6df49f No.15857106
>EDF5 released today.
>Due to all the mass censorship getting everyone's attention, nobody even noticed this even came out.
>Even if anyone did, no one wants to support Sony after all the bullshit they've just pulled.
I guess we're waiting for the PC release then. Anyone here enjoyed the JP version when it first came out? I like the new changes from 4.1 like giving Ranger sprinting, bringing back vehicles to Rangers, giving multiple dashes and jumps to Fencers, air dodging for Wing Diver and making their weapons more diverse, and giving Air Raiders the ability to aim their air strikes.
e56c7e No.15857119
>see this thread on the catalog
>read the first line and instantly explode with excitement thinking it was the pc release
>it was not the pc release
NIGGER OP GO CLIMB A WALL OF GIANT INSECT DICKS
62962a No.15857121
>>15857106
What the fuck is wrong with her tits?
51b305 No.15857128
>>15857121
<i dont need to study lifedrawings ill just use my own style!
35a9f2 No.15857133
>>15857121
Literal balloons.
66e3d2 No.15857139
>>15857121
I'd argue that they're being pushed through the vest but it still looks weird.
286df0 No.15857140
7a1bd9 No.15857157
I originally imported it on PS4 last year, and it's the sole thing that prevents me yet to sell my PS4 after Sony's new policies.
>base missions get harder/crazier at some point the than the base missions in 4.1
>ended up playing all classes, especially Fencer, unlike on 4.1
>Air Raider was buffed to hell and back, at the small cost of no vehicle call right at the start of mission
>nice new vehicles, Balgam has a few additional melee combos and can stomp the ground repeatedly
>aliens and giant frogs are more intelligent and bigger threats than the giant robots from 4.1
6df49f No.15857168
>>15857121
>Implying those aren't Wing Diver power packs attacks to her flat chest.
e0c53f No.15857170
EDF! EDF! EDF!
Lancer is the best class
4c6c6b No.15857175
Question: Is the first game the weakest of the series?
7a1bd9 No.15857189
>>15857175
>Question: Is the first game the weakest of the series?
I have it on PS2 and it's very barebones obviously compared to later titles, on top of having some weird control inputs to move the camera around
It was originally a silly proof-of-concept that D3 Publisher didnt expect to be so popular
6df49f No.15857192
>>15857157
>Fighting the new giant pillbug enemies.
>Laughing my ass off as you hear everyone getting crushed by this silly new enemy.
>Realize later how terrifying and annoying they are compared to most enemies that crawl on the ground due to being able to crush you in succession and allow for ants to swarm you while you're on the ground.
The frogs and ayys are much more fun to fight than the Hectors. Being able to blow their limbs off actually makes getting close to them practical.
>>15857175
I don't see much of a reason to play the first game. Especially when the frame rate is beyond terrible. Even for modern EDF standards.
bf3dbf No.15857202
>>15857121
They're fake and gay. I'm more concerned with the arms and face. And the rest of the body.
62962a No.15857206
>>15857202
The longer I look the worse it gets. Her palms are the size of her eyes.
6df49f No.15857213
>>15857202
>>15857206
You're right. I should have used a different image for the OP. I started noticing things left and right as soon as I posted it.
62962a No.15857222
>>15857213
It doesn't matter. 99% of all drawings have fucked proportions, we just never notice. Kinda like smears in animation, the mind just kinda sees what it wants to see.
72fd6a No.15857245
>>15857213
use this next time around
Also 4.1 Wing Diver is best Wing Diver
7a1bd9 No.15857258
>>15857192
the DLCs also introduce armored frogs with upgraded guns (that hit way harder, especially the mortars that can instant-kill you at close distance even with 10k HP on Inferno) and a gigantic drone type A that shoot a multitude of plasma balls all around the map. I was expecting the return of Red Erginus or the equivalent of the Giant Blue Dragon from 4.1 but I was sadly disappointed.
Also the DLCs only contain 15 missions each, while EDF4.1 DLCs had about 21-23 missions each. There was a complete lack of additional VA too except for one single mission.
7a1bd9 No.15857270
Also just forgot to add, but holy shit the english voice acting in EDF5 suck ass. Far worse than the jap VA for EDF5 or the english VA from 4.1
6df49f No.15857307
>>15857258
I felt the giant dragons in 4.1 were pretty bullshit at times. There was almost nothing Rangers could do to not be roasted at times due to the massive AOE damage from the fire breath.
>>15857270
Xseed did a good job with 4.1's dub. I wonder why they didn't use them this time.
7a1bd9 No.15857444
>>15857307
Because EDF5 wasnt localized by XSeeD, but by D3 Publisher itself.
>There was almost nothing Rangers could do to not be roasted at times due to the massive AOE damage from the fire breath.
I dont think it would have been much an issue this time in EDF5 this time as the Ranger can sprint
09b644 No.15857646
>>15857258
>that circle for collecting boxes
This one might be worth playing actually.
c0314d No.15857825
MY EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY OF THE TRAMPLING AT THE ZOO
Torrent when?
1b6693 No.15857869
>Have an English twitter now
>Still no buzz
Then again 5 is pretty much a reskin and released after 2 fucking years, I just want a PC port and I'll buy it day one just like how I did with 4.1.
Also a reminder that the Wing Diver SHMUP is on PC if you want to give that a try.
1b6693 No.15857890
>>15857258
>Shotgun pellets actually leave marks on buildings now
Noice
6cb80f No.15858827
You're good!
I'd like to be happy about English-only fags finally being able to play the game, but it seems nobody will touch this shit until it gets a PC release. Guess I'll have to wait another few years before I can talk about it here, if it happens at all.
62962a No.15858836
>>15858827
I feel like most people who wanted it badly enough already bought the jap version for console. So everyone else is holding out for pc.
e646cc No.15860471
Been playin' all of yesterday, what a great game!
Any rooms up?
4dcbae No.15861587
Why the fuck is blood purple
0e1a92 No.15861637
>>15861587
Because muh bugs/ayys, and also japs tend to be hard on gore for ratings.
9d3c69 No.15861674
>>15861587
It's a little known fact that aliens are made of Purple Drank.
72fd6a No.15861676
>>15861637
Bullshit,the reason is there in the previous games too and it's as simple as to how Mark names his vols
color-codingdifferent enemies,different blood color so you know what you're hitting in the midst of it all and prioritise targets
not that it really matters on higher difficulties
a47147 No.15861760
>>15857189
>>15857175
The first is a fucking budget title that Sandlot made, before that they made two unlicensed Tetsujin games.
1b6693 No.15861815
>>15861709
This is some Imperial Japan/USSR tier shit
9ccabc No.15861977
I didn't go crazy for 4.1. One mission in particular was total bullshit.
c50651 No.15862013
>>15857175
Yes, it was literally a budget game put on a disk full of tiny budget games
13af26 No.15862244
Few questions.
I pretty much exclusively played Wing Diver in 4.1, I always felt gimped playing other classes because I loved that aerial mobility too much. I realise that is completely personal taste because my co-op buddy plays Ranger and won't touch anything else, even though I find Ranger a bit basic. Has the Wing Diver gameplay expanded? Do I have new shiny things to play with? Really digging her new booty-focused outfit also.
443c60 No.15862269
>>15862244
I feel the same way but for fencer instead of wing diver, once you learn how to infinite dash you'll do that always. Fencer has the best AOE weapons bar none, and some of the longest ranged weapons aside from vehicles and rockets.
a52a6b No.15862272
>>15857222
>have fucked proportions
>we just never notice
You don't notice BECAUSE the proportions aren't fucked even if it's not anatomically correct.
2cfeb6 No.15862277
>>15862244
Wing diver isn't the fastest class in 4.1, Fencer is. Lrn2dashcancel for maximum speed
combine with twin spear for LUDICROUS SPEED
Also air raider mobility seems shit at low levels but in harder difficulties the vehicle drops you receive are drastically faster. Helicopters and GRAPE APC are more commonly used in hardest / inferno than the tanks or vegalta mechs, though railgun tanks are also fairly common other classes are better snipers than air raiders.
636e4c No.15862292
>>15857175
Only because they kept getting better
62a5d9 No.15862315
>>15862272
>the proportions aren't fucked even if it's not anatomically correct.
U wot
06c496 No.15862336
>>15862315
Proportions and anatomy are two different things.
Fantasy dwarves sure aren't anatomically correct to how a human body really looks like, but they can be drawn anatomically correct (i.e. head-body proportion, tip of fingers fall around the middle of the thighs, etc.)
c555b9 No.15862421
>>15862244
It appears every class has such a high mobility boost that wing diver AND fencer can spend the entire game dashing through the sky
c13cfd No.15862650
>>15861709
What the fuck did he just do?
8545e3 No.15862739
>>15862650
Looks like they just covered one guy with explosives and then shot him, which caused him to fly backwards at great speed and explode in the midst of the enemy.
6df49f No.15862809
>>15862244
WD has had the most changes out of any class and it's mainly due to her weapons. The basic changes have to do with the fact that she can dodge in the air. This plays in part with the game now giving you passive equipment slots. There's a type of core she can use that makes it so dodging forward makes you move much faster than usual. There's also the "grounded" Wing Diver core that removes your ability to properly fly. In trade, you get an insane amount of fuel and your charging speed for weapons that need charging to fire is usually tripled. Meaning you become a walking nuke. Those auto aim homing weapons now allow you to just hold a whole swarm still because you can fire so much shit at once.
Many weapons now require you to charge them up first before you fire them. They will keep firing until drained or you dodge. Some weapons, like the laser streams, actually do less and less damage the lower the ammo gets. However the damage at max is higher than it was in 4.1. So you have to constantly reload it to use it or you can keep firing to stun lock enemies while you recharge fuel due to the weapon's massive capacity.
1bffd8 No.15862865
>>15857106
>nobody even noticed this even came out.
I knew it was coming out, but i'm not buying a PS4 to get it. Maybe a switch, but not a PS4.
849d18 No.15862868
>>15857106
PEEECEEEE WHEEEEEEEEEN
097ec7 No.15862905
I'll get it soonish but I really didnt like how dlc was handled in 4.1 (way too fucking expensive)
58380e No.15862906
Just waiting on that sweet PC release.
d552ce No.15862930
do we know how well the PC version of 4 sold?
1b6693 No.15862947
bf3554 No.15862962
>>15857106
>EDF5 released today.
I'm taking off my pants.
>I guess we're waiting for the PC
Even if soyny wasn't being retarded I'd still be waiting on it.
6cb80f No.15863349
Reminder that every class is best class, but Air Raider is bestest class.
468b50 No.15863359
>>15857106
>I guess we're waiting for the PC release then
b79437 No.15863362
>>15863349
>having to call in nukes and vehicles
>not being the nuke and vehicle
Fencer is raughing.
6cb80f No.15863571
>>15863362
>being a tool
At least yer cute.
66d2f5 No.15863633
>>15862809
Pressing reload also ends the weapon discharge.
I also realized after playing the english version that you can press R3 to manually reload shields now.
11dffb No.15863731
I don't even know why they make games that aren't EDF. Or RAD
c555b9 No.15864228
>>15862809
Speaking of overpowered high firepower weapons, the laser weapon ranger gets can be reloaded now.
c555b9 No.15864233
>>15862947
Only 200k? They'll never even try to release a game on PC again. :^)
2cfeb6 No.15865476
>>15862244
TLDR? EDF physics.
Long version is that edf physics are completely retarded. In every previous game the bike was fucking undrivable because of the sidecar making it handle like garbage, and enemies have less weight than your character despite being massively bigger, hence shooting ants and spiders and sending them flying, or exploding them into low earth orbit / the sun. They do this by giving living players massive weight. Vehicles, bugs and dead bodies lose their weight, which results in things like hectors throwing AR player's vehicles across the map because fuck you, or when you die in an ant's jaws and it releases you, instead of flying 50 feet like you normally would, you get launched into the stratosphere at the speed of light. When you're living getting shot by another player doesn't do much, but once you've died they can launch your body quite far, making some neat tricks possible like corpse recovery via grenade launcher if you've gotten yourself killed somewhere hard to reach.
From all the clips I've seen of 5 so far they've tightened up some of the randomness of the physics but kept the general ridiculous fuck you weight the same or made it even more ludicrous, making it much more exploitable than ever before. An uncommon air raider inferno strategy for caves in 4.1 involved bikes and c4, but the way it works now looks so much easier to fuck about with I can't wait until it's on PC.
1b6693 No.15865505
>>15864233
It sold better than the PS4 Western release actually
604f27 No.15865728
>that moment you finally realize you're supposed to take things down methodically and not heavily focus the objectives over everything
Felt kinda dumb spending hours trying to do 87 by just bumrushing the 4 heavy transports and just barely failing everytime at-least I learned that spritefall is an excellent way to snipe heavy transports only to realize you can just go to the corner of the map and take them down one by one while dealing with the escort inbetween from afar super easily
6cb80f No.15866245
>>15865476
>the bike was fucking undrivable
Use a controller and be gentle with increasing speed and making turns. They become extremely effective transportation vehicles once you take some time to learn how to control them. Farming Golden Darkness without em would have been true hell. It's similar in 5, though a little easier to control, but now you get to risk falling over or crashing and getting flung a map away from your bike.
6dcfca No.15866302
I NEED THE PC RELEASE NOW
bbc224 No.15866687
I'm astounded to see that there are no cases of censorship being talked about with EDF 5 considering the sony gestapo and XSeed losing key anti censorship voices.
Maybe That's why the publisher opted to do the translation in house.
aa28e0 No.15866823
>Ranger can now sprint and call down vehicles
>Air rider gets new toys and uses more of them at once, can finally direct where airstrikes go, making them much better
>Wing Diver can airdodge, and with certain core/weapon combinations you will never even touch the ground
>Fencer is even fucking faster, can do multiple dashes consecutively in midair, crazy mobility, still the god of war
Can't fucking wait for 5.
133ccf No.15866873
I've never played this before but it looks fun as fuck, where do I start?
83cf51 No.15866892
1f52eb No.15867061
>>15862905
The DLC gave you tons of video games for your dollars. It's really not comparable to other games.
6cb80f No.15867765
>>15866873
1, 2 or IFPS. if you want the very best right her right now, then 5. 4/4.1 is required playing, but doesn't make for a very good starting point. IA and DynaMarisa are also suggested after you've gotten comfortable with EDF. I'd suggest Zangeki no Reginleiv too, but I still haven't got around to playing it yet so can't comment on it.
2cfeb6 No.15867773
>>15866245
The grape is far superior to the bike in high level missions, it's nearly as fast, much more controllable and has a sick penetrating gun. The bike's best use is hurling down tunnels covered in c70 while spamming EDF! and "watch out for the airstrikes".
5fd4c8 No.15868233
fb261a No.15868673
Have any of you anons played this? how does it compare to EDF4.1?
c555b9 No.15868702
7a1bd9 No.15868733
>>15868673
It's a big upgrade over 4.1 on a lot of points
My sole real complaint is that the DLC missions (priced 1000yen each) are fewer and overall easier to complete even on Inferno compared to 4.1 where they still wreck my shit mostly due of the new armor grinding system (the armor loot is shared to all classes) and the DLC weapons.
fb261a No.15868758
>>15868733
>the armor loot is shared to all classes
this is awesome. i hated how i would play with my air raider 90% of the time, but when i wanted to switch it up, i really couldnt even if i had the weapons because i was too weak.
i never buy dlc missions, but i do have the extreme mission pack, which the devs gave me a free code for reporting an early bug in the game. i never got far in it because by the time i started playing it, i had almost 100%'d the game on inferno and was getting bored with it. and i couldnt ever find anyoen online to play it with me.
are all of the dancing/singing decoys dlc? or do they atleast give you a few for free…
6cb80f No.15868785
>>15868673
Its the same, but better, just like every EDF sequel.
https://www65.atwiki.jp/edf5/
Here is everything you wanted to know about 5 and then some. Reminder that Google Translate is your friend.
fb261a No.15868789
>>15868785
ive played every EDF since 2007 so i dont need to know much more. i was just curious if this one was the exception. i just just checking its reception.
i played insect armageddon… that was trash, but a different dev.
fb261a No.15868792
>>15868789
2025… i dont know why i typed 2007.
7a1bd9 No.15868797
>>15868758
The Dream Club Zero decoys were pre-order DLCs for japs who bought the game from the D3 Publisher store. Dunno about the english localization, but you certainly have to pay for those.
I'd say the DLC mission packs for EDF5 dont really introduce you much into situations where the odds are completely against you (like Crimson Lotus and a couple of others in 4.1) while I was far more impressed by the EDF5 base missions, which I consider a big step up over 4.1
6cb80f No.15868870
>>15868789
I wouldn't really say its trash. Unfinished and lacking the same spirit, but it still has its charms and is worth a play to any EDF fans. Without it, we wouldn't have Air Raiders, Fencers, or Iron Rain.
The decoys were pre-order only. You are out of luck if you wanted em on console. They aren't as good as they were in 4.1 as their range is only a few feet away and enemies now have line of sight and pathfinding. There are still a few tricks you can pull off with them, like placing them inside buildings or on allies.
fb261a No.15868942
>>15868797
how many levels in the game? is it ~100 like 4.1?
theres enough meat in the main game without DLC to keep me playing endlessly.
no free dancing decoys? that sucks…
>>15868870
i only cared about the dancing/singing/lewd stripping decoys. functionally i just used them to lure bees into air strikes on a tunnel in inferno missions.
i absolutely hated IA. it was like dynasty warriors 9. "hey, what do you like about GAME? oh you like X and hate Y? howabout we focus on Y in the next title and remove X!"
7a1bd9 No.15869088
>>15868942
110 base levels (+2 online-only missions)
Hardest/Inferno, once unlocked by completing the game (preferably on Hard), makes some levels add new waves of enemies instead of just changing some into their colored-elite counterparts
fb261a No.15869136
>>15869088
can you start this game on hard? in 4.1 it wasnt feasable to start a game on hard because the basic weapons dont deal enough damage and the ants can easily 1hko you.
6cb80f No.15869188
>>15869136
>in 4.1 it wasnt feasable to start a game on hard
Acquire proficiency.
Hard is not only easy to start with, but highly recommended since it gives you the gear you need and unlocks completion for lower difficulties. You are just wasting time on normal.
fb261a No.15869222
>>15869188
start the game as a ranger on hard, with fucking 100hp and a machine gun that take 3 full reloads to kill 1 ant… but die of a single butt projectile.
its nearly impossible.
doable after you play a bit on normal to get some weapons, but the starting weapons make hard impossible/tedious.
6cb80f No.15869244
>>15869222
You've never done an inferno-only run, have you? Fresh save and only doing inferno. Some people even do it online so everything has 4x health.
fb261a No.15869279
>>15869244
that sounds like a nightmare.
with 10k health i sometimes get killed in a single ant-ass-blast.
i dont see it as being fun because of the TTK on each ant. seriously. the HP on inferno of those ans will make it so you'd have to shoot each ant for 3 minutes.
c555b9 No.15871168
>>15869279
>Not using the Slug EA as a ranger for ants
>Not becoming practiced enough to understand ant AI enough to kite even a full map of them succesfuly with dodge rolls
It's funny as shit seeing people with hacked ranger armor die instantly to shit as opposed to people who earned it but no longer need it.
13af26 No.15871536
>>15862809
I gave in and bought the game because I am weak.
Really enjoying the changes to the classes, even the ones I don't play a lot of. Small things that are neat. Like I noticed Air Raider's deployable turrets could reload even while switching to other weapons, which he couldn't do in 4.1.
Wing Diver will once again be a blast though, I can tell. The new air dashing is amazing and gives me a mobility tool I never had before. And the way weapons interact with my energy bar is pretty different in very fundamental ways, but good ways I'm feeling.
What's the deal with this new weapon upgrade system? It seems to be upgrading my weapons using dupes, how does it work exactly? Is there a cap? It's quite a clever idea to make use of dupes I think just so that you aren't disappointed when you spend 10 minutes in a mission harvesting pickups just to be faced with a whole list of shit you already have.
6cb80f No.15871668
>>15871536
weapon drops come with randomized stat levels, which your weapon takes the better of the stats as its own. stats are capped when the star next to em becomes white, and the weapon gets a star when all stats are capped. I don't remember what the limits are exactly, but I think it is usually 5,8, or 12.
6cb80f No.15874144
"The results are great! I will send the data out to the world." "This just in. Red drones are assholes. More at 11!"
7a1bd9 No.15874234
>>15874144
EDF5's lore a bit more fleshed out than just "The aliens came and destroyed shit" compared to previous titles the """one global government""" pissed off the aliens and the giant pepes are cloned soldiers from a race annihilated by the giant ayys
459fb2 No.15874326
anyone have any idea if and when the PC release will happen? have 4.1 sold well on PC?
af94b4 No.15874345
>>15874234
How did it piss them off?
2e2acc No.15875897
Does anyone have any tips for mission 96 "Demon Army" on hard in 4.1?
A friend of mine and I have been playing through the game and everything so far is winnable but we are just getting absolutely assblasted by this mission over and over again. We have a wing diver and an air raider. Help please.
374a12 No.15875934
>>15875897
Generally speaking Fencer javelin dash cancelling beats almost anything that isn't a close quarters combat situation, or other instant damage enemies in great numbers (earth eaters, focus laser flyers, etc.). Just have 1 mobility setup and the other for general purpose level completion.
6df49f No.15876094
>>15871536
If only you played it when it first released. You can stay in the air forever if you constantly shot downward with weapons that give you high knockback.
That's another detail too. Some weapons are made to give you extra speed by shooting while flying backwards.
>>15874326
No clue. We'll just have to wait and see.
>>15875897
This map needs to be taken down slowly. The main thing to know is that the hives don't attack you constantly. Once you kill the wave they send out, they fuck off. You want to have a weapon that can reliably take down flying units and deal with spiders and Hectors. Try to pull a few groups of enemies so you don't become too overwhelmed. Once all the enemies on the map are gone, then you can deal with the hives one by one.
If the Air-Raider has a good anti-air Vegalta and the WD has a good laser chainsaw, you shouldn't have much trouble with the mission. Honestly don't remember this map being that tough. The one before it kicked my ass pretty hard though.
fb28f9 No.15876121
>>15875897
I could be misremembering a few things but
>sticking to the starting area allows you to kill every single drone
>if you attack any hive they send a squad after you, not a continual spam
>killing any of the hive makes the other two spawn elites
>central hive is bees other two are spiders
>you can setup up a nice firebase in a corner where all 3 hive are lined up so every threat is coming from a single direction
13af26 No.15877254
Never regretted purchasing any game in the EDF series and I still haven't. Having endless fun with 5. I like some of the new Wing Diver weapons I've seen so far, but I'm waiting on my I-Dunn equivalent.
Is the framerate meant to be a bit choppy even on the early levels? Is my console I just got like a month ago already fucked or is this a case of consoles in action. I can tolerate it but it's just making me wonder a bit. Playing 4.1 on PC I didn't dip below 60 until basically the endgame levels.
e50094 No.15877310
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
webm the new songs please
d0d830 No.15877683
>>15877254
Welcome to classic EDF where frames regularly tank. Not an issue with 4.1 on PC though…
abda6a No.15878756
Discount Serious Sam.
Not getting it.
ffa2eb No.15878872
>>15857646
>niggers taking the health even when they dont need it
>now its automated
af94b4 No.15879525
>Every other thread right now is shit
Discuss what team composition you favor the most, mine being three rangers and one air raider for that sweet vehicle synergy.
fba581 No.15879553
>>15879525
>team composition
Imagine not being so autistic and socially anxious that you can't even play multiplayer games, haha. That'd probably be really fun. Haha. Ha.
Solo ranger
af94b4 No.15879632
Ah right, how's the english voice acting for 5?
2d06e9 No.15880145
af94b4 No.15880581
2d06e9 No.15880586
>>15880581
4.1 was done by Xseed, 5 was done in-house.
9e1d4b No.15880634
Can you play online pirated?
582e2b No.15880937
>bought the jap version last year
>about to buy eng version
>second guess myself
>remember that I love EDF
13af26 No.15881365
>A series flat out recycles an entire map and a mission on it but somehow it doesn't bother me
f41855 No.15881387
>>15880586
Is it full of engrish?
Because I'm still fine with this.
2d06e9 No.15881421
>>15881387
Not engrish so much as just awkward translation, particularly the songs.
11dffb No.15881649
>>15881365
I would be sad if that mission wasn't there.
5f88ac No.15881771
>>15857168
STD!
STD!
S!
T!
D!
5fd4c8 No.15881820
is this starship troopers? i would like to know more
6cb80f No.15882085
>>15881365
That's the entire series. Every game is just a rehash of previous games with some enhancements.
2cfeb6 No.15882183
>>15875897
First snipe all drones, this may take a while but is necessary. Try also to eliminate the hectors. When you shoot a hive's bug they will swarm you, when you shoot a hive a big wave happens, when you kill a hive metal bugs will attack.
Air raider should carry at least one cannon strike (the high damage high radius kinetic strike, 2 will kill a hive if hit properly) and the level 50 grape APC. Once ready to assault a hive, drive up to it, and from max range drop your Cannon artillery strike on it, then reverse to the edge of the level behind where you start. Use the grape's speed in reversing to ride the wall and kite / kill the wave with the penetrating cannon.
>>15875934
Fencer melee weapons on pre-inferno difficulties are horrible at engaging bees, so an alternate setup I recommend is handcannon + blast twin spear. The handcannon can dash cancel as well, and with a little practice is an effective kiting weapon, and the BTS lets you gain more distance by mixing it with the dash cancels while the handcannon reloads. Javelin is slightly faster than shield or handcannon but has almost no offensive purpose, so I always use handcannon or shield for dash canceling.
6cb80f No.15882254
>>15882183
I found Force Ax to be fairly effective when combined with Javelins. They will cancel eachother for the highest attack, dash, and recovery speeds in the game. You can easily scoot circles without getting hit while just pounding into the swarm with rapid force waves.
af94b4 No.15883538
>Ranger can call in the epsilon railgun now
Is there any reason to have another class anymore?
0e43ee No.15883792
>>15882085
that is true but the improvements have been noticeable and constant with each itteration of it
>Monster Attack:See those ants?You can shoot them
>Global Defence Force:See those spiders?You can blow them up
>Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon:See those spiders?You can blow them up with a friend
>EDF 2025 ot EDF 4.1:See that green werapon crate?Good luck getting to it on Inferno
>EDF 5:See that building?You can go up the stairs
af94b4 No.15884535
>>15883792
wing divers dont get raped enough
98ca82 No.15884565
There gonna be an English physical release? If I go digital I might as well just wait for the PC version.
6cb80f No.15887914
>>15884565
No physical. No PC. Final destination.
40b4a1 No.15890549
I don't suppose anyone is up for 4.1 on pc?
b506e5 No.15891073
are you meant to run around grabbing up as many weapon and armor crates as possible, or should i just focus on squashing the bugs?
fb28f9 No.15891209
>>15891073
>are you meant to run around grabbing up as many weapon and armor crates as possible
More or less
More weapons weans more options to tackle levels
More armor means more buffer for some strategies (anything between 2000-20000 is viable for solo inferno without being too overkill, having millions of armor will still get you killed if you're playing like a tard)
Once you hit Inferno / hardest collecting crates actually becomes a bit more strategic because there's a limit to how many can be spawned at any time and you really want to make sure you almost only have healing crates on the field and the ability to spawn more, it's also easier to hit said limit due to strategies relying more heavily on you doing chip damage to the enemy force / spawners at higher difficulties
b506e5 No.15891300
>>15891209
follow-up question: am i "doing it wrong" if i'm mostly sticking to the standard loadouts (i.e. machine gun/bazooka for the ranger)? there's some interesting stuff in the arsenal, but so much of it seems either situational or coop-oriented.
86f6a1 No.15891334
>>15881365
Crimson is a fucking great mission, of course you don't mind that they kept it.
>>15891073
The general strategy is to try to leave the last 1 or 2 enemies alive to delay end of mission until you pick up all the boxes, but that only works on missions that end when you kill all the enemies.
fb28f9 No.15891368
>>15891300
>follow-up question: am i "doing it wrong" if i'm mostly sticking to the standard loadouts
Nah, it's really not until inferno / hardest that you really have to think hard about your loadout
And even then I see myself sticking with a handful of loadouts, granted I'm not from the most qualified player in those threads so you might get different answers too.
e4cf8c No.15891931
Am I the only AR that enjoys using the heli? Everyone I meet says that theyre shit and awful to control, but sans take-off speed Ive never had a problem. Its fun as fuck to strafe bugs, get low enough to the ground to mow them all down, start playing It Aint Me while using the Flamer, getting on-top of a building and throwing down a airstrike after landing on a building and GTFOing when they start attacking.
4f7a9a No.15891955
>>15891931
>sans take-off speed
and low armor
the bike has more armor for fucks sakes
af94b4 No.15892018
>>15891931
The only heli I think is fun is the Bazelart Vulture, the only anti boss helicopter in the game. Float above giant ants and dick them down with lasers.
fb28f9 No.15892042
>>15891931
>Am I the only AR that enjoys using the heli?
I'm too bad with them to enjoy them, that and you can't use it at all against a fairly wide array of enemies
764d1c No.15892707
>>15891931
I'm a Heli-tard too, you're not alone.
Air Raider edit with a blue hat saying "Please be patient, I'm trying to take off" when?
6cb80f No.15893056
>>15891931
Everyone is shit. Helicopters are the absolute best vehicle in both 4.1 and get even better in 5. People think that because they are too retarded to learn something that its the game's fault and not their own.
40bcf0 No.15893779
>>15891931
My only problem with vehicles is they don't have anyway of getting more ammo.
af94b4 No.15894020
>>15893779
Drive it in a pile of ants and call a new vehicle
374a12 No.15894067
>>15893056
>>15892707
>>15891931
Heli is the most fun vehicle in 4.1 for sure. Can't wait to try them in 5.
6df49f No.15894243
>>15891931
The heli is a pure monster in the right hands. They're some of the best vehicles hands down. Problem is most don't bother learning how to pilot them. The motorcycle is really good in this game too. It will shred through a ton of ants without fail.
6cb80f No.15894529
>>15894067
In 5 they handle a bit better and can finally have shields placed on em without falling off. You can also quickly leave and enter them to drop airstrikes and deploy equipment while in the air.
b935b1 No.15894553
>Never played EDF
>Google gameplay
how can a game look both fucking retarded but also extremely fun
582e2b No.15894557
>>15894553
Its just Japanese Serious Sam
849d18 No.15894619
>>15894553
I remember when I looked at it at gamestop the guy at the counter said
>its pure game get it
>its only 4 buck
That was 2017 on the 360 though. I'm glad I found this series though, I am craving the new edf for PC
6cb80f No.15894693
>>15894553
Its like playing with army men in video game form. You just mix all your little green soldiers, action figures, and micro-machines, then pit em against garden insects and toy robots. Genocide gun is the almighty magnifying glass.
c3a980 No.15895153
>>15857258
I hate ALL of the new mecha designs. Fugly as hell.
358ec7 No.15895585
I pirated 4.1 a year ago but without any mission packs and DLC being included for some reason.
Is there a torrent with all the updates and dlc?
6cb80f No.15895861
>>15895153
What about them don't you like exactly and why? What designs do you like?
4c8c1a No.15895898
358ec7 No.15896042
>>15895873
Found the game and all the update and dlcs on the zantix website, but man what a inconvenient process this is to get it running, probably the first time i have to write a text in a folder with instructions for myself to even understand what i am doing because of the fuckload of patch and crack files.
>>15895898
If id had a GOG release i would have pulled the trigger long ago.
66d2f5 No.15897481
Damn, bikes are so much fun in this game.
They are ridiculously good against all kinds of gun wielding aliens as well.
d35822 No.15897562
ok so:
how long until it get released on PC ?
6cb80f No.15897690
>>15897562
Official PC release date is 4/1/2019. Get hype!
6cb80f No.15897737
cc3e0a No.15897946
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15881820
There is literally a Starship Troopers collab dlc for it based of the CG movies.
What's the matter, ape? You wanna live forever?
fuck my weak webm-fu, can't get a 2 minute commercial below 20mb
6cb80f No.15897954
>>15897946
There isn't. It was just cross-advertising.
cc3e0a No.15897993
>>15897954
Well shit, just fucking shoot me in the head then because that was half the reason for me giving a hoot and the whole reason for me trying to avoid the topic of the game for so long.
13af26 No.15898613
Perhaps one of you guys can help sate my autism.
I cannot find full resolution versions of these radical posters anywhere on the web. Some sperg on youtube flashed these up for a second in his video and this was the best I could get.
I've cropped, tweaked, resized, tried every reverse image searching service there is and tried all sorts of key word combinations in searches and I cannot find these on the internet at full size. After some investigation I've discovered they are from reversible cover art on random japanese physical copies, and variants of the pictures are available as PSN avatars. I've also discovered a website which has them as press material but they will not allow you to download the full resolution pictures unless your account is verified as a press account with them. This has driven me to wit's end.
Help me, /v/. You're my only hope.
6df49f No.15898825
>>15898613
Couldn't find it either. But I did find these.
6f9361 No.15899453
>>15887914
>>15897690
fishing for (You)s again?
de64ea No.15899753
Was about to ask for advice on how to clear Inferno on Inferno as the wing diver, but then I discovered you can just get on top of the transports that spawn in the last part and basically turn that part into a total joke
6cb80f No.15899777
>>15899453
What do you mean?
>>15899753
getting on top of and inside transports is a fairly common and effective tactic for WD. It obviously doesn't work too well when flying enemies are present as they can move and shoot through transports a lot of the time. If you have a buddy using a helicopter then you can do something similar with any class standing on top.
c43689 No.15900203
>epsilon armored railgun doesn't belong to the air raider
This is why we can't have nice things
6cb80f No.15900304
>>15900203
He gets blacker variants with high-powered piercing rounds. Though it doesn't do as much damage, it moves, aims, and fires really fast. Overall, it is better than the railgun.
806b11 No.15900404
if i buy this will any of you guys play with me? im sick of playing these alone
582e2b No.15900421
>>15900404
You can make a room and I may or may not join
7d99ea No.15900443
>>15900404
Post the room nignog
2cfeb6 No.15900560
>>15900203
>>15900304
Does that mean that ranger's sniper weapons are nerfed to force you to use the railgun, or is it just relegated to "nobody will ever use this" tier?
A faster railgun tank for actual utility against targets that aren't giant and slow is nice. The gigantus tanks were always shit useless late game / high difficulty compared to the grape APCs anyway. Or is this railgun tank just replacing the piercing apc?
40b4a1 No.15900570
>>15900404
I would very much like to play. Also which game? Cause I only got 4.1 on peesee.
26eb49 No.15900739
>>15895861
4.1 designs.
The Vegalta looked like mech. The new one looks like a ballerina. WTF is it with those tiny legs and wide hips? It looks like it would topple over with a breeze.
And the Balam looked like a walking fortress. The new one looks like an inflated toy.
UGLY
87791e No.15900793
>>15900739
AFAIK the new "Balam" isn't a Balam™®,but it fills it's role and it's even called diffrently. Barga I think? I'm not sure, but you can hear it being called out in the trailers.
and the new vegalta looks more like a generic Japanese mech instead of a Metal Gear-ass walker-talk which was fine
I haven't played or watched any EDF5 videos, just the trailers
6cb80f No.15900907
>>15900560
I believe his snipers were weakened just a little bit, but not enough not to use them. The Epsilon still has some use since its got a ton of health, but any ranger worth his salt wouldn't sacrifice the support equipment for it unless absolutely necessary.
>>15900793
The new designs remind me a lot of the Shrikes from Blue Gender. Fitting given the subject matter of the two. What sells me on the new designs though is the taller posture to safely shoot over allies and stand toe to toe with frogs and greys, and the nice big flat top you can use for turrets or for allies to stand on. It is just a functionally better design.
It is the Varga. Essentially the same thing as Balam, but with more moves. It is technically a mobile crane, which is why it looks the way it does. I like it as well as it looks more like older super robot designs with a dash of Urbanmech.
cf8c6b No.15900942
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
<One hour fucking myself up
>Finally finished the damn mission.
This is EDF, it is not about the grind, but the path.
The fact you cannot play on inferno from the get go was weird.
66d2f5 No.15903511
>>15900560
Railguns suck unfortunatey.
Not completely useless, but there are always better options.
de64ea No.15905663
>>15899777 (checked)
>getting on top of and inside transports is a fairly common and effective tactic for WD
Well seems obvious now but it's really pretty fucking neat.
Now on the other hand finding a viable use for Gungnir on solo inferno wasn't something I was ever expecting nevermind it being extremely viable on several missions (37, 54, 71)
40b4a1 No.15905693
>>15900942
>you cannot play on inferno from the get go
Oh thank god. The temptation to just get carried and amass overpowered weapons in 4.1 was too great. Tons of people running around with 300 armor and the finger of god.
2cfeb6 No.15907566
>>15875897
The highest level bazelart is devastating. Most classes have trouble soloing crimson on inferno. The only problem air raider has is picking up the drops afterwards.
>>15905693
Considering the sheer grind required to get Rule of God, they more likely just cheat engine'd it or whatever tool people use these days. Though why they'd do that and not also give themselves 20k+ armor like 2/3 the players online I don't know.
2cfeb6 No.15907568
>>15907566
Ah fucked that up meant to reply to
>>15891931
de64ea No.15907601
>>15907566
>Most classes have trouble soloing crimson on inferno
Really?
I could see rangers having trouble but Wing Divers have tons of weapons that deal insanely well with that mission and Fencer can kite the swarm endlessly provided you're halfway decent.
8bbf8c No.15907613
I sometimes kick people who have absurdly high HP value and suspiciously low game completion %. on my AR and Ranger i have like 1200 hp and mp rooms show I have 11% of game completed. meanwhile I've seen people with 10k+ hp who had less than that.
>mfw
>>15907601
You forgot that Wing Divers can just sit on a tree
2cfeb6 No.15907636
>>15907601
Wing diver you can literally sit on a tree with a rapier and win it
and yet online people constantly fuck up and fail
This is just based off my online experience, air raider with that helicopter is zero effort required on that mission, where ranger can't do it and WD requires a brain, and fencer requires a brain and skills to pull it off. At least if you have low armor. Which is hilarious because the strategy most scrub ARs use on that is balam tanking it.
0c4739 No.15907642
>Clear the final mission
>Doesn't give me a slideshow of what happens after, just a CONGRATULATIONS screen and credits.
Huh? What? What happens after? I need to know!
de64ea No.15907660
>>15907642
>Huh? What? What happens after?
The DLC missions, prepare your anus.
>>15907636
> air raider with that helicopter is zero effort required on that mission
Well 0 effort beside learning how to pilot the heli which is not as simple as I'd like on M/KB (rotation with the mouse is ass), Nereid Angel would be 0 effort don't even have to learn shit you have an autoaim cannon with enough ammo to make it perfectly viable
6cb80f No.15907661
>>15907636
>balam tanking crimson
The more I think about it, the more I wish I couldn't think at all. Why would you pick the class that is all about making things as easy as possible, and then do the exact opposite? I bet they don't even buff its damage reduction either.
0c4739 No.15907673
>>15907660
>The DLC missions, prepare your anus.
I'm playing 5 and don't think I have any DLCs. But I saw some Nip player complete the finale and they received a slideshow on what happens after, nothing for me.
de64ea No.15907683
>>15907673
>I'm playing 5 and don't think I have any DLCs
Was thinking about 4.1, nevermind then.
>But I saw some Nip player complete the finale and they received a slideshow on what happens after, nothing for me.
Either regional difference or something to do with the difficulty being cleared.
6cb80f No.15907691
>>15907673
Are you playing online or offline? Online doesn't have it.
4d3d99 No.15907697
>tfw there's nothing left to protect
0c4739 No.15907698
>>15907683
>>15907691
Online, dang it.
Guess I'll have to look for it, then.
af94b4 No.15907707
>>15907601
Rangers don't have any problems, you just have to bite the bullet occasionally and use the laser gun.
0c4739 No.15907715
>Not a single mention of Sarge
The best features of 5 are the Spriggans, Grim reapers and Sarges' fellas.
66d2f5 No.15908293
>>15907613
There is no good way to gain max HP in 4.1.
Playing normally gives to little, so most people either cheat or AFK grind.
Both of these methods give high max HP and low game completion %.
One of the great things about 5 is that you gain armor at a decent rate, so you can play the game normally and don't really feel the need to grind just for armor.
374a12 No.15908405
>>15869136
In 4.1 if you didn't start on at least hard you were playing easy mode. It's absolutely necessary to start on hard IMO to enjoy the game.
>>15881365
Crimson should be in every EDF from now on.
>>15881387
>>15881421
The songs are worse, yeah. Thankfully the camp was far less important than the gameplay.
de64ea No.15909189
>someone made a script that auto collects armor and weapon crates as soon as they drop for 4.1 on PC
That's some good shit right there.
806b11 No.15909994
I made a room titled "Doing all missions" and like the title says, I'm doing all multiplayer missions starting from 1 on Hard mode. join if you like. I play Air Raider and I plan on always bringing a laser guide or beacon for guided only fencer guns and stuff cause they're cool as fuck and I've never seen them used before.
my username is MarcopolisNeko.
806b11 No.15910367
>>15909994
the room concluded hours ago, please do not go searching for it because it is gone.
however, i will continue tomorrow. i think we made it up to like episode 15.
6cb80f No.15912975
I really hate to say it, but ever since he was introduced, I felt Fencer was the most limited and boring of classes. The new equipment slots help quite a lot, but I felt he could really benefit with having some more overlap with AR - having things like back-mounted auto turrets, support auras, and drone bays. I mean, he's pretty fun and powerful, but I just look at him compared to the other classes and he feels so limited by comparison. It really doesn't help that he actually has the fewest weapons of the four by a large margin. This is coming from someone who plays AR the most, which has the largest and most diverse toybox at his disposal.
5d0ad9 No.15913124
>>15912975
Fencer is like almost like wingdiver, both have zero support tools (unlike rangers with their reversers), both have terrible options for anti air. The only thing fencers excel more is staying at the front longer to be a literal shield.
Still enjoy zipping around and pounding ayys with vulcan hammers and get assblasted by an ant because in a milisecond there was no Damage reduction
6cb80f No.15913209
>>15913124
I know what they are and aren't. They are my second favorite and second most played class across thousands of hours of EDF. As I said before, they have the fewest weapons in the game, only about 160, some of which are shields and co-op exclusive items, further reducing that number. throw in the "useless" weapons and you end up with having not very much to play with compared to everyone else. I'm not saying that he is bad or not fun or anything, just that he doesn't live up to his potential. He really needs just a little bit more, a little combat support, some air-raider-lite to flesh him out. He is power armor, a walking vehicle, he should have more weapons and tools that fit with that position. He needs a personal laser marker, a shield screen emitter, power/plasma/guard auras, things to make him more than just a wing diver that's actually useful. Frontline support and utility would totally be his thing.
6cb80f No.15913258
>>15913209
I further want to add that dual-slot weapons are a thing barely explored, save for the twin-link mechanic and melee+javelin meta. He could have items that take up a slot in order to allow use of other items, such as laser sights to use his missiles or plasma packs to reload his energy weapons. He could have things that provide passive bonuses in addition to being required equipment, like an ammo pack that increases max ammo and reload speed of his weapon, while being required to use heavier chainguns or cannons. He could have a railgun that requires you to equip it on both slots to make up each side of the cannon else its useless. There is just so much out there that Fencer is not, but should be, than what he is.
66d2f5 No.15913407
>>15913124
Wingdivers have great anti air, I mainly use them to deal with flying enemies.
>>15913258
Most of these ideas sound pointless.
Why equip a railgun when you can equip two artillery cannons instead, same with the ammo pack and gatling gun.
5d0ad9 No.15913432
>>15913258
>>15913209
>Ammo packs etc
Thankfully EDF 5 (if it ever gets ported to PC) have some of those items (reduces recoil and what not) that has its own slot
>Support equipment
Agreed. Imagine if you can dump your shield charge to make a temporary shield barrier or hell just give the decoys from AR to Fencer equipments
>>15913407
The 15 homing shot is great for stunning dragons bees but not drones and flying vehicles. Lances work great provided you get close enough but by the time that happens you probably got stunlocked by flying vehicles
de64ea No.15913564
>>15913258
>such as laser sights to use his missiles
There's a mod for that now on PC, although it comes with "rebalancing" so your mileage may vary, although the modding tools should allow for you to remove changes you don't like.
>>15913432
>but not drones and flying vehicles
I find the Idunn-FF melts them, but that might also be because M/KB helps aiming really fast and make minor correction to keep the red onesstunlocked much more easily.
5d0ad9 No.15913610
>>15913564
Theres modding for EDF 4.1 now?
Wingdiver pantsu mod when??
>Idunn-FF
I wish the Funderbow XD was viable in inferno as the funderbow 20 was in hard.
de64ea No.15913629
>>15913610
>Theres modding for EDF 4.1 now?
Yeah, not much just stats and new weapons for now.
https://github.com/zeddidragon/sgott/releases
>Wingdiver pantsu mod when??.
You could probably get something together with texmod if you really wanted, but apparently the modding tools don't really allow for model/texture changes yet.
66d2f5 No.15913639
>>15913432
I was talking about E.D.F. 5.
The mag blaster destroys drones really easily because it has high dps and no knockback.
The closed laser works great against bees because of it's great range.
The stardust cannon is just ridiculous and destroys everything .
6cb80f No.15914176
>>15913407
Why equip two cannons when you could equip one really big cannon that is faster and stronger than two cannons? Of course this argument just leads down to "Why use anything but the best weapons?' and the answer is "Because its cool!". The point was to add more variety and make use of his unique mechanics. If you just want to use two cannons the entire game then that is your choice, but I would like to use a lot of different weapons in a lot of different ways, even if they are sub-par or pointless.
66d2f5 No.15914406
>>15914176
>Of course this argument leads down to "Why use anything but the best weapons?"
No, it doesn't. It leads to the question "Why have two options when one is clearly better"
The options needs to be different without one being better than the other.
>The point was to add more variety and make use of his unique mechanics.
You failed.
>If you just want to use two cannons the entire game
I never claimed that I only wanted to use two cannons for the entire game. I just claimed that your ideas suck, because there wasn't enough of a difference from using two cannons.
>even if they are sub-par or pointless.
That is stupid, they all need to be good in their own way.
6cb80f No.15914834
>>15914406
So then what is the point of there being force blades, arm hounds, bug spray, trucks, the list goes fucking on and on. most items in the game are sub-par or useless.
66d2f5 No.15915398
>>15914834
Are you talking about E.D.F. 5?
They fixed the balance in that game so that there are very few sub-par or useless weapons.
Do you think otherwise?
I am talking only about E.D.F. 5 here.
2cfeb6 No.15916161
>>15913124
The laser chainsaw and idunn fuck all air enemies forever. WD excels at mid range and close range, but has poor sniping for most of the game.
6cb80f No.15916591
>>15915398
Yes I am, and there are plenty of sub-par or useless weapons in the game still, and the DLC weapons will eventually make everything else a joke, but that isn't related to your argument. You are asking "Why have two options when one is clearly better?", and the answer is still "because its cool". The whole point of EDF is to just have fun and play around like you're in a sandbox, it is even Sandlot's slogan, not to be some tryhard powergamer faggot caring about being the best and using the best. The red Nix is clearly better than any other vehicles, yet we still have all these tanks and helicopters to use. Why? Because they are fun and different. They all add variety. Arm hounds, Flashing Spear, Force Ax, all exist to add variety and are used because they are fun, not because they are better than two cannons. Why you would want to project a shield screen, guide your own nukes, or have one massive multi-part laser cannon on your back is not because they are better than other things, but simply because they are cool and different.
66d2f5 No.15916782
>>15916591
Stop trying to project this powergamer strawman onto me.
Have you actually played E.F.D. 5?
You don't sound like you have.
The DLC weapons comment is pointless as they are the highest level weapons in the game and you will only get them by doing the challenge maps on Inferno. For most of your playtime you won't have them.
E.D.F. 5 is a better game because the weapons are balanced better, just because they made mistakes with some weapons does not change that fact.
Arm hounds and flashing spear add variety because they are a valid choice, if they were sub-par or pointless then they would be useless.
Also, why are you comparing two cannons with melee weapons? They have totally different uses and can't really be compared well.
44f103 No.15916802
Fencer is great in EDF5. In EDF4.1 he was only playable as fast attacker.
With new support equipment like Exoskelet and Recoil reduction he is also excellent as long/midrange artillery.
And with both Shield enchantment you are basically invincible.
Fencer in EDF4.1 was a bit boring, because most ranged weapons were totally useless in Hardest and Inferno.
7a1bd9 No.15916840
>>15916802
The high-end exoskeleton equipment that reduced the recoil by a shitload, made the heavy flamethrower my favorite Fencer weapon in EDF5 while it was a chore to properly use it on 4.1. There is also an exoskeleton item in the DLCs that make your Fencer run moves at 300% speed for some GOTTA GO FAST shit
But yeah Fencer was the class I've played the least on 4.1, while I dropped Wing Diver in EDF5 after D3 Publisher fixed the unlimited flight exploit when the first missions pack DLC was released
44f103 No.15916864
>>15916840
I don't have the flamethrower yet, but I guess you have to use it with a shield, in order to survive the 6 seconds fire delay, right?
6cb80f No.15916924
>>15916782
You know what, I think I have completely misunderstood your argument as I just realized you are taking everything I say literally, while being very specific with your wording. However, I am yielding because I don't feel like trying to sort it out now. I do want to thank you for posting though as I don't get to try to discuss EDF in detail too often, especially not 5. It felt like only 3 of us were playing it a year ago, so I didn't get to discuss it much then. For the record, I have over 1000 hours in 5, cleared hard and inferno with Air Raider (including both DLC), cleared about 30 inferno missions with Ranger, and with the English release I am now playing through it with Fencer. I played around with him and Wing Diver a bit before, but now I am really digging into him to learn the finer details. in 4 and 4.1, fencer was my main dude though. I think IFPS is the best EDF just because I like the enemy designs and traditional EDF quirks in it more, but 5 is the best on a technical level for all the improvements and features it provides.
>>15916840
I loved that item. Being able to turn Fencer and Wing Diver into Rangers was some of the most fun I had with them, as well as turning Ranger into Doomguy. God bless equipment slots.
de64ea No.15917047
>>15916802
>Fencer in EDF4.1 was a bit boring, because most ranged weapons were totally useless in Hardest and Inferno.
I'm currently finishing up Inferno with him on 4.1 because I mainly fucking hated playing Fencer until not long ago
There's quite a few ranged weapon that are fairly viable on Inferno, but the main issue is that he lacks a good 1.5-2k damage instant shot weapon and/or a good rapid fire with no delay weapon
The NC290 is utter shit there's no reason to ever use it on inferno
The NCSS would have needed quite a big buff or higher level variant to be worth considering over the 35MM, namely tighter spread, less recoil, bigger mag
The 35MM is absolutely fantastic for a many missions but they have limited use against swarmers despite the piercing so that limits your second set to a very limited set of weaponry, and even more so if you're gonna have a lot of air against you, also you want to crank that rotation speed higher because default makes the thing feel sluggish as hell.
Mortars are all fucking useless except the FH22 because they either have the worst fucking animation lock in the game or not enough damage or both, and even then the FH22 you're not gonna use much outside of underground missions which need better range than 100m
The Flame Revolvers are near useless because they restrict you loadout way too much (aka only one of them and no weapon/shield that restrict your movement at all on the other slot) to be worth using outside of underground mission, also rotation speed under 70 means you can't use them at all.
The DynaForce Blade penetrates shields and that's pretty much the only reason why you would ever use it, extremely useful on the few mission where that is relevant
Missiles outside of the FGX, suck or aren't usable without coop, the FGX itself is incredibly good against everything it kills in 1-2 hits provided you can put some distance between what you're shooting at and you.
The Galleon AP is very useful but only if you can afford taking a pair of them for that mission, but then they're fairly good against everything outside of an Erginus
The FGZ is useful against one thing, bees that are too close / aggroed on you for the FGX, anything else and it's better dealt with another weapon
The Dexter Auto Shotgun is also fairly unremarkable, spread not tight enough to deal with drones mid range effectively damage not high enough to consider over spears.
But I do have to agree that none of those are even remotely as fun to use as two Vibro Roller D9
66d2f5 No.15917053
>>15916924
Alright, I understand.
I definitely love equipment slots as well.
>>15916864
Flamethrowers can be upgraded to only have a 0.34 second fire delay, this makes them way easier to useful.
5d0ad9 No.15917062
>>15916161
>poor sniping
Isnt the Gungnir and monster-s top tier for WD
>>15917047
The FGZ is pretty good at filling Royal insects and erginuses with a shitload of bullets
> Dual rollers
Mein melanin enriched friend, nothing is more satisfying than running over giant insects with tank treads strapped to a hammer. DLC 1 is a must for any fencer just so you can run over hundred green ants.
Shame the lower level rollers have abyssmal rev up time
de64ea No.15917091
>>15917062
>Isnt the Gungnir and monster-s top tier for WD
Gungnir makes you a dead weight for about 40 seconds once you fire it, so it's only helpful in a handful of missions
Monster S is basically a Stringer J9 with no piercing and slightly subpar accuracy but faster bullet travel so it's relevant for some cases but not that often either
There's no real Hercules/Galleon AP equivalent so that means you have to deal with the mediocre laser snipers if you want that type of weaponry, you can also use the Thunder Bow XD and pretend like you're actually hitting anything past 200m reliably
2cfeb6 No.15918236
>>15917062
Gungnir is literally the hardest weapon to acquire besides rule of god, and monster-s is high leveled enough to be poor once you have it, and nothing good is in between the two.
Meanwhile the ranger has the hercules and lysander and every single rocket launcher has unlimited projectile range, the air raider has the railgun and airstrikes and the fencer has the hand cannons and heavy cannons, which have much more utility. Air raiders are the best at taking out large stationary targets, and rangers are the best at moving dropships and smaller enemies.
13af26 No.15929219
>The rain weather effect gives you shiny wet Wing Diver booty
7cc22f No.15929678
>>15929219
Even now, there is still hope for man
59c0d7 No.15931363
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I practically shit myself when this started playing. I think this is the first time an EDF game has spooked me.
802074 No.15931383
6cb80f No.15934195
>>15931363
That whole mission was rather odd to me just because of how different it was. I never expected them to actually add in some boss-ass magic man after the mothership fight. It is quite satisfying though to have a traditional sort of final boss, complete with delicious lootsplosion.
>>15931383
>when
*Never ever
9e1d4b No.15934214
Is it confirmed that the heavy soldiers are girls with deep voices/ Voice changers? I love girls in huge mech suits.
7a1bd9 No.15934283
>>15934214
>I love girls in huge mech suits.
The sole times i recall this in the jap version were during the mission with an army of giant ayys attacking an european town (one of the bipedal mech NPCs is piloted by a girl) or the balga showdown in mission 100
c38ef1 No.15934994
>>15934214
All the girls in the english VA have butch voices. Enjoy that. Also
>This is mankinds final trump card
has been converted to
>This is humankinds final trump card
God damnit.
c38ef1 No.15941349
>>15934994
After looking into it further the most cancerous thing about the voice acting so far is that it butchered the songs the soldiers sing. For whatever reason they decided a 1:1 translation is no good.
0dab82 No.15941754
>>15934994
It is really strange too, because of some of the things the soldiers say. Let us also not forget the leftist strawman that thinks peace was ever an option, and when it becomes clear that they are losing, talks about being put on reservations when it is clear that they are just going to butcher humanity.
7a1bd9 No.15941970
>>15941754
>Let us also not forget the leftist strawman that thinks peace was ever an option, and when it becomes clear that they are losing, talks about being put on reservations when it is clear that they are just going to butcher humanity.
it was present on the jap version I recall, some woman calling for peace negotiations with the aliens when it was clear from the get-go they would be butchered to the last and probably keep a very few individuals alive as specimens for mass cloning like what happened with the giant pepes
13af26 No.15949708
Why does the Suppress Gun even exist? It seems to be total dogshit always.
c38ef1 No.15953221
>>15949708
EDF Always had shit weapons. I'm just happy that almost every weapon in the new one is relevant as opposed to each class only having about 6-10 useable weapons for inferno.
44f103 No.15954392
>>15953221
I was kinda disappointed that Fencer got no new weapons at all.
But at least you can now use all those weapons from 4.1 that used to be useless.
c38ef1 No.15964189
>>15954392
Technically the game doesn't even need any new weapons to be fresh, just make the weapons that get outdated as shit levelable, which they did for EDF 5.
9a4a5b No.15967779
Should I get 4.1 and all the DLC, or 5?
Playing on PS4.
07730e No.15967788
>>15857106
What's so good about this game ?
it look boring as fuck. All you have to do is shoot
9a4a5b No.15968164
>>15967779
I ended up buying 4.1. this game is absolutely insane
9a4a5b No.15968181
>>15968164
Hard mode is hard, and I haven't heard people say "7 years" this much in my life.
1833cd No.15968222
>>15964189
Wait you can level up weapons? Can't wait to main my 150mm.
7e6991 No.15986692
>>15857106
Holy fucking shit, i just played it and it is so much better gameplay-wise than 4.1. The amount of QoL changes is welcomed very much that it removes the downright memetic tediousness of (collecting boxes) the series. Not to mention that Fencer and Air Raider get some much-needed overhauls to their classes.
Still, i can't help but to say that 4.1 has way better aesthetics and soundtrack than this one. Maybe i'm just biased that their fencer and WD has better uniforms. Also the voice acting is somehow worse than 4.1, WHAT THE FUCK !
>>15881365
Crimson is definitely superior imo, all because it has MORE ants so you could appreciate the sheer scale of RED ANTS in all their chitinous glory. However, the ambush mission is definitely not a bitch to collect boxes for, unlike crimson.
>>15871668
Ahh, so that's how it works. Atleast now i there's a way to deal with dupes, even if it merely gives a facade of 'upgrading' weapons.
0dab82 No.15993382
>>15986692
It does play better, but it also seems somewhat easier. I also resent the tutorial missions somewhat. All of that is in the in-game manual, there is no need to waste those missions like that.
60cfea No.15993543
>>15857106
>bloodborne station
It better get a PC release soon
e93348 No.15993578
15b9a7 No.15999295
>>15993382
I don't think it's easier tho, just that it has more options to improve your class so that it doesn't felt as rigid as 4.1's. Plus i can go straight to Hard difficulty relatively easy compared to 4.1 where you can cheese some inferno weapons. Oh and i have to mention that some percentage of the armor you get is shared between classes, lessening the grind even further.
As much as i like 4.1 i quite often forget how much time that i have spent walking towards boxes.
690c17 No.16002235
>watch some people play it
>looks pretty fun
>4.1 is on pc so I assume they'll release it for pc too
>ps4 only
oh ok then, back to 4.1 I guess. It's pretty fun but I wish I could play it with others. what a shame I have no friends
0b2f0c No.16002361
>tv broke, end up with shitty old tv
>can't play ps4 on shitty old tv
>go to store to buy edf 5, to at least have it
>it's digital only
Why? i thought the series was getting more popular and selling more?Or was it just the pc port?
>>16002235
It will probably end up getting ported, 4.1 and 4.1 the shooter are on pc, the localization is already done, they just want to maximize the ps4 copies sold(and dlc).
690c17 No.16002452
>>16002361
Hopefully it does get ported and soon.
13af26 No.16002475
>>15986692
>WD has better uniforms
I respect your wrong opinion friend.
f148d7 No.16009656
>>16002475
Wing divers truly are made to star in lewd doujins.
ffa2eb No.16009962
>playing hardest or inferno 4.1 online
>we are doing exceptionally well
>some faggot is using cheat engine
>kick them
>they rejoin the lobby while we are mid mission and 10 seconds later the game crashes
>this has happened several times already
a483ed No.16012548
How do you deal with the armored grey ayys? My buddy is playing Fencer and it seems like he can just tear them to pieces but I am struggling with the Ranger. All my powerful sniper rifles that I was using to pop frogs are useless because the greys are so fast and tough and it seems I can't avoid their shots if they come into medium range.
26df0e No.16012605
>>16002235
it probably will
4.1 sold pretty well for PC
ab82d2 No.16012687
Anyone want to play EDF4.1 with me? I never got the chance to play it despite buying it on launch for pc.
513fa0 No.16012797
>>16012548
Here’s my way of dealing with em, always remember that they move fast but they don’t start dodge rolling until they take damage. Mind you, this is only my experience as a ranger as i only got there as one.
>1. Target the legs
<Use high-damage burst weapons to do this; grenade launchers and shotguns at close range, rifles and rockets launchers at long ranges. Don’t do medium range,as it really doesn’t do you any good. Missile launchers are pretty bad as they aim for the center of mass and the ayys are pretty fucking fast. Assault rifles are bad for this phase as they will dodge all over the place.
>2. (Optional) Target their right hand (Your left) or their head for bonus item drops
<Assault Rifles are perfect for this job as the limbs barely flinches, allowing you to put most shots in. Shotguns are my favourite ofc.
>3. Oh shit, they’re too many of them wtf should i do
Fucking run, you will die you dumb fuck
Get RUN to cover, lure them into tight alleyways where they can’t dodge well and pour a nice torrent of lead to them.
I’m going to replay that mission where you fight a city full of ayys, so fun
0a2412 No.16012854
>>16012548
generally the legs are the first to go. You could also just switch to Air raider and use any of the auto tracking or lock on weapons that rip apart everything. God damn Air raider is busted in 5.
39c225 No.16012908
So is EDF5 worth the money? Also, how does it run on a base PS4?
39c225 No.16012944
>>16012908
Wait
>no physical release
Whelp, waiting on the pc version.
a483ed No.16017106
Is it actually possible to see the Wing Diver's belly button in-game?
443c60 No.16017248
>>16012908
>>16012944
Theres EDF 5 complete with the DLC and all that shit coming in February, if they have a physical release planned they'll put it out then. Might be holding back the PC release for related reasons.
582e2b No.16017251
>>16017106
Maybe with coop, or if you ragdoll the right way
f148d7 No.16017286
>>16017106
How much would you pay a wing diver veteran prostituting herself after the bug invasion to suck your toes
48dc32 No.16020987
>>15934994
>humankind
Fucking shoot me.
bca7db No.16028830
>>16012687
I'll play it with you anon
13af26 No.16028973
>>16017106
After much experimenting and a lot of effort, I have concluded that no, it is not possible.
4ecf87 No.16030843
I pirated 4.1 and got my friends to play with me. Now we play every night till we all pass out. We stopped playing on normal mode pretty early on because it was too easy and hard provides a nice challenge and forces us to actually strategize. Shit is really fun, especially when the game is really trying to push your shit in. Beat mission 32 after like 3 tries, that was something. If EDF 5 comes to PC I'll buy it day one. Kezrni
597f07 No.16032490
>>15968164
I've played it since release and to this day I'm still occasionally taken by how chaotic it can get, the fucking noise it generates on 2 player makes my TV vibrate/resonate sometimes.
bbd53b No.16033185
I remember a while ago I played with some faggot named NEETBUX.
Does that son of a bitch browse this board or maybe even this thread?
513fa0 No.16033360
>>15863571
I think there was a mission in EDF 5 where the Nix pilot was a girl, It was called ‘Scuffle in the city’ or something, if that would get your rocks off. Doesn’t matter anyway since she’s gonna get toasted by the Ayy lmaos
>>16028973
What a fucking pervert holy shit
25157e No.16051362
can anyone recommend me any good games that are similar to edf in the sense that it's over the top anime style slaughtering hordes of monsters, swords are fine too. i'm not very familiar with the japanese gaming market outside of nintendo
56de67 No.16051553
>>16051362
>in the sense that it's over the top anime style
I wouldn't say EDF is anime style, the main inpiration seems to come from old sci-fi movies like War Of The Worlds, Godzilla, Them, etc.It does have some anime-like moments but what japanese game doesn't.
As for games like EDF, it depends what you like about it.
>Zangeki no Reginleiv
It was made by the same people that made EDF, just replace sci-fi with norse mythology.
>Rengoku 1&2
This game doesn't have giant waves of enemies but the arcade feel is similar to edf in that you get to kill and grind to get better weapons/stats.
>Onechanbara
A series also published by D3 that started similarly to EDF.You control a hot bikini wearing onechan and go around killing zombies.
>Dynasty Warrios/Musou series
This is the one to lookout for if you just enjoy killing massive waves of nameless enemies looking cool.I don't like it that much but people seem to enjoy it.
There is probably some japanese indie action game/s, they tend to be arcadey too. Even though most tend to be kinda shitty.
Let It Die also had some grinding and ok gameplay but the combat wasn't over the top and had online FTP bullshit.
e0c92f No.16052118
>>16012687
Join the room "Gemeinschaftsgeist" for 4.1 on pc. I play it almost every day for farming % (eurofag times). I can change the room name if requested in this thread.
0dab82 No.16054740
>>16051553
There is also the Touhou EDF clone.