6d3746 No.15838308
>points out that games journalism was on the side of gamers against the "games cause violence" moral panic
>actual academic research was done to disprove it
>games journalism is on the moral panic side nowadays
>not a single piece of real academic research has been done because they know it will prove gamergate was right all along
This article seems pretty balanced for a relativaely mainstream news site. Are Areomagazine trustworthy at all? https://archive.fo/lhmu4
An advance warning to not respond to the (1) and done shills who have been raiding /v/ and sliding important threads recently. Report and filter them instead.
6d3746 No.15838315
>>15838308
The archive link seems to be slow as shit. I'll just post the full text here if it doesn't work properly in a few minutes.
6d3746 No.15838325
>>15838315
>>15838308
Yeh it won't archive. Here's the text:
>In the first decades of the 2000s, when the violent video game debate was at its height, games journalism (aimed at an audience of avid gamers) was at the forefront of exposing moral panics. This journalism (found in a range of outlets geared toward gaming, geek, tech and related audiences) aroused the critique that it was too defensive of its audience’s beloved hobby, but research data ultimately proved skepticism of harmful video game effects to be well warranted. Curiously, even as mainstream media has improved its coverage of video games, specialized games journalism has actually got worse. Numerous articles have begun appearing, insinuating that video games might, indeed, have nefarious impacts on players. Why has games journalism decided to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, trading critical skepticism for virtue-laden pearl clutching and unfalsifiable claims?
>The notion that video games contribute to mass shootings or other real world acts of serious aggression is all but dead. But, whether on violence or sexualization, a slew of new games journalism articles have suggested that video games may have pernicious effects on players’ attitudes and promote acceptance of violence, normalization of fascism, extremism, sexism and misogyny or even rape. The formula for such pieces is typically to state upfront that games don’t cause x since data can’t support a meaningful link between games and negative outcomes but rather that games may influence how we think about x. This seems like a dodge.
>Such statements essentially acknowledge that there is little evidence for what follows, which tends to be reduced to a moral entrepreneurship narrative that nonetheless implies a vague causality. Yet, either the implied effects have themselves already been tested and falsified, or are put in terms that are simply unfalsifiable. Often, the argument relies on clumsy references to cultivation theory, or second-order effects, despite the fact that evidence for games having such effects is weak. For instance, regarding sexualized games, there are now more studies that haven’t found evidence of such effects than those that have. Some studies even suggest that sexualized games may be associated with more positive attitudes toward women, perhaps because game content tends to promote moral reflection. One deeply flawed Italian study from 2016 is often resurrected, despite having been thoroughly debunked.
>Games journalism is vast and heterogeneous, of course. I don’t intend to paint with too broad a brush. Yet this turn toward moralistic overreach seems to have increased, particularly since 2013. There may be a few related factors influencing this trend.
>First, the Gamergate controversy undoubtedly hit games journalism hard, though perhaps not in the way intended. Gamergate began as a critique of games journalism, although a segment of the movement ultimately attacked women journalists, designers and advocates with the worst venom of anonymous online communities.
>In preparing for a recent talk on the sexualization of women characters in games, I decided to compile all the empirical academic studies of Gamergate. It turns out there are none. We don’t know how many individuals who identify with Gamergate’s journalistic critiques supported or were involved in harassment of women. For that matter, we don’t know how many individuals involved with Gamergate were women, nor their age, ethnicity or actual identification as gamers. Games journalism could have pushed for more empirical data but instead too often became mired in the vitriolic debates surrounding the issue.
>Around the same time, some games journalists clumsily insinuated that the gamer identity itself might be dead. The olive branch offered by Kotaku’s Luke Plunkett “If you call yourself a ‘gamer’ and are a cool person, keep on being a cool person” seems insufficient given that Plunkett describes gamers in these terms: “[not] everyone who plays games, or who self-identifies as a ‘gamer’ [is] the worst. It’s being used in these cases as short-hand, a catch-all term for the type of reactionary holdouts that feel so threatened by gaming’s widening horizons.” Plunkett recommends one article that equates the gamer identity with “toxicity,” “hysterical fits” and “hatred of women” claiming “The gamer as an identity feels like it is under assault, and so it should … the traditional gamer identity is now culturally irrelevant.” A second article recommended by Plunkett refers to gamers as “obtuse shitslingers, these wailing hyper-consumers, these childish internet-arguers.” Adding the disclaimer but maybe some of you aren’t so bad does little to dispel the impression of disapproval.
6d3746 No.15838328
>>15838325
>>15838315
>>15838308
>Claiming a thing beloved to some individuals is dead has been a time-honored trope since the first obituaries for rock and roll. Such headlines no doubt have clickbait potential but are scarcely sophisticated analyses of gamer culture.
>The second issue is that games journalism often mirrors the polarization and tribalism that characterizes so much of the modern political landscape. Games journalists and their audiences seem ever more divided over what types of content are appropriate for games. Pushing for some changes, such as more female characters in games, is worthwhile, but it can be tempting to move from reasonable requests to negative insinuations about people who enjoy other sorts of games. In this sense, games journalism, like mainstream journalism, may have found it more difficult to remain neutral amid the cultural and moral wars as to who is good and who is evil—screaming matches that seldom have much to do with a nuanced view of data or efforts to find common ground. These changes in games journalism may have been inevitable given the challenges facing journalism and modern society more broadly.
>Curiously, in this sense, games journalism may have fallen into a trap that media effect scholars have struggled with for decades: the temptation to make sweeping claims for effects that are difficult to substantiate with data. Just this year, we saw yet another study on violent games grossly exaggerating the evidence for negative effects even when it actually found that, in self-reported surveys, enjoyment of violent games predicts aggression little better than a coin toss. Scholars have also cherry-picked data on sexualized games: highlighting the debunked 2016 Italian study, for example, and raising empirically problematic concepts like toxic masculinity. As the Bullshit Asymmetry Factor notes, when scholars say extreme things in new media, this tends to get far more attention than the subsequent debunking of those claims. This is one reason the general public often continues to believe sciency claims long after they have been scientifically discredited.
>Maybe it’s unfair to expect games journalists to be critical evaluators of extraordinary claims when scholars appear to be so bad at it. Yet games journalism historically had done this hard work, contributing to a change in mainstream journalism’s consideration of games and arguably even aiding in reevaluations among scholars themselves. For most of the history of games research, particularly on negative effects, the scholarly community has ignored or dismissed the views of gamers. Games journalism helped push for more inclusion. It would be unfortunate to see that lost. Some writers may feel that a critical evaluation of the medium raises the level of intellectual discourse about games. But if such criticism is divorced from the empirical realities of scientific data, it does more to confuse than illuminate.
>There have always been bad examples of games journalism, and there are still many excellent examples of games journalism today. However, a certain spark of critical thinking and skeptical inquiry has been flickering more weakly in recent years. This—whether due to the over-eager adoption of cultivation theory, humanities-based theories of media criticism or moralistic claims, or simply a decay in critical thinking—means that games journalism sometimes seem to be losing its soul.
>Games journalism can find its way back: by balancing the need to critically examine relevant issues such as harassment of women and girl gamers, without making unfalsifiable claims about games’ effects on players. Games journalists should rediscover the ability to critically evaluate the claims of advocacy groups, even those operating in good faith. Articles that mainly seem to highlight the social virtuousness of the author, while critiquing game content or game culture may not be good journalism. Reliance on cultivation theory, or on the humanities more broadly, is unlikely to produce empirically supportable claims about games. In short, games journalists could use a bit more critical thinking about causal claims, even when these claims are convenient to otherwise reasonable advocacy goals. This would allow games journalism to highlight important social issues, without sacrificing accuracy and integrity.
43f0f8 No.15838336
The problem is that it’s addressed to people that already know what they are doing. They know they are ruining the hobby, but they think they are justified. They lie like crazy, are actual racists, and are hypocritical beyond belief, but to them the ends justify the means.
168160 No.15838341
Video games don't need journalist beyond PC Gamer reviews. There's nothing to games consoles these days and arcades are dead. The whole industry is a joke.
0bccb8 No.15838368
>>15838308
Journalists go against the grain of popular opinion because it generates clicks. When games were believed to cause violence, they said otherwise. Games are not believed to cause misogyny or racism, but they're saying otherwise because normalfags will click that.
Next thread
6d3746 No.15838369
>>15838341
PC Gamer was heavily involved in the original gamers are dead push. Don't use their site and don't recommend others do.
>>15838336
Pretty much. Marxists will do anything to get any influence.
f0e3f8 No.15838371
6d3746 No.15838376
>>15838371
Don't respond to them. That's what they want. Report and filter.
a728eb No.15838390
>>15838358
delet dis :DD
>Implying Hillary wouldn't have turned all the white men in america into lamps in revenge for her people.
1068d5 No.15838401
>game journalism
Never would it have acted in the best interests of the player. This applies to the same subgroup that reports news and other forms of entertainment to distract users and influence opinions.
It's a dangerous game to play. Ignoring these people is best, as they try slow influence, suggest, subvert by cooperating with one another through backdoor meeting, planning their next move and accepting bribes. If Gamergate has shown one thing, its the corruption within and ever present in the media.
They're not here to help us, but themselves and their masters.
Sage for not video games.
2c98a4 No.15838432
c0710d No.15838436
6d3746 No.15838451
>>15838401
You can't simply ignore journalism because the average human is too dumb to do the same and they'll become too influential. Look at universities where everyone ignored the leftists creeping in and now they're just marxist re-education camps that charge parents money. Zero tolerance is the only approach.
fed961 No.15838459
>>15838308
journalists don't have souls. It's a prerequisite.
fed961 No.15838467
>>15838340
>>15838358
>>15838426
Fuck off with your bitching about /pol/. OP didn't mention it even once.
dd4494 No.15838505
>>15838346
absolutely this, leftism has its place in gaming and it is here to stay #proudtobequeer #PS4forthewin
6d3746 No.15838506
>>15838459
Journalism can have a soul but only when you carefully control who's allowed to write it.
000000 No.15838507
>>15838467
what do you expect this place is infested with cuckchan users
bfc1ef No.15838524
6d3746 No.15838535
>>15838524
We have been for at least two weeks now. Literally every new thread like this sees a ton of (1) and done spam. Someone got mad at us again.
6662ee No.15838542
>>15838331
>>15838340
>>15838358
15838346
>>15838426
>>15838485
>>15838495
Go back to your /leftypol/ discord. You're not fooling anyone here.
>>15838524
Yeah, commies.
767959 No.15838546
>>15838524
No it's all purely organic and definitely not related to the fall of cuckchan at all.
5b1c13 No.15838548
>>15838543
You weren't here that long, if you were you wouldn't be using newfag phrases like 'poleddit'. Go hang yourself you leftykike scum.
6de4c9 No.15838552
File: 94dff322e921b34⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 1.35 MB, 1260x1770, 42:59, da326c0e2b0ac9524881e823c7….jpg)
Haha holy fuck this thread is being hit hard
6d3746 No.15838556
>>15838546
>the fall of cuckchan at all.
Right I'd completely forgotten that was a thing.
6d3746 No.15838559
>>15838552
Yeh it is. Just report them and wait for mark to wake up. In the meantime I guess try and stay on topic.
335801 No.15838565
>>15838308
>implying it ever had one to begin with
4f0266 No.15838567
don't reply to derail attempts, you huge faggots
6d3746 No.15838574
Ah good. Cobalt is awake.
f25c2a No.15838585
>caring about game journeys
>ever
i have never listened to a faggot journos opinion or review on a game, just play the game to see if you like it or watch some gameplay with no commentary
7d86ad No.15838589
266da8 No.15838598
>>15838504
I think that map was made near the beginning of Gamergate, before they were properly introduced to SJW-nutjobs.
6d3746 No.15838599
>>15838585
Ignoring leftists does not work. They will simply infiltrate any group that has influence over the young and corrupt the next generation. Schools, universities and yes games journalism are all part of this.
4f0266 No.15838617
one of the derailers posting here admitted to being aaron and it seems he's mexican
6a2c05 No.15838630
>>15838504
>Just like that this faggot, forgets to mention that stupid survey was only on Leddit and Twatter once again.
31bee0 No.15838645
>>15838617
>one of the derailers posting here admitted to being aaron and it seems he's mexican
Got an archived source for that? That's be amazing.
4f0266 No.15838671
>>15838645
I can't archive post histories, I will also not screenshot it, but it's true.
>>15838525
31bee0 No.15838692
>>15838671
I'm willing to trust you on it anyway. You could always post with a capcode on to confirm you're a vol but it's not necessary. I always though Aaron was a leaf though.
6d7d5a No.15838693
>the article
extremely Reddit tier article.
>relativaely mainstream news site
no
168160 No.15838741
>>15838369
>PC Gamer was heavily involved in the original gamers are dead push. Don't use their site and don't recommend others do.
I wouldn't use their site or magazine if they are still alive, but they have a point.
6662ee No.15838767
>>15838741
I remember buying magazines once in a while when i was a kid, 15+ years ago. The content was fine back then, atleast to my young mind. How they've fallen.
38539f No.15838771
>>15838741
I wouldn't use a site in general. If you trust something in the backstabber's no-man's-land known as the internet, you will be betrayed, if not tomorrow, then today.
A man who bows to his own desire is a man who you can trust to betray you when convenient to him/
31bee0 No.15838777
>>15838741
Why use any site other than /v/?
38539f No.15838800
>>15838777
because every site has shills, and in order to understand who's fucking who, you talk to everyone's enemies and friends.
If you don't want to get fucked, you should just check three sites at random to see what contradicts and figure it out with your own intellegence. Don't trust anyone to think for you, not even here, because even we can be wrong, we're anon but we still think like a group, that's a flaw in the human psyche that can't be fully supressed.
Do you know how many cross posters there are on this board?
1f7686 No.15838806
>>15838741
>>15838341
By "PC gamer reivews", you mean reviews made by regular consumers? If so, I do; using youtube reviews, gameplay vids, steam reviews, and dev tweets to evaluate my purchase.
31bee0 No.15838835
>>15838800
>Do you know how many cross posters there are on this board?
I doubt more than 10%
1f7686 No.15838841
>>15838777
They're very reliable as they can see games for what they are, but it's best to use multiple sources.
38539f No.15838874
>>15838835
that's what you're wanted to think. If you reverse image search the average image here people have pulled shit from reddit if you check the dates posted.
Likewise people pull shit from here to post on other sites. Around 50-ish of the images i picked out of 100 from this board are from other sites. Don't trust everyone you meet, you can enjoy a spot of conversation, but arm's length is the internet's rule.
000000 No.15838887
>>15838800
>Reddit spacing.
Any info can be summed up as: all companies are shit. Never buy.
b730dc No.15838899
Game (((Journalists))) were never on our side, they have always been whores selling their platformers to the highest bidders for publicity and paid reviews.
99e1bf No.15838975
>>15838887
>Never buy.
The only worthwhile thing that can be said. Kill the modern games industry so that something worthwhile can rise from its ashes. And when that new incarnation decays, remember the lessons from today and kill that as well.
ce6fd3 No.15839094
>>15838308
0/10. The whole thing reads as if the author tries his hardest to find a compromise between two opposing forces. And if there's one thing I've learned, it's that you never make compromises.
6d3746 No.15839216
>>15838899
Greed is one thing. Actively fighting your own readers is another entirely.
ac14e3 No.15839590
>>15838771
I second this. I learned it the hard way, now I take it to my heart. People usually poke fun at morality, but if you don't have it, you have nothing else. I met someone who would always do the unthinkable and grimace through all of it while putting people under the bus just to keep himself intact. Fucking wolf in sheep's cloth. I've finally put and end to that. Fucking pile sack of shit.
7d04f4 No.15839619
>>15838308
For the most part games journalism was never on the side of the consumer, it only pretended to be when it was convenient. If you were subscribed to any news magazine during the 80-90s you see that the shilling and projecting was always there
b4308f No.15839645
257f78 No.15839714
>>15838308
>How games journalism lost its soul
The majority of journalism, gaming or otherwise, was always skewed/dishonest bullshit intended to manipulate the viewer. To say it had a soul to begin is just willful ignorance at this point.
daebc2 No.15839751
>>15839714
Like >>15839645 said. Nobody is saying they weren't shills, what changed is that they used to be shills for different forces within gaming, rather than external interests against gaming.
c6b32c No.15839754
This is a fluff piece for lying blogourists
>compremise and come back to the left support Epic Store
f4f44b No.15839795
>>15838315
why not just post a screencap?
>>15838336
>know what they are doing.
an awful lot actually don't. there's a reason they're called useful idiots. they actually believe all that shit, but since they have no wider concept how things actually work they also don't know the point it becomes retarded, so they go all in and double down when questioned. that's how that shit has worked for hundreds of years.
e04f63 No.15839922
>>15838565
this. here's what game "journalism" was in the 90's
>check out this demo disk and all the cheats to all the new games!
>I'm literally cumming over these realistic graphics!
>You know what you can do in this game!?
>YOU. CAN. DO. ANYTHING!
if anything it has more soul since it's toned down in comparison
6d3746 No.15839936
>>15839795
>why not just post a screencap?
Text is just as easy.
daebc2 No.15839950
>>15838315
If archive.fo won't work, try other stuff to stack on top before giving up:
http://archive.fo/twsUR
>>15839795
>an awful lot actually don't
If you ask most of them whether or not gaming as a medium, especially skill-based genres, need to be eliminated, they'll say yes.
4addaf No.15839958
>>15839751
Might have to do with the games industry increased integration with silicon valley/west coast which is literally an arm of the government.
605850 No.15839980
>>15838336
What's wrong with racism anon?
390f77 No.15839985
>>15839980
When its aimed at the objectively superior ones.
705a43 No.15839989
>>15838552
Anything even semi-political or race related on /v/ now gets slid massively hard. No idea why, it's December
6d7d5a No.15840001
>>15838887
that's not reddit spacing
6d3746 No.15840008
>>15839950
Thanks for the guide.
daebc2 No.15840872
>>15838401
>>15838341
>>15838451
>>15838585
>>15838777
>>15839094
>>15839754
For something as banal as reviews, regurgitated press releases, interviews, and the occasional leak or whistleblower, penniless anonymous randoms on /v/ or Youtube or whatever are indeed largely adequate.
But that isn't enough by itself to police the multibillion dollar industry gaming has become, nor protect it against the harmful actions of multitrillion dollar interests in other economic sectors. Tasks such as sifting through court records, laws, corporate documents, financial numbers, etc.. And even moreso, hiring meatspace private detectives or launching court inquiries. These aren't things we can do by ourselves.
Like any other sphere of public affairs that has been abandoned to "citizen journalism", we still need well organized, well funded, gaming specific investigative journalists.
>>15839958
Essentially, a hostile takeover. That hearkens back to one of the earlier theories in GG, of an attempt via DARPA to "clean up" gaming in preparation to repurpose it for use as a collaborative and training/propaganda tool.
411e09 No.15841014
>>15838328
> Games journalism can find its way back: by balancing the need to critically examine relevant issues such as harassment of women and girl gamers, without making unfalsifiable claims about games’ effects on players
>This would allow games journalism to highlight important social issues
This guy doesn't understand it either. There is no need at all for VIDEO GAME journalists to push their leftist pozz agenda at every given opportunity. They shouldn't tone it down a little, they should drop it entirely, or, ideally, neck themselves
73488b No.15841036
>>15839989
It's the holiday shopping season and you have a lot of devs/publishers that saw their trash games go into the bargain bin. I wouldn't be surprised if they have some bitter shills along with their game journo pals shitting up the place as some kind of misguided retaliation.
We're getting all kinds of weird shit lately, like these daily "RDR2 is good only memesters disagree" threads and tons of bot posting.
daebc2 No.15841154
>>15841036
Don't forget the flood of genuine mouthbreathers flooding in from cuckchan. I'm seeing more and more "older Halo/CoDMW was actually a good game" posts these days.
234d50 No.15841318
>>15841154
Yeah, I can barely see my Best Girl and Furfag threads beneath the refugees.
73488b No.15841331
>>15841154
I noticed that as well, someone had a meltdown the other day because someone told him Gaylo was casualized trash.
a11858 No.15841348
>Games Journalism
Is finished. It's simply no longer required when there are thousands of people that will do the job for free.
29ab45 No.15841357
75cd5f No.15841571
>>15838325
>Gamergate
There's a thread for this.
>>15838368
And this is all that needs to be said.
d38a28 No.15841833
>>15841571
>Triggered
>Is completely ignorant of what GG and /pol/ found out
>Thinks journos are just doing it for clicks
Amazing how retards like you still end up here
eaf164 No.15841920
daebc2 No.15841942
>>15841920
I already made a successful archive using by running it through via.hypothes.is first up here >>15839950
>relying on wayback
Remember that archive.org's Wayback Machine was one of the first sites to turn traitor and delete stuff within hours of GG starting, whereas archive.today and its various alternate domains have never, ever deleted something due to SJW demands.
918840 No.15842848
>>15839980
The left's racism is on a different extreme. If the right's racism can be characterized as meritocratic and based on observation of statistical fact, the left's racism is instead fetishistic and based on a warped judeoelitist worldview of wanting to turn everyone else into an inferior slave race.
c6eee1 No.15843032
>>15838325
>>In the first decades of the 2000s, when the violent video game debate was at its height
Not even one sentence in and he's already fucking up. First decades? Plural. Two, by which - 2020, which isn't even fucking here yet - are the good old days being used as reference. What? He should be saying early in the first decade, or at the turn of the millennium, or something. In any case, the argument over violence in games media was pretty much over at that point. The ESRB was well established, and aside from a few media whores, nobody took the argument seriously outside of a week or two after a mass shooting.
The crusade against violence in video games was very much a 90's thing, and merely only another front in a larger media crusade by both "think of the children" leftists and Falwell's "Moral Majority" against "harmful influences" in music, movies, and television.
Shit, the early years of the 2000's was largely marked by post-9/11 hysteria and hyperconsumerism Buy a Playstation, or the Terrorists have won!. Young violent kids were in high demand, so we could dupe them with promises of student loans, beat some discipline into them to focus that anger - and then send them overseas to shoot up the enemies of democracy Israel.
7058ca No.15844319
a122a1 No.15844349
>>15844319
There was that article about the doritospope image which ended with "This is an important image. Study it." or something. Does anyone have it?
440b71 No.15846580
>games journalism can be saved guys!
Yeah, maybe, but we still don't need them. Better to just move on. What does a journalist offer that a million enthusiast lead websites, youtube channels, and podcasts don't? At the very least, you can trust those people to care about video games. Games journalism is a relic, quite simply. Let it die.
440b71 No.15846591
>>15838368
If they're such contrarians, why do they constantly argue for the status quo? You don't see them unanimously shitting on the latest AAA hit. You don't even see them saying Hitler wasn't such a bad guy, or rape is justified.
I know what a contrarian looks like. I've been an imageboard poster for years. Games journalists aren't contrarians.
b8f519 No.15846610
>>15839980
The lefts type of racism is far far far worse than ours. They think of niggers as Pokemon to be collected and put in every movie or game as a virtue signal.The left have a nigger fetish. We just want niggers to fuck off as we have dogs and cats and we don't need anymore pets.
440b71 No.15846641
>>15846610
It's true. We're just trying to look at the world sensibly. They're the ones with all kinds of weird psychological hangups about race, whether it's hatred of the self or fetishisation of the other. I don't think I hate anyone as much as they hate white people. I don't think I dehumanise anyone as much as they dehumanise their "pets".
921d5a No.15846790
>>15841154
What happen ed with cuckchan?
279c49 No.15846815
705a43 No.15847740
>>15838436
>>15838432
>>15838524
Why has /v/ been getting hit so hard this week? Usually it's an event that happens in the news that causes mass amounts of shills to flood the board
c68f48 No.15847751
>>15846610
>They think of niggers as Pokemon to be collected and put in every movie or game as a virtue signal.
But in reality they only want them to have to good guy roles when situation like Far Cry: New Dawn happens.
>Look black woman on cover of Far Cry, yay for diversity cry the the left
>Regardless of them about to torture a white man
>What do you mean they are the villains? We don't want that! Only good guy roles!
>We can't have minorities look evil! Cry the left who still have gotten the idea through their thick skulls that a single minority in a "negative" role does not represent ALL people of that minority
>>15846641
>They're the ones with all kinds of weird psychological hangups about race, whether it's hatred of the self
Like trying to make whites of the present feel guilty about black slavery in America, when no whites of today owned slaves or any black today have never been slaves. It must be over 100 years since the last slave owner/slave died out right?
You still have dumbfucks that think America created slavery or many that lack the knowledge that African tribes sold off there own as slaves to Europeans.
bb4aaa No.15847771
>>15847740
It's just /leftypol/ and their chink overlords like always.
705a43 No.15847780
>>15847771
leftypol gets a fifth of the traffic of this board. I'm leaning more towards paid shills.
207a96 No.15848623
>>15847740
Cuckchan is dying because of their owner splitting boards between websites and trying to monetize sfw boards. It's literally turning into Reddit
d86d29 No.15848733
Roughly around 2006, a concept was articled greatly and spread with fever by clique journalists regarding the "untapped" disposable income of homosexuals without children and its potential for the video game industry. You will have to dig to find it, but know that the concept and spread was completely manufactured and spun for reasons that bring us to the pathetic state of the industry today. I say this with indifference to the various conditions humans find themselves having. When VICE was formed, its success was manufactured and traffic stats fudged to fraudulent levels for ad revenue.
Radicalism. Only those at the top really know what it is all about…
11e9e3 No.15848845
>>15848623
no fucking way lol
a5a708 No.15854544
>>15847740
The cuckchan/cuckchannel split most likely.
3dacec No.15854585
>>15848845
Yeah, in a random thread the other day, there were like 4 self-confessed cuckchan refugees who mentioned that anybody who's not retarded is leaving the site now, because Hiroshima Nagasaki has been doing everything in his power to try to get a buck, and is openly selling as much information on his userbase as he can possibly try (linking IPs to posts for advertisers is a likely possibility).
Expect an influx of newfags. At least they don't seem as retarded as the last wave.
31bee0 No.15859060
>>15848733
>Roughly around 2006, a concept was articled greatly and spread with fever by clique journalists regarding the "untapped" disposable income of homosexuals without children and its potential for the video game industry. You will have to dig to find it, but know that the concept and spread was completely manufactured and spun for reasons that bring us to the pathetic state of the industry today. I say this with indifference to the various conditions humans find themselves having. When VICE was formed, its success was manufactured and traffic stats fudged to fraudulent levels for ad revenue.
Got any sources for that?
2280a6 No.15859140
>>15854585
Silver lining: we're proven right once again. Anyone left when gamergate happened and got major fucking redpilled. As long as they aren't absolute niggers, the new anons should be fine. Now we have combined autism to shit on Jews and the media and developers again
714d3b No.15859159
>>15839980
The fact that they claim they aren't racist for one thing.
714d3b No.15859215
>>15859135
Q predicted 9/11
>>15838800
>we
>>15859140
They are absolute niggers and I can see them shitting up threads left and right, often making the shit threads themselves. 8ch has been slowly getting shittier by the month and it's accelerating with every event that triggers an exodus of any size from cuckchan. It's getting to be about time to go to a less shitty alternate site and start the process over again. Or it at least feels that way. I'd much rather leave early than wait for shit to reach critical cancer levels with masses of normalfags and moderation ready and waiting to cuck to a media cabal like cuckchan had in 2014.
>>15841357
>>>/test/
11e9e3 No.15859230
>>15859215
>8ch has been slowly getting shittier by the month and it's accelerating with every event that triggers an exodus of any size from cuckchan.
Anons have been saying this since at least the GG exodus in 2014, and the only times I saw a major drop in board quality was 2016 election and the fucking Q bullshit with Grandpa Boomer
714d3b No.15859237
>>15859230
Newfags and come and go or adapt with huge events like the elections and modern Nostradomus, but cuckchan splitting into a SFW and NSFW pair of sites feels like it will cause a lot of permanent immigration.
69cdcd No.15859252
>>15838336
>actual racism
As opposed to what? Our pretend hatred of jews and niggers?
714d3b No.15859269
>>15859252
Anon, I kid you not, tons of people on the internet pretend to hate jews and niggers simply to be edgy, for laughs, or to fit in with the group in places like here. I was like that until experience and verifiable info changed my beliefs.
a92e3a No.15859292
>>15859269
What's difficult to believe about that? Jew and nigger jokes are hilarious.
b13029 No.15859388
2cf17b No.15859434
Reminder that there was a time when gaming journalism was done by people with talent.
It was fun. They had giveaways and previews and cut straight to the point with no bullshit. They even had sections that were fun in nature, like reviews written by characters they wrote (Pocket Gamer had issues where they portrayed reviews through the eyes of a grandma character reviewing games with her grandson). They had comics, exclusive artwork from game creators, interviews with game characters. They were FUN TO READ, almost as fun as the games themselves.
Creativity died a screaming death the moment shitrags like Kotaku and Polygon appeared.
c28d81 No.15859438
>>15859434
Why put effort into being fun to read when you can make controversial comments and ride the shitstorm wave into ad revenue heaven.
5df95f No.15860368
>>15860018
>lets let corruption go unmitigated
unsurprising tor posters are brain damaged
f34ff0 No.15865235
>>15860325
>everything is political
Typical marxist line.
6d3746 No.15867980
>>15860368
Welcome to torpedos.
4e6ad3 No.15867999
>>15838308
>How journalism lost its soul
ftfy anon.
Journalists used to report facts. Then you have a section called "editorial" where they can express their own opinions on a certain topic or issues.
Modern journalists thinks it's their job to dictate what people should think all the time. Facts and objectivity be damned.
Modern journalism is a big joke.
7115ac No.15868035
>>15844349
https://archive.is/qQe9m
It's actually closer to the start of the article
a728eb No.15868042
>>15867999
I hate you so much for reminding me. I can't get news from anywhere at all without some jackass's opinion thrown into the mix.
Even here on /news/ I see it, albeit a lot less, but I can't fucking get a straight fucking bit of news without something secondhand from the fuckers posting it. Is it because people think "this is what a reporter does" from the moronic talking heads on political news stations? NBC and Fox were fucked from their conception as political news organizations– but the stations that came around before like CNN and ABC are now also politically inclined. Is it just not understood that having a constant spin on absolutely everything that comes out of your mouth is going to make you seem dishonest?
d1d314 No.15868055
>>15867999
I hope you guys are aware that this is another reason why most people hate America, since that's ground zero for this shit and everywhere just imports your SanFran culture as if it was the apex of human achievements.
In my country, it's still considered shamefull and pretty shoddy journalism if you can see an opinion or narrative being spun by a journalist. The actual professionals act incredibly neutral when reporting to the point that they seem entirely different people in casual moments.
The few journals that tried to be biased in how they report news never get much support from anyone because it's just propaganda, and while you still have journalists asking some "pointy questions" to their guests, it's not only seen by everyone watching for what it really is, it's also not nearly half as bad as what you can usually see in American television.
>>15868042
I guess the logic is that, if they state their opinion with the facts, they are showing their true colors on their own and therefore they aren't actually trying to trick you, just being honest about what they actually think.
It's still fucking bullshit and not the job of a journalist.