/v/ - Video Games

>>15847944

>Character Action

so what's a game that has action without characters?

>>15847944

>character action

It's a retarded name. Either just call them action games, or spectacle fighters which at least evokes a sense of curayze.

Why did they make Bayo 2 and 3 shitendo exclusives? Is Platinum retarded?

>>15847985

probably funded by ninty

>>15847985

Nintendo paid for them you idiot

>>15847985

Because no one else wanted to pay for Bayo 2.

>character action

Are you still pushing this shitty meme?

>>15847944

why not just call it a beat em up

>>15848012

at least it's not "Shoot Them Down"s

>>15848004

Because they play differently and thus there is a reason to use another term. Why would you want genres to be even more muddied to the point where they have no meaning? It's like how anything with experience points gets labelled an RPG or as having "RPG aspects". Why would you want a term to be so vague that it's useless?

>>15848004

The inclusion of style scoring does significantly change gameplay. We should just call them stylish action games though.

>>15848022

Beat em ups are usually multiplayer centric, and have pretty shallow combat.

Anything good about Bayonetta is undermined by the constant "spam X"-prompts

The Warriors is better than any spectacle fighter.

>>15848032

Yeah, that's true

>STDs

fucking lol

>>15848057

It's not that big a deal. Just mash X.

>>15848064

It's every other enemy that you have to do it on, so if it is not enjoyable it's a big deal.

It might be that I'm bad at it, but I find that it always takes me out of the game and that it completely interrupts any flow to the gameplay, especially when those prompts are made to be challenging. I played bayonetta with a controller and towards the end of the game i had to reposition my hands on it to be able to mash faster. It gave me mad CTS, sore thumbs and having to take my focus away from the game to think about the controller was in no way fun.

Instantly tiresome every time the prompt comes up.

I used to hate her character, but now that I'm almost done with the game I think I'd pat her head.

>>15848057

I don't mind it that much, though I usually do like button mashing.

Besides, it's not that often, just in boss fights and on torture attacks.

It's really fucking hard on mouse and keyboard

Fuck that ocean boss though, I literally had to push my keyboard aside to give my mouse enough space to control that fucker properly.

>>15848205

Pincer is really fucking fun it's charge attacks brutalize everything. You just have to adjust to the slower speed is all. Sai is powerful because of the stun, but it's moveset is barebones. It trivializes the grad fights, and I just realized I never use Sai against any of the other bosses so I don't know how the stun affects their fights.

>>15848205

The sai is pretty cool because it's easy to initiate aerial combos with, plus a guaranteed stun if it's fully charged which lets you skip Monsoon's bullshit phase. Not a fan of the pincer blades though, Sam's moveset does charged attacks way better imo.

>>15848283

>those long as fuck names

Keep It Simple, Stupid.

>>15848394

>anyone who doesn’t like Skyrim is a soyboy.

Fuck off, Todd.

>>15848388

Keep in mind that Japanese is a very succint and compressed language

>>15848394

Skyrim is a porn platform. Putting it in the same action game category as Bayo would not invite flattering comparisons.

>>15848004

A friend of mine called these type of newer Platinum games 'rushdown games', because in games like Bayo you can be attacking 99% of the time while the matter of defense is handled by a single press of the dodge button, which in turn activates Witch Time and lets you spam attack even more while continuing your combo. It's all about offense and maintaining a good defense by crowd controlling enemies, so at least you have a good range of offensive options.

But we did bemoan how attacks in these types of games are all the same shit because you can deal with them all in only one way to begin with. Something like the Oath-era Ys games and Furi had very simple offensive options, but at the same time the types of attacks you had to deal with involved much more moving around and using your movement abilities to your advantage, which isn't the same when you have a single dodge move with a zillion i-frames where the only factor that matters in avoiding an attack is timing, without the positioning, resource management, and so on. The party Ys games strongly ruined this by giving you an ability which let you parry literally everything for bonus damage, meaning you could just stand in front of a boss' face and spam attack/parry without ever having to move.

DMC is kind of an exception since you don't get an i-frame roll on demand there and in turn the boss fights could do a lot more interesting attacks challenging your ability to jump for one.

>>15848022

Because the proper name is cuhrayzee.

>>15847952

>>15847958

Or just 3D Beat 'em Up? I mean, that's basically the closest.

>>15847985

Neither MS or Soyny wanted to fund the sequels back then, Nintendo did it, of course for all intents and purposes people will spin it as Nintendo blackmailing Platinum if they dared to make another Bayonetta game unless it was exclusively for them.

>>15848004

To be fair is more like how the action genre settled in the present, like Fighting Force on the PS1, same genre, different age.

>>15848283

Here we go, personally I separate the "metroidvania" from the Metroid part when there is leveling up instead of just direct upgrades, I kind of prefer the "pure" Metroid for the same reason, are shooting games then both stuff like Gradius AND Aeri Fighters? action shooting games I assume is everything from Contra to Metal Slug and the like, platformer can be both 2D and 3D, if anything there is no emphasis on combat for those., SimRPG sounds a little weird.

>>15847985

And yet Bayo 2 is better on PC

>>15849490

>Or just 3D Beat 'em Up? I mean, that's basically the closest.

But then what of 2D games that have a combat style similar to DMC with heavy emphasis on combo and style?

>>15848205

Pincers are there for the violent removal of bosses and crowds of enemies. If you can get a moment of breathing room to charge, it brutalizes just about anything it hits. That's why Sundowner's the best.

>>15848433

>DMC is kind of an exception since you don't get an i-frame roll on demand

You do though. DMC has a sideroll and a jump that both have i-frames. The exception is that you never really need to use them since you can just stunlock enemies in the air instead of dodging things.

>>15849539

Both are beat em ups I think, as I said, combat just has gotten more complex over time, stuff like Blood Rayne Betrayal.

>>15847985

shitendo is the reason the sequels even exists at all.

>>15848170

The QTEs have super easy requirements even if you're playing on the PC version where they're a bit stricter due to gamespeed being constant unlike the console versions, I don't even think you have to fill the circle unless you want extra damage from torture attacks (never tried so I could be wrong about boss QTE)

You're just not used to it, I remember back when I played I mashed so hard for over a week that my whole arm was numb with noticeable jolting-like sensation all over it and stayed like that for several days.

>>15850235

>Normalniggers don't like X

>X "failed"

Sounds like it was a resounding success to me.

Just call them hack'n'slash you faggots

>>15852580

She makes my dick go doki doki

>>15853909

I fucking hate Bayo and her freakishly proportioned body.

>>15863144

the whole reason anita sarkeesian got any leverage was because of bayonetta. Before her bayonetta video she does did "critiques" of popular music and videos until she did the bayo video, in which she proved she based everything she new about the game from advertisements alone, got blown the fuck out, had her manslave mcintosh reevaluate that situation then come back almost strictly talking about video games because getting blown up for being purposely naive about the subject being discussed was an easy victim card

>>15847944

welcome to the fucking club

>>15863144

>You say that, but I think Bayo is in a weird place with SJWs because she represents all the female empowerment tropes that they're supposed to like, but she's also hypersexualized which is something current SJW aren't supposed to like.

They'll just delude themselves into thinking she's a dyke and then everything's a-okay.

>>15863235

he's a prude anon, don't take him by face fault..

>>15863235

Fuck, that tweet reminded me of this old video. It's blocked and no VPN will get around it. There are too many videos lost because of copyright. I've started downloading youtube videos because of this jewry.