/v/ - Video Games

All of this text just for a mediocre game like Spellcross?

if a game isnt in myabandonware then always check archive.org and if it isnt there just look around torrent sites like pirate bay or shit like that

for running a game on modern hardware check PCGW

google it until your dick falls off and you'll eventually get it running only to realise the game was shit and you were too young to notice

Emulators, Dosbox, VMs (only needed once) or patched Direct3D/OpenGL dlls always worked for me.

Since most abandonware sites also use those old SceneRelease CDs from the 90s that collect dust in my basement I never thought I missed something.

>>15792774

>>15792875

>Everything old is shit-ass unrefined buggy bullshit without any quality of life, fake-ass difficulty based on randomness or trial and error, with terribly limited mechanics

>Everything new is shit-ass riddled with microtransactions and hateful virtue signalling, censorship, padded content and a lack of love or care at any leve

Is XP VM any good? Seems to be the only way to run old games on W10 and under.

http://www.oldpcgaming.net/how-to-run-any-game-on-win-7-8-10/

>play retro game I love

>oh shit it's tied to frame rate

>games playing at triple speed

>game sucks

>uninstall

>cry

Why does everything I love get turned to shit?

>>15792658

Modern hardware isn't the problem. It's modern software that's the problem.

Microsoft promises backwards compatibility with Windows, but fails to deliver every time.

In the Linux desktop world backwards compatibility is a dirty word and wrongthink.

I don't touch macs with a ten foot pole, so it might be better there, but I doubt it.

>>15793225

You can open up Mac files from 1982 on a Mac manufactured yesterday.

>>15793233

Files doesn't really tell me much. I can open shell scripts from the 80's.

>>15793225

>In the Linux desktop world backwards compatibility is a dirty word and wrongthink.

Binary backwards compatibility is only an issue with certain libraries, and mostly due to graphical toolkits. Fortunately, most applications are kept up to date to work with the most recent graphical toolkits.

>>15793249

Look, I'm on tux now, and I know this. But it has gotten to the point where there are certain pieces of software I cannot run because I have to hunt down old source code of libraries and compile them myself.

The thing is that backwards compatibility is seen as a non-issue in the community, because who in their right mind would want to run proprietary software, right?

It is so bad that I've seen the creator of appimage openly mocked because he has put effort into trying to mitigate this issue.

>>15793197

DOSBox lets you limit processing power applied to these games so you can run them like you were on your old 1992 toaster again.

>>15793243

You can run out-of-the-box on-disk software from the 90s on a Mac manufactured yesterday.

Apple cares about their mobile market now, phones, tablets, laptops, etc. They haven't even come up with any new ways to Jew desktop users since the trashcan which failed to be the modular Mac with each part being over $1000 anyways because Mac users hate dealing with hardware.

>>15793257

> I have to hunt down old source code of libraries and compile them myself.

At least you can do that. With Windows you're fucked. DOSBox is merely a VM solution.

>The thing is that backwards compatibility is seen as a non-issue in the community, because who in their right mind would want to run proprietary software, right?

It's sad to see it's this way. Applications you can sort of replace with other applications that do almost the same thing, or the same thing in practical terms, but stuff like videogames should be addressed. Maybe there's simply not enough manpower to maintain these sort of stuff.

>>15793281

>You can run out-of-the-box on-disk software from the 90s on a Mac manufactured yesterday.

Nah.

Last I checked classic apps you can only run with a PPC based OSX MAC, if that wasn't the case I wouldn't have had to wait for a source port to play Ares.

>>15793290

>Maybe there's simply not enough money in it to justify the use of binary Transpower to maintain these sort of stuff.

Fixed that for you, lad.

>>15793304

If there isn't money to be made, enough number of users usually increases the probability of some of them contributing anyway. That's why I didn't factor in money.

>>15793297

I have probably about 12 to 18 pieces of software I have to install every time mom buys a new Mac and while its accumulated since the early 90s, I don't seem to have an issue making it work. You're right in saying that software is discontinued even on Mac but I only ever ran across one that didn't want to play nice: Solitaire.

>>15793312

If there is, if there isn't, it's not like the people on the other side of the line could fucking make it work anyways. They'd cock it up in the pre-pre-planning phase.

>>15793319

I don't understand what you're trying to say. There have been plenty of successful free software projects made with no money at all.

>>15793338

>but you'll need to not be a Winfag to do that.

Shame Wine on Windows got discontinued.

http://www.kegel.com/wine/wow.html

It was kinda funny if you think about it.

>>15793329

There's been even more that have fallen apart due to infighting, signaling, general decentralized incompetence, etc.

For every success there's 3 failures and then another 10 completely unknown failures. It's like striking black gold on the Texan front.

On the other hand if there IS money to be made then a fat nose can pick it up from far away, slap a bunch of shutdowns everywhere, send their under qualified to shitall over it, then pay people to like it all for $5 profit and irreversible damage done.

I'm just saying it's really hard to make nice things done well for good people.

>>15793344

WineD3D isn't though and that's good, although dgVoodoo has caught up to it now

>>15793354

>For every success there's 3 failures

That also goes for every thing you can try to do in life. If 1/4 succeed, that's already a much higher chance of success than starting your own business. I'd say that's a pretty good success ratio.

>I'm just saying it's really hard to make nice things done well for good people.

Oh, you mean regardless of money being involved.

The thing is, you only need one success story for every niche necessity. It's hard to achieve, but once somebody does, that's it.

>>15793361

>WineD3D isn't though

Great.

>>15793316

PPC binaries can't be executed on x86, and i'm unsure about PPC virtualization. i maybe read you can run a PPC VM but i can't remember for sure.

>>15793375

I don't know about you but when I go about my day-to-day I have about a 90% success rate when I do things. The 10% shit rate generally has to do with work and even then it 9% of that succeeds upon multiple revisits. It's hilarious the idea that overcoming the obstacle of getting dressed could have a 75% failure rate.

>>15793434

I'm talking about making a successful business, not dressing up.

But you have a point in that reiterations enhance your chances.

>>15793389

That's a lot of fucking assumptions, man.

And why would they use RADIUS? I work professionally with RADIUS, and there is no reason you'd ever need to use it in any sort of single-user situation unless you really want a central authentication server for your home network, but even that use is tenuous at best.

>>15793408

At least until Mac OSX Lion, there was a virtualization layer called "Rosetta": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software)

If you've got something newer than 10.6, you're SOL. I don't really use OSX beyond what I have to do for work, though.

>>15793361

>dgVoodoo

Was going to mention this. Bunch of computer illiterate underage apes in this thread who don't know about dgVoodoo. It usually fixes 90% of issues for 90% of Win9x - WinXP games running on current Windows + current hardware.

>>15792658

Only game I get problems with is Zero Hour.

I remember playing it on old single-core PC with no problems, but now it's randomly slows down and stuttering, units forgetting their orders. AI sometimes doesn't do anything.

Well at least SCFA works fine.

>>15793225

Mac BC is absolutely terrible in the OS X/macOS era, and was usually only decent even before then:

>about half of OS X software and 2/3rds of drivers targeting an OS just one or two versions older or newer is broken or nonfunctional

>32-bit 80x86 software, including anything in Carbon, is officially deprecated and may become completely nonfunctional soon, 32-bit drivers have already been nonfunctional since 10.8

>PPC software won't work at all past 10.6 as >>15793297 notes

>"Classic" emulation for pre-OS X software was removed in the PPC version of 10.5, never even ported in the original 80x86 version of 10.4

<"Classic" emulation was actually more compatible than OS 9 itself on the same Mac IMHO

>OS 8 & 9 had a strong tendency introduce bugs in OS ≤7 software, and a substantial tendency to introduce bugs even during x.1 or x.x.1 updates

>System 7 broke much System 6 stuff, but had very stable compatibility across its many versions

>System 6 almost completely broke BC for most everything earlier

>Compatibility earlier than that was generally fairly stable, except for a few hard breaks (Multifinder, 24-bit addressing, HDD/HFS, color/depth, Sound Manager, etc.)

I should add that the post-OS X era's problems are greatly exacerbated by hardware incompatibilities of a technically arbitrary nature, in contrast to the huuuge official support range for OS 8.1, and substantial official support of 8.5-9. For instance 10.0 not supporting 604s or G3/G4 upgrades, 10.1-10.4 dropping models on all kinds of dumb justifications (Old World ROM, wrong GPU, CPU clockspeed), 10.5 dropping G3 support, 10.6 dropping PPC support, 10.7 dropping 32-bit CPU support, and 10.8/10.12/10.14 dumping some more machines due to being too lazy to rewrite GPU drivers. While these limits can usually be bypassed, you end up with a Hackintosh level of official non-support, which for the typical normalfag means any Mac older than about 5 years is liable to be dropped from official support.