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>>15786262

>Fakku

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>>15786262

>oneangryfaggot advertising fakku

Well, colour me surprised.

>>15786277

You aren't fooling anyone.

Gaben is suppose to be not a judge of taste but he let's a rogue employee fuck with developers without any punishment? Unless they have shit tech/ software that doesn't even record who is doing what on their platform, they are incompetent at their job or they're on the side of the soystapo and haven't updated their site to reflect that.

>>15786262

What happened to all that bullshit about letting the community moderate content?

>>15786298

Gaben is too busy with blow, cakes and hookers to give a shit anymore.

PC is fucked

Soyny is fucked

Gaytendo is fucked

It's all fucked.

Loli devs just use Steam's free press and tag systems to boost sales.

Steam is just a crutch, they should be hosting their shit on their own websites like every other form of pornography.

Loli was never for sexual anyways you fucking degenerate, so I could care less if Valve bans artists who draw smut of 13 year olds.

>>15786262

>valve cracking down on non-games

I'm okay with this. Stop being a disgusting nigger and keep your vidya and porn separate.

>>15786316

Learn Japanese, go to Japan and buy physical copies of the games yourself?

>>15786315

>Theres never even going to be a conversation about it.

We should force them to have one. somehow.

>>15786321

I mean for selling your own, not buying.

>>15786316

>GoG

I think they could be persuaded. They already allow VNs on their site after a lot of protest from anti-weeb users. It's really only a matter of time. They seem to be quite popular on the platform. Maybe it can be GoG-Dark, and it's catchline can be "you got gog'd". Is loli even legal in Poland, though?

>>15786302

>bullshit

There you go.

>>15786333

>screencapping your own posts

>>15786333

<still reposting his own cap

pathetic

>>15786316

Playism exists I guess, but I don't know enough about their store

>>15786346

The irony

>>15786341

Yeah, that's why I added in about the Jast release, though I think the dev still has to do a few things or something before it gets released there

>>15786352

You should never put your eggs into any one basket no matter how good it seems, that's how we ended up with Steam

>>15786346

<containment threads/boards

You mean like cuckchan that herds all loli discussion to /b/?

Like cuchchan that would even ban SFW loli discussion from /a/?

Do you mean like reddit? Or tumblr? Or twitter? Fucking swell places anon, we really should emulate those sites.

It's funny how this site allows loli and yet it does do anything that image says it does. Almost like your a goon butthurt over drawings.

>>15786359

>it does do

it does not*

>>15786293

Child sex is impure anon. Jews partake in it themselves and are working towards making it acceptable like LBGT insanity.

You're not going to be able to convince people on them not stopping this. Loli is CP outside of degenerate circles such as here. You trying to fight this will have you seen as a paedophile by them. Its a fight you can't win and is not the hill you should die on.

>>15786358

It's why I'm trying to source together alternatives and note them down.

I had only heard of Playism once or twice before >>15786345 brought it up and it didn't pop into my mind. I'm a long time from launching anything but I know what will be in it and it's something Sony would certainly not allow, and Steam seems like a fucking coin toss, so I don't trust them.

>>15786356

JAST censors their shit though, I don't understand.

>>15786262

That girl isn't a loli

>>15786370

Its both, because Steam's censorship can destroy developers outright financially, leading developers to make less games like it as a result and possibly even self-censor during development or avoiding those kinds of themes altogether

If shit was more competitive this wouldn't matter nearly as much because competition would be able to hold Valve accountable in a sort of "Sega does what Nintendon't" style

So is there anything that can be done to make Valve stop acting like shitters? Because if they're really just arbitrarily banning games for sale that they personally don't like, it smells like class action might be in the cards.

>>15786380

To a normalfag, any cartoon Japanese girl is a loli.

It's an attack on culture.

>>15786370

>principles

>on a private market

So why aren't you spending your time protesting the Apple store's restrictive policies? There are no principles, Valve owns the market known as Steam and Valve does whatever their autistic cliques of developers want. You are only fooling yourself.

>>15786370

The biggest issue with this is steam's definition of loli is expanding to normal anime girls

We can try to make our own distribution platform, if you don't mind getting banned from Pay Pal, domain hosts, and Cloudflare.

>>15786392

Not to mention much of the content banned by Valve isn't really loli. If it has tits and ass, it only counts as loli in the eye of the beholder with a "15 year old" or some other jailbait age fantasy. Which is extremely par for the course in conventional 3dpd porn. Even shota is an extremely common fetish in Western porn – it's just POV videos with a milf talking as if you were her son.

I have to agree, it's an attack on culture. But at the same time, you'd be an idiot not to expect this in a market wholly owned by a single company, which has a reputation for being schizophrenic due to lack of hierarchy.

>>15786397

>Its anime. Its Japanese. Its weird and it makes me feel uncomfortable. The details are irrelevant.

"People" that express such sentiments should be slapped.

inb4 edgy

>>15786403

The ideal platform would just be a database akin to VNDB with more promotional material options for developers and primarily composed of direct links to the developer's own store pages offsite

>>15786405

> you'd be an idiot not to expect this in a market wholly owned by a single company

Unfortunately, GoG and Discord are also digital storefronts, which means Steam isn't a monopoly, so therefore no antitrust clauses today

>>15786402

>This isn't true at all.

Yes it is.

>somebody touches YOUR shit fetish suddenly its an attack on freedom.

What a disingenuous goon you are. Ignoring the dozens of censorship threads that have already been discussed here. Loli isn't the only topic discussed, sorry I've been living rent free all this time.

Do vns even make that much money on steam anyways in current times? I always thought they were niche so if that is the case surely the consumer base would adapt to where ever they move.

>>15786413

Because she's a 100+ year old vampire.

>>15786392

You were the one who used "purity". I'm not anti-loli, just pointing out that you can't fight its censoring because very few if any will take your side. Most people are against child sex in any form and this won't change. Of course its not real but graphic depictions of sex, child grooming and in some cases rape isn't going to sit well with people. Nor should it. We're degenerate scum who have been hardened by the internet. No child is being abused but emotional connections will always be there, loli or adult, non-violent or violent.

The issue is that censorship is ramping up across the board and they will start with the extreme end of things like loli.

>>15786262

Killing leftists is what will solve all of this. Nothing else.

>>15786416

The problem is compounded by the fact that there is a very small market for this content in the West, so those stores aren't going to open up for the "lolicon market" any time soon. However, there's always cryptocurrency, so there will always be an option for purchasing said content if you so desire, even if banks crack down on you spending money on "evil 2d porn" which is unlikely; banks want people to spend as much as possible on as frivilous a product as possble.

>>15786425

No retard, they'll promote sick shit like pedophilia and bestiality and ban hentai because it's "for incels" or some shit.

The jew loves 3DPD pornography because it demeans the human form, they hate hentai.

>>15786405

Visual novels that aren't nekopara don't really make AAA sales, so it's not like they would miss much if they moved.

>>15786333

Please, go back to pol.

>>15786416

They have such tiny market shares relative to Steam that they're essentially negligible, and GoG is essentially Steam's biggest single competitor. Yes, its technically not a true monopoly, but it is an effective one, similar to how Google is and they're starting to get looked into with antitrust shit and have been hit for antitrust violations in the past.

>>15786443

>"Go back to /pol/"

>>>/cuckchan/

>>15786414

True but what happens when ISPs start blocking links to their sites?

It's pretty understandable why they won't allow it on the platform, it's not only illegal and considered CP (which is debatable, but what isn't debatable is that you are a pedophile for fapping to it, and thus should be shot) in most countries but some US states claim it's CP as well, including the one Valve is situated in.

>>15786444

Sorry goon but you're ignoring the dozens of other censorship threads that have been made over other matters too. This wasn't minor clickbait that only warrent a thread because of loli. It's yet another thread in a continual pattern of censorship moves. How many years of rent do I owe you for living in your head all this time?

The issue is that character in question isn't a loli and steam already has tons of vns with girls like her.

>>15786368

>Jews partake

Damn, nobody told me that. Where do I sign up?

>>15786411

Slapping sounds pretty reasonable, not edgy at all.

>>15786447

>Republican = right wing

If only you knew how bad things really are.

>>15786472

Sorry my man, gotta be born a jew.

>>15786460

>>15786447

So how long until Congress officially bans lolicon in media as literal child pornography?

>>15786432

Just like they tried to ban non-loli hentai? They don't care about hentai as its plenty of filth for the goyim to consume. The useful idiots and conservatives are the ones who push to ban loli.

>>15786452

ISPs censoring individual sites, especially podunk indie developer ones seem rare to me, but that is a problem that's not easily solved at all besides people using different ISPs. They're a pretty big problem, and competition for that market decreases by the day with these huge cancerous mergers going on. They need to be litigated against more fiercely to prevent and scare them from doing that if they ever do.

>>15786460

They blocked the all-ages version though.

>>15786470

Also this.

>>15786427

oy vey, don't call for violence against evil! you must play by your enemies' rules!

>>15786472

fuck you mark

>>15786457

>No one knows what the fuck is going on anymore and the rules mean nothing, apparently

Again, Valve is a group of cliques. There is no structure to the company. Their model is to only hire self-motivated people and then allow them to join whatever team they feel like. Long-term projects like TF2 and Dota are maintained by rotating people in and out of the team every several months. Your principles boil down to how the Steam admin group feels on that particular day. There are literally no rules.

>>15786477

I was.

>>15786478

>being a goy

Honestly nothing wrong with that. ;_;

>>15786472

Kikes get out.

>>15786262

Given this back and forth they have been doing I think Valve just has a bunch of people butt mad at VNs in it's rank.

Best thing to do would be to buy elsewhere tell Gabe that he is losing money

>>15786483

>They blocked the all-ages version though.

It's probably because there is a version that contains said loli smut.

>Cuckchanners invade

>Suddenly loli thread has a ton of baitposts and people saying loli = pedophilia

Hmmmm

>>15786509

That has been going on for months, and not just loli, yuri and especially tomboy threads too.

>>15786509

the meme that loli drawings lead to molestation/rape of real children needs to die.

>15786500

>Kill yourself.

That's what you say when you lose an internet argument, goon-sempai.

>>15786509

Really makes you think. I've heard that cuckchan is finally starting to go full-on reddit too and cleaning up things.

>>15786509

>Suddenly

Loli threads have been like this for at least two years now. It's just that the quality of the entire board has taken a nosedive in the past few months because the amount of cuckchanners is hitting critical mass.

>>15786476

Republicans are center right, don't be a nigger.

>>15786479

>how long

15 years ago. See: PROTECT Act. They're just lax on enforcement currently, but people are in jail for possessing loli.

>>15786509

>inb4 retard mark makes the cuckchanners into mod and the cycle repeats ad-infinitum

>>15786506

But that version is completely irrelevant to Steam.

>>15786511

He's referring to the reason why people are still defending them and using them and why people did so in the first place

>Steam might be controlling the market and I might not have control over my games and if Steam bans me I'm fucked (this rarely enters their minds), but GabeN treats me well and I get Steam sales!

On the topic of loli vidya there was a recommendation chart and I'd appreciate it being a thing that's posted since apparently I saved the thumbnail.

>>15786500

It's not clickbait, it's news goon. I'm starting to think you don't know what that word means. Sorry man, NEXT month I swear I'll be able to pay rent. Until then please let me continue to haunt you free of charge.

>>15786521

Pretty sure most cases where someone goes to jail, it's because they have real CP as well.

>>15786368

Pay more detailed attention to what the kikes are actually pushing. It is always adult men with little boys. There is a reason for this.

I'm going to put forth a controversial assertion here, and I can't prove it because nobody wants to study this: there is no such thing as a straight male pedophile. They don't exist. Even pedophiles who go after girls prefer or are at least also into boys. Look at any counterexample you care to think of and I'll bet it conflates any attraction to a minor with pedophilia (a teacher who fucked his 16-year-old student is not a pedophile, though the relationship is improper for other reasons).

Loli is attractive to normal straight men, not pedophiles. Loli takes neoteny, a quality which all straight men are attracted to, and turns it up to 11 while not including the cues that tell a normal straight man's dick "she isn't ready, don't fuck her" when he sees a real child. Pedos have that reflex too, but as a subset of homosexuals they actually get off on transgressing boundaries like that and subverting their natural sexuality. Loli might be conceptually attractive to them, but the images themselves aren't what they want.

>>15786520

Hey, kids, remember when they said banning the pedo boards wouldn't turn into a slippery slope. I sure don't.

>>15786532

In EVERY case it was because of that or a few other reasons.

>Did it while in the military

>Printed it off government machines

>Had real CP

>Committed some other crime and they needed to bring charges on him or just wanted to trump it up

>Drew it while in jail

Nobody is being arrested for loli and only loli.

>>15786521

>Protect Act

>Authorizes fines and/or imprisonment for up to 30 years for U.S. citizens or residents who engage in illicit sexual conduct abroad, with or without the intent of engaging in such sexual misconduct.

>With or without intent.

>>15786532

>>15786538

Incorrect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Handley

>>15786536

That's just it. People think lolis are the canary, but /hebe/ was the real canary. This place was doomed the moment Jim kicked them out.

>>15786542

>With or without intent.

The fug does that even mean, slip on a banana and fuck a kid?

>>15786552

>Black dress Tewi

>Being lewd with Tewi

STOP

>>15786333

Ah great anon here decides what fetish is good and what is wrong. Thank you for your wisdom anon I really want to follow your wise opinions.

>I need cartoon children to be fucked in my games this badly

But why tho

>>15786546

It means you're still culpable even if you thought she was 18.

>>15786543

>pled guilty

That doesn't mean it's the law of the land. The SCOTUS would probably rule in favor of free speech.

>>15786565

Why not?

YOU DUMB NIGGERS NEED TO MEME MORE RESPONSIBLY

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN MEMES BECOME REALITY?!

>>15786566

>gang rape is a good fetish

Good riddance. Denial won't save you from the rope.

>>15786566

Feet are disgusting and any fetish related to them are vile.

>>15786568

He was charged and imprisoned exclusively for possession of erotic cartoons. I'm not sure why you're trying to spin this as if it's anything other than what it is.

>>15786546

It means we will charge you because we can. Like vague ToS shit with the "we have the right to revoke service to anyone anytime" bullshit.

>>15786547

So loli is illegal in the US since 2003.

>>15786578

Not to mention completely pointless. You can’t regulate the values of a society by law. They’re unnecessary if the people are good and outright harmful otherwise.

>>15786543

>Had everyone behind him

>Multiple organizations going for him

>Money being raised for him

>Doesn't fight anyways

I love lolicon but I have no sympathy for this person. I get it, he was facing jailtime, but had he fought it he would have won and we could have had a precedent for this shit. Someone has to take it to court eventually and fight or we're going to keep having this bullshit gray area that's being used an excuse to censor.

>>15786568

There was a case some years back where a dude named Frank McCoy wrote sex stories involving adult men or women and minors engaged in consensual, pretty softcore for the most part, sex. There were only stories; no pictures, drawn or otherwise. And when his property was seized, they found no real CP or any other illegal material. (Caveat: he wrote two stories involving nonconsent and rape; every single other story was consensual).

He got tried and sentenced for obscenity.

The idea that "it hasn't happened yet" or "the precedent hasn't been set" is bullshit; it's already begun ages ago, just most people have short attention spans and can't be bothered to remember.

http://archive.is/MXuND

http://archive.is/zeEnT

http://archive.is/D2di9

(third archive not working entirely, here is link in case: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca11/13-14350/13-14350-2015-03-12.html )

>>15786583

>He was charged

Yes, and he didn't feel like being a test case for the supreme court, so he pleaded guilty. It never went to trial. That's completely different from the idea that the PROTECT Act has solid constitutional foundation and that loli is, in fact, illegal. For all we know, the SCOTUS would invalidate it, and I think this would be the case.

>>15786594

>memes are beyond your control

Nonsense, you just need one better meme to get rid of another.

>>15786594

>Memes are beyond your control.

Memes aren't naturally selected. People force memes regardless of how intresting they are.

>>15786596

>So loli is illegal in the US since 2003.

Better inform all of those legal mangka and game artists

>>15786602

That's absolutely shit. Obscenity laws are basically the same as bullshit communist laws designed so the government can get rid of people they don't like. I thought you cunts had a Constitution for this shit. Then again I guess the libs keep eroding your 2nd amendment so I shouldn't surprised.

>>15786601

>>15786610

There is not a single thing wrong with censoring things you don't like. People are always going to do it and having a "don't censor me and I won't censor you" principle is bullshit that no one else will follow. If theres going to be a foot in the boot, and there always will be, better it be on my foot than on my enemies.

>>15786333

>>15786402

the daughter in that hentai manga you posted a page of would get classified as loli by the standards applied to the gookclick game in OP and you'd be labelled a pedophile by the moralism wankers

your chickens and eggs are next, contrarian spastic

>>15786447

Leftists are the ones trying to ban lolis.

Lolis are always ok.

Actual child rapists/leftists are the ones that must be killed.

>>15786521

Even more reason to kill them.

>>15786602

>He got tried and sentenced for obscenity.

Specifically, for transporting obscene material in interstate commerce. Note that the plain reading of the law in question bans transportation of all porn, not any subcategory. It's unenforced except when somebody gets targeted and has a shit lawyer.

>>15786620

>I'm going to sacrifice my principles because all I care about is winning

You're as bad as the leftists.

>>15786566

Anything that doesn't harm actual humans or animals should never be censored.

>don't like it don't click it

>>15786629

Not censoring people was never my principle, winning so that I can push what I want is. Your principles mean nothing if you're dead. Learn.

>>15786620

Wow what a great Idea, my enemies will surely never ever get into power.

You're a fucking idiot.

>>15786262

>(((Jason Ruymen)))

That fuckers name always pops up when ever valve bans VN's, wouldn't surprise me if he has a resertera account.

>>15786602

That's an appeal to the 11th circuit and it can, and should, go to the SCOTUS. That's not yet final, and I think the fact that they are written will be to an advantage. It's really fucking hard to try and claim that words on a screen harm anyone, or that "obscenity" shouldn't be protected free speech.

>>15786637

Give me a reason why I shouldn't do it if I know for a fact that my enemies will. Why should I lose and die for someone elses principles?

>>15786603

>muh constitution tho!

See: 2A and every BATFE ruling and action to date. You act like that's anything more than a piece of paper that is trampled on by kike politicians whenever they feel like it.

>>15786636

>wanting to live in a world without loli

You jews are sick!

>>15786652

why would jews care when they are too busy fucking real children.

>>15786648

>someone else's principles

Nigger, you have none of your own.

You are a rat masquerading about as a human.

I remember asking a utilitarian faggot like you as to what his limits would be on disgusting tactics and he never responded, hilariously enough.

>>15786620

Completely retarded. You don't seem to understand that your side won't have the monopoly on the systems and tools that allow censorship, and even though today it's you banning the people you don't like, in the future it's going to bite you in the ass when the same people you were censoring get a hold in that which allowed you to fuck them over. So it's better to completely reject censorship, because it is in your own interest that NOBODY is allowed to stomp on you as they please.

>>15786643

This thing is so accurate it almost doesn't look like a strawman at all.

>>15786626

I know some father of the year that wouldn't mind sexualizing his daughter. Just saying.

>>15786651

The difference is that pretty much everyone likes free speech. Only faggots think censorship is something positive, and they are the minority.

>>15786648

Exactly, I don't get it. If you can strike first than so can they.

>>15786655

2D≠3D

lolis arent choldren

>>15786656

My principals are whatever creates the world I want to live in. Unless they undermine that in the process, the ends justify the means.

Banning loli is a Pyrrhic victory though

>>15786670

Censorship is too litigious for me.

For example, if I don't want furfag games, its better to liquidate furfags

>>15786674

>the ends justify the means.

spoken like a true pseudo-intellectual.

>>15786670

>The difference is that pretty much everyone likes free speech

You can't be serious.

wtf I love Valve now! I'm going to buy hundreds of dollars in games Christmas sale!

>>15786662

Somebody post that scene from A Man For All Seasons, it explains this point perfectly.

ITT: lolifags once again in denial about their shitty fetish. No, loli isn't literally CP. Furshit isn't literally bestiality. Futa isn't literally gay. But each is just a watered-down, idealistic version of the other, and all are shit.

And no, I don't want your shit fetish banned from Steam or whatever platform. Play lame fetish games all you want, but at least have the decency to admit that's what you're doing.

>>15786656

>republican tier "muh respectability" arguments

Thats why whites are 54% instead of 87%.

>>15786662

>it is in your own interest that NOBODY is allowed to stomp on you as they please.

Sure, but those systems already exist, they aren't going away and my enemies will use them to their full effect.

>>15786674

They already do, the only group that is being weighed down by never censoring is my group.

>>15786680

An invalid non argument, my wish is to win and crush my enemies, not to harm myself. By giving them this ground I am harming myself. They bring a knife, you bring a gun.

The argument against this is literally "If you kill your enemies they win"

>>15786685

Can't buy games with food stamps, nigger.

>"lolis banned"

>fortune summoners still available

>recettear still available

>hat in time still available

>various touhous still available

>gurumin still available

do you mean naked loli games?

>>15786277

>you should be pirating everything.

Moron. Content creators can't survive if they don't get paid.

>supports censorship

Go back to /leftypol/ or reddit.

>>15786684

This may be hard to believe, but the left has shit like the ACLU, EFF, and so on. They've been pretty good on that record. It's only SJWs and other groups that think censorship is good because they think it will only ever affect their enemies.

>>15786691

>The argument against this is literally "If you kill your enemies they win"

Then why aren't you out there killing them, LARP king?

>>15786677

>If I don't want X games, it's best to make martyrs out of their userbase

This internet tough guy persona is so fucking old and stupid… You're not gonna grab a gun and start killing anyone anytime soon, especially not over a fetish they have unless you want a room in a psychiatric hospital. Which would be quite ironic, considering your specific crusade.

You do not have the legal power to prevent something from bring created, you only have the power to support what's created so more of it gets made in the future.

If there's fur shit in the market, it's because furries support it. If you want non-furry shit in the market, support the devs that make shit you actually like, instead of going on autistic crusades that literally do nothing except out your mental age while the devs that make things you like wonder where the fuck their fans are.

>>15786698

>what are metaphors

You're being retarded on purpose because you have no argument.

>>15786674

So you're a utilitarian then.

You have no problems with lying about your opponents, killing the innocent if they get in your way or have problems with your methods, false-flagging your opponents, spreading misinformation, censoring people who speak out against you, and spreading narratives that aim to further your goals regardless of how true they are?

You're an arrogant fool if you think any of those will net you a victory.

>>15786691

The argument is that there are and should be fucking clear, objective limits to the wrongs a person can commit in the pursuit of their goals, you idiot.

In fact I think you're the utilitarian faggot I remember arguing with, considering you use that shitty meme.

Everything is a fucking war? You must kill ''all' your fucking opposition, or enough to where they will never present a fight anymore?

Totally not USSR-tier logic.

>>15786674

Your principals want to create an all powerful AI that will be functionally god, All powerful, all knowing, and ever-present. You must do everything in your power to bring about this all-powerful AI that will bring about utopia or else when this being is eventually made, or else when it comes into being it will use its power to torment you for all eternity.

>>15786695

>ALCU

Wait, what? You're not extolling them, are you? They literally think the burden of proof should be on the accused in sexual assault accusation cases

>>15786706

permanent victory*

>>15786691

>Sure, but those systems already exist, they aren't going away and my enemies will use them to their full effect.

>They aren't going away

Not when faggots like you have no problem with them existing. Just like every normalfag, they think banning what they (you) don't like will make those things disappear and solve everything.

>>15786684

The section of the left that hates free speech is actually a minority. They have a disproportionate amount of power considering how many they actually represent, but they are a minority nonetheless. Free Speech used to be a talking point for the Left primarily, after all.

Centrists are all about Free Speech as well since it's key to "hear both sides" and the Right has the neo-cons that are in favor of "free speech, but…" and everyone actually likes being able to talk shit.

>>15786704

id rather give her a bowl of ice cream instead of dropping it all over the place. i mean thats silly and all but its inconvenient for everyone involved.

>>15786705

>you have no argument.

And you have yet to

1) Identify who your own enemies are

2) What their end goals are without vagueries

3) Provide an actual argument other than "censorship is okay because my enemies do it"

>>15786713

It worked in the Middle Ages so why wouldn't it now? Now is when the time is right! You can clamp down on every little minuscule detail.

>>15786719

I mean let's face it wouldn't you ban things if you have the power? The idea is to make it better for you and have a great life. That's where it's at!

>>15786694

>Moron. Content creators can't survive if they don't get paid.

just give them money directly :^)

>>15786700

>You're not gonna grab a gun and start killing anyone anytime soon,

this needs to change, tbh.

>>15786695

You're joking, right? They support their speech, not free speech.

>>15786716

>The section of the left that hates free speech is actually a minority

Women and non-whites are not a minority.

>>15786648

Actually when people try to force their beliefs on others it leads to war because nobody likes taking it in the ass.

>>15786734

girls love anal

>>15786734

faggots do

why do you think they are trying to make everyone gay?

>>15786734

>nobody likes taking it in the ass

Debatable. Reddit, cuckchan and the like are growing every day.

>>15786737

Girl's aren't real. They're a conspiracy created by the sex industry to steal men's virginity.

I bet you think birds are real too

>>15786734

>Actually when people try to force their beliefs on others it leads to war because nobody likes taking it in the ass.

our white races says otherwise currently.

>>15786695

>>15786716

You're talking about the ACLU that think the rights to free speech and right of assembly shouldn't extend to people that are called "nazis"?

>>15786747

>I bet you think birds are real too

what have i been eating, cats?

>>15786706

I'm not, but saying that isn't going to change your mind. Its a quote from Justin Trudeau and its sounds as stupid in your post as it does from his mouth. Everything isn't a war, but everything is politics, sadly. If you don't see this then you are so far behind that you don't know whats going on. Also logic that works works regardless of who or what uses it.

>>15786713

Of course it won't make things go away, but it'll drive it underground. I'd prefer faggots did their shit in clubs late at night than out on the street where my children play as an example.

>>15786718

1) Irrelevant, this works universally when your enemies are willing to do it to you

2) Also irrelevant, they are willing to use a tactic that works on me so I shall use it on them

3) Take twitter and facebook censorship, these platforms help redpill people on certain things that are hidden from them, after the censorship its harder to get the info out there

>>15786734

>it leads to war

How many times have the American people overthrown their government because of a law passing they didn't like? The hart cellar act that brought in millions of brown people? The patriot act? The NSA spying on people? Nope. Never.

>>15786704

What a glutton, trying to eat so many ice creams at once. Eventually this will escalate and she won't be able to satisfy herself unless she's being stuffed with 20 ice creams a day. She should just find one ice cream that she loves and settle down with it before she destroys her tastebuds forever.

>>15786747

>I bet you think birds are real too

Are you telling me owls are not birds?

>>15786719

>It worked in the Middle Ages so why wouldn't it now?

Oh yeah, all that witch burning really did the charm. Oh wait, wiccans and pagans are still a thing…

Maybe all the Jewish banning and burning? Oh wait, they rule the world…

RIGHT! The Crusades! That showed those Muslims! Oh wait… They are now invading Europe…

What about all those Satanic Books that the church banned and burnt? Oh right, several copies where made and survived to this day…

Come to think of it, I think it's you who has to provide an instance where censorship actually fucking worked.

Unless you want to suggest China, in which case you're free to go there and eat dog for the rest of your short life.

>>15786727

>come on, you'd do it too!

>it's good for you, so why not?

Fuck you, prick. Just because you're an unpricipaled fuck who has no problem with double standards and lacks the foresight to think critically about how the consequences shit like this has in the future, it doesn't everyone else is a brain dead moral bankrupt moron like you.

It doesn't make it better for you, you just believe it does because you're weak of mind and you fear that, if you were in a position to abuse a child, you'd actually do it so you'd rather have all oportunities for temptation taken from you. That's your logic, even if you don't know it, it helps no one, it only softens and weakens your resolve by sheltering everyone from FUCKING CARTOONS.

>>15786749

Muslims, blacks and illegal migrants aren't winning yet. Whites still run the earth.

>>15786622

What's to stop the law from deciding anime girls aren't depictions of a possible minor that may or may not exist? I'm not anti-loli, but we need to establish black and white if loli is against US law. This could be the reason for the loli purge because lawyers say loli is illegal.

>>15786716

>it's really the left and the centrists that care about free speech

Imagine being this deluded. Only white people give a shit about free speech in America, and all the whites that aren't commies vote for Republicans. It's really not a stretch to say that Democrats love censoring their opponents and that the Republicans, when they offer an opinion, oppose the practice. From big tech and almost every single leftist politician to all their grass rotes groups, they all support antifa and want to silence wrongthinkers, and even moderate Republicans are being targeted.

>>15786758

>I'm not, but saying that isn't going to change your mind. Its a quote from Justin Trudeau

He actually never said it, nice to know how knowledgeable you are about subjects you know nothing about. There are plenty more reasons why trudeau is an insufferable fucking faggot but a fake quote is not one of them.

>>15786781

>These tactics are okay because of the targets

>There are no bad tactics, only bad targets

You morons are so fucking predictable.

The moment you start slandering your oposition, no matter how morally and ethically virtuous you are, you lose all credibility. From that point forward, NOTHING you fucking say can be trusted, even if you speak the truth. That's the fucking cost with your utilitarian view on the Truth.

Are you a muslim? Because you're advocating for Taqiyya at this point just to defend your White Sharia.

>>15786770

owls are robots

>>15786711

> They literally think the burden of proof should be on the accused in sexual assault accusation cases

Source on that?

>>15786758

>Of course it won't make things go away, but it'll drive it underground.

Because pushing things underground has always worked to stop them, right? Surely people aren't getting more conservative and nationalist despite all of those tech-giants banning anyone on the right. Censorship truly works, huh?

>>15786732

>You're joking, right? They support their speech, not free speech.

They literally defended the right of Nazis to march in a Jewish neighborhood.

>>15786752

Except, see above. Plenty of conservative Jews hate them because of this. I don't because I like to talk shit and watch crazy shit on the internet.

>>15786798

You're oversimplyfying things way too much. There's plenty of leftists that do no wish to vote Democract if it means supporting Hillary and similar candidates. That's why Bernie (even though that was stupid) was a thing and that's why that bitch Cortez is also a thing, because they aren't actually all the same in that party.

Same thing for the Right. If you believe everyone who votes Republican wants unconditional free speech, you're delusional. Plenty of them will add a few "buts" there regarding degenerate things or leftist rhetoric.

>>15786758

>Of course it won't make things go away, but it'll drive it underground.

Did it work with Gab? Did it work with 8chan? Did it work with the Nazi ideology at all?

>I'd prefer faggots did their shit in clubs late at night than out on the street where my children play as an example.

You do not have kids, you're not even old enough for that.

And your hypoethetical kids do not need yet another "cool, hidden, forbidden club that the adults don't want you to join".

What they need is to see the most flamboyant faggots out in the open so they understand what an attention whore is and strive towards not becoming that.

>>15786758

>my children

Like loli, this doesn't actually exist, so it's not really worth protecting.

>>15786810

Watch or read anyone on the left. This people ask you "don't you believe women?", and tell you that it's the man's job to prove that he hasn't raped someone, and automatically believe they are guilty.

>>15786803

Those are wild generalizations.

>The moment you start slandering your opposition

What are you even talking about retard? Credibility?

There's people that want to make everything shit and people who don't.

Anti-loli people are not white

>>15786758

>everything isn't a a war but everything is politics

You idiot, that means everything is a war according to your logic, and by your own standards that justifies the use of anything and everything possible to defeat your "enemies" whoever they may be.

>that logic that works regardless of who or what uses it

The fuck are you talking about?

The USSR killed millions upon millions of its own people in pursuit of their own goals, because those people were "enemies of the state".

That didn't end up creating their fucking communist paradise, it created a horrible shithole.

Your "enemies" can be as vaguely defined as you want them to be, and once it becomes your own people, you will eat yourselves alive, and once your own empire and power is lost as they all eventually do, you've given your opponents free reign to do whatever the fuck they want to do in pursuit of crushing their opposition. De-escalation should be done, not escalation of reprehensible tactics.

Tell me what you consider wrong or right. Does the word "truth" mean anything to you, for example? Censorship clearly doesn't matter to you, at any rate, so let's see what your limits are.

>>15786829

But that's not a source of the ACLU saying they want to push burden of proof on the accused. If anything, they've always done the opposite.

>>15786782

>Whites still run the earth.

jews aren't "white"

>>15786829

If you're going to generalize everyone on the Left as being exactly the same, anyone is free to generalize anyone on the Right as being a neo-nazi fascist. Or worse still, a neoConservative.

>>15786832

>generalizations

Not a single one generalization on that post. At least read the fucking definition of the big words before you use them.

>What are you even talking about retard?

During a war where America was operating in some asian shithole, a few gooks though it was a genious trick to wave a white flag, pretending they were surrendering, and when the american soldiers came near them, they'd gun them down.

You know what fucking happened to them?

Later in the war, when they were losing badly, they started waving white flags, actually wanting to surrender. And the americans shot those flags and then the guys waving them, leaving no prisoners or survivors.

If you're such a colossal moron that you can't grasp this simple concept, whenever you use a tactic in combat, anyone around you will know from that point forward that you're willing to go that far and they'll act accordingly.

If you're capable of lying with no problem, nobody will ever believe you again.

If you have to lie to win an argument, everyone will assume you don't actually have an argument.

For fuck's sake, even Nazi Germany was smart enough to understand this shit, which is why they did not use gas warfare in their trench warfare.

yeah I don't care pedophile

>>15786425

>child grooming and in some cases rape isn't going to sit well with people.

Unless the people doing it are "asian" or come from countries where it is "normal".

>>15786859

>Traps aren't gay

a man wanting to fuck traps or be fucked by traps is gay

>>15786802

Doesn't matter if no one ever said it, its equivalent to what you're saying. Win or lose, only one outcome results in you getting the policies you want pushed through.

>>15786811

>pushing them underground is stopping them

I didn't say that, I said I don't want to see it.

>>15786825

>Did it work with Gab?

Partially yes, they had their paypal removed. Every white nation but one will get you arrested for being a nazi and all white nations get you fired for it.

>>15786826

Same as a previous response, I say that I do but you won't believe me.

>>15786835

First, everything is politics

>Media - music, films, tv pushing racemixing/homosexuality/mass migration

>economics - export industry abroad and import cheap labour

>education - muh holocaust, don't be a bigot

>healthcare - crazy insurance costs, let gays give blood, pay for my transition

>military - out and proud, die for Israel goy

Need I go on?

Fighting your enemies on the fronts they attack you on are not the same as killing 10s of millions of people

>That didn't end up creating their fucking communist paradise, it created a horrible shithole.

Because communism, not tactics.

>De-escalation should be done

Apply this to war, if one side throws down their guns and the other does not, what happens?

>Tell me what you consider wrong or right.

Serialising the form of children, for one. Theres been enough people that slide down that slope into 3d for it to be wrong.

>>15786873

People will defend this if its a drawing though.

>>15786862

You are retarded. No one would use a tactic that led to them losing later. You're too fucking stupid differentiate when you should do X or Y so you make these gay generalizations to always do the same thing without regard to context.

You're probably one of those fags that want to let the leftists "learn their lesson", by letting them burning your entire civilization into ashes. As if the last 30 times they did it wasn't enough proof that the new generations will never learn until it's already over.

>>15786862

You're talking to a wall. People like him only believe in free speech up until they can spread their ideas and get into power, at which point, if you don't agree with them, you get fucked. Free speech isn't a principle for those type of people. It's a tactic. This is kind of why a free society has to be educated, because it's easy to exploit civil liberties to undermine them. We've seen that with SJWs coming to power, at first talking about fighting the power and free speech and all that, then suddenly turning around and deciding that since they now run the show, they get to tell you what to do.

You fags are aware Loli isnt legal in a lot of places. Valve just doing this to aviod all that bullshit.

>>15786884

This.

>>15786892

Also this to be fair

>>15786825

>If you believe everyone who votes Republican wants unconditional free speech, you're delusional. Plenty of them will add a few "buts" there regarding degenerate things or leftist rhetoric.

This is not supported by reality. Show me a single example of a Republican wanting to ban "degeneracy." Take your time, and you can even look back a long while. I'll grant you that there are are a fair amount of leftist Repbulicans, like Flake and McCain, that like Antifa and what they're doing. They're only interested in censoring the right. Even if true, actual rightwingers wanted censorship, which really isn't the case, you leftists literally control every single institution in the country, so you're under absolutely no risk. You get slash and burn, and we get to take it.

>You're oversimplyfying things way too much. There's plenty of leftists that do no wish to vote Democract if it means supporting Hillary and similar candidates.

Really? Who the fuck do you think you're kidding? Bernie and the commie bitch are just as pro-censorship and pro-antifa as Hillary and all the rest. I'm not simplifying anything. You're all like this. Just check out r/politics. You won't find a single poster that doesn't love political terrorism against right-wingers, and they all adore what big tech is doing.

>>15786880

>Same as a previous response, I say that I do but you won't believe me.

Prove it. Post minivan.

>>15786881

>Given the "identifiable" bit, you'd need to actually prove that the loli is a depiction of an actual minor.

What's stopping the left from pulling a #metoo and say all lolis are caricatures of children that have yet to be identified?

>>15786903

How about I give you my home address and social security while I'm at it?

>>15786880

>Partially yes

There is no partial. Either it did, or it didn't.

And since Gab is still online, on it's way to change from Paypal to alternatives that are already being used by porn sites and similar, it's alive and well.

>Every white nation but one will get you arrested for being a nazi and all white nations get you fired for it.

>white nations

This is how I know you're underage. There's no law in any "white nation" against Nazi iconography or ideology and there's plenty of neoNazi political parties in several European countries for instance. Germany would be the sole exception for obvious reasons.

And even if they did arrest you, you still see it posted here and in many other places. Mein Kampf can still be freely and easily read, everything regarding the Nazi party is still available. Just like Gab. Just like 8chan.

No matter how much they've tried to censor all of this, it simply did not work.

Provide a single instance where censorship worked, please.

>>15786901

Republicans are just as trash as Democrats. Both parties are run by kikes and are anti-white. Stop pretending like there's any difference at all between them.

>just check out r/politics

Oh, I understand now. Get the fuck out.

>>15786881

>Their stance on Kavanaugh (archive doesn't work)

Thanks. It's unfortunate that they are going for that. Kavanaugh had a lot of shit they could get him for, including possibly being behind the torture program in the Bush administration. The Dems didn't bring that up because, surprise: they were guilty of it too. The Title IX bullshit is just that, bullshit. I can almost understand the Kavanaugh thing, if only because they asked for further investigation and he wasn't being tried for a crime. However, it's become quite clear that he didn't really do shit a normal teen wouldn't. I mean, I've fucked a few really drunk girls (while I was also shitfaced), and legally I could be called a rapist. But am I? Fuck no. Don't fuck crazies, guys.

>>15786911

>proving that you own a car to ferry children is like asking to post your ssn

POST MINIVAN

>>15786914

Moron. I don't go there once every half a year, and only do it to check on my enemies. Do I really sound like a redditor to you?

>>15786925

*I only

>>15786880

You nigger, "killing your enemies" is a tactic, and your standards for what is considered an enemy are loose enough to qualify for it, or are you foolish enough to believe only communists have killed many of their own people?

>Fighting your enemies on the fronts they attack you on are not the same as killing 10s of millions of people

No shit, it was an example based on your meme quote.

Fighting your enemies using tactics that would be reprehensible is doing the exact wrong things your enemies are doing.

>Apply this to war, if one side throws down their guns and the other does not, what happens?

You're making it a war with this escalation bullshit. Not everyone is united on these fronts to using these tactics. Soldiers in a war are very different from people in a culture war. There is no central authorities giving people orders or anything universal like a country's power guiding these people. It is not comparable. Not everyone is fucking doxxing everyone, for example, or doing it at the behest of anyone else. There are methods to fighting that don't have to result to the worst of tactics. Its not really comparable to throwing down one's guns in a war. Standard combat isn't considered "reprehensible" in a war, it would be more like using children as shields or suicide bombers, or something like that.

>Serialising the form of children, for one. Theres been enough people that slide down that slope into 3d for it to be wrong.

Where's your proof for this?

>valve goes nuts: they start banning devs that submit pedophile games

>>15786892

I wager the same standard isn't being held up to all things. See The Last of Us getting high praises for its underaged lesbian relationship while they will ban a loli yuri game.

>>15786884

>No one would use a tactic that led to them losing later.

Apparently, you would, you fucking retard.

Why would you advocate for lying about your oposition, if all it does is make you untrustworthy in the eyes of your allies?

Why would you advocate for government enforced censorship if they can use it against you later on?

>You're too fucking stupid differentiate when you should do X or Y

You should never lie about anything or anyone ever and you should never censor anything ever. If you have to do either of these things to win an argument, you weren't right to begin with or you are too dumb to actually argue your point correctly.

If you have to harm the competition in order to win, it's because they are better than you.

>>15786885

I saw this coming, considering how many on the right are free to ditch free speech once it served it's purpose, but I just hope there aren't that many like this on /pol/ yet or ever at all.

These morons end up being the reason I'm a centrist since I can't agree 100% with the right when they pull stunts like "honesty is a war asset, not a virtue"

>>15786901

>Show me a single example of a Republican wanting to ban "degeneracy."

Do I really need to get the webm of Donal Trump talking about violent videogames?

>>15786912

>I took away your way of making money

Yes there is a partial, they control all payment processors

>>There's no law in any "white nation" against Nazi iconography or ideology

>What are hate crime laws

Its all pushed online with nazi stuff, its certainly not done out in the open without repercussions.

>Provide a single instance where censorship worked, please.

Holocaust denial in Europe.

>>15786931

Good luck dying on that principled hill while your enemies wipe you and your people from history. Not for me, no thank you.

>Where's your proof for this?

I'll link an example, the guy in vid related says "it started with lolis"

>>15786949

>Why would you advocate for government enforced censorship if they can use it against you later on?

I don't do any of those things.

I'm just pointing out that your abstinence has zero effect on your opposition.

>Why would you advocate for lying about your oposition, if all it does is make you untrustworthy in the eyes of your allies?

Where did I lie?

Granted, interests are triabalized so no one would care.

All I'm hearing is "tie your hands behind your back."

No.

>>15786949

>Do I really need to get the webm of Donal Trump talking about violent videogames?

Did he propose any censorship policy? Come on. We all know that he only said that as a misdirection. He never had any serious intention to go after games, and he had never talked about that before. And he never talked about it after. He wanted some heat off the gun-control debate since the left was demanding bans.

>>15786956

good luck believing your short-sighted plan will net you anything but temporary success followed by a painful, violent defeat where shit will get worse than ever before. You realize that by your logic, the person with the least principles (and more strength) will always win, and once someone who has even less principles and more strength than you fights you, you lose and everything gets even worse

>>15786912

It's illegal to give an NS-salute in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Poland, France, and Germany. It's illegal to profess explicit National-Socialist values in the Netherlands, Germany, Finland (recently set the precedent with banning the NMR), France, Poland, the UK, and Russia. It is explicitly illegal to display NS-swastikas and other symbols in Finland, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Poland, France, the UK, Russia, Byelorussia, Italy, the Netherlands and Belgium.

In Canada, all the previously-mentioned things are illegal, in addition to possession of materials relating to NS-Germany being illegal even if you don't display them.

Also, why do you use terms like "neo-Nazi"? And why do you put the term 'white nations' in quotations?

Last point: pro-NS parties do not exist in most European countries. There are some kosher-conservative, pro-jew parties, such as National Front/National Rally in France, AfD in Germany, Sweden Democrats in Sweden, True Finns in Finland, etc, but they all oppose National Socialism and are merely (((conservatives))). Most times actual NS parties, or even NS-leaning parties, show up, they get banned.

NMR was banned in Finland, and the Swedish government is currently having talks about banning it in Sweden also. The Socialist Reich Party, the Action Front of National-Socialists, and the Free German Workers Party were all banned in Germany. The Slavic Union was banned in Russia. The BNP in Britain was forced to alter its' bylaws to allow nonwhite members, then infiltrated and destroyed.

The only countries which have a genuine National Socialist party which hasn't been banned yet are: Greece (Golden Dawn), Sweden/Denmark/Norway (NMR), Italy (CasaPound and Forza Nuova), Germany (Der Dritte Weg/Third Path). In Germany, however, parties that are pro-NS that get too big get banned; the only reason Third Path is still unbanned is because it's very small.

The very fact that you put the phrase 'white nations' in quotations is itself suspect. Aside from that, though, you're clearly full of shit when you discuss European laws.

>>15786971

But you understand that by this statement that my enemies will win if I hold your positions, but they may not if I don't. Again, if you die with your principles then they don't exist.

The constitution is only a piece of paper without people to defend it.

Your ideas only exist as long as you do.

Die in the ditch, I'll be here to mark your grave.

>>15786935

this.

fucking faggots.

>>15786981

They will ignore this because they don't like it. I'm done with them.

>>15786956

>they control all payment processors

No, they do not. There's a site that reviews lewd games that got in contact with Torba since they've had the same problem before and they have a payment processor that can help with this since they actually aren't all controlled by the left, no matter how much you want to blackpill this.

>Holocaust denial in Europe.

Why do you keep digging yourself this deep? There's a whole fucking board next doors where about 2000 posters are ready to talk about it, and that's this site alone. Censorship did not result with this either, try again

>>15786971

What they do not understand is that they aren't creating a "race for virtue" where the strongest moral character wins. Instead, they are creating a "race for sociopaths and psychopaths", which ironically is kinda what we already have to an extent.

That's what corporate and political hierarchies are, a very tall pyramid of backstabbing snakes, the ones that backstab the most at the top, ready to sacrifice everyone and everything else for themselves.

>>15786982

Your "enemies" will only win because you have no faith in the average joe to not side with them. Your patronizing ass does not trust your fellow citizens or believes them capable of higher thoughts at all. You fear your contrymen and what they might do if you don't control them, which is why you justify these ideas.

The thing you're forgetting is that, if the average joe isn't as dumb as you think and they see your pathetic manipulation tactics for what they are… What do you think they'll do to you?

I'd rather have a more well educated population to whom I can show my oponents, fully confident that they'll see what snakes they are, then try to decieve my fellow men because I think he's too stupid to recognize the evil at his doorstep.

But you keep doing you. See how much support you get out of being a patronizing little shit.

>>15786994

I will ignore that until the underage "white nations" fuck face learns that paragraphs were invented for a reason.

For someone that thinks he's some kind of tactical genious, he clearly fell for the goon meme of "reddit spacing" and now makes his shit unreadable because he can't distinguish actual meme spacing from properly formatting your shit.

>>15786982

Defending something isn't the same as crushing your opponents or killing your enemies.

Having principles isn't the same thing as not fighting entirely.

Dying with one's principles also doesn't mean they don't exist. You wouldn't be the only person with those principles, and you wouldn't be the only person to remember that.

You take such fatalistic and extreme viewpoints. Not every defeat means you lose everything, not every fight necessitates using the worst tactics possible in order to win. If you're fighting for the truth for example, you shouldn't incorporate lies and misinformation in your strategy, even if it would help your goals out.

>>15787017

>I don't like the way you typed

>therefore I'll ignore everything you said

There's no memery involved, you're just too much of an illiterate nigger to read a few sentences that don't have a space between them. Nice job ignoring the actual points in the post, though.

Before I get into replies, there's also the option of services like PayPal and Cloudflare who can ban Valve from their services if they don't censor loli.

>>15786892

Nothing is stopping Valve from writing a curator list that auto censors based on your region. But then we will have the problem of users changing regions to bypass the filters. Unless Valve requires users to provide a driver's license or other proof of residence that they can search a database tune to see where and when you moved, which opens a whole can of worms, the bans are here to stay. The other option is to region lock their stores and have multiple branches in different counties that comply with these services, which is expensive.

>>15786948

This is exactly the case I'm worried about. You can't get a warrant to arrest an artist that made the manga in Japan without going through Japan's government first. So they can use the burden of proof fallacy to say all lolicon depicts minors from somewhere the US cannot go to identify them. Thus unless you make a character that the US can prove without a shadow of a doubt that it does not have features from one or more actual children, you're manufacturing child porn. Good news is #metoo is collapsing right now and we may see tougher penalties for female false accusers.

>>15786982

>But you understand that by this statement that my enemies will win if I hold your positions, but they may not if I don't.

And yet, in the US we've seen expanded freedom of expression, voting rights, etc. Obviously you can win without being a dishonest cunt. The thing with free speech is that people have to believe in it to defend it, and since you don't believe in it, you aren't liable to defend it. Which raises the question, why should people defend your right to say these things? And the answer would be because we care about our free speech being protected. The minute we censor you, we admit that we're open to censorship, and it's only a matter of time until the whole thing falls apart. You can't win because you're shortsighted and dumb, no matter how unethical you can be. Freedom is the best way. Embrace it or keep rolling that boulder upward for eternity.

>>15786262

Based gabe

>>15787022

What about providing sources for your claims. As far as I know, you're just lying to pad the things you claim. Either way, that's all legal in the US and holocaust denial exists, so it didn't exactly get stamped out.

>>15786262

jesus christ, they really can't handle their shit. it sounds like the entire company doesn't know where it wants to go and they just kind of tiptoe around the ideas without ever sitting down and discussing them among themselves. it's like the rogue SJWs keep trying to pull strings while the other guys tug at the other end. watching valve is hilarious these days, they're like a person with the multiple personality disorder.

>>15786262

Pedos and faggots (an oxymoron) btfo

>>15787046

Are you seriously so lazy and stupid that you think I'm lying about the European laws in regards to NS? Go to any search engine, type in 'nazi laws country ', and you'll find that everything I said is true. You're the dumbass who made the initial claim that none of it was illegal, so stop being a lazy nigger.

And you're right, it didn't get stamped out and does still exist, but it's heavily hindered and is forced to go underground in many places; the revival of National Socialism would be much easier to achieve if Germans didn't get thrown in jail for questioning the 6 gorillion or holding their hand at a certain angle.

>>15786262

Tell them to sell it in GoG and watch another shitstorm happen.

>>15787023

>there's also the option of services like PayPal and Cloudflare who can ban Valve from their services if they don't censor loli.

use or make alternatives, then.

>>15787028

>3D is PD. Women are selfish, superficial, backstabbing gold-diggers who know nothing of loyalty, comradery or love. If they are not backstabbing men, they are backstabbing other women to hinder their chances with men they want to attract.

because they are not "put in their place" anymore, they're spoiled rotten.

>>15787054

>Pedos and faggots (an oxymoron) btfo

are you implying there are no homosexuals who want to fuck children?

>>15787055

>Are you seriously so lazy and stupid that you think I'm lying about the European laws in regards to NS? Go to any search engine,

You made a claim, now provide source.

>You're the dumbass who made the initial claim that none of it was illegal

Show me the post where I said that.

>And you're right, it didn't get stamped out and does still exist, but it's heavily hindered and is forced to go underground in many places; the revival of National Socialism would be much easier to achieve if Germans didn't get thrown in jail for questioning the 6 gorillion or holding their hand at a certain angle.

Pretty sure it's not going to happen because Germans generally detest a guy that got their country bombed to hell for a shitty idea.

>>15787032

>we've seen expanded freedom of expression

No we haven't.

> voting rights

Not a good thing.

> it's only a matter of time until the whole thing falls apart

It's already falling apart.

>Freedom is the best way

Freedom is transient. A free democratic republic with one vote per family is how it starts off, it eventually turns into universal voting rights, and shortly after that people vote democracy away. We are in that final step, and if you aren't making sure your people are in charge when the tyrant/monarch/emperor shows up, your ideology dies with you.

>>15787073

>No we haven't.

Porn used to be illegal. It's now legal. You used to go to prison for burning the flag. Now you don't. You used to be able to be put in prison for simply saying you were against the draft. That is now illegal, and so on and so on.

>Not a good thing.

I like being able to vote, as do many others. This is only a bad thing if you are an authoritarian shithead.

>It's already falling apart.

It's not, but you people keep telling me so I'll side with you, the very people who are attacking free speech.

>A free democratic republic with one vote per family is how it starts off, it eventually turns into universal voting rights, and shortly after that people vote democracy away.

So your solution is to not defend democracy, but give up my rights to your ideology? Are you fucking retarded? Who the fuck would fall for that idiotic line?

>We are in that final step, and if you aren't making sure your people are in charge when the tyrant/monarch/emperor shows up, your ideology dies with you.

No, we're in the middle of defending ourselves from another attack on free speech. We're going to win, and you'll look like a faggot for supporting censorship.

>>15787028

>complains that there should be more discussions

>counter argument

>you're wrong kiddo, what is there to debate?

You're funny guys anons. In any case the point of the joke was to continue the discussion saying "X will always be Y for normalfags" but it seems i hitted a soft spot

In any case, who hurt you so bad anon?

Not only women do that, humans in general (but NOT all) lack trust, love ir comradery. Even if we all should be better people, by your standards all humanity as a whole should disappear and only leave 2D.

The main complain about normalfags is not just about nerds loving underage girls in chinese cartoons; after all, everyone has their fetish. The problem is that not only you guys don't admit is a fetish but also, as you evidence out in your response, you're so indignant with society, or (maybe) with your own bad luck or problems, that you start denying reality and sheltering in 2D to avoid the shit in your life.

Caa you honestly tell me otherwise?

>>15787067

>he thinks fascism is a shitty idea

You're still bluepilled. Lurk more.

>>15786565

>But why tho

tumblr pls

>>15787112

Been here since Oct '14, and never went back to niggertits. Fascism is a shitty idea, and I'm not retarded enough to give up my freedom to daddy government just because I think they'll agree with me. It's like you don't even know about the night of the long knives.

I've been Steam-free for three months. You won't really lose anything by quitting, because you never owned those games to begin with.

>>15787120

>muh daddy government

So you an ancap then, or one of those nazboljew memeboys?

>claims of boogeyman in 3…2…1

>>15787062

fucked up the word by trying to sound smart.

>>15787096

You are banned from the modern-day public square for expressing any opinion right of center. Yes, anti-tradition and degenerate expressions are now easier to get away with.

> This is only a bad thing if you are an authoritarian shithead.

Christ, you're a fucking retard. People without a household and land and family have zero reason to vote for the long-term benefit of their families and home. They'll vote for more free shit paid with other people's money. This has heralded the collapse of democracy and the rise of tyranny again and again and again. There's never been a democracy that survived 100 years after women acquired voting rights. None. They either collapse and get conquered by other people or turn into an empire. There are no counter examples.

> attacking free speech.

I've attacked that now? Feel free to point out where.

>your solution is to not defend democracy

You may as well be angry with me for not throwing all my effort towards defending summer and making sure it stays summer while it's already late autumn. The same story plays out again and again. I'm going to be preparing to survive the winter.

>we're in the middle of defending ourselves from another attack on free speech.

You really don't see the big picture, do you? Free speech is quite nice. I like it. It's still going to go away regardless of the efforts I make. If you're not trying to worm your way into a position to make it easier for it to come back, then it's going to be quite a while before it comes back.

>>15787128

>So you an ancap then

I'm just an American conservative. Government has its uses, but not in telling me what to masturbate to, who I can or can't marry, or whether I should own a collection of either rifles or waifubots. There is room for government, just not in the private lives of people.

>>15786956

>Example of a guy who loli slipped him into pedophilla

>person is Ross

Are you joking ? Next are you going to link High School Shooters to video games ?

>>15787062

>use or make alternatives, then.

Far too much regulation and registration and fees for that to be possible except by people already in power. This phenomenon is called "Regulatory capture."

>pedoweebs btfo

based grandkike gayben

>>15787133

>who I can or can't marry

Marriage exists solely for two people of opposite sex to create a family

if you're a fag who gets railed 500 times by 500 different men at the same time you should go kill yourself, but if GRIDS doesn't do it, i don't care who will inherit your collection of pozzed needles and dragon dildos.

Why are the anti-loli fags even doing in here ? the games doesn't have lolis, so what is there purpose other than baiting more derailment ?

>>15787111

its sad but how the hell can anyone trust another?

>>15787148

It's sad but how the hell can you not trust anyone?

>>15787062

Making alternatives cost money. And good luck trying to sign the banks on to your new payment processor. I know Valve like all companies will take the easy way out and ban loli black and white like they were doing before the new policy. You have to be black and white what is and what it's not accepted on your platform nowadays. We may need a new law that requires platforms and publishers to disclose black and white with no ambiguity what is and what is not allowed to be uploaded to their service. If this means banning lolicon as child pornography in foreign countries then say it. If Valve was open about permanently banning hentai black and white then they wouldn't be in this mess.

>>15787140

>Far too much regulation and registration and fees for that to be possible except by people already in power. This phenomenon is called "Regulatory capture."

That needs to be pointed out more often, so that change can advocated for. the change is not gonna happen

>>15787067

>it's Hitler's fault that WW2 happened

>the allies who instigated the war and bombed Germany, and the kikes who led them, are completely innocent

Found the kike.

Citations:

Germany: https://germanlawarchive.iuscomp.org/?p=752#86 (relevant are 86, 86a, 88, 89, and 90b)

Canada: https://web.archive.org/web/20090813212959/http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/resources/legislation/canadian_law/federal/criminal_code/criminal_code_hate.cfm

(can lookup criminal codes 318 and 319 for further proof)

Finland:

First, the recent banning of NMR in Finland makes publically professing National Socialist beliefs de-facto illegal, as the organization was banned in spite of not having been found guilty of any criminal offense and just being charged with "violation of good practice". Additionally, http://www.finlex.fi/en/laki/kaannokset/1889/en18890039.pdf can look at Section 11 specifically.

France:

the main French law site isn't connecting for me right now, but lookup Penal Code Article R645-1. The Gayssot Act of 1990 bans holocaust denial.

Russia:

http://koapkodeksrf.ru/rzd-2/gl-20/st-20-3-koap-rf

Just use an online translation program to read it.

Sweden: Lookup the case of Simon Lindberg being fined money for giving an NS-salute at a rally. The NMR has repeatedly gotten in trouble and been given fines for giving NS-salutes at protests and rallies.

Austria: Verbotsgesetz 1947 prohibits holocaust denial. Other laws prohibit forming pro-NS movements.

Belgium: Negationism Law of 1995 prohibits holocaust denial.

Czechia: Law Against Support and Dissemination of Movements Oppressing Human Rights and Freedoms of 2001 prohibits holocaust denial. This law also extends to those who promote movements which perpetrated (allegedly) the deeds, and thus de facto bans pro-NS movements.

Greece: LAW 927/1979 (2014 amendment) bans holocaust denial. Golden Dawn members have been fined for publically stating their rejection of the holocaust narrative; some have been jailed.

Hungary: Law passed recently bans holocaust denial. www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/hungary-penal-code-amendment-on-holocaust-denial-adopted/

Italy: holocaust denial is prohibited. http://archive.fo/Nn0zU

Lithuania: holocaust denial and support of NS organizations is banned.

http://archive.is/u5VAR

Can use online translation program to translate it.

Netherlands: Articles 137c and 137d prohibit holocaust denial and expressions of pro-NS belief.

Poland: holocaust denial and expression of pro-NS belief is banned.

Portugal: 'racial hatred' is banned, and holocaust denial is de-facto banned under this law. Can use online translation program.

https://dre.pt/application/dir/pdf1sdip/2007/09/17000/0618106258.pdf

Romania: Holocaust denial is banned, as well as expressing pro-NS belief.

Emergency Ordinance No. 31 of March 13, 2002

Russia: Holocaust denial and expressing pro-NS belief is banned. Many laws regarding this, just lookup 'Laws against Rehabilitation of Nazism'.

Slovakia: Holocaust denial and expressing pro-NS belief banned. Law 485/2001, and Penal Law 300/2005 subsection §422d.

Additionally, an EU-wide law was passed that helps to criminalize holocaust denial and pro-NS organizations: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31996F0443:EN:HTML

Maybe next time you accuse someone of lying, you should make sure they actually are. Because in this case, you're completely full of shit for stating that the previously-mentioned things were perfectly legal throughout Europe. Go kill yourself you kike shill.

https://web.archive.org/web/20071020120014/http://www.ipn.gov.pl/wai/en/32/46/

>>15787145

I'm not gay; I'm Jewish. But no, generally I think you should be able to provide rights to anyone to have power over your estate, to raise your children in case of your death, be covered by your health insurance, and so on. I don't see why it makes a difference whether it's a woman or not. For all I know, two good buddies could be deciding that they'll stay like that and pair up. Now, I actually know two dudes who got married for BAH in the Army, but that's a story for another time. They definitely weren't gay. I really think the government shouldn't even call it marriage.

>>15786277

>shit opinion

>posts mediocre8

like pottery

>>15787195

>Jew

>wants to subvert marriage

Really makes you think

>>15787181

>We've been consistently standing over retards like you for the entirety of human history. We will continue to do so.

>for the entirety of human history

>we

OY FUCKING VEY!

Just had to let your nose get too big to hide, right on time

>german weeb game about loli

This must be supported.

Nigger must get in contact with MangaGamer.

>>15787181

>Because those are recent things, retard.

Oh, I'm arguing with a historical illiterate. Alright, that clarifies it.

>You're on the internet, arguing about this right now

Right, and twitter would let me do this? Facebook would let me do this? Twitch? Snapchat? Instagram? This small corner of the internet is the only place ideas can be expressed openly.

>If people voted for the seasons, it would basically always be spring and never winter.

Christ, you're an actual retard. Yeah, people'll vote for endless easy resources. What is it that actually happens when they do?

>>15787195

>I'm Jewish.

Oh, well this was a whole waste of effort. You should kill yourself, it'll be a lot less painful then how I'd end you.

So… should we just go full "steam" ahead with Operation Muhammed Games? All games must now have a Muhammed pedo goat fucker character. One that is complete ass and fails constantly. That all NPCs make fun of because he's a smelly dumb towel head.

Can they ban my dev account for submitting games that mudshits claim offends them because it has vulgar/obscene depictions of their precious child rapist?

>>15787240

Though I admit not sharing any land borders makes it pretty easy. Only with the advent of China in the Pacific have we seen anything like what the rest of the world experiences politically.

>>15787245

> One that fails constantly.

that sounds like a shitty game.

>http://yumecreations.de/

>de

>GERMAN

>ANIME STYLE

>VISUAL NOVELS

The aryans strike again!

>>15787231

It's funny how the kikes always end up revealing themselves. Had this one pegged as soon as he put 'white nations' in quotation marks.

>>15787248

Yeah, that's kind of what I figured. Low-competition island environments are capable of actually surviving the lower overall economic output of women being in charge. Any real political/economic/warfare-based pressure would have collapsed it, just like island matriarchies.

So the upshot of all this is 'don't use Steam', done.

>>15787447

At least the thread as roughly on topic (freedom, censorship, liberty) rather than the prevous threads full of bait, atheist v. christians, and whatever else got bites.

>>15787447

I think the derailers got banned, that might explain the slowdown of posting in this thread.

Truly poetic that the worst derailers outed themselves as jews, they never do learn.

>>15787181

>You're on the internet, arguing about this right now. Pic related happened. Just because people hate your ideas, doesn't mean that you can't openly express them.

Ironic that you use the Charlottesville events as proof that free speech is live and well. I'm sure you know that the gathering was shut down by police and antifa commie thugs after twitter yelled that the opions that were being expoused were intolerable to them. Like every non-leftist political gathering for years, antifa was there for violence. Even moderate republicans and journalists are being targeted by them. And they get no critique from the media. In fact, Antifa are heroes at places like CNN. Kill those bigots, they say. When it happens that the police bothers to catch one of them, like the bikelock professor, they get sweet-heart deals despite obvious guilt to crimes that would send rightwingers to prison for decades. And your argument regarding this place and the internet is also very dishonest: You know this place is an exception to a culture of censorship on the internet. Are you just trying to prove every sterotype about jews? If so, you're doing a good job.

>>15787455

I try to stay on topic. I'm trying to figure out why Steam is banning anime VNs other than muh SJW. There has to be a law or external factor the SJWs are using to justify this.

>15787470

Oh look. They figured out how VPNs worked.

>>15787465

Steam seems to draw the line on non fantasy loli.

Anything with a modern eetting gets hacked.

steam and sony are doing god's work

>>15786519

Halfchan has split SFW boards are hosted on 4channel now and don't show nsfw boards so japmoot can push more ads. Old 4chan keeps the nsfw stuff. I'd expect an influx of new visitors here.

>>15787481

Would be one thing if they just lurked, but they feel like they have a right to post.

>>15787476

>anyone who doesn't like what I like must be someone sent here to undermine the board

lolifags are shit, I'd tell you to go back to /hebe/ but we already got rid of that place.

>>15787487

>reddit spacing

Thanks for proving it.

>>15787487

Wake me up when you're at least (30), okay fellow Anon?

>15787494

It was, thank you. Now fuck off back to reddit normalnigger.

>>15786464

Anyone have the other BBC Three twitter screenshot where they condone pedophilia among muslims or some shit? There was a pic that had both side by side.

You know. I try. I try not to use filters because I love seeing losers self-destruct in glorious autism but I know you're a 12 year old little shit who's social worker told you to join AntiFa and shitpost Nazi forums. Your bait is just that bad. You suck so much that can't be bothered to look at your ID. Anymore. There comes a point when baitfags stop being autistic and just become programmed. Like there's a name for your kind. I just can't think of it right now.

>>15787515

>Make every game tagged with loli inaccessible for purchase or viewing in counties where it's illegal

Boy that was fucking hard.

>>15787532

For instance?

>>15787525

I wish it was that easy. What's to stop the account holder from making another Steam account in a different region and using a VPN to connect? This may work if you only have one account to use on the internet for everything. Then we will be like Worst Korea where your accounts are tied to your social security number.

>>15787553

what's to stop them from going on tor and downloading actual child porn

>>15786368

>making it acceptable

the way it should be. you're just bitter that little girls find your disgusting neckbearded blob of a body disgusting and react negatively to you on sight.

>>15787255

>that sounds like a shitty game.

well yeah it's about Islam and the MC is Mohammed. the main point was it's illegal it Pisslam to draw Muhammed. thus if he's the MC of a bunch of games that mock him and Pisslam it should get banned.

because it's your right in CURRENT_YEAR + 3 to not be offended in every country regardless of laws and shit

>>15787540

What salt? The bait just sucks now. All they're doing is shitposting the thread to hit bump limit since we had that /pol/ vs /leftypol/ derail. Again I hate using filters. However the bait is not with me getting distracted as this thread sinks.

>>15787561

If and when their country bans TOR. Also I'm unsure if TOR is an FBI honey pot lately or not. Please let me know if TOR is safe with a VPN at least. I'm curious.

>>15787562

Because this is an argument I'm sure has been brought up to Valve. Which is why loli is being banned instead of filtered by region. Valve doesn't want to risk being sued by retard pretenders like Tentacle Porn Kurt. Does this excuse their actions? No. It is a lazy solution that Valve can get away with because no important people on the internet or mainstream media will defend loli because lolicon = pedophiles.

>>15787595

*will not defend loli

>>15787540

Are there any pro-censorship posters here who will address how that could be considered loli and needs to be censored?

Because the next step is Australia style "no small breasts allowed, even if she is thirty" .

>>15787398

Smartphones are the worst thing to happen to the internet. Once they became commonplace every corner of the web filled up with retards that only need enough skill to touch colorful icons to broadcast their thoughts. Social media then gave those people the power to directly speak to governments and major corporations, which is why outrage culture dominates the entertainment industries.

>>15787505

well we have tomboy segues but i dont think we have vidya tomboy threads even once a year

>>15787595

How in the hell does a country 'ban' Tor?

>>15787675

Ask China.