you alternative versions of games you should've get for free. Not even the few creative minds who want to build on past achievements are secure from the greedy destruction of those vultures (as seen in the mod scene). Next the present…literally organized crime playing every trick in the book to rob money from costumers, overworking their artists, outsourcing their quality-control, and twisting the basics of gaming every which way they see fit. As for the future…even less effort put into games, while the players are getting head-fucked into becoming satisfied by watching others play their games, or let professional marketing liars tell them how much the product doesn't suck, or bribe the players themselves into tricking each other to enjoy bare-bones trash (Fortnite).

This is all deliberate, and is going on in every human institution across the globe, that is linked to capitalism. They did this to all of entertainment, literature, healthcare, education, the food industry, politics, the economy etc. And the scary revelation behind it is that they don't do it to because they want it…they do it so that we don't have it.

>>15921440

>(((euro)))

when is the eu dying?

>>15921488

If you look down and see your hands on a keyboard instead of holding Molotov cocktails ready for Brussels, then I have bad news for you anon.

>>15920974

>hurr durr only leftykikes oppose capitalism

>who was hitler

>what was nationalsocialism

Dumbass.

>muh closed platform walled garden trash (way to uphold your principles Carmack)

>no controllers like with the Vive that give it appeal as an actual VR game platform instead of just monitor goggles that give you a headache and strain your neck

>no games because of aforementioned reasons

Vive isn't perfect either but it's obvious why they succeeded compared to the Homunculus Shit.

>>15921515

ummm but he let private companies exist??

>>15921515

Regardless, it isn't the same as marxism, which is what almost everyone here defines as 'left'.

>>15920327

Downloading now.

>>15921515

Despite the economic authoritarianism of NatSoc, Hitler didn't intervene that much in the economy once things were settled in (which is to say, less than modern USA interferes with the economy), which would make him firmly right-wing by most modern standards.

>>15921526

So does modern Europe and even China. Left and right are meaningless and describe a hodgepodge of platforms which have no actual relation to each other so fucktards who are totally uninformed feel justified in voting at least in American politics

>>15921534

>which would make him firmly right-wing by most modern standards.

Okay dude, trying to make the argument that hitler was right wing because "muh relativism" with the current hellscape of corporatism in america is fucking dumb.

>>15921539

Anon said "by modern standards," and the current hellscape is the modern standard.

>>15921506

You have capitalism to thank for Deus Ex. You have cronyism and jews to thank for Blizzard, EA, and the rest. Even microtransaction whales - if society wasn't engineered to produce idiots, they would be outbred or be forcefully commited to an asylum for the mentally deficient.

>>15921548

Capitalism wasn't responsible for Deus Ex; it was the specific creators of the game who are responsible, and they would've still been alive and able to create it if it wasn't capitalism that they lived under.

Capitalism and communism are both kiked trash, and it's astounding that anyone would support either.

>>15921534

Most people don't even begin to know anything about the economic policy of NatSoc, though. If you ask any American conservative, they'll say Hitler was a leftist because of his social programs and authoritarianism. If you ask any American liberal, they'll say Hitler was right wing because of racism and authoritarianism. It's totally pointless.

>>15921548

>cronyism

<n-n-n-n-not real capitalism!!!

>if society wasn't engineered to produce idiots, they would be outbred

<idiots

<ever being outbred

>>15921544

Yeah but a free market isn't a sliding scale. You either have just the laws to maintain it or you don't.

>>15921579

The bare-minimum approach is only needed to qualify as a libertarian; right wing is more lenient, allowing more regulation for societal benefit, while not exceeeding the control threshold required for modern liberalism, which is a very easy bar for Hitler to pass.

>>15921561

><n-n-n-n-not real capitalism!!!

It isn't you literal retard. Antitrusts and the restriction of politicians and state governments from acting as agents of a corporation are inherently part of a capitalistic system.

>>15921585

>they needed to feed themselves

That would've still been possible under Nationalsocialism. Capitalism is kiked trash, and every image you posted is an example of what happens when businesses are allowed to do anything they want to because 'muh free market'.

Under a Nationalsocialist system, those images wouldn't be the situation.

>>15921592

<antitrust is capitalist

inb4 real capitalism has never been tried

>>15921594

>That would've still been possible under Nationalsocialism

Oh, I agree on that. But National Socialism does not clamp down on the free market in the way communist socialism does. Hitler wouldn't nationalize every industry, nor would he unionize the job market. Natsoc guides the freedom people have, not decide for them.

In short - National Socialism is more friendly to the free market than you give it credit. As long as you don't work to destroy a country and its morals, you should be free to do anything.

>>15921609

antitrust laws are inherently capitalistic because they prevent the formation of an extrafederal "government" influence on the market

drop dead retard.

>>15921613

This. NatSoc economy (while obviously socialist in spirit) was mostly just capitalism in practice, with numerous exceptions of course.

>>15921613

Are you aware of what trusteeship was? First, many industries were nationalized. Those that weren't were under a system of trusteeship, in which they operated semi-independently but still answered to the state.

Next, Hitler supposed the concept of trade unions, and only opposed the ones that existed because they had been subverted and taken over by Marxists. After he took power, he established a single, national union with subdivisions according to profession/trade.

Businesses in the Third Reich were not allowed to do anything they wanted, and were required to work in accordance with the plan decided on by the government, if they weren't already nationalized (which many indeed were).

>>15921622

>NatSoc was capitalist in practice

No, it wasn't. See above.

>>15921627

Hitler supported* not supposed

>>15921627

I said, "with numerous exceptions," hence

>many industries were nationalized

The thing is that the vast majority weren't. Obviously it isn't like (((free market))) capitalism.

>>15918751

lack of games?

>>15921645

The problem is that you're assuming that because it wasn't communist - and it wasn't - that it was therefore capitalist, atleast partially. It wasn't either capitalist or communist; those aren't the only two systems in existence.

Just because something isn't communist doesn't make it 'partially capitalist'.

>>15921659

>It wasn't either capitalist or communist

I understand that, anon. But to call it "opposed to capitalism" when capitalism is largely integrated into its economy would be incorrect. It is partially capitalist, and entirely National Socialist. Can we agree on that?

>>15921662

You're confusing regulation with totalitarianism.

>>15921667

>It is partially capitalist, and entirely National Socialist. Can we agree on that?

no

>>15921667

No, we can't agree on that. It was explicitly and practically anticapitalist. It opposed all of the things which define capitalism.

>>15921659

>Just because something isn't communist doesn't make it 'partially capitalist'.

Capitalism values money and productivity. National Socialism values prosperity and betterment. Without jews, both would be highly correlated.

>>15921671

>It opposed all of the things which define capitalism.

Selling goods for currency was a thing in the Third Reich, anon. So from the start it can't be opposed to all defining aspects.

The funny part is that we're all NatSocs arguing semantics, and the systems we would create are identical with slightly different labelling.

>>15921689

Well, and an ancap, but you people have never created a working country.

>>15921682

>Once VR is cheaper and the anti motion sickness sensory tech fools your ears well enough, it will become viable for Gaems. Until then it's a porn gimmick.

When VR is cheaper it will be a less expensive porn gimmick. The only hope for VR is Nintendo betting on it heavily, and even then it can go the way of IR-based gyro.

>>15921689

You don't count.

>>15921678

>selling goods for currency is what defines capitalism

Wrong.

>>15921677

Capitalism only values money, which is why under capitalism, all the productive capacity of nations is drained or just shipped away to get more money. Even feudalism would be better than capitalism.

>>15921723

>Even feudalism would be better than capitalism.

So you'd rather live in Saudi Arabia than California?

>>15921233

Most VR games are trash though. Of the VR games I've seen the only ones I can recommend are Gorn, Subnautica and Pavlov. There's also RE7 but that's only PSVR and I can't recommend someone buy PSVR just for one game. A friend bought me the Lenovo Explorer for christmas, that's a $250 VR set for 3 games I actually enjoyed playing. That's not worth the cash investment and the time investment required to get over the motion sickness VR causes.

Where's the super in-depth vehicle simulators? Where's my mecha pilot game? Where's the porn games that aren't fucking garbage? Even games perfect for VR like trucking simulator don't have native VR support.

Fuck all these shitty job simulators. If I wanted to suffer working fast food or retail again I'd just burn my degree and grab a McDonald's job application.

>>15921683

>We're all NatSocs

>We

Fuck you, I'm an American. I like capitalism and the republic I was born into. All I want to do is tear down the corporate oligarchy because I want my country to be run by elected officials I voted for, not whichever jew has the deepest pockets.

>>15921723

>Capitalism only values money

And NatSoc values wealth among other things. 'Partially,' see?

>>15921758

>Money, markets, and trade aren't capitalist

Every capitalist will disagree with you on this.

>>15920974

>>15921548

>>15921553

>>15921585

>>15921677

>Old games were made to make money. Deus Ex was a product in a shelf produced by a corporation.

Yeah. That's the only reason we have anything. I'm sure firefighters only do it for the money. I'm sure people only join the army, for the money. Become a paramedic. Become an Olympic athlete. Become a crossing guard. An artist. A paramedic. A bartender. A programmer. A housewife, to look after and raise the kids. What we had were creators that wanted to create and their medium was video games. Nowadays, yes, there are far too many talentless hacks only in it for the money. Sit around all day and make some point and clicker about their personal nonstruggle, see (((Depression Quest))).Thank those that undermine the free market for their own greed, keeping things on the downward spiral.

>>15921526

left basically means 'you work, I eat', everything else is meaningless details, Hitler wanted to share your income to the others, so he was leftist

>>15921780

>Yeah. That's the only reason we have anything

No, it's one reason. But you need some degree of selfish incentive for a society to work. Otherwise you're trying to build the soviet man.

>>15921776

Capitalism didn't exist with any regularity before the 1700s, owing to its dependence on republicanism for enforcement of private property and contracts, neither of which are required for money/markets/trading (themselves far from universal, nor even dependent on any of the other two) to operate. Most of history was not capitalist.

>>15921810

>12 hours to still be wrong and not understand the point and existence of niche markets

whew

>>15921806

>Capitalism didn't exist with any regularity before the 1700s

I believe you are referring to 'mercantilism,' which IS a highly kiked economic view.

>owing to its dependence on republicanism for enforcement of private property and contracts

While these contracts could be revoked under NatSoc (or ANY government for that matter), they were still enforced. Also republicanism has no inherent tie to capitalism, as it is an exclusively politica concept.

>>15920380

>Has ANYONE to date done even the smallest scale formal study on any or all of the following questions?

I kind of doubt VR companies haven't done at least some small scale tests, so it's probably bad enough for them not to say anything about it.

>>15921827

Mercantilism existed only as an intermediary mechanism of transmission between fiefdoms under feudalism, and was not a mode of production for any society.

>they were still enforced

No, they were completely illegal. All things (including people) were "owned" by the nobility (property as such did not exist), and agreements akin to contracts were valid only insofar as the whims of a higher noble did not contradict them, because they existed only as the written form of the noble's will.

>>15921841

>agreements akin to contracts were valid only insofar as the whims of a higher noble did not contradict them

This is true of any state ever. Name a single capitalist nation that hasn't done this.

>>15920387

>unironically wanting that to be the "standard" and what level of design to aimed for when making games

I don't get it, what's wrong with 4k per eye? Should we go 8k?

>>15921847

It's wasteful as fuck on resources and it opts to pick a bigger canvas then learning to condense things and improve the readability which is the purpose of the visual medium for presenting a game.

Potentially there's a point for presentation pieces which is another use of VR but as far as games go, making readability of elements second to fidelity is bad design.

>>15921853

>It's wasteful as fuck on resources

What's next, you'll say VR doesn't need 120Hz+?

>>15921845

Property and contracts can only be overturned (for instance, through eminent domain) after lengthy legal procedures in exceptional cases.

By contrast, feudalism didn't even have laws, but "writs" of noble intent. At a whim, any noble from a baron to an emperor could alter or eliminate them without a moment's notice.

>>15921855

that's a noncomparison.

>>15921853

Look up "foveal rendering". Since the human eye only has full visual acuity within 3-degree radius from center, eye-tracking combined with high-FPS displays could eliminate the need to render an entire scene at full resolution.

>>15921805

>can't into sarcasm

>>15921863

Assuming the interlocutor might be a commie fucks with my sense of sarcasm.

>>15921862

Here's a decent video on the subject. Note that deferred rendering and view warping, already crucial to VR latency, are even more important for the constant microsecond movements of eye saccades.

>>15921892

There's not actually that much in the difference in readability of that image, like, yeah, obviously the pimax has the best quality but visually it can all be read in all 3

>>15921884

You are right to put the boot to the neck of communists but do not disregard the destruction capitalism has endured. Any system will be poked and proded, perverted for ones own ends over time. This is simply our way, to make games of everything. It's the lawmakers and leaders that have allowed for the wittling down of laws that uphold capitalism that are to blame. Of course, outside of those who try to harm the free market. A pox on them and their foul ilk.

>>15921948

On 4k screens, you don't see it when you don't want to, but it is visible if you try to spot it.

VRChat is a sight to behold.

It's like taking every annoying kid you knew from your forum days, the squeebs, the attention whores, drama queens and other annoying faggots and putting them all in the same room where every OwO *nuzzles you* is audible and people keep trying to one up each other in a meme game since Uganda Knuckles has been banned, I guess.

This was awful, it was only worth installing so that now I know EXACTLY how bad things really are.

Video is still uploading and will probably be taken down because some guy with heavy lisp walked around as a naked loli complaining that the bartender stole his clothes.

>>15922445

>It's like taking every annoying kid you knew from your forum days, the squeebs, the attention whores, drama queens and other annoying faggots and putting them all in the same room where every OwO *nuzzles you* is audible and people keep trying to one up each other in a meme game since Uganda Knuckles has been banned, I guess

Makes me never ever ever want to go anywhere ever near VRChat seeing the amount of autism on it

>>15922445

As >>15918915 said, that sounds exactly like Second Life (and every other invariably ERP-infested "avatar"-based chat/MMO service back to The Palace) in every detail.

>>15920954

I joined a chess room in VR chat once. One of the fags actually playing was using a communist anime girl player model (was a man). Being the enterprising individual that I am, I started subtly putting removed chess pieces on the board. The fag eventually caught me in the act and screeched about it, taking the pieces I added off. Now, the other player had to go soon for whatever reason, so he made it clear that they had to finish soon. I let them continue playing for a short while longer before I started wildly grabbing chess pieces off the board and putting them at the faggot's feet. The other player just said "okay, I have to go now" and fucked off. The faggot came up to me and started screeching at me, asking "why the fuck did you do that! I bet you're one of those neckbeard basement dwellers, fuck you! reeeeeeeee!". I respond with a long and well spoken "lol" and leave for straighter pastures.

>>15922643

What's the appeal supposed to be in these avatar MMOs? Being around insufferable faggots doesn't seem fun to me yet there is always thousands of people online. I have a strange feeling of pity for these kinds of people whenever I see them roleplaying but I don't know why.

>>15921757

>Elected officials

>Jews with deep pockets

>imblying they're not one in the same

Anon..I..

>>15923150

>if you oppose capitalism then you're a leftist

Imagine being this much of a brain-damaged nigger.

>>15923188

It's the only place where these animal fucking fags can go cause no one wants them anywhere near them

>>15923243

>it's not lack of creativity

it is, and it is a tribute to a terrorist.

>>15923188

They do it without that in mind, all they're thinking of is being able to "express their true self" through their avatar, even if it's completely fictitious.

>>15921173

There is a market crash coming, it doesn't really matter if it's unrelated to video games because shit will hit the fan and people will stop buying video games.

>>15921689

Heil hitler.

>>15921585

>Pic 1

This, where is my wheelchair tranny jew negro simulator

>>15921956

>>15921948

doesn't have anything to do with resolution, psvr has the lowest res compared to rift/vive but way less notable SDE.

>>15923193

I heard you can make yourself into a flashing rainbow and give people epislpy sezuires. lol

>>15921757

Elite Dangerous' VR mode is supposedly fantastic as well.

>>15924590

>Socialism is the expansion of democracy from government to business,

How come every socialist country so far has been a totalitarian dictatorship and horrible for the people who lived under it?

inb4truecommunismhasneverbeentriedmeme

>>15924990

>how come every capitalist republic to the 1800s has been a totalitarian bloodbath that reverted to feudalism within a generation

Just like earlier transitions, most or all radical and violent efforts self-destructed. Instead, slow reformist transitions, such as constitutional monarchy in the former case, or social democracy in the latter, are generally the most fruitful.

>>15918752

If anything there are some games coming out now. I think people are getting a grip on how VR games can work now, like arcade shooters are prime candidates for it, tower defense can work, and puzzle games especially are a whole new game.

Melee based games also seem like they'd work out really well, since on a normal screen you can't really have much depth perception so you have to guess the range of your stabbing implements but with VR it's much easier to tell.

For actual games I've played and can confirm they're fun Pavlov is pretty fun, Gal Gun is a perfect example of an arcade shooter despite being basically porn. The Wizards I've not sunken my teeth into yet but it seems fun to fling magic around.

Moss is one I'm looking forward to picking up, looks more like a puzzle game than a platformer (A VR platformer is more like To The Top) but still it's a cool spin on it. Though I wish it was co op to have someone else play as the mouse.

But yeah, games exist now and they're getting better. Comparing new VR games to modern regular games is sort of unfair, like trying to compare NES games to DOOM. They're too different formats and people are going to need some time to figure out how the technology works. Still a long way to go, but saying theres no games anymore is a bit of bullshit.

>>15926459

>especially now that you can get a headset with controllers for like $300

200 bucks, actually. MS really opened things up with its VR solution since it's a lot cheaper AND doesn't require mounting anything extra for the tracking. So depending on people's thoughts on VR, they can either thank or blame Microsoft.

>>15927387

This isn't a video game

the only reason thus far to own a rift is for rec room vr and that my headset broke I dont think I want to play 300 dollars to play that game again

>>15924182

I actually didn't realize Occulus/Vive were pentile displays.

only thing apparently vr is good for is

first person view

using motion controls to use and touch things

how the fuck are you supposed to create anything good with this EXTREME LIMITATIONS? you literally cant create like 90% of the usual games

how are you supposed to make this fun besides stupid killing time things like beat saber?

are they going to actually have a go at it or are we stuck forever on 3-4 hour demos of doing few things for no good reason?

Where are my long as fuck big budget experiences with tons of good gameplay? Do they actually fucking think time wasters similar to mobile gaming are going to fly and sell this hardware? lol

>>15920283

Don't be a puritan anon. Only Jewish shills advocate not watching Jewish made pornography.

>>15930206

>how the fuck are you supposed to create anything good with this EXTREME LIMITATIONS? you literally cant create like 90% of the usual games

Anything that you can do in a normal first-person game, you can do with VR. You just have to not pussy out of providing normal movement options. This teleporting bullshit is the only thing holding VR games back. Using a stick for movement in VR works fine, devs are just afraid to allow it because of motion sickness.

>>15932387

Agreed getting an LCD for gayman/movies/photos is a bad idea, but 4K LCDs are genuinely great for desktop/reading/lineart use with their sharpness and (if you carefully avoid PVM-dimmed models) zero flicker until someone makes desktop eInk monitors.

Any answer that isn't "too expensive and niche" is just bitterness.

The Wii was shit yet sold immensely simply because it was cheaper and had a wide audience (a real wide audience, not "appeals to the loudest voice" wide audience).

is it worth replacing a broken headset?

i'm just not seeing anything besides rec room vr and that is an expensive "free" game to play

>>15921379

it literally is just a vr headset. there is not "mixed reality" about it. its basically just a cheaper headset that uses steamVR.

>>15918915

How do I upload models to VR chat?

>>15935533

>AR/MR/XR

I just want WLAN VR so I could play in an IRL lasertag arena synchronized to a custom fitted FPS level filled with fake monsters/windows/etc.

It should be mature enough for that, at least.

>>15925075

If you give more rewards to people who do a better job than you immediately create a capitalistic hierarchy regardless of any attempts to abolish them.

A small number of people can do a job much, much better than anyone else. Hell, if you believe in Price's Law then those people are responsible for half the work that gets done at all.

>>15920380

I get motion sick easily, but the only game I've played to date that made me sick in VR was subnautica, and that was only the first couple times I played it.

>>15924182

SDE is caused by resolution, but can be mitigated/removed through optics.

I've got a samsung odyssey+ and there's no SDE noticable unless I strain to look for it by focusing on the screen itself instead of the image.

>>15935663

china's probably already on it, they're going big with vr arcades.

if you know someone with a psvr + aim controller, give it a spin, imo works better than running with whatever wand/knuckle controller they came up with while being stationary

>>15935815

higher resolution means more pixels (=bigger screen), not necessarily smaller/denser ones - that's down to the display used and it's PPI.

you could have a "low res" high PPI screen, it would have shit FOV and be small but less SDE

>>15935533

Some time ago it was Microsoft themselves trying to sell mixed reality, now they changed trains making VR headsets and still calling it the same thing.

>>15918752

>>15919136

and there you have it,if it was cheaper and had proper games i would be playing mech sims all day

>>15935880

>not necessarily… denser

You're technically correct there. Generally though, everyone is mounting the screens about the same distance away from your eye, which means the density or pixels per steradian correlates strongly with resolution.

>>15935753

But those people (scientists, engineers, artists, talented craftsmen, even analysts and managers) aren't capitalists. Capitalists are the tiny number of billionaire rentiers who "own" the "their" firms, siphoning out rent, happy to run entire industries into the ground for personal gain.

A market system that had had checks on management decisions within the firm, rather than an unquestionable stream of orders from the out-of-touch parasites in the board of directors, would be much less vulnerable to plundering by opportunistic vultures.

>>15922445

Yea that looks sad. Buncha kids and the worst personality types and attention whoring. At least you tried and actually did the roles nice in the various generic settings.

Was there another VR thread that was deleted?

>>15926459

Right after good android games.

>>15945236

the vrchat one? dunno what happened

vr is a bad meme. carmack needs to sober up, no one wants this crap.

>>15918751

I'd probably buy a windows mr headset, if they ever go below 150 bucks.

Some go for 200 now and allegedly even less on some deals.

It's expensive, does nothing worthwhile, has many drawbacks, and encourages casual shit with no depth.

>>15948146

AC is the CoD:MW of flightsims

>>15935296

IIRC you have to import them into the SDK and rerig them in that specifically.

>>15948366

Autism?

>>15948146

>he doesn't know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDa2jkaCPGE

>>15948366

>>15948381

This is why I don't want VR

>>15948710

What's wrong, afraid of FUN or something?

>>15948846

Being around that autism isn't fun

>>15956643

Where do you think we are

it's a fad and a kike invention to pacify and control the goyim

HoneySelectVR and a fleshlight is a great combo

>>15956667

>force feedback is a kike invention to pacify and control the goyim

>HDTV is a kike invention to pacify and control the goyim

>3D acceleration is a kike invention to pacify and control the goyim

>publicly accessible Internet is a kike invention to pacify and control the goyim

>computer video output is a kike invention to pacify and control the goyim

>the PC is a kike invention to pacify and control the goyim

>computer gaming is a kike invention to pacify and control the goyim

>stereo sound is a kike invention to pacify and control the goyim

>color TV is a kike invention to pacify and control the goyim

>>15956658

>we

>>15919094

why dont people vomit when they dream?

>>15956946

Cut him some slack, he probably believes politicians are importing thousands of people because they hate the arbitrary combination of genes and not the infinitely more terrifying concept that unelectable authoritarian politicians would be more than content to physically stuff a nation with votes regardless of how much damage it would do to the populace as long as it means being in political power

>>15918751

It claimed to be more immersive than traditional games.

In the end, it's even less immersive.

>>15919160

Flat sprites in a 3d game, Not seen that in a while i like it.

It's never going to catch on until walled gardens die and you can use it on the couch with a normal controller without motion shit.

>>15932998

>VR loli relationship advice

Well I'm sold.