/v/ - MERRY CHRISTMAS

>gee whiz

gee wilickers, this goshdarn dagnab game dont look 2 purdy, i reckon

>>15912010

I reckon pardners like you aint the type to be meandering around this type of place. Why don't you mosey on down to some other kind of thread and let the westfolk congregate in peace?

I think everyone agrees it only starts getting good with Episode 2

>>15912015

Well, f'I din't know'ny better I'd say you's the one meanderin'.

>>15911999

>waah i dont like it

Maybe you just scrutinize new things indiscriminately.

>>15912567

When it comes to video games you should scrutinize everything indiscriminately.

fuck off commie shit, your game sucks.

Wasn't this the game where one of the devs was a tranny or am i retarded ?

>>15914739

The multiplayer dev (level designer) is a furfag tranny, but you're better off investing in older shooters like Quake

>>15912123

>Fairly significantly.

So far it's just a little. The first stage was a nice change of pace but after that it just goes back to more of the same. My problem is each stage feels incomplete so far. Every location a series of rooms and disconnected ideas that do not build on any game play concepts or unfold enticingly like areas in Doom or Quake or Duke3D would, where a locked door would often have what is hidden behind it teased on the map or with an enticing preview through a window of some sort. The game also seems to like to shove dark areas where you rely on the flashlight far too much. It's just not a fun way to play a game having only 15% of your screen show you any information. I get the limitations of 3D games not quite allowing easily done over-head maps but dusk far too infrequently overlaps rooms to not have this with how often it shoves you into pitch black rooms.

>>15914852

I'm perfectly fine with aesthetics that evoke a type of style or era, minimalist or otherwise, but Dusk is definitely unappealing.

>>15914845

Quake was pretty visually consistent with its industrial/gothic theme and the map packs only add to that, in many ways they improve upon and complete what the original devs did. DUSK has some neat aesthetics but they kind of feel all over the place. Is it lovecraft redneck rampage? generic military bases? weird fleshy hellscapes?

>>15914882

seems like a mix of mid-western small town/farm land/industry with a cult twist so far. Problem is none of the locations really stick.

>>15914802

>>15914845

older games had a consistent theme or art style, powerslave looks nicer than dusk

dusk is meant to take place in a rural area but it looks nothing like one. The theme looks unfocused and it ends up looking bad as a result.

>>15914852

>made with care squeezing everything out of the processing power of older PCs and still trying to look as good as possible

Quake was a fucking development hell with inconsistent theming all over the place and it was rushed as shit. You're misremembering.

>>15914816

>and not some fucking mod with assets made years later that were not part of the original game's design.

I'm talking about how the scene has grown, talking to a much higher concept than what you're addressing.

>You do this everytime.

What?

>>15914887

>dusk is meant to take place in a rural area but it looks nothing like one.

It comes off as an imitation. Sort of like how Duke 3D's movie theater first level is an imitation but has all these little elements that may get reused later but plenty that are unique for it, such as the large movie screen, darkening theater, the projector, the snack bar, bathroom, it all has a nice feel that harkens to elements that evoke the feeling of being in a theater while not being designed like one.

>>15914895

>I'm talking about

You're talking about how mods make the original game look better and using that as an argument that the base game looks better than it actually did.

No shit a game looks better when modded. Doesn't mean the game came out looking like that.

>>15914904

>You're talking about how mods make the original game look better

Literally not what I'm talking about.

>>15914845

>Especially when you look at more recent creations in Quake and Doom.

You aren't very bright.

>>15914911

>Literally not what I'm talking about.

While providing examples that do not reflect the actual look of the game you're talking about, as if it were valid. I'm just telling you not to fall into this fallacy because I've seen it before, far too often. You're the one who's not bright.

And please, Quake looked like dogshit. It was brown & grey galore from start to end, if it didn't start the trend, that is. Doom looked a hell of a lot better.

>>15914920

>While providing examples that do not reflect the actual look of the game you're talking about

They're examples of how newer creations in Quake have grown because I'm talking about a higher concept than just art style, but also how important it is to engage with what the community is doing, grow with them, and then push the things they're doing in more mainstream, more accessible releases.

You're really not bright. Quit jumping down peoples throats because you don't understand what they're talking about and think they're trying to get you. It's pathetic.

>>15914944

>which it is not.

I'm comparing the mod, what people are doing with retro styled visuals for classic shooters, to what is being sold by people who are attempting to harken back to classic aesthetics. You're really close to figuring it out.

>>15914952

>I'm comparing the mod

To a game that has no major modded visuals of its own yet and calling it shit because of it. Do I have to explain to you why your thought process is absolutely retarded or can you figure it out on your own from here?

>>15914959

>and calling it shit because of it.

Calling it disappointing, poorly thought out, under explored, lacking conceptually. You're fixated on a mod used as an example to talk about a concept you didn't understand. Keep posting, please.

>>15914962

>You're fixated on a mod used as an example to talk about

A game that does not look at all like the "concept" you're parading so much, which was introduced by mods, i.e. something that was not made by id themselves. You can play stupid all day.

>>15912039

Episode 1 is largely boring and is carried by the novelty of playing it for the first time, barebones level design and few monsters which are pushovers at best.

Episode 2 is where things start getting decent, still somewhat slow and easy and the level design leaves things to be desired.

The real quality spike comes in Episode 3, it's almost a completely different game because it's so good compared to the other 2 in terms of level design, atmosphere and challenging fights.

I hope the first two episodes get a revamp at some point because they're lacking in comparison to the third, which is honestly great.

>>15911999

I don't like Dusk because there's no reason to play it: Quake already exists.