5ad093 No.15869198
Looking for a new monitor. Is 144hz a big quality difference or just a meme?
1c6b55 No.15869202
fb5b0c No.15869203
aefefc No.15869214
>>15869198
If you can sustain 144+ fps in the game, yes its worthwhile.
cb4367 No.15869239
It's slightly better than 50% reduction in motion blur. If you use one with blur reduction it can be 90% or more, equal to CRTs. Alternatively, G-Sync/Freesync (same thing, despite what fanboys will say) can completely remove tearing without the judder or felt input lag of vsync.
If you are playing fast action games, particularly FPS titles, it's a real QoL upgrade. There is a reason VR headsets use high-refresh, low-persistency (read: blur-reducing) displays.
52efc7 No.15869240
>>15869198
Way smoother than a 60hz, even below 144 fps, however do not get the g-sync or free sync, its a waste of money.
187d2a No.15869242
>>15869198
144Hz means your monitor refreshes 144 times every second. This is a quality difference if you have a high end autism machine that regularly plays games at >60 FPS. Do your own maths here.
d89d3f No.15869255
>>15869198
>quality difference
The difference is immediately visible compared to 60hz, but whether it's worthwhile or "quality" is debatable.
f81b0b No.15869261
>>15869198
They are pretty good, worse color space than a 2006 TN panel though
6d6289 No.15869270
From 60 to 144hz? Yes
120 to 144? No
Also 144hz isn't super useful for a lot of things because of ticrates, don't let the scpiel fool you
7551f4 No.15869287
>>15869198
>quality difference or just a meme?
Not worth because only shit panels unless you get an EIZO which will still look like shit because IPS
11b601 No.15869291
It's only necessary if you play a lot of online shooters- that's where the difference is really clear. If you don't, it might be better to spend the money on something else.
0bf5c1 No.15869303
0f8a3b No.15869330
3517b6 No.15869355
>>15869198
Get one with good color. I bought a cheap one and it's washed out trash that can't even approximate a full range of color. There's a point where it all looks the same where there should be a gradient. Nobody should have to look at hentai on this piece of shit. I think the good ones are rated 100% gamut or something like that.
1b9d3a No.15869357
9e73be No.15869364
There is big difference. After using 144hz for a while 60hz will look like shit even while not gaming.
d89034 No.15869379
>>15869358
192kHz and beyond is a meme, but good audio hardware is NOT a meme.
99a2b0 No.15869392
Once you start playing games at 120-144 frames per second, you'll never be able to go back. This is a bad thing; you'll never be able to play consoles again, nor will you ever be able to play an FPS locked game again without straining your eyes. 60 FPS really hurts my eyes now, I regret ever upgrading to a 120 hz monitor.
4b20f2 No.15869401
ffd1c6 No.15869412
>>15869392
like how 30fps gives me a major headache. Now that I play mostly 60fps on pc
187d2a No.15869423
>>15869379
Howdy partner, want to turn this into a general peripheral thread?
1a6c00 No.15869758
>>15869379
howdy thread? Howdy thread.
0d44fc No.15869796
>>15869426
Is she gonna fuck the dog?
864c13 No.15869815
>>15869796
I hope not, I'd have a lot of pictures of her to delete
0a17bf No.15869823
Night and day. Anyone who says otherwise is a retarded blind faggot.
189216 No.15869826
>>15869240
>waste of money
>g-sync
Correct
>waste of money
>freesync
It's cheap and works better than g-sync, why would it be a waste of time?
0a17bf No.15869829
>>15869823
And not just for shooters like a lot of the poorfags in this thread are saying. I would have a 144hz monitor if all I did was write stuff in Microsoft word all day.
0d44fc No.15869830
>>15869815
>Not cherishing her more for having good taste in dick
eb765d No.15869835
>>15869202
This, though note you aren't going to crack 85Hz at HD resolutions on any but the very fastest tubes.
>>15869239
>There is a reason VR headsets use high-refresh, low-persistency (read: blur-reducing) displays.
VR uses OLED, which completely eliminate the smearing all LCDs have.
364b68 No.15869836
>>15869198
big meme, only noticeable if you go down to 60hz and let's say you play competitive videogames online outside of specific arena shooters, it's fucking wrothless the game are running at a lower tickrate and does not fucking matter, 120hz+ only useful for rhythm games and specific autistic games.
1a6c00 No.15869840
>>15869815
>he doesn't like seeing girls get dicked by dogs
cb4367 No.15870087
>>15869835
>VR uses OLED, which completely eliminate the smearing all LCDs have.
false. OLEDs are exactly as vulnerable to sample-and-hold motion blur as an LCD
https://www.blurbusters.com/faq/oled-motion-blur/
580d67 No.15870126
If you are used to 144hz, 60 looks choppy. I just upgraded about a month ago to 2k and the 144hz. It makes everything really smooth and nice, but the rest of your PC has to be able to run the games at high frame rate. There monitor also has gsync, but I'm not sure how just that does so far. I need to test with/without. 144hz isn't going to make you better at games or anything though, if you are hoping for that.
b31a04 No.15870215
>>15870126
>144hz isn't going to make you better at games or anything though
Who the fuck thinks that? Higher res doesn't make one better either. Because spotting enemies about their movement. It doesn't matter whether they are 1px or 2x2px. Especially because of DPI.
Only way to git gut is git gut.
I bought a 144hz IPS 1440p monitor from acer and I don't regret it.
cb4367 No.15870241
>>15870215
>Higher res doesn't make on better either
in general I definitely agree that the only way to git gud is to git gud, I do think that higher resolution (whether spatial - x*y screen resolution- or temporal - refresh rate) can give you a small competitive advantage. It could be the tipping point in a match where you are already closely matched with your opponent
364b68 No.15870254
>>15870215
>>15870241
>spotting enemies
>not predicting enemies
negative iq
678d9f No.15870260
>>15870254
>not predicting enemies' predictions
euclidean iq
187d2a No.15870262
>>15870254
>predicting enemies
>not calculating where they will be based on random chance before the match starts
imaginary iq
de34c1 No.15870278
120Hz is like going from 30 to 60 all over again. Absolutely worth it if your PC is powerful enough. I can't tell the difference between 120 and 144, and I've never tried anything higher.
6088d6 No.15870512
>>15870271
This
>>15870278
If the game you play is fast enough you'll tell the difference.
MAKE FUN OF ME NOW, but I play Overwatch at a pretty high level and there's obviously a difference from 120hz and 144hz when you're playing something like Tracer.
That's the character similar to Scout in TF2 but can teleport so frequent instant 180's and tracking rather than scatter gun flicks
4f1fdb No.15870526
>>15869198
Here you go, OP:
Do you play high speed games? -> The more fps / hz the better.
Do you play static or low speed games? -> fps & hz don't matter.
bab33e No.15870533
>>15869291
>It's only necessary if you play a lot of online shooters- that's where the difference is really clear. If you don't, it might be better to spend the money on something else.
That's a myth. Server and client ticrate hasn't been tied to framerate since ever.
bab33e No.15870537
>>15870512
Overwatch runs at 45 tic you fucking sped
a7100b No.15870548
>>15869198
It makes a difference, definitely better for playing FPS, and don't mind it for other games and general use, everything is quite a bit smoother. Speccy reports AMD temps wrong for some reason.
84356d No.15870580
>>15869202
>Cancer Beam Tube
>sucking power like a mad cunt
>waste of space for minimal/meme quality gain
Garbage for anything thats not emulation of old gen, even then thats debatable.
inb4 muh latency
84356d No.15870585
>>15870548
>103 C
Nigger are you trying to boil water with your CPU?
a7100b No.15870589
>>15870585
Reading, my man. Temp is actually around 44C.
678d9f No.15870596
>>15870585
You save money by using that to boil water to power your steam generator. Aternatively use the steam to spin your cooler fans faster for better performance.
84356d No.15870620
>>15870589
>I'm retarded
Well shit.
71bdf3 No.15870784
The human eye cannot see above 24 fps.
4f1fdb No.15870796
640K is enough for anyone.
3203dc No.15870835
The human eye can't see anything above 1920x1080.
eb765d No.15871504
>>15870087
Blur and smearing aren't quite the same thing. My point is that low-persistence on an LCD isn't going to be as effective, since their sluggish pixel transition times produce ghosting/crosstalk/smearing, especially at very high refresh, and particularly for IPS.
>>15870580
>latency
And motion, and blacks, and grays, and colors, and viewing angles.
08018e No.15871505
>>15869198
144hz + Gsync is what you want. If you don't get one with gsync you're wasting your time because there's no way you can hold 144FPS without dropping frames in most games.
>>15869239
>It's slightly better than 50% reduction in motion blur
There is no reduction in motion blur. This is complete horse shit.
>equal to CRTs.
This is even bigger horse shit
>>15869826
>and works better than g-sync
You must have missed all the tests that came out with all the empirical evidence saying freesync was crap compared to gsync.
d1ef62 No.15871512
>>15871305
Is that some Bob and George?
Fuck yeah.
9a42d4 No.15871513
>>15870992
Get a load of this retard.
IPS has better viewing angles and color reproduction than TN but slower response times.
OLED has superior black levels but suffers burn-in issues.
LED is an irrelevant term today, as all non-OLED panels are using LEDs to backlight now, previously it was used to differentiate from the other backlight method, CFLs I believe.
9a42d4 No.15871534
>>15871531
Nope didn't see the other posts, my bad.
5ad093 No.15872297
What about 240hz? does that blow 144hz out of the water?
c839cf No.15872324
>>15872297
No, because 144 = 12 x 12 = 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 3 x 3 which is great because 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 3 + 3 = 14
and 1 + 4 = 5 and 1 x 4 = 4 and 5 - 4 = 1 which is the minimal number of screens you need to play.
c839cf No.15872331
>>15871531
>immediately explaining the joke instead of doubling down
3517b6 No.15872351
>>15872324
Learn from me and never do this joke in real life. Feels fucking bad man.
51c8bc No.15872358
>>15872351
It's nobody's fault but yours that you don't look enough like Scott Steiner to pull it off.
c839cf No.15872366
3517b6 No.15872384
>>15872358
It's a bad joke. Scaring people into laugh wont change that.
>>15872366
My soul died. Everyone cringed and laughed at me until they got bored and forgot about it.
3517b6 No.15872413
>>15872366
tbh, I didn't even finish the joke. I turned around as I was doing it and their faces still haunt me to this day. Blank and cringe. Fuck.
4936d5 No.15872420
>>15869379
howdy pardner. get along little doggie
cff169 No.15872421
144hz gsync monitor is not a meme, came from a shitty old TN panel to one and can't go back, total gamechanger. Also IPS is worth investing in, the difference between 1ms and 4ms response time is negligible (3/1000th of a second) and with gsync the input latency is practically nonexistant. If you suffer a severe fps drop you will still feel it but no tearing and no vsync input latency. I feel like 240hz would suffer from diminishing returns but if you are a hardcore esports fag or something might be worth it. nvidia are a bunch of jews but its worth it.
cff169 No.15872435
>>15870533
>>15870537
You are autistic, packets are still distributed the same obviously but when you can see almost 3x as many fps as your opponents your reaction time will be faster, not that hard of a concept mong
c839cf No.15872437
>>15872384
>>15872413
My god, the mental image is terrifying. I feel for you.
853e44 No.15872504
>>15869198
Prioritizing resolutions is more important than refresh rates. Stick with a 1440p monitor at a 75hz refresh rate that supports freesync so you don't have to pay and extra $100 far a monitor that favors nivida's gsync.
bab33e No.15880233
>>15872435
Nigger you are referring to a margin of error that fighter jet pilots don't can't react to.
c871bf No.15880258
>>15880233
Well the good ones can
bab33e No.15880274
>>15880258
If they were a bad fighter jet pilot, they wouldn't be sitting there discussing it to you.
75b4dc No.15880400
>>15869198
Not a meme.
Just like the difference is immediately noticeable between 30Hz and 60Hz, there's a significant difference between 60Hz and 120Hz.
Now, if your hardware can't push a stable 120+FPS, there's no reason in using a 120Hz monitor. 144Hz doesn't provide a huge difference, it's really more about making sure your machine can push enough frames to use the hardware you're buying, and making sure the monitor you purchase doesn't have issues with ghosting or bad color reproduction.
Once you've got the right hardware put together though, gameplay feels more responsive in all games. Pretty much anything involving you controlling something on screen is going to feel better because the delay between providing input and seeing the change gets pretty damn small.
Finally, don't let the people saying "muh tickrates" mislead you. Unless the actual framerate of the game is tied to the tickrate of the server you're playing on (something like Arma 3) you'll still notice the difference because the main thing you get from higher refresh rate is more responsive controls and cleaner images in scenes with lots of movement.
f21716 No.15880478
>>15870512
lmao what a retarded faggot
eb765d No.15880519
>>15880233
Lag is cumulative. If you've already got dozens of milliseconds of lag from other sources (human nervous system, controller, network, game engine, LCD panel), the 10ms of lag you shave off going from 60FPS to >144FPS obviously makes a difference.
51c8bc No.15880536
>>15880519
It's not just lag either. The optic nerve doesn't work on a refresh rate basis, it's constantly sending whatever it sees to your visual cortex to be figured out. More frames per second = more information per second.
eb765d No.15880552
>>15880536
Oh, certainly latency is far from the only benefit of higher FPS: Less blur, less ghosting, smoother motion illusion, less flicker (due to CRT refresh or blank frame insertion), etc.
1e0171 No.15880933
Get 100-120hz ULMB.
High refreshrate is nothing if your monitor is 3-5ms G2G response time. At 144hz your pixels will be super blurry when you move your character camera anywhere. The whole environment is a blurry mesh, you can't track anything with your eyes.
If you have a 2-5ms gray transition time monitor, but you have ULMB, you eliminate 99% of motion blur. Congrats, now you have butter smooth motion that your eyes can actually track and see MOVING objects on screen.
Trust me, its the biggest jump ever. You won't leave ULMB when you see the difference. Its like coming back to CRT's.
I have this, I recommend it.
ASUS ROG PG279Q 27"
Important thing is its 27", 1440p, has 120hz ULMB, AND is an IPS panel, not a TN panel.
IPS>>>TN. Gamma shift on TN is awful and you can't see anything on the bottom or top of screen in dark scenes. IPS gives clarity to everything. The only drawback is IPS has 5ms gray to gray transition. Doesn't matter when you have ULMB, no motion blur.
1e0171 No.15880979
Also I will expand on my experience. If my game can net 100 fps 95% of the time, I will stick with 100hz ULMB. I rarely ever use GSYNC, since you can only use one at a time.
If your fps caps at ULMB refresh rate, there is ZERO stutter, and zero tearing. Yes, turn on VSYNC when using ULMB. Did someone say input lag? NO! Get MSi Afterburner, run Rivatuner latest version, and limit the framerate to .01hz less than the actual framerate that you get from a hz test on a website. Ask for more info.
As the game receive frames just before the refresh, the GPU will always update the next frame with the next refresh. There is no chance of having a pre-rendered frame, thus impossible for stuttering to happen when using ULMB VSYNC. Games feel so good.
0b9208 No.15881012
>>15869239
>It's slightly better than 50% reduction in motion blur
Try ULMB. The display's backlight strobes to reduce perceived motion blur. Makes motion look even more clean.
II have a 165Hz g-sync display. UILMB only works as high as 120Hz with g-sync disabled though.
4cca5a No.15881037
When will we get oled 120hz+ monitors with 1440p and a decent motion blur control?
Until then, i will not drop my 80hz, 1080p IPS for anything, even though it's sort of shitty for the eyes.
Answering OP's question, yeah, it's very noticeable for me. I can usually tell the difference between 60 fps capped games and 80hz ones, and 144 is even better although it does start to drop in improvement after 120hz
Another important quality to look for is the panel type and color fidelity. IPS are usually better than TN, and VAs with those other exotic panels are usually better than IPS. However, don't bother with IPS if it's e-ips, since those have shit colors with the annoying glare that is common to these panels.
c24c94 No.15881050
>>15880979
Gibs more info re: input lag. I have an Asus 1080p TN Gsync 144hz and I ended up dropping ULMB for Gsync because of a combination of input lag and brightness issues.
916a12 No.15881171
it's pretty worth it, especially for car/fast games obviously
87b968 No.15881208
>>15871505
>You must have missed all the tests that came out with all the empirical evidence saying freesync was crap compared to gsync.
You got sauce to back that up?
4a374c No.15881279
Depends on what type of games you play, for RTS / turn based games you won't see much difference but for games like racing / fps / simulators you will see a decent improvement.
I went for 144hz + Gsync and recommend some kind of sync technology so you aren't stuck with 60 fps Vsync or tearing.
102eee No.15881613
>>15869358
Every time I see this clip, I wish I could experience what this man feels.
bab33e No.15881625
>>15881613
Boy do I have great news for you!
It's Placebo! You could actually experience that kind of shit if you lied to yourself for around a month
102eee No.15881677
>>15881625
Eh. Anything can be called a delusion if you try hard enough.
bab33e No.15881684
>>15881677
Woah dude, solipsism is an excuse to be an ass, I'm just saying audiophile shit is well, shit.
6b16e1 No.15882324
>>15881830
thanks kinai
,
may I please save this?
e07041 No.15882634
>>15882627
>240p 60hz professional CRT Broadcast monitor forever ever.
d89d3f No.15883700
>>15882627
Just kill jews and patents and we'll have that within a year.
9496d0 No.15884379
>>15882324
its yours my friend :-)
1e0171 No.15884403
>>15881050
I'll get a post written for you soon.
da03ad No.15884504
>ASUS 144Hz 1440p IPS monitor with freesynch: 520 yurops
>ASOS 144Hz 1440p IPS monitor with gsynch: 744 yurops
Jesus fucking christ. At this point I think I'd rather just compromise and get a shitty TN panel.
da03ad No.15884506
1e0171 No.15884580
1e0171 No.15884599
Be sure to get the latest RTSS (Riva Tuner) software. It comes with the Msi Afterburner you download usually. On Guru3d website. Latest should let you set framerate cap to 3 digits right of the ones digit. Good luck